This is always the mainstream media preoccupation after a jihad attack: portraying Muslims as victims of a generally nonexistent “backlash.” There is always a steady stream of articles like this one after every fresh jihad murder, and never, ever any articles about Muslim communities redoubling their efforts to show themselves to be loyal citizens and rooting out the jihadis.
“French Muslims fear reprisals in wake of Paris terrorist attacks,” by Christina Boyle, Los Angeles Times, November 15, 2015 (thanks to Darcy):
In this heavily Muslim suburb of Paris, there was a nagging fear in the back of many minds on Sunday: Would the latest spasm of violence in the name of Islam bring retaliation against their community?
“Of course we are scared,” said one worshiper at the Evry-Courcouronnes mosque, an ethnically diverse community full of low-rise public housing about 20 miles south of the center of Paris.
“We didn’t choose for this to happen. The people who carried out the murders were not Muslim, they were not fanatics, they were assassins. But not everyone sees that.”
Maybe that’s because it’s so hard to see when the assassins explain themselves in terms that are so very Muslim.
In the wake of Friday’s terrorism strikes in Paris, some residents of this suburb – built in the 1970s to offer a cheaper, more spacious alternative to city living, but now mostly home to poorer immigrants – faced the possibility that some might view them as the enemy.
Already, French officials have warned of the possibility of cracking down on mosques deemed as harboring Muslim radicals.
The French interior minister, Bernard Cazeneuve, said Sunday that the state of emergency declared Friday gives the government the means to act more quickly against those “who preach hatred in France,” including through expulsions and the “dissolution” of radical mosques.
“I didn’t wait for the state of emergency to track down radical imams who preach hatred and to address places of worship where they preach that hatred,” Cazeneuve said in an interview with France 2 TV. He said the expansion of government powers will allow the authorities to be “much quicker in the expression of the republic’s resolve … in the face of terrorism.”
No public mention has been made of targeting mosques in Courcouronnes, but that hasn’t stopped residents here from worrying about the general atmosphere across Europe.
It didn’t help that far-right National Front leader Marine Le Pen quickly called on fellow citizens to “annihilate Islamist fundamentalism” and to “take back control” of their borders….
Muslims in France are upset about this? Yet we’re constantly told that the Muslims in the West are moderates who abhor “Islamist fundamentalism.” So why would they not want it annihilated?

Silvia says
And there you go – AGAIN!
After yet another murderous massacre of non-muslims by muslims, the “real” victim is THE MUSLIMS. Of course.
Will Europe and the world ever wake up?
Don McKellar says
We shall see if they’ve woken up come next elections. They’re going to have them in France. In Germany. And in the United States.
Pay no attention to bought and paid for corrupted mainstream media outlets. Pay attention to the voters.
jihad3tracker says
If there is anything “good” to come from the dead / wounded / clinging-to-life — in Paris, it is that the Leftist Dem candidates and also amateur Repub candidates HAVE NO CHANCE OF BECOMING FINAL CONTENDERS.
Jeremiah says
Considering the protection offered by the government, somebody had better get organized.
sarita says
I hope you’re right
Jeff says
The emperor has no clothes. Nobody, with a lick of sense, is buying their bs anymore.
madmemere says
If French muslims “did nothing” to stop the attacks, then they are “complicit” and “should fear” reprisals; send them all back to their originating sand dunes!
sidney penny says
“Muslims in France are upset about this? Yet we’re constantly told that the Muslims in the West are moderates who abhor “Islamist fundamentalism.” So why would they not want it annihilated?”
“So why would they not want it annihilated?”
I ask myself the same question.
Why do they not support any and all counter terrorism measure?
Why do they not say we are moderates and have nothing to fear?
Why do they not say we support our government’s effort to root out the jihadis, wherever they are?
Why do they not say we are loyal citizens and want the government to crack down on mosques harboring Muslim radicals?.
Why do they not say we are loyal citizens and want the government to help us expel from mosques Imams who preach hated against non Muslim and our French society.?.
Westman says
Why do the young men migrate to Europe instead of fighting to regain control of their country?
Daesh(isis, isil,etc) by a number of estimates has at least 50,000 fighters. It’s estimated there are more than 4 million “refugees” just from Syria. There are 80 Syrian refugees for every Daesh fighter and about 50 of those are young nen.
Syria is a make-believe country created by post WWI mandate. It’s Muslim citizens belong to a religion that forbids allegiance to non-Caliphate government. So why would devout Muslims defend any country? Why should they support counter-jihad efforts? Their smartest move, if possible, is to leave for a peaceful non-Muslim country.
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Westman says
” Why do they not say we are loyal citizens and want the government to help us expel from mosques Imams who preach hated against non Muslim and our French society.?.”
Because Islam forbids allegiance to a non-Caliphate. The most devout are citizens only in the physical sense, awaiting the arrival of the “true” Caliphate.
Jay Boo says
The Muslims fears may not totally be without merit however.
I am not referring to right wing activists but family members of those who lost their teenage children.
What would you do?
While politicians blame ISIS, the sordid truth that this is just everyday Islam can no longer be stopped.
Why should French citizens be the only ones to live in fear?
quotha raven says
to Jay Boo, who sez “Why should French citizens be the only ones to live in fear?”
Here’s your answer: Because they don’t have a protective, vigilent president like Obama who, just a few short hours before the Paris massacre, reassures them and George Stephanopolis on ABC television morning show, “We have contained ISIL…”
So we can feel all warm and cozy, wrapped in the government’s vigilance and effective protection.
Sarc off. Yikes. Timing is everything, non?
Cheers!
quotha raven
Jay Boo says
It gets worse quotha
Within hours after the attack.
Five detainees at the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, were transferred to the government of the United Arab Emirates, the U.S. Defense Department said on Sunday.
Coincidence? I do not know. Maybe it was already scheduled, but with Obama it could possibly be a ‘goodwill’ gesture to show he is not holding Islam at fault for Paris.
quotha raven says
JayBoo – Yes, I read that today on an Alan West blog. It made me so angry all I could do is shake my head sputter. Cheers! qr
quotha raven says
I meant “shake my head AND sputter”. qr
PRCS says
“Why should French citizens be the only ones to live in fear?”
Why, indeed.
Sarita says
Every time they massacre non-Muslims, they come out whining about how scared they are.
Jay Boo says
The Friday flash
Every Friday is Islam pig-bath day.
After leaving the mosque they will tell themselves that they are so extra special.
All empathy will be gone — just that fast.
The Friday flash
Judi says
After Friday prayers, they will congregate on their prayer mats, block the streets and pray to allah. Just another Friday in Paris.
boakai ngombu says
the important men will also divy up work assignments designed to further the cause
those in favor will get “work” and importance and favor
alliances are also made after Friday prayers
Jay Boo says
What would you do if they murdered your children jihad-watchers?
Ernie says
No merci for these murderers , extract as much information as we can from them and after that : Mme. la Guillotine . Heads of , hat of . Goodbuye !
Ernie says
Heads OFF , hat OFF !
Jeremiah says
Close the Mosques. Don’t wait for the Government to change.
Wellington says
Again, it’s about them. Really, I’m so tired of this built-in narcissism that is endemic to Islam. But it’s fitting I guess since the character of the reputed founder of Islam has narcissism written all over it.
My God, what a monstrosity Islam is. Compared to it, Marxism and Nazism are just jayvee players (just had to borrow this one from the Rube-in-Chief re his characterization of ISIS a year ago or so).
Sandy Kramer says
Warfare – Soviet style:
The story (possibly apocryphal) is told regarding the Soviet adventure in Afghanistan. The Russians were having a particularly difficult time weeding out opposition leadership in a region of incursion. A commando raid was undertaken, and a prominent Islamic military leader was kidnapped. He was taken to a Soviet command post, where a surgical procedure was undertaken. He was later found in the outskirts of the city, his wounds bandaged. And his scrotum stuffed into his mouth. Henceforth, there was little opposition in the area …
I recommend Derek Hunter’s column: “We Need to Care Less”.
http://townhall.com/columnists/derekhunter/2015/11/15/we-need-to-care-less-n2080829
bernie says
I recall reading that after the horrific Beslan school massacre in Russia in 2004, the dead jihadists were slathered in pig fat and buried in pork skins. And then, there is the story of General Pershing in the Philippines, who is reputed to have killed many jihadists with bulletrs which had been dipped in pig blood.
I have also read a story (possibly apocryphal, like the one you have mentioned) about some jihadists who were fed to hungry pigs (whether the jihadists were alive or dead at the time I don’t know, if the story is true; Mafia gangsters in Italy have been known to do that to their enemies, which is absolutely vicious.)
Jay Boo says
France is bombing ISIS in Syria but, the main enemy is not in Syria.
Islam is the problem. — ISIS is just Islam without the veil.
islam :- the religion of killers says
Victims Victims Victims, oh poor us, the haters of Islam will be mean to us,,,, all we did was lend our guns & vests to those rude men,, they didn’t give them back, or the cars and their holiday money,, poor us we will never get our money back….
All we did was take them to our mosque and let them stay with us ..
Poor poor us .. we will have to have our welfare increased
Sam says
Well, I am sick of this protecting business of these poor Muslims who are killing everybody all over the world for centuries. Sorry for what happened in Paris but I don’t have any confidence in the French culture to fight back. Did French police start cleaning out Muslim no-go zones? Of course not.
Ernie says
The Muslim “no go area’s” have become complete cities . They are that big it’s virtually impossible to clean them out effectively. Too many people , not enough police officers and soldiers to do the job . Besides , the evil ones will be protected by most of the citizens living in these “enclaves”. Terrorists hide here , they are well protected by their own .
Jay Boo says
Muslims murdered French children.
Why should French citizens be the only ones to live in fear?
Mo says
@ Jay Boo
“Muslims murdered French children.
Why should French citizens be the only ones to live in fear?”
I don’t know what you’re stirring up with comment after comment along this line, but you know it’s not the place for it.
Jay Boo says
Mo
It is not all about ISIS
Why are you concerned that Muslims might see this as their problem too?
Your constant reference to “dirty kafirs” and seeing the Muslim point of view might impress Muslims but it was Muslims who murdered children in the name of Islam (again) with the covert approval of many so-called moderate Muslims (again).
Jay Boo says
correction “dirty kafirs” might be a mortimer thing not Mo
Ernie says
Well Mo , action will provoke a reaction . That’s normal . We are in a state of WAR . But maybe you don’t see that yet , even after Daesh declared WAR on us . So I say : Let THEM live in fear . Let’s destroy them , no MERCI !
Ernie says
It makes me think of the times of Elijah , clean our world of satan( baál ) and all of his followers .
bobm says
phoney F’s.. they could be screaming for heads in a moment..
Dave J says
Well the score so far is a loss of 130 innocent non-Muslims and zero reprisals so they don’t have much to moan about. As usual the narcissistic whining is much louder than any apologies or non-existent vows to rout these “extremists” from their midst.
A radical Muslim wants to behead you, a moderate Muslim wants a radical Muslim to behead you.
Mo says
“Muslims in France fear reprisals after Paris jihad massacre”
BOO FREAKIN’ HOO!
It’s been what, 48 hours? If there were going to be reprisals, they would’ve happened already. I’ve heard of nothing so far.
And if they are so scared in France, they are free to move to a Muslim country. It’s a win-win!
cs says
They kill, murder, rape, and still pose as victims. What the hell. Screw them.
Vyx says
You do have to give them credit- it’s really hard to be the aggressor and the victim at the same time. But Muslims manage to pull it off beautifully, over and over again, thanks to liberals. politicians, and the media.
Oh wait, those are one united group.
Peggy says
So they want to keep killing us but they don’t want us to turn on them. Nice if you can get it and so far they have been getting it.
I think once they start having their blood spilled they will quite down. They only respect violence so violence is what they should get.
If we keep allowing our media and government to keep telling us that we are the problem if we retaliate then we are finished.
Ernie says
No Peggy , even with our traiterous governments etc , we are not powerless . We must NEVER GIVE UP , and organize . PEGIDA is a movement from THE PEOPLE , and it’s growing . There is discontent all over Europe , and it’s growing . Be vigilant . Protect yourself and your loved ones . And vote for anti-immigration parties . Boycot Islamic businesses where you can .
Jeremiah says
Get guns and bullets. Join your Neighborhood Watch. Show leadership and keep your ear on the rail.
Ernie says
Thanks Jeremiah , but bullets and guns are not freely available for citizens here in Europe . Criminals as many , many muslims here in Europe have fire-arms , automatics too . Still we are a majority , and our bloody governments must act strongly and NOW . They probably won’t , so we must solve these problems ourselves . We must organize and Neighbour Watches are a splended idea . Our governments will try everything to stop this . Since our governments don’t represent the population anymore , we must fight . Our government in The Netherlands tells us civilians that we must not get divided muslims/non muslims . What a bullshit , we ARE devided , and we are at WAR . Our government tells us we are at war with Daesh , NOT WITH ISLAM . That’s a very dangerous LIE !
Jeremiah says
You have a good leader in Geert Wilders. Holland led the resistance against Spain at a cost of half a million people, fighting with bare hands almost. I’m sure the Dutch people will rise to the occasion and take their government back. If there is strong support then the army will be on your side. It may take some persuasion but it will also take some sacrifice. The mosques must be closed and you can do that with your bare hands.
Smart Guy says
Reprisals against Islam? That would not be smart !! The problem of Islam is not with the Moslems
The problem is with the billionaires and the French politicians and the fools that elected them to power!!
The French know that they elected the wrong people. They were lied to and they were stupid enough to
believe the lies. The change of policy will come from the French proletariat. If you are foolish enough to
believe in lies then you will get what you deserve. The President of France knows that he has to destroy
ISIS because he knows that revenge is coming from the French Proletariat. The last time in France the
revenge of the Proletariat led to the “Reign of Terror” few if any of the ruling class survived.
james baker says
your an idiot smart ass this is war no less
Jeremiah says
Well said Tokyo Rose!
Ernie says
Smart Guy , reprisals against Islam would not be SMART ? The Problem with Islam is NOT with the Muslims ? I’ve said it before : You are not smart , and I suspect you being a Muslim . Who calls himself SMART GUY ? HAHAHA ! Idiot !
Isabellathecrusader says
If only they really were afraid we might be able to gain some traction against them.
Do you know what Muslims are really afraid of? Being found out.
somehistory says
This is very telling : “The people who carried out the murders were not Muslim, they were not fanatics, they were assassins.”
If they say they were not “muslim” then why say they are not “fanatics”? Do they believe moslims and fanatics are one and the same? That the terms are interchangeable?
And: “they were assassins.” Well, moslims of long ago began the murderous ways of the “assassin.” To walk close to someone, pull a knife from the large, loose sleeve and stab that someone to death, then get lost in the crowds.
It’s time to hold accountable those who enable terrorists by denial of the facts of it being moslims involved in committing the terror.
There is an ad for a medication where the woman says she has “moderate to severe” whatever.
There is no med for the person with “mild” whatever, as it is mild and does not need more than an otc medication.
But the “moderate to severe” is all lumped together and in need of a prescription.
There may be “mild” moslims…those who don’t go to the barracks, who wish they could leave the death cult of the wild beast from satan.
Any “moderates” are in the same class as “severe” because they make the claims as the people are making now and saying they are “in fear” from the “backlash” that they know is not going to happen. They have to feel superior when attacking and get sympathy when the attack is over and they wish to go on with their “moderate” life of worshipping satan and hating all who don’t join them.
JawsV says
It’s infuriating to read this crap after the Muslims’ do their mass-murder-of-infidels thing. They have no shame. My God these throwbacks are destroying the world.
quotha raven says
Jaws – Please concentrate and keep your focus where it belongs: Climate Change is the biggest threat to our wellbeing at this time. Obama said so. Right before he said to George Stephanopolis on morning tv just hours before the Paris massacre that “We have contained ISIL” and before he released five more prisoners from Guantanamo the day AFTER the Paris massacre..
Cheers! quotha raven
JawsV says
Your sarcasm is right-on, raven. Our Cmdr-in-Chief who can’t even say the words “Muslims” “Islam” “Jihad.”
Jeremiah says
We can prevent further attacks by raiding mosques, jailing Imams and identifying those who teach the Koran. Then we don’t need to respond, we don’t need to fight it and we don’t need to defeat it. There is no reason for people to continue to live in fear except for Political Correctness. There is no need to fight all muslims, only those who object to the closure of mosques. There is no need to kill on a large scale, only those who are willing to defend Islam. It is Islam and its teaching which is our enemy! All this talk about trying to find terrorists is nonsense. All this fear is misplaced. Only Political Correctness can kill us. No need to “flag” anybody on a terror watch list. Bring them all in for questioning. Just close the mosques! The mosques contain the terror entire network that we are looking for. No terror network exists outside the mosques, so why are we avoiding mosques?
Ernie says
Dear Jeremiah , closing/destroying mosques is one thing . They will disappear……go in hiding ….underground . And then what ?
Jeremiah says
Thank you for your comments. Islam is sustained by the teaching of the Koran in education centers like mosques.. When the mosques are closed down, you are starving the military. You starve them of command and control. You isolate them and then destroy them.
mortimer says
The Muslim interviewed claimed “The people who carried out the murders WERE NOT MUSLIM, they were not fanatics, they were assassins. But not everyone sees that.”
We surely don’t see that ISIS isn’t Muslim…especially when the attackers claim: “Blessed Onslaught in Paris against the Crusader Nation of France”.
ISIS is led by one of the best Islamic scholars in the world, Caliph al Baghdadi. If Muslims won’t follow an expert on Islam, they should leave Islam.
Jeff Edelman says
They are so afraid of reprisals that they’re beating a hasty retreat back to their home countries, yes? NO!
Myxlplik says
Muslims are afraid because they know violent jihad isn’t radical Islam, it’s in their Quran, Hadith and very foundation of Mohammed’s prophetic career.
We know it, they know it. It’s only a matter of time before the melt down, Muslims would prefer later rather than sooner at this point. It isn’t complicated, none of it.
mortimer says
‘National Front leader Marine Le Pen quickly called on fellow citizens to “annihilate Islamist fundamentalism” and to “take back control” of their borders…’
We all agree Islam is a Death Cult that should be made illegal because the JIHAD DOCTRINE cannot be reformed or removed from Islam.
Border controls would have kept out illegal immigrants and terrorists.
The EU should stop fantasizing about Islam. Islam is not compatible with Europe or anywhere else.
WestDivide says
Sadly, it will take some decades for the EU reversal; if it can reverse. Ignorance, brainwashing and hatred learned from pre-K years to teens can hardly be erased. That generation must pass before any change can occur. But, it appears to me no change will occur, it’s been 1400 yrs and they won’t change their stripes. Islamic demise in Spain took centuries, and Europe attempts at conquest required major rebuttals.
Once, as a teen, I arose in my cold farmhouse room during the night, heading for the bathroom, and ran my nose smack into the edge of the partially open door. 60 yrs later, I still remember that impact. I took steps to never repeat that adventure.
Point being, behavior is changed by memorable events, and as noted above, cessation of violence requires sufficient violent reaction to make a lasting impression. Islam will require sufficient stunning to keep it reeling for another 1400 years.
Baucent says
“No public mention has been made of targeting mosques in Courcouronnes, but that hasn’t stopped residents here from worrying about the general atmosphere across Europe”.
Let me tell Christine Boyle about another group that is worried in this muslin neigbourhood. French Jews, who have been under increasing harassment and attacks on the streets of Paris, by muslims, many of them recent migrants. Such is the fear, many Jews are leaving France.
Dr. Divinity says
Jews are not the ones who need to be leaving France,or any other country for that matter, A concerted effort must be put forth,by all countries,to route out the bad guys,with the resolve to either destroy them, ,imprison them Orr deport them….Until that happens nothing will change. Harassment of,not only Jews,but all those who don’t follow the idea of Islamic terrorists will continue.Many will be murdered in the name of the Muslim fake moon god allah, something that should never be allowed to happen.
Abdullah says
This is why I am demanding separate country for large number of Muslims in France, because these racist French Christians will attack them just because of what 8 people done. Muslims don’t need to condemn these attack, we believe it is nothing to do with us or our religion Islam. If any of French majority Christians attack our French minority Muslim brothers we will fight back. Go and fight with so called terrorists not with normal innocent Muslims. With all these hate and anger where will we French Muslims go, this is our country this is for all not only for Christians, Jews. Be peaceful with us or give us another state like Pakistan from India.We have complete right on this land we Muslims will build mosques,madarsas and practice our religion much more,we didn’t care about terrorist attacks because those people targets you not us. That is your problem not us. Europe or France is not only for you, we have complete right on these places. If you don’t want to live with us it’s better we would separate peacefully. Separate Europe for Muslims in Europe.
Champ says
This is why I am demanding …
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This is where I stopped reading.
Scott M says
diitto ..this imbecile will make no demands of anyone.
Paul says
@Abdullah the child rapist warlord worshipper knows his
Mahoundian ‘religion’ is just a load of satanic nonsense.
He gets off on trying to wind people up. Either that or he’s
some ‘progressive’ leftist. What a pathetic attention seeker!
Baucent says
So how many muslims were killed after the Charlie Hebdo massacre? How many reprisal killings did Far Right Christians and Jews inflict on the muslim community? None.
As for your rights to a separate state, you are delusional. Muslims have no right to a state within a state, any more than Jews or Hindu’s have. You have your muslim lands already and if you don’t like secular France, be better for all you ship out to Pakistan or someplace else.
particolor says
How Quick they are to Abandon their Brothers !! 🙁 “It Wasn’t Us ”
But don’t forget its THEIR Country now ! So You respect that now You Christians and others !! WTF ?
That Kooran really Sinks In don’t it ?
Abdullah says
We don’t want to live under your control, we don’t want to live under your racist values racist laws, we don’t want to face your evil hatred against us. Scotland is a state within a state, still they have the right to separate. Muslims in France need referendum, we will decide our future whether to live together with hate mongers like you or not. No security for minorities in France, frequent police harassment, attacks on Muslims, shame on you France shame on you, you are nothing different than ISIS. We don’t want ISIS we don’t want France we want our country, a peaceful Muslim country. Don’t say go to middle east, because we were citizens of France, we live here under France constitution protection. We have the right to ask for self rule like Scotland. You didn’t oppose Scotland independence desire because they were Christians, but when it comes to Muslims you said we need to go Saudi or Iran. We were French by birth this is our land. We want our own separate land. This is time for all French Muslims to get independence from these racist French Jews and Christians. Fight with them on streets, stadiums, rock concerts, schools, colleges fight for our independence. This is not jihad we were not terrorist, this is how Indians fight against British, Americans fight against British. This is not about religion it’s about Muslim minority rights in France. Only we French Muslims will be safe under our own self rule. We were in millions it’s enough for us to demand own nation.
quotha raven says
Abdullah – I’m thinking you would find yourself attracted to the non-racist republican party in the good old USA. After all, unlike the dhimmicratz, within our four top potential nominees, we have a woman, a black and two hispanics…you creep.
Cheers!
quotha raven
bernie says
Abdullah: in France, especially in Paris, it’s not really possible for a person to wear a yarmulke or a Star of David necklace while walking down the street or going to the Metro, for example, without facing harassment or even violence, which comes mainly from Muslims (though a little bit might come from neo-Nazis on occasion).
As well, France has something like 752 “no-go” zones which are not safe for non-Muslims (especially for non-Muslim, white women, but also for other non-Muslims) to enter. These no-go zones largely don’t respect French secular and civil law, and seek to impose the worst extremes of Sharia law on everyone. So, who’s racist or bigoted here?!
BC says
You are here of your own choice nobody invited you here you just planted yourselves here.
If you prefer Islamic rule an sharia just go where it exists already, when your numbers grow large enough you will be demanding you govern the whole of Europe
Jay Boo says
Abdullah has a right to demand a separate Muslim majority country.
He is in luck because there happens to be plenty already on the planet and there are openings too since so many Muslims are leaving their Islamic hell-holes in a mass exodus.
Paul says
@Abdullah, if Mahoundians were able to colonise another
planet they’d destroy that just like everything else they’ve
ever come into contact with. Obviously, the martians there
would be to blame, never the followers of Mahound.
خَليفة says
You don’t want to live under our rule…
Why did you come here in the first place? Oh, to take over.. That means we can kill you to protect ourselves.
I personally think you would like to live under our rules – this way you can be openly gay and no one will want to kill you. You clearly are gay, by what you say and how you say it, you just have not been able to admit it to yourself – once you do you will feel a sense of relief.
chrissie01 says
French by birth? Certainly not.
If a cat gets kitten in a horse stable, that doesn’t make its kitten horses.
You are Arab and there are plenty of Arab countries your wonderful Islam has been implemented to the detriment of everybody’s happiness and societal growth.
Go there. France is the country of the French, in case you didn’t know.
Pat says
‘This is NOT religion’. Really? Do you really believe we’re that ignorant? Do you believe that in increasing numbers, we’ve been following what’s happening in the EU and UK? FOR DECADES?
Here’s my comment on another site, re America should take in Muslim ‘refugees’.
‘America must take refugees…” REALLY? WHY? It’s a HIJRAH. Why should we take in more ‘Boston Bomber’ types, on WELFARE, parasitizing AMERICAN taxpayers while they refuse to assimilate and with a totalitarian ideology they wish to impose on the world as their numbers grow?
Have you studied Islam? Read the Koran. Most Muslims haven’t. Our children are being brainwashed, while the left has its War on Christianity. Our God is NOT Allah. We have the freedom to NOT be Christians or to leave Christianity WITHOUT having a death sentence for APOSTASY put on our heads. We do not teach our kids to ‘kill the infidel (unbeliever) wherever you find him’. We are NOT supposed to LIE, as the Koran tells Muslims to do, through TAQIYYA, AND KITMAN, to protect and promote Islam. Then there’s ABROGATION, the repeal of what was written first, also found in
the Koran, which principle, means that the ‘verse of the sword’ ABROGATES,
repeals, the so-called ‘peaceful verses’. Our children aren’t being taught the
Islamic Supremacy belief, that the entire world should be a caliphate with every
person on earth, under Sharia. They’re NOT being taught that they would be
required to convert to Islam, OR BE DHIMMI, and have to pay a tax, JIZYA, to be
left alone, and thus, proving their submission to Islam.
As honest imams are saying, ‘there will be peace when you submit to Islam’. NEVER.
Besides reading Geller and Spencer’s books, read ‘The Grand Jihad’ by McCarthy,
understanding that you will be horrified at the perfidy at the highest levels
of our gov’t.
Learn Islam, for Islamists NEED US TO BE IGNORANT. Always remember TAQIYYA
& KITMAN.
Follow the below websites daily, for the real news which our media won’t give, plus they will lead to other websites:
– The Religion of Peace
-Jihad Watch (Islam 101 giving a concise start to learning about Islam, can be
found here.)
-Refugee Resettlement Watch (just found this site. Wish I had found it years
ago.)
-Pamela Geller
Sharia Law is a POLITICAL TOTALITARIAN IDEOLOGY, which controls every aspect of life. It is the exact opposite, and thus is incompatible, with our INDIVIDUAL FREEDOMS as guaranteed by our Constitution and Bill of Rights, and which the left, and yes, Obama, is shredding as fast as it can.
The current ‘refugee crisis’ in the EU, and the huge number of Muslims being
brought here, is a HIJRAH, an ’emigration to Islamize non-Islamic nations and
to impose Sharia law on us. Our nation WAS founded on Judeo-Christian values
and principles, though everything is turned upside down, by the Progressives,
who will not be happy when we start seeing the problems of the EU nations, who
have high Muslim numbers, brought here. Wow, will the leftists be SHOCKED, when they must face being DHIMMI, under Sharia. Western, non-Islamic nations, are DAR
AL-HARB, a House of War, not a Dar al-Islam, a House of Islam, and thus the
Koran and Hadiths, allow, even encourage certain behaviors by Muslims, until
their numbers get large enough, to impose Sharia, on the west. REMEMBER TAQIYYA AND KITMAN.
Read the entire article re the indoctrination of our children by Common Core, at the url, posted below:
“However, Common Core really originated from the Connect All Schools program,
which is part of the “One World Education” initiative orchestrated by Qatar
Foundation International (QFI). The director of QFI’s Research Center for
Islamic Legislation and Ethics is Tariq Ramadan, grandson of Hassan al-Banna
who was the founder of The Muslim Brotherhood.
QFI enlisted Pearson Education to implement and assess Common Core. Pearson
Education is listed on the London and New York Stock Exchange; the Libyan
Investment Authority is its largest financial contributor, most recently
holding 26 million shares.
According to the Financial Times, the Libyan Investment Authority was founded
by Muammar Gaddafi’s son, Seif al-Islam. Along with Qatar, Turkey and Saudi
Arabia also invested in the Libyan Investment Authority to fund Pearson
Education’s implementation of Common Core.”
Read more at
http://constitution.com/why-do…
Being soft-hearted or naïve, or delusional about Islam, can no longer fly. We are in WWIIII, not against a nation-state, but against Islamic totalitarianism and supremacy, pushed on KAFIR, GLOBALLY. Remember, the ENEMY has a say about war. I told my co-workers after 9/11, that one day we’d end up with problems in our nation, because of Islam, just like Israel. Well, Islamic jihadi attacks have happened here, and will do so more and more, given Obama and our gov’ts efforts to bring more Muslims here. I’m sorry I was right. I’m beginning to believe we are now in Biblical times.
WWIII is on progress, and the West is seriously ignorant and unprepared.
Islam, in one sense, TOTALITARIANISM, sounds like, Communist Cloward and Piven’s strategy, ‘Collapsing the system under the weight of the poor’, and Communist Alinsky ‘the ends justify the means’. Remember Obama taught Alinsky, and said right before the 2012 election, ‘Do whatever you have to do to win’, to the Dems. And Hillary’s mentor, was Alinsky, plus she wrote her glowing thesis praising Alinsky. Hmmm, sounds like stealth Communism, and how they took over here, for as Obama’s communist, Green Czar, Van Jones said, “I learned to drop the radical pose, to achieve the radical ends”. These remind me of Islam, TAQIYYA, KITMAN, DAR AL-HARB, etc.
2 more points: I strongly urge each of you to invest in your future and your family’s future, by watching 2 videos, by Dr. Bill Warner:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_Qpy0mXg8Y ‘Why We Are Afraid: A 1400 Year Secret’. This is real, not revisionist history, that Obama and Progressives are pushing, and liberals through ignorance, believe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQEcEYtWYB0 ‘The Political Side of Hijabs’. He makes some great points in this video. It isn’t very long.
Also: Luke 22:35-36(NKJV)
35And He said to them, “When I sent you without money bag, knapsack, and sandals, did you lack anything?” So they said, “Nothing.”
36Then He said to them, “But now, he who has a money bag, let him take it, and likewise a knapsack; and he who has no sword, let him sell his garment and buy one.
This was at the Last Supper, and Christ, knowing he was to die for our sins on the cross, was telling his disciples to prepare to defend themselves. I find myself singing, ‘Onward Christian Soldiers’ more and more these days. Times up! No more wimpy Christians. Although the press doesn’t harp on it, the massacre at UCC, WAS THE MURDER OF CHRISTIANS. The War on Christianity, is now, open, cannot be denied, and is being pushed by Progressives, as well as Islam, and is HERE, in the USA.
The Paris attacks WERE ISLAMIC JIHADISM, which we’ve experienced here, also. The delusional left, believes that signs, flowers, candles, etc., will change the hearts of Islamists. NO, THE LIBERAL NONSENSE WON’T, BECAUSE good Muslims are to follow the ‘perfect model of behavior’, pedophile, misogynist, slaver, rapist, racist, genocidal murderer, Mohammed.’ When I hear so-called ‘secular’ Muslims calling for modernization of Islam, separating ‘mosque and state’…in other words, no Sharia, I honestly wonder, HOW CAN THAT BE ACHIEVED, AND STILL BE ISLAM? To have Islam become the peaceful, Meccan type of Islam, they would have to deny the fact that their calendar STARTS with Mohammed becoming a warrior, as described above, in Medina, indicating that Islam is WAR against anyone not agreeing. They would have to deny the fact that Allah isn’t all knowing, as the religious principle of ABROGATION proves that Allah didn’t know what he was doing at first, as ‘what was written last, ABROGATES, REPEALS, that which was written last.’
Yet I haven’t been able to get any news anchor on any station, to ASK A SO-CALLED ‘GOOD, MODERATE MUSLIM’ how Islam could be modernized, as al-Sisi demanded of the imams, to his credit, and to his personal danger:
http://pjmedia.com/rogerlsimon/2015/01/03/egypts-al-sisi-makes-extraordinary-speech-on-islam/
“I am referring here to the religious clerics. We have to think hard about what we are facing—and I have, in fact, addressed this topic a couple of times before. It’s inconceivable that the thinking that we hold most sacred should cause the entire umma [Islamic world] to be a source of anxiety, danger, killing and destruction for the rest of the world. Impossible!”
Read the rest at the url, if you don’t remember this stunning speech in Jan. Also, remember that Turkey’s Erdogan said, “Islam is Islam”. No moderates, in other words.
pdxnag says
Fantastic snarkasm. Declare the amorphous no-go-zones instead as official non-French zones. Any police action by the French within them would represent an act of war. You must have read the U.N. provisions for seeking statehood. Now you just need to cover all the lands needed to connect each of the 750+ Muslim-only (non-French, anti-French, anti-West, anti-Individual Liberty) hell zones in France.
The bad cop good cop routine always involves ratcheting up the level of Islam, as a consequence of Islam. It keeps further restricting the flow of freedom just like a Boa Constrictor blocking the flow of life giving blood of its prey.
SpiritOf1683 says
If you don’t want to live in the West and abide by our laws and customs, if you find them abhorrent, then bugger off to Pakistan. You and your evil sort won’t be missed, and you’ll save us a packet.
Pete roberts says
Abdullah … You dick ead … You are a minority within France … A small minority … 4million out of 66 million ..but don’t mistake French tolerance for a weakness …. The French will fight and even if you had 30 million you could not defeat the French people ….. You say you are French because you were born there ? … Well let’s ask a few questions to see if you know France’s great great history !!… I’ve no doubt you can verbalise every page of the Koran but at doesn’t mean you are intelligent .. So here we go …1 , who led France from Britain in the 2nd world war ? 2 . Which French ruler galvanised the French nation Gaul against the Romans under Julia’s ceased ?
3 . Name the poet or writter who actually witnessed the battle of Waterloo ? 4 . Name napoleons best best troops ?
5 . Name France’s female leader who beat … Eventually the English in the 100 year war ? ……. Bet you use Wikipedia to answer but l bet you don’t know any any answers …., your just a parasite living on the host body ?… Wander
terry says
If you do not like the countries you have been graciously allowed into- then leave and go back where you came from! Assimilate by living peacefully, and respecting the cultures and laws of the lands to which you have come, or… One word: DEPORTATION.
Laura says
This fake victimhood whining is getting pretty old. They constantly moan and groan about how the infidels will take revenge – yet, it hasn’t happened to any degree – except by some of their compatriots seeking attention and using their taqqyia. No sympathy here.
DeKadt says
The ‘funny’ thing is: where is the muslim indignation in this? The protests? The ‘moral thing’? It’s deadly silent in all muslim communities around the world. You never see or hear muslims taking to the streets and denouncing all these radical murderers. Muslims only take to the streets when something is happening around Israel., a minute country in a sea of muslim hatred. That’s what the world sees anyway. Muslims are always silent when it comes to their own barbaric brothers slashing away. Muslims are alway looking the other way. Muslims only feel sorry for … muslims. Other people don’t matter, only muslims are the underdog. It’s pathetic really. Very pathetic.
Jaladhi says
How can get and indignation from most immoral, dishonest, hypocrites for the terror attack by Muslims. They consider it as a divine order to kill us even though they live among us. They are not humans – case closed!!
خَليفة says
Yes, we all know Muslims are not human. The only good that comes out of Islam is the converts to Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism and atheism.
Jay Boo says
Muslims used to be able to plead ignorance but today they have no honest excuse to cover up their willful ignorance.
They milked that cow dry.
Or for sheep herding Muslims, “They milked that ewe dry.”
خَليفة says
I think they started milking the goat hoping no one would notice.
quotha raven says
To Abdullah – A number of the more informed and articulate JW commenters here have questioned in the past your background and motives after reading your comments. Thank you for providing them and me an answer. Your comment above, especially how you “reason”, makes it perfectly clear that you are practicing jihad in your own toxic way. Hand you over a chunk or France – or anywhere, for that matter – ? Well, probably not.
Cheers!
quotha raven
pdxnag says
It is skillful jesting to flush out the intemperate, for prosecution (lawful or otherwise, today or in the distant future).
خَليفة says
Remember when Egypy offered land for a Palestinian state?
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/09/09/did-egypt-offer-to-solve-palestinian-problem/
This shows the way the Muslim mind doesn’t work
mauritania says
Your separate state would collapse under the weight of the lazy, welfare dependent criminals that make up most of the muslim population. Nothing could be better for Europe than you separating from it but in your stupidity you fail to acknowledge your parasitical need for the more evolved Europeans who provide you with your livelihood.
Abdullah says
Let’s give a state and see what will happen. Only a two state solution is reasonable, one for millions of native French Muslims(who were naturalized citizens not immigrants) and one for rest of all French people who don’t want to live under Islamic French.
Dave says
You Mohammedans really amuse me. First, you invade countries en masse, in a manner reminiscent of locusts, because you’re “oppressed” by your Islamic brethren. And if a nation is gullible enough to fall for that, you ungrateful filth don’t agree to accept their cultural norms. You want to have your cake, and eat it too! In case you’re too dull to understand the phrase I just used, it means that you can’t enjoy Western privilege, while trying to force your deluded, evil ideology on those who grant you said privileged conditions. But a lack of gratitude and a bestial cunning, constantly seeking to backstab and exploit, are typical of Mohammedanism, and thus I wouldn’t expect anything else, coming from a devout adherent of that totalitarian ideology.
Luckily, it’s that exact ungrateful, tyrannical attitude that’ll get you kcked out of civilized nations as soon as your degenerate behavior erodes the decades of PC/MC brainwashing that Westerners have been subjected to by “intellectuals”. The clock’s ticking, Mohammedan! Enjoy Europe while you can!
A two state solution with barbarians is an impossibility. Take it from someone who’s from a country that tried that with your savage comrades-in-arms (Israel). Coexistance with Mohammedans is impossible, seeing as they don’t accept anyone who isn’t like them (to the point of slaughtering other Mohammedans who disagree with them!).
Jay Boo says
Muslims should freely return Medina in Saudi Arabia and all of Jerusalem back to the Jews and move to Muslim countries.
Westman says
Abdullah,
You call yourself French because you were raised in France. Have you declared allegiance to France? Are you willing to serve in the armed forces of France?
If not, you are not French, you are a foreign national living in a parallel society; by your own admission, a seditionist calling for an unearned independent state. Perhaps you are aquainted with the American Civil War. This is what will happen in France should Muslims follow your selfish desire. Your supremist, non-cooperative, Islamic ideology is the problem, not France.
Westman says
I suspect Abdullah could be a troll. It is very unusual for someone to post Anjem Choudary comments almost verbatim and fitting them so precisely with a number of issues.
chrissie01 says
Your entitlement never ends.
You were colonized. Thank the French for it, because it got you out of the stone age.
Now you want their country. No shame whatsoever, right?
The reason is simple:
Because you yourself are never and will never be able to create an attractive peaceful country ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, like we do. Show me one muslim country without fanaticism, corruption, greed and terrible poverty.
Show me one with a functioning social system.
All you are able is to is to come a beggars, but with such a proud and demanding attitude, right? Quite unpleasant, I should say
Not the right attitude for incapable beggars, I would think.
ExMuz says
Had this happened in a muslim country and christians had been the perpetrators and muslims victims you had eradicated all of them you stupid shithead.
BC says
Abdullah. you seem to not understand you all already have separate states which you left of your own free will,
you are free to return to them now at any time, The govt will probably pay your fare! Nobody will stop you and we will be happy to see you go.
I expect if you did nave a separate state you would still want the French govt. to keep paying your benefits
chrissie01 says
Yes, and we get on our knees and thank our God for the good riddance!
bernie says
Abdullah: have you read the profiles of the victims? A large number of Muslims, both French and non-French, were killed and wounded in the attacks, similar to 9/11 in the U.S., or the Mumbai massacre in India.
The French and European authorities should investigate the mosques which these terrorists attended, and find out if the respective imams were preaching hate,prejudice or violence towards non-Muslims (or even towards other Muslim groups, such as Sunni versus Shi’a or vice-versa), or if they were aiding or abetting terrorism with money, drugs or weapons. If such things are the case, then the mosques should be closed, and the imams criminally prosecuted. The politically-correct, false racism card doesn’t work anymore.
Enough is enough.
AnneM says
ISIS = Real face Islam.
Ernie says
Abdullah , you are DEMANDING ? O.K. , I am TELLING you to GO AWAY , F.O. and don’t come back , piece of filth . Yes , I’m very pissed off . Hence the crude language Abdullah .
Ernie says
Besides Abdullah , I’ve made a decision . I will not talk with or to muslims anymore .
JawsV says
Ernie: I never have. I wouldn’t. Where do you come into contact with Mohammedans?
Ernie says
My neighbourhood is full of muslims , most of them Moroccan , few Turks . There are Afghani’s aswell , Iranians , Iraqi’s ,Syrians , Somalians , Erithreans , Surinam muslims , Indonesian muslims , etc . It’s one of the poorest neighbourhoods of Hoofddorp ( near Schiphol Airport ) . I,ve been called names , I’ve been threatened , I’ve been beaten up , I’ve been mugged , and I’ve been raped by four Moroccan guys ( when I was 14 years young ). Enough ?
Ernie says
Dear Jawes V ,I like to forgive , I’m a Christian . It’s really hard , I’m 58 years now , still damaged . Still damaged , still pissed off .
chrissie01 says
Hello, Ernie,
so sorry to hear that you had to suffer all this.
It takes a lifetime to heal.
These people should not even be allowed within our borders. Period.
They hate us and want to damage us.
Refer to the post of this ‘Muhamad’ or whatever.
How can you live in France as a gueest and at the same time try and divide the country?
It’s pure hate. He needs to be escorted to his beautiful islamic country.
Hope that all will turn out well for you!
C.
Ernie says
Thank you Chrissie for your kind words , I’ve long hesitated unveiling my very personal experiences . I’m glad I’ve opened up now . Thank you again love !
Jaladhi says
Hey Abdullah, you have no right on this planet earth. Earth is for humans and not for mosters!! You are best suited for Mars, so go there with your 1.25 billion tribe and don’t ever come back!!
Jaladhi says
Hey Abdullah, you have no right on this planet earth. Earth is for humans and not for monsters!! You are best suited for Mars, so go there with your 1.25 billion tribe and don’t ever come back!!
JawsV says
Shut-up, Muslim. You’re a scourge on the planet. And you’re not French – not in any way shape or form. You’re MUSLIMS. Go back to your stone age Muslim countries where you belong and take your mosks with you.
Ernie says
And your family and friends , the whole UMMAH . LEAVE now you still can .
Miao Zedong says
Ya munafiq abdullah – Europe is ours. You will never belong to us, you will never be European, you may cause trouble for a while, even centuries – in the end you will be thrown out again as in Spain.
What seesm to be our weakness is just a kind heart. See what happens when kindness is replace by good old fighing spirit.
Jaladhi says
Yes, let them continue with their jihad and it will bring crusades back!
Ernie says
Dear Jaladhi I’m for that , CRUSADES . Let’s free our own countries of the burden of islam , and take back what is/was ours . YES WE CAN ( Sorry for the last words , but Obama stole my words and won the presedency , next time better I hope !).
TheBuffster says
So even before there’s evidence of a backlash, you’re *demanding* a separate state in France? Because you think it *might* happen? And you say: “This is time for all French Muslims to get independence from these racist French Jews and Christians. Fight with them on streets, stadiums, rock concerts, schools, colleges fight for our independence.”
When has there been any significant backlash in France against Muslims? Did Frenchmen burn down Muslim neighborhoods after Charlie Hebdo? I don’t remember that.
So if France were to accept a Muslim state within France, would that state live peacefully with what remained of France and with other European nations in the area? Or would the Muslim state attract a massive population of jihadists, who would use it as a base from which to try to conquer more and more territory? (Even if that wasn’t the intention of those who set the state up, they wouldn’t be able to stop their new country from being taken over by the more radical elements. ISIS would make sure of that.)
The Palestinians surrounding Israel could have had their own state long ago and could be living in peace and trading with Israel. They could be a prosperous little nation now. But their leaders turned down all the concessions Israel was willing to make for peace. Repeatedly. The Palestinian leaders didn’t want peace, they wanted Israel gone. They made war against Israel and when it wasn’t outright war, it was terrorism. And when Israel fought back and conquered some land as a buffer zone, the Palestinians acted as if Israel had been the aggressor.
But Israel was the defender, doing what it had to do. It wasn’t the aggressor, it was just more competent than its enemies. (And some stupid people in the West confuse successful self-defense with aggression and see the losing side as the underdog, the people to be sided with. Europe has made that mistake, but I’m afraid that soon it’s going discover on its own hide what Israel has had to deal with and why it does what it does.)
By demanding a separate state in France or anywhere else in Europe, Muslims will not be building good will and trust with the Europeans. Instead, they will be serving notice that if they don’t get their separate state, they will make war. And if they should get their state, why should Europeans trust that that Muslim state will treat its kafir neighbors any better than the Muslims surrounding Israel have treated Israel?
It is clear to me that, although nominal Muslims want to live where Sharia isn’t and have no dreams of jihad and a caliphate, serious Muslims like yourself *do* want a Muslim State. You claim it’s because Europeans are “racist”, and yet Muslims are coming into Europe by the hundreds of thousands. If Europe is so “racist”, why go there instead of countries whose religion and customs are more compatible? If Europe is so inhospitable to Muslims that they need to form their own separate state in a part of France, it occurs to me that perhaps the alleged refugees real aim is to go to a place (Europe) where their presence will create strife, and thus create an excuse to demand their own state… and to get violent if France turns them down. And – viola! – the jihad comes to Europe!
Is that what you’re really after, Abdullah?
quotha raven says
To THEBUFFSTER – who asks, “Is that what you’re really after, Abdullah?” Good comment TB.
I believe that is EXACTLY what Abdullah is all about.
Cheers!
St. Croix says
As usual, the same poppycock from Abdullah and millions other like him.
Here in Canada, Muslims are “cautioned” by a Canadian muslim group. Why? Not cautioned to be vigilant to look for radicals and turn them in. Not to stand on guard because there might be nasty muslims running around looking to give them all a bad name, and they should be stopped. No. Cautioned to save their skins. Because they might be attacked. By non-muslim Canadians. How often has that ever happened? The BS never seems to end! https://ca.news.yahoo.com/canadian-muslim-group-cautions-members-vigilant-paris-attacks-090012413.html;_ylt=AkF6hoyFxORMJDEOUhagMVwcssB_;_ylu=X3oDMTE2OHZkaDVwBG1pdAMEcG9zAzgEc2VjA01lZGlhQkNhcm91c2VsTWl4ZWRMUENB;_ylg=X3oDMTBhdnVpNmo3BGxhbmcDZW4tQ0E-;_ylv=3
St. Croix says
But the muslims don’t need to fear here in Canada or most anywhere else, because they seem to have an international diplomatic immunity that protects them from any accountability despite the evil they perpetuate and, if not actually perpetuating with their own hands, supporting it via money, words, stance, allegiance to the filthy book they revere, blaming and libel to those who point out the truth of what islam is.
And now we have leadership in this country of Canada which toes the politically correct line–that its all about religious freedom.
Freedom to kill others? Freedom to ruin the country that has taken you in and supported you? Yes, the muslim appropriates all those freedoms, if and when possible. Those are, in fact, tenets of their religion.
Jim Horn says
Abdullah: You are demanding a separate country or territory in France? You are a filthy Infidel on Christian soil, a guest, and nothing more. If you don’t like this fact, return to where you came from – a Moslem place where you will be welcomed as a brother.
6ecca says
So already the Muslims are claiming victim hood of the Paris attacks…..It really never takes them long does it?….What about the concern for their fellow French men and women….they are the ones who are being targeted for not being Muslim……They are the ones who continue to live with an actual threat to their lives rather than the possibility of one…How about showing some solidarity with them rather than cowering from something that has yet to happen, and might never happen
TheBuffster says
Well said!
Jeremiah says
Victimhood is part of the damage control formula in the Alinsky model of civil unrest.
K. says
But there is already a country for you. In fact, there are over 50 of them. Go there and take your ideological filth with you, and nobody will smite you. But demand yet another chunk out of OUR land, and you expose what you really are. You and your ilk have outstayed your welcome long ago.
CogitoErgoSum says
It looks like it is your problem now, Abdullah, as well as ours. If you don’t like what is being done in the name of your religion, either stop those bad people from doing terrible things in the name of your religion ……. or switch your religion. But if you insist on pretending to be the helpless victim, I have no sympathy for you. So go ahead; you can do it. Switch your religion …….. and you won’t even have to pay any sort of jizya tax or humble yourself like a dhimmi. You can be free and equal among your new brothers in the same country. Things CAN be better for you.
SpiritOf1683 says
Yopur separate country is Pakistan. Over there you go. And as for Muslims in France, their separate countries are Algeria, Morocco, Tunisia, Senegal, Mauretania etc.
TheBuffster says
Abdullah, guess what small ethnic group in France has seen rising threats, harassment, property damage, beatings and occasional murders simply because of their ethnicity?
Jews.
And guess who is responsible for most of that anti-Semitic behavior?
I think you know, but I’ll spell it out: M.U.S.L.I.M.S.
Of course, not all Muslims are in on it. But when the anti-Jewish hate crimes happen these days, it’s usually Muslims who have done the deed.
So are Jews demanding a Jewish state within France?
Certainly not. When they conclude that they are no longer safe in France, they go to Israel where – even though they’re not safe there either because of anti-Semitic Muslims – the police and armed services are on their side and don’t cower before trumped-up accusations of Islamophobia, and Jews are allowed to carry arms for self-defense.
Jews make no demands for yet another state for themselves. They have one tiny state in the Middle East, surrounded by enemies, and that’s all they ask for.
You, Abdullah, and those Muslims who think like you, have something like 50 countries from which you can choose the one most amenable to your version of Islamic belief. They should be as eager to welcome you in as Israel is eager to welcome any Jew who wants to find refuge.
Why are the Jews satisfied with their tiny sliver of virtually oil-free desert, on which they have built – despite being threatened on all sides by hostile Arabs – a productive, creative, prosperous nation, but you, Abdullah, want to carve a Muslim country out of Europe in a world where the whole Middle East (except for Israel) and more is Muslim?
Some people say that the Jews are greedy, but I think it’s Abdullah who’s the greedy one.
Kepha says
Hey, Franz Fanon said it was imperative for Algerian Muslims to murder French colonialists in order to reclaim their manhood. What if…your fear of “racist French Christians” is because you can guess how sauce for the goose might be sauce for the gander?
It’s been a long time since French Pieds Noirs polluted Algeria with their vinticulture; but not so long since Muslims in France have snarled traffic with large public pray-ins (requiring, I understand, that they get on the ground with their bottoms up), burned cars, assaulted Jews (including murder of school children), and have now blown things up and murdered. Could it be that these French, who love their own, but are open enough to others to receive immigrants who respect them and assimilate at least partially, are not racist at all? Abdallah, how does your demand for a slice of French territory differ one whit from France’s annexation of Algeria?
I’m sure Daesh would welcome you in one of the parts off Syria or Iraq that they control. Nobody says you have to live in France, or the USA, or Britain, or Germany.
quotha raven says
To Kepha, who sez “Nobody says you have to live in France, or the USA, or Britain, or Germany.”
Or Sweden* or Denmark or Norway or The Nederlands or Belgium or Italy or Greece or Spain or Australia or Canada or…shall I go on? But they ARE being encouraged by most western and especially EU governments, Kepha. Look at Merkle in Germany:0
*Sweden, little Sweden has lost several sizable towns to the invaders, Malmo and some other towns, and their formerly negligible rape statistics have soared in the last decade by several thousand percent. As experienced with the children of Rotherham, in northern England not far, I believe, from Newcastle (?) for more than a decade, concurrent with the invasion.
Catastrophic rape stats have also shown up in Norway, concurrent with the invasion. Apparently, they just can’t keep it in their pants. But rape is really demonstrative of savage and uncivilized lack of respect for law or another human being. Sociopathy, as directed by the Qur’an. I experienced as a young woman journalist traveling alone in the mid-70s jaw-droppng disrespect from Muslim men in Khartoum – it was stunning; I’d never experienced in all my travels such sneering disrespect right to my face! One can see a direct cause and effect relationship between these animals raping so many and the repressive, sick, misogynistic sexual nature of Islam. I’m not making excuses, I’m loathing that whole culture, religion and way of life.
Sweden may be waking up. The people are totally raving, but the government is unresponsive. Recently there has been howling in congress for updating of the immigration policies, impressive speeches.
Denmark seems to be taking some defensive action.
Brussels can’t even police or control its own ghetto; what a horrifying week after Paris, for Brussels, for Belgium.
I am having a hard time understanding exactly why all western governments are bending over for these invaders and inviting more…though that seems to be about to change…these European governments in the EU and in the UK are totally unresponsive to the people, who have been saying “ENOUGH” for a number of years now. How come all these governments seem to hang together with regard suicidal obsequiousness towards these hoards and invite hundreds of thousands MORE of them? Surely they know what they are doing. Why are they doing it? To establish a permanent underclass and chaos where order more or less prevailed before these governments began to import these people in DROVES, ever since the Teddy Kennedy rewriting immigration law and policy to favor 3rd worlders over Europeans…maybe 1970-ish? It just can’t be sheer ignorance, can it?
Cheers!
quotha raven
Georg says
madarsas
Wiser Monkeys says
Do check the opinion polls to understand that the “tiny minority” of extremists is a myth.
Pew Research in 2007 (http://pewresearch.org/assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60) found that:
42% of young Muslims in France believe suicide bombings are justified, 35% of overall population.
Puts their “victimhood” in a different light.
For a UK summary of Muslim opinion, see http://wisermonkeys.uk/muslimopinion.html
BC says
Many thanks for the useful and valuable references
Wiser Monkeys says
@BC: You are most welcome. We were appalled about how few folk had any idea about the facts or data. That’s why we set up our website to try and give people evidence-based “facts in a nutshell”. Our latest piece is on Sharia law at:
http://wisermonkeys.uk/islam.html#sharia
ECAW says
Good work, Wiser Monkeys. Many thanks.
Georg says
TYVM
Bozzi says
Sorry for my approximate English. I’m French. I live in the Paris area. The judge Marc Trevidic, in charge of counter-terrorism for years, was interviewed on national tv and brought a very interesting information: “the strategy of Isis is to strike countries who fight them, so that they turn against their own muslim population, so that their muslim population would radicalize (through the feeling of persecution) and join Isis. He said that this strategy was carefully thought through and planified.”
quotha raven says
To Bozzi – Your English is fine; you got the point across, and thank you for posting yours above.
The strategy described is convoluted, manipulative, sophisticated and absolutely Machiavellian. Are people really that clever to conceive and implement such a scheme? NOT a rhetorical question.
Cheers!
quotha raven
Kepha says
Since ISIS’ strategy is so cunningly Machiavellian, I do not fear it one whit. A handful of sensible Western leaders, and these Machiavellian Daesh folks will be in the same boat as the Italian princes to whom Machiavelli said nothing that they didn’t think they already knew–divided, squabbling, and ever ready to be victimized by the stronger.
Machiavelli’s plan was to train the Prince who would drive out the “barbarian” Germans, French, and Aragonese and unite Italy. But it took well over 300 years for Machiavelli’s vision to become reality. Not a good track record, folks. If your system is good at engendering mistrust and encourages a mere mask of virtue (otherwise called hypocrisy, through which most people see sooner or later), you’re building on quicksand.
My guess is that as soon as Al-Baghdadi goes the way of all flesh, his Machiavellian disciples will end up in a swamp of mutual mistrust, discord, and squabbling over privileges and turf. We;ll have Arabia after the death of Muhammad the false prophet all over again, with nothing left to see except who’s Al-Baghdadi’s AbuBekr and who’s his ‘Ali ibn Abu Taleb–and who sells out to which highest bidder sooner (as the French, Germans, and Aragonese did with the various Machiavellian Italian princelings through the years).
quotha raven says
To Kepha, who sez “My guess is that as soon as Al-Baghdadi goes the way of all flesh, his Machiavellian disciples will end up in a swamp of mutual mistrust, discord, and squabbling over privileges and turf.”
Thank you for the rich context for Machiavelli and how his strategy worked, and what we might expect from implementation of the same by those eager for a global caliphate through jihad and the psychological manipulation described by the judge Bozzi quotes.
It seems to me a ray of hope shines through, and I like your crafting of the West as potentially victorious via “a handful of sensible western leaders”. The problem is that these days Western leaders of this ilk are few and far between, and nearly invisible and inaudible, so that the West, with Europe leading, is being strong-armed into political correctness and dhimmitude against the will of a vast number of the people.
The atrocity in Paris may impose an impetus for a different stance by some of these cynical pols (not Obama, who seems to think he’s doing a terrific job). What they will actually DO is something else again.
Cheers!
quotha raven
Obama was up there today, scolding Americans for being unkind and ungenerous…”that’s not who we are…” Gag me with a fork.
Cheers!
quotha raven
Miao Zedong says
Which is the wrong approach. Before throwing the first stone against any muslim I would rather see Merkel, Cameron and Obama stoned to death. After all they are the enabler of this terror.
Kepha says
Hear, Hear, Mr. Miao!
Jeremiah says
Dont focus on stoning people. Focus on un-stoning mosques.
We can prevent further attacks by raiding mosques, jailing Imams and identifying those who teach the Koran. Then we don’t need to respond, we don’t need to fight it and we don’t need to defeat it. There is no reason for people to continue to live in fear except for Political Correctness. There is no need to fight all muslims, only those who object to the closure of mosques. There is no need to kill on a large scale, only those who are willing to defend Islam. It is Islam and its teaching which is our enemy! All this talk about trying to find terrorists is nonsense. All this fear is misplaced. Only Political Correctness can kill us. No need to “flag” anybody on a terror watch list. Bring them all in for questioning. Just close the mosques! The mosques contain the terror entire network that we are looking for. No terror network exists outside the mosques, so why are we avoiding mosques?
quotha raven says
To Bozzi – On a personal note, I am terribly sad for what has happened and is happening to Paris and quite a few other French cities and towns, and I hope you didn’t lose anyone close to you in this most recent atrocity. My memories of Paris couldn’t be more vivid, though I’ve not been there for ten years. On May Day, a handsome stranger gave me a little bunch of lilies of the valley, and another guy said to me “my dad always told me if it weren’t for you Yanks, we’d all be speaking German!” And he bought me a drink. I said to an angry young guy who claimed he was not French; he was Corsican – although he’d lived most of his life in Paris, “Vous etes un enfant perdu!” It just popped out! I was actually there on business, and my Paris contacts in the Police Nationale were exceptionally accommodating. I just love Paris, and to imagine its being devastated just hurts my heart. I hope this catastrophe leads to some sensible action to begin to turn the situation around. I believe there is hope that this might happen.
A la votre!
quotha raven
Rick Spencer says
Abdullah, You are a typical brainwashed Mohammedan! Why don’t you pack your dirty bags and head for an Islamic paradise, such as Saudi Arabia or Yemen, or perhaps Iran?
If Mohammedans (not only ‘French’ ones) were to be granted a separate state (or province) in Europe, it would soon become another dis-functional dust-bowl!
Please fuck of to a ‘beautiful’ sharia place, where no one will worry when you kill other Mohammedans!
BC says
Frankly retaliation would be well deserved as so may of Muslims are anti Western civilisation.
However do not fear as Jews and Christians take pride in being civilised and toerant and do not want to descend to your barbaric level
bc says
Frankly retaliation would be well deserved as so may of Muslims are anti Western civilisation.
However do not fear as Jews and Christians take pride in being civilised and tolerant and do not want to descend to your barbaric level,
That is why all you Muslims are in Europe because you feel safe here even though you are always claiming victimhood. plus you are able to live without dong much work and the state pays you to breed as well
Lawrence says
If California got nuked by the followers of Mohammed, the LA Times would fret about the Islamophobic backlash. Even as they were irradiated and dying. The Left will never change, they are the enemy as much as the Muslim fanatics.
David says
It appears that abdula is an ABSOLUTE ASS HOLE! Of the worst sort. My recommendation is a long prison sentence OR deport his sorry ass back to shitholelastan!!!!
Angemon says
Loch Ness monster attacks – we keep hearing about them from people who know someone who know someone who know someone who witnessed it, but there’s never actual evidence of their existence.
The implication there is that foreigners are poisoning France’s “moderate” muslims. That’s fundamentally wrong.
politicalqrm says
Oh, so they’re afraid of reprisals… Give me a break. This is a case of the perpetrators trying to make themselves the hapless victims to garner empathy from a population who they would gladly kill to establish a world-wide caliphate.
This is nothing but acting on their part to continue the myth of ‘moderate’ Muslims.
Paul Paul says
Abdullah. Your and your fellow indoctrinates’ sense and belief of supremacy over anyone who do not align themselves with your beliefs is so very clear. Go back to your sordid village and you can practice your despicable, murderous religion there without interference. You’ll have work, though, as your benefits won’t come with you. You’ll be OK, though, as you can revert to type and lie, cheat and steal what you need.
Cathy says
Wow, there’s no empathy for the suffering people who are injured or the ones who died in Paris? Islam is definitely a selfish religion if the Muslims in France are crying about the Islamophobia they expect to encounter, just days after the horrific terrorism there. I cannot imagine being so heartless as to NOT mourn for my dead and injured countrymen.
But what, do they really consider the French people to be their countrymen? Nope. They consider the Islamic caliphate to be their country.
This is deceit, plain and simple. And the PC media is eating it up! I don’t trust any Muslim to tell the truth anymore. People who have wrong and selfish intentions usually try to lie or deceive.
Why are the liberals not seeing that being “once burned twice shy” is healthy thinking?
sahani says
West and Europe should learn From Mohammed How he kept the arab tribal fools in control. Prayers every Hr all prayers under one roof. All need to be kept busy so they can’t plan revolt .
. Give them no time to think all read one book.
If you want to control these fools you need system.
Don’t give them anything free make them work for a penny even.
Seamus Doyle says
Such horrible people to condemn Muslims. Islam is a religion of peace people!!!
Like it or not Islam will sort Europe out morally. You so called christians will just sit and take what’s coming end of.
boakai ngombu says
the allah god of islam (unknowable; the best of all deceivers) shows its malevolence and belligerence to the world through slaves like you. your moral example – Mohammad (lately contrived; full of ineluctable lusts) – is immoral according to the standards given to Moses. those standards lead to righteous ways against which you whine and complain, rob and assault, rape and murder and otherwise besmirch. and your brother at the mosque are just llke you
Aardvark says
France claims to have made a ‘massive’ air strike on Raqqa in response to the Paris atrocities.
They dropped twenty (20) bombs.
Compare that to the World War II blitz, which lasted over 200 days, and during which the Luftwaffe dropped over 300 bombs and thousands of incendiaries per day…
Seems a bit feeble to me!
Jeremiah says
Feeble? Ah you noticed the difference between an indignant response and a politically correct response? They probably had time to evacuate the files out of those buildings.
shabeerhassan0 says
ISLAM VS ISIS
IDENTITY OF ISLAM: QURAN & SUNNA OF OUR RASOOL(SA)
Malik :: Book 46 : Hadith 46.1.3
Yahya related to me from Malik that he heard that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, “I have left two matters with you. As long as you hold to them, you will not go the wrong way. They are the Book of Allah and the Sunna of His Prophet.”
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 92 :: Hadith 415
Narrated Humaid:
I heard Muawiya bin Abi Sufyan delivering a sermon. He said, “I heard the Prophet saying, “If Allah wants to do a favor to somebody, He bestows on him, the gift of understanding the Quran and Sunna. I am but a distributor, and Allah is the Giver. The state of this nation will remain good till the Hour is established, or till Allah’s Order comes.”
PEOPLE MAKING SELF LAW/BID’A PROHIBITED/SELF MAKING HARAM/PERSONAL OPINION
28: 50. But if they answer you not (i.e. do not believe in your doctrine of Islâmic Monotheism, nor follow you), then know that they only follow their own lusts. And who is more astray than one who follows his own lusts, without guidance from Allâh? Verily! Allâh guides not the people who are Zâlimûn (wrong-doers, disobedient to Allâh, and polytheists).
38: 26. O Dâwûd (David)! Verily! We have placed you as a successor on earth, so judge you between men in truth (and justice) and follow not your desire for it will mislead you from the Path of Allâh. Verily! Those who wander astray from the Path of Allâh (shall) have a severe torment, because they forgot the Day of Reckoning.
PROPHET(SA) TRIED TO STOPS KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE AS MUCH AS HE CAN POSSIBLE:
Muslim :: Book 19 : Hadith 4399
It has been narrated on the authority of Abdullah b. Muti’ who heard from his father and said: I heard the Holy Prophet (may peace be upon him) say on the day of the Conquest of Mecca: No Quraishite will be killed hound hand and foot from this day until the Day of judgment.
Muslim :: Book 7 : Hadith 3142
Abu Huraira, (Allah be pleased with him) reported. When Allah, the Exalted and Majestic, granted Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) victory over Mecca, he stood before people and praised and extolled Allah and then said:…………it (this territory) was not violable to anyone before me and it was made violable to me for an hour of a day, and it shall not be violable to anyone after me. So neither molest the game, nor weed out thorns from it. And it is not lawful for anyone to pick up a thing dropped but one who makes public announcement of it. And it a relative of anyone is killed he is entitled to opt for one of two things. Either he should be paid blood-money or he can take life as (a just retribution).
PROHIBIT KILLING WITH UNJUST:
3:21. Verily! Those who disbelieve in the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allah and kill the Prophets without right, and kill those men who order just dealings, announce to them a painful torment.
5: 32. Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land – it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits set by Allah by committing the major sins) in the land!.
6: 151. Say (O Muhammad SAW): “Come, I will recite what your Lord has prohibited you from: Join not anything in worship with Him; be good and dutiful to your parents; kill not your children because of poverty – We provide sustenance for you and for them; come not near to Al-Fawâhish (shameful sins, illegal sexual intercourse, etc.) whether committed openly or secretly, and kill not anyone whom Allâh has forbidden, except for a just cause (according to Islâmic law). This He has commanded you that you may understand.
Muslim :: Book 1 : Hadith 371
Yazid al-Faqir said: This view of the Khwarij (i. e. those who commit major sins and would be eternally doomed to Hell)
shabeerhassan0 says
KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE PROHIBITED:
49: 6. O you who believe! If a rebellious evil person comes to you with news, verify it, lest you harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful to what you have done.
17:33. and do not kill anyone which Allah has forbidden, except for a just cause. And whoever is killed (intentionally with hostility and oppression and not by mistake), We have given his heir the authority [(to demand Qisâs, Law of Equality in punishment or to forgive, or to take Diya (blood money)]. But let him not exceed limits in the matter of taking life (i.e he should not kill except the killer only). Verily, he is helped (by the Islamic law).
Malik :: Book 21 : Hadith 21.3.10
Do not kill women or children or an aged, weak person,Do not cut down fruit-bearing trees.Do not destroy an inhabited place. Do not slaughter sheep or camels except for food. Do not burn bees and do not scatter them. Do not steal from the booty,
Dawud :: Book 14 : Hadith 2763
Narrated AbuHurayrah:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Faith prevented assassination. A believer should not assassinate.
Dawud :: Book 35 : Hadith 4244
Narrated Sa’d ibn AbuWaqqas:
I asked: Apostle of Allah! tell me if someone enters my house and extends his hands to kill me (what should I do?) The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) replied: Be like the two sons of Adam. The narrator Yazid (ibn Khalid) then recited the verse: “If thou dost stretch they hand against me to slay me.”
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 93 :: Hadith 611,623
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 10,12,21
KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE IS A SYMBOL OF IGNORANCE [WEAKENS OF RELIGIOUS KNOWLEDGE]:
Muslim :: Book 34 : Hadith 6458
Abu Huraira reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: (When) the time would draw close to the Last Hour, knowledge would be snatched away, turmoil would be rampant, miserliness would be put (in the hearts of the people) and therewould be much bloodshed. They said: What is al-harj? Thereupon he said: It is bloodshed.
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 88 :: Hadith 185
Narrated Abu Musa:
The Prophet said, “Near the establishment of the Hour there will be days during which (religious) knowledge will be taken away (vanish) and general ignorance will spread, and there will be Al-Harj in abundance, and Al-Harj means killing.”
Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 3 :: Hadith 85
Narrated Abu Huraira:
The Prophet said, “(Religious) knowledge will be taken away (by the death of religious scholars) ignorance (in religion) and afflictions will appear; and Harj will increase.” It was asked, “What is Harj, O Allah’s Apostle?” He replied by beckoning with his hand indicating “killing.”
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 88 :: Hadith 183
Narrated Anas:
Allah’s Apostle said, “From among the portents of the Hour are (the following):
1. Religious knowledge will be taken away (by the death of Religious learned men).
2. (Religious) ignorance will prevail.
3. Drinking of Alcoholic drinks (will be very common).
4. There will be prevalence of open illegal sexual intercourse.
Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 3 :: Hadith 80
Muslim :: Book 41 : Hadith 6903
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 88 :: Hadith 184,187,237
Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 3 :: Hadith 85
PROHIBIT KILLING NON MUSLIM WITH PEACE AGREEMENT:
8: 72. Verily, those who believed, and emigrated and strove hard and fought with their property and their lives in the Cause of Allah as well as those who gave (them) asylum and help, – these are (all) allies to one another. And as to those who believed but did not emigrate (to you O Muhammad SAW), you owe no duty of protection to them until they emigrate, but if they seek your help in religion, it is your duty to help them except against a people with whom you have a treaty of mutual alliance, and Allah is the All-Seer of what you do.
9: 4. Except those of the Mushrikûn with whom you have a treaty, and who have not subsequently failed you in aught, nor have supported anyone against you. So fulfill their treaty to them to the end of their term. Surely Allah loves Al- Mattaqûn
4: 90. Except those who join a group, between you and whom there is a treaty (of peace), or those who approach you with their breasts restraining from fighting you as well as fighting their own people. Had Allah willed, indeed He would have given them power over you, and they would have fought you. So if they withdraw from you, and fight not against you, and offer you peace, then Allah has opened no way for you against them.
91. You will find others that wish to have security from you and security from their people. Every time they are sent back to temptation, they yield thereto. If they withdraw not from you, nor offer you peace, nor restrain their hands, take (hold) of them and kill them wherever you find them. In their case, We have provided you with a clear warrant against them.
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 49
Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Amr:
The Prophet said, “Whoever killed a Mu’ahid (a person who is granted the pledge of protection by the Muslims) shall not smell the fragrance of Paradise though its fragrance can be smelt at a distance of forty years (of traveling).”
Jay Boo says
Shabby Hassan
Point you eyes toward the floor
Bow your head with well-deserved SHAME at Islam’s path of disgrace.
No honest person can still deny that Islam follows a twisted path strait to hell.
Even Muhammad had a little bit of shame.
Muhammad claimed that he did not know if he would go to Paradise or Hell.
He knew.
Jeremiah says
By their fruits will you know them. It is deceptive to quote the Islamic references without the usual explanations of abrogation, etc. and by omission.
Jim says
According to the teachings of mohammed: Only Moslem are innocent.
shabeerhassan0 says
OPPRESSION AGAINST INNOCENT PEOPLE PROHIBITED:
7: 33. Say, “My Lord has only forbidden immoralities – what is apparent
of them and what is concealed – and sin, and oppression
Without right, and that you associate with Allah that for which
He has not sent down authority, and that you say about Allah that which you do not know.”
Muslim :: Book 32 : Hadith 6246
Abu Dharr reported Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying that Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, said: My servants, I have made oppression unlawful for Me and unlawful for you, so do not commit oppression against one another. My servants, all of you are liable to err except one whom I guide on the right path, so seek right guidance from Me so that I should direct you to the right path………
Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 629
Narrated Abu Huraira:
Allah’s Apostle said, “Whoever has oppressed another person concerning his reputation or anything else, he should beg him to forgive him before the Day of Resurrection when there will be no money (to compensate for wrong deeds), but if he has good deeds, those good deeds will be taken from him according to his oppression which he has done, and if he has no good deeds, the sins of the oppressed person will be loaded on him.”
Bukhari :: Book 3 :: Volume 43 :: Hadith 627
Narrated Ibn ‘Umar:
The Prophet said, “Oppression will be a darkness on the Day of Resurrection.”
PUBLIC PEOPLE(MUSLIM/NON MUSLIM) BLOOD & PROPERTIES, WERE HONORS AND PROTECTED/SACRED LIKE MECCA:
4: 148. Allah does not like that the evil should be uttered in public except by him who has been wronged. And Allah is Ever All Hearer, All Knower.
17: 70. And indeed We have honoured the Children of Adam, and We have carried them on land and sea, and have provided them with At-Taiyibât (lawful good things), and have preferred them above many of those whom We have created with a marked preference.
Bukhari :: Book 1 :: Volume 3 :: Hadith 67,105
Narrated Abu Bakra:
The Prophet said. No doubt your blood, property, the sub-narrator Muhammad thought that Abu Bakra had also mentioned and your honor (chastity), are sacred to one another as is the sanctity of this day of yours in this month of yours. It is incumbent on those who are present to inform those who are absent.” (Muhammad the Subnarrator used to say, “Allah’s Apostle told the truth.”) The Prophet repeated twice: “No doubt! Haven’t I conveyed Allah’s message to you.
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 88 :: Hadith 199
Bukhari :: Book 8 :: Volume 81 :: Hadith 776
PROTECTION OF NON MUSLIM ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MUSLIM:
9: 6. And if anyone of the Mushrikûn (polytheists, idolaters, pagans, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) seeks your protection then grant him protection, so that he may hear the Word of Allah (the Qur’ân), and then escort him to where he can be secure, that is because they are men who know not.
7. How can there be a covenant with Allah and with His Messenger for the Mushrikûn (polytheists, idolaters, pagans, disbelievers in the Oneness of Allah) except those with whom you made a covenant near Al-Masjid-al-Harâm (at Makah)? So long, as they are true to you, stand you true to them. Verily, Allah loves Al-Muttaqûn
Dawud :: Book 19 : Hadith 2955
Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab:
A son of Adi ibn Adi al-Kindi said that Umar ibn AbdulAziz wrote (to his governors): If anyone asks about the places where spoils (fay’) should be spent, that should be done in accordance with the decision made by Umar ibn al-Khattab (Allah be pleased with him). The believers considered him to be just, according to the saying of the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him): Allah has placed truth upon Umar’s tongue and heart. He fixed stipends for Muslims, and provided protection for the people of other religions by levying jizyah (poll-tax) on them, deducting no fifth from it, nor taking it as booty.
Bukhari :: Book 4 :: Volume 52 :: Hadith 287
Narrated ‘Amr bin Maimun:
Umar (after he was stabbed), instructed (his would-be-successor) saying, “I urge him (i.e. the new Caliph) to take care of those non-Muslims who are under the protection of Allah and His Apostle in that he should observe the convention agreed upon with them, and fight on their behalf (to secure their safety) and he should not over-tax them beyond their capability
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Jay Boo says
Wow!
A lot of words to distract from the murder of innocent children.
Oh what a twisted path Muslims walk as they practice to deceive,
Desert spirits spoke in twisted verse, a dance of words to recite, to recite.
Medina’s false prophet this rehearsed in a dark cave near Mecca veiled by night.
But, the angel Gabriel saw his descent, and said “Pawn of Satan turn, repent, repent.”
Muhammad’s attempts to partner with Allah were dredged up from the lowest pit of his vanity.
Islam’s infected creed was fertilized by a sociopath’s made-up dream.
Bloodied hands are now washed before prayers that incite as hate speech to recite, to recite.
Whenever, false humility makes a hajj to Satan’s curse,
Islam’s dead Serpent crawls out from his stockpile of vile, veiled verse.
Jay Boo says
in reply to shabeerhassan0
K. says
Yes, be afraid. Be very afraid.
Sarita says
Until they are sent back to whatever Muslim hellhole they came from, Europe, the U.S., Israel, and the rest of the Western nations will not be safe from this cult of horror and violence.
As for the constant refrain from Muslims that they are afraid of Islamophobia, that they are not the terrorists, and that they are nice people, I say this:
The ones wearing the bomb belts are not many. However, the rest are in agreement with the bomb belt wearer to one degree or another.
I’ve seen this time and time again. The most recent is a Muslimwhose parents moved here, his father has a nice job here, he goes to college, looks nice, behaves nicely, and does not wear a bomb belt, However, don’t ask him about the Middle East because his views, even though he was born here, are as unassimilated as those of a bomb belt wearer: the West did this, the West is that, the West is corrupt, etc. etc etc. And my question is, if that’s what he says in front of non-Muslims, a clear indication that he has no love and no allegiance for his host country, imagine what he says TO Muslims. And does he log on to terrorist websites? Does he e-mail pro-terrorist groups? Does he donate to finance terrorists? What exactly is he doing to move forth the terrorizing of the planet by Islam?
I believe that’s how the Muslims living outside of their own countries think and how they are. There are exceptions – Ayaan Hirsi Ali, for example, but she’s no longer Islamic.
epistemology says
Same old story, muzzies are always the victims. They should welcome the annihilation of extremists, but surreptitiously they admire them, those who brought shock, fear and bloodshed to the infidels in the capital of European culture.
More Ham Ed says
Oh, you mean the headline wasn’t “muslims (lowercase be upon them) in France turn-in radicals among them” or “muslims (lowercase be upon them) in France re-write the unholy ko ‘ran” or “muslims (lowercase be upon them) in France petition to reform islam.” Keep your islamic poison in your islamic disaster-area “country” where you came from.
Nora says
IF they are afraid of reprisal then can go to their halal countries and live in peace.
abad says
Europe is not the best place for Muslims to be.
They obviously hate Europe so why go there.
Wouldn’t they be much happier at home in the Middle East?
BTW no such thing as a “French Muslim.”
steve says
Everywhere i go the typical reactions i receive from islamists (can’t tell who is so-called moderate or not) are unfriendly, antisocial, self-indulgent and snobbish with their self-righteous segregating cliques that constantly engage in judgment against the West (though they make good use of our technology and welfare) and how we are so corrupt and intolerant (but don’t mind using our laws against us if there’s a payday involved). This is an ongoing daily event while they claim to be a religion of peace but their garbage continues to smell daily. I wonder why they just don’t put it out and get rid of it. I mean learn to get along with other people so we can all breathe.
Its almost like islamists are acting like insects that have evolved to be toxic to predators for survival. The only problem in that thinking is that people are not insects and as people that profess to sharing a world we need to get along. The last i’ve checked is islamists are acting like predators but they are the ones who are evolved as toxic. Perhaps one way non-islamists can evolve, if you will, is for the West to conceal carry as a toxic offset to terrorism that will enhance our survival against the terrorists.
Sadly, islamism has a poor prognosis of ever being compatible with the West unless beaten back by force because their jihad and sharia dictates without choice making non-islamists subservient in every way. Consider the antithesis of this insanity if the United States people were driven by our declared law and mixed it with Christianity to take over, for example, saudia arabia and kill the people who wouldn’t convert to our religion. You would then be doing the same as islamism is attempting to do around the world.
This is an argument for survival and people fighting back especially since the enemy leaves us no choice and when countries find the enemy in their midst they must get rid of them. If it means suspending fairy tale beliefs about Christianity and other religions of the West temporarily, then you either have to be comfortable with that revolutionary concept or else give up and kiss the camel.
Lord Wrath says
Definition: A Radical Muslim wants to cut your head off…
A Moderate Muslim wants a Radical Muslim to cut your head off…
TheBuffster says
This is off-topic for this thread, but a Facebook friend posted an article that I think many JihadWatchers will find of interest. “Fundamentalism Trumps Moderation: That’s Islam’s Problem”
http://www.thesavvystreet.com/fundamentalism-trumps-moderation-that-is-islams-problem/
rabrooks says
Of course they fear “reprisals”! It always seems that when mudslimes act out, it is always because something was done to them. That’s how they live! They are telling us that what they would do…
Doug says
Muzzies WORLDWIDE should fear reprisals, should fear being murdered in their sleep!!!
Villan says
What a lovely fellow you are. You sound just like ISIS with that rhetoric.
Jim Horn says
Ultimately, it will come down to us or them in this conflict of civilizations.
Do you prefer poverty, ignorance, fear, disease, or do yu prefer liberty and freedom?
Tom W Harris says
The French chickens – their oppression of the indigenous Muslims – have come home to roost. Their only salvation is a two-state solution, haw haw haw.
Dee says
Waa waa i cant get my own way waaa waaa i will throw my dummy out of the pram if you dont do everything we say waaa waaa. I will tell my dad to behead you waa waaa he will come and mess you up waaa waaa i need attention 24/7 waa waa if i dont get what i want my dad will blow you up waa waaa waaa waaaaaaàa.
Oh for goodness sake you moved to western countries so mix with people, laugh, watch a disney film, laugh at yourselves, lighten up, go do a walk for cancer research, smile at people, help a stranger once a week….. ANYTHING good. But please stop your noise and attention seeking its sooo very, very old and ugly.