The Grand Sheikh of al-Azhar and the Sultan of Sokoto, in assuring us that Islam has nothing to do with terrorism, did not explain why Muslim clerics and preachers so often get involved in jihad terror plots and attacks.
“Six BRITONS arrested in Belgium as UK hate preachers linked to Paris attacks mastermind,” by Selina Sykes, Express, November 23, 2015:
A heavily-armed anti-terror unit swooped on the group near a petrol station which is regularly used by Salah Abdeslam – the fugitive terrorist still at large eight days after 130 people were killed in the French capital.
Six armoured trucks and a police car rushed in after the old ambulances were parked in a rest area beside the E411 highway in Bierges, south-east of Brussels, at around 2pm local time on Saturday.
The Pakistani-born British men were questioned by security forces as officers continued to search the ambulances – two Fiats and a Mercedes with British number plates.
Food, clothes and money were recovered from the vehicles – raising suspicions the men may have been heading for Syria.
The Belgian capital Brussels remains on shut down today after the government warned of a “serious and imminent threat” on Saturday as authorities searched for two men with an explosive.
One of the men is understood to be known to British police who are assisting Belgian authorities.
Police are investigating any link to Islamic State (ISIS) after it was revealed using old ambulances was a hallmark cover tactic used by the terror group.
The British men were said to be co-operating with detectives and have been fingerprinted to check for possible matching.
The arrests came as it was revealed the alleged mastermind behind the Paris attacks was part of an extremist network linked to at least six hate preachers from Britain.
Paris ringleader Abdelhamid Abaaoud – who was killed in an anti-terror raid by French authorities in Saint-Denis after the atrocities in the French capital on November 13 – was associated with a banned terrorist group called Sharia4Belgium.
The militant group, which has sent more than 50 Belgian fighters to join ISIS in Syria, was founded by in 2010 by Fouad Belkacem after he travelled to London to seek inspiration from a radical British cleric.
The cleric, who cannot be named for legal reasons, has described Belkacem as a “dear friend” and told how he was asked to help “start something in Belgium”.
Sharia4Belgium quickly began recruiting impressionable young men from places such as Molenbeek – the Brussels district which has been dubbed Europe’s “jihadi haven” after it emerged several of the Paris attackers came from the troubled town.
Members of the group also approached Omar Bakri Muhammad, the former London-based hate preacher who was banned from Britain in 2005, while he was living in exile in Lebanon to help gain access to jihadis in Syria.
It is understood at least three other extremists from the UK travelled together to Belgium to help Belkacem promote sharia on the streets.
They included Abu Rahin Aziz, a father-of-two from Luton who fled to Syria and became an ISIS bombmaker.
Aziz, 32, is believed to have met Paris mastermind Abaaoud, 28, in the ISIS stronghold of Raqqa and learnt bombmaking skills.
Britons Asfor Ali and Saiful Islam are also thought to have helped Sharia4Belgium leader Belkacem spread his extreme views in his native country.
Ali, 28, is a former London Underground worker who was jailed last year after he was found in possession of bombmaking instructions and al-Qaeda propaganda.
Islam is a radical preacher from Luton who has praised Osama bin Laden and warned of terror attacks in Britain.
A fourth extremist from the UK, who cannot be named for legal reasons, travelled to Belgium in 2012 to initiate Sharia4Belgium members in “military tactics”.
Belgium, which has a population of just 11million, has produced more jihadi fighters per capita than any European country – with between 350 and 440 Belgians having fled for Syria or Iraq….

Marty says
I doubt if the BBC or most UK MSM will report this.
I think “British muslim” is an oxymoron & they should
dump their ideology or go back where they belong.
And that goes double for mohammedans born in the UK.
Viola Chocolate says
Sorry pal that might have been an option 16 years ago. With any luck we’re looking at partition. After a long and bloody war of course. There is and was a reason for language, borders and culture. It’s looking like the survival of the dumbest. Maybe the Russians will save us from the Nazis again.
Malcolm Jackson says
No such thing as a British Muslim. You can be British and respect UK law or you can belong to the evil cult of Islam and follow Sharia Law. You cannot do both.
Mark says
Has the biased bullcrap corporation put in for a new name yet… al jazeera 2, uk?
Jay Boo says
using old ambulances was a hallmark cover tactic used by the terror group.
— using mosques is a 1400 year old tradition cover tactic used by the terror ideology.
Mark says
When and if we ever get it the mosques’s files hiding in the back room’s then maybe the world will see that mosques’s are nothing more then embassy of the muslem nation
Dr. Divinity says
all mosques and so called muslim preachers throughout the free world should be under investigation by law enforcement officials.
Mark says
And the red cross charity of britian, supports the muslim version, red crescent who have been involved in weapons, bomb and terrorist smuggling… again in ambulances.
Contact the red cross asking why they help islamoterrorism and you get transfered to a muslim.
miriamrove says
Of course Obama and Hillary are going to say this does not have anything to do with so called religion of peace. m
خَليفة says
Put them in solitary confinement for the rest of their lives.
And I bet there are hundreds if not thousands more, just like them, living in western countries.
Destroy every mosque linked to terroristic plots, directly, or by supporting or harboring those involved.
Do the same for churches, synagogues, temples, any organization or individual that does terrorism. The west needs to have a zero-tolerance for terrorists and their ilk.
Jay Boo says
If we had a shadow organization with the aggressiveness of Islam, there would be no need to bring these duplicitous hate preachers to trial.
Before we can plant seeds (of peace) we must remove the weeds.
ekbano says
Now THAT makes sense. Tend your patch.
Sam S. Ara says
B-b-b-b-b-but they weren’t “true” Muslims, right? Because “true” Muslims following the “true” Islamic teachings couldn’t possibly become LEADERS, right? So say all of the other “true” Muslims, right?
mortimer says
Pakistan is one of the main sources of enthusiastic JIHAD PREACHERS. They compete with one another.
Now, we are told, BELGIUM LEADS IN THE PRODUCTION OF JIHADIST-TERRORISTS!
Great! How smart does that make Belgium voters?
ICH says
none of it matters cos Whoopi said Hitler was a Christian.
Malcolm Jackson says
Hitler was not a Christian. Hitler was a great admirer of Islam and admired the way Islam controls and brainwashes its members. Hitler even had a Moslem SS Unit operating in the Balkans throughout WW2. Szrebrinica was pay back time for the Moslem atrocities committed by the Nazi/Moslem SS units against non-moslems during WW2.
kay says
To repeat:
“The only religion I respect is Islam. The only prophet I admire is the Prophet Muhammad.”
— Adolph Hitler, quoted by Ahmed Huber; Kevin Coogan, “The mysterious Achmed Huber: Friend to Hitler”
Islam is Nazism with a God Eric Allen Bell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5RjyxVEMVo
And I just realized something. ANOTHER group of reasons to NOT kiss the Koran is:
a) Islam is violently anti-Jewish in nature and practice.
b) the Rabbi Jesus was a Jew.
c) You can’t claim to follow the Laws and the Prophets based on wholesale rejection of the Laws and the Prophets. Or rejection of the New Testament, which turns out to be central to this stupid irrational anti-social delusional nonsense called Islam.
I never got the business of Christians ( like Martin Luther ) or others being rabidly anti-Jewish. I read a whole book on the philosophy of Martin Luther. Even that had glaring crucial omissions!
Any basic examination of history shows that Jews, Christians, and Muslims don’t get along. In my personal life I don’t engage any of these believers, but more importantly what I find is that people really don’t know the history associated with these religious groups.
And they don’t know the history of Nazism or Communism either. Most people are illiterate in history. Big mistake.
To read Muzzie talk in many discussions one would think that of all people the carpet pilots know by far the LEAST of the history of Islam and Muslim countries, early or modern. Their public “discourse” is mainly delusion or dishonesty or both. They are PATHETIC. And easily crushed.
What de Santayana said was that “Those who do not remember the lessons of history are doomed to repeat them.” At fifteen I saw that quote on a poster. One of the greatest teachings I ever got. And of my sixty high-level Buddhist teachers, three taught the Dalai Lama.
The only way to learn history or theology is to go to primary sources and study comparative analyses. Many statements of history and of theology are weak, incomplete, or strongly contradicted. You have to put together your own map.
People have to learn to think for themselves. And that is pretty much the opposite of what many people call religion. That is a root failure several ways over.
The study of history and religious history is shocking, painful and miserable. If you do it at all right.
There are some good parts. And these too are mostly misunderstood! Like people can’t even figure out how to start with Wikipedia. How pathetic.
In any event, I have many times defended the Christians against the false charge of a “Christian Adolf Hitler.”
Et lux in tenebris lucit. The light in the darkness shall shine.
What an effing MISERABLE month this is. There is a lot at risk right now. Including the foundations of civilization. And I mean free speech. Something that Barack Obama, Hilary Clinton, Angela Merkel, Pope Francis and all Islamists emphatically and concretely oppose. This is a critical time. It is necessary to fight for civilization.
Camus: We have nothing to lose but everything. So let us begin.
? says
Hitler was not a Christian he may have played the Catholics and was probably raised as a Catholic but I can assure you that he was no Christian. It’s more likely he was an atheist, seeing Gobbels’ attitude toward Christianity in the later years of the Reich,and the oppression of Catholics.
David says
Whoopi is an absolute DUFUS!
The poor brain dead shell, is totaly disconnected from reality!!!
Malcolm Jackson says
No such thing as a British Muslim. You can be British and respect UK law or you can belong to the evil cult of Islam and follow Sharia Law. You cannot do both.
David says
The cleric, who cannot be named for legal reasons, has described Belkacem as a “dear friend” and told how he was asked to help “start something in Belgium”.
say wha???
Michael Copeland says
Saiful Islam is the muslim who assaulted Tommy Robinson through the window of the car (on video) in Luton.
The cleric-who-cannot-be-named who helped Sharia4Belgium may well be Anjem Choudary, who did just that, and is a disciple of Omar Bakri of the now banned Al Muhajiroun.
kay says
Anjem Choudary is a completely honest Islamist, sociopath, and public opponent of all western values. Take him at face value.
There are stacks of material for him on youtube. Which I have studied.
He is a major and effective Muslim preacher.
I still cannot tell if he is formally invested as a Muslim imam. It’s just not clear.
But he is demonstrably an Islamofascist, as youtube videos prove.
By nature he is a murderous Islamic sociopath, not a murderous Islamic psychopath.
A psychopath is distinguished by cruelty and sadism. Sociopaths are those who care nothing for others. Big difference.
The “prophet” Muhammad was a bigtime psychopath, not a sociopath.
The Caliph al-Baghdadi is a pure psychopath. As proven by his treatment of Kayla Mueller.
The Islamic State crew is basically all psychopaths ( mostly extreme psychopaths ) twenty to thirty thousand psychopaths from ninety to one hundred countries.
They have lots of support from the Salafist sociopath Erdogan of Turkey, all their sociopathic supporters of Saudi Arabia ( all Salafist ) and so forth.
Those who murdered this month in Paris were all extreme psychopaths. They did a lot of knifing of abdomens at Bataclan Paris. Not just shooting. This is not well known.
I think early knowledge of this is what caused the French Defense Minister to kinda break down in front of the German Defense Minister a few days later. It wasn’t just all the killing at the Bataclan. It was the TORTURE of the bloodbath with all the sadistic knifing.
From my perspective, twenty two percent of carpet pilots are psychopaths and twenty two percent of carpet pilots are psychopaths. I remain convinced this is a CONSERVATIVE figure based on several polls. I believe that psychopathy and sociopathy are both developing strongly in the Muslim communities over the last ten years, and that over 600 million Muslims are very dangerous.
The point here is to be able to distinguish these two groups by the emotional archetypes of their religious fascism.
With regard to the Alawite / Christian regime in Damascus, a vast number of Arabic Sunnis are psychopathic. These Sunni can publicly state on TV their psychopathic anger in the EXPRESS desire to slaughter and indeed liquidate the Alawites down to the last man woman and child.
These Syrians are NOT people you want to bring in to Canada, the US, or western Europe. There are very real problems in Germany and Sweden right now because of the migrants.
In general the migrants are sociopathic wrt indigenous European women. Among some groups of predominantly military age migrant males entering Europe it looks ( on youtube ) like sixty percent could be sociopathic, And that many of these are vicious, dangerous and violent by nature.
In other words, there is strong video evidence of a large scale entry of psychopathic carpet pilot males into Europe this year. I deem them far more dangerous than Nazis and I predict endemic urban struggle in different parts of Europe, including England, France and Germany.
Frequently, the Arabs and./ or Muslims are psychopathic wrt Jews and Israelis.
Here is an example of anti-Semitic psychopathy on an American college campus:
The murderous grasping aggression is revealed by voice tone.
Radical Muslim UCSD student
kay says
Well, at least I caught this just following the post.
Change:
“From my perspective, twenty two percent of carpet pilots are psychopaths and twenty two percent of carpet pilots are PSYCHOpaths.”
To:
“From my perspective, twenty two percent of carpet pilots are psychopaths and twenty two percent of carpet pilots are SOCIOpaths.”
I keep having to use these two words a lot. But the text makes clear a fundamental difference between these two types.
When I look at professional psychological books and references, the terms are not clearly distinguished in an agreed way.
The only way I know to effectively distinguish these two terms is vicious intent. My definitions are clear and reasonable, but it is quite likely that some or many western clinical psychologists will substantially disagree with me on this key point. In different ways. ( Shrugs. )
Given that, it would be the responsibility of the western psychologists to AGREE a basic ( and different ) distinguishing characteristic. And then break mine. Don’t think that’s gonna happen.
I want to emphasize that these clinical terms are critically important for discussing Islam IN GENERAL. As shown by tons of evidence from all over and across thirteen centuries. That is a key tool in my toolkit.
The term “Islamophobic” is however a made-up word and it entails IRRATIONAL belief. It is PSEUDO-psychology. People use that word all the time. It is merely an attempt to shut down debate thru an ad hominem attack, a cheap debate swindle.
The famous Ben Affleck / Sam Harris exchange shows how ad hominem attacks fail against someone well-informed.
Even tho I make mistakes like this one, my overall communication gives a clearly developed case. Ben Affleck did not learn to make a case. And neither do those who use the term “Islamophobic” all the time.
If someone tries to pull that trick, the obvious rejoinder question is to ask them to define the stupid pseudo-psychological term. Then you have them.
I have been following lots of debates that largely revolve around this term or concept, but no one ever thought to ask for a definition, or to give one. This is dumb and pathetic.
Much of the very real confusion and irrationality we see in public communication is due to people assuming things about others or about the words and concepts they themselves use. Then they go round and round, without actually stating or breaking cases.
I did my homework and my communication is clear and testable, not just an emotional statement. I could be wrong in this or many things, but anyone can examine my lines of reasoning and inspect for failure points.
It appears my approach is sound. The online Islamists typically try to go forward by ignoring my rebuttals, evidence and reasoning.
Which is bogus.
It appears the carpet pilot narratives are profoundly broken, and also that my counter-narratives actually win pretty consistently.
Looks to me that Islam CANNOT win by argument, but ONLY by force. I work hard to be very dangerous in my arguments. To fight and defeat someone in argument – or in war – you have to Know Your Enemy.
( Sorry if I’m wordy. I’m seriously invested in this debate. )
Which bring us right back to rock and roll, of course.
Green Day: “Know Your Enemy” – [Official Video]
Mark says
Actually choudray lies about shariah….. how wonderfull it will be for everyone blah blah.
Jeremiah says
The war against Islam is not that complicated.
1. We are fighting Islam, not Muslims. We should not fight all Muslims.
2. Islam is an ideology based on the trilogy of the Koran, the Hadith and the Surra.
3. Islam is taught in mosques and Islamic education facilities around the world.
4. Terrorists attend mosques and Islamic education facilities. They are sustained by their organizations. They breed there. They are funded there. They use mosques to hide weapons. They use the religious structure for command and control.
Close the Mosques.
When we close mosques and education centers, jail radical preachers and investigate the remaining teachers, that will starve Islam at it roots. It is a relatively simple task to close mosques in Western nations:
Islam is not a true religion. Islam is not a religion as we might define (or assume) in legislation. There is no altruism in Islam as displayed by other religions. It does not consider the welfare of others as its prime goal or even the moral health of the individual. A little analysis would provide a clear case that Islam is not a religion and has no such status anywhere in the world. It can therefore be banned and/or denied public support and denied favorable tax treatment.
Furthermore, Islam is subversive of the constitution of any nation in that it requires its adherents to replace existing law with sharia. It is also subversive of cultures, values, etc. Therefore it can probably be banned under existing laws.
The immediate concern is about what the reaction might be to closing mosques. Causing terrorists to come out into the open is dangerous but it allows us to fight them and to defeat them once and for all. We must engage the enemy. We are not doing that now because it requires political guts.
Closing mosques is politically incorrect but it is essential for survival. Islam will always keep coming at us in jihad because it is written. In addition, the example of Mohammad is pedophilia and genocide. We need to rid this political nightmare from the face of this earth or it will take us down. 1400 years of terror, piracy and slavery is enough.
kay says
Re 1.2,3,4
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TRUTH.
Re: “When we close mosques and education centers, jail radical preachers and investigate the remaining teachers, that will starve Islam at it roots. It is a relatively simple task to close mosques in Western nations.”
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There are fundamental rights issues. And therefore serious process issues. HOWEVER, ANY organization that attempts specific violence, insurrection or treason is violating the national law and the most basic social contract.
If such an organization claims to be religious ( which is half of Islamic culture ), then that changes nothing on the basic level.
Why? Because treason is treason. Because murder is murder, and attempted murder is attempted murder, and slavery is slavery. And there are strict objective laws for these in the West.
Islam is a Clearly Defined culture of slavery, rape, war, destruction of all basic human rights. And it has a very definite and consistent track record of brutal sociopathy and psychopathy. All that is fully documented in the Andrew Bostom books. Nobody anywhere can break Bostom.
Jeremiah, this is a really good post so I thank you and affirm what you say.
The refinement is that it is NOT possible to close the mosques in general.
But it is still necessary to monitor, investigate, and prosecute and neutralize the Known Bad Guy mosques. And any suspect mosques.
Several things are critically important right now. And one of these is for the Law Of The Land to go after possible and actual bad guy mosques. That is defense of society and the primary obligation of civil government.
Any school or madrassa that teaches kids to “kill the infidels” must be summarily shut down for explicit Incitement. And those who explicitly teach such incitement must be jailed for conspiracy to murder.
No more Mr. Nice Guy. It is time to apply the law in order to defend society.
In summary, ti is necessary to smash Political Islam by any legal, police, or military means as required.
Political Islam means Islamic theocracy. It is defined by Dr. Bill Warner at
http://www.politicalislam.com
The goal is simple. The goal is not to simply mitigate the effects of Political Islam. The goal is to SMASH Political Islam. This is what patriots and even just decent people do. Political Islam is a murderous knife held to the throat of the body politic.
Political Islam is a criminal gang that knows no reasonable laws and which has no respect for humanity anywhere.
The basic approach is to formally and strategically confront Political Islam as a dangerous gang of fascist sociopaths and psychopaths. Anyone who defends Political Islam or works on their behalf is in effect a traitor to society and to civilization. Or a literal traitor.
The question is: Who is the traitor, in what sense, and is that legally actionable? Or just socially actionable?
Saudi Arabia has the legal right to fund and build mosques in the United States. And the American courts or police have the legal right to shut down any or all of those which are criminal and treasonous. By due process. That is only fair.
It’s all about being fair.
“I was taught to love the law, the poetry of its fairness, the beauty of its intent…”
kay says
Change:
“consistent track record of brutal sociopathy and psychopathy.”
To
“consistent long term track record of large scale and programmatic bloodthirsty aggression and fascist oppression. All of which which is brutally and characteristically sociopathic and/or psychopathic.”
Mark says
All muslims are fighing us either physically or lying to disguise.
steve says
So, take them somewhere and shoot them. somebody will have to eventually….
Angemon says
Warned or promised?
Truth says
So what you’re saying is that the UK is a breeding ground for Muslim terrorism?
Jeremiah says
More specifically, every mosque in every nation is a breeding ground for jihadis, sharia and extortion. Name one that isn’t? Then post that name on here.
Mark says
Indeed, do people expect mosques to be teaching budhism?
All mosques teach islam thats it…. all mosques are therefore evil.