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Mali: Muslims screaming “Allahu akbar” take hostages, free those who can recite Qur’an

Nov 20, 2015 7:53 am By Robert Spencer

We have seen this before on several occasions in Kenya. In September 2013 at Nairobi’s Westgate Mall, Muslims murdered people who couldn’t answer questions about Islam. In June 2014, Muslims murdered people who could not pass an Islam quiz. In November 2014, Muslims murdered 28 non-Muslims who couldn’t recite Qur’an verses. In April 2015, Muslims screaming “Allahu akbar” stormed Garissa University College, and only shot those who couldn’t recite Qur’an.

Now we see it in Mali. And this is coming to the U.S.

Mali hotel siege

“Gunmen attack luxury hotel in Mali capital, 170 taken hostage,” by Tiemoko Diallo, Reuters, November 20, 2015 (thanks to all who sent this in):

BAMAKO (Reuters) – Islamist gunmen stormed a luxury hotel packed with foreigners in Mali’s capital Bamako on Friday, taking 170 hostages in a former French colony that has been battling rebels allied with al Qaeda for several years.

A senior security source said some of the hostages had been freed after being made to recite verses from the Koran. The French newspaper Le Monde quoted the Malian security ministry as saying at least three hostages had been killed.

The raid on the Radisson Blu hotel, which lies just west of the city center near government ministries and diplomatic offices in the former French colony, comes a week after Islamic State militants killed 129 people in Paris.

The identity of the Bamako gunmen, or the group to which they belong, is not known.

Northern Mali was occupied by Islamist fighters, some with links to al Qaeda, for most of 2012. They were driven out by a French-led military operation, but sporadic violence has continued in Mali’s central belt on the southern reaches of the Sahara, and in Bamako.

The security source said as many as 10 gunmen had stormed the building, firing shots and shouting “Allahu Akbar”, or “God is great” in Arabic. The hotel’s head of security said two private security guards had been injured in the early stages of the attack, which began at 7 a.m. (0200 ET)….

In the wake of last week’s Paris attacks, an Islamic State militant in Syria told Reuters the organization viewed France’s military intervention in Mali as another reason to attack France and French interests.

“This is just the beginning. We also haven’t forgotten what happened in Mali,” said the non-Syrian fighter, who was contacted online by Reuters.

“The bitterness from Mali, the arrogance of the French, will not be forgotten at all.”

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  1. Diganta Bhattacharya says

    Nov 20, 2015 at 8:10 am

    Well, the attacks are happening than one can report them, apparently: I was skimming through jihadwatch when my papa called me to witness another attack, it wasn’t still on jihadwatch!
    Funny story is what I’m going to share, though. BBC showed live discussion with a…Mahmood, a counter-terrorism official located in London. Take a listen to his theory: the attackers in Paris were under the influence of drugs and ‘hallucinogenics’, the woman with the suicide-vest was completely ‘westernized’ with boyfriends and drinking habits. he insisted that they were not properly ‘islamic’ to begin with; that they were under too much western influence to think what ‘real islam’ would have them do, and therefore they did what they did. What do you guys think of that, eh?

    • Diganta Bhattacharya says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 8:11 am

      The first sentence of my initial comment lacked a ‘faster’ in between ‘happening’ and ‘than’. Sorry!

    • Jon says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 8:24 am

      Regardless of what they were on they were performing acts that are encouraged throughout the Quran and Hadiths/

      • dlbrand says

        Nov 20, 2015 at 4:22 pm

        Jon said: “Regardless of what they were on they were performing acts that are encouraged throughout the Quran and Hadiths.”

        Indeed. Racing for Allah’s pleasures.

        Once more good Muslims living by the book:

        “….so race each other to the good [by hastening to acts of obedience and hoping for their acceptance].” (al-Baqara: 148)

        “So compete against each other in doing good [and race to it]. (al-Ma’ida: 48)

        “If you love Allah, then follow me and Allah will love you [and reward you] and forgive you for your wrong actions. Allah is Ever-Forgiving, [forgiving those who follow the Prophet for anything they did before that], Most Merciful.” (Al ‘Imran:31.)

        Say [to them], “Obey Allah and the Messenger [regarding the tawid He commanded you to implement].” (Ibid, Vs. 32.)

        (Tafsir Al-Jalalayn, Jalalu’ D-Din Muhammad Ibn Ahmad Al-Mahalli and Jalalu’ D-Din as-Suyuti, Aisha Bewley’s Translation , Dar Al Taqwa Ltd. London, 2007. [Exegesis of text is that within brackets])

        “tawid,” also rendered as tauhid, translated means, “Islamic Monotheism,” as in “Oneness of the Lordship of Allah,” as in “the doctrine of Divine Unity.” (Glossary, Sahih Al-Bukhari, Translated by: Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, Darussalam, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, 1997, Vol. 9; Glossary, Tafsir al-Jalalayn respectively.)

        Included in that doctrine of unity is, “the meaning of La ilaha illallah (none has the right to be worshipped but Allah).” And that “it is also essential to follow Allah’s Messenger, Muhammad.” (Ibid, al-Bakhari.)

        As the revered men of wisdom in Islam and scholars therefrom provide, “‘This is included in the meaning, “I testify that Muhammad is Allah’s Messenger,” and this means, “None has the right to be followed after Allah’s Book (the Qur’an), but Allah’s Messenger.’”” (Ibid, Glossary Sahih al-Bakhari.)

        As provided in the above-cited verse: “Say (O Muhammad to mankind), ‘If you (really) love Allah then follow me [i.e. accept Islamic Monotheism, follow the Qur’an and the Sunna (legal ways of the Prophet ) ] Allah will love you and forgive you of your sins.’” (3:31, Ibid, expounding on “tauhid.”)

        That there, the tawhid spoken to in vs. 32: “Say [to them], “Obey Allah and the Messenger [regarding the tawid He commanded you to implement].” (al-Jalalayn, 3: 32.)

        That there—categorical obedience and adherence to the guidance of Qur’an and Sunnah—the tawid Allah “commanded” believers to “implement.”

        As clarified in “And whatsoever the Messenger (Muhammad) gives you, take it, and whatsoever he forbids you, abstain (from it).” (Vs. 59:7; Ibid, al-Bukhari.)

        Therefore, in obedience to that, “Race each other to forgiveness from your Lord.” (al-Hadid: 21, Tafsir al-Jalalayn.)

        Therefore, in obedience to that, regard the guidance and counsel of “Allah and his Messenger,” in their providing, “”Those who disagree [and] oppose Allah and His Messenger will be subdued and overcome as those before them were subdued and overcome [when they opposed their Messengers before]….The unbelievers will have a humiliating punishment.” (Ibid, al-Mujadila: 5.)

        Therefore, this counsel and guidance from “Allah and his Messenger”: “ ‘and know that you cannot thwart Allah –[escape His punishment]—and that Allah will humiliate the unbelievers [in this world by killing and in the Next by the fire].’ ” (Ibid, at-Tawba: 2.)

        Therefore, this command: “ ‘Give the unbelievers the news of a painful punishment [–referring to killing and capture in this world and the Fire in the Next World].’” (Ibid, vs. 3.)

        Therefore this counsel and command: “Fight them! Allah will punish them [by killing them] at your hands, and disgrace them [by capture and defeat] and help you against them, and heal the hearts of those who believe.” (Ibid. vs. 14.)

        Hence, this guidance:

        “…the People of the Book …. They thought that their fortresses would protect them from [the punishment of] Allah. Then [the command and punishment of] Allah came upon them from whence they least expected it [–from the believers, which possibility had not occurred to them–] and cast terror into their hearts [by killing …]….by the hands of the believers. People of insight, take note!”

        (Ibid, al-Hashr: 2. )

        Therefore this guidance:

        “You who believe, shall I direct you to a transaction which will save [(read as tunjikum and tunajjikum)] you from a painful punishment? (Ibid, as-Saff: 10.)

        It is to [continue to] believe in Allah and His Messenger and to do jihad in the Way of Allah with your wealth and your selves. That is better for you if you only knew, [and you should do it]. (Vs. 11.)

        [If you do so], He will forgive you your wrong actions and admit you into Gardens with rivers flowing under them, and fine dwellings in the Gardens of Eden. That is the Great Victory. (vs. 12)

        Therefore, the follow guidance: “They shall be given the choicest sealed wine to drink …. Whose seal is musk [–the dregs of his drink give off the fragrance of musk]—let people with aspiration aspire to that –[ race one another to obey Allah–]….”

        (al-Mutaffifin: 25, 26; Tafsir Al-Jalalayn, Jalalu’ D-Din Muhammad Ibn Ahmad Al-Mahalli and Jalalu’ D-Din as-Suyuti, Aisha Bewley’s Translation , Dar Al Taqwa Ltd. London, 2007. [Exegesis of text is that within brackets])

        Therefore, all who regard as sacred that in “the Book,” stand in defense of those who live, kill, and die obeying Qur’an and Sunnah.

        • dajjal says

          Nov 20, 2015 at 9:19 pm

          “do deeds of righteousness” 2.277, 4.57, 4.122, 10.9. What are deeds of righteousness? “nor they take any step to raise the anger of disbelievers nor inflict any injury upon an enemy but is written to their credit as a deed of righteousness.” 9.120

          Acts of terrorism are righteous good deeds according to the Koran. Death & damnation be upon those who believe it and do it.

        • gravenimage says

          Nov 20, 2015 at 10:05 pm

          You’re right–“deeds of righteousness” in Islam are bloody acts of savagery and barbarism.

        • dlbrand says

          Nov 20, 2015 at 10:10 pm

          dajjal said: ….”Acts of terrorism are righteous good deeds according to the Koran.”.

          Absolutely–they are obedience to “Allah and His Messenger.”

        • Dr. Divinity says

          Nov 21, 2015 at 2:39 pm

          BIG BIG BIG difference between islam and Christianity when it comes to the reward of entrance into heaven…..If you are a real born again Christians you are assured of a place in n heaven but a Muslim can never be assured of that. Unless. They are killed in jihad…..Of course we who have not lost our sanity, know that they will live in a burning,perpetual, hell No immediate paradise . And so will all Muslims who do not repent and place their belief in Jesus the Christ. What a wake up call they will have but too late. after the last day. SHEEP ON THE RIGHT, GOAT’S ON THE LEFT !!!

    • Mike says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 8:27 am

      Throughout history ‘terrorist’ have hyped themselves up with drugs before committing heinous acts before going on a killing spree so if these Paris killers were drugged up, it wouldn’t surprise me. Some people do all manner of barbaric acts whilst drunk or drugged but it seems that only Islam has well organized groups of terrorists around the world that carry out these premeditated acts.

      There are the odd lone wolf killers who have similarly gone on a killing spree on campus where some were Muslim and some were not. In both cases they had serious mental issues whether it be an unhealthy attitude to fire arms or Islam and used that obsession to justify their insane acts of terror.

      The bottom line is those that kill due to mental issues need to have the trigger and means taken away from them to carry out those acts. Remove access to guns for mentally disturbed people would be useful as well as remove the ’cause or trigger’ such as the ‘nasty parts of Islam’.

      • Jon says

        Nov 20, 2015 at 8:38 am

        2 weeks ago a Saudi “Prince” was caught trying to smuggle 2 tonnes of captagon pills

    • RichardL says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 8:40 am

      al BeBeCeerah true to form.

      One hates to think what true Muslims would have done.

      It is Friday, the day they worship their killer-god

    • Jack Diamond says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 10:03 am

      War is deceit. Muhammad said that. Jihad covers a multitude of sins, soldiers of Allah in enemy territory (like any Muslims in kaffir lands) have sanction from the Qur’an to “guard” themselves. As is well known, these doctrines of taqiyya and muda’rat can sanction lying, disseminating, taking false oaths, even denying Islam if required (with your mouth, not in your hating heart) let alone things like drinking and carousing to “blend in” or making use of kaffir wealth or kaffir women (booty, spoils of war), rewards from Allah. Daruna allows doing something otherwise haram, forbidden. Maruna is suspension of shari’a to appear moderate and non-threatening. These are established doctrines stemming from the very first hijra migration that eventually conquered Yathrib/Medina. So appearances can be deceiving to say the least.

      Jihadis in the West are getting good at going black. Witness the ease with which they move from Syria to Belgium to France. They also have embedded Muslim communities in the West to hide in (and who hide them). As to the woman, depends on the timeline whether she was a lapsed Muslima who became pious shortly before the attack, whether her behavior was a cover, or whether she was forced by the family to atone for her “sins” by becoming a shaheed. The imperatives of Jihad come from core Islamic teachings not from being lured away from them by “western influence.”

      However, the talking heads in the media will never connect the dots, will never allow the discussion of the contents of the Qur’an and Sunnah, the deeds of Muhammad, the consensus of the scholars, the manuals of Islamic law, or the evidence from 1400 years of Islamic history, when these atrocities occur again and again in the name of exactly these things. Rather, we get to hear about the eccentric beliefs of radical-Islamic-terrorist-extremists or “Radical Jihadists” so to keep Islam and Muslims protected and safe from bad company and protect us from charges of bigot and hater (the scarlet letter). From suggesting maybe the problem lies with Islam in itself. So, we will welcome “Syrians” and other Muslims to our shores and everything should be fine as long as we can isolate those ISIS-mutant flies in the peaceful tolerant much put upon Muslim ointment.

    • Shane says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 10:19 am

      It appears that the willfully blind are leading the fight against Islamic terrorism. When Muslims are planning a terrorist attack, they are told to blend in and are allowed to drink and fornicate. They are devout Muslims killing in the name of Allah, something few liberals are willing to admit. Hillary is just as willfully blind about Islamic jihad as Obama is.

      • mortimer says

        Nov 20, 2015 at 10:41 am

        Wilfully blind.

      • Godwin says

        Nov 20, 2015 at 10:43 am

        The Hillary foundation has received millions in donations from Saudi n the Gulf states. That is why she always talks in favor of Muslims in any situations..

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 10:03 pm

      More obfuscation and whitewash over the cause of Jihad. I hadn’t heard this specific apologia, Diganta, but it does not surprise me.

      And you are right–there is too much Muslim savagery for even the indefatigable Robert Spencer to keep up with.

  2. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Nov 20, 2015 at 8:10 am

    Seeing this on Fox RINO upon getting up this morning, I though, “Oh, these poor news entertainers! On this one they’ve got to tiptoe around the Holy Ko-Ran, to keep it disconnected from the violence, and it’s right in the middle of it.” Kudos to the Fox RINO announcers. They reported the facts of this latest mass murder episode, including the Holy Ko-Ran part, and left unmentioned any linkage between The Book and the mass murders. The foreign affairs expert, RT What’s-her-name, noted that there was an Al Qaeda cell in Mali, and that the country used to be a colony of France, and that France intervened there a couple of years ago, so that’s it, there’s your motive. No mention of the Holy Ko-Ran.

    ***

    Congrats to our next Prez Hillary. She invented yesterday a new term where I thought that’d be impossible: Radical Jihadism. So, Ms. President, can you give us an example of *moderate* Jihadism? She was at the Council of Foreign Affairs, which is exceedingly careful when it comes to Moslems, so that question was not asked. Nor, when she called for a UN commission to solve the problem of spreading Radical Jihadism, was it asked what good that would do given that the UN is a Moslem front organization. Further, she was not asked about her signing on to the draft UN resolution for member countries to make it a felony crime to criticize a religion, and how that might affect free speech. Overall, a good day in the Hildabeast campaign.

    • Jon says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 8:27 am

      FOX is something like 50% owned by the Saudi’s so what do you expect? The media and the lemmings that subscribe to their nonsense will break Islam into the moderate and extremist sects which dont exist.. Ask any of them if theyve read the Quran or Hadith, that is the only Islam that we have on the planet. Nevermind the murderous Muslims either, the less killy-killy stabby-stabby ones are generally crap people as well.

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        Nov 20, 2015 at 10:36 am

        My recollection is that Prince Alaweed bought about 15% of News Corp several yrs ago. Not that it matters, if there was zero Moslem ownership of Fox RINO, they’d be doing the very same pro-Islam Kaubuki they are now. Marketing. Image is important, far more important than factual reality.

        • Jack Diamond says

          Nov 21, 2015 at 3:27 am

          As I recall it, Alaweed sold off most of his stock in News Corp. (now !%) this year while News Corp separated itself from Fox in 2013. Murdoch, however, is heavily invested in
          an Alaweed TV station called Al Risala (“the Islamic Message”) through its media parent, Rotana. Al Risala broadcasts nonstop Muslim Brotherhood and jihadist propaganda and includes al Qaeda alumnus (and Human Abedin’s family patron) Abdullah Omar Naseef
          on its board.

        • Jack Diamond says

          Nov 21, 2015 at 3:29 am

          Huma Abedin, not Human Abedin. She becomes Human Abedin when she apostatizes.

  3. Jon says

    Nov 20, 2015 at 8:18 am

    Allahu Akbar does not mean “God is great” The arabic term for God is il or illa from the Hebrew El or Ella… Allah is a name, it does not mean God. Please correct yourself in future posts. Allah was the name given to the biggest stone of many that sat on the Kabbah… not joking

    • Jon says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 8:21 am

      Akbar also does not mean “great”. It means greater, bigger, older, etc… When Allahu Akbar was first used it was in mockery of the Hebrew God ‘Yahowah’ right before Mohammad attacked a village of unarmed Hebrew farmers

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        Nov 20, 2015 at 9:03 am

        Which banu was that? I’d like to know if you’ve got a source reference. As a big fan of Moslemism, that kinda thing is good stuff, like a Shoeless Joe Jackson baseball card.

      • Jay Boo says

        Nov 20, 2015 at 9:08 am

        Jon your comment (” Please correct yourself in future posts.”) appears to directed at Robert Spencer.
        Did you not notice that Robert is quoting someone else here?

        • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

          Nov 20, 2015 at 10:42 am

          And the “u” modifies the word to mean superlative. Allah Akbar = God is great. Allahu = God is greater, as in our God is greater than your God. This distinction is of course lost on the news entertainment crowd, which is the least of their problems with it comes to Islam. Andrew McCarthy went of the “u” part and its great import in an essay at NRO earlier this week.

    • RichardL says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 8:27 am

      that also gets to me, Jon. Even Arabic-speaking Christians don’t understand that, even if you tell them to explain the shahada to them. ā ʾilāha ʾillā-llāh Either ilah means god and then allah means the moon god that the Mohammedans worship or it doesn’t make sense at all. Christians refer to God in Arabic also as allah. Drives me nuts.

      Plus akbar means “greater” not great. Allah is greater than the other gods, is what the moon god worshippers scream.

      Most Christian denomination confuse people more by saying that our God is the same god that the Mohammedans worship.

      • Jon says

        Nov 20, 2015 at 8:34 am

        Plagiarized and misconstrued Talmud verses are where Mo got all of his info regarding the “Abrahamic religions” and what he used to gain credibility… After he was laughed out of town he came back and killed everyone who had laughed at him for being a moron.

        I was watching interviews from Paris of French Muslims pulling out their cellphones to find the Quran verse that says “Anyone who kills is asif they killed the entire world” …. if you read the next verse Mo goes onto say that if anyone is saying stuff like this then kill them… people just dont know so these scum can get away with these lies…

        Like I said, read the verse before and after that and its Mohammad saying to kill anyone who expresses those sentiments…. those sentiments or that quote came from the Talmud btw so obviously the next words out of his mouth would be “Kill people who say that”

      • Raja says

        Nov 20, 2015 at 8:42 am

        Richard,

        The God of Bible and god of Koran are poles apart. In fact the attributes of Satan described by Jesus are exactly the same as that of god and his prophet of the Koran,( Lying and murdering from the beginning)

        If Christians think the God of Bible and god of Koran are the same then they re living in fools paradise just like the Jihadists/Jihad enablers.

        • Jon says

          Nov 20, 2015 at 8:44 am

          Try to find a Quran verse about Allah being in Heaven. He’s only ever in Hell torturing people

        • kay says

          Nov 20, 2015 at 1:20 pm

          Re: “If Christians think the God of Bible and god of Koran are the same then they re living in fools paradise just like the Jihadists/Jihad enablers.”
          ___________________________________

          TRUE.
          Importantly true.
          Canterbury Cathedral doesn’t get that. To them Koran is authentic revelation.
          Pope Francis same. He sees carpet pilots as “co-religionists.”

          Islam has many followers. But it is NOT one of “the world’s great religions.” Islam is a determined emphatic FALSIFICATION of the New Testament and a fierce enemy of the Jews.
          Islam FAILS as Abrahamic Religion 3.0. Period.

          These are key points which must be hammered home again and again in social media.

          One year ago I had absolutely no idea of these key points. Had been trying to ignore the Middle Eastern stuff altogether.

          Not to put too fine a point on it, but to me it is clear Canterbury Cathedral and the Vatican will suffer massively in coming years and decades due to these literally incredible blunders.

          There is an extremely strong case for Muhammad as definitely being an anti-Christ. Or THE Anti-Christ. I take that as being literally true on the basic level without going all metaphysical.

          The Anglicans and the Vatican people didn’t read Dr. Bill Warner. Big mistake.

          To repeat:
          An Historical Critique of Islam’s Beginnings – Jay Smith

        • Jeremiah says

          Nov 20, 2015 at 5:12 pm

          I agree. A year ago it also struck me that Islam is the anti-christ. It is the exact opposite of Love. Jesus is the exact opposite of Mohammad, the pedophile

    • Robert Spencer says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 9:39 am

      You should direct this criticism to Reuters, which actually made the false claim, as you can see from the attribution above.

      • Jon says

        Nov 20, 2015 at 7:39 pm

        My bad Robert, was speed reading. Telling them to clean up their act would be a fools errand though lol

    • ECAW says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 10:59 am

      Correct me if I’m wrong but I understood that illa means god or deity whereas Allah is the name of the Islamic god so Allahu akbar means Allah is greater with “than your god” implied.

      I remember years ago (before you risked losing your job by doing such a thing) talking to a Muslim workmate about his religion and was surprised that he always referred to “my god” or “my God”. I thought that sounded odd because a Christian would never refer to “my God” only “God”. It implies to me that Mohammed’s project was indeed to consolidate all celestial power in the hands of one of the competing gods, just as it was his ambition to consolidate all earthly power in the hands of one man.

  4. Jay Boo says

    Nov 20, 2015 at 9:14 am

    Arrest the so-called ‘refugees’ and free only those who can recite the Golden Rule.
    The others put on a one way flight to Muslim Saudi Arabia.

  5. worldcitizen1919 says

    Nov 20, 2015 at 9:26 am

    It doesn’t matter what they shout they don’t represent the Quran or Prophet Muhammad just like paedophile priests don’t represent the Bible and Christ when they rape children while ‘teaching them to pray’

    People can misuse power or knowledge or wealth but that doesn’t mean these things in themselves are intrinsically evil. A knife is neither good not bad but can be used wrongfully.

    Religion has been used to oppress and kill both by Muslims and Christians but that’s not what their Holy Books teach. Killing in the name of God throughout history is not new but the Holy Scriptures of no faith supports terrorism.

    The Quran does not support murder and the Bible says thou shalt not kill yet Muslims and Chrisitians have been killing each other for centuries. The Papal wars, the Inquisition etc etc Current day terrorism.

    People can be easily mislead by broad statements attached to a newspaper cut out but those who go deeper and investigate truth and reality properly know that it’s all hyped up prejudice meant to defame both the Quran and Prophet Muhammad.

    The misconceptions and lies spread to the west about Islam are only too readily swallowed by a population taught to see any other Prophet other than Christ as from the devil.

    Islam sprang from oppression of freedom of worship and callous killings and tortures of those who only wanted to have the freedom to worship the One God of their choice, a freedom which is enshrined in every western constitution and the UN Declaration of Human Rights.

    This freedom of Faith which has now become ours because at one time the Arabs fought and died for it is now being exalted in western corridors as a pinnacle of western democracy yet those who bravely withstood so much persecution for this noble principle are lumped with the murderous terrorists of today?

    I find that very unbecoming of so noble a race that has brought many wonderful things to the west including sciences and universities. A bunch of murderous thugs should not blind us to the great things Islam has done for civilisation unless our minds are poisoned with the same hate and prejudice the terrorists are infected with.

    Read history and you will find more than ample proof of these things. However, if ones position is to blame Islam for violence then both the Crusades and the Inquisition are proof that Christians have committed the same crimes in the name of God.

    Muhammad established an army to protect the innocent from being killed and oppressed. Christ would have done the same. There is no argument whatsoever claiming Islam is violent just because of a group of mad psychotic fanatics.

    So Muhammad should not have formed an army and allowed killers to wreak havoc on His followers day and night doing as they please as the terrorist of today do??

    Because those who are against the Quran forming a force to protect the innocent are saying that Muhammad should have just let them die and be sold into slavery yet here object in the strongest terms against terrorism and the mistreatment of the innocent.

    It was a far worse form of terrorism that Muhammad faced and He had no choice but to protect the innocent just like any civilised nation today would send bombers into Syria after France was attacked.

    When western nations are attacked by terrorists they go after them. That’s exactly what Muhammad did when, after 13 years of persecution he decided he couldn’t abandon the innocent any longer. He hoped that it wouldn’t come to war but he had no choice just like we today have no choice in fighting terrorism.

    But terrorism is not Islam but people using its name and facilities and Holy Book by cherry picking verses that were meant to protect AGAINST terrorism at that time not attack innocents now. They have interpreted the Quran’s ‘enemies’ to be the west. That is their interpretation and it’s wrong. But that is not what Islam is about.

    Islam is about unity, peace and protecting the innocent. These are fanatical psychopaths who have nothing to do with Islam and do not accept the entire Quran only the parts that speak of fighting. They take everything out of context. The Quran c,early forbids murder.

    • Sam S. Ara says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 10:57 am

      Yes, we see everyday that Islam is about “unity, peace, and protecting the innocent.” What a load of you-know-what. Furthermore, the “rub” comes in defining who, in the eyes of Islam, is “innocent” and who is not. Once you start assigning labels, all bets are off when it comes to dealing with the non-innocent, n’est ce pas?!

      Religion of peace love and unity….{vomiting and laughing simultaneously}

    • Myxlplik says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 11:44 am

      Mohammed committed genocide, was involved in sex slavery, chopped people up then threw the body pieces into a well, and advocated the murder of those who satirized him.

      In spite of that example some Muslims have humanity, not because of it. Nobody is mischaracterizing the Islam of Mohammed.

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        Nov 20, 2015 at 12:10 pm

        Mohammed committed genocide, was involved in sex slavery, chopped people up then threw the body pieces into a well, and advocated the murder of those who satirized him.

        By my reading of the hadith, and I could be wrong, is that he *contracted* the murder of Abu and Asma, and each was thereupon murdered while sleeping.

        On the meat chop throw into the well part, where is this in the Holy Scriptures? I axe that seriously; I’m a collector.

        • Myxlplik says

          Nov 20, 2015 at 3:33 pm

          I’m at work so I can’t do any research at the moment, but if memory serves correctly that was taken from an account of the Battle of Badr, where people who were killed were thrown into either a trench or a well. Apparently the leader of the town was too fat to fit an, and needed to be pared down a bit.

          I’ll look it up later.

        • Myxlplik says

          Nov 21, 2015 at 12:15 am

          Ah, there we go my friend.

          Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam, page 8

          https://books.google.com/books?id=_7RD2jwMU2wC&pg=PA8&lpg=PA8&dq=battle+of+badr+fat+man&source=bl&ots=Q44gXzv7UV&sig=ovqD1OsM9EWP8_gQ59UXXTt0MbI&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjMkr6o4KDJAhVGOogKHd5MCg4Q6AEIIDAD#v=onepage&q=battle%20of%20badr%20fat%20man&f=false

    • More Ham Ed says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 12:44 pm

      Daily whitewashing!

      Verified surveys and polls show that upwards of 400 million muslims (lowercase be upon them) around the world support the death penalty for leaving islam. How peaceful!

      27295 documented deadly ISLAMIC terror attacks since 9/11.

      http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

      Islam gives you pieces not peace!

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 1:14 pm

      worldcitizen1919
      Apparently you missed the nearby Jihad Watch article (-top-ten-quran-verses-to-understand-isis)
      ———————————
      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/the-top-ten-quran-verses-to-understand-isis-on-the-glazov-gang

    • jura says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 2:01 pm

      Taqiya.

    • VRWC member77 says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 9:00 pm

      @worldcitizen1919

      Your statement:

      — they don’t represent the Quran or Prophet Muhammad just like paedophile priests don’t represent the Bible and Christ when they rape children while ‘teaching them to pray’ —

      Why would you jump out at the start of your long winded divergent post with such a damning statement regarding Islam? Any priest involved with abusing children is thoroughly condemned by the Christian community when such a discovery is made. The teachings of Christ completely abhor such an abomination. This is quite the contrary with Islam where your filthy “prophet” (filth be upon him) raped a 9 year-old girl –according to your own Islamic teachings– and is held up as a beautiful pattern of conduct: Sura 33:21.

      That’s quite revolting.

  6. ricardus maximus says

    Nov 20, 2015 at 9:52 am

    Wow. A couple of years back and in a time when people couldn’t readily read the source documents of Islam or have almost real time translations of sermons said in languages other than English or see how the followers of the prophet conducted themselves post outrage dejur committed in the name of their religion …… or rather who and how many show-up to protest those outrages done in their name your post would merit line by line refutation, but sadly the content is quite dated.

  7. ICH says

    Nov 20, 2015 at 10:19 am

    worldcitizen1919 – what planet do u live on ?

    “The Quran does not support murder ”

    HOLY WOW !!!!

    I am literally dumber for having read your post.

  8. wtd says

    Nov 20, 2015 at 10:53 am

    Coincidence?
    Last Thursday, hours before the Paris terror attack, Obama declared ISIL contained. Questions were raised about the timing of that declaration wondering if it signaled IS/ISIS/ISIL/Daesh to pull the trigger.

    Yesterday, John Kerry also made a public declaration claiming MSNBC: al qaeda ‘neutralized’ again, this official declaration, made just hours before the terror attack in Mali this morning raises the same questions. Did Kerry’s declaration about ‘al qaeda being neutralized’ give the signal to the al qaeda terrorists in Mali to pull the trigger too?

    FWIW, the time stamp on the MSNBC video clip illustrates 4:19pm on a youtube sourced link which I viewed at 10:13 am ET on 11/20/2015, suggesting the MSNBC report is at least a day old.

    Is this pattern of official declarations about the strength of enemy combatants a simple coincidence or evidence of Obama and Kerry being played as dupes/puppets by Muslim Brotherhood advisors within their administration or, even worse, are they willingly complicit?

  9. Jeremiah says

    Nov 20, 2015 at 11:20 am

    We can prevent further attacks by raiding mosques, jailing Imams and identifying those who teach the Koran. Then we don’t need to respond, we don’t need to fight it and we don’t need to defeat it. There is no reason for people to continue to live in fear except for Political Correctness. There is no need to fight all muslims, only those who object to the closure of mosques. There is no need to kill on a large scale, only those who are willing to defend Islam. It is Islam and its teaching which is our enemy! All this talk about trying to find terrorists is nonsense. All this fear is misplaced. Only Political Correctness can kill us. No need to “flag” anybody on a terror watch list. Bring them all in for questioning. Just close the mosques! The mosques contain the terror entire network that we are looking for. No terror network exists outside the mosques, so why are we avoiding mosques?

    • dajjal says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 9:39 pm

      Terrorism is not a function of mosques, its a function of Believers. Eliminate them and there will be no terrorism unless MINOs become Believers as a result of some random stimulus such as being reminded of the forgotten obligation.

      It is necessary therefore for the Ummah al-Islamiyya to become extinct.

  10. Oliver says

    Nov 20, 2015 at 12:35 pm

    This post was about the Mali Hotel attack. Yet most of the comments were about extraneous -and immaterial-matters. The meaning of Allen’s candy store; Fox ownership, etc.

    —————————————————————————————————————————-

    As to Jeremiah–I answered this before ( and have seen it on other posts)– The od USSR did this. To Jewish synagogues and yeshivas (Jewish schools). All that this really accomplished- went underground. (One person commented–correctly- that the Jews were practicing their religion-not planning terror attacks; again that is true). The USSR also banned churches, perhaps with not quite so much effort. But they also just went underground.

    Banning mosques; imams; etc. will solve nothing– Imams will have a new title (or no title) and the Muslims will go underground.

    In my opinion ( expressed before)- the examples of Kuwait; Saudi Arabia and some or all of the Gulf states should be followed–periodic, unannounced raids on Mosques- any found with weapons- closed; imams arrested. I doubt that they get trials, just execurted

  11. O says

    Nov 20, 2015 at 12:36 pm

    last word is executed. Sorry for the typo

  12. R Cole says

    Nov 20, 2015 at 12:39 pm

    Of course this has NOTHING to do with Islam!!

    The gunmen only spared the Muslim hostages because of the Palestinian problem!!
    And they did not spare the Christians because of America it’s a Christian country. And so we must look at ourselves and change – that way the Muslims will not have reason to radicalize and attack!!

    Reality has been hijacked!!
    Reality has crash landed!

    Europe is going to need to secure its external borders.

    Attacking people is becoming casual for this lot.

  13. dumbledoresarmy says

    Nov 20, 2015 at 4:03 pm

    They freed those who could recite the Quran.
    In Arabic or in translations?

    O well, looks like Mr Spencer, Raymond Ibrahim, Mark Durie, and not a few others within the West, these days, are safe, so long as it’s any random verse that will do to satisfy the jihadi quiz-takers, rather than the shahada. I’m sure those gentlemen could probably rattle off any number of verses…and in the original Arabic, no less.

  14. ? says

    Nov 20, 2015 at 4:48 pm

    “Allahu Akbar” a Muslim phrase used by “non Muslims”… Strange how all these non Muslim Muslims have nothing to do with Islam when they go by the book–literally, and follow execution/punishment procedures to the letter–literally , and blow their tops–literally….

    This is the reaping 666

  15. dumbledoresarmy says

    Nov 20, 2015 at 5:19 pm

    This business of sorting out Infidels from Muslims by asking people to recite Quran verses, throws a whole new light on one of the clauses in the “Conditions of Omar”, the basis for all the hideously-oppressive ‘Rules For Dhimmis’ that were imposed on subjugated non-Muslims within an islamic state.

    It runs, in one translation – “We will not teach our children the Qur’an”.

    another translation – 

”We shall not teach the Qur’an to our children.”

    Now, in previous discussions of this ‘Pact’ or ‘Conditions’ of Omar that have taken place in this forum, people have usually focused on the fact that if you are not allowed to read the Quran, if you are not allowed to tell other Infidels what is in it, then you are handicapped…you don’t know the enemy’s book and can’t counter the Jihad. And of course, a bit further on, there’s this clause – “We shall not 
prevent any of our kin from entering Islam if they wish it. ” In other words: naive uninformed Infidels who convert to Islam, presumably after Muslims have told them flowery dawa lies, will be buying a pig in a poke. Those who haven’t checked out the Islamic belief system for themselves, by themselves, forming their own judgement, will be more likely to fall for Dawa.

    BUT

    This story from Mali shows us an additional reason why Muslims would want to make sure that non-Muslims *don’t* know what’s in the Quran.

    Ability to rattle off verses of the Quran – whether in Arabic or in translation? – functions as a ‘sorting’ device in situations like this where Muslim jihadis want to be able to quickly sort out Muslims (for sparing) and non-Muslims (for raping, robbing, KILLING).

    The Quran verses = identity badge/ ‘secret password’.

    If the Infidels know them as well, the ‘password’ function is vitiated.

    Hence the Pact/ Condtions of Omar forbidding non-Muslims from reading/ teaching the Quran to one another. If they don’t know what’s in it, they don’t have the password.

    • dajjal says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 9:35 pm

      After posting my comment, I saw yours. Well done. Surah Al-Fatiha is the shortest. Llets fire our legislators who can not pass the test.

  16. dajjal says

    Nov 20, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    In view of the litany of religious tests i included in this article, address your elected misleaders thusly: Morons, Idiots; Cretins: lend me yer ‘rhoids! Why does the pact of Omar proscribe teaching the Koran to our children??? If you can not answer correctly: “So Muslims can identify and kill them.”, then resign in disgrace and let an intelligent and rational person replace you.

    • dajjal says

      Nov 20, 2015 at 9:31 pm

      Damn typos! Disqus would allow edits… hint… hint…. supernumerary ‘i’. Thick finger syndromer.

  17. gravenimage says

    Nov 20, 2015 at 9:59 pm

    Mali: Muslims screaming “Allahu akbar” take hostages, free those who can recite Qur’an
    …………………………………

    In other words, they released the Muslims. We have, as noted, seen this over and over again.

    More:

    “This is just the beginning. We also haven’t forgotten what happened in Mali,” said the non-Syrian fighter, who was contacted online by Reuters.

    “The bitterness from Mali, the arrogance of the French, will not be forgotten at all.”
    …………………………………

    And what is this “bitterness” over? Why, resistance to Jihad. Anyone who dares resist Jihad and Shari’ah will receive more of the same.

    God, I hate Islam.

  18. TheBuffster says

    Nov 21, 2015 at 7:49 am

    It might be a good idea to at least learn the Shahada in Arabic.

    Whddaya think? 😉

  19. (Dr.) Sandy Kramer says

    Nov 21, 2015 at 9:58 am

    If quoting the Koran in English is Kosher, I might get a reprieve. At least, unlike Hillary and her ilk, I’ve read the damned book.

  20. Angemon says

    Nov 21, 2015 at 7:17 pm

    A senior security source said some of the hostages had been freed after being made to recite verses from the Koran.

    Hmmmmmm, what could have been their motive…?

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