Mosques in the West, we are told on pain of charges of “Islamophobia,” are all “moderate,” and none of them teach jihad hatred and violence. And this true, except when it isn’t. Mosques should be monitored as a matter of national security.
“‘Isis cell operating out of Winterthur mosque,'” The Local, November 18, 2015 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
The Isis (Islamic State) jihadist group has been operating a cell from the city of Winterthur, northeast of Zurich, according to a Swiss war correspondent and expert on Syria.
Kurt Pelda, was who was named Swiss journalist of the year in 2014, told local newspaper Der Landbote the terrorist group established the cell around the An’Nur mosque in Winterthur’s Hegi neighbourhood.
“A man from Winterthur became radicalized in the last few months and recently travelled to Syria,” Pelda said.
“We do not know exactly what he has done in Syria but there is every indication it has to do with Isis.”
This follows reports of four other young people travelling from the city to Syria.
Pelda told Der Landbote he believes someone is masterminding the cell from the mosque, “let there be no doubt”. He added: “There is a whole bunch of preachers and prayer leaders who actively meet in the mosque or outside with young people and trying to radicalize them.”
However, Atef Sahoun, president of the An’Nur Islamic Cultural Association, denied such activity was occurring.
“If we discover radical tendencies in one member then the particular person will be immediately excluded,” he told Der Landbote.
“We send them away, no matter who it is.”
Pelda, however, said he plans to publish research on the Isis activity in the coming days….

Don McKellar says
Now, now. Just because a few dozen mosques here and there — okay maybe a hundred or two fully documented in the modern, advanced world over the past few years — are with the jihad program doesn’t mean they all are! Just because the Islamic texts teach violence and hate for unbelievers doesn’t mean that all Islamic mosques are doing so. Talk about Islamophobia!
Jura says
Funny point about islam is – whoever teaches quran in moderate westernized sense is either an apostate or deceiver in the sense of taqiya doctrine.
There can not be any reformation in islam – separation of theocracy and state like in Christianity since the enlightenment. Islam was not founded as a personal faith but as a state ideology of Mohameds Medinan islamic state.
There is only one conclusion: either islam conquers the whole world, or collapses.
Don McKellar says
Well I don’t know about it collapsing. For quite a few period of history, Islam existed like a benign tumor on the world, relegated to the backwater rat holes of the world. LIke a benign tumor, chunks of it were cut out, but unfortunately with the influx of oil money in the last third of the 20th Century (all completely a result of the work of outside non-moslems) the tumor became malignant and eventually we have the ugly situation we have today. If one thinks of Islam like a tumor shifting between benign and malignant, spreading when it can, retracting when fought, it describes the nature of its existence through history pretty well. I recommend intense radiation therapy, pinpointed on one spot to destroy this cancer’s DNA. That’s really all that it would take to make the whole cancerous disease actually collapse.
manuel paleologus says
Islamophobia does not define any hatred against Islam. Islam wants to annihilate anything else. Islam has to be terminated and by saying this I do not consider myself a Muslims enemy. There are good people among them also, but as a cult Islam goes against humanity. Since the 7th century Islam is just killing people and nations.
Thanks God for the great Christian kings and prices who stopped them through the centuries.
Islam is not a religion and their God is not same as the Judeo-Christian God. A God does not ask his faithful to kill those who do share the same faith.
The Western World must be awaken until a nuclear conflagration will be start and the apocalyptic fate of humankind will come.
Dr. Divinity says
One more gazillions reasons that ALL mosques should be monitored…Their book of hate teaches terrorism..I don,t find anywhere in the NewTestament where Jesus tells me terrorism or kill anyone.Their book does. So that should make it plain enough to our governments that mosques should be monitored and take away their religious rights they don’t deserve these rights if they follow the teachings set forth in the Koran. Classify them as a CULT. For that is exactly what they are but our government won’t do this then all Muslims should be required to register on a data base and should be profiled.WHY,profiled??? Same old story most muslims aren’t terrorist but most terrorists are Muslims. Nuf said
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Sh. N. says
Do you know the special place where imam stands for prayer is called , محراب , “mehraab?”
Do you know what that means ?
It means the place for war. And it means war against there is a place for war against Satan as well as physical enemies.
The very first mosques during the very first days of establishing Islamic state by the prophet himself acted as military bases. Study the Hijrah’s history and you will find out yourself. Mosques are the main establishments for fighting against unbelievers from their start. It is not surprising if they still work as they have been planned to.
kikorikid says
Mosques, like guns, are inanimate objects and just sit until used by a human.
It is the “IMAM’S” within the Mosques that “Call to Jihad”.
mortimer says
Islamic STUDY GROUPS are the means used to radicalize. Find the study groups: find the radicals.
In Islamic study groups, they study the SOURCE TEXTS OF ISLAM, rather than listen to OPINIONS or INTERPRETATIONS of the source texts. In other words, they interpret the source texts LITERALLY…the same way as they have through the 1400 years of Islam until recently. Only in the last 100 years have Muslims tried to DOWNPLAY jihad…under the influence of THE BRITISH EMPIRE in India…in order to keep a LID on the violence, rather than because Muslims believed the ‘moderate’ version. They never did. They always believed in the obligation of warfare against the infidels until victory.
boakai ngombu says
and NOW, for those in the group who vary from the literal, they are corrected (occasionally brutally) to maintain unity, consistency and no variation, else the allah god of islam (unknowable; the best of all deceivers) will frown and rant and be generally angered, it being malevolent and belligerent, for it cannot change, and so drive its slaves to fear its wrath
gravenimage says
Mortimer wrote:
Islamic STUDY GROUPS are the means used to radicalize. Find the study groups: find the radicals.
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Mortimer, you’ve said this many times before–but I’m not at all sure why you think organized Islamic study groups are somehow the key. They don’t even appear to be all that common.
The fact is that Muslims learn their foul creed in many ways–at home, in the Mosque, at Madrassah, from their thug buddies, from the “community”, from Imams’ Kutbahs (Islamic “sermons”), from influential Jihadi leaders like the still-popular Anwar al-Awlaki, on-line, from Jihadi videos, and from reading the Qur’an and Hadith and following the model of the horrific “Prophet”.
mezcukor says
I agree with you but There are also the prayer centers
dumbledoresarmy says
And the madrasas, the “Islamic schools” that have popped up all over the West, and in other non-Muslim countries (non-Western) with large Muslim colonies.
Ayaan Hirsi Ali, ex-Muslim and atheist, told the Dutch government, the UK government, the American government, even – if I recall correctly – the Australian government – to NOT PERMIT the establishment of “Islamic faith schools”.
She stated that they were an entirely different kettle of fish from the ‘faith-based’ schools these governments were already familiar with – whether Jewish or Christian. The Muslim ‘faith-based schools’ were uniquely dangerous, and they should not be permitted.
That was a good many years ago; and * nobody* listened….
Besides mosques, schools/ madrasas, and ‘prayer centres’, Islamic bookshops can also be foci for Jihad recruitment and incitement. In my own country, Australia, at least two Islamic bookshops have been associated with jihad plots and plotters.
? says
1. All of these jihadists share the same motivation
2. All of these jihadists motivation comes from the same book
3. Many imams are preaching hate and violence
4. Many jihadists take the Koran and their imams seriously and literally
5. Jihadists come from these kinds of mosques
Logically, it seems that the root of the problem is not the jihadists themselves but rather where they came from–these mosques.
In this case this mosque is actually with ISIS and there have to be other mosques linked to this one why aren’t they raided? Why aren’t the ring leaders and their associates history’s looked into? Why aren’t these imams arrested, deported and blacklisted?
Doctors do not cure cancer by treating the symptoms.
R Cole says
And a minaret to tower over Switzerland’s iconic church steeples to go with their invading mentality!
Politically Europe is changing.
The once fringe political party that held the ‘minaret referendum’ won the most seats – in a recent Swiss election.
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Muslims have a place to do what they want – where it violates the rights of others and that is the Islamic world.
No more excuses should be made.
And most certainly westerners should not be blamed for the way Muslim chose to conduct themselves.
gravenimage says
Yes–Switzerland has been one of the few places to ban minarets. Now we just have to see if this commonsense ban holds.
خَليفة says
Not surprised. Mosques are multi-purpose buildings – prayer, store weapons, train jihadis, dig tunnels, build bombs, hideout fir jihadis, outposts to stage army for attack.
Unlike churches, temples, synagogues – mosques are not “sacred” ( used for one purpose, i.e. Worshiping God ).
Any mosque used for “subversive” activity should be torn down.
خَليفة says
“we send them away no matter…”
Yup, when any Muslim shows too much violent tendencies we send them away…. For more advanced jihad training…
Much like feces or rotting flesh, Taqyia has its own uniquely putrid smell…
underbed cat says
The the jihadist and the supporting moderate muslims, must have training camps for deception. Nice suits, slow speech, degrees resolute double speak, calm in the face of alternate facts, and the ability to lie without flinching….they have it down to a science.
underbed cat says
Muslims know that Mo used mosques to store weapons….
Also know that mosque building is a civilization jihad. That mosque and land around it are now muslim land even if in Kansas or Texas or Oklahoma. They will use outreach to jails and convert, to drug addicts and convert, to churches to decieve and will cry victims of scrutiny. The population migration and aftermath of population explosion,(do to multiple wives and children) under the guise of refugees, it is not the Christians that Ob is letting come in to the U.S. or Europe (who have been slaughtered), they would serve no purpose…they want muslims to arrive at the borders in hordes, large massive numbers, not just woman and children, young soildier age men and plenty of them. The moderates, professional will decry you cannot do to muslim refugees what you won’t do to other groups…..why because other groups are not jihadist, martyrs, and want to die for allah…..if they do they also will be restricted.
underbed cat says
H you appear to know nothing about islam, you better crack open the books and stop listening to those who misdirect you no matter how charming, check out the doctrine….it is your duty to know, what apparently you have no clue after 9/11 what the motive really had to do with that which you defend.
underbed cat says
Once a curious person reads the koran, which is the core of islam,and finds out it is a religious obligation to press hard against the nonbeliever to convert or die, it shows how necessary it is to mislead Americans about this duty, to fight and kill for allah. Mo, hundred of years ago used the mosques now called islamic learning centers to prepare for warfare by storing weapons, training, and as shelter from intrusion. It is a logical question to ask, do mosques belong here.? Can the U.S. really allow a subversive ideology to prevail by deception, feigning as a religion and establish roots in our nation? Does our constiution allow this? No it does not. But that problem is covered by misdirection, permissible lying and a money flow, and slick political ads, diversity and hate speech. So for the last 40 or so years they have been working to achieve a cover so no one would be the wiser.
Raja says
Cat,
You are smart as a cat.
BTW, who said the Muslims are not good in science? They have mastered lying, deceit to science. You are right
خَليفة says
Islamic science is a joke. Females make sperm in ribs, earth is flat like a pizza, sun orbits around earth. What makes a cotton burn when placed near a flame? Not the flame, Allah sends an angel to cause it to be consumed. It’s all there in the Hadith.
Islamic science does not include “natural laws” which are the foundation of western science, and blatantly obvious to anyone with a bit of learning. When I went to school my science instructors would teach just enough so students could make a next logical step on their own, then teacher would give the formal name of theory and progress- many pupils feel like they made discovery on their own ( even though someone in past already did it ) This was taught this way so pupils learn to build on the theories ( natural laws ) they know to increase their understanding of the natural world. This type of learning is nowhere to be found in Islamic texts, in fact, Islam discourages this type of learning.
Recall Muhammed was illerate, and the “ideal” Muslim. So educated Muslims don’t make good Muslims – this is obvious to outsiders – the main reaston people leave Islam is they read the Quran or biography of Muhammed. When they learn the truth, they leave.
Georg says
“If we discover radical tendencies… [we] send them away, no matter who it is.”
Yes. Send them away to Switzerland a llah Syria. Thanks, but no thanks.
*POP QUIZ* What leader said this?
“The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers.”
Hint: It wasn’t Osama bin Laden.
Cecilia Ellis says
I know! I know! It was Erdogan, the Prime Minister of Turkey., Do I get a ham sandwich?
Georg says
Nicely done. You definitely deserve a ham sandwich!
gravenimage says
Thanks for posting that salient quote, Geog. Beat me to the punch.
Hope says
I attend a Protestant church and our doors are wide open to all, every Sunday. Take a little jaunt down to your local mosque or “Islamic Center” some time and ask if you can go in. Betcha anything you won’t be allowed to attend the service.
Mahendra Singh says
Fifteen centuries ago Mohammad, the Caravan driver saw the beauty of then Byzantine
Jerusalem, and immediately thought of a plan to grab it without shedding any blood. So
he circulated among his followers an account that that he had visited the Prophets and Allah
himself, reaching paradise that was then situated right above the city, transported by a white
horse. Mind you Mohammad did not set his foot there after he attained prophethood.
Likewise, some Muslim jerk will circulate the news that Paradise has shifted to right over Winterthur,
and it is thus declared a “holy city” of the Mohamdens. Watch out. They are still claiming Spain, India,
Australia (why, the first non-aborgine to set foot there was a Muslim, was he not?), the Balkans, and some more.
Jon says
It was actually a winged donkey that carried him in his sleep to Jerusalem to which his infant wife stated he never left the bed
Jura says
“We send them away, no matter who it is”
How is it possible to deport a Syrian or Iraqi citizen, when there is a war going on?
The conventions do not allow that.
The only solution is not to allow them in.
wjsonl says
Islam is an evil ideology with the primary objective to destroy our culture. To control Islam, we must:
1) Ban Islam from the US.
2) Tear down all mosques.
3) If you want to continue to be a Muslim, then you must leave this country and go to a country where Islam is allowed. If you won’t leave, then you will be deported.
4) Enforce no nukes in Iran, North Korea, and any country not supposed to have nukes according to the non-proliferation treaty of decades ago. Inspections will be done by the US, not the UN.
Carolyne says
I welcome being called an Islamophobe. I consider it sort of a badge of honor. It means that I care for my family, my country and my culture, to the exclusion of any barbarian theology.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Why monitor the mosques at all?!
Islam is a monolithic crime-creed, with instructions in their war and crime-manual applying to all aspect of their holy mobster “muslim” minions’ lives. Its management is not a top-down affair.
Each and every one of them knows their obligations to the tribe and knows they are at war with us.
Would we bother to separately arrest and try each and every individual member of a crime-gang or ARMY which had officially declared war on us and was openly attacking us?!