This is no surprise: the Islamic State bases its appeal to Muslims upon a claim of Islamic authenticity. Despite many claims to the contrary, moderates have not actually mounted any large-scale or effective refutation of that claim.
“Islamic State Radicalizes ‘Thousands’ in United States,” by Daniel Wiser, Daily Caller, November 25, 2015:
The Islamic State has likely radicalized thousands of people in the United States, according to a new report, raising concerns that supporters of the terrorist group could be plotting domestic attacks similar to the recent shootings and bombings in Paris.
The Threat Knowledge Group, an organization led by the counterterrorism experts Sebastian and Katharine Gorka, has compiled a list of 82 individuals in the United States who were affiliated with the Islamic State (also known as ISIS or ISIL) and apprehended by law enforcement officials, including those who traveled or attempted to travel to Iraq and Syria, launched domestic attacks, or participated in recruiting or fundraising.
The Gorkas note in a new report that almost one third of these individuals had plotted attacks against Americans on U.S. soil in the last 18 months. Sebastian is also an adviser to the Department of Defense, while Katharine has authored several publications about the terrorist threat to the U.S. homeland.
Through Islamic State propagandists on Twitter and other social media sites, the terrorist group has been able to attract hundreds more supporters in the United States, they said.
Ali Shukri Amin, a 17-year-old Virginia resident and Islamic State supporter who was sentenced to 11 years in prison in August, used his Twitter account with 4,000 followers to raise funds for the group and encourage friends to join it overseas.
Ahmad Musa Jibril, an Islamist preacher in Dearborn, Michigan, who has also spent time in jail for money laundering and tax evasion, also points to the terrorist group’s online reach. Jibril has more than 38,000 Twitter followers, though he has not tweeted since last July and may have found other methods of communication. He is reported to have a large following among foreign fighters in Iraq and Syria.
“Based on the evidence available, the number of ISIS supporters in the United States measures in the thousands, rather than hundreds,” the Gorkas said in their report.
“Whether ISIS will launch an attack on the scale of the Paris attack is unknown, but it is clear that the United States is a primary target for ISIS and that ISIS has the necessary supporters in place and the financial means to carry out such an attack,” they continued. “The challenges of screening incoming refugees may further exacerbate the problem.”…

Joseph says
And who said vultures don’t have lips?
Isn’t inbreeding great?
Where did he get the Jewish nose?
mortimer says
Many ‘Arabs’ have Jewish DNA from Jewish ancestors who were persecuted and forced to join Islam or die. Most ‘Palestinians’ have Jewish DNA since they are descended from Jews forcibly converted by the Ottomans.
Joseph says
Thanks Mortimer I forgot about that.
My only excuse is that I’m still on my 1st cup of java.
Dr. Divinity says
We need to hire thousands of FBI agents to route out these…”thousands”…of isis supporters in the U.S.I think the death penalty should be demanded for anyone supporting ISIS in any way. IN
ANY WAY!!! Come on lawmakers pass laws to that effect.
PRCS says
“The Islamic State has likely radicalized</b? thousands of people in the United States"
Radicalized, eh.
Michael Copeland says
Latin RADIX, root. Becoming “radicalized” means becoming acquainted with the root – radical – teachings of the ideology, in other words, becoming well informed.
kay says
“In their society, in the fanatic society, there is only a place for them.”
Re: “Radicalized, eh.”
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This is a very basic and commonly used term in political discussions.
You lack basic knowledge of these kinds of discussion. You are clueless. Definitions matter. In this context, “radical Islam” would always mean Political Islam. That is:
a) active support for Islamic jihad/ war on non-Muslim lands
b) active support for Sharia, the Islamic destruction of free thought, free speech, and free association.
My estimate is that 300 million Muslims support jihad ( and Sharia ), and 300 million Muslims or more support Sharia, fascist Islamic theocracy.
Even if the estimate is off by a factor of three, the threat to free societies and to civilization is extremely great.
The idea of a “political radical” refers to someone who insists on an ideology and political program.
The term does come from “radix”, meaning “root”. But in political discourse the phrase “political radical” refers to a fanatic who will not negotiate. That includes any and all radicals in a group who seek a political win by violence, terrorism, and/or war.
It is possible, in theory to be a Christian radical or some other kind of religious radical. A Christian [ political ] radical would be someone who seeks to actively support or establish a Christian theocracy in a secular state, such as the United States or France.
Such a person would be anti-secularist.
The opposite of a religious radical is always a secularist, one who supports basic human freedoms as laid out in the UN Declaration of Human Rights, the US Bill of Rights and so forth. Like Thomas Jefferson and also me.
One major form of religious radicalism is to shut down the religious associations of others. This has happened in the US, where Native American religion was made illegal, where many native kids were taken from their parents and sent to boarding schools, and where use of native language was punishable.
That is cultural destruction. And in the cases where the children were placed under authority of Catholic or Protestant church rule, it is radical Christianity.
Some Christian groups sought dominion over native Americans. The modern ( recent ) movement for Christian supremacy has been called “Dominionism.” This movement failed miserably. The political Christians fought against the homosexual marriage activists in the US and were completely crushed.
Radical thought and action are verbal and/ or physical. The physical kind of radicalism is violence. Political Islam is violent by nature. Political Christianity is not. Clear?
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“Author Caroline Fourest on Secularism against Fanaticism (Secular Conference)”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_BUjpqIgp8
“Laïcité( secularism ) is really to refuse that we are living in a society where the law, the justice, of course the state is inspired by religious rules instead of human law.
And this independence is so important…It’s more than just law, it is a philosophy.
And this philosophy is definitely not only what is protecting not only the nonbelievers, not only the atheists, but also the religious minorities…
We are promoting a model of society where there is a place for everyone, where it is not a danger for the other.. including very religious people. In their society, in the fanatic society, there is only a place for them.” — Author Caroline Fourest
PRCS says
Your cluelessness is troubling, Kay.
“This is a very basic and commonly used term in political discussions.”
By whom?
Do you really think those politicians who’ve declared their candidacy for the U.S. presidency knowingly use the term “radicalized” to indicate “political Islam”?
If you do, you commute in from a long way out.
And how does “political Islam” differ from written, Orthodox Islam?
What do you think the term “radical Islam” means to politicians, so-called “journalists”, and most importantly–to the general public?
Colloquially, despite Copeland’s correct reference to radix, it is used by liars and their useful idiots to create the factually bankrupt illusion that “radicals” have “hijacked/twisted/perverted” THE religion of peace.
That is what “radical Islam” infers to the masses.
Yes, dear, definitions do matter.
So, hold up a banner declaring “ISLAM! IT’S THE RADIX, STUPID” at a presidential rally and let me know what response you get.
And by the way, how exactly does “fascist Islamic theocracy” differ from the regular variety?
mortimer says
Robert Spencer wrote: “”The Islamic State is no mere collection of psychopaths. It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs…the Islamic State bases its appeal to Muslims upon a claim of Islamic authenticity”
Graeme Wood in Atlantic magazine wrote: “The reality is that the Islamic State is Islamic. Very Islamic. Yes, it has attracted psychopaths and adventure seekers, drawn largely from the disaffected populations of the Middle East and Europe. But the religion preached by its most ardent followers derives from coherent and even learned interpretations of Islam.”
The caliph al-Baghdadi is one of the most well-read Islamic scholars in the world. His teachers confirmed that the ISIS program is profoundly Islamic.
Al-Baghdadi’s main teacher from the Islamic University of Baghdad, exploded with rage when asked about al-Baghdadi’s credentials as an Islamic scholar: “If a person who has a PhD in Islamic studies and does nothing but study the Islamic scriptures knows nothing about Islam, then who does? The wine-sipping Muslims, those hedonistic adulterers will tell the world what true Islam is? Obama and Cameron know more about Islam than the faculty of Islamic studies at the Islamic University in Baghdad?” the professor bellowed with rage, while talking to a journalist.
To anyone who has read Islam’s source documents, Islamic history and Sharia law, it’s clear that ISIS is behaving like Muslims always have in the last 1400 years. ISIS’s main appeal is that is authentic. ISIS is authentic Islam, rather than an aberration.
Katnis says
Great quote. I hadn’t seen that before. Thank you for sharing.
Jim Peters says
I agree that the Muslims are entirely consistent with their approach to Western societies. Nothing has changed on their end for many centuries. This makes them very dangerous, because you cannot argue with a Muslim. According to their ideology, they are only doing what is righteously commanded in the Koran. This allows them the same excuse that Pontius Pilate used: wash their hands and say they are free from guilt, they only did what was right.
duh_swami says
Thousands is a low number…it’s probably several million…
eduardo odraude says
One of the first responsibilities of our journalists should be to make it much better known that public discourse today is warped by a great deal of self-censorship — by journalists and others afraid to be critical of Islam. http://www.quotingislam.blogspot.com
somehistory says
To quote the greatest speaker: “You will know them by their fruits.”
? says
Bad fruit borne from Bad seed, planted by bad parenting…..
This is the reaping 666
mortimer says
ISLAMIC RADICAL CHIC IS PREVALENT AMONG MUSLIM YOUTH…BUT NO ONE IS WATCHING
Ali Shukri Amin, a 17-year-old Virginia resident and Islamic State supporter who was sentenced to 11 years in prison in August, used his Twitter account with 4,000 followers to raise funds for the group and encourage friends to join it overseas.
Cecilia Ellis says
The TKG Report is a 20-page report that may be accessed at the following link:
http://threatknowledge.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/TKG-Report_The-ISIS-Threat.pdf
The report is spot on, especially the recommendations at the end. Well worth reading.
Angemon says
No, the number they know of. I bet the real number is way higher.