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Obama says that concerns that jihadis will be among the Syrian refugees are unfounded

Dec 16, 2015 1:24 pm By Robert Spencer

“The ceremony came as 25 Republican governors have vowed to block the entry of Syrian refugees into their states, including some where large numbers of Syrians have settled in recent years. Mr. Obama has condemned such comments as contradicting American values. The governors made their vow after the deadly terrorist attacks in Paris last month, and fears of terrorism have risen in the United States after the shooting this month in San Bernardino, Calif. But Mr. Obama said that such fears are unfounded.”

How does he know that? Last February, the Islamic State boasted it would soon flood Europe with as many as 500,000 refugees. And the Lebanese Education Minister recently said that there were 20,000 jihadis among the refugees in camps in his country. Meanwhile, 80% of migrants who have recently come to Europe claiming to be fleeing the war in Syria aren’t really from Syria at all.

So why are they claiming to be Syrian and streaming into Europe? An Islamic State operative gave the answer when he boasted in September, shortly after the migrant influx began, that among the flood of refugees, 4,000 Islamic State jihadis had already entered Europe. He explained their purpose: “It’s our dream that there should be a caliphate not only in Syria but in all the world, and we will have it soon, inshallah.” These Muslims were going to Europe in the service of that caliphate: “They are going like refugees,” he said, but they were going with the plan of sowing blood and mayhem on European streets. As he told this to journalists, he smiled and said, “Just wait.”

Obama

“Obama Counters Anti-Muslim Talk by Welcoming New Citizens,” by Gardiner Harris and Laurie Goodstein, New York Times, December 15, 2015:

WASHINGTON — Standing in a room with the original Constitution, Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights, President Obama on Tuesday declared that the United States should never give in to fear but should continue to welcome immigrants and refugees because “that’s who we are.”

“Immigration is our origin story,” Mr. Obama said.

The speech, on the 224th anniversary of the ratification of the Bill of Rights, was intended as a rebuke to what the White House has called hateful talk against Muslims and immigrants by prominent Republicans. Mr. Obama gave the speech at the National Archives as 31 people from 25 countries were sworn in as American citizens.

“You may come from teeming cities or rural villages. You don’t look alike. You don’t worship the same way,” Mr. Obama said to a group, with each member clutching a tiny American flag. “But here, surrounded by the very documents whose values bind us together as one people, you’ve raised your hand and sworn a sacred oath. I’m proud to be among the first to greet you as my fellow Americans.”

The ceremony came as 25 Republican governors have vowed to block the entry of Syrian refugees into their states, including some where large numbers of Syrians have settled in recent years. Mr. Obama has condemned such comments as contradicting American values.

The governors made their vow after the deadly terrorist attacks in Paris last month, and fears of terrorism have risen in the United States after the shooting this month in San Bernardino, Calif.

But Mr. Obama said that such fears are unfounded.

“In the Syrian seeking refuge today, we should see the Jewish refugee of World War II,” Mr. Obama said. Some Jewish refugee children were turned away from the United States during the period and were later killed by the Nazis.

Mr. Obama is struggling to fashion a message that reassures Americans that he is serious about battling the threat of the Islamic State while also avoiding xenophobia and alarmism. Polls suggest that many Americans believe he is not taking the threat from the Islamic State seriously enough, particularly after the deadly shooting in San Bernardino. Support among Republicans for banning Muslims is high.

To counter these dynamics, Mr. Obama gave a speech to the nation from the Oval Office on Dec. 6, visited the Pentagon on Monday and will visit the National Counterterrorism Center on Thursday, all to demonstrate that his administration is succeeding in its fight against terror and the Islamic State. But in each speech, Mr. Obama has yet to offer a new strategy, leaving even members of his own party grumbling.

On Tuesday, his speech was intended to combat the bigotry and anti-immigrant fervor that have accompanied the concern about the Islamic State. He said that immigrants and refugees had been targeted before, including Catholics whose loyalty was questioned and Chinese immigrants who were banned for a time. He mentioned the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II as a particularly grievous mistake.

“We succumbed to fear. We betrayed these documents. It’s happened before,” Mr. Obama said. “And the biggest irony is that those who betrayed these values were themselves the children of immigrants.”

“How quickly we forget,” Mr. Obama said. “One generation passes, two generations, and suddenly we don’t remember where we came from.”

Mr. Obama did not mention Donald J. Trump, who is leading in most polls in the Republican presidential primary race and who has called for Muslims to be blocked from entering the United States. Nor did he specifically call out Senator Ted Cruz of Texas, another Republican candidate, who has said he plans to introduce legislation barring Syrian Muslim refugees from entering the United States, or Jeb Bush, also a Republican presidential candidate, who has suggested that the authorities allow only Syrian Christians into the country.

But his targets were plain.

“We can never say it often or loudly enough: Immigrants and refugees revitalize and renew America,” Mr. Obama said.

Also this week, the White House is holding a series of meetings with religious leaders to discuss ways the administration is working to address discrimination, harassment and episodes of hate while promoting pluralism and religious freedom.

Officials from both the Obama and George W. Bush administrations “have observed that the kind of offensive, hateful, divisive rhetoric that we’ve seen from a handful of Republican candidates for president is damaging and dangerous,” Josh Earnest, the White House press secretary, said in a briefing on Monday.

On Monday evening, senior White House advisers met with about a dozen American Muslim leaders who had been invited to discuss the climate of rising anti-Muslim bigotry and hate. One Muslim leader who attended, Farhana Khera, the executive director of Muslim Advocates, a national legal advocacy organization based in San Francisco, said she had left the meeting feeling “very heartened.”

“They were expressing a genuine concern about the environment of anti-Muslim hate and violence, and really wanted to hear from the community about the impact and what the federal government can do,” she said.

The White House advisers included Valerie Jarrett, a senior aide; Cecilia Muñoz, the director of the Domestic Policy Council; Melissa Rogers, the head of the faith-based initiative office; and Benjamin J. Rhodes, a deputy national security adviser.

Ms. Khera said that since the Paris attacks, her office had documented an unprecedented series of hate crimes against Muslims and Muslim houses of worship — nearly 50 episodes, or an average of two a day. She said she had asked the president’s advisers to urge the federal government to prosecute “the most egregious” attacks as hate crimes.

“We believe the level of hate violence has reached a crisis point, and that’s why it’s crucial that the federal government needs to send a message to the public, in the strongest terms, that these hate crimes will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law,” Ms. Khera said.

She said one proposal that seemed to have traction at the meeting was for the Education Department to issue guidance to schools and educators on dealing with anti-Muslim hate, harassment and the bullying of students….

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  1. Don McKellar says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 1:37 pm

    America doesn’t need ANY immigration at this point in its history. It is a fully matured and fully populated country. The very idea that a president of the United States dismisses a proven terror threat to the citizens of America — proven beyond all doubt and conjecture with even actual examples of “migrant” jihad mass murder in other countries, no less! — is beyond comprehension. And yet it is happening right now. There has never been a more irresponsible and reckless American president in the modern era. Nobody even comes close. What a worthless Congress America has elected to not have taken legal action against this jihadi in office. After all he’s done, and continues to do. It is unconscionable.

    • jihad3tracker says

      Dec 16, 2015 at 2:25 pm

      Hello again Don — You nailed it in this post. But I would go even farther about Barry Soetoro: he is far beyond irresponsible now.

      A narrowly averted but intended hugely murderous jihad plan which would have been completely expectable in & “worthy” of Iraq, Syria, and Nigeria happened here (San Bernardino) much sooner than he expected.

      So BHO is becoming unhinged emotionally; there are certainly some very dark evenings with wife and daughters. Nothing can be said by him to them to disguise his national security failure, and they understand it is the most important element in a president’s job.

      So what we see as weeks pass is not even a pretense anymore of presidential self-respect. He knows that, other than lefto-fascists / metro-sexuals / black-loyalists in our biggest cities, ordinary Jane & Joe working class Dems despise him.

      I’ve written this before, but worth repeating: during the remaining year until Inauguration 2016, absolutely nothing he does will surprise me. Hold on tight for what could easily be unprecedented irrationality by a very sick person.

      • jihad3tracker says

        Dec 16, 2015 at 2:51 pm

        Do you need evidence of how far he has descended into lunacy ? I just sent Robert a Reuters article about this:

        THE WHITE HOUSE ANNOUNCED THAT OBAMA WILL GO TO CALIFORNIA TO MEET WITH VICTIMS OF THE SAN BERNARDINO JIHAD ATTACK.

        • Joseph says

          Dec 16, 2015 at 4:01 pm

          They have no shame. Ol’ slimo and his administration are partly to blame for these murders.
          This is about just as bad as having an Imam at a navy Seal’s funeral or Hillary lying at the Benghazi victims funeral saying “We are going to get who is responsible for this”.
          The Obama administration is pure unadulterated EVIL.

        • Gea says

          Dec 17, 2015 at 9:33 pm

          Obama is lying as usual to hide his jihad against America. As US congress refuses to remove him from power, lets file a class action suit against this traitor of America and force him to go to jail for treason for causing to citizens hardship and damage in life and property of Americans.

          Anybody who extols Islam and Koran and defends Mohamed is like somebody extolling Nazism and Min Kampf, and defending Mohamed is like defending Hitler and Stalin combines, as Mohamed was much much worse. Would Americans vote for somebody who extols Nazism and Mein Kampf? Heil Mohamed! Heil Obama! Let sue the SOB and cart him to jail. There is enough evidence to convict him!

      • guide inside says

        Dec 17, 2015 at 9:02 am

        Do you mean his own inauguration in 2016, which he frequently jokes about. M.L. comes next, even before the first of the year, I fear.

    • Shane says

      Dec 17, 2015 at 10:20 am

      The American people voted for this twice and the second time there was a good man running against him. Blame the twits who voted for Obama twice and the conservatives who did not vote because McCain and Romney did not agree with them 100% on the issues.

      • Gea says

        Dec 17, 2015 at 9:37 pm

        It is possible that this traitor had cheated in 2012. As a judge in my precinct I had seen all kinds of attempts to cheat by guys who support this racist Obama. Obama has supporter among many techies who do not understand history and thus have been bamboozled by his lies and promotion of Islam.

        Let’s sue the SOB, as US Congress is refusing to do its job of removing the obvious traitor our of power!

    • underbed cat says

      Dec 17, 2015 at 5:56 pm

      I agree with you Don Keller, the second to last line says it all. It is shocking the nothing is set up to prevent his actions. A clueless congress is worst. A mass migration is the last step. At the very least the media is paying attention to the polls which reflects a problem that some of the public is well aware, the rest are totally too far left of gone.

  2. Joseph says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 1:37 pm

    United States should never give in to fear but should continue to welcome immigrants and refugees because “that’s who we are.”
    ___________________
    Yes we should never give into fear. We should not fear Islam and do what we have to do to keep terrorists out.
    We should NOT be afraid to close immigration.
    We should not be afraid at what the world thinks.
    We should not be afraid to do what it takes to preserve life and liberty.

    We should not be afraid to say to the world, The Saudis will not accept immigrants and neither will we!!

  3. miriamrove says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 1:41 pm

    He is smoking Hashish the choice drug of Jihadists. m

    • Joseph says

      Dec 16, 2015 at 10:14 pm

      And we thought there is no fun in Islam.

  4. Gary says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 1:42 pm

    Another red line in the sand…..

    Crossed over and over and over.

    “Hope & Change”

    2017 can’t come soon enough!

    In the mean time…

    I wonder how many times we’ll have to fly the American Flag at half staff.

  5. Gene says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 1:46 pm

    There are no jihadis among the refugees because Obama defines Jihadi as a republican member of the tea-party.

    • Annak says

      Dec 16, 2015 at 2:25 pm

      And if he could ban them, he would, Mind you, only a matter of time maybe.Enough time left. BO can do more damage in a day than most can in a lifetime

  6. Walter Sieruk says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    Obama in his feeling that the dangers of jihadists with all their murderous intention are not really among the refugees for Syria is a cause of concern. One reason why Obama must feel like this is that he greatly underestimates and is blind to the violent and deadly nature that is part of the essence of Islam. That Obama is in strong denial of the violent nature about this could be “just his problem ” Nevertheless his blind denial about the dangers of this religion is also America’s problem since Obama is the President of the Untied States.. As the the “holy book” of Islam,the Koran, which is,of course, the very foundation of Islam To give only one example out of many from the Koran that instruct in deadly violence is 9:111. Which teaches “The believers fight in Allah’s cause, they slay and are slain, they kill and are killed.” Furthermore, many tiimes jihadist Muslims who are members of different Islamic terror organizations have, together ,chanted “We love death, they love life.” This chant only reveals that Islam is a death cult . In great contrast to Islam is Christianity which is centered on Jesus. For Jesus instead of offering death offers life. As Jesus had said ” I come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.” John 10:10. [K.J.V]

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 16, 2015 at 9:40 pm

      Oh, I think Obama knows all about the violence of Islam–it’s just that he doesn’t disapprove…

      • Gea says

        Dec 17, 2015 at 9:42 pm

        All evidence points out that Barack Hussein Obama is a card carrying member of the Muslim Brotherhood…Egyptian news reporters claim to have evidence that he had joined MB in LA the same time when Mohamed Morsi was in LA studying at USCLA while Barry Soetoro was at the Occidental college from 1979-1981.

        All documentation about Barack Hussein Obama in LA had disappeared, as did his scholastic records. The man is a dangerous traitor who should be taken out of power ASAP.

  7. somehistory says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 2:34 pm

    The *shaming* line; “that’s not who we are.”
    They can’t say, like lynch did, that everyone is going to be prosecuted because they can’t yet make it stick.

    (Revelation 13)

  8. somehistory says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 2:49 pm

    guidance to schools and educators on dealing with anti-Muslim hate, harassment and the bullying of students
    ******************************************************************
    The schools are *teaching* the supremacy (delusional as it is) of islam, already.
    And what about the *hate* and actual violence moslims are showing for everyone who will not bow to their beast?
    islam incites its adherents to acts of violence and then other adherents whine and complain and try to have prosecuted those who don’t like living with the threat of more violence.
    It will get worse before it gets better, but it will get better…much better.

    (Revelation 17;19;20)

  9. kaffir geoff says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 2:59 pm

    And those up for nomination for 2015’s most punch-worthy faces are: Obama, merkel, zuckerburg, Kerry, Hillary, BLM, Michael moore, etc. etc. etc.

    • steamer says

      Dec 16, 2015 at 11:05 pm

      greetings from canada. you forgot trudeau!!!

      • Edwin1683 says

        Dec 17, 2015 at 1:59 am

        Indeed, steamer! No list would be complete without the Starry-Eyed Princeling.

        I also propose a secondary prize for the stupidest one on the list. Although they are all stupid, in their defense it must be said that all but one of them still do possess 50-100’brain cells each. The only one with less than five, and hence the only possible nominee, is the very same Childe Turdeau, who has two (2) functioning brain cells (which do not communicate with each other).

        Speaking of Turdeau, most of our colleagues from outside Canads don’t know that he also won many beauty contests before landing his latest gig as “P.M.” In fact, that was the only line on his resume but it was more than enough for the demanding Canadian electorate. He is so pretty that we really must add another prize for that.

        • Edwin1683 says

          Dec 17, 2015 at 2:01 am

          Clarification to my preceding post: all but Turdeau possess 50 – 100 brain cells each.

  10. pdxnag says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 3:04 pm

    “[W]e should see the Jewish refugee of World War II” as fleeing the Islamo-Fascist allies of Hitler yet again.

  11. mortimer says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 3:13 pm

    Anyone who opposes Obama is not an ‘American’. Obama defines ‘American’ as a Muslim immigrant.

    • Budvarakbar says

      Dec 17, 2015 at 6:26 am

      He is importing a major component of his private army!

  12. William says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 3:45 pm

    Obama says that Mohammedanism has been woven into the fabric of America since its founding. Having such a bizarre view of reality is like a man, who while staring and pointing at a lamp post on the side of a street, insists on telling you in earnest that there is a man over there sitting on a horse on the side of the road. There are many stupid people like him in this world. How can one have a rational conversation, much less an argument, with such a person. A concerned family would seek or encourage him to seek psychiatric help. But in academia and politics, it’s accepted as intellectual freedom. Obama is not irresponsible. He is not reckless. No sir. It is the American people who put him in office who are irresponsible and reckless. Obama is not an intelligent person. He is a moron.

  13. gfmucci says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 3:49 pm

    Hussein is – I was going to say “delusional”. But in his case, the more accurate word is “deceitful” as in “taqiyya-inspired.”

  14. Angemon says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 3:49 pm

    But Mr. Obama said that such fears are unfounded.

    Time to start worrying then.

    “In the Syrian seeking refuge today, we should see the Jewish refugee of World War II,” Mr. Obama said. Some Jewish refugee children were turned away from the United States during the period and were later killed by the Nazis.

    Oh, for f***’s sake. The Jewish were being persecuted because they were Jewish. The “Syrians” are under no such threat. And let’s suppose that the “Syrians” were in fact being persecuted for whatever reason – does that mean that there would be no terrorists among them posing as refugees? Of course not

    He mentioned the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II as a particularly grievous mistake.

    (…)

    “How quickly we forget,” Mr. Obama said. “One generation passes, two generations, and suddenly we don’t remember where we came from.”

    Oddly fitting – some (not all, *some*) Americans of Japanese ancestry were placed into camps during the duration of the war because the US Navy had cracked the Japanese Navy codes and knew of some spies and collaborators, and they needed to neutralize them in a way that wouldn’t let the Japanese Navy knew the US Navy had cracked their codes – as far as the Japanese knew, their spies and collaborators just happened to be round up with the rest of the people sent into camps.

    “We can never say it often or loudly enough: Immigrants and refugees revitalize and renew America,” Mr. Obama said.

    Not when the state takes money at gunpoint from hardworking Americans in order to support the “refugees”, allowing them to live comfortably in a encroaching bubble of 7th-century caravan robber guidelines rather than having to learn the local language and customs in order to be able to get a job. But what does Obama care, as long as they vote Democrat?…

    Ms. Khera said that since the Paris attacks, her office had documented an unprecedented series of hate crimes against Muslims and Muslim houses of worship — nearly 50 episodes, or an average of two a day. She said she had asked the president’s advisers to urge the federal government to prosecute “the most egregious” attacks as hate crimes.

    How many muslims were killed in those alleged 50 episodes? More or less than the people killed by the San Bernardino murderers? Of course, gearing up to kill people because of their religion somehow isn’t considered a hate crime.

    “We believe the level of hate violence has reached a crisis point, and that’s why it’s crucial that the federal government needs to send a message to the public, in the strongest terms, that these hate crimes will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law,” Ms. Khera said.

    Again, San Bernardino.

    She said one proposal that seemed to have traction at the meeting was for the Education Department to issue guidance to schools and educators on dealing with anti-Muslim hate, harassment and the bullying of students…

    Yes, go ahead and make muslims a protected species – see how well that works out for you…

    • Westman says

      Dec 16, 2015 at 8:13 pm

      “..the federal government needs to send a message to the public, in the strongest terms, that these hate crimes will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law,” Ms. Khera said.

      This is “Chairman Mao” creepy. Ms Khera runs a private advocate think tank, Muslim Advocates. Private!

      She has no business dictating US policy. She may suggest, but she is not a government official, has no more authority than Donald Trump, and her “office” could be rented space on K street. It seems we have another arm, like CAIR, on the octopus of Stealth Jihad.

  15. Richard says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    “In the Syrian seeking refuge today, we should see the Jewish refugee of World War II,”

    There is a bit of a difference between these two groups of refugees though. The Jews were being exterminated by a regime with a hateful, supremacist, murderous, ideology, They were refugees from, and not the bearers of, that ideology.

    The Syrian “refugees” are participants an in internecine was within a hateful. supremacist, murderous, ideology. They are the bearers of that ideology.

    • Richard says

      Dec 16, 2015 at 3:51 pm

      internecine war

    • Budvarakbar says

      Dec 17, 2015 at 6:37 am

      Never lose sight of the fact that all of them read from exactly the SAME Koran! From Gibraltar to the P.I.

  16. David says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 3:58 pm

    I have been fully convinced, for quite some time, that President Obama must be either : an absolute TRAITOR to our country OR completely INSANE!
    This man MUST be removed from office! And the sooner, the better.
    It will take a REAL President, at least 8 years, just to repair a portion of the damage Obama has caused.

  17. Champ says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 4:39 pm

    Obama says that concerns that jihadis will be among the Syrian refugees are unfounded

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    What’s crazy is that many people will actually buy this ginormous load of *crap*! …the same stupid people whom believed that his Hope & Change promises were a GOOD thing.

    • Rezali Mehil says

      Dec 16, 2015 at 5:57 pm

      Salaam Champ,

      I have to say I am very disappointed by what you commentators are saying about your own president.
      He is your esteemed leader – you voted him in – twice without blinking …you believed in his vision…and he is giving it to you in spades …and now you say you are disappointed …I mean what is that all about?

      You need to get behind him and support him – because that is what Americans do – they support their dictator come what may.

      America has always had a special relationship with Europe – “we feel your pain ” America says…and of course the people here are not agreeing with him …that’s shameful.

      How can you you feel Europe’s pain without letting in the refugees – I mean the Indians didn’t want the pilgrims – but they got them anyway – so what is different here.

      Indians ended up living on reservations -= you bastardised that …in a hotel …”do you have a reservation?”…you thought that was ironic and funny did you?

      That may happen to you – but that’s life…that is what you said to the Indians….but it is Allah SWT who will decide..

      Champ – shut up and get behind Obama…. he is your elected dictator …you chose now you suck up…

      More Later …

      Rezali.

      • Champ says

        Dec 16, 2015 at 6:33 pm

        Champ – shut up and get behind Obama…. he is your elected dictator …you chose now you suck up…

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        Nope. Not gonna shut up. Speaking the unvarinished TRUTH about this evil man, obama, needs to be voiced loud and clear …

        And speaking about evil men, the same holds true for ‘prophet’ muhammad. I won’t shut up about speaking the unvarnished TRUTH about him, as well. Only fools, losers and/or liars follow that evil perp. And there’s no in-between.

        BTW, I never “chose” obama. I never voted for this evil dictator. But rezali already knows this.

      • Wellington says

        Dec 16, 2015 at 7:53 pm

        You are really effed up, Rezali. Whatever your deficient and sick motives are, you contribute nothing, nothing at all, to truth. You are instructive, though, of how the human brain can often work in stupid and foolish fashion no matter what the IQ level is. Here you serve a purpose, as you have for years now at JW. I mean, just think of it, every time you post here, which is to say every time you gloat here, you only discredit Islam all the more. No exception to this assessment and so thanks for this because the more Islam is discredited the better.

        Oh yeah, another matter. I and untold numbers of others will never, now get this, NEVER, shut up about the iniquity which is Islam. So, your insult to Champ is of no account because you are so rooted in error. In fact, you never disappoint in this regard. Yes indeed, you are quite consistent and consistent in a way that all those who despise liberty often are.

        This is your legacy. This is your epitaph. Fitting. God, what a twisted mind you have but thanks for displaying it time and time again in the cause of Islam. In your own way, you are a force for freedom and truth precisely to the extent you are not. Hey, don’t you just love paradoxes?

        Have a good night, useful idiot. Oh yeah, you are a useful idiot. Very much so. But this time for the cause of truth and so unlike useful idiots for Islam, spiritual fascism which it is. By all means, don’t stop posting here at JW since in your own special way you are invaluable.

        • Karen says

          Dec 16, 2015 at 9:00 pm

          He never makes much sense, does he? I don’t even bother trying to sort out the jumble anymore, it’s just all so tiresome and boring. But agree with you his posts are excellent negative examples of thoughtful analysis.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 16, 2015 at 10:48 pm

          Great replies from Champ and Wellington!

        • Champ says

          Dec 17, 2015 at 3:40 am

          By all means, don’t stop posting here at JW since in your own special way you are invaluable.

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Exactly, Wellington!

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 16, 2015 at 10:45 pm

        The vicious Rezali Mehil wrote, replying to Champ:

        Salaam Champ,

        I have to say I am very disappointed by what you commentators are saying about your own president.
        He is your esteemed leader – you voted him in – twice without blinking …you believed in his vision…and he is giving it to you in spades …and now you say you are disappointed …I mean what is that all about?
        ……………………………..

        Rezali Mehil appears to understand *nothing* about democracy–who here is surprised?

        For one thing, very few of us here voted for Obama either time–I certainly didn’t, and neither did Champ. And Obama only got 51.1% of the vote in 2012–barely more than half. And even among those who might have voted for him, that does not mean that one is bound to support *all* policies or utterances of his or any elected official.

        But then, one would not expect a Mohammedan to understand such matters.

        More:

        You need to get behind him and support him – because that is what Americans do – they support their dictator come what may.
        ……………………………..

        We do not have “dictators” in the free West–but how can we expect a Muslim to grasp this? In Islam, it is the most ruthless thug who rules.

        More:

        America has always had a special relationship with Europe – “we feel your pain ” America says…and of course the people here are not agreeing with him …that’s shameful.

        How can you you feel Europe’s pain without letting in the refugees
        ……………………………..

        One can feel for the plight of Europe in having let in millions of violent supremacist Muslims–that doesn’t mean we want to further the circumstances that led to this pain in our own country.

        This would have been like feeling Europe’s pain during WWII, and responding not by fighting Fascism, but by surrendering to the Nazis. What madness…

        More:

        Indians ended up living on reservations -= you bastardised that …in a hotel …”do you have a reservation?”…you thought that was ironic and funny did you?
        ……………………………..

        Of course, Rezali Mehil shows once again that she understands almost nothing about English–no doubt she feels more comfortable with Urdu.

        And her idea that most “indians”–Native Americans–live on reservations is just bizarre. In reality, fewer than one in five Native Americans live on reservations. Moreover–and most importantly–no Native American *need* live on a reservation. Like all other Americans, they may live wherever they wish.

        Oakland, for example, has a large Native American population.

        More:

        That may happen to you – but that’s life…that is what you said to the Indians….but it is Allah SWT who will decide..
        ……………………………..

        This, of course, is intended as a threat.

        Does Rezali Mehil believe that Infidels living wealthy, advanced, and fulfilled lives–as we do–was decided by “Allah”, as well?

        Really, the clear superiority of Infidels drives Muslims even more insane than they were previously.

        More:

        Champ – shut up and get behind Obama…. he is your elected dictator …you chose now you suck up…
        ……………………………..

        Nope–sorry–we don’t elect dictators here–not even Obama can do anything about that. This must endlessly confuse a good Muslim like Rezali Mehil…

        • Champ says

          Dec 17, 2015 at 3:43 am

          Nope–sorry–we don’t elect dictators here–not even Obama can do anything about that. This must endlessly confuse a good Muslim like Rezali Mehil…

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Great point, Graven!

      • Mo says

        Dec 17, 2015 at 2:03 am

        @ Rezali Mehil

        “He is your esteemed leader – you voted him in – twice without blinking …you believed in his vision…and he is giving it to you in spades …and now you say you are disappointed …I mean what is that all about?”

        I sure didn’t vote for this corrupt, racist, America-hating, traitorous man.

      • duh_swami says

        Dec 17, 2015 at 8:05 am

        Res…If Allah has made you stark raving mad, he can’t be good, and if he can’t save you from your insanity, he can’t be God..You can regain your lost mind by by rejecting Allah..Do it today…

      • Champ says

        Dec 17, 2015 at 4:17 pm

        Champ – shut up and get behind Obama

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        What a surprise! Once again “really mindless” has taken aim at the wrong person, when obama is the one who needs to shut up. Yep, we can always count on r m to get everything all screwed-up and/or backwards.

  18. Ed says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 4:44 pm

    Well, for Pres. Barrack Hussein, there is no such thing as a Jihadists, and IS is not isslamic, but all there is is isslamophobia.

  19. Wellington says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 5:55 pm

    Even assuming not a single one of these so-called Syrian refugees is a “jihadist” (which is quite a stretch), America is still not well served by having more Muslims in America. Islam is spiritual fascism and I no more want additional Muslims in America than I do conventional, secular fascists.

    Moreover, it matters not that many Muslim immigrants won’t fully implement Islamic ideology. No ideology, spiritual or secular, should be judged by the fact that many adherents of that ideology don’t fully implement its tenets. Rather, an ideology should be judged by what it says and what Islam says has putridity written all over it (no other major faith does).

    And anyone who would call me a bigot for asserting what I have, being called such means no more to me than if someone said I was a bigot for being anti-Nazi or anti-Marxist. Yes, Islam belongs in the same category with these other two wretched, freedom-crushing ideologies. It is a badge of honor to be called a bigot where Islam is concerned and reflects badly, very badly, on one using this term or similar invectives against a critic of the spiritual fascism which is Islam. Such a person is either a fool or something worse and thus their opinion is of no value and should be despised.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 16, 2015 at 10:52 pm

      Hear, hear, Wellington!

  20. Karen says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 7:04 pm

    So the government is looking for ways to improve the situation. How amusing since the climate of concern is their own creation. President Obama said the refugees would be vetted and we all breathed a sigh of relief. Then it turned out he was playing word games and that there’s no data to inspect, so now the trust is broken. I am quite unwilling to trust him on this and unwilling to be mollified by the old ‘nation of immigrants’ rhetoric. Hit the pause button until they come clean on exactly what is going on.

    • somehistory says

      Dec 16, 2015 at 8:08 pm

      How long does it take for a family line, one whose ancient ancestors *immigrated* to some place, to no longer be *immigrants* in the country/
      Some of my ancestors are from *the People(…aka Native Americans, aka American Indian. Some are from Western Europe…but many generations ago…not my grand parents nor great grandparents, etc. For many generations of my ancestry, all were born here.
      If enough Americans are like my family line, America is no longer a *nation of immigrants.* If it is still considered so, then every nation on earth is the same, as each nation is made up of those born there and those that *immigrated.*
      For o to keep on harping on that, and saying “that’s not who we are” when people disagree, is propaganda. It is meant to quell the disagreement.

      • Karen says

        Dec 16, 2015 at 8:46 pm

        “Harping” is the perfect description. I always picture him wagging a chiding finger at us sbout something or other.

  21. Robert_K says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 8:18 pm

    What do you expect from a Gay Muslim President married to a transvestite Michael (Michelle) Obama?
    The truth is stranger than fiction.

  22. Bezelel says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 8:33 pm

    I think I have discovered the difference between jihadis and moderates. The answer is “NONE.”

    • Budvarakbar says

      Dec 17, 2015 at 7:39 am

      For sure — never forget that they all read the same Koran – from Gibraltar to the P.I.

  23. abad says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 8:50 pm

    And Obama knows this how???

    Through his crystal ball??

    Someone please get this fraud impeached.

    Now.

    • Budvarakbar says

      Dec 17, 2015 at 7:46 am

      You know — so far – on the national scene — only Sarah Palin has actually called for the SOB’s impeachment! — about a year and a half ago! Called out crying Juannie — was ignored!

      Here’s a link:

      http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2014/07/08/exclusive-sarah-palin-time-to-impeach-president-obama/

  24. gravenimage says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 9:38 pm

    Obama says that concerns that jihadis will be among the Syrian refugees are unfounded
    ………………………………..

    Never mind that some of the Paris Jihadists were Syrian “refugees”, or that such “refugees” have had images of beheadings on their phones. It’ll be fine! sarc/off

    More:

    “You may come from teeming cities or rural villages. You don’t look alike. You don’t worship the same way,” Mr. Obama said to a group, with each member clutching a tiny American flag. “But here, surrounded by the very documents whose values bind us together as one people, you’ve raised your hand and sworn a sacred oath.
    ……………………………….

    Does it matter that one of those Muslims swearing that sacred oath was would-be Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad, who when asked by the judge about his vowing his loyalty to the US on becoming a citizen, said, “I did swear but I did not mean it”? Probably not to Obama.

    More:

    “In the Syrian seeking refuge today, we should see the Jewish refugee of World War II,” Mr. Obama said. Some Jewish refugee children were turned away from the United States during the period and were later killed by the Nazis.
    ……………………………….

    And so that means that we should bring in a flood of invaders who follow a creed almost indistinguishable from that of the Nazis–those, indeed, who taunt Jews over their murder during the Holocaust? How does this make the least sense?

    More:

    One Muslim leader who attended, Farhana Khera, the executive director of Muslim Advocates, a national legal advocacy organization based in San Francisco, said she had left the meeting feeling “very heartened.”
    ……………………………….

    *Of course* this vicious Muslimah is “very heartened”–she has campaigned against any anti-Jihad police oversight of Muslims, and has excoriated any who dare criticize Jihad, Shari’ah, the Caliphate, and the relegation of non-Muslims to dhimmi status in the Muslim world.

    “Islamic Groups: We Want Exemption From Anti-Jihad Prosecutions”

    http://dailycaller.com/2015/02/17/islamist-groups-want-us-to-stop-surveillance-techniques/

  25. citycat says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 9:48 pm

    Such fears are unfounded, by each of those persons that voiced such fears?
    He is not backing up his statements like
    “cultivating American values”
    isn’t one of them free speech.
    Not backing up statements is Islamic, it seems, as i’ve noticed, that the Qur’an is rarely quoted by Muslims unless it is open warfare from the East, or by the ‘minority’ front that display banners like-
    ‘Sharia for wherever we are’
    Surely welcoming Islam is bowing to Islam therefore bowing to ‘fear’, which is ok if he’s Islamic, or maybe he has a dark light gun to his head.
    He’s not the only one, some here are apologistically arrogant, and some of the BBC chats on Islam are like the goon show, like laughing at Trump.
    It’s all a joke, ha ha ha

  26. Dave J says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 9:51 pm

    “Vetting” is now a proven failure, so only Trump’s position makes sense.

    Not that he is a genius (far from it), but at least he has opened up the discussion.

    Where it goes from here, I don’t know. I’d like to see a close public examination of the Koran and all the Muslim lobby groups. Take away all the “non-profit, religious organization” tax exemptions, for a start.

    We can actually do that, just as we can halt immigration, there is nothing “Unconstitutional” about it. We have the right to defend ourselves and should not let anyone take that right away from us.

    • Budvarakbar says

      Dec 17, 2015 at 10:09 am

      ” I’d like to see a close public examination of the Koran —” Horrendous waste of time. All that one needs to know about the Koran is in Ann Barnhardt’s Koran burning video:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htshvId51UE

      The actual recitals and burning of the passages she has picked out and book marked with bacon strips starts at about 6:20. This was actually produced over 4-1/2 years ago – maybe 5-1/2

      • Rezali Mehil says

        Dec 18, 2015 at 1:30 am

        idiot

  27. Matthieu Baudin says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 9:55 pm

    “… WASHINGTON — Standing in a room with the original Constitution, Declaration of Independence and Bill of Rights, President Obama on Tuesday declared that the United States should never give in to fear but should continue to welcome immigrants and refugees because “that’s who we are…”

    The U.S.A has in fact been the most generous large nation for decades in terms of taking migrants and refugees. But the nation has not taken just anyone who wished to come – a discriminatory process has always operated that has been selective and sought to serve the interests of the country.

    The whole history of changing immigration policies in the U.S. and allied countries has always been a matter of changes to selection criteria which is in itself a discriminatory practice. There is no hiding from the fact that there has never been a non discriminatory approach to immigrant selection, whether it is based on assets, country of origin, numbers of dependent, health profiles, past political affiliations or whatever else.

    To selectively discriminate against potential migrants who may harbour Jihadist sympathies, at a time of heightened security against a violent international Jihadis campaign, is probably less unfair, all considered, than many discriminatory principles that have operated in the past.

    • Budvarakbar says

      Dec 17, 2015 at 10:12 am

      Hey — PROFILE and DISCRIMINATE — someday they may save your life!

      • Rezali Mehil says

        Dec 18, 2015 at 1:32 am

        idiot

        • Baucent says

          Dec 18, 2015 at 3:18 am

          Ah yes, insults, the last resort of the person without an argument.

  28. Dave says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 11:01 pm

    I was not the one to invent lies: they were created in a society divided by class and each of us inherited lies when we were born. It is not by refusing to lie that we will abolish lies: it is by eradicating class by any means necessary.

    — Jean-Paul Sartre, Dirty Hands: act 5, scene 3. 1963[1]

    Virtually All the comments are focusing on Obama but he acts with the support of the majority ; will the majority ever change will it ever get it right? Will the election resolve this conflict. ? Trump , Cruz or Cruz,Trump can they , will they convince the majority , the class of the willfully ignorant . ?

  29. Karen says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 11:30 pm

    This is what Mr. Obama must say if he wishes to admit his massive failure here and restore trust, but I doubt he has the courage:

    “My fellow Americans, I fibbed to you when I said the refugees would be vetted. In fact, no such process is possible since no data on these folks exists, and we have almost no ties with the Syrian government anyway. We must accept the certainty that at least some jihadi terrorists will be admitted, and at least some will act on their impulses. It also follows that some of you will be harmed or die. This is just simple statistics and probability. You are probably asking, ‘then why let them in?’ Because, as a hard Leftist, I always have a point to prove, and that is paramount. I usually frame this as ‘important American values’ to enlist your support, as if I ever cared about such things. And even though by now I’ve convinced you that America is not exceptional, certainly no better than any other country, I’ll wrap up in the flag if it helps me prevail.”

  30. eduardo odraude says

    Dec 16, 2015 at 11:37 pm

    Some useful stats from http://www.thereligionofpeace.com:

    Over 27,000 deadly terror attacks done in the name of Islam after 9/11/01.

    More people are killed by jihadists each year than in all 350 years of the Spanish Inquisition combined. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition

    Islamic terrorists murder more people everyday than the Ku Klux Klan has in the last 70 years.
    http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/shipp/lynchingyear.html
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-30080914

    More civilians were killed by Muslim hijackers in two hours on September 11th than in the 26 years of sectarian conflict in Northern Ireland.
    http://cain.ulst.ac.uk/issues/violence/death95w.htm

    Islamic extremists massacred more Iraqis on a single day in June, 2014 than the number of American criminals executed in the last 40 years.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Speicher_massacre
    http://deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions-united-states-1608-1976-state

    Muslim fundamentalists kill more people everyday than were killed during the entire Salem Witch Trials.
    http://deathpenaltyinfo.org/executions-united-states-1608-1976-state

    Sunni supremacists slaughtered more Yazidi minorities on August 14, 2014 than the number of black Americans lynched by White supremacists in the previous 100 years.
    http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/isis-massacred-796-yazidis-while-obama-campaigned-against-iraq-war/
    http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/shipp/lynchingyear.html

  31. Abubakar J.M. says

    Dec 17, 2015 at 5:51 am

    Let Obama and other western leaders continue in their stupidity of taking it upon themselves to brand Islam as a religion of peace even when it is crystal clear even to an insane illiterate that Islan indeed thrives on violence. Sooner than later, jihad induced bombings and killings will be a daily occurrence in America and Europe as they continue to accept Muslims from the Middle East in the name of refugees and failing to preach the Gospel of Christ to them(the Muslim refugees) with a view to converting them to the true religion of peace in this world which incontrovertibly is Christianity! That will be a deserving price for the western world’s apathy towards their religion which is Christianity.

  32. Susan says

    Dec 17, 2015 at 7:42 am

    TRAITOR Obama sees exactly what we see, and yet continues to deny the reality of it all. It’s “crazy making”, also known as gaslighting. This is a typical strategy narcissists use to brainwash and control their victims. We aren’t crazy. Obama is/has been attempting to psychologically manipulate us until we comply with his agenda, i.e. the islamization of America.

  33. duh)sami says

    Dec 17, 2015 at 7:51 am

    #All my allusions matter…Judas and Benedict Arnold were saints compared to Rasulullah Obama….One of history’s histories greatest frauds and traitors..

  34. duh_swami says

    Dec 17, 2015 at 7:55 am

    About 1/3 of my posts end up in in outer space but not here…What’s up with that?

    • Oliver says

      Dec 17, 2015 at 7:09 pm

      DuI think the same with me. also see my post further down.

  35. JKP2 says

    Dec 17, 2015 at 8:43 am

    Bullcrap. Daesh (ISIS) Terrorists already were arrested by police in Finland.

  36. jura says

    Dec 17, 2015 at 8:49 am

    Well, do I get it right? Muslims are Jews and are terrorized by white man.
    Americans, impeach him!
    This person leads America and not only America to a large scale catastrophe. Is capable of it in less than one year till end of his presidency.

  37. JeremyR says

    Dec 17, 2015 at 9:25 am

    I think your title is a tad off. Shouldn’t it be “Obama says that concerns that refugees will be among the Syrian jihadis are unfounded”?
    Just askin. Thanks.

  38. bigduv says

    Dec 17, 2015 at 9:50 am

    “American values” should not be a suicide pact. “that’s not who we are” should not be a slogan to lead us into suicide.

    But Obama does not want suicide. He wants to murder our freedom and Constitution and replace it with the socialist ideas that he was taught by his mother and father. Importing masses of Muslims is the most effective way to do it.

  39. jaja says

    Dec 17, 2015 at 1:58 pm

    A Churchill needed.

  40. Moshe says

    Dec 17, 2015 at 3:24 pm

    I trust Obama’s opinion. He must know that all the Jihadis have already arrived from Syria and Iraq during the last 3-4 years, so there is no reason to worry.

  41. Oliver says

    Dec 17, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    It is my OPINION, that anyone who believes ANYTHING that Obama says has a low IQ.

    In my opinion, if his lips move, he is most likely either (a) lying or (b) doesn’t know what he is talking about.

    On another issue- is it me, or has JW stopped sending emails on posts- and one has to read the daily collection of posts? And also, no longer a boxes to get new posts and new comments? Or is that the way it is and will be?

  42. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Dec 17, 2015 at 10:14 pm

    Caliph MuBarak Hussein Osama knows better than the Lebanese Gov does!

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