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Muslim leader: ISIS “people from other religion wearing masks and defaming Islam”

Nov 30, 2015 11:11 am By Robert Spencer

Taking conspiracy paranoia and denial of reality to dizzying new heights.

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“ISIS not Muslim, people of other faith defaming Islam: Leader,” ANI, November 30, 2015 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

Agartala: ‘ISIS is not at all Muslims, rather these are people from other religion wearing masks and defaming Islam’, viewed Vice President of All India Muslim Majlis-e-Mushawarat H.R.A. Choudhury.

Speaking to ANI at the sideline of a convention Choudhury said, “I understand that these people (ISIS) are not Muslims at all. They are not Muslims and are from some other religion and wearing Muslim masks and doing all their activities.”

Choudhury, a senior advocate of Gauhati High Court and president of Samajwadi Party of Assam’s state committee, was one of the chief guests at the convention of Tripura State Jamiat Ulema-i-Hind in Agartala Sunday.

According to the senior Muslim leader, due to the destructive activities of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the entire Muslim community is affected globally and suspected to be involved or sympathiser of terrorist activities.

“Everyone is affected and questions are being raised (against Islam) due to the ISIS activities. Those who are doing all these in the name of the Koran and Allah are misusing the name of Koran and Allah. See no religion teaches all these ………. a real Muslim can never do all these things,” said Choudhury.

He expressed that in India’s northeast often the people of Islamic faith are often under doubt due to subversive activities conducted by intruders for neighbouring Bangladesh or even from Pakistan….

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  1. PrayerWarrior says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 11:37 am

    Just found this just now:
    http://www.mintpressnews.com/211624-2/211624/
    “Meet The Man Who Funds ISIS: Bilal Erdogan, The Son Of Turkey’s President”

    “Bilal Erdogan is one of the three equal shareholders of “BMZ Group Denizcilik “, a marine transportation corporation….Bilal Erdogan’s maritime companies own special wharfs in Beirut and Ceyhan ports that are transporting ISIS’ smuggled crude oil in Japan-bound oil tankers.

    Don’t know much about mintpressnews. or ZeroHedge.com. If true, it explains a lot about Turkey downing that Russian jet. Protecting his son’s ships?

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Nov 30, 2015 at 11:53 am

      If Prez Barack Hussein were serious about fighting ISIS, if, then there’d be tariffs put on Japanese exports to the U.S. until the situation were resolved. Oh, and Turkey would be summarily ejected from NATO, which is failing on both fronts, the Islam World Takeover Front and the Commie World Takeover Front.

      • Kerry says

        Dec 1, 2015 at 5:52 am

        You are spot on. They are Moslem, they act on the words from the Quran. The 5th column has arrived in Europe. The propaganda from MSM falls on deaf ears. We know their agenda, we must stop them!

    • PrayerWarrior says

      Nov 30, 2015 at 12:23 pm

      MintPress news was founded by Mnar Muhawesh, in 2012.
      (http://www.mintpressnews.com/author/mnarmuhawesh/)

      “Muhawesh is a Muslim who adopted the hijab in college in a nod to tradition and modesty. Although MintPress was inspired in part by Tahrir Square, Muhawesh indicates it’s the non-denominational aspects of that uprising — the OWS aspects — that guide MintPress. … “We’re very big on being part of a social movement worldwide,” she explains, tracing an arc from the Arab Spring in the Middle East to Occupy Wall Street in the United States.”

      “Muhawesh has investors, “retired businesspeople” whom she will not name — unfortunate for a journalism operation fighting alongside people seeking transparency. (The site’s “About Us” page is similarly skinny.)”

      (https://www.minnpost.com/david-brauer-blog/2012/01/who-mintpress-and-why-are-they-doing-all-hiring)

      So this article about the Turkish President’s son is coming from another Muslim inspired (and possibly backed) organization. That is not so odd. Though Turkey is supplying ISIS, there are Muslims who don’t like Turkey because their Ottoman Caliphate was run by men who weren’t members of the Quraysh tribe which Mohammad came from. They fear that the Turkey will try to co-opt the formation of a genuine caliphate and replace it with their own rule. That is what the article is really about. But it does shed some light on what Turkey is up to.

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 30, 2015 at 2:54 pm

        Just what I was going to post, PrayerWarrior.

        Mnar Muhawesh has claimed–on Russian government mouthpiece RT–that the United States has killed *8 million* Muslims in the War on Terror. She does nothing to back up these outrageous figures.

        “Mnar Muhawesh: Nearly 8 Million Muslim Casualties In US-Led War On Terror”

        http://www.mintpressnews.com/nearly-8-million-muslim-casualties-in-us-led-war-on-terror/209038/

        She also claims that the War on Terror has nothing to do with Islam, and that US involvement in Afghanistan–somehow–is all about oil interests.

        Never mind that Afghanistan has no oil industry, and whatever oil reserves that country may have have never been tapped.

        Zero Hedge is a financial blog, which sounds pretty straightforward–except that all posts are signed “Tyler Durden”, a character from Fight Club. It seems to deal with a lot of conspiracy theories and may possibly have Russian backing.

        That being said about the iffy sources, it is still quite clear that Erdogan has done a great deal to back ISIS. That his shadowy and corrupt son is likely involved would not surprise me at all.

    • Godwin says

      Dec 1, 2015 at 8:56 am

      Hahaha! USA is playing double standard. When a North Korean carrying stolen Libya oil, the US navy stopped it at high sea n asked it to return the crude oil back to LIbya. Now the Japanese oil tankers carry stolen oil from ISIS. No action. USA is really a big bully on the high seas. It has to pay for this karmic debt. Every country it bombed had turned into killing fields n sucking trillions of its USD to rectify the situations n many of its citizens also got killed..

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 1, 2015 at 1:18 pm

        “Killing fields”–grotesque calumny and witless hatred of the West.

  2. Jay Boo says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 11:40 am

    History revised

    His friendly Hindu or Buddhist ancestors looked up Islam in the library one day and said that the religion from Saudi Arabia seems like a peaceful loving religion and requested permission to join and to become Muslims.

    • ? says

      Nov 30, 2015 at 6:21 pm

      Don’t you just love revisionist history it so much better than actual history…

  3. Don McKellar says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 11:41 am

    That’s a good one. But I don’t think that the classic “ISIS was created by Israel and Mosaad!” can be beat. Or maybe by “other religions” he’s trying to infer that it’s a bunch of Jews behind those black masks who make up the Islamic State? Was Jihad John a Mosaad agent out to defame Islam the whole time?!?

    There is no limit to moslem conspiracy theory insanity. We’ve all certainly learned that over the years.

    • Jay Boo says

      Nov 30, 2015 at 11:56 am

      Their desperation to make such an outrageous claim might actually be a good sign that they know the stench of Islam is on display for the whole world to see.

      But then again, shameless Muhammad, their example actually made the outrageous claim to be a prophet.

      • Godwin says

        Dec 1, 2015 at 9:01 am

        This is one huge tiqqiyah to hook wink the world.

  4. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 11:50 am

    I don’t know what more proof, especially that from Moslem mouths and pens, is needed to convince everybody that zero Moslem immigrants must be the policy. But that’s the point, the proofs are kept out of the public consciousness by the TV and newspaper editors. So it’s not the availability of ample proof, it’s our steadfast unwillingness to broadcast them. All the talk about national and civilizational suicide is well founded. Fictive reality bubbles are opaque things that float in front of the face and render a man blind.

  5. mortimer says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 12:14 pm

    H.R.A. Choudhury wrote: “I understand that these people (ISIS) are not Muslims at all. They are not Muslims and are from some other religion and wearing Muslim masks and doing all their activities.”

    However, the teachers of Caliph al Baghdadi claimed he was the MOST Islamic of all their students! So who’s correct?

    H.R.A. Choudhury thinks his POSITITION can convince people. Does Choudhury have a PhD in Islamic studies like al-Baghdadi? Did he read as many Islamic books as him? No? Then is a con and a Taqiyya artist.

    His only concern is the ‘prestige’ of Islam and he is protecting it with lies. How unimpressive! That makes us DESPISE Islam even more. NOTHING MUSLIMS SAY MAY BE TRUSTED.

    Pah!

  6. Westman says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 12:20 pm

    Even the Paris Police are people from another religion, sometimes wearing masks to avoid later attacks by people of another religion who claim their religion is being defamed by people from another religion wearing masks.

    It’s not the masks; it’s not the people; it’s not a spiritual religion. It’s a contradictory ideology based in the Quran and Sunnah over which the adherents have warred with unbelievers and themselves since conception. It has never produced an era of both peace and freedom, an era of which it is incapable without further modification by a redeeming figure from Allah who nullifies supremacy and all ideology that allows oppression and slavery of infidels. Christianity had such a figure.

    If a literal interpretation of a text brings violence then the text was either written for that purpose or was poorly written and causes confusion. Nothing short of either a negation or rewriting the text will nullify its violent effects.

    The ideology of Islam, as can be found in a literal reading of the Quran and Sunnah, is too unstable and divisive – having no equivalence to the Golden Rule – to provide a stable foundation for intellectual and economic progress.

    The Ideology of Islam makes the adherent both supreme over the infidel and a slave to Allah; a contradictory position in which innovation and industry shrivel as the adherent bends the minutiae of his life to Allah while demanding, without equivalent accomplishments, supreme respect from infidels.

    In a free society, Islamic Ideology is self-defaming. It only has respect where there is ignorance of the doctrines.

  7. Jay Boo says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 12:23 pm

    All Muslims are blasphemers to Islam including Muhammad.
    If the Qur’an’s peaceful verses are abrogated then why are they still in the Qur’an?

    Recitation of an abrogation is inherently blasphemous to the corrected replacement verses.

    Doublethink for Islam’s excuses.

  8. ballotcode says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 12:26 pm

    So, isis is giving Mohamedism a bad name?
    What about the Pakis that burn down churches?
    What about the Mohamedan migrants throughout the world that still practice barbaric customs [FGM, honor killing, enforce headbags…].
    I’d say the problem is not with isis, it is with the ideology.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 30, 2015 at 4:03 pm

      Absolutely true, ballotcode.

      Even without ISIS, Islam is hideously violent. ISIS is just Islam in its purest form.

  9. G179 says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 12:27 pm

    It’s called a cognitive dissonance.

    You see all these atrocities done by muslims in the name of Islam.

    Your Quran tells you that muslims are good people, rightly guided by god, and speak only the truth.

    How can you live with this contradiction? You either make up ridiculous stories like this one, or you doubt your religion. But the second option is likely to get you killed, so you’re really only left with the first one.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Nov 30, 2015 at 3:08 pm

      The obfuscation about Moslems will resume upon completion of the Paris world conference on Global Warm… er, Climate Change. What a lurid coincidence that the conference is located there, especially now that Global Warm… er, Climate Change has been discovered to be a cause of Jihad mass murder. I’m sure the irony is lost on the national leaders in attendance. Global-socialists have no capacity for irony.

      Maybe there should be a world conference on Islam. Less the 57 OIC members, of course. And it’s likely that Hillary will be president by then, so send Paul Ryan in her place.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 30, 2015 at 4:18 pm

      G179, you are assuming that H.R.A. Choudhury is a morally decent but powerless Muslim torn by the ugliness of the creed he was born into, but too conflicted or afraid to leave it, and so he makes up stories like this one so he can live with himself.

      But this is not the case at all–Choudhury is a high profile Muslim, vice president of All India Muslim Majlis-e-Mushawarat, which is the largest Islamic body in India. It regularly whitewashes Jihad terrorism in places like Kashmir.

      What this story is is bald-faced Taqiyya–and it is not to make Choudhury or other Muslims feel better, but is just intended to convince credulous Infidels that Jihad terror has nothing to do with Islam.

  10. Jay Boo says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 12:40 pm

    Obama warned us.

    ISIS might be those pesky right wing evangelicals from Kentucky who “cling to guns and religion” that Obama warned us about.

  11. wildjew says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 12:58 pm

    Mr. Spencer, when you get a chance, you might want to look at this piece on left-leaning (Jewish Daily) Forward:

    “……In facing the current moment, there are four pitfalls we must avoid. The first two, the mistakes of misguided liberals, are (1) denying that Islam has anything to do with ISIS, and (2) refusing to admit that Islam is in unique crisis. The latter two, the mistakes of reactionary conservatives, are (3) declaring that Islam is irredeemably evil, and (4) painting all Muslims with the same brush. All four of these illusions are appealing to some, but all are false, and ultimately noxious…..

    http://forward.com/opinion/325598/4-mistakes-to-avoid-when-talking-about-radical-islam/#ixzz3szz5EONc

    4 Mistakes To Avoid When Talking About Radical Islam
    Shai Held November 30, 2015

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Nov 30, 2015 at 3:03 pm

      (2) refusing to admit that Islam is in unique crisis.

      For my part, as a non-Jew, I refuse to make the mistake of not “admitting” this cuz it is untrue. Islam ain’t in a unique crisis as were Erasmus, Luther, et al. Islam is on a roll.

      • wildjew says

        Nov 30, 2015 at 5:36 pm

        A read named “Jabotinsky” • 31 minutes ago posted a Spencer-like rebuttal (at least I think it is):

        “The criticism of liberals’ jihad whitewashing is too weak at best. The criticism of conservatives is made up straw-man arguments. Nobody on the right of any standing says this, Forward, Held, and general Clinton voters make this up about conservatives: “(3) declaring that Islam is irredeemably evil, and (4) painting all Muslims with the same brush.”

        http://i48.tinypic.com/29z8ky8.jpg

  12. devindersingh says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 1:08 pm

    What a joke, Muslims are habitual lier, we nonbelievers must unite if we want to defeat these fanatics. Muslims are playing good cop or bad cop with nonbelievers or we continusly ignoring the reality. These people has clear vision about goal.muslims want to establish darul Islam and we must unite

  13. citycat says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 1:35 pm

    Everything that a muslim says regarding Islam should be backed up by quoting from the Qur’an.

  14. Angemon says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 2:00 pm

    Agartala: ‘ISIS is not at all Muslims, rather these are people from other religion wearing masks and defaming Islam’, viewed Vice President of All India Muslim Majlis-e-Mushawarat H.R.A. Choudhury.

    Speaking to ANI at the sideline of a convention Choudhury said, “I understand that these people (ISIS) are not Muslims at all. They are not Muslims and are from some other religion and wearing Muslim masks and doing all their activities.”

    Right, and somehow those “people from other religion wearing masks” (I guess he’s a moderate since he’s not openly blaming DAAA JOOOOSSSSSS) manage to justify
    their actions with islamic orthodoxy without getting curb-stomped by actual muslims on that regard. I guess muslims scholars worldwide just see ISIS doing their stuff and say “no, no, that’s not islam, and I don’t need to explain myself anymore – just trust me on this one”. I mean, it doesn’t explain the approval rating ISIS gets from muslims, and it doesn’t account for the Western muslims whose religion and actions can be confirmed that went and joined ISIS, but sure, why not?

    Choudhury, a senior advocate of Gauhati High Court and president of Samajwadi Party of Assam’s state committee, was one of the chief guests at the convention of Tripura State Jamiat Ulema-i-Hind in Agartala Sunday.

    I wonder what nonsense spewed out from the other chief guests…

    According to the senior Muslim leader, due to the destructive activities of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS), the entire Muslim community is affected globally and suspected to be involved or sympathiser of terrorist activities.

    ISIS in Iraq and Syria? How about the actions of muslims in the rest of the whole f***ing world, dating back to the invention of islam in the 7th or 8th century?

    “Everyone is affected and questions are being raised (against Islam) due to the ISIS activities. Those who are doing all these in the name of the Koran and Allah are misusing the name of Koran and Allah. See no religion teaches all these ………. a real Muslim can never do all these things,” said Choudhury.

    Except for the people claiming to be real muslims who those things all over the world.

    He expressed that in India’s northeast often the people of Islamic faith are often under doubt due to subversive activities conducted by intruders for neighbouring Bangladesh or even from Pakistan….

    By which me means people calling themselves true, devout muslims.

    • ekbano says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 7:36 am

      Angemon your comment is in a format that does not scan. Beyond all the effort to produce this eyesore, you are doing yourself no favours. I am sure a majority of readers just grunt and move on, as I do, without reading a word of it. What is the format supposed to convey to us? Why?

  15. gravenimage says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 2:36 pm

    Muslim leader: ISIS “people from other religion wearing masks and defaming Islam”
    ……………………..

    Gee–what “other religion” might that be? Zen Buddhists? Seventh Day Adventists? Really, it’s a mystery…

    One other question, of course, is what besides Islam could supply so many people right in the heart of the Muslim world? Assyrian Christians? Yezidis? Jews sneaking in from Israel? Nope–all small minorities, threatened minorities.

    But of course the *big* question would be this: if these are non-Muslims acting to make Islam look bad, why is it that ISIS is so very attractive to pious Muslims from all over the world? Surely they would immediately recognize that the Islamic State is un-Islamic?

    But of course, this is all Taqiyya.

    In reality, All India Muslim Majlis-e-Mushawarat has protested against *any* resistance to Jihad, which it refers to as “random arrests of Muslim youth in the name of fighting terrorism”:

    “Fake terror cases will marginalize Muslims: Majlis-e-Mushawarat”

    http://www.greaterkashmir.com/news/national/fake-terror-cases-will-marginalize-muslims-majlis-e-mushawarat/124697.html

    The article also refers to “saffron militancy”–another false suggestion that the only “real terrorism” stems from Hindus.

    It also protests the presence of *any* Indian military in Kashmir–the withdrawal of which, of course, would lead to Pakistani Muslim separatists seizing that land. Of course, the unopposed expansion of Islamic supremacy is their whole aim.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Nov 30, 2015 at 3:00 pm

      … if these are non-Muslims acting to make Islam look bad, why is it that ISIS is so very attractive to pious Muslims from all over the world? Surely they would immediately recognize that the Islamic State is un-Islamic?

      The answer is to be found in the fact that Caliph Ibrahim (nee Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi) got his PhD in Islamic studies, but there has never been an argument over Islamic doctrine between him and a Unicron
      Islamic scholar.

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 30, 2015 at 10:51 pm

        I was, of course, speaking rhetorically, APF.

        You are quite right–none of those claiming that ISIS is un-Islamic go into details. There is a reason for that…

  16. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 2:57 pm

    I think by now most Americans understand that defaming Islam is a crime against Islam that must be punished by death. Just look at the video from that night back at the time of Garland when news entertainer superstars Bill O’Reilly and Laura Ingraham called for curtailment of free speech to avoid needless agitation, self-promotion and stupidity.

    But most Americans do *not* understand that just being a non-Moslem is also a capital crime. For example, that poor woman at the food processing plant in Moore OK was found guilty of such a crime and had her head removed as punishment. Maybe Bill and Laura can reprise their disgusting segment from a few months ago and go over that fact, as Bill likes to say, just to “take care of the folks.”

  17. Mack Bolan says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 3:02 pm

    It is quite interesting how this sort of excuse for wrong doing is mirrored by the liberal left whenever bad publicity is leaked to the populace. It is always a Republican conspiracy to bring down Hillary Clinton, or an attempt to discredit Obama. Benghazi can be blamed on right wing fundamentalist, manipulating the media ( because we all know that the right wing nut jobs are who really control the mainstream media, ha ha ha) the same thing goes for Obama’s clearly fake birth certificate, fast and furious, his very close relationship with Communist terrorist Bill Ayres, or any number of items on Obama’s long list of scandals.
    . Although inferring that ISIS is really Christians in disguise sounds too ridiculous to believe ( which of course it is) there will be alot of intelligent people who will publicly agree with the assertion but privately know it is BS. This will encourage many people to also agree with the suggestion. That doesn’t mean these people are flaming idiots ( although some clearly are ). It is belief that over the past few decades people have become intellectually lazy. This is caused in a big part by them tight hold that the sports and entertainment industry has on many peoples minds. They don’t want take time away from football and Keeping Up With The Kardasions to see the truth about what’s going on in the world. It’s much easier to just agree with Ben Affleck on these issues than to actually come up with their own thoughts. The majority of Americans under thirty years of age get their news from Comedy Central and this works out great for a government who wants control over its citizens thoughts and beliefs.

  18. More Ham Ed says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 4:55 pm

    Multiple secular-backed verified worldwide surveys conducted over the years repeatedly show that it’s HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS of muslims (lowercase be upon them) who support the death penalty for simple things like changing your faith or merely saying the wrong things. A 5-minute google search proves this to anybody who cares to learn.

  19. Matthieu Baudin says

    Nov 30, 2015 at 8:43 pm

    H.R.A. Choudhury would make an excellent Post Modernist, believing that he can alter reality by carefully employing the right words to redefine an entity. Would he have more credibility if he went on to describe ISIS as fundamentally non violent?

  20. Baucent says

    Dec 1, 2015 at 2:25 am

    This has got to be the most feeble excuse yet to explain why blood thirsty savages are butchering in the name of allah. Oh, it’s because they are not muslims are all. Pressed harder on what religion the fake muslims really follow, I expect Choudhury would finger the Jews.

  21. Frank Courtney says

    Dec 1, 2015 at 8:03 am

     ‘ISIS is not at all Muslims, rather these are people from other religion wearing masks and defaming Islam’.

    Taqiyya ad absurdam.

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