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Mass shooting in California, at least 20 victims, suspect Farooq Saeed sought

Dec 2, 2015 4:48 pm By Robert Spencer

RT France, not the American media, is reporting the name of the suspect:

Farooq Saeed

Middle Eastern males

Police are searching for Middle Eastern males (thanks to Pamela Geller):

The San Diego Tribune reports:

Riverside police dispatchers have broadcast a general advisory that the suspects involved in the shootings in San Bernardino may have fled in a black GMC Yukon, heading northbound on Waterman Avenue, roughly 40 minutes ago.

The broadcast indicated there were unconfirmed reports the suspects were male and of Middle Eastern origin, “armed with AK-47s and wearing body armor.”

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  1. Angemon says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 4:54 pm

    If/when it’s confirmed to be a muslim:

    Sheesh, bunch of dumb bastards – you had the PP shooter to wave around as the poster child of “white, male Christian” “terrorists”, and you’re to stupid to milk it?

    • John spielman says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 5:48 pm

      How did RT France know the above person’sname ? Are the Russians tapping the US police broadcasting a.

      • saycheese says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 5:53 pm

        Audio San Bernardino Police System:
        http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/12443/web

    • jc says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 8:57 pm

      Yeah, farooq saed sound like a white christian to me, who is the dum! @$$

  2. jimmy says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 4:55 pm

    Let’s not jump into conclusions. It could be anyone. It could be workplace violence between coworkers or random killings of a disturbed mind.

    • saycheese says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 5:33 pm

      This is definitely caused by climate change.

      • Oliver says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 8:27 pm

        Saycheese–you are (semi) correct.

        The climate change- these assholes are usede to living in the desert and alternating between screwing goats and screwing camels. The desert, as you must know- is hot, and dry.

        San Bernadino is in a desert; has rain; some humidity; etc.

        So–climate change–at least for these three pieces of crap. Their climate has changed

    • Westman says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 6:00 pm

      San Bernadino Police Chief: “Domestic terrorism!”

      Obama: “Gun Control!”

      No jumping to conclusions?

      • Eli Barak says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 6:12 pm

        One of the above comments is patently untruthful. It could not have been ‘anybody,’ because it was not me! Perhaps 7 billion people minus 1 are suspect, but I am not.

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 6:55 pm

        Prez Barack Hussein is, without exaggeration, our dictator now. He legislates from the Oval Office. Dictators are always way into gun control. Try buying a sidearm back in the USSR or in Communist China.

    • Tom Davis says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 8:38 pm

      “It could be workplace violence between coworkers”

      Pam Geller is reporting that a Christmas party was attacked. If so they either has inside info or they were extremely ‘lucky’, as it were.

      • quotha raven says

        Dec 3, 2015 at 4:22 pm

        To
        Tom Davis – No mystery; he worked there; he was at the party earlier, before he left in a huff, picked up his wife, dropped the kids off at granny’s, loaded up the bombs and arms, dressed up in combat clothes and returned to the party, guns a-blazin’;

        Cheers!

        quotha raven

    • mortimer says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 9:01 pm

      jimmy wrote: “don’t jump to conclusions”

      What do you conclude from the name ‘Muhammad’?

      Those Seventh Day Amish terrorists are at it again!

  3. Caroline says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 4:56 pm

    Reported here in England as white males. Our media is a disgrace.

    • jimmy says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 5:04 pm

      That’s a good thing. When they notice more lies they will be more suspicious of the media.

    • GuntherL says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 5:20 pm

      No, they call them Asians in England.

    • Peggy says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 8:17 pm

      Same in Australia.

  4. 45charlie says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 5:04 pm

    Ya there is a small chance it is a white sicko but a white Muslim possible aswell.

    • jimmy says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 5:48 pm

      No White Muslims round here and I am surrounded by them in the North of England,

  5. guide inside says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 5:10 pm

    A must read is a book by Prof. William Fortchen titled “Day of Wrath”. He details exactly how isis will bring our nation to its knees by using MULTIPLE teams like the one in San Bernardino. My recommendation is to NOT start reading this book in the evening unless you like being up until dawn. He also wrote the book “One Second After” that A&E or Discovery Channel made into a major viewing event about a year ago.

    • Ed says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 5:55 pm

      I just bought it. THANKS!

    • quotha raven says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 4:35 pm

      To guide inside – I tried to get it on Amazon Books, my usual source, and they had no match at all! Suggestions?

      Cheers!

      quotha raven

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 3, 2015 at 8:38 pm

        Quothat, you can find it here as an ebook–or to read on Kindle–here:

        http://www.amazon.com/Day-Wrath-William-R-Forstchen-ebook/dp/B00MU1NNRO

  6. Christian A. Beltram says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    If ISIS is indeed behind this latest atrocity, it has pulled a new low. Perhaps ISIS is following the example of Neo-Nazi groups which do not like disabled people and would have them euthanized if they ever came to power in this country. One such Neo Nazi group which advocates the euthanasia of disabled people is the Aryan Nations.

    • Lesley says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 5:37 pm

      @Christian:

      Unfortunately, I think that Islamists/ ISIS are just looking for easy targets. I don’t think they distinguish between able bodied people and disabled people. We’re all infidels to them– and we are to be either converted, subjugated, or killed.

      Really, a new low if ISIS claims responsibility? This is worse than selling girls in women into sexual slavery or beheading people? You don’t read the news much, do you?

      Aryan Nation and their ilk are a bunch of jerks, true. Muslims have been committing human rights atrocities in the name of their evil God for 1,400 years… it hardly compares. While you’re catching up on the news, I suggest that you bone up on some history, too. ISIS and other Islamist groups only follow the example of Mohammad.

      I’m sorry for poking at you, Christian. Here’s a great reference (link). It’s a long video (and a really, really good one), but it puts Islam into context throughout history, which makes our current situation make a lot more sense:

      • Lesley says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 5:38 pm

        *girls and women

      • tom says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 8:33 pm

        ” I don’t think they distinguish between able bodied people and disabled people.”

        Actually, there is a history of using kids with Downs syndrome as suicide bombers and as Iranian minefield clearers.

      • Tom Davis says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 8:44 pm

        “I don’t think they distinguish between able bodied people and disabled people.”

        Actually, they have been known to use their own mentally disabled as suicide bombers and Iranian minefield clearers.

    • Lesley says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 5:49 pm

      Actually, the Nazis learned a thing or two from Islam. Today it is not Islamists emulating Neo Nazis, it would be Neo Nazis emulating the attitudes of the Nazis who consulted Muslims during the Holocaust.

      Hitler’s Mufti:
      http://www.catholic.com/magazine/articles/hitlers-mufti

      The evil chicken (Islam) came waaay before the evil egg (neo Nazism).

      • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 6:16 pm

        And the Grand Mufti was the paternal uncle of the pederast pro-mass murder Nobel Peace Prize laureate Yasser Arafat.

    • Toby1 says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 6:12 pm

      In the Paris theater, there were several people in wheechairs watching the show from the balcony. They lined them up and shot them one by one.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Dec 3, 2015 at 4:35 am

        I hadn’t heard that bit. Doesn’t surprise me at all.

        Mohammedans seem to take an *especial* delight in being especially cruel to the weakest and most vulnerable, both among their own, and among the Infidels. I guess it makes them feel powerful…like they are little tin allahs, dealing out pain, fear and death.

        Remember the “Achille Lauro”?

        Klinghoffer? In a wheelchair? Elderly Jewish bloke?

        The jihadi hijackers, the “poor Palestinians [sic]” shot him and dropped him overboard, wheelchair and all.

        Mohammedans have, historically, been known to rape infant girls and toddlers – which means, the victim is grossly mutilated internally and dies – and kill other babies by slitting their little throats, or tossing them upon bayonets.

        There are *no* horrors that Mohammedans are not willing to engage in, when they set out to pour human blood into allah’s insatiable maw.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 3, 2015 at 8:46 pm

        Here’s the horrible story, Toby and DDA:

        “Merciless ISIS gunmen even butchered fans in WHEELCHAIRS: New details emerge of the horrific slaughter in the Bataclan concert hall”

        http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3319886/They-butchered-fans-wheelchairs-Merciless-ISIS-gunmen-slaughtered-music-fans-Bataclan-concert-hall-without-second-thought.html

        For a moment the young man in the yellow shirt escorted out by the police officer appears to be wearing tie-dye–until you realize the swaths of red are actually blood.

    • Janine Lea says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 6:38 pm

      Christian, it’s not just Aryan Nation people who support the murder of the mentally/physically handicapped.
      The democratic party has been supporting it for years.
      Margaret Sanger supported it in her day during the Eugenics movement.
      And the liberals still today support it, in advocating abortion of ANY baby who would be born “Imperfect” in their minds.
      As for ISIS, they are out for creating fear and terror. They don’t care who they kill. Today it was a center for handicapped people. Next week it could be a church or a football game. We just don’t know.

    • Ethel Mertz says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 6:40 pm

      I live in L.A. and am following this on talk radio. Disabled folks were not targeted. It was a conference in an unconnected building. Cops have shot up the SUV and it sounds like one is shot, one is dead and one in custody. Still following…. I don’t know how RT got the name because zero information on even their ethnicity has been reported.

      • Ethel Mertz says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 7:16 pm

        UPDATE… 2 dead and 1 on the loose. Still no report on their identities. Local LE say that they are looking at this as domestic terrorism but as they keep investigating they are not ruling out over seas angle…

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 9:31 pm

        Ethel Mertz wrote:

        I don’t know how RT got the name because zero information on even their ethnicity has been reported.
        ………………….

        San Diego Tribune reports:

        Riverside police dispatchers have broadcast a general advisory that the suspects involved in the shootings in San Bernardino may have fled in a black GMC Yukon, heading northbound on Waterman Avenue, roughly 40 minutes ago.

        The broadcast indicated there were unconfirmed reports the suspects were male and of Middle Eastern origin, “armed with AK-47s and wearing body armor.”

        The broadcast was part of a region-wide alert issued by the San Bernardino Police Department.

  7. Don McKellar says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 5:19 pm

    Farooq Saeed is one of the suspects’ names.

    Mass shooting with multiple shooters/suspects.

    Reports of looking for “Middle Eastern males” with body armor and AK-47’s.

    I’m sensing a pattern…

  8. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 5:25 pm

    So now we’ve sunk to where neo-Nazis are being made up and costumed by Hollywood makeup pros to appear middle eastern to go out on a mass murder spree just to make Moslems look bad. Thank goodness President Obama had his people spread out our new Syrians, otherwise they’d target that.

  9. Sam says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 5:29 pm

    Let’s never jump to the conclusion as these killers of innocent people may not be evil cult members of EVIL RELIGION ISLAM.

    HOWEVER, YOU CAN BLAME NRA OR CHRISTIANS IMMEDIATELY

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 6:49 pm

      I love the NRA TV commercial with the black haired 30-yr old dude that without naming them called out Moslems and basically stated you ain’t gonna dictate how I live, my beliefs, etc. And now Wayne LaPierre is on another such commercial. I always like that guy. A man of principle. In addition to taking a job that makes him one of the most reviled of Americans, he’s now dabbing with the truth about Moslems, a severe infraction. Pry it from my cold dead fingers, baby.

      • Katnis says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 9:49 pm

        I know exactly which commercial you’re talking about. Every time I see it, I want to cheer.

    • Oliver says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 8:33 pm

      Sam– one can also blame George w Bush and Israel. Consider- the Paris shootings were Friday & Saturday; and by Monday the Swedish Foreign Minister (appearantly with the blessings of her government) B;LAMED ISRAEL.

  10. Wellington says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 5:37 pm

    When an atrocity is done by a Muslim, it’s evidence of things like “workplace violence,” mental illness, anything but something connected to what Islam teaches, which is rank antipathy for non-Muslims.

    When an atrocity is done by a non-Muslim, it is evidence of “right-wing extremism” and the necessity for more gun control.

    Sensible people by now have detected this enormous difference, which is rooted in hypocrisy, ignorance and stupidity. The only people still buying the standard “explanations” are fools or something worse than fools.

    When Muslims kill and maim in the name of their religion, which is quite frequent, an almost daily event around the world, they do so in the name of that very large cause, i.e., Islam. However, almost every time someone who is not a Muslim kills or maims such a loser has not done so in the name of any organized, formally recognized cause (e.g., the heinous young white man who killed completely innocent black Americans earlier this year in South Carolina). Huge difference. Couldn’t be any bigger. And the fact that the MSM and other elites continue to ignore this huge difference is to their eternal shame, though most of these doofuses have no capacity to feel shame, which in and of itself says a lot about who these people are and where part of the problem lies in the first place.

    • Christianblood says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 5:47 pm

      Wellington

      May be it is the Russians or Serbians Orthodox Christians who did this or may be it is Assad who is behind this for we all know that islam is the religion of peace and that Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, MBs, Pakistan, Al-nusra front and many other islamic jihadist groups/countries are either members of Nato or are allied with Americans.

      • Peggy says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 8:28 pm

        On 9/11 they had Serbs too as suspects for that act of terrorism. Serbs have been allies with the US in both world wars but they were still on the list of suspects.
        Just because some retaliate in this manner when wronged or perceived as wronged, Serbs have no history of doing that and you would think the US would know that.

        • Christianblood says

          Dec 2, 2015 at 10:01 pm

          Peggy

          Most Americans are detached from reality and have an upside down worldview in their heads. Please watch Raymond Ibrahim’s interview on this on the link below: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk-RqsVR3rk

      • silvergreycat says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 10:13 pm

        Christian,

        *… we all know that islam is the religion of peace*…some believing it true, some hoping it true, and some knowing otherwise… http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/top-10-reasons.htm

    • Kepha says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 6:47 pm

      Welllington–That character Roof who gunned down those people in that Charleston church did so in the name of racism. He was openly a racist, and said he wanted to act on such principles.

      Of course, finding a dozen random American white people who have the slightest sympathy for such an action might be a pretty difficult task. I strongly suspect that there were people near and dear to the North Carolina policemen who arrested Roof (maybe even the cops themselves) who probably displayed the Confederate battle flag on occasion while believing that such an arrest was merely the cops doing their jobs well.

      • Wellington says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 7:06 pm

        Indeed, Kepha. That loser did act in the name of racism which is universally condemned except by ignoramuses and which has no organized following of a 100 million, let alone more than a billion. Trouble is, Islam is not universally condemned, though it needs to be, and were there “only” a hundred million Muslims in the world, mankind would be so much better off.

        As I know you know, much, much more trouble ahead. Just still tip of the iceberg stuff. And the most important development, the sine qua non development, has not yet occurred and there will still be plenty of trouble even after this “development” occurs, it being Islam characterized properly for the iniquity which it is.

        Until Islam, all of this heinous religion, is treated as one gigantic negative—–no respect accorded it and all Muslims looked upon as confused human beings at the very least—–free peoples everywhere will remain in serious jeopardy, which is pretty much where they are already.

        Evil is bad enough but evil successfully masquerading as good is enough to do mankind in. Rather close there now I would argue.

    • epistemology says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 7:13 pm

      This is another assault against Westerners (Californians) by an individual of muzzie faith with a French passport. He’s gone on a holiday in California and a holiday for a muzzie means a killing spree. That’s part of their culture, we’ve got understand that. You love your apple pie and they love their killing spree. It’s about time we’ve got to live with that.

      It’s so disgusting and I wonder when the MSM and politicians open their eyes and start protecting our civilisation.

      Your text was as brill as ever, all the best to you and yours my friend

      • Wellington says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 8:09 pm

        “it’s so disgusting and I wonder when the MSM and politicians open their eyes and start protecting our civilization.”

        Sometimes, my friend, I fear that the answer to your query is “never.” Looks that way so far, doesn’t it? It’s why I find myself despising Western elites like Cameron, Kerry, McCain, Merkel, the BBC, et al. even more than I despise Islam, which has taken some doing but the current crop of Western elites have managed to “achieve” this.

        Best to you my friend. Take good care.

        • Oliver says

          Dec 2, 2015 at 8:41 pm

          I agree with wha=t you say. But as to cameron- as I psoted beofre- and you repsonded- he is the lesser of the two evils.

          In this past election, the Labour leader was a Jewish Marxist; hated Bibi; seemed to hate himself. In the prior election, a friend who live sin Fl but is English and has family there told me that Cameron’s opponent is a bigger asshole and scumbag then cameron.

          McCain, Kerry, Merkel, and otehrs in the ” elite” (I would probably add Lindsay Graham) are despicable.

    • islam :- the religion of killers says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 7:35 pm

      Do the sums Wellington, take Roberts figures from the top of the website and divide by the days, I think you’ll be horrified,,

      It’s 5 “deadly incidents per day”, not 5 people killed each day…

      I wish the media would report those figures, rather than pretend most of them arn’t religiously motivated ,,,
      These too are only the “incidents that are reported”

      • Wellington says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 8:39 pm

        Horrified but not surprised because I have been keeping track, though thanks for the comment anyway.

        It’s been about 5,200 days since 9/11 and if you divide this figure from the figure at the religionofpeace site of 27,361 documented Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide since that day of infamy you get something like 5.26 Islamic terrorist attacks per day the whole way back to September 11, 2001. And this figure doesn’t take into account the tens of thousands of INTENDED Islamic terrorist attacks worldwide since 9/11 that have been thwarted by various security agencies across the world. Horrifying indeed. But then it’s meant to be.

        Islam, this is your legacy. Screw you, Islam. You are abominable, Islam. There is nothing I loathe more than you, Islam. A few things as much but nothing more.

    • Greyhound Fancier says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 8:39 pm

      Farouq Saeed’s name was just mentioned on Fox News.

  11. Jihadophobic says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 5:38 pm

    ‘Muslim’ isn’t a race. Stop propagating this myth. Islam is what poisons the mind, not someone’s physical features!

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 6:22 pm

      Yes, the Tsarnaev bros hailed from the Caucusus Mountains; they were, to use the proper race name… Caucasians. Also, Prez Barack Hussein’s pop was a black African, not an Arab, and his step-dad was an Indonesian. On a fun note, Barack Obama Sr also was a card carrying communism, so it follows that communism is not a race either.

      • Kepha says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 6:50 pm

        APF, I suspect there are people in Central Africa or the Solomons who would see our current POTUS as a white man.

        The point about the Tsarnaev brothers is spot on.

        • Oliver says

          Dec 2, 2015 at 8:45 pm

          Kepha, when the Boston bombing happened, ( before one of the pieces of shit was killed and the other captured) was rumored to said on the air, that he hoped thta the bombers were white (men). (Indicating not Middle East Muslims).

          Racism, and the Tsarnaev brothers being white- screwed up this MSM persons logic.

      • Jihadophobic says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 6:50 pm

        And to add to that: there is no such thing as a “race” called “Arab.” Arab is a language, not a race. There are people who speak Arabic, but they have a range of physical features and skin and hair colours: some are black and some are white with blue eyes.

        Canadians, Singaporeans, Americans, South Africans, Polynesians and Kiwis are all native English speakers and, just as there is no “Arabic race”, they do not see themselves as an “English race,” of which there is no such thing.

        • Greyhound Fancier says

          Dec 2, 2015 at 8:42 pm

          Many current day Arabs have inherited some DNA from European women kidnapped and made sex slaves by jihadists from centuries ago.

  12. miriamrove says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 5:43 pm

    I was just talking to my son. He said the shooter(s) worked at the compound that were attacked. M

  13. Jerry says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 5:44 pm

    So Feds looking for Farooq Saeed? Middle Eastern men? Black Yukon with Utah plates?
    Thank God RTFrance is watching out for us.
    Our government trusts them with info more than they do us.
    No surprise.

  14. john timms says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    Must be the religion of peace again??

  15. Joseph says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 6:07 pm

    BODY ARMOR

    You know what that means people, this limits your target area.
    Disconnect the computer.

    Start practicing now. Become familiar with what you plan to use to defend yourself with.

    • mortimer says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 7:02 pm

      Joseph wrote: “Start practicing now. Become familiar with what you plan to use to defend yourself with.”

      Recently, gun range owners have noticed an increase in Muslims in full Islamic dress learning to shoot. Are our politicians or police paying attention?

      • Joseph says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 9:48 pm

        Mortimer, I guess that means that we will have to be be better at what we do then they are.

        Of course our politicians don’t give a flying rats ass. If they did they would at least pass legislation that prohibits **refugees** from owning/carrying any firearms under threat of deportation.
        There should also be a probationary period for any naturalized citizen so Obama and his cronies can’t subvert the law that way either.

        Written on the side of a Colt 45…”Be afraid of no man regardless of size, call on me and I will equalize.”

  16. Liam1304 says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 6:08 pm

    There are some of us who note with a rich sense of irony how the media immediately lept to blaming all pro-lifers for “hateful rhetoric” after the previous shooting, thus implicating all pro-lifers. While the POTUS was quick to point to the problem of gun ownership in America, thus implicating all gun owners, who apparently have some shared responsibility for all deranged people (does the DMV share the blame when deranged people kill others in cars? Just asking). The media is trying SO hard to make the bad guys evangelical or catholic gunmen.

    US media actually refuses to broadcast the name of an alleged mass murderer – which could be kinda useful to someone trying to find him – who is still on the loose as, we imagine, they wish to protect a certain group of people from scrutiny as that would be, what, “racist”?

    Apparently it’s quite reasonable to implicate millions of law abiding peaceful people and make them hold some shared responsibility simply for believing in one thing (freedom and life) in a completely non-violent way. But it is very very wrong to hold a real group of people collectively responsible for violent teachings that they all highly rize and some follow. Never mind that it always seems to be the followers of that one religion time and time and time again who perpetrate these atrocities – there is no pattern here apparently! And to see a pattern is racist. Or something.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 6:25 pm

      (does the DMV share the blame when deranged people kill others in cars? Just asking)

      Who are usually Moslems, btw. Auto-Jihad is a growing trend, especially in Israel, but several years ago a devout Moslem ran some Infidel students down on the commons at the college in Chapel Hill, of which Spencer is an alum; he learned Arabic there.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Dec 3, 2015 at 4:42 am

        And there was a case of Car Jihad, Running-Over Jihad, in San Francisco as well, I seem to recall. The bloke was an Afghan Muslim – a ‘refugee’, if I recall correctly. The case – like the other one you mention – was discussed here at length.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 3, 2015 at 9:55 pm

          Yes–this was right in my neck of the woods. This story was covered extensively here at JW. Here’s one of the pieces:

          “SF hit-and-run murderer identifies self as terrorist…”

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2006/08/sf-hit-and-run-murderer-identifies-self-as-terrorist-police-say-it-wasnt-terrorism

  17. Troybeam says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 6:38 pm

    If indeed it was Islamic men who did this deed I hope Obama chokes on his anti gun BS as this will fly in his face as to why not to bring these people into our nation.

    • Wellington says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 6:43 pm

      A beautiful sentiment, Troybeam.

      • Shmooviyet says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 8:56 pm

        Agreed– and, not intending to inject humour into this horror, “fly in his face” immediately brought up reminders of those ‘fly-on-O’s-nose’ photos.

  18. Rev g says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 6:42 pm

    Regardless of who did this, expect anti-gun backlash. Lots of good Christmas deals on AR’s, ammo, and accessories right now. Don’t count on them to last. I would recommend stocking up if you haven’t already.

  19. Baucent says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 6:49 pm

    One shooter and chances are you’re got a crazy or a grudge killer. But three, and you have most likely an ideology as the cause. The black vehicle they traveled in is a ISIS signature, as seen in both Paris attacks. Early days yet but looks like terrorism to me.

    • Alarmed Pig Farmer says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 6:52 pm

      Maybe it was Black Lives Matter. I look at them as a latter day Ku Klux Klan race hate group. Maybe it was BLM.

  20. mortimer says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 6:50 pm

    Apparently…”Middle Eastern origin, “armed with AK-47s and wearing body armor” … and they are ‘apparently’ jihadists.

  21. DeMolay says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 6:51 pm

    As the story breaks it looks like this particular attack isn’t Islamic in nature.

    • Champ says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 7:02 pm

      “…this particular attack isn’t Islamic in nature.”

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Where on earth did you hear that? My husband and I have been glued to this story, and neither of us have heard that this “isn’t islamic”, at all. It’s way too soon to determine that this is NOT islamic in nature.

      • Shmooviyet says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 9:05 pm

        If there is indeed a person named “Farooq” involved (pardon my ‘phobia) what are the chances it is islamic in nature?
        FBI “not ruling out terrorism” and 14 dead as of 8:00 CDT.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 9:55 pm

        Very true, Champ.

      • Joseph says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 10:08 pm

        Bullet proof vests, automatic weapons and pipe bombs.
        The attackers must be “granny Jenkins” and her knitting circle, just couldn’t be those peace loving Muslims.

      • DeMolay says

        Dec 3, 2015 at 2:52 am

        Sorry. I made the stupid mistake of reading something in the msm that ruled it out. I’ll never make that mistake again. It now appears to be 100% Islamic !!

  22. worldcitizen1919 says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 7:05 pm

    Well there’s a war on between ISIS and the west so I’ll be very surprised if this is not ISIS.

  23. abad says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 7:12 pm

    Um, considering the fact that Obama has already let in some of those Syrian Jihadi Migrants(TM) into the USA I am not really too surprised. They will feign mental illness but then we all know Islam is a mental illness.

  24. John Johness says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 7:25 pm

    If it is Islamist, the police must immediately find the Mosque they attended.
    The Imam and co will know a lot about these guys. Then they can find where the third gunman has gone.
    Take a black dog.

  25. Richard Jefferies says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 7:34 pm

    In Texas the shooters got dropped by an off duty cop with a pistol. In California, however, they don’t believe in defending themselves.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 4:02 pm

      Mate: the people running the event in Garland, Texas, *knew* they would likely be targeted – because they were running an exhibition of cartoons lampooning Mohammed – and so they had security on site. The ‘off duty cop with a pistol’ didn’t just happen to be strolling past; he was *hired* and doing his job…very very well. He was part of the security detail.

      *This* event was – so far as I can see from the news reports – the San Bernardino county employees’ **Christmas party**. No different from thousands upon thousands of similar workplace or company Christmas parties all over the USA, and indeed, all over the West, right now. They didn’t *expect* to be attacked by mohammedans…or anybody else, for that matter. So I would assume they hadn’t taken any special precautions about security. Americans haven’t yet wised up to jihad to the degree that, say, the Israelis have.

      Who takes a gun to the office Christmas party???

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 10:19 pm

      Richard, Dumbledore’s Army is quite right.

      I’ve been to at least two dozen company holiday parties–both my own and my husband’s–and it never occurred to me I’d need to go armed.

      As for the crack about California, it might interest you to know that San Bernadino County in the Inland Empire votes solidly Republican “red”, just like the state of Texas. And the 2nd Amendment is very popular there–just not at Christmas parties held at disabled centers.

      Here’s a red/blue map of California:

      http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/kfsn/images/cms/automation/images/111314-kfsn-blog-red-blue-map-ic.jpg

      San Bernardino County is the medium-size county just inland from Los Angeles.

  26. Saba says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 7:44 pm

    Well here we have it again. Will our President blame this work-place violence, climate change, too many guns or Israeli’s? Hmmm…

    • Oliver says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 8:49 pm

      I would say George Bush, followed by climate control and then Israel. In that order.

      Since it was -seemingly Muslims doing the shooting-hew will leave out gun control.

  27. BogdanEu says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 7:56 pm

    Islam is death for everything!!! Just look at the Earth map of Muslim nations and observe how they became literaly a Desert Sea!!! Islam is DESTRUCTION!! https://www.google.ro/maps/@22.7673406,31.2596752,4719714m/data=!3m1!1e3

  28. Ugly Negro says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 8:09 pm

    Praise be to Allah….and the Tooth Fairy, Peter Pan, Big Foot, aliens….

  29. Chica says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 8:13 pm

    Obama is OUR LONE WOLF IN SHEEPS CLOTHING.

  30. Bigrob says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 8:14 pm

    Fox is starting to run with this…finally.

    • Dr. Divinity says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 11:43 am

      As everyone knows by now the terrorist are dead. But so are 14 innocent people. At least we know these terrorist will burn in hell at the last day they sure are not in paradise…If only the muslims could understand that being killed in jihad automatically sends then to the lake of fire and not to paradise…..then msybe they might not crave death and murder. But when you have had this stuff drilled into your head since birth,with no opportunity to change your religion,then you are doomed.

  31. Isabellathecrusader says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 8:30 pm

    I heard on the radio here in VA a couple of hours ago that it was three white men. Then when I didn’t hear anymore about what the shooters looked like or who they were I knew it was Muslims. The news media won’t report that until the last possible moment so that’s always a pretty sure sign.

    Hey, ISIS said they were coming to kill us. Which part don’t we get? Look for a major attack in the D.C. area before Christmas. There is nothing and nobody to stop them.

    • Undaunted says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 9:00 pm

      Oh, c’mon, Isabella; you really think that? Remember how nobody would dare try to take back a plane from terrorists because the paradigm was that all the hostages would be flown to a safe place, a negotiation would take place, and then all the hostages released unharmed? And then Flight 93 on 9/11/01 and Todd Beamer, et al, changed how we evaluate situations like that and what we do.

      Since it’s becoming more and more clear to more and more people that these savages really truly mean to kill as many of us as they can as quickly as they can, I believe there will be many warriors, men and women alike, who will be ready, trained, armed, quick to respond, careful but decisive in identifying and acquiring targets, and smooth as glass on the trigger as they send these barbarians back to the hell from which they came.

      Who’s with me?

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 9:57 pm

        Hear, hear!

        Remember the brave Americans on that train in France.

      • Peggy says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 10:15 pm

        Certainly not the US government.

      • Isabellathecrusader says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 11:48 pm

        Hey U.D.,

        No I didn’t mean us. I meant Dear Leader who is financing ISIS and all the weenies in our government who are more afraid of hurting Muslim sensibilities than protecting the people they work for, (meaning us.)

        I live in a very colorful county about half an hour outside Washington, D.C. The nimrods in this county drive their big SUV’s with OBAMA/BIDEN stickers still attached to their cars. They thing everything is just peachy and that Obama is doing a terrific job, while I watch my country spiral down the toilet. I have no doubt that you and I will stand against this horseshit. We already do. I’m just wondering how many people have decided what they are willing to die for and whether they will wait until someone in their family is raped/murdered/shot at or if they will act beforehand. I’m for acting beforehand.

        • Undaunted says

          Dec 3, 2015 at 10:17 pm

          I thought as much. Yay.

      • Momma bear says

        Dec 3, 2015 at 11:14 am

        I am awake and prepared to defend my family and country but most of the ill informed populas have been feminized and will most likely not stand with us.
        I know Christian men who are sitting on their couch , letting Gods will happen.

        • Isabellathecrusader says

          Dec 3, 2015 at 12:13 pm

          You go Mama Bear! I’m with you.

      • Savvy Kafir says

        Dec 3, 2015 at 11:35 am

        These “random” shootings will become more & more common, as Islam’s war on the world heats up. Everyone who’s concerned about this issue should get a concealed carry permit, if they don’t already have one. Learn to handle a handgun effectively & safely, and start carrying as often as possible.

        If you live in a state where it’s hard to get a carry permit (like California), start pushing for “Shall Issue” laws — and for national reciprocity of carry permits.

    • Momma bear says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 11:09 am

      I herd it on the radio Wednesday morning here in Alaska and they also said three white men…wearing face masks.that is the medias race agenda.

  32. Undaunted says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 8:31 pm

    Some suggestions above to be prepared, have a plan, practice. Amen to that advice. I wrote this some time back but it was meant to be pertinent going forward…

    http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2011/06/get-your-shit-in-one-bag.html

    • Spot On says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 8:23 am

      To Undaunted…good work.

      It only needs to happen once in a lifetime. Had one confrontation long time ago (and hope never again) by a drugged up killer. My .357 mag saved his wife and children and my wife and children + me without a shot fired. Six months later, he was shot and killed by another 2nd amendment advocate doing the same thing (threatening to kill his wife and children). His wife and children owe their lives to good people who care to defend themselves (and others).

      • Undaunted says

        Dec 3, 2015 at 10:17 pm

        Thank you…

  33. Undaunted says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 8:34 pm

    More suggestions on how to prepare to fight these animals when it’s your turn…

    http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2008/12/mumbai-intel.html

    • Shmooviyet says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 9:10 pm

      Thank you for the links.
      Love the title on that first one.

      • Undaunted says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 9:26 pm

        Thank you, kindly.

        And, you’re most welcome.

  34. Matthieu Baudin says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 8:39 pm

    Condolences to all.

  35. Undaunted says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 8:40 pm

    And more thoughts on how to not end up a corpse…

    http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2010/11/speculations.html

  36. Undaunted says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 8:43 pm

    Even more sagacity on fighting bad-guys and girls…

    http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2010/06/read-hereabout-boeing-guards-who-somehow-let-twelve-or-was-it-fourteen-handguns-be-stolen-from-a-storage-locker-at-the-he.html

  37. Undaunted says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 8:49 pm

    One of my favorites… I hope it becomes one of yours.

    http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2010/06/something-about-flight-attendants.html

    • Zairia tango says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 9:20 pm

      Could you please stop your self promoting and stick to the topic on hand. Thank you

      • Undaunted says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 10:44 pm

        I’m not self-promoting. I am linking to subjects upon which I’ve written that offer suggestions on how to not get killed by terrorists; which is to say I’m promoting self-defense, preparedness, survival, victory. Nobody asked you to go check out my blog and my guess is that you did not do so.

        And just what the hell do you bring to the table? Never mind. I’m tired of you already,

      • Wellington says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 11:48 pm

        Undaunted, Zairia tango, has never promoted himself here at JW. Rather, he has sought to inform others on matters of self-defense and survival techniques, concerning which he knows a great deal. Reconsider.

        • Undaunted says

          Dec 3, 2015 at 6:26 am

          Thank you, sir.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 11:51 pm

        This isn’t self-promoting at all. What Undaunted posts here could save lives at Jihad terror attacks like the one in San Bernadino. I, for one, always appreciate his comments.

        • Undaunted says

          Dec 3, 2015 at 6:27 am

          And thank you, sir.

  38. dlbrand says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    They had purpose—reason, way ahead of time, to stalk place and subjects; reason to plan and execute hit on this Christmas celebration (at a rented space) with this cluster of Christmas Season celebrators.

    They had, to serve the above: plotting, training, arming.

    To serve the above, they had “brothers” in arms for the cause.

    As we should know will have all perpetrators of the hits we have coming our way from IS–those that govern, lay full claim to the land in which, anyone aware of the teachings of Islamic faith, knows; those who govern there do so by “the Shariah of Allah,” implemented it entirely.

    This is IS.

  39. gravenimage says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 9:22 pm

    Mass shooting in California, at least 20 victims, suspect Farooq Saeed sought
    ……………………

    I’ve been following this horrifying story all day–of course it occurred to me that it might have been Jihad, but this is the first story I have heard indicating that it was.

    Thank God for Jihad Watch.

    • dlbrand says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 9:49 pm

      “Thank God for Jihad Watch.”

      Roger that, and the same for Geller.

      • [FA] says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 9:53 pm

        I’ll third that. The wife was just reading me the Fox news account and I told her I’ll check JW to see if the religion of peace was involved.

        • Ashley says

          Dec 2, 2015 at 10:37 pm

          “The wife was just reading me the Fox news account and I told her I’ll check JW to see if the religion of peace was involved.”
          _________________

          Your comment earned my personal blue ribbon award.

          As the news broke, I did the same thing…

        • dlbrand says

          Dec 2, 2015 at 10:53 pm

          Citing “FA,” Ashley said: “‘The wife was just reading me the Fox news account and I told her I’ll check JW to see if the religion of peace was involved.’
          _________________

          Your comment earned my personal blue ribbon award.

          As the news broke, I did the same thing…”

          Amen to that. In brief.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 9:59 pm

        Yes–I should have praised the inimitable Pamela Geller’s site, as well.

        • dlbrand says

          Dec 2, 2015 at 10:50 pm

          Indeed.Indeed.

    • Champ says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 4:07 am

      “Thank God for Jihad Watch.”

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Indeed, Graven! I heard about this heinous mass shooting on television, and I immediately thought ..’ok I better check out Jihad Watch to see if muslims were involved’ …and sure enough, Robert had a headline reporting that muslims were in fact involved, because the MSM wasn’t telling us who these people were yet.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 3, 2015 at 8:19 pm

        Very true, Champ. It took quite a while for the MSM to admit the perpetrators were Muslim–and they’re *still* not admitting it was Jihad (or even the more watered-down “Islamic extremism”).

  40. Katowice says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 9:24 pm

    NBC in Los Angeles just confirmed this.

  41. ensitue says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 9:29 pm

    Chanukah starts Sunday, I’m betting that plays a part in the “Holiday Celebration” that was attacked and explains why NO names other than Farook’s has been released

  42. guide inside says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    And the POTUS pen inches closer to the martial law exec order as his hand quivers with excitement that he can now enact his plan of revenge for slavery.

    • Joseph says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 10:00 pm

      And what does Martial law mean?????????????????

      NO ELECTIONS.
      Dictator Obama
      http://www.commdiginews.com/politics-2/ben-carson-might-obama-cancel-the-2016-election-28523/

    • Asian Crusader says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 2:57 am

      POTUS … can now enact his plan of revenge for slavery.

      Honolulu Barry is a proud descendant of Muslim slave traders who sold millions of Africans to Arabia and India until the Christian West became strong enough to put an end to this lucrative business in the 19th century. Look up “Zanzibar.” Remember Honolulu Barry’s own statement that both he and Michelle are descended from owners of slaves. (As well as Michelle, but not Barry, being in part descended from slaves.)

      Watch Honolulu Barry closely when he is forced to interact with regular African-Americans many whose ancestors lived in America (and shaped America in many large and small ways) since the 1700s. Does Honolulu Barry really seem at ease? Does he seem to enjoy their company?

      Honolulu Barry’s most striking personal characteristic is that he ENJOYS the act of lying. Putting one over on an audience – particularly of “intellectual” whites – gives Honolulu Barry a brief but intense buzz, almost as good as cocaine. One can only guess at the depth of hurt that Barry must have suffered as a child amidst the casual racism of 1960s Indonesia. Only Islam with its rituals and sounds offered a seductive sense of belonging.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 3, 2015 at 8:24 pm

        True–Obama is not a descendant of slaves–just of slavers.

        “Obama’s Family Were Slave Owners”

        http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-107575

        Now, I don’t blame anyone for what their ancestors did–but Obama has never repudiated their actions, either.

        Asked about his African background, he has simply said, “I’m proud of it”.

  43. dlbrand says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 9:53 pm

    This is the army of IS, clear as can be–military hit, Shariah-of-Islam adhered to to-the-letter style.

  44. gravenimage says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 10:00 pm

    This target had it all: Infidel leaders being honored for their leadership, a Christmas celebration, and a place that helps vulnerable people. It is also, like the targets in Paris, an event where Infidels were feeling happy and celebratory.

    God, I hate Islam.

    • Ashley says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 10:30 pm

      This target had it all: Infidel leaders being honored for their leadership, a Christmas celebration, and a place that helps vulnerable people. It is also, like the targets in Paris, an event where Infidels were feeling happy and celebratory.
      _____________________

      Exactly!

      Paris comes to California.

      God help us all.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 3, 2015 at 8:27 pm

        Yes, Ashley–and Mumbai, before San Bernardino, and before Paris.

        God help us, I’m sure many more places are being targeted by ravening Mohammedans even as we speak.

  45. Bezelel says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 10:03 pm

    Looks like the white Christian right wingers theory just got shot full of holes. Meanwhile hussein obola is talking gun control and climate change. You can’t make this up. It’s too surreal to imagine. Note that all of the victims were obeying the gun laws.

  46. Phil says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 10:08 pm

    Obama will rule out any tie to Islam, Muhammed, IS, ISIL, CAIR or Muslim Jihadi event. Then Obama will reconvene with his Muslim Brotherhood pals. Is it Workplace violence or global climate change?

    • dlbrand says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 10:58 pm

      Phil said: ” Obama will rule out any tie to Islam, Muhammed, IS, ISIL, CAIR or Muslim Jihadi event. Then Obama will reconvene ….”

      Indeed. As will others.

      In other words, as “needed,” a good batch of buns is in the making–the work takes a bit of time.

    • guide inside says

      Dec 2, 2015 at 11:08 pm

      Of course it was global warming that cooked Sick Farook’s brain along with the POTUS brain many Islamic moons ago. tsk,tsk, should have known all along this is the problem.

      • guide inside says

        Dec 2, 2015 at 11:51 pm

        Of course martial law is imminent! He is working a long running script fomented by many years sitting under pastor Jeremiah’s ranting sermons in Chicago. He is working Agenda 21 and now it will morf into Agenda 2030’s one world government. His DHS brown shirts will round up all the guns and food they can find. Many Prophets of God have been speaking this for sometime now. Its no longer a whisper in polite conversations. Hmmm, I wonder who will be the leader of this one world gubmit? One Prophet I know says that who else in this world could qualify as that final anti-guy. Hmmm

        • guide inside says

          Dec 2, 2015 at 11:55 pm

          CNN just now working the gun control rant.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 4, 2015 at 3:17 pm

        It must have been the California drought that caused Farook to lose it…sarc/off

  47. John says

    Dec 2, 2015 at 11:32 pm

    When are we going to stop playing Muslim Roulette.

    • Joseph says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 3:30 pm

      Roulette is where you put one bullet in a revolver, spin the cylinder close it, put the gun to your head and pull the trigger.
      Muslim roulette is when SIX bullets are put in, then we put the gun to our head and pull the trigger.
      The world will NEVER learn

      You can never EVER win with Muslims. Live ones at least. Even the dead ones contaminate the soil and air.

  48. Closetohome says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 12:14 am

    C’mon man don’t start with lies! I live very close to where this took place. All the news outlets were reporting his name and the events. As a matter of fact the Inland Regional Center is a customer of mine. Thank God no one I knew was hurt. I’m just glad they took this guy out…

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 8:31 pm

      There are no lies in this post–the MSM *wasn’t* releasing these Muslims’ names when the story first broke yesterday. I am no fan of RT as a rule, but they were the first to identify the attackers as Muslim.

  49. don vito says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 12:47 am

    Damn Goble Climate Change-sarc

    • don vito says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 12:50 am

      “Global”

  50. Reza Donesh says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 1:41 am

    political correctness Mr traitor anonnce we never had this kind incident happened before

  51. G Riddle says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 2:02 am

    Fourteen innocents killed by Muslims. No mention of terrorism (just another example of workplace violence by the followers of peace). POTUS and Senator Boxer call for more gun control. Surprise! Record number of citizens purchasing firearms. No surprise. Don’t they know that they will be safer without a gun for protection? Crazy man living in a remote cabin with no electricity or running water kills people at a Family Planning Center and Senator Reid blames Republicans and conservative talk radio. Really? Crazy man must have had a battery operated radio. POTUS calls for more gun control. Another example of leadership that deserves another Nobel Peace Prize.
    Meanwhile Xmas shopping and the NFL and NBA keep the Mob distracted.

  52. Shmooviyet says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 5:31 am

    I’d like to hear ONE media personality question how a new mother ( or father, for that matter) could leave a six-month old to dress in bullet-proof gear and go shed some infidel blood for revenge. Assuming that indeed was the purpose of this latest massacre, of course. Perhaps I missed that question.
    Will CAIR insist that this infant be placed with a nice, moderate muslim family like this one, who was “living the American Dream”?
    More proof of the equality of all cultures.

    • quotha raven says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 4:15 pm

      To Shmooviyet – What a stunning image. I hadn’t thought about her being the mother of a six month old baby. What mother could possibly do that? The idea is blood draining to me and I just might have a nightmare about this. Yours is a mind-expanding contribution.

      Cheers!

      quotha raven

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 8:34 pm

      Well, considering Muslim terrorists have gone so far as to spike their infant’s baby bottle with explosives–this is why when we fly we can’t take anything larger than 3 oz. bottles on board–and to use kids as suicide bombers, their leaving a child behind shouldn’t shock anyone.

  53. Heather says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 3:54 pm

    Thank you Robert for all the hard work you do to bring us up-to-date on the latest goings-on in the evil little world of islam. I don’t know how you do it, it gets me down at times, it’s so evil.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 8:35 pm

      Hear, hear!

  54. Shane says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 5:02 pm

    They’ve said they will outbreed us. They intend the muezzin calls to be heard on every street in the world. And it’s still not PC to talk about it? Why? Is Western civilization really going to just lay down and die?

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