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An Ancient Folly

Dec 24, 2015 1:18 pm By Michael Devolin

Erdogan

“The imperial notion, by its very definition, posits the domination of one ethnic, religious, or national group over another, and the Ottoman Empire was no exception.” –Ephraim Karsh, from Islamic Imperialism

Turkey’s history, together with its present political footwork in regards to ISIS, represents, for me, everything bad about Islam. I remember reading somewhere years ago, before Erdogan’s Islamist party came to power, that Turkey could be counted on as a real friend to Israel. I thought at the time, as I think now, that the State of Israel, a country predominantly Jewish, should never count on an allegiance with any country predominantly Muslim. Not only because of the ingrained Arab Muslim culture of anti-Jewish hatred, or because, as Wesley Pruden opined recently in the Washington Times, “The Arabs make great assassins, but of soldiers, not so much.” But also because any state wherein Islam exists as the preponderant religion subsequently degenerates, inevitably, into a country extremely prone to internecine conflict, even national immolation whenever the envisioned terminus of the opposing faction is heralded as a higher level of devotion to the credenda of Islam.

George Clemenceau, a French statesman and Prime Minister of France from 1906 to 1909, and again from 1917 to 1920, one of the main architects of the Treaty of Versailles, famously said of Turkey (as quoted in Margaret Macmillan’s Paris 1919), “There is no case to be found either in Europe or Asia or Africa in which the establishment of Turkish rule in any country has not been followed by a diminution of material prosperity, and a fall in the level of culture; nor is there any case to be found in which the withdrawal of Turkish rule has not been followed by a growth in material prosperity and a rise in the level of culture. Neither among the Christians of Europe nor among the Moslems of Syria, Arabia and Africa, has the Turk done other than destroy wherever he has conquered.” Of course, this was before Mustafa Kemal Ataturk and his “six arrows of Kemalism”—before his reforms, which included the abolishment of the Turkish caliphate, transformed Turkey and its majority Muslim population from a dull and dying empire into a revitalized nation at least willing to give secularization—separation of state and religion—a chance to prove its efficaciousness.

But old habits die hard. Fast forward to the present and we see the Islamist party of President Recep Tayyip Erdogan winning a recent election; a victory, as reported in the New York Times, “ensuring Mr. Erdogan’s continued dominance of Turkish politics after months of political turmoil and violence.” Not surprisingly, “The result will permit Mr. Erdogan to remain the country’s preeminent political figure while pushing the boundaries of the constitutional limits of the presidency, a largely ceremonial role.” It seems Muslim societies cannot escape their ancient folly of feeling safe while living within the cuddle of tyrants and dictators. Like Khaled Mashal, leader of the terrorist entity Hamas in Gaza, Erdogan knows that citing the pious designs of Islam and the injustices, real or imagined, committed against its adherents, always appeals to the common Muslim consciousness. The Economist reports (Sept 13, 2014) that, “In Mr. Erdogan’s Turkey, praying five times a day and observing Ramadan are pluses. Cabinet ministers eager to curry favour tweet verses from the Koran.” Turkey’s secular thinkers believe, and with good reason, that, “Mr. Erdogan wants to replace Ataturk’s republic with Islamist rule. They cite changes in education. The number of imam hatip (Sunni Islamic clerical training) schools has doubled in five years, and pupils who fail the new exam to get into their first choice have been pushed into imam hatip schools instead.” President Barack Obama used the same sycophantic strategy to insure American Muslim favour (read votes) when he wrote in his book The Audacity of Hope, “In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging.”

And this brings me to my point, which is that, once Muslims become a majority of the population in either the United States or Canada (and, according to Mark Steyn’s demographics, this majority could soon become a reality), once their “ancient folly” begins to make waves here, there is no turning back. There is no hope of ever regaining the democratic freedoms and liberties so many of us now take for granted. Once they’re gone, they’re gone forever. As the minorities of Turkey have endured for centuries, we will become nothing more than myopic citizens concatenated to an ugly circular existence: We will have our moments of clarity and our very own versions of “Kemalism,” but, like the secularists and pro-democracy advocates of Turkey, because of our inferior numbers we will be pulled back down into the dark abyss of barbaric Islamist trumpery. Rabbi Meir Kahane foresaw and exposed this Islamist threat as it related to the State of Israel and for his patriotism—his Judaism—he was banished from Israeli politics forever, his name tarnished beyond repair, and was later murdered by a Muslim assassin in New York City. Let’s hope the future holds more promise for those potential leaders of today who prove they possess the courage to rise above the petty wisdom of party politics in order to tell their fellow citizens what they need to hear, not what they like to hear. Otherwise, as Plato warned, “Democracy passes into despotism.”

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  1. By George says

    Dec 24, 2015 at 1:24 pm

    Islamization
    Question: What describes an innocent, peaceful muslim? Answer: one who is not trying to kill or convert you. Those are usually dead ones. The rest are actually waiting their turn. Quran, 8:12,”I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.” Surely, this cannot be a formula for an individuals spiritual struggle? Don’t you think?

    It is pure propaganda to continually tell Americans that Islam is a religion of peace. Islam is only peaceful when it is not on the attack to subjugate us infidels. To defend ones self from that attack places Americans in the position of being accused of racism, or worse, Islamophobia. These hateful words are screamed by the left-leaning press about anyone who objects.

    Ted Cruz recently fell for this line of propaganda by trying to differentiate Islamic Jihadists from Innocent, peaceful muslims. He’s wrong! It can’t be done, but, he is running for high office and can’t be seen as not standing squarely for all Americans. That’s too bad! Ted should really stand up for Americas Constitution and the rule of law as it applies to all Americans. To those who do not wish to comply and assimilate, he should invite them to leave America and return to their squalid, violent Islamic homelands. They have no business being here. Fat chance of that!

    Quran, 9:14, “Fight against them so that Allah will punish them by your hands and disgrace them and give you victory over them and heal the breasts of a believing people.” To injure and humiliate Infidels (non-believers) has the blessing of Allah but, it is ‘ordered’ as a means of punishing non-believers and healing the hearts of Muslims as well.

    How should non-believers (People of the Book, i.e.: Christians and Jews) react to these violent teachings from the “religion of peace?” First, Christians and Jews must not be afraid to stand up for, and defend, the Bible and the Torah. Second, Clergy must seriously enact the biblical command to go forth and preach the Gospel. A few protestant denominations do this with vigor but many others, recognizing the change from Christianity to secularism, and afraid to contain it, must return to Christianity by example. Protecting sexual predators, hopefully now weeded out of the Catholic Priesthood, didn’t help them, and neither did the several evangelical TV preachers caught in adulterous positions by which their authority, and livelihood, was lost.

    Quran, 9:33, taken from the final chapter of the Revelations of Allah, tells muslims that Allah has made Islam superior to all religions and in fact, sets in motion the need for Jihad, the expansion by military means, to dominate all people and all other faiths of the whole world.

    Europe is nearing the completion of its Islamization. Except for the odd spasms of Islamic violence, predicated upon alleged insults to the Prophet and Islam, the transformation is going according to plan. Not by military invasion as of yore, but by assimilation and over production in host countries, like cancer cells invading its host body. For Europe, the process has been slow, deliberate and methodical. For America, it is being hurried along by Obamas invitation to Syrian Jihadists to throw their roots down here, in our soil, to prosper and multiply.

    Quran, 25:52: Therefore listen not to the unbelievers, but strive against them with the utmost strenuousness.” To “strive against” means Jihad. Our politicians and preachers had better do some searching of their souls and do what’s right. There can never be a “peaceful, innocent muslim.” It just ain’t gonna happen!

  2. mortimer says

    Dec 24, 2015 at 2:54 pm

    Wesley Pruden opined recently in the Washington Times, “The Arabs make great assassins, but of soldiers, not so much.”

    That’s because VIGILANTISM is protected and ENSHRINED in SHARIA LAW!

    Vigilante murder of apostates and blasphemers is NORMATIVE ISLAM, rather than an aberration.

    Only Leftarded, Western, multi-culti, cultural Marxist kum-by-hya-singers don’t get it…WHY? They don’t want to read the Islamic source texts so their Unicorn-fantasy won’t be challenged by FACTS.

    • don vito says

      Dec 25, 2015 at 4:25 am

      It seems in the west, we have been trained “not to take the law into our own hands”, the west meets a culture that teaches and practices just the opposite. I dare say, it doesn’t take much of an imagination to “see” what will happen in a multicultural atmosphere. Realizing that a large part of the political class, media, industrial, academic, religious leadership sides with the vigilante advocacy group, as well as controlling the police and courts. Kufrs are at quite a disadvantage. Too bad Kufrs can’t figure a way to overcome this disadvantage. Are all paths blocked to kufrs seeking liberty?

    • Sam says

      Dec 25, 2015 at 8:17 am

      So true. My liberal friends wont even discuss Islam. When i try to talk evil Islam there is sudden silence. Strange disease this liberalism is. Very strange.

  3. WhatsUpDoc says

    Dec 24, 2015 at 7:37 pm

    I don’t think Europe will become majority Muslim. When Muslim population reaches at around 25 percent it sparks a civil war.

    • Rotten Eye says

      Dec 25, 2015 at 3:38 am

      I believe you are right. Nationalist Europeans will not stand by and watch their culture being usurped and suppressed only to be replaced by a culture that does not allow freedom and tolerance.Liberal politicians will fight against them, but this will only intensify the coming conflict. In the end, the Europeans will have to forcefully remove every Muslim from Europe, and they will probably turn to some strong dictator as done in WWII to lead them. Europeans also have this capability in their genes and culture, they can also be brutal. When Muslims start to impose their way en mass they will spark the civil war.

  4. epistemology says

    Dec 24, 2015 at 8:06 pm

    Under Erdogaga Turkey has been turning into a caliphate for quite some time. Kemalism was a very good concept, it freed the Turks from the old religious constraints.

    I read Efraim Karsh’s book ‘Islamic Imperialism’, it’s a brilliant analysis a must-read for every Islam critic. Erdogaga wants to revive the Ottoman empire which was the last caliphate. He surreptitiously works with ISIS but pretends to fight against them. Erdogaga must be stopped. He hates Israel

    • Judi says

      Dec 25, 2015 at 6:53 am

      Yes, he hates Israel but lately he has been making “overtures” to them. He realises that he is fast running out of allies (other than Obama) since his dealings with ISIS have been exposed and after the downing of the Russian airline. Putin has cancelled all trade dealings with him including a gas pipeline.. He needs gas and is turning to the only country now capable of supplying him.

  5. Angemon says

    Dec 24, 2015 at 8:19 pm

    Turkey’s history, together with its present political footwork in regards to ISIS, represents, for me, everything bad about Islam.

    Is there even anything good in islam? Sure, the earlier verses are more pacifist, but they were abrogated, and the final marching orders are to subjugate others as second-class semi-slaves to be used, abused and humiliated on a daily basis and kill those who refuse that status.

    • Lily says

      Dec 25, 2015 at 2:57 pm

      It sickened me after 9/11 when the press & our govt. Immediately rushed to defend Islam as the “religion of peace”. Islam is a cult of death & allah is satan. After finally being able to come out of a cult in central Texas ( not the branch davidians) and spending years healing from the cleverly imposed brainwashing & fear which said that you were running away from God & doomed to hell, I have a little understanding of the role so called “religions” play in controlling the minds of the masses under them. It truly is demonic. Fear is the major controller & a poweful one. So called moderate muslims will either keep silent or eventually go along with the religious leaders. In the cult I was in, the mildest form of rejection was shunning when you left. Taken to the extreme, it causes once close neighbors to turn & kill those they consider not muslim enough or infidels. It amazes me how free Americans fall into the trap of defending them or even force students to participate in their practices as we’ve read recently. I think this must be the same self loving spirit that says if I let my children have anything they want, it feeds me to believe that I am a loving parent. If I tell you that I think you are wonderful because you seem like a nice person, even though your religion is the cause of almost every brutal war in the world, it feeds me to believe I am a loving tolerant person. A former KGB agent who defected said that once you create this kind of liberal mind, even plain evidence will not convince you otherwise until the boot is on your neck. I heard of a man riding in a New York taxi driven by a muslim driver. They had a friendly, pleasant conversation. Finally the driver said, I like Americans. I will hate to kill you when they tell us to.” We must speak out & expose it for what it really is.Christianity is the true religion of peace. That’s why they hate it & why they try to stamp it out.Thank you Robert Spencer.

  6. mike ryan says

    Dec 24, 2015 at 8:47 pm

    Excellent article, Mr. Devolin.
    Thank you for adding another book (Mr. Karsh’s) to my reading list.

    I often try to speak to people about Islam’s degenerative influence upon civilization, but so many people are resistant to the message. Somewhere along the line, people were brainwashed into accepting the false notion that it is “racist” to question the dogma that all human cultures are equally good and therefore worthy of our respect and support.

  7. Jim Jatras says

    Dec 25, 2015 at 12:02 am

    Currently posted at No. 5 on the Obama White House petition site is one to list Erdogan’s Turkey as a STATE SPONSOR OF TERRORISM and to void US ties with Turkey via NATO!

    No one expects Obama to do this to his good buddy Erdogan. But it’s nice to see the truth about Turkey’s support for jihad terror, aggression against neighbors, and denial of genocides against Christian Armenians, Greeks, and Assyrians — right there on Obama’s own White House site. Over 12,000 have signed, with phenomenal growth in the past two days. Let’s see how many sign before they take it down!

    Link and text below:

    https://petitions.whitehouse.gov//petition/list-erdogans-turkey-state-sponsor-terrorism-void-us-alliance-turkey

    LIST ERDOGAN’S TURKEY AS STATE SPONSOR OF TERRORISM; VOID U.S. ALLIANCE WITH TURKEY

    Following Turkey’s downing of a Russian jet striking the Islamic State (IS), it is undeniable that Pres. Recep Tayyip Erdogan supports jihad terrorism in Syria. IS exports oil via Turkey and terrorists of IS, al-Qaeda, and other jihad groups transit the border.

    This builds upon a pattern of Ankara’s support for terrorists in other countries: Russia (Chechnya), China (Xinjiang), Israel/Gaza (Hamas), Yugoslavia (Bosnia), Serbia (Kosovo), Georgia (Pankisi), Egypt (Muslim Brotherhood); aggression against neighbors (invasion and occupation of Cyprus, violation of Greece’s airspace, blockade of Armenia); and denial of genocides against Christian Armenians, Greeks, and Assyrians.

    Turkey should be listed as a State Sponsor of Terrorism. The U.S. alliance with Turkey under NATO should be voided

    • TH says

      Dec 25, 2015 at 5:08 am

      NATO needs to be disbanded as it is a useless and expensive holdover from the Cold War. The notion that Russia under Putin or someone else like him, is about to go to war with the West is simply preposterous. What needs to be achieved is the cooperation of Russia in the global anti-yihad fight. The type of arms that NATO has are totally useless in the present type of urban guerrilla war which is what is coming. Israel is the country which knows most about how to fight such a war.

    • David D says

      Dec 25, 2015 at 3:14 pm

      Thanks for posting the Petition, Jim. I just signed it and hope JW readers will join the effort of “outing” Erdogan (and his misquided “western” supporters).
      Keep in mind that Armenians claim 7 Provinces in eastern Turkey stolen from them during the Genocide in addition to Assyrian and Greek claims. The Kurds (who participated in the Genocide (but have since aknowledged it and asked for forgiveness) claim areas of SE Turkey as part of their homeland. An alliance is being created between these indigenous factions to push for justice from the unrepentant genocidal Turkish State.
      It’s not just an embarrassment the US supports repressive islamic countries like Turkey and S.Arabia-it’s becoming outright treason.

  8. don vito says

    Dec 25, 2015 at 4:03 am

    I read recently that Putin hopes nuke tipped cruise missiles won’t have to be used against ISIS, only as a last resort. Could it be that Putin is toying with the idea of showing moslems, Russia is serious about destroying ISIS moslems? Would ISIS continue to fight if they were nuked? What lessons could the west draw, if Russia did nuke them and ISIS stopped fighting? Where else could nukes be used to end moslem jihad?

    • TH says

      Dec 25, 2015 at 5:09 am

      NATO needs to be disbanded as it is a useless and expensive holdover from the Cold War. The notion that Russia under Putin or someone else like him, is about to go to war with the West is simply preposterous. What needs to be achieved is the cooperation of Russia in the global anti-yihad fight. The type of arms that NATO has are totally useless in the present type of urban guerrilla war which is what is coming. Israel is the country which knows most about how to fight such a war.

    • TH says

      Dec 25, 2015 at 5:11 am

      Putin is not a fool and he is quite rational. He may want to scare the jihadis as they are cowards, but I doubt very much that he will ever use nukes against them. The only thing they understand is overwhelming force and I think Putin understands this, which is fundamental in dealing with muslims. They have no respect for such things as dialogue and agreements, just brute force and the threat of it.

      • Sam says

        Dec 25, 2015 at 8:20 am

        Very true.

  9. spac says

    Dec 25, 2015 at 8:20 am

    “before his reforms, which included the abolishment of the Turkish caliphate, transformed Turkey and its majority Muslim population from a dull and dying empire into a revitalized nation at least willing to give secularization—separation of state and religion—a chance to prove its efficaciousnes” The author is fatally wrong here ….Arson(Ata) Turk set fire the biblical city of Smyrna killing only its Christian Population and changed its name to Izmir!!! Not enough that ras cal imposed the infamous wealth tax with tax rate of 4% to Muslims ,149% to Greek Christians ,173% to jews and 253% to Armenian…!! I think you got the seularism of arson turk

  10. Avenger says

    Dec 26, 2015 at 1:03 am

    Spac is correct, Ataturk slaughtered thousands of Armenians and Greeks during his control of secular Turkey. Time after time “secular” Turks have murdered their Christian subjects. In 1955 there was a program against the last remaining Greeks in Constantinople, businesses were destroyed, churches vandalized, property stolen and about 30 Greeks murdered. Then Cyprus was invaded by Turkey in 1974 with 40% of the island nation annexed to Turkey and about 3,000 young Greek Cypriots killed on the island or taken back to the mainland never to be seen again.
    Britain and the USA have both heavily subsidized the Turkish economy and without their economic and military backing it would have been wiped off the map by now.
    The cretinous Erdogan is no worse or better than his predecessors.

  11. mortimer says

    Dec 26, 2015 at 10:22 am

    ‘Predatory’ Islam is the real Islam. Islam means ‘submission’ and no one is as submitted as a slave.

    Islam is enslavement. Muslims believe ‘slavery’ is a good thing, but that is the greatest lie in Islam, equal to the lie that Mohammed is a valid prophet. Any system that promotes slavery is dysfunctional.

  12. mortimer says

    Dec 26, 2015 at 10:29 am

    Erdogan’s government continues the racist, supremacist program of previous Turk RACISTS by prosecuting genocide against the Kurdish people.

    Turkism is racism. The criminal code includes a law punishing those who criticize ‘Turkishness’ (the Turk MASTER RACE theory).

  13. Falsafa says

    Dec 27, 2015 at 12:32 am

    what an incredible piece of racist nonsense….in the best traditions of the Robert Spencer anti Islam, anti Turkish movement! for those members of the general public who have not yet gone over to the dark side here are some sources showing the richness and contributions of turkish. ottoman civilzation to the lands and peoples comprising the Ottoman Empire.. The Ottoman legacy was a far cry better than the white, european racist colonial rule exercised in africa, asia and south america up to the and beyond the WW2 ending with the French defeat in Vietnam and Algeria.

    http://www.turkishculture.org

    • Champ says

      Dec 27, 2015 at 2:45 am

      Once again — the plain truth about islam & company is too hot for “falsafa” to handle.

    • Angemon says

      Dec 30, 2015 at 7:52 pm

      Alfalfa posted:

      “what an incredible piece of racist nonsense….”

      Why it is “racist” or “nonsense” is not explained in your post.

      “in the best traditions of the Robert Spencer anti Islam, anti Turkish movement!”

      I’m pretty sure that anti-isalm and anti-turkish movements neither started with, nor will end with, Mr. Spencer.

      “for those members of the general public who have not yet gone over to the dark side”

      What “dark side” would that be?

      “here are some sources showing the richness and contributions of turkish. ottoman civilzation to the lands and peoples comprising the Ottoman Empire..”

      “Turkish ottoman civilization”? You mean, whatever was left of he civilization that the barbarous turks didn’t destroy during their violent and brutal subjugation of other, more advanced, civilizations and that the Turks claimed as their own, in classic islamic “steal everything you can and claim credit for everything you can” style?

      “The Ottoman legacy was a far cry better than the white, european racist colonial rule exercised in africa, asia and south america up to the and beyond the WW2 ending with the French defeat in Vietnam and Algeria.”

      Let’s see: the “white, european racist colonial[ists]” are what made it possible to you to spread your unsubstantiated, hatred-fueled, racist smears for everyone to see, regardless of their geographic location. But it’s easy to understand why you have White Europeans, seeing how they *forced* the Turks to stop collecting jyziah from non-muslim dhimmies in the “Sick Man of Europe” empire. They also ended slavery via brute force. As for their legacy in Africa and South America, poverty-stricken hellholes that some South-American countries are, they’re still leagues better than any former Ottoman province that didn’t benefit from the “white, european racist colonial[ists]” you’re decrying. BTW, you might want to get your facts straight – do a little homework and research and you’ll find out that what went wrong with South American hellholes was communism/socialism, not the result of “white, european racist colonial” “oppression”. Especially considering that European colonialism in the Americas ended in the 19th century, not after WWII. As for Asia, I’d much rather live in Hong Kong, Macau, Japan, or any other “white, european racist colonial” influenced area than in a Turkish Ottoman muslim influenced area. You know, the areas where non-muslims are treated as sub-human garbage, women have the right to be raped if they’re not wearing “appropriate” clothing (and we know how muslim males are always happy to grant them that right, with bonus points if they’re white and/or American/European), thieves have their hands chopped off, converting from islam can cost one’s life, etc.

      But hey, facts don’t matter, right? Everything wrong in the world can be blamed on “white, european racist colonial[ists]”, who, as recorded history shows us, were being colonized by what would be known as the Turkish Ottoman Empire centuries before they ventured into Asia, South America or Africa. And it’s funny how the “white, european racist” people who lived in White Europe (who, BTW, build the Colosseum of Rome or the Parthenon in Greece back when Anatolia was still in the hands of their rightful inhabitants) when muslims came pouring in from Africa, raping, killing and plundering kept on fighting until they drove them out – I guess that being a province of a muslim empire isn’t all that’s cracked out to be, eh?

      P.S.: you talk about how the “richness and contributions of turkish. ottoman civilzation to the lands and peoples comprising the Ottoman Empire“. How about telling how those lands came to be a part of the Sick Man’s empire? How about telling us what the Sick Man empire did to those “white racist european” nations who refused to convert to islam and join the Sick Man’s empire?

    • Avenger says

      Dec 31, 2015 at 2:36 am

      Falsafa please try to understand that your claim of “racism” shows your educational level.
      Any basic Anthropology 101 class would show you that there are three races of Humans- they are Mongolians, Negroids and Caucasian.
      If you are a Turk you are most likely a Caucasian unless your Ottoman ancestors bred with a slaves from sub-Saharan Africa or Mongol conquerors who pillaged the Anatolia.
      In other words and this makes me ill, you are the same as any Ukrainian, Armenian, Italian, Norwegian or Croatian. So get over the race thing.

      Imagine also if the Greek captains and crews, who manned your Ottoman navies, would have discovered the New World before the West Europeans. l dare say there would be no native Americans alive today, unless as a nurtured slave class.

      The only claim to fame that you have Falsafa is that Hitler used Turkish culture when he formed the Third Reich.

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