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Chris Hayes, MSNBC absolutely baffled as to SB jihadi murderer’s motive

Dec 4, 2015 7:21 am By Robert Spencer

Let’s see. He was in contact with known jihadis. He was, according to officials, “radicalized.” He frequented a mosque and had memorized the Qur’an. He had recently traveled to Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Yes, his motive is utterly baffling! We may never know what it was!

“Chris Hayes & Co. Baffled By San Bernardino Motive,” by Mark Finkelstein, NewsBusters, December 3, 2015:

Rudy Giuliani has said that if you can’t figure out that what happened in San Bernardino was an act of terror, “you’re a moron.” But from Chris Hayes, to the FBI, to a representative of the Muslim community, to a Mother Jones reporter, to President Obama himself, one thing emerged from Hayes’ MSNBC show tonight: they’re all terribly confused and cautious about what possibly could have been the “motive” of the San Bernardino shooters.

Check out the video montage. It would be comical but for the heinous circumstances—and the unwillingness of the country’s political, media and religious leaders to call out radical Islamic terrorism when they see it.

CHRIS HAYES: The FBI’s been very careful about attributing motive here so far, it seems they really want to make sure they’ve penetrated down to the bedrock before they come out and say anything definitive.

PETE WILLIAMS: From the president on down. The president, the attorney general, the FBI officials here in Washington, the special agent in charge in LA, and the county and city authorities. They’re all saying much the same: we don’t know why they did it.

. . .

CAIR OFFICIAL: It’s mind-boggling. Really, we’re all waiting for the results of the investigation to know the real motives. What could have made someone snap like that?

. . .

PRESIDENT OBAMA: It’s possible that this was terrorist related. But we don’t know. It’s also possible that this was workplace related.

CHRIS HAYES: Authorities are still trying to establish a clear motive in yesterday’s shooting rampage.

. . .

MARK FOLLMAN: Well, as you were just describing, Chris, the confluence of possible motive here is really fascinating, as much as this case is really horrifying. That this may have been some kind of workplace violence combined with some kind of ideological, terrorism-related motive….

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  1. Peter says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 7:26 am

    Maybe the delusional Left will come up with a new mental disorder classification to substitute for the reality of Islamic supremacism and predatory Jihad:

    “Traditional Marriage Synapse Misfiring Syndrome” (TMSMS)?

  2. Michael Copeland says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 7:29 am

    Let us beat Cameron and May to it by announcing “This has nothing to do with Islam”.
    There. Feeling better?

    • Rob says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 11:24 am

      With the absurdities (sickness) taking place with the western leaders/media, the best thing I can say is in my song, ‘Nothing to do with islam’. Here it is:

      • Dr. Divinity says

        Dec 5, 2015 at 1:51 pm

        Great song ought to be # 1 on the charts

    • DP111 says

      Dec 5, 2015 at 5:47 am

      I’m, afraid that “This has nothing to do with Islam”, is yesterdays Truth.

      The Ministry of Truth is working hard get a new Truth out before the new year.

      Watch the space.

  3. Michael Copeland says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 7:40 am

    Were those actual clips or a Monty Python satire?

  4. Pig Jizya says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 7:42 am

    Cris Hayes at the end say “maybe the motive will never be knowable”. Yes it will go down like Big Foot, the Loc Ness Monster, or the origin of the universe.

    What a dishonest scumbag.

    • Don McKellar says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 8:18 am

      Isn’t that completely astonishing to hear from a “journalist”? But this is the media age in which we live. I agree, it’s like he thinks it’s paranormal! He is a piece of garbage, not a journalist.

  5. montedoro44 says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 7:43 am

    Always good to clarify with this classic:

  6. john spielman says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 8:29 am

    I DUNNO, may be the lesson here is 1) not to work with, nor go near any muslim at any time. 2) make sure you don’t live too close to them either, in case their bomb making factory (home) detonates prematurely

  7. old white guy says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:00 am

    this Chris Hayes guy is just one more of the terminally stupid. I wonder, is the whole world becoming suicidal, it sure seems that way. willful ignorance will get them what they want.

    • SpiritOf1683 says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 6:10 pm

      Its the West that is suicidal. It seems the Russians know better.

  8. dragaozao says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:01 am

    They don’t know, they don’t want to know, they’ll never know. This is the left. Ideology doesn’t work? Things simply go wrong? WHY?????? I don’t know!!!! So, let’s try the same again, and again, and again…

  9. Jura says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:05 am

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1BLgXCaK5w
    🙂

  10. Goat Pimp says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:05 am

    Now I’m not saying for sure that this was workplace violence, but it could be. If the investigators and news media are still trying to find a motive I can tell you from personal experience that I’ve attended some of these office Christmas parties and found myself at the end of the buffet line where all the good stuff has been taken and only that opaque lime green Jello **** is left. I’ll admit there has been a time or two when I was tempted to storm out, drive home, find my wife, don our body armor, grab our sophisticated weaponry and bombs, drop the kid off at grandma’s, head back to the party, and shoot the place up. But again I’m not saying for sure that this was Syed and Tashfeen’s motive. It could have been something else altogether. The only thing we know for certain is that it wasn’t Muslim extremism.

    -sarc off-

  11. PRCS says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:11 am

    Mere “radical Islam” has been replaced by style guide euphemism du jour “radical Islamic terrorism”.

    Many of the GOP presidential candidates–if not all of them–use it; Ted Cruz to a syrupy, unbearable degree.

    “Journalists”, television news “personalities”, and talking heads parrot it.

    Wraak! They’re radicals.

    Wrakk! They were radicalized.

    Wrakk! Radical Islamic terrorists.

    Surely, at least some of them MUST realize how stupid and gutless those regurgitations are.

  12. Georg says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 10:00 am

    “…fundamentally unknowable…”

    Slippin’ and a slidin’ Freudian-stye

  13. Jay Boo says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 10:02 am

    “The FBI’s been very careful about attributing motive here so far”
    ——————————————

    Refugees to be vetted by the FBI — ???

    Very reassuring

  14. James Read says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 10:57 am

    What I would like to know is if anyone has any links to debates between clerics such as Amjen Choudary and actual Muslim scholars that dispute his teachings about Islam. Where are the schools that teach theology that directly contradicts his interpretations of Islam. If Islam is so peaceful why are clerics like this not confronted?

    The second question I have is why does the press in the West not ask this same question? Why is Islam given a free pass to just issue press releases stating what it wants but never has any challenge to it?

  15. Patrick Constantine says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 12:53 pm

    To CAIR and all the other “moderate muslim” (if they exist) apologists:

    Step away from the fresh stack of dead bodies just killed by these jihadis, and answer this question:

    How much money have you donated to the survivors and families of the victims of this jihad?

    How much money have you donated to the families of the 21 egyptian copts murdered by al quaeda in LIbya? (aside: how many Christians did Gadafi behead, HIllary? how many Christians did Saddam behead, Mr. Bush? How many Christians has Bashar Assad beheaded, Mr Obama?)

    This will determine whether we should listen to a thing these muslim apologists say. And where are the moderate muslims of Belgium? they are sheltering the most wanted man in the world in their homes and mosques. And in the very city where Nato is headquartered!

    Have we all awoken from a nightmare to realize it is no dream at all?

  16. ballotcode says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 2:08 pm

    What Rudy said, you’d have to be a moron to not know why.

  17. Myxlplik says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 2:42 pm

    “Unknowable”…. Hahahahahahaha. I love all the looks Chris was giving, brow crinkled looking very concerned and confused under those glasses. I bet he practices that in the mirror.

    No, no this wouldn’t have anything to do with Islam/jihad , immigration and demographics… No, it’s just another unknowable problem. Next LGBT rights, and the Kardashians at 5 after this quick break… Blah blah blah

  18. Angemon says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 2:49 pm

    Let’s see. He was in contact with known jihadis. He was, according to officials, “radicalized.” He frequented a mosque and had memorized the Qur’an. He had recently traveled to Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. Yes, his motive is utterly baffling! We may never know what it was!

    I have a theory. One of his coworkers could plant vegetables on his backyard while Farook couldn’t. Because of global cooli… warm… climate change.

  19. vlparker says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    It absolutely amazes me how many incredibly stupid people there are in the world. They deny what is right in front of their faces.

  20. SpiritOf1683 says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 6:06 pm

    Pipe bombs, assault rifles, thousands of rounds of ammunition and then they can’t join the dots. They didn’t get that lot just 24 hours earlier. No wonder the West looks doomed with these lamebrains in charge.

  21. Buddy Rogers says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 10:28 pm

    Here’s is something that will allow you to connect the dots 1..2…3 and instantly total it to 6.

    Make believe in your out of touch with realty mind these two sweetyhearts were “TEA Party Muslims”, you G. D. dummy.
    You would be screaming to the rafters they were terrorists then, Wouldn’t you?

  22. Retired Marine 50% combat disabled, the other half just old says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:29 am

    We few, we happy few, we band of Jihadies; they who kill kafirs with us shall shall be our brothers. By Shakespere’s time they had been at it for a thousand years. But, our President and his lackey media whores can’t spot the trend? Give me a break!

  23. Judi says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 7:43 am

    The wife could have had a bad case of post-natal depression. Don’t be too hard on the poor girl! (Sarc/off).

  24. Smitty says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    Chris Hayes has the deeper voice. That’s how I tell the difference between Chris and Rachel. Their spechiel is the same.

  25. steve says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 1:15 am

    Maybe the killers were just having a bad day after watching msnbc and thought they were going to their offices to show them how infidels are treated for lousy reporting in islamist countries.

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