Loretta Lynch’s statement warning that “Islamophobic” speech would be prosecuted was just another in a long line of statements opposing the freedom of speech from Obama Administration officials.
It will be interesting to see if she does prosecute Walsh. He was speaking in strong terms, but what he said was essentially accurate — there is obviously a problem with Islam, and it does include a refusal to assimilate. Muslim states around the world really don’t uphold the same values upon which the U.S. is based. This could be a most revealing prosecution.
“Former Congressman Unleashes on Attorney General in Rant Against Islam: ‘Go Ahead and Prosecute Me. I Dare You.,’” by Kaitlyn Schallhorn, The Blaze, December 5, 2015:
A former U.S. congressman urged Attorney General Loretta Lynch to arrest him after she warned on Thursday that her office would take a more aggressive approach to those spewing anti-Muslim rhetoric.
“I think Islam has a real freaking problem, alright?” Former Illinois Rep. Joe Walsh said in a video posted to his Facebook page. “There is a cancer in Islam, and if they’re not going to learn to assimilate, I don’t want them in this country.”
“You got a problem, Loretta Lynch, with me saying that? Then throw me in jail,” Walsh, a conservative talk show host, argued. “I think Islam is evil. I think Islam has a huge problem. I think most Muslims around the world are not compatible with American values. I don’t want them here.”
Walsh continued to slam Lynch in his video for the comments she made at Muslim Advocate’s 10th anniversary dinner one day after law enforcement officials say two people opened fire at a holiday party in San Bernardino, California, leaving 14 people dead and more than one dozen injured. According to reports, the wife pledged allegiance to the Islamic State on her Facebook page just moments before the attack.
“When we talk about the First Amendment we [must] make it clear that actions predicated on violent talk are not American. They are not who we are, they are not what we do, and they will be prosecuted,” Lynch said at the banquet. “My message not just to the Muslim community but to all Americans is: we cannot give in to the fear that these backlashes are really based on.”
Walsh, who now hosts his own radio program, served in Congress from 2011 to 2013.
In text that included some stronger language accompanying his video, which has been viewed more than 110,000 times as of Saturday morning, Walsh continued to argue that “most Muslims around the world are terrorists, support terrorism and/or support Sharia Law.”…
Krampus says
The far left would love to tear up the Constitution. Glad we have the 2nd.
Perry says
Yep!
Westman says
Ditto!
eduardo odraude says
Looks like he is intentionally treading a very fine line. He said he was encouraging a “backlash,” but if taken to court, he could claim he did not mean violence. And maybe he didn’t. And I imagine in ambiguous cases to do with language that might imply violence but does not explicitly call for it, the First Amendment tends to win in court. So I’m guessing the AG won’t touch him, because it would be a losing battle since he did not explicitly call for violence. This is also how imams get away with stuff in the U.S. Jihadist-encouraging imams do not explicitly call for violence, but they imply it in various ways, and they may have available jihad-supportive literature in their mosque.
somehistory says
We will most likely be hearing about him and this subject again. And probably in the near future.
Either he has freedom to speak his mind, or he doesn’t. And that freedom is supposed to be guaranteed to all of us.
God gave us freedom to speak, to approach Him with what is in our hearts and to express ourselves.
lynch and others are trying to take it away. It will be interesting and informative to see how Mr. Walsh proceeds and what, if anything, lynch does about it.
Perry says
Under what CFR will he be prosecuted? If is there is one tucked away somewhere, will anyone who offends Christianity or Judaism also be prosecuted?
eduardo odraude says
Here’s part of what the attorney general said.
“Now obviously this is a country that’s based on free speech. But when it edges towards violence, when we see the potential for someone to lift…lifting that mantle of anti-Muslim rhetoric, or, as we saw after 9/11, violence directed at individuals who may not even be Muslims but may be perceived to be Muslims, um, and they will suffer just as well, just as much, uh when we see that we will take action.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBkPcRSi03o
She used the word “mantle,” spoke of “lifting that mantle of anti-Muslim rhetoric,” but seems to have meant something like “banner,” not mantle. In old armies, sometimes a soldier would help rally his army by lifting the army’s banner or flag and carrying it forward in an attack on the enemy. She was in effect warning against someone using anti-Muslim rhetoric as a banner intended to gather a warlike mob to do violence against Muslims.
The words I quoted from Lynch, and other parts of her statement, to me sound like she was unintentionally vague in what she said, but that all she meant to say was that people who are violent against innocent Muslims would be prosecuted. She was clumsy in discussing anti-Muslim rhetoric in relation to such violence, and as a result one cannot tell absolutely for sure if she was threatening also to prosecute mere rhetoric. But I think it’s fairly clear that’s not what she meant. I think the only rhetoric she might prosecute is “hate rhetoric” someone utters while in the process of committing a violent crime or while engaging in some kind of illegal discrimination. Where a perpetrator utters “hate speech” while doing criminal violence, the crime in current law is I believe upgraded to a so-called “hate crime,” and speech in that case then would in effect be prosecuted.
In response to ISIS and the terror attacks, the chorus of Islam criticism seems to be rising significantly, and I suppose among commenters on the internet anger over the endless jihad is leading more commenters than before to blow off steam by carelessly advocating violent solutions against the object of anger. But I think most suggestions of violence I’ve seen in comments around the internet were not a matter of serious violent intent. They were just venting anger, blowing off steam, symbolically crushing the enemy, as when one throws something say at a wall and does so precisely because one would not actually throw something at a real person. I hope it stays that way, because the rule of law is always to be preferred to rule by mobs. Anything done against jihad or Islam must be done via the law.
PRCS says
I agree.
The problem for her: while what she said was most likely a gaffe, it IS what she said.
I expect she’ll be clarifying that part of her statement soon.
In the meantime, Pataki and Walsh are quite right to challenge her based upon her statement; gaffe or not.
eduardo odraude says
I agree it is right to challenge her on the statement, gaffe or not. I don’t know if Pataki and Walsh’s way of challenging was optimally helpful to the cause of freedom, but that’s a whole different question.
vlparker says
Too bad he’s not still in Congress. I listen to his radio show once in a while and he is a great patriot. I don’t say that lightly, because there are so few of them and they are almost non-existent in Washington.
vlparker says
And he is absolutely right, there should be a backlash. Not a backlash of violence, but a backlash of incessant rhetoric telling the truth about islam. Islam should be ridiculed at every opportunity and exposed for the evil that it is.
abad says
He sounds like someone who should run for President.
But maybe Trump will have a place for him as Attorney General when Loretta Lynch goes out.
Yes.
Laurence says
Well he has got balls I’ll give him that; whether he went to far in his impassioned rant I suppose we may soon find out.
mortimer says
Agreeing with retired Representative Joe Walsh. He says ‘Islam has a problem.’ I believe Islam has many problems.
Islam has inherent problems that are contradictions to modern human rights and civil liberties:
1 No Golden Rule 2 No free speech 3 No democracy 4 Jihad – holy war of world conquest 5 Honour killings 6 Taqiyya – sacred lying 7 Taqlid – group think 8 Misogyny – repression of women 9 Rape of kafirs as jihad prizes 10 Genocide 11 Ethnic cleansing 12 Anti-Semitism 13 Al-Walaa wal-Baraa – Islamic apartheid 14 Torture 15 Plundering 16 Cruel and unusual punishments 17 Backwardness – stagnation 18 Violence against women 19 Slavery 20 Discriminatory Sharia law 21 Hatred of the arts 22 Pedophilia disguised as child marriage 23 Fifty generations of cousin marriage and genetic defects 24 Cruelty to animals 25 Extortion tax to humiliate disbelievers 26 No historic basis 27 Anti-intellectual obscurantism 28 FGM 29 Arab racism 30 Theocratic totalitarianism 31 Vigilantism 32 Supremacism
Islam is a Bronze Age Death Cult combined with Arab racism and a totalitarian political system.
Jay Boo says
Attorney General Loretta Lynch has forgotten that a Hate Crime has been committed against Christians and Jews at a Christmas party.
Where is her outrage.
mortimer says
Attorney General Loretta Lynch is trying to impose Sharia blasphemy law upon Americans, making Sharia superior to the US Constitution.
This makes her a dhimmi, a non-Muslim who is a pawn of Islam.
Voltaire wrote: “To learn who rules over you, simply find out whom you are not allowed to criticize.”
خَليفة says
It also makes her a traitor
JBubs says
“Hate crime” is what makes it possible for a federal apparatchik like Loretta Lynch to utter this fascist tripe in the first place. Hate crime is an illegitimate, anti-American concept that only recently was accepted into the American legal system.
It is but one example of the fruits of Cultural Marxism. the seeds of which were planted here by Antonio Gramsci about two generations ago. The goal of Gramsci and his successors was to slowly and steadily infiltrate U.S. academia, art, entertainment, media, and the government itself with Marxist concepts, concepts that were couched in innocuous sounding language and imagery. In time the social, intellectual, spiritual and political fabric of this country would be weakened incrementally so that it would become ripe for political take over. America thus would end “not with a bang but a whimper”.
Your blind spot to the concept of hate crime is more proof that Cultural Marxism has successful.
William A Sager says
Because in her mind there is no such thing as hate crimes against whites,only justice.
Mo says
Islam doesn’t “have a problem.”
Islam IS the problem.
خَليفة says
Agreed.
Jay Boo says
Not a religion — an EXCUSE
Islam is a religious hate crime posing as a religion.
mortimer says
Islam is called a “DEEN” by Muslims. One of the meanings is ‘religion’, but its root means ‘a legal system or a system of governance’.
Islam is an INTOLERANT Bronze Age DEATH CULT combined with Arab racism and a totalitarian political system.
Islam fits the bill of any definition of a RELIGIOUS CULT. Mohammed was similar to JIM JONES. Mohammed asked his followers to die for him and kill for him…because he said so. Mohammed had sex with any woman he wanted. Mohammed murdered anyone he wanted. Mohammed made any rule he wanted or cancelled it if he wanted. Mohammed never wrote down the Koran to keep people from reading his inconsistencies.
Krampus says
“Islam is a Bronze Age Death Cult combined with Arab racism and a totalitarian political system.”
Great analogy.
underbed cat says
Loretta Lynch threatens to prosecute islamic slander (which is any speech a muslim would find offensive, even if the facts were true and found in the koran?) So she would be following sharia law? Is Loretta Lynch a muslim? So has Obama signed into legislation offensive speech laws about Islam and changed the Constitution freedom of speech? Could I prosecute a muslim if they call me a infidel, or the worst of all creatures and it offends me?
What state did ex-congressman Walsh represent? What is a mantel of speech? So, Lynch would not allow criticism of Jews, Christians and an atheist? How about conservatives?
“The future does not beloing to those who slander the prophet of Islam”, funny thing I know what that means and it offends me.
mortimer says
LYNCH CONTRADICTS THE US CONSTITUTION!
To Attorney General Loretta Lynch, I say “THERE IS NO OFFICIAL AMERICAN STATE RELIGION.”
It is impossible to impose a BLASPHEMY LAW upon Americans. Why?
U.S. law values and permits the right to blaspheme because there is NO ESTABLISHED ‘AMERICAN RELIGION’.
What is ‘sacred’ to one person may be highly ‘blasphemous’ to another. Without an officially defined AMERICAN religion, it is not the responsibility of American judges to intervene.
-Justice Clark in 1952 wrote: “…it is enough to point out that the state has no
legitimate interest in protecting any or all religions from views distasteful
to them. … It is not the business of government in our nation to suppress real
or imagined attacks upon a particular religious doctrine.”
-Justice Frankfurter noted that beliefs that are “…dear to one may seem the rankest ‘sacrilege’ to another,” and added concerning “sacrilegious” speech: “…history does not encourage reliance on the wisdom and moderation of the censor.”
This reflects the US law regarding ‘blasphemy’ as it sits today. LYNCH CANNOT CHANGE IT.
She should be FIRED for thinking she could repress freedom to blaspheme. SHE IS NOT INTELLECTUALLY PREPARED FOR HER JOB.
mortimer says
Loretta Lynch is telling Americans not to fear jihad…if you are aware and realize the serious of jihad and you warn others about it, she will prosecute you.
Let me say it another way that will reveal the absurdity of that: “Loretta Lynch is telling Americans not to fear Nazism…if you are aware and realize the serious of the Master Race Theory and you warn others about it, she will prosecute you.”
Hitlerism had the Master Race Theory. Muslims have the Master Religion Theory. They are not all that different.
Jay Boo says
Hey Loretta,
Auntie Em is calling you back to the reality farm.
It is time to click your heel together three times.
A Flying donkey awaits to haul you off to jail.
Westman says
There are so many instructions in Islamic ideology that are incompatible with democracy that only disallowing them from evidence, as the EU Kangaro Court is doing to Geert Wilders, would get any traction with an educated judge. And, here, unlike the Dhimmi EU, such antics would be struck down by the Supreme Court. Thank God that we live in a real democracy and can get rid of our oppressors.
They would never be able to bankrupt Walsh, either. So many Americans would contribute to his defense that he wouldn’t need a dime.
underbed cat says
“Blazing Saddles “video’s are going to be in hot demand! High anxiety for sure! Airplort will be band, oh no……Jabar…”listen kid”…..
Jay Boo says
Obama bows to Islam and is down on his knees.
Christmas is approaching.
Christians are cutting down trees.
Obama is scathing about deforestation.
Loretta is pleading to arrest all who mock Islam.
Satan is pleased.
TJFreedomjihad says
JB, nicely said, sums up perfectly, the whole ‘bloody mess’ we are in, succinctly.
This whole mess we are in, makes the classic eternal struggle modeled in the story of Les Miserable, a clean heaven, even in the sewers below Paris, compared to the filth we have do deal with, in this time……..
All wars are filthy, but this one, especially so. It would not be so much so if America were not ever and yet, exceptional! All the more so because of the resident imposter in chief and minions. So many have said well, so much here, at Robert’s place. So grateful am I for this steadfast knowledge, dedication, courage, and professional high standards, which Robert Spencer and commenters display, here at JW. Also, David Horowitz, and Dan, and others.
In tonight’s address, remember this comment, It is said by the imposter, that all rights must be regulated. Remember, so too and before anything else is regulated, the religion of evil must be highly regulated and restricted, and licensed. Goose and gander, right? Also the other bully non-religion, gang like, you know, the cheap pulp fiction writer’s one, that bullied the irs into declaring it one, must be reversed.
So many here thankfully know we are in a hot fight with ‘allah is the best of deceivers’ satanic gang of criminal islam. I do quote the medina mohammet brag, in this paragraph, beware all, the devil’s deceivers, in America, but never shirk from the ‘brought upon us’ struggle, neither deserved nor requested.
Jay Boo says
Some temporary good news tonight. Obama blinked just a bit and conceded some ground.
He can only step in so many piles of Islam before he must shake a foot to hide the ‘evidence’ on the top of his shoes.
Jihad Watch, Facebook and other sources are holding their own in the information wars.
TJFreedomjihad says
BRAVO! With the AG’s remarks, it is clear as can be, that all of islam should be outlawed, banned and declared illegal finally, in America, eternally, since all three “sacred” criminal gang’s books, including the oh so important law (sharia), is all about commanded and blessed pure hatred and violence and evil, done by no judge and jury, but as a command, to, of, and, by any individual member. Further within the gang, such crimes are stated in such a way, especially within the penultimate hadiths, that about all criminal acts have a way to be blessed, or without punishment, such as honor killing. Further, it is in part a gang organized like army ants, which sacrifice each self, and organize each self for the group success, with major differences as well. (And don’t forget the laughable whorehouse in the sky reward, for the martyrs deaths, hmmmmm, a lotta dirty minds!!!) But I repeat myself……
Specifically, that the killings recently in SB and 27,000 other global attacks, so far, since 9-11 ARE DUE TO THE VIOLENCE, HATRED, AND HEINOUS CRIMES THAT ARE ALL CALLED FOR WITHIN THE PRINTED MATERIALS OF THE GANG OF ISLAM’S OFFICIAL STRUCTURE, IN THE FINAL AND EFFECTIVE MEDINA EDITION AND VERSION, ARE EASILY, PROVABLY, BLESSED AND COMMANDED BY THEIR LEADERS, BOTH MOHAMMET AND ALLAH, and said commands, blessings, are present verbally, mostly in writing, and also within other collaterals, within 80% of American mosks, according to a well-known and recent valid research program.
Specifically in America, “In truth, only one Muslim has been murdered in a targeted hate crime on American soil since 9-11. In that time, 73 people have been killed in 33 Islamic terror attacks in the United States – plus an additional 16 murdered by family members for un-Islamic behavior”.[honor killings of beautiful girls] AG, see details of these “wonderfully motivated peoples” no doubt to the crazies, the brainwashed and the otherwise paranoid schizo psychos of the land that they “behave just like the charitable goodness admonished Christians”, who are supposed to live in goodness, and occasionally fall short, here: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/americanattacks.htm
Should be good enough stats for court, likely…….
ALSO, NOTE THAT TONIGHT, JUDGE JEANNINE ADMONISHED ALL AMERICANS, IN HER OPENING REMARKS, TO GET SERIOUS IN SELF DEFENSE, WITH PLANS AND BUY A GUN, ANY KIND OF GUN THAT YOU CAN HANDLE AND DO NOT LET ANYONE TALK YOU OUT OF IT, AMONG A LIST OF OTHER STEPS TO DEADLY SERIOUS SELF DEFENSE STEP AMERICANS MUST TAKE, NOW! 5 STEPS SHE RECOMMENDED, TONIGHT.
SHE CLOSED HER OPENING WITH THIS STATEMENT “WE ARE LIVING IN DANGEROUS TIMES, THE JACKALS ARE AT THE DOOR!!!”
Note also these people addressed AG today, here: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/12/04/tancredo-organize-state-local-militias-to-defend-against-radical-islamist-assaults/
and here, of course this article:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/12/islamocritical-ex-congressman-to-atty-general-prosecute-me-i-dare-you#respond
I advocate following the Swiss standard, of a high power rifle in every home (like a .223 semi-auto (minimal recoil, good for a woman, man or little person), large mags and at least minimum of 200 rounds), and training, as in a perfectly satisfactory way, way back when I was young but legal, THE DCM (Director of Civilian Marksmanship) distributed perfect condition reconditioned Army surplus guns, at $15 dollars each, way below new price, a 1911 A1 .45 auto, or a .30 cal. Rifle. OUTSTANDING PROGRAM.
Note Tancredo’s great ideas, as well. As has been proven too many times,
Only problem, MANY PEOPLE WILL NEED TO GROW UP IN RESPONSIBILITY (real tough on drunks, alcoholics, drug addicts, and anger management immature children and adult sufferers), and legitimate disturbed), ALL AT ONCE!!! AND SUCH WILL HAPPEN, DUE TO THE SERIOUS NATURE OF REALITY, AND GUNS, WHICH IS IMPOSED, SUDDENLY!
But any day in a millennia, it beats being a slave of a “death cult” as said on Fox by Greg Gutfeld, and it is islam, specifically the koran, said by Gavin on Fox, tonight.
Or one could make the choice of becoming slaves in crime and misery (as OBL had said (there Is no joy in islam?)), just continual fear and anger, as required, forever, with no one else to help free them from tyranny, not even adequate to come to their aid again would be France!!!! And this time the slavery wouldn’t be only blacks, and a few whites, but all people, all that were left of any color, in the slavery pot!!! I’m talking just America, if it were to become islamic, not to mention the other islamic nations, which have plenty of slavery and all other crimes, these days, actually.
More Ham Ed says
It really is a Tiny Minority ™ that doesn’t follow the unholy ko ‘ran very closely. And I can’t find one single muslim who will help me make ham sandwiches.
worldcitizen1919 says
Ok, everyone here is calling Islam evil and the Quran is a book of war and Muhammad is a false Prophet but how do you explain the Baha’is who believe in the Quran as the Word of God and that Muhammad was a Prophet of God and that we cannot be Baha’is if we don’t accept both Muhammad and the Quran YET Baha’is are amongst the most peaceful people on the planet??
That the Baha’i sacred Holy places are in ISRAEL and we love the Jews heaps.our World Centre on prime Israel real estate Mount Carmel of the Bible where it us said in the latter days God would feed His flock from.
In Iran however we are persecuted, killed, tortured, imprisoned and we remain the most persecuted religious minority in the world.
How do you explain this paradox of Baha’is being so peaceful and non violent yet believing in the Quran even more strongly than most Muslims and loving Jews and Christians and Buddhists, Hundus and aetheists all as one human family?
Yet we have been persecuted and oppressed in Iran for over 170 years yet have never taken up arms despite we have about 500,000 members.
If the Quran and Muhammad are what you attribute to Them why aren’t the Baha’is terrorists? Why aren’t we running around bombing people? Baha’is are extremely wealthy and could if they wanted to raise up an army that would dwarf ISIS but why don’t we? Why is our belief in the Quran and Muhammad not a cause of violence for us??
Baha’is are living proof that one can have a healthy belief in both the Quran and Muhammad and be amongst the most peaceful members of humanity and that those who are supposedly committing terrorism in the name of Islam are misusing their religion not following it correctly.
The Baha’is are a paradox exhibiting peace, goodwill, unity of all people and non violent solving in problems through consultation yet believe in the Quran and Prophet Muhammad. How can this be if what many of you say is true?
The Quran and Muhammad has not caused us to become evil or violent. Quite the opposite. I believe that They are both good but that are misused by people with evil motives.
Richard says
“If the Quran and Muhammad are what you attribute to Them why aren’t the Baha’is terrorists?”
Because you believe in other things, other than the Quran and Muhammad, which are possibly peaceful and you choose to willfully ignore the express commandments of Muhammad and his Quran to kill and subjugate the infidel.
Your question is very similar to the one posed by ‘moderate’ Muslims and their apologists asking why they are not terrorists. They too, like you, turn a blind eye to the commandments of this vile book and that reprehensible, murderous megalomaniac, to murder, rape and enslave the non-believers.
These attributes come not from us, but from Muhammad as revealed by the Sira and Hadiths and the Quran itself, which you have obviously not read or chosen willfully to ignore (which is a good thing).
Demsci says
My answer to your questions, while agreeing with by far the most of the opinions of Robert Spencer, would be; Perhaps the religion/ ideology of Islam is very vague, multi-interpretable, incomplete, because obsolete.
When we take into account that after Bukhari-‘s + Muslim’s collection of Hadiths, some 200 years after the supposed death of Mohammed, the core-texts of Islam have not been changed one iota. So are now some 1200 years old,
and when we then point out that all Tafsir and Islamic theology that came after that, was definitely manmade and fallible, then we might consider to say that the instructions and advice that Muslims supposedly received from allah are very faulty and mankind frequently produced much clearer and better ideologies than Islam, like democratic ideology.
So the Bahai’s really follow low quality vague multi-interpretable instructions and advice and perhaps made and practiced the most peaceful possible interpretation of them.
CogitoErgoSum says
Apparently, Bahai’s do not believe Muhammad was Allah’s final messenger and that some of Muhammad’s message was in need of modification by another messenger. Apparently, Bahai’s believe that all religions are equally acceptable to Allah. Apparently, Bahai’s have not had a great deal of success in getting these ideas accepted by the Sunni and Shia branches of Islam because of previously established laws against bidah and blasphemy … but good luck to you anyway, especially in avoiding the punishment prescribed for such actions.
vlparker says
I can’t help it if you can’t read.
Dennis says
I have Baha’is in my family, they have read little of the Quran. Theoretically they accept the Quran and Mohammed as a prophet. But do not go into it. Surely there is so much in the Quran which is violent and which the Baha’s reject. Their religion is peaceful, universalist and tolerant, as compared to many other religions. They accept only parts of the Quran which is why a new prophet comes to abrogate it. Their religion is not based on the Quran. They have, likethe Ahmadiyyeh movement, a new holy book. It is not fair to say that their religion is based on Mohammed and his holy book.
dswami says
Can he be prosecuted in your country? Which happens to be the last bastion of freedom.
eduardo odraude says
To me it looks like the attorney general probably was NOT talking about prosecuting mere criticism of Islam or Muslims.
She was talking only about prosecuting anti-Muslim talk that includes calls for violence against Muslims. She was also talking about “hate speech” uttered by someone while committing a violent crime. Here’s part of what the attorney general said.
“Now obviously this is a country that’s based on free speech. But when it edges towards violence, when we see the potential for someone to lift…lifting that mantle of anti-Muslim rhetoric, or, as we saw after 9/11, violence directed at individuals who may not even be Muslims but may be perceived to be Muslims, um, and they will suffer just as well, just as much, uh when we see that we will take action.” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBkPcRSi03o
She used the word “mantle,” spoke of “lifting that mantle of anti-Muslim rhetoric,” but seems to have meant something like “banner,” not mantle. In old armies of course, sometimes a soldier would help rally his army by lifting the army’s banner or flag and carrying it forward in an attack on the enemy. The attorney general was in effect warning against anyone using anti-Muslim rhetoric as a banner intended to gather a warlike mob to do violence against Muslims.
The words I quoted from Lynch, and other parts of her statement, to me sound like she was unintentionally vague in what she said. She was clumsy in discussing anti-Muslim rhetoric in relation to violence, and as a result one cannot tell absolutely for sure if she was threatening also to prosecute mere rhetoric. But I think it’s pretty clear from what she said that she was NOT threatening to prosecute mere Islam criticism. .
In response to ISIS and the terror attacks, the chorus of Islam criticism seems to be rising significantly, and I suppose among commenters on the internet anger over the endless jihad is leading more commenters than before to blow off steam by carelessly advocating violent solutions that take the law into one’s own hands against the object of anger. But I think most advocacy of lawless violence I’ve seen in comments around the internet were not a matter of serious violent intent. They were just venting anger, symbolically crushing the enemy, as when one throws something say at a wall and does so because one would not actually throw something at a real person. In any case, the rule of law is always to be preferred to rule by mobs. Anything done against jihad or Islam must be done within the bounds of the law.
VIRGINIA GOMEZ says
I STAND WITH JOE WALSH!!!!
gerard says
Nice to know that there are still some people who have a pair.
Ren says
Lorette Lynch, you dumb lady muslim’s ass licker !
sidney penny says
“When we talk about the First Amendment we [must] make it clear that actions predicated on violent talk are not American. They are not who we are, they are not what we do, and they will be prosecuted,” –Loretta Lynch Attorney General
To Loretta Lynch Attorney Genera-there is plenty of actions predicated on violent talk in this book (see below) so why not say:
The actions predicated on violent talk in this book.are not American. They are not who we are, they are not what we do, and the book’s author and his followers will be prosecuted,” –Loretta Lynch Attorney General
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/tcqp/index.htm
http://voiceofdharma.org/books/tcqp/chii4.htm
The Calcutta Quran Petition
The Koran, also spelt as Quran, the so-called religious book of the Muslims the world over.
It is a Book which incites violence, disturbs public tranquility, promotes, on ground of religion, feelings of enmity, hatred and ill-will between different religious communities and insults other religions or religious beliefs of other communities.
Non-Muslims have to learn to knock out Islam’s ideological fangs which are rooted in the Quran.
The Book has verses which preaches cruelty, incites violence and disturbs public tranquility. Chapter 4
The book promotes religious enmity, hatred and ill-will between different religious communities. Chapter 5
The book insults other religions or religious beliefs of other communities. Chapter 6
While the Koran abounds with saying which incite violence, insult the religious beliefs of other communities and even exhort the Muslims to kill and murder non-Muslims, the problem is aggravated by yet another fact which has been true in the past and is universally true in our own times that unlike other communities Muslims are, and even fresh converts tend to become, highly orthodox people and follow the sayings of the book with a fanatical zeal with the result that whichever country has their sizable number amongst its population can never have peace on its soil.
This was said in 1985 and it is still true today 2015
The offending expressions contained in the Koran and quoted above are not so offensive in their translation in which they are so quoted as they are in the original verses in Arabic or in Urdu, the very sound of whose inimitable symphony not only sends the Muslims to tears and ecstasy but arouses in them the worst communal passions and religious fanaticism which have manifested themselves in murder, slaughter, loot, arson, rape and destruction or desecration of holy places in historical times as also in contemporary period not only in India but almost all over the world.
Creole Gumbo says
YES!
SoCalMike says
Obama and the Left have been trying to impose Sharia on us since he came into office.
When Hillary signed onto the OIC law banning hatred of religion (read: Islam) to when she and Obama scapegoated and prosecuted the no name film maker for the disaster they created in Benghazi to this trash Loretta Lynch now.
They are enemies.
They think of us as enemies so we need to start thinking of them as enemies.
Lloyd Miller says
How long before Jihad Watch can face the fact that our financial, business, and political elites have been purchased by Saudi and other Muslim money bags and bow to the dictates of their Muslim Masters?
Angemon says
Islam is a cancer.
? says
Stage 4…
duh_swami says
‘Loretta the Lyncher’ should be removed from office before she says or does something stupid…
CatW says
Thank you, Joe! It’s been a long time since I I was proud of anything or anyone in Illinois.
Great comment!!
Kittycat says
Finally we hear a man who has some backbone! and says it the way it is. Well said Joe. I’m a Brit and we have the same stupid rhetoric coming from our political elite and media. The truth of this darned problem it seems is beginning to dawn as the difficulties nations are experiencing around the western world with death and mayhem in the streets is on an ever increasing curve. The world leaders are trying to pussy-foot with a wild beast – this approach has never worked and will never work.