The German government, and the MSM, are now colluding to defame PEGIDA and the PI blog. They now habitually call both Nazi, and are doing their best to prosecute both under some pretext.
We can be sure that the rest of Europe, as well the USA, will do everything to assist. None of them can allow the Great Islamic Project in the West, the child of Saudi Arabia, and the death of Christianity in the West, to come to an end.
The West has succeeded in the virtual extinction of Christianity in the Middle East, so see no reason why the more important aspect, its death in the West, should not be undertaken.
One can translate the above link to English using Google.
Rogersays
Yep, thanks for your post. I have been ridiculed by some on here for stating that in my belief leaders of all anti islamist groups in Germany will be dragged through the courts or rounded up in dawn raids in the coming weeks.
The authorities will cite public safety concerns for the arrests.
Just look at Le Pen and Wilders, they are being dragged through the courts as we speak.
DP111says
Look what happened to Serbia and ex-Yugoslavia. Their leaders were demonised by the entire MSM of the West, as worse then Nazis. Why? Because they didnt wish for the Islamisation of their country.
That poor nation, was then bombed by NATO, till it capitulated. Their leaders dragged through the kangaroo court at the Hague, never really tried before an unbiased jury, and were lefy to rot in jail, till thei died.
All this was done at the behest of Saudi Arabia. I distinctly remember secretary of of state Albright making an urgent trip to SA to confer with her masters, before the final ultimatum to Milosovitch.
I suggest that Hungaroian PM Orban restores his links to Russia. His blatant act of stating that Hungary was a Christian country, has not gone down well with the rogues and traitors in power.
fritz99says
Merkel warned the Balkan more or less for a new war!
„Ich möchte nicht, dass dort wieder militärische Auseinandersetzungen notwendig werden.“ Und weiter: „Ich will jetzt nicht schwarzmalen. Aber es geht schneller als man denkt, dass aus Streit auch Handgreiflichkeiten werden und aus Handgreiflichkeiten dann auch Dinge entstehen, die wir alle nicht wollen.“
That is nonsense claim. Serianb fascists(former communist Milosevic, Karadzic and Mladic) wanted to RULE the ENTIRE Yugoslavia and had first attacked Slovenia and Croatia.
That had NOTHYING to do with Serbs fighintin Isla,as Bosnian Muslims were totally secularized and considered more of a nationality than religion. In former Communist Yugoslavia, very few people went to churches of mosques, as religion was considered under Marxism as “an opiate of the masses”.
The foolish European Union and UN watched in 1992 how Serbian fascists incited and by Miltoseevic, Karadzic and Mladic had been raping Muslim and Croatian women and murdering Muslim men and youngsters in Bosnia (Srebrenica)…
Then some jihadis came from the Arab world and started helping secular Muslimsin Bosnia to fight back. Many of those jihadis stayed and married Bosnian women and are now slowly radicalizing Bosnian Muslim youth in mosques built by the Muslim oil money as are mosques all over Europe.
Do not mix the -Serbian fascists and those who fight for freedom for ALL people, such as Pegida movement.
100% correct. The govt must not let the critics of Islam gain momentum. That is the govt’s priority.
Jeremiahsays
Demonstrations are a Jihad against Rape, Extortion and Deception. Our leaders slander us. Our leaders defame us. Our leaders lied to get in and they want to lie to stay in power. Our leaders brand protests as a war against “refugees”. Our leaders are traitors. We tell the truth while Islam commits deception to invade, to rape, to demand benefits they don’t deserve and to rape the nations which opened its borders. Ask your neighbors if they know somebody who has been raped by a muslim and ask them to join. Keep telling the truth. Kick the leaders out as early as possible. Keep your guns and buy more. It will become more violent.
Angemonsays
DP111 posted:
“The German government, and the MSM, are now colluding to defame PEGIDA and the PI blog. They now habitually call both Nazi”
Chuck Todd is a news anchor here in the U.S. and he gave Dr Ben Carson a bad time for talking about how Germany was disarmed when Hitler was in power and the reason Hitler was able to do what he did was that nobody could fight back. Dr Carson was referring to why the battle over gun control is wrong. We Americans will never give up our second amendment right. It’s not about hunting deer with an AK-47, it’s about the ability to defend ourselves from tyranny. Most of our news agencies suck up every word obama spouts out. It seems they are actually so stupid they cannot see what is happening right before their eyes. Bootlicking cowards when it comes to Islam but not a word is spoken when Christians are killed. It’s despicable. I worry for Israel but take comfort they are God’s chosen people and He will protect them. We cannot get obama out of office soon enough, he’s either a closet muslam, a dhimmy or lost his mental faculties for rational reasoning. I pray for Europe and you’ll get through this without losing your country. I’m sorry those political islamists have no peace, just hate. God Bless You all and may you stay out of harms way.
Shmooviyetsays
Agreed- BHO appears to have more than one screw loose– he is in near-full meltdown mode.
One of the most despicable acts was a year-late letter of appreciation sent from the WH to the OK mosque of the ‘recent converted’ beheader Alton Nolan (sp?), for aid provided after a tornado the previous summer. I still have not seen the letter of condolence to the husband of Colleen Hufford.
Of course that savagery was about ‘racism’ and business and had NTDWI.
Alansays
Why can`t we organise a similar demonstration in the UK?
It must be possible to make arrangements to exclude the drunks and thugs.
A majority of people in this country (the silent majority) are sick and tired of the
sycophantic kowtowing to militant Islam and the changing face of out towns and
cities.
We must start to register our feelings in meetings and on the street.
Cameron`s government is weak,spineless and cannot be relied upon to
protect this country from encroaching Islam
The Labour Party is pitiable and pathetic in it`s hysterical humanitarian
response to the current crisis
Cameron will change his stance and bow to pressure to allow even more Islamists
into the UK.
We are living in the 21st century,we do not need the the brutal standards of the
7th century applying here.
Martysays
In the UK the single most powerful source of political info i
s the BBC.
Its influence is greater than the Murdoch press, Sky News
& ITV News combined.
Anyone who resists islam is branded “right wing”, “racist” ”
islamophobic” etc. by the BBC.
That’s why every cop, social worker, etc stood by & watched
mohammedans seduce, drug addict, gang rape & prostitute
our girls in Rotherham & many other places.
Your career is over if you’re even accused of racism.
Miao Zedongsays
“It must be possible to make arrangements to exclude the drunks and thugs.A majority of people in this country (the silent majority) are sick and tired of the..”
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I don’t know the situation in the UK. In Germany, people attending “Pegida” are mostly peaceful. However, that is not going to help much if the government tolerates violence from the left-extremist (Antifa). I’m talking of serious violence that sooner or later will lead to more than “just” the occasional crippled bystander. YES, it’s that violent.
That alone will deter the concerned families to participate and I’m thinking why not gather once in a month or even just every 3 months in safe places (indoor) and register the head count to raise the awareness that people are not alone ? People who want a change and see that they really count and number.
Even then I would expect attacks on such places but that would clearly single out the aggressors, which is not possible in melees in the street.
By the way I wonder why BBC gets away with using “Asian” to label violent groups that are black, caucasion or really asians. That’s racist slander against all Asians….
Mirren10says
Alan, contact Paul Weston at LibertyGB with your ideas.
Were they all known to each other beforehand, or had most of them simply found out about it somehow – social media? – and gone along? And when they were there, were they conversing? Swapping notes? Arranging to meet again?
I hope that those seventy people *did* decide to do it again. And again and again and again, and tell others.
Post scriptum.
I would encourage Britons to go off and join the Royal Society of St George, and then acquire the Cross of St George flag and fly it (the Society has a fly-the-flag campaign going). And you can’t be accused of being racist or right-wing, if you’re a member of the Society, because guess what? – Her Majesty the Queen is the official Patron of the Royal Society of Saint George.
The Society – to judge from its website – is a nice old-fashioned patriotic society, and is all about promoting the best of English culture. It’s about historical and civilisational awareness. Jihad-aware Englishmen and women should join it en masse…and transform it into an avenue for resistance, for consciousness-raising.
Of course, if you’re a Scot you can fly the Cross of Saint Andrew, and if Welsh, the Pendragon, the red dragon of Gwent. Along with the Union Jack.
This may sound trivial, but little things can become a symbol of resistance.
If Christian, there are possible avenues for networking and visibly retaking ‘turf’ – one such is the old custom of “Beating the Bounds” – suggest it to the nearest rector; a newer practice is that of ‘prayer walking’, and ‘walk of witness’. Ringing church bells at every possible excuse.
Celebration of Guy Fawkes’ Day also offers many possibilities; use your imagination.
Keep an eye on the website of the British Pakistani Christian Association; they have held rallies and demonstrations outside both Downing St and the Pakistani High Commission, focusing on Islamic Pakistan’s horrible treatment of its non-Muslim minorities. This sort of occasion offers opportunities to stand up and be counted, publicly condemn Islamic atrocities, and potentially form alliances and meet like-minded people…and *educate* those who may be aware of a problem but not necessarily yet have the Big Picture.
Likewise, keep an eye out for any pro-Israel demonstrations, rallies or Events, whether held by the Jewish community or by their friends. Those, too, offer a chance to network, identify allies, and often awareness-raise because not everybody understands exactly *why* the Arabs/ Muslims are so hellbent on attacking and destroying Israel/ Jews.
Rajasays
Thank you dumbledoresarmy for a very useful post. Hope it is useful to lots of people.
Mirren10says
”Celebration of Guy Fawkes’ Day also offers many possibilities; use your imagination”
We’re having our annual bonfire night tomorrow, dda. Again, the guy will be mohammed, and the touchfire for the bonfire will be pages from the koran.
The Saltaire, the Cross of St. George, *and* the flag of the Parachute Regiment will be flying from our flagpole !
NFSE !
Sile Drapersays
Go for it!
Jay Boosays
German auto maker Volkswagen tried to fool us into buying its cars by hiding pollution of 11 million vehicles.
Merkel wants to do the same with 11 million Muslims.
Jay Boosays
Know our enemy.
Islam may be uniquely evil but Muslims are not.
They are just people, nothing more.
Muslims are not monsters nor are Muslims even sub-human.
Yes, they marry their cousins, but still.
They are just people.
They have no super powers.
But they are as a whole, a clear and present danger to our society and we do not have the time or luxury to hope that a few will turn solidly against Islam while the majority, statistically do not.
All immigrants should at least be required to take a loyalty oath as a minimum. Better that no Muslims be allowed in, if possible.
Many of the arriving Muslims are not even screened.
Infidelasays
Excellent post.
Joe Gardnersays
Take a loyalty oath? You can force them do so all you want, doesn’t mean they will stick to it. Think of it like marriage. You can take a vow to be together for ever, doesn’t mean that vow will stick. Best thing to do is just start forcing them out and back to the sands upon which they came.
Michael Copelandsays
The Times Square would-be bomber, whose car bomb failed to explode, was reminded at his trial that he had taken the Oath of Allegiance at his naturalization ceremony. His reply?
“I sweared but I did not mean it.”
Unfortunately taqiyya makes Oaths of no effect.
Mirren10says
Exactly.
How could we ever trust what a muslim said ? A loyalty oath would be utterly pointless.
Maybe we could make them draw a cartoon of mohammed ….
No. They’d just lie again. Better not to let any more of them in, **at all**, and keep all the mosques under 24/7 surveillance. Any suspicious activity, send them off to Syria, annul passports, declare them exiles, and never, ever, let them back in.
*And* stop **all** welfare benefits. One of the big reasons they’re coming is benefits. Make it known they won’t get any. *All* European countries should be doing this. I guarantee there would be a huge drop in all these able bodied, young male cowards demanding entry.
mahghansays
Murderers and rapists are just people too. Right. The issue how can a normal person adhere to a belief system founded by a rapist, brigand, murder and slave holder? That person just cannot be normal.
mahghansays
Murderers and rapists are just people too. Right. The issue how can a normal person adhere to a belief system founded by a rapist, brigand, murder and slave holder? That person just cannot be normal.
Where have I said that?
boakai ngombusays
But they are as a whole, a clear and present danger to our society and we do not have the time or luxury to hope that a few will turn solidly against Islam while the majority, statistically do not.
let’s hope the leadership recognizes this, otherwise that “newly” completed cathedral – reconstructed from out of the rubble WWII – will be turned into a mosque
boakai ngombusays
excuse … meant for Jay Boo’s comment above
Rajasays
It appears that these marches are already too late. You have a monster who wants bulk votes from cheap labor and wants to window dress / show cause Germany as a role model for rest of Europe.
On the other hand you have man on the street feeling suffocated like a wild buffalo when torn apart by a dozen hyena.
It is a queer world and queerer is Germany thanks to an evil leader Merkel.
ensituesays
The German PPL now have an opportunity to atone for the horrors of WW2 by sacrificing themselves in an effort to save Europe from an even worse fate then that of the Jews. Many will die and be maimed in this effort as the current NAZI, Merkel unleashes her minions against he own nation but this must be done if Europe and the West is to survive. The alternative is a plunge into an age of utter darkness that has not been seen since the Bronze Age
mortimersays
Militant Muslims are the new Nazis and ISIS is the new Third Reich, but Merkel can’t see it.
Peggysays
What makes you think she can’t see it?
She’s heading it.
Jeremiahsays
Dresden was such a nice city. Now they have mosques . . . All they need to do is take down the mosques and nobody gets hurt
Myxlpliksays
The precedent being set is, those who are peaceful don’t actually have a reportable, or addressable grievance.
Rioting jihad murderers have a grievance according to the status quo being set by the press and western governments.
The rule is set, might makes right.
niftysays
did anyone here what they were shouting?
mortimersays
Thanks, Marc. This is good news that PEGIDA is growing.
Hoping it will spread to North America. In Quebec, the Marxists organized to intimidate PEGIDA. Maybe next time, they will have a larger crowd.
Protest of this scale is not lost on politicians. We must march to be heard.
Jeremiahsays
Yes plenty of time for waiting until the next election. Another million or so combatants makes no difference to a society teetering on the edge. The only reason we have good demonstrations is because it is too late. The death throws of a number of nations. Wake up and do something if you wan to survive.
richiesays
Those protesting the Islamic hoardes are not Nazis-but Muslims may actually unite the real fascist neo Nazis and nationalists and see the resurrection of the Nazi party.
dumbledoresarmysays
Two ideas for the PEGIDA people (just in case anyone from PEGIDA or thinking of joining the movement, is looking over my shoulder).
First: in another few weeks it will be Advent.
Step up your marches. And…at *every* march, SING. Sing **Christmas carols**…the lovely traditional carols for which Germany is famous. Sing the ones that everybody knows, the ones that people still learn in childhood. It will be very difficult for the media to frame you as Nazis if you are singing Christian carols. (very hard to do so, also, if you are simply carrying crosses!).
I see that some are already carrying crosses. This is an excellent idea, because it shows the Muslims that you are not Dhimmis. Dhimmis were NOT allowed to publicly display crosses; they were not allowed to hold religious processions in public where Muslims could see them; they were not allowed to sing their religious songs loudly where Muslims could hear them; and they were not allowed to ring church bells. Further – sharia forbids ‘stringed instruments and flutes’.
Sooo…take along *handbells* and ring them (I was at an Oktoberfest ‘do’ here in Australia, and I saw that there are traditional German songs that are accompanied by handbells). *Sing the traditional Christmas carols* loud and clear. Play guitars, play fiddles, play on the flute, play folk-dances! It will build morale, it will – if you do it right – sound lovely and *look* lovely, and it will tell the Muslims: we are not Dhimmis, and we will NOT observe your horrible sharia rules about music, or crosses, or singing Christian songs, or any songs.
Second – here’s my other idea – every person who attends should **carry white roses**, whether real or artificial or painted on a banner or made into a coronet or a necklace or a wrist-band or a buttonhole. You want to invoke the memory of Sophie Scholl and the original White Rose Society who denounced and resisted the Third Reich.
Susanne Zeller-Hirzel, who was a member of the original White Rose society, joined the Resistance against Islamisation, when she was a very old lady, only a few years before her death. Because, just as when, in her teenage years, she recognised Nazism as evil, in her *old age* she read the ex-Muslim Mark Gabriel, his book “Islam and Terrorism”, and recognised ISLAM as evil , as something she had to speak up against, warn people about.
Carry the White Rose. Re-form the White Rose Society.
Think about it. The media come along to cover your demonstration, and they don’t see even one Swastika – instead they see a sea of white roses, and crosses, and candles, and they hear people singing, “Es ist ein Ros entsprungen…” and “In dulce jubilo” and “Stille Nacht, heilige Nacht”. Or even singing choruses from Bach .can you find anybody who can do *that*?
Try to think of ways to ‘throw’ them, to go against their ‘script’ in unexpected ways.
dumbledoresarmysays
Here is an article with the text of an interview with Susanne Zeller-Hirzel, which was done before her death.
Wednesday, 30 September 2009
The White Rose: An Interview with Mrs. Susanne Zeller- Hirzel
Here is the concluding portion of that interview:
“Adams: You are now involved in the “Peoples Movement PAX EUROPA” (BPE) in Germany. We understand this to be one of the more important anti-Jihad organizations in Germany. What prompted you to get involved in the anti-Islamist movement?
“Zeller – Hirzel: I read many, many books on the subject; especially the books by Mark Gabriel (see “Islam and Terrorism”).
“So I realized that one must not simply accept these things passively but also do something about it. One must support this cause by necessity.
{Think about that. She was a very old lady, in her eighties. And yet she heard the trumpet ring out, again, calling her; and she stood up, to do what she could, in her final years – dda)
“Adams: Do you see similarities between Islam and Nazism? If so, what are these similarities?
“Zeller – Hirzel: The fanaticism, the absolute claim of possessing the only truth and the spiritual simplicity are very similar between Islam and the Nazism.
“Adams: Do you view opposing Islamization as the same battle you were fighting when the White Rose fought Nazism?
“Zeller – Hirzel: Not quite yet. Critics of the Nazi ideology were then immediately arrested. We have not yet reached that point. But if we do nothing, it will come back to that. Then they might lock up the critics of Islam.
“Adams: In your view why is it so difficult to explain the threat of Islamization to the public? What is stopping us from getting our message across to the public? What can we do better?
“Zeller – Hirzel: The general indifference to religious matters make it difficult. The public believes we to have to be “fair” to everyone. That is counterproductive. Additionally, there is general prosperity with a relatively high standard of living that makes people lazy. I say: Only education can help. Education can aid.
“Adams: What is the best way to approach a person who knows nothing about Islam? How do we build a base of support among people so that we are never in the desperate position that entrapped you, Sophie and the heroes of the White Rose resistance group?
“Zeller – Hirzel: As I said before: Education!
“We need to conduct neighborhood meetings, community and church events. The distress in the population is indeed there, but apparently not big enough.
“”Hitler is the scourge of God,” once said Robert Scholl, Sophie’s father. But he was then promptly convicted.
“Adams: When you and your colleagues of the White Rose were leafleting in Munich and elsewhere, did you believe that the population could be converted to anti-Hitlerism?
“Zeller – Hirzel: Yes, we really believed that. We actually thought we could move public opinion. Even if it happened to be in vain, we tried it before history. And yet we were afraid. The very few supporters we had were scared. We were afraid of death sentences, meted out by Freisler’s People’s Court, afraid of his screaming. But screaming is also a weakness.
“Adams: We know that the memory of Sophie Scholl, you and your colleagues is held in great esteem across the world by lovers of freedom and justice. How best do we motivate people today to fight against the Islamization of Europe and the West?
“Zeller – Hirzel: I think something terrible needs to happen before Germans awaken.
“9/11 was too far away from the German people.
“The churches fail miserably in the task of informing people about Islamic ideology.
“That can only happen through grassroots activism, education and instruction.
“Even if in Europe the churches play an increasingly smaller social role, the people ought to be agitating in church institutions, in the parishes and so forth.
“Adams: What words of encouragement can you give us to help in our fight against the enemy of freedom, and humanity?
“Zeller – Hirzel: Strive for Unity. It makes resistance powerful and courageous!”
Mirren10says
That is *inspiring*, dda. Thank you for posting it.
fidobitesays
The revolt is coming…and it better be if there are to continue to be Judeo-Christian European cultures. I foresee a potential civil war just around the corner and people will find a way to access weapons the black market way. Sadly they’ll be fighting not only the islamic scourge but their own governments as well.
stevesays
Merkel MUST be ‘removed’, ‘simple as that. All western leaders are frightened of her disapproval.Is there no German patriot with terminal cancer who would like to help his country avoid an Islamic tsunami….
bobbysays
Germans will not have to fight the police or government.The police is sick of the situation as much as the people are and so are the people in the army. They might resist a little in the beginning, but if 80% support the peoples ideas than they will not fight their own people but instead support them in overthrowing the government.When a mass of 10,000 people start to roll, they can do a lot of damage.You can not put so many people in jail, and they can accomplish a lot.Also once it starts it will get a snowball effect and more and more people will join the fight.Thats how revolutions always go.
dumbledoresarmysays
Yes.
There are already rumblings from the Praetorian Guard, because *they* are on the sharp edge of this current Muslim invasion of Europe. They are *seeing*, up close and bruisingly personal, the Attitude and behaviour of the Mohammedan hordes; it is worrying them, very much; and they are chafing against the restrictions placed upon them, because at heart, many of them do understand their vocation. They don’t like being *restrained* from doing their job…their job being to enforce their country’s laws, and protect their fellow citizens, especially the weakest. Ordinary country policemen in little villages and country towns all over Europe.
Think, too, about the fact that it will have been the most “traditional”, the most conservative, the most patriotic, the “remnant”, who have – for the most part – *joined* the police and the army.
There will be, too, those members of the Resistance who – like Niccolai Sennels in Denmark – upon waking up to Islam, marched off and joined the Home Guard, or equivalent (in the UK, the ‘Territorial Army’; in Australia, the “Army Reserves’; most countries have *something* of this sort, I bet even Sweden and Norway and Finland have it, and *that* is where some of the most forethinking of the incipient Resistance will have gone. In order to be at the right place, at the right time, with *skills* and organisational training).
dumbledoresarmysays
This post is for Mirren10, who wrote, above, in response to my suggestion to British jihadwatchers that
”Celebration of Guy Fawkes’ Day also offers many possibilities; use your imagination”.
Mirren replied:
“We’re having our annual bonfire night tomorrow, dda. Again, the guy will be mohammed, and the touchfire for the bonfire will be pages from the koran.
The Saltaire, the Cross of St. George, *and* the flag of the Parachute Regiment will be flying from our flagpole !
Daniel Triplett says
If only they had a 2nd Amendment..
DP111 says
The German government, and the MSM, are now colluding to defame PEGIDA and the PI blog. They now habitually call both Nazi, and are doing their best to prosecute both under some pretext.
http://www.pi-news.net/2015/11/p489246/
We can be sure that the rest of Europe, as well the USA, will do everything to assist. None of them can allow the Great Islamic Project in the West, the child of Saudi Arabia, and the death of Christianity in the West, to come to an end.
The West has succeeded in the virtual extinction of Christianity in the Middle East, so see no reason why the more important aspect, its death in the West, should not be undertaken.
One can translate the above link to English using Google.
Roger says
Yep, thanks for your post. I have been ridiculed by some on here for stating that in my belief leaders of all anti islamist groups in Germany will be dragged through the courts or rounded up in dawn raids in the coming weeks.
The authorities will cite public safety concerns for the arrests.
Just look at Le Pen and Wilders, they are being dragged through the courts as we speak.
DP111 says
Look what happened to Serbia and ex-Yugoslavia. Their leaders were demonised by the entire MSM of the West, as worse then Nazis. Why? Because they didnt wish for the Islamisation of their country.
That poor nation, was then bombed by NATO, till it capitulated. Their leaders dragged through the kangaroo court at the Hague, never really tried before an unbiased jury, and were lefy to rot in jail, till thei died.
All this was done at the behest of Saudi Arabia. I distinctly remember secretary of of state Albright making an urgent trip to SA to confer with her masters, before the final ultimatum to Milosovitch.
I suggest that Hungaroian PM Orban restores his links to Russia. His blatant act of stating that Hungary was a Christian country, has not gone down well with the rogues and traitors in power.
fritz99 says
Merkel warned the Balkan more or less for a new war!
„Ich möchte nicht, dass dort wieder militärische Auseinandersetzungen notwendig werden.“ Und weiter: „Ich will jetzt nicht schwarzmalen. Aber es geht schneller als man denkt, dass aus Streit auch Handgreiflichkeiten werden und aus Handgreiflichkeiten dann auch Dinge entstehen, die wir alle nicht wollen.“
I don´t want that there military conflicts will again be necessary.-I don´t want to paint it black but it goes faster than you think…
http://www.volksblatt.at/politik/warnung_vor_neuem_balkan_krieg_04112015/
http://www.huffingtonpost.de/2015/11/03/merkel-krieg-balkan_n_8460142.html
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/fluechtlingskrise/merkel-und-die-fluechtlinge-krieg-auf-dem-balkan-13892005.html
http://www.haz.de/Nachrichten/Politik/Deutschland-Welt/Angela-Merkel-warnt-vor-militaerischen-Konflikten-durch-Fluechtlingskrise
http://www.focus.de/politik/videos/angst-vor-balkan-krieg-grenz-zaun-zwischen-deutschland-und-oesterreich-merkel-warnt-vor-militaer-konflikten_id_5058458.html
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Didn´t all Dictators sayed:I dont want a war-I want peace?
Gea says
That is nonsense claim. Serianb fascists(former communist Milosevic, Karadzic and Mladic) wanted to RULE the ENTIRE Yugoslavia and had first attacked Slovenia and Croatia.
That had NOTHYING to do with Serbs fighintin Isla,as Bosnian Muslims were totally secularized and considered more of a nationality than religion. In former Communist Yugoslavia, very few people went to churches of mosques, as religion was considered under Marxism as “an opiate of the masses”.
The foolish European Union and UN watched in 1992 how Serbian fascists incited and by Miltoseevic, Karadzic and Mladic had been raping Muslim and Croatian women and murdering Muslim men and youngsters in Bosnia (Srebrenica)…
Then some jihadis came from the Arab world and started helping secular Muslimsin Bosnia to fight back. Many of those jihadis stayed and married Bosnian women and are now slowly radicalizing Bosnian Muslim youth in mosques built by the Muslim oil money as are mosques all over Europe.
Do not mix the -Serbian fascists and those who fight for freedom for ALL people, such as Pegida movement.
Jan Sobieski says
100% correct. The govt must not let the critics of Islam gain momentum. That is the govt’s priority.
Jeremiah says
Demonstrations are a Jihad against Rape, Extortion and Deception. Our leaders slander us. Our leaders defame us. Our leaders lied to get in and they want to lie to stay in power. Our leaders brand protests as a war against “refugees”. Our leaders are traitors. We tell the truth while Islam commits deception to invade, to rape, to demand benefits they don’t deserve and to rape the nations which opened its borders. Ask your neighbors if they know somebody who has been raped by a muslim and ask them to join. Keep telling the truth. Kick the leaders out as early as possible. Keep your guns and buy more. It will become more violent.
Angemon says
DP111 posted:
“The German government, and the MSM, are now colluding to defame PEGIDA and the PI blog. They now habitually call both Nazi”
Here they refer to it as “xenophobic”.
joyce bagby says
Chuck Todd is a news anchor here in the U.S. and he gave Dr Ben Carson a bad time for talking about how Germany was disarmed when Hitler was in power and the reason Hitler was able to do what he did was that nobody could fight back. Dr Carson was referring to why the battle over gun control is wrong. We Americans will never give up our second amendment right. It’s not about hunting deer with an AK-47, it’s about the ability to defend ourselves from tyranny. Most of our news agencies suck up every word obama spouts out. It seems they are actually so stupid they cannot see what is happening right before their eyes. Bootlicking cowards when it comes to Islam but not a word is spoken when Christians are killed. It’s despicable. I worry for Israel but take comfort they are God’s chosen people and He will protect them. We cannot get obama out of office soon enough, he’s either a closet muslam, a dhimmy or lost his mental faculties for rational reasoning. I pray for Europe and you’ll get through this without losing your country. I’m sorry those political islamists have no peace, just hate. God Bless You all and may you stay out of harms way.
Shmooviyet says
Agreed- BHO appears to have more than one screw loose– he is in near-full meltdown mode.
One of the most despicable acts was a year-late letter of appreciation sent from the WH to the OK mosque of the ‘recent converted’ beheader Alton Nolan (sp?), for aid provided after a tornado the previous summer. I still have not seen the letter of condolence to the husband of Colleen Hufford.
Of course that savagery was about ‘racism’ and business and had NTDWI.
Alan says
Why can`t we organise a similar demonstration in the UK?
It must be possible to make arrangements to exclude the drunks and thugs.
A majority of people in this country (the silent majority) are sick and tired of the
sycophantic kowtowing to militant Islam and the changing face of out towns and
cities.
We must start to register our feelings in meetings and on the street.
Cameron`s government is weak,spineless and cannot be relied upon to
protect this country from encroaching Islam
The Labour Party is pitiable and pathetic in it`s hysterical humanitarian
response to the current crisis
Cameron will change his stance and bow to pressure to allow even more Islamists
into the UK.
We are living in the 21st century,we do not need the the brutal standards of the
7th century applying here.
Marty says
In the UK the single most powerful source of political info i
s the BBC.
Its influence is greater than the Murdoch press, Sky News
& ITV News combined.
Anyone who resists islam is branded “right wing”, “racist” ”
islamophobic” etc. by the BBC.
That’s why every cop, social worker, etc stood by & watched
mohammedans seduce, drug addict, gang rape & prostitute
our girls in Rotherham & many other places.
Your career is over if you’re even accused of racism.
Miao Zedong says
“It must be possible to make arrangements to exclude the drunks and thugs.A majority of people in this country (the silent majority) are sick and tired of the..”
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I don’t know the situation in the UK. In Germany, people attending “Pegida” are mostly peaceful. However, that is not going to help much if the government tolerates violence from the left-extremist (Antifa). I’m talking of serious violence that sooner or later will lead to more than “just” the occasional crippled bystander. YES, it’s that violent.
That alone will deter the concerned families to participate and I’m thinking why not gather once in a month or even just every 3 months in safe places (indoor) and register the head count to raise the awareness that people are not alone ? People who want a change and see that they really count and number.
Even then I would expect attacks on such places but that would clearly single out the aggressors, which is not possible in melees in the street.
By the way I wonder why BBC gets away with using “Asian” to label violent groups that are black, caucasion or really asians. That’s racist slander against all Asians….
Mirren10 says
Alan, contact Paul Weston at LibertyGB with your ideas.
http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/
Judi says
Alan – a similar protest WAS held recently outside Downing Street. Unfortunately no more than about 70 people turned up (and about 30 police)!!
dumbledoresarmy says
Seventy is a whole lot better than none.
Think of it as a seed; a beginning of a beginning.
Were *you* there? Whether participating or observing?
If you were, *what kind of people* were the seventy?
Young? Old? Middle-aged? Males? Females? Religious? Non-religious?
Were they all known to each other beforehand, or had most of them simply found out about it somehow – social media? – and gone along? And when they were there, were they conversing? Swapping notes? Arranging to meet again?
I hope that those seventy people *did* decide to do it again. And again and again and again, and tell others.
Post scriptum.
I would encourage Britons to go off and join the Royal Society of St George, and then acquire the Cross of St George flag and fly it (the Society has a fly-the-flag campaign going). And you can’t be accused of being racist or right-wing, if you’re a member of the Society, because guess what? – Her Majesty the Queen is the official Patron of the Royal Society of Saint George.
The Society – to judge from its website – is a nice old-fashioned patriotic society, and is all about promoting the best of English culture. It’s about historical and civilisational awareness. Jihad-aware Englishmen and women should join it en masse…and transform it into an avenue for resistance, for consciousness-raising.
Of course, if you’re a Scot you can fly the Cross of Saint Andrew, and if Welsh, the Pendragon, the red dragon of Gwent. Along with the Union Jack.
This may sound trivial, but little things can become a symbol of resistance.
If Christian, there are possible avenues for networking and visibly retaking ‘turf’ – one such is the old custom of “Beating the Bounds” – suggest it to the nearest rector; a newer practice is that of ‘prayer walking’, and ‘walk of witness’. Ringing church bells at every possible excuse.
Celebration of Guy Fawkes’ Day also offers many possibilities; use your imagination.
Keep an eye on the website of the British Pakistani Christian Association; they have held rallies and demonstrations outside both Downing St and the Pakistani High Commission, focusing on Islamic Pakistan’s horrible treatment of its non-Muslim minorities. This sort of occasion offers opportunities to stand up and be counted, publicly condemn Islamic atrocities, and potentially form alliances and meet like-minded people…and *educate* those who may be aware of a problem but not necessarily yet have the Big Picture.
Likewise, keep an eye out for any pro-Israel demonstrations, rallies or Events, whether held by the Jewish community or by their friends. Those, too, offer a chance to network, identify allies, and often awareness-raise because not everybody understands exactly *why* the Arabs/ Muslims are so hellbent on attacking and destroying Israel/ Jews.
Raja says
Thank you dumbledoresarmy for a very useful post. Hope it is useful to lots of people.
Mirren10 says
”Celebration of Guy Fawkes’ Day also offers many possibilities; use your imagination”
We’re having our annual bonfire night tomorrow, dda. Again, the guy will be mohammed, and the touchfire for the bonfire will be pages from the koran.
The Saltaire, the Cross of St. George, *and* the flag of the Parachute Regiment will be flying from our flagpole !
NFSE !
Sile Draper says
Go for it!
Jay Boo says
German auto maker Volkswagen tried to fool us into buying its cars by hiding pollution of 11 million vehicles.
Merkel wants to do the same with 11 million Muslims.
Jay Boo says
Know our enemy.
Islam may be uniquely evil but Muslims are not.
They are just people, nothing more.
Muslims are not monsters nor are Muslims even sub-human.
Yes, they marry their cousins, but still.
They are just people.
They have no super powers.
But they are as a whole, a clear and present danger to our society and we do not have the time or luxury to hope that a few will turn solidly against Islam while the majority, statistically do not.
All immigrants should at least be required to take a loyalty oath as a minimum. Better that no Muslims be allowed in, if possible.
Many of the arriving Muslims are not even screened.
Infidela says
Excellent post.
Joe Gardner says
Take a loyalty oath? You can force them do so all you want, doesn’t mean they will stick to it. Think of it like marriage. You can take a vow to be together for ever, doesn’t mean that vow will stick. Best thing to do is just start forcing them out and back to the sands upon which they came.
Michael Copeland says
The Times Square would-be bomber, whose car bomb failed to explode, was reminded at his trial that he had taken the Oath of Allegiance at his naturalization ceremony. His reply?
“I sweared but I did not mean it.”
Unfortunately taqiyya makes Oaths of no effect.
Mirren10 says
Exactly.
How could we ever trust what a muslim said ? A loyalty oath would be utterly pointless.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/times-square-bomber-i-swore-loyalty-251871
Maybe we could make them draw a cartoon of mohammed ….
No. They’d just lie again. Better not to let any more of them in, **at all**, and keep all the mosques under 24/7 surveillance. Any suspicious activity, send them off to Syria, annul passports, declare them exiles, and never, ever, let them back in.
*And* stop **all** welfare benefits. One of the big reasons they’re coming is benefits. Make it known they won’t get any. *All* European countries should be doing this. I guarantee there would be a huge drop in all these able bodied, young male cowards demanding entry.
mahghan says
Murderers and rapists are just people too. Right. The issue how can a normal person adhere to a belief system founded by a rapist, brigand, murder and slave holder? That person just cannot be normal.
mahghan says
Murderers and rapists are just people too. Right. The issue how can a normal person adhere to a belief system founded by a rapist, brigand, murder and slave holder? That person just cannot be normal.
Where have I said that?
boakai ngombu says
But they are as a whole, a clear and present danger to our society and we do not have the time or luxury to hope that a few will turn solidly against Islam while the majority, statistically do not.
let’s hope the leadership recognizes this, otherwise that “newly” completed cathedral – reconstructed from out of the rubble WWII – will be turned into a mosque
boakai ngombu says
excuse … meant for Jay Boo’s comment above
Raja says
It appears that these marches are already too late. You have a monster who wants bulk votes from cheap labor and wants to window dress / show cause Germany as a role model for rest of Europe.
On the other hand you have man on the street feeling suffocated like a wild buffalo when torn apart by a dozen hyena.
It is a queer world and queerer is Germany thanks to an evil leader Merkel.
ensitue says
The German PPL now have an opportunity to atone for the horrors of WW2 by sacrificing themselves in an effort to save Europe from an even worse fate then that of the Jews. Many will die and be maimed in this effort as the current NAZI, Merkel unleashes her minions against he own nation but this must be done if Europe and the West is to survive. The alternative is a plunge into an age of utter darkness that has not been seen since the Bronze Age
mortimer says
Militant Muslims are the new Nazis and ISIS is the new Third Reich, but Merkel can’t see it.
Peggy says
What makes you think she can’t see it?
She’s heading it.
Jeremiah says
Dresden was such a nice city. Now they have mosques . . . All they need to do is take down the mosques and nobody gets hurt
Myxlplik says
The precedent being set is, those who are peaceful don’t actually have a reportable, or addressable grievance.
Rioting jihad murderers have a grievance according to the status quo being set by the press and western governments.
The rule is set, might makes right.
nifty says
did anyone here what they were shouting?
mortimer says
Thanks, Marc. This is good news that PEGIDA is growing.
Hoping it will spread to North America. In Quebec, the Marxists organized to intimidate PEGIDA. Maybe next time, they will have a larger crowd.
Protest of this scale is not lost on politicians. We must march to be heard.
Jeremiah says
Yes plenty of time for waiting until the next election. Another million or so combatants makes no difference to a society teetering on the edge. The only reason we have good demonstrations is because it is too late. The death throws of a number of nations. Wake up and do something if you wan to survive.
richie says
Those protesting the Islamic hoardes are not Nazis-but Muslims may actually unite the real fascist neo Nazis and nationalists and see the resurrection of the Nazi party.
dumbledoresarmy says
Two ideas for the PEGIDA people (just in case anyone from PEGIDA or thinking of joining the movement, is looking over my shoulder).
First: in another few weeks it will be Advent.
Step up your marches. And…at *every* march, SING. Sing **Christmas carols**…the lovely traditional carols for which Germany is famous. Sing the ones that everybody knows, the ones that people still learn in childhood. It will be very difficult for the media to frame you as Nazis if you are singing Christian carols. (very hard to do so, also, if you are simply carrying crosses!).
I see that some are already carrying crosses. This is an excellent idea, because it shows the Muslims that you are not Dhimmis. Dhimmis were NOT allowed to publicly display crosses; they were not allowed to hold religious processions in public where Muslims could see them; they were not allowed to sing their religious songs loudly where Muslims could hear them; and they were not allowed to ring church bells. Further – sharia forbids ‘stringed instruments and flutes’.
Sooo…take along *handbells* and ring them (I was at an Oktoberfest ‘do’ here in Australia, and I saw that there are traditional German songs that are accompanied by handbells). *Sing the traditional Christmas carols* loud and clear. Play guitars, play fiddles, play on the flute, play folk-dances! It will build morale, it will – if you do it right – sound lovely and *look* lovely, and it will tell the Muslims: we are not Dhimmis, and we will NOT observe your horrible sharia rules about music, or crosses, or singing Christian songs, or any songs.
Second – here’s my other idea – every person who attends should **carry white roses**, whether real or artificial or painted on a banner or made into a coronet or a necklace or a wrist-band or a buttonhole. You want to invoke the memory of Sophie Scholl and the original White Rose Society who denounced and resisted the Third Reich.
Susanne Zeller-Hirzel, who was a member of the original White Rose society, joined the Resistance against Islamisation, when she was a very old lady, only a few years before her death. Because, just as when, in her teenage years, she recognised Nazism as evil, in her *old age* she read the ex-Muslim Mark Gabriel, his book “Islam and Terrorism”, and recognised ISLAM as evil , as something she had to speak up against, warn people about.
Carry the White Rose. Re-form the White Rose Society.
Think about it. The media come along to cover your demonstration, and they don’t see even one Swastika – instead they see a sea of white roses, and crosses, and candles, and they hear people singing, “Es ist ein Ros entsprungen…” and “In dulce jubilo” and “Stille Nacht, heilige Nacht”. Or even singing choruses from Bach .can you find anybody who can do *that*?
Try to think of ways to ‘throw’ them, to go against their ‘script’ in unexpected ways.
dumbledoresarmy says
Here is an article with the text of an interview with Susanne Zeller-Hirzel, which was done before her death.
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm/blog_id/23329
Wednesday, 30 September 2009
The White Rose: An Interview with Mrs. Susanne Zeller- Hirzel
Here is the concluding portion of that interview:
“Adams: You are now involved in the “Peoples Movement PAX EUROPA” (BPE) in Germany. We understand this to be one of the more important anti-Jihad organizations in Germany. What prompted you to get involved in the anti-Islamist movement?
“Zeller – Hirzel: I read many, many books on the subject; especially the books by Mark Gabriel (see “Islam and Terrorism”).
“So I realized that one must not simply accept these things passively but also do something about it. One must support this cause by necessity.
{Think about that. She was a very old lady, in her eighties. And yet she heard the trumpet ring out, again, calling her; and she stood up, to do what she could, in her final years – dda)
“Adams: Do you see similarities between Islam and Nazism? If so, what are these similarities?
“Zeller – Hirzel: The fanaticism, the absolute claim of possessing the only truth and the spiritual simplicity are very similar between Islam and the Nazism.
“Adams: Do you view opposing Islamization as the same battle you were fighting when the White Rose fought Nazism?
“Zeller – Hirzel: Not quite yet. Critics of the Nazi ideology were then immediately arrested. We have not yet reached that point. But if we do nothing, it will come back to that. Then they might lock up the critics of Islam.
“Adams: In your view why is it so difficult to explain the threat of Islamization to the public? What is stopping us from getting our message across to the public? What can we do better?
“Zeller – Hirzel: The general indifference to religious matters make it difficult. The public believes we to have to be “fair” to everyone. That is counterproductive. Additionally, there is general prosperity with a relatively high standard of living that makes people lazy. I say: Only education can help. Education can aid.
“Adams: What is the best way to approach a person who knows nothing about Islam? How do we build a base of support among people so that we are never in the desperate position that entrapped you, Sophie and the heroes of the White Rose resistance group?
“Zeller – Hirzel: As I said before: Education!
“We need to conduct neighborhood meetings, community and church events. The distress in the population is indeed there, but apparently not big enough.
“”Hitler is the scourge of God,” once said Robert Scholl, Sophie’s father. But he was then promptly convicted.
“Adams: When you and your colleagues of the White Rose were leafleting in Munich and elsewhere, did you believe that the population could be converted to anti-Hitlerism?
“Zeller – Hirzel: Yes, we really believed that. We actually thought we could move public opinion. Even if it happened to be in vain, we tried it before history. And yet we were afraid. The very few supporters we had were scared. We were afraid of death sentences, meted out by Freisler’s People’s Court, afraid of his screaming. But screaming is also a weakness.
“Adams: We know that the memory of Sophie Scholl, you and your colleagues is held in great esteem across the world by lovers of freedom and justice. How best do we motivate people today to fight against the Islamization of Europe and the West?
“Zeller – Hirzel: I think something terrible needs to happen before Germans awaken.
“9/11 was too far away from the German people.
“The churches fail miserably in the task of informing people about Islamic ideology.
“That can only happen through grassroots activism, education and instruction.
“Even if in Europe the churches play an increasingly smaller social role, the people ought to be agitating in church institutions, in the parishes and so forth.
“Adams: What words of encouragement can you give us to help in our fight against the enemy of freedom, and humanity?
“Zeller – Hirzel: Strive for Unity. It makes resistance powerful and courageous!”
Mirren10 says
That is *inspiring*, dda. Thank you for posting it.
fidobite says
The revolt is coming…and it better be if there are to continue to be Judeo-Christian European cultures. I foresee a potential civil war just around the corner and people will find a way to access weapons the black market way. Sadly they’ll be fighting not only the islamic scourge but their own governments as well.
steve says
Merkel MUST be ‘removed’, ‘simple as that. All western leaders are frightened of her disapproval.Is there no German patriot with terminal cancer who would like to help his country avoid an Islamic tsunami….
bobby says
Germans will not have to fight the police or government.The police is sick of the situation as much as the people are and so are the people in the army. They might resist a little in the beginning, but if 80% support the peoples ideas than they will not fight their own people but instead support them in overthrowing the government.When a mass of 10,000 people start to roll, they can do a lot of damage.You can not put so many people in jail, and they can accomplish a lot.Also once it starts it will get a snowball effect and more and more people will join the fight.Thats how revolutions always go.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes.
There are already rumblings from the Praetorian Guard, because *they* are on the sharp edge of this current Muslim invasion of Europe. They are *seeing*, up close and bruisingly personal, the Attitude and behaviour of the Mohammedan hordes; it is worrying them, very much; and they are chafing against the restrictions placed upon them, because at heart, many of them do understand their vocation. They don’t like being *restrained* from doing their job…their job being to enforce their country’s laws, and protect their fellow citizens, especially the weakest. Ordinary country policemen in little villages and country towns all over Europe.
Think, too, about the fact that it will have been the most “traditional”, the most conservative, the most patriotic, the “remnant”, who have – for the most part – *joined* the police and the army.
There will be, too, those members of the Resistance who – like Niccolai Sennels in Denmark – upon waking up to Islam, marched off and joined the Home Guard, or equivalent (in the UK, the ‘Territorial Army’; in Australia, the “Army Reserves’; most countries have *something* of this sort, I bet even Sweden and Norway and Finland have it, and *that* is where some of the most forethinking of the incipient Resistance will have gone. In order to be at the right place, at the right time, with *skills* and organisational training).
dumbledoresarmy says
This post is for Mirren10, who wrote, above, in response to my suggestion to British jihadwatchers that
”Celebration of Guy Fawkes’ Day also offers many possibilities; use your imagination”.
Mirren replied:
“We’re having our annual bonfire night tomorrow, dda. Again, the guy will be mohammed, and the touchfire for the bonfire will be pages from the koran.
The Saltaire, the Cross of St. George, *and* the flag of the Parachute Regiment will be flying from our flagpole !
NFSE !”
HURRAH! Go for it!