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Pentagon: Taliban “important partner” in Afghan “reconciliation process”

Nov 6, 2015 11:33 am By Robert Spencer

Why, then, did U.S. forces go into Afghanistan at all? The whole operation has been a bloody, futile waste. And there is still no end in sight.

Pentagon

“US sees Taliban as reconciliation partners: Pentagon,” Pakistan Today, November 5, 2015 (thanks to Lookmann):

US is no longer conducting counter-terrorism operations against the Taliban in Afghanistan because it views the group as an important partner in its efforts for restoring peace in the war-ravaged country, US Department of Defence said.

“What we’re not doing (is) counter-terrorism operations against the Taliban,” Pentagon spokesman Navy Captain Jeff Davis told a Wednesday evening news briefing in Washington.

“We actually view the Taliban as being an important partner in a peaceful Afghan-led reconciliation process. We are not actively targeting the Taliban,” he added.

The briefing, however, focused on US efforts to defeat the Middle East-based terrorist group IS (the self-styled Islamic State) which also has some presence in the Pak-Afghan region.

Capt Davis said that some “lone wolves” in Pakistan and Afghanistan were using the IS brand to raise their stature but the group did not have an institutional presence in the region.

He said the IS had a “pretty good” command and control system in Iraq and Syria but those claiming to represent the group in Afghanistan and Pakistan did not have the command and control relationship with the main IS.

The Pentagon official said the United States was working “very extensively” with the Pakistani government in the fight against terrorists….

That’s reassuring!

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  1. DP111 says

    Nov 6, 2015 at 12:01 pm

    If the Taliban are part of the reconciliation process, then so are al Qaeda. Then both wars, costly in blood and treasure, have been of no use… except.. let me think…

    the extinction of Christianity in the Middle East. Curiously, this was the goal of Mohammed, and probably still is the goal of Saudi Arabia. Yet again we see America fulfilling the ambition and desires of geo-political desires of Islam and Saudi Arabia, just as they did when they created two Islamic states in Europe.

    Syria is the one country where Iraqi Christians found sanctuary after we liberated Iraq. Syrian Christians also had freedom to be Christian. The Saudi backed US has been trying to destroy the government of Assad. Why? Are they not aware that if they do, then Christianity will be finished in the ME, and in the very part where Christians were once called Christians.

    .

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Nov 6, 2015 at 12:39 pm

      … the extinction of Christianity in the Middle East. Curiously, this was the goal of Mohammed…

      Coincidence, mere coincidence. Moslems are like Christians, neither are affected by their scriptures. Most all Christians are now secular progressive atheists, most all Moslems are badly misunderstood regular folk made the victim of bigotry.

      • Spot On says

        Nov 7, 2015 at 9:16 am

        With friends like the Taliban and Al Qaeda, who needs enemies? Is this Obama’s secret plan to eliminate our enemies? Why didn’t we think of that…just join with the enemy and poof…no more enemies…. No more need for military or war. Wow,

      • DP111 says

        Nov 8, 2015 at 1:25 pm

        APG

        I stand corrected. Thanks.

        How could I ever have doubt.

    • somehistory says

      Nov 6, 2015 at 12:53 pm

      Yep. Christ said since He was “hated by the world”, His followers, His disciples, would also “be hated.”

      The taliban…oh, so evil they were doing to make women wear the black cloth of supremacy, whipping women in the streets for being out alone, keeping little girls from going to school, policing the communities to make everyone obey their every whim…and the American and British soldiers were there to put an end to that oppression.
      There was to be voting and freedom and schools were built…and omar had to run away to the hills.
      Now, the taliban are good guys…”partners”. And yet, they are the same….they have not changed one iota.

      And as you pointed out, it was for the elimination of Christianity in that part of the world. Syrian Christians are on the ropes. islam is on the march into Europe and Christians will suffer the consequences…if there are any left…such as the woman in the church who was against having the moslim cleric there praying to satan…we read about her on JW.
      Will they follow up with a taliban in the U.S.? Doesn’t taliban mean *student* and aren’t moslims taking over in the schools to teach islam as the only religion and satan as god?

      (Revelation 13 is being fulfilled.)

    • Christianblood says

      Nov 6, 2015 at 6:37 pm

      Taliban was created, trained and armed by the US to fight Russia in the eighties.

      • gravenimage says

        Nov 7, 2015 at 12:29 am

        Revisionist history. Once again, this poster shows that he hates the West *far* more than he does ravening Mohammedans.

        • christianblood says

          Nov 7, 2015 at 12:12 pm

          You can’t hide the facts by using personal attacks. What I said is a fact and it is a fact that is still happening today! We would all be better served, if you focus your energy on how to persuade your American government to, for Christ’s sake, STOP supporting Islamic jihadist groups and Islamic countries that are backing them such as Saudi Arabia, Turkey and many others.

        • Ex-muslim says

          Nov 7, 2015 at 1:14 pm

          gravenimage

          Are you suggesting that USA did not enable the talibani mohamedan jihadist groups in Afghanistan in the eighties and the same present day mohamedan jihadists in the mid east region?

        • Rickmt says

          Nov 7, 2015 at 4:14 pm

          Read “Ghost Wars”: The Secret History of the CIA, Afghanistan, and bin Laden, from the Soviet Invasion to September 10, 2001 – Steve Coll

          I think you will find that we hated the Russians more than muslims in those days. It was nothing more than getting even for all those wars we fought against an enemy backed by the Russians. Vietnam was number 1 on my list, but you can go all the way back to Korea. Our enemies drew a lot of of American blood with the help of Russian equipment, “advisors”, etc. Sad thing: it has backfired big time.

        • Angemon says

          Nov 7, 2015 at 8:52 pm

          Rickmt posted:

          “It was nothing more than getting even for all those wars we fought against an enemy backed by the Russians. Vietnam was number 1 on my list, but you can go all the way back to Korea. Our enemies drew a lot of of American blood with the help of Russian equipment, “advisors”, etc.”

          That is a key point. As Ive already told CB, backing the talibans in Afghanistan was, at the time, simply another proxy war between two superpowers in decades of proxy wars between two superpowers. Pretending that the USSR was just minding their own business and the US came along and created the mujahideen purposely to attack Russia is simply not true.

    • Lia Wissing says

      Nov 7, 2015 at 4:01 am

      The Pentagon has a perception problem: they also think Mr Abbas is a ‘possible peace partner’. The Pentagon has a speech impediment: they can’t say ‘islamic terror’/’islamic terrorist’ The Pentagon has a math problem: they can’t add Jordan & Israel and get to 2 states, so they keep harping on Gaza.

      • Rickmt says

        Nov 7, 2015 at 4:17 pm

        The Pentagon has only one real problem: barack hussein obama, our muslim president.

    • Ex-muslim says

      Nov 7, 2015 at 1:00 pm

      DP111

      (…the extinction of Christianity in the Middle East. Curiously, this was the goal of Mohammed, and probably still is the goal of Saudi Arabia. Yet again we see America fulfilling the ambition and desires of geo-political desires of Islam and Saudi Arabia, just as they did when they created two Islamic states in Europe…)

      You are right. It was Mohamed’s dream and the goal of Saudi Arabia and all the muslims in this region to Islamise the mid east and make Christianity disappear there and with the Western backing, they are getting closer and closer to realize their goal with no one to stop them.

    • David Church says

      Nov 7, 2015 at 6:08 pm

      It appears senior officials at the Pentagon have sold out to Obama and his Muslim friends. Partner with the Taliban? Al Quaida? Insane! Does this mean the US and its allies in Afghanistan will invite the Tailban to sit in on classified briefings? Will they be disarmed or armed with our best weapons and body armor?
      It is time to clean up the US Administration & those who would lead the US military to destruction!

  2. jihad3tracker says

    Nov 6, 2015 at 12:01 pm

    Whenever I am tempted to see the United States in too favorable a way by ignoring our abundant shortcomings, reading statements like this by the Pentagon, and a mental review of combat related “foreign policy” activities since the years of Vietnam brings me back to the colossal idiocy of American presidents and their coteries of ignorant $$$-corrupted fools.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Nov 6, 2015 at 12:28 pm

      One of the best examples of our shortcomings is in the post of Glasov interviewing Coughlin a couple of days ago. FBI agents who’d been trained in the real facts of Islam were identified and cycled back through corrective training based on select falsehoods about Islam. This amounts to re-education, but in conference rooms instead of in killing fields in Communist China or later in Cambodia.

      Truth is no longer held as necessary; inconvenient facts are frowned upon and even ruled out of bounds. This will lead to trouble, very big and very bad trouble. It’s happening in a number of areas, but doing the Orwellian newspeak around Moslems will result in catastrophe.

      Speaking of which, notice that Islam has popped up only twice in this presidential campaign. And both times it was used as a cudgel against reality, and promptly retired from the discourse.

      • PRCS says

        Nov 6, 2015 at 10:28 pm

        I note that Brian Kilmeade has written a book about the interdiction of Barbary pirate activities by the U.S. Navy/Marine Corps.

        During a book promotion appearance with Ms. Kelly, he accurately stated that those Muslims claimed the right to do such as, according to the Qur’an, those crews were infidels.

        Yet, right after MK referred to the pirates as “radicals”, BK referred to them as “extremists” (not Muslims!)

        From a short email exchange concerning a well know Islam expert’s Fox appearance I learned that he had been told “not to bash the religion” beforehand.

        That both Kelly and Kilmeade have computers and access to the internet–and surely know the truth–yet persist in that kind of public misinformation leads me to believe that Fox’s policy is to obfuscate the truth.

        FBI personnel have the same access to books, internet and other info as any of us here, and most surely know the truth, too.

        But their failure to publicly rebuke the administration’s intentional, politically driven suppression of the truth–unlike the failure of “journalists” to buck private, corporate policy–is shameful.

        I can only imagine the reaction of “news” organizations to a group of FBI and other law enforcement/intelligence gathering personnel telling not only the truth about Islam but how and why the administration has been preventing them from doing so.

        • Daniel Triplett says

          Nov 7, 2015 at 8:51 pm

          @PRCS

          Interesting you say that. I saw Kilmeade being interviewed by Leland Vittert & Elizabeth Prann this morning. I too noticed and was disappointed by Brian’s careful use of the dangerous and misleading euphemism, “extremists.”

          Soon after, I went to http://www.briankilmeade.com, where there’s a section in which we can send him a personal Email, which I did.

          I’ve heard, but can’t remember where, nor can I prove it, that a majority stakeholder in FoxNews is a Muslim. And after 9/11, when newsmen began to speak often of Islam & Muslims on TV, this Muslim stakeholder ordered Roger Ailes to order the staff not to blame Muslims, but rather “Radical Muslims.” I’m sure all speaking guests are forewarned also that they must prefix a euphemistic adjective.

          I don’t think guys like Kilmeade and Hannity are stupid. They’ve even written books, in part, about the “Radical” Islamic problem. I think they likely understand the problem just as well as we, but they don’t want to lose their jobs. I can empathize with that. Most of us answer to someone in our jobs and must follow orders. I’d much rather see he and Hannity (two guys who get it) stay on the air, doing the best they can to spread the word, rather than be replaced by Useful Idiots.

          I essentially told him just that, but explained that we all expect the WHOLE truth from Fox, and Fox is misleading Americans with a false sense of security with the whole “Tiny Minority of Extremists hijacking The Religion of Peace” BS.

          Perhaps if you and some others write him a similar message on his website, he will know that many of us share this view, and are concerned about the lack of time we have to end Islam altogether.

          Perhaps a letter campaign to Roger Ailes is in order as well. With civilization at stake, they ought dump that jihadist stakeholder forcing his Taqiyya to be regurgitated by the entire FoxNews organization.

  3. Sam says

    Nov 6, 2015 at 12:15 pm

    All government agencies and the armed forces are governed by liberal idiots. To regain sanity as a nation we need two, three generations of telling the truth about history and everything else to our youth. As of now I am accepting the fact that we will be more like Europe in the next two three years. Obama’s leaving the office in 2016 will not help anything.

    In the meantime please don’t send any of our children overseas to get killed under the traitor Obama. No please!

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Nov 6, 2015 at 12:34 pm

      To regain sanity as a nation we need two, three generations of telling the truth about history…

      Been to a college history department lately? I’m afraid things are moving in the opposite direction. It’d be fun to make a documentary of Spencer applying for and trying to get a professorship. Make it over two years, with him pleading to appointment committees, arguing with tenured professors. Throw in a rich guy with trying to fund a pro-Islam reality seat at a university but getting turned down and being vilified in the press and on TV, and then meeting poor Spencer in a bar off-campus in some town to drown their sorrows together. Such a documentary could save the art form from the predation of liar hacks like Big Al Gore and Steven Moore.

      • DP111 says

        Nov 8, 2015 at 1:35 pm

        APG

        Universities since the early 90’s are merely money making institutions. Academic standards have fallen year by year, even in “hard” subjects such as Physics and Engineering.

        All one needs to get a tenured chair is to have a generous financial backer.or sympathetic government.

        • Angemon says

          Nov 8, 2015 at 5:49 pm

          Speaking of which:

        • DP111 says

          Nov 8, 2015 at 8:43 pm

          Thats a good link.

          Heather Macdonald was a valuable commentator on the late Laurence Austers site VFR.

  4. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Nov 6, 2015 at 12:20 pm

    We actually view the Taliban as being an important partner in a peaceful Afghan-led reconciliation process. We are not actively targeting the Taliban.

    Yeah, actually. A word well chosen. Part of running a fake war is not having any real enemies. These are Moslems after all, just activist ones. And we all know about Moslems; we all know what we should not know and what must not be said.

    • EYESOPEN says

      Nov 6, 2015 at 9:43 pm

      You’re right there APF.

  5. jihad3tracker says

    Nov 6, 2015 at 1:04 pm

    OFF TOPIC BUT IMPORTANT FOR THOSE OF US WHO LIKE BEN CARSON —-

    His campaign is saying that he lied about application to West Point and related assertions in his bio. Yes, candidate lies are as common as stones in the road, but this cannot help Carson, unfortunately.

  6. JeffS says

    Nov 6, 2015 at 1:41 pm

    I’m thinking of some of the modern-day cartoons that my toddler watches, like Bubble Guppies, where the bad guy turns out not to be bad after all: he really had a good reason for what he was doing, and it was all a misunderstanding, and they live happily ever after. That’s the way Western governments make policy these days, without realizing that sometimes the bad guy really is bad, and most be confronted.

    • gravenimage says

      Nov 6, 2015 at 2:20 pm

      I remember when cartoons had real cartoon badguys–would Bluto and Snidely Whiplash and Boris Badenov and Skelator be too much for the little ones today to handle?

      Al Qaida and the Taliban certainly seem to be too much for the “grown ups”…

      • somehistory says

        Nov 6, 2015 at 7:20 pm

        The young girl being thrown on the RR tracks, or under the buzz saw, etc. and the hero has to come and rescue her from the evil banker who insists that she marry him or her father must pay a huge mortgage..and the banker knows there is no money on the poor farm.
        Even Wiley Coyote chasing the Road Runner was made to look really mean…and he got blown up over and over by his own devices from Acme.

        Tweety Bird chased by the cat and the dog having to rescue little Tweety. All of these were said, in the previous century, to be too violent. The cartoons that I have seen…and they are few…seem to say it’s okay to be and do whatever and no one is wrong.

  7. Angemon says

    Nov 6, 2015 at 1:48 pm

    US is no longer conducting counter-terrorism operations against the Taliban in Afghanistan because it views the group as an important partner in its efforts for restoring peace in the war-ravaged country, US Department of Defence said.

    This is not Rocky throwing the towel, this is Rocky throwing the towel and saying that Ivan Drago is an important partner in the efforts to heal Apollo Creed.

    • EYESOPEN says

      Nov 6, 2015 at 9:41 pm

      An apt comparison.

  8. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Nov 6, 2015 at 2:00 pm

    OT: Progress and the party.

    From Cassius Clay and Cat Stevens to world domination in a generation.
    — historical overview by a blogger named Adrian

    Prez Dubya held a gala dinner for Cassius, who resisted the draft based on his Islamic faith and refused to fight for his nation. By the time Dubya was sucking up to him, he’d changed his name to Muhammed Ali, but still the RINO was gushing and effusive. Then he held a succession of Eid parties in the White House, which have been kept up by his successor Prez Barack Hussein. No such party for Cat, who’s music got real bad after converting to Islam and changing his name to Yusuf Islam. Catchy. Get it? Not so for Muhammad, because beating the hell out of people fits better with Islam than crooning. But the world domination part, there will be no party for anybody in that. All partying will stop, including the Democrat and Republican parties. The only one left will be the Ulema Party. The bars will be shut down, and house parties will become felony crimes, especially those involving alcohol.

  9. Walter Sieruk says

    Nov 6, 2015 at 2:17 pm

    If some in the Pentagon actually view the”Taliban as reconciliation partners” then such men are fools and are unfit for any position in the Pentagon as well as unfit for any office in the Unites States government at all. For educated men of understanding will see that the Taliban are deceptive ,lying sly and insidious to the extreme. For in any so called “reconciliation talks” the Taliban will speak the truth only when if happens to suite them the rest of the time they will speak lies and half-truth. In other words the Taliban know how to be subtle and,disingenuous in their schemes for achieving their goals. Those in the Pentagon would do well to heed the wisdom of Sun Tzu in THE ART OF WAR .For its teaching do ,very much ,apply to this subject. For the book reads “We cannot enter into an alliance with neighboring princes until we are acquainted with their designs.” To put this in a more current and updated way, it may be said that “We cannot enter into an alliance with the Taliban, in any kind of reconciliation process, until are know and are acquainted with their real intentions.’

  10. gravenimage says

    Nov 6, 2015 at 2:24 pm

    “We actually view the Taliban as being an important partner in a peaceful Afghan-led reconciliation process. We are not actively targeting the Taliban,” he added.
    ……………………..

    Does it matter that they are still murdering our personnel there?

    Of course not–can’t let a little thing like that stand in the way of considering them a “partner for peace”…sarc/off

    If we’re targeting the Taliban at all, it should be with drones…

  11. EYESOPEN says

    Nov 6, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    “Why, then, did U.S. forces go into Afghanistan at all? The whole operation has been a bloody, futile waste. And there is still no end in sight.”

    You get it right there Robert. Because these unnamed “wars” (since Korea) were never meant to be won.

  12. dragaozao says

    Nov 7, 2015 at 5:33 am

    Only one word: defeat!!!
    Only one thought: on the lives of those who died for nothing.
    Only one consequence: USA stands for nothing, from now on.
    And then american politicians are worried about the russian propaganda? Really? The russians have no need for that. Just let american politicians do their job and Russia will lead the world.

  13. underbed cat says

    Nov 7, 2015 at 8:39 am

    Islamic leadership or MB consultants in Pentagon? O.K. so the Pentagon does not know about tacqyya?
    Does it know about permissible lying? Jihad? Hijrah? Sharia Law? Is this influence because or cooperation or money or both? How does this place run…..just curious. Is curiosity a learning experience or dangerous? Things better left unknown, but at the very least confusing to citizens…who may be concerned.

    • DP111 says

      Nov 8, 2015 at 1:42 pm

      Does it know about permissible lying? Jihad? Hijrah? Sharia Law? Is this influence because or cooperation or money or both?

      NO it does not know. Besides, it is not permissible to know such things in the Saudi backed Obama regime. Its akin to thought crime.

      Didn’t you get the memo?

  14. rooare says

    Nov 7, 2015 at 5:40 pm

    The inmates are running the asylum.

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