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Obama: We can’t let “this fight be defined as a war between America and Islam”

Dec 6, 2015 8:51 pm By Robert Spencer

The “millions of patriotic Muslim-Americans who reject their hateful ideology” are not doing anything to counter it. There is no program in any mosque or Islamic school in the U.S. teaching young Muslims why they should reject the understanding of Islam that the Islamic State propagates. Obama’s solicitude for these patriotic Muslim-Americans rules out any possibility of understanding the ideology, motives and goals of the jihad terrorists — and that in turn rules out any possibility of defeating them.

“FULL SPEECH: Obama says ‘Freedom is more powerful than fear,’” PBS, December 6, 2015:

…Here’s what else we cannot do. We cannot turn against one another by letting this fight be defined as a war between America and Islam. That, too, is what groups like ISIL want.

ISIL does not speak for Islam. They are thugs and killers, part of a cult of death. And they account for a tiny fraction of a more than a billion Muslims around the world, including millions of patriotic Muslim-Americans who reject their hateful ideology.

Moreover, the vast majority of terrorist victims around the world are Muslim.

If we’re to succeed in defeating terrorism, we must enlist Muslim communities as some of our strongest allies, rather than push them away through suspicion and hate.

That does not mean denying the fact that an extremist ideology has spread within some Muslim communities. It’s a real problem that Muslims must confront without excuse.

Muslim leaders here and around the globe have to continue working with us to decisively and unequivocally reject the hateful ideology that groups like ISIL and Al Qaeda promote, to speak out against not just acts of violence, but also those interpretations of Islam that are incompatible with the values of religious tolerance, mutual respect, and human dignity.

But just as it is the responsibility of Muslims around the world to root out misguided ideas that lead to radicalization, it is the responsibility of all Americans, of every faith, to reject discrimination. It is our responsibility to reject religious tests on who we admit into this country. It’s our responsibility to reject proposals that Muslim-Americans should somehow be treated differently. Because when we travel down that road, we lose. That kind of divisiveness, that betrayal of our values plays into the hands of groups like ISIL.

Muslim-Americans are our friends and our neighbors, our co- workers, our sports heroes. And, yes, they are our men and women in uniform who are willing to die in defense of our country. We have to remember that….

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  1. Robert Crawford says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 8:53 pm

    Impeach him for refusing to fight America’s enemies.

    • Saleem Smith says

      Dec 6, 2015 at 9:21 pm

      I am an ex-Muslim living with Islam’s formal and informal death penalty for apostasy.

      In his speech Obama said that we should “not be suspicious of Islamic organizations.” With this statement Obama has shown himself to be treacherous snake – as no one could possibly be this f**king stupid. Speaking as an ex-Muslim I know to NEVER trust a Muslims’ loyalty to anything other than Islam. Muslims believe in a horrible lie which forces them to promote and protect this lie. And a “proper interpretation of Islam” is even more malevolent than one could possibly imagine their worst nightmares. The Quran and Muhammad’s Sunnah are filled with all manner of evil.

      Islam is no “religion of peace.” Islam is primarily a religion of “injustice, intolerance, hatred, and violence.” The fact is, if we non-Muslims were to say about Muslims what the Qur’an says about us, we would be arrested for hate speech. The Qur’an largely preaches discrimination, death, and imposition of its dogma on everyone. Certainly some Muslims will be offended by such statements, but frankly, so what? Judaism and Christianity, the world’s two other major monotheistic religions, have had to face the harshest of scrutiny and criticism for several hundred years which continues to this day. Islam must not be granted any special privileges or be exempt from such treatment – the implications are of tremendous importance.

      Here is a recent statement from a group of Bangladeshi apostates living in the UK explaining the reasons why they have abandoned Islam:

      “One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives (Qur’an 33:50). He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way…

      The statement continues,

      Muhammad was a narcissist, like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified.”

      • Saleem Smith says

        Dec 6, 2015 at 9:24 pm

        Is it true that Obama named his pet dog Mohammed

        • The vilest of creatures says

          Dec 6, 2015 at 11:56 pm

          Probably not, Muslims hate dogs.

  2. Ed says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 8:56 pm

    He took to the airways to apologize for isslamophobia and reassure muslms that he is there to protect them. Everything else, just hollow promises and other meaningless chatter.

    • JawsV says

      Dec 6, 2015 at 9:12 pm

      Within the first minute or two he referred to ISIL as “a perversion of Islam.”

      I said, “Yep, there it is.” Totally predictable. You know it’s a bad situation when you can predict what the United States president will say.

      • jihad33tracker says

        Dec 6, 2015 at 10:09 pm

        Yes, JawsV, I had the same reaction as you — “Yep, there it is.” And I knew that he would say that excusative crap up front as soon as possible.

        Tonight we see him clearly: Muslim life during impressionable childhood / ineradicable hatred of Western freedoms / meltdown as Islam is exposed.

  3. Jaladhi says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 8:57 pm

    Islam has declared war against all of humanity and we are part of it – but the moron always says America is not at war with Islam and so I guess we should just submit meekly to them and not fight back?? I don’t know who is on whose side?

    • EYESOPEN says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 1:41 am

      Really???? The Usurper-in-Chief seemed to make that abundantly clear.

  4. Diane Harvey says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 8:59 pm

    “ISIL does not speak for Islam. They are thugs and killers, part of a cult of death.”

    And Muslims living in North America* and ISIS all read from the same book. You know, that book that authorizes Muslims to subject or if necessary kill non-Muslims.

    *These people are NOT Americans or Canadians. They are merely Muslims living in America, waiting for their time to advance Islam into the government system.

    • J mcquoid says

      Dec 6, 2015 at 11:54 pm

      Yeah if walks like a duck quacks like a duck it might be a duck yeah think

  5. Sam says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 8:59 pm

    “We can’t let “this fight be defined as a war between America and Islam, ISIL does not speak for Islam”

    Obama, you are an idiot. ISIS is the real Islam.

    • EYESOPEN says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 1:42 am

      No, he is not an idiot. But he IS a deceiver of the highest (or lowest) order.

  6. Ed says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 8:59 pm

    BHO rhetoric is aimed towards some imaginary enemy called “ISIL”
    Not to be confused with ISIS, whom he supports with inaction and interfering with military and law enforcement agencies.

  7. Jaladhi says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 9:05 pm

    He says” this vicious ideology is being promoted by ISIL” – hmm doesn’t he know that the vicious ideology promoted by ISIL is promoted by Mo/allah in Quran and all imams all over the world promote it every Friday evening.

  8. KrazyKafir says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    The voice of weakness and capitulation

    • John Johness says

      Dec 6, 2015 at 10:19 pm

      It is the voice and reasoning of a social worker. A person who uses calming words and the certainty that negotiation and mutual respect will solve all issues. It reflects his charity/community worker background. He is the product of a stable America, where all issues are from the bad times past and the new ones only need a conference table to solve.
      Obama in history would have had Ghenjis Khan, Mohammed, Mao, Stalin, idi Amin and the rest, sit around the conference table and vent their issues so we can work though them.
      Obama is the vocal soma of the modern caring world. The Islamic State will walk right over him and not even notice.

  9. Baucent says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 9:08 pm

    “Moreover, the vast majority of terrorist victims around the world are Muslim.”

    Robert do you have any statistics that might throw light on this claim? He uses it quite often.

    No doubt he is referring to Sunni terror attacks on Shiites. But there are thousands of mainly Christian victims of Boko Haram in Nigeria alone.

    • Jay Boo says

      Dec 6, 2015 at 9:21 pm

      Christians are not always available as many have already been killed off or displaced years ago but Muslims always need someone else to blame so they will kill other Muslims rather than admit to Islam’s emptiness and disgrace.

      I do not doubt that the vast majority of terrorist victims (of Muslim killers) around the world are Muslim.
      Obama might have been more specific though to mention that Muslims are usually the terrorists killing Muslims.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 6, 2015 at 9:30 pm

        Obama might have been more specific though to mention that Muslims are usually the terrorists killing Muslims.
        ……………………

        Excellent, Jay Boo.

      • Edwin1683 says

        Dec 6, 2015 at 10:53 pm

        The fact that they kill each other doesn’t detract one iota from the fact that they want to kill us.

        • EYESOPEN says

          Dec 7, 2015 at 1:44 am

          Now THAT is cutting to the core of the matter!

        • Michael Copeland says

          Dec 7, 2015 at 6:31 am

          Also they are INSTRUCTED (over and over again) to kill us.

    • John Johness says

      Dec 6, 2015 at 10:29 pm

      Yes- it is the usual obfuscation through collective nouns. The Jihadis do not regard the people they kill as Muslims.
      This use of language is interesting – it is similar to the Sunni claim they are working for charities and helping the human beings suffering due to war. But on closer inspection you find that they not helping Shia as they are not regarded as human.
      When they say they are building a mosque for Muslims, they mean “their muslims” not all the people we call Muslims. On the other hand they are quite willing to use the collective noun when asking for money, land or Government assistance.
      The trick here is to ask if it includes Shia.

    • Dee says

      Dec 6, 2015 at 11:55 pm

      Not to mention that the reason Muslims are constantly killing Muslims is due to the deeply flawed doctrine of war. The sole positive of Islam is that they are constantly killing each other thus hindering the expansionist efforts.

  10. Ed says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 9:10 pm

    Who delivered that speech?? Barrak Hussein Obama or CAIR ??

  11. Jay Boo says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 9:12 pm

    Damage Control speech

    Obama did begin by saying in effect that (yes the lives of the victims matter too). a bit late on that.

    — He made some concessions as well in reference to Chattanooga and Ft Hood (yes it was terrorism)
    — He got out in front of the fact that the mail order bride came in on a special Visa and we can rest assured that he will be scrutinizing that more closely next time.
    — He also conceded that Muslim communities have a responsibility as well.
    — He did not have the luxury of riding his Islamophobia high horse as high as usual.

    • Jay Boo says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 1:04 am

      Note: BBC report cherry picks speech to support Leftist agenda.

  12. cs says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 9:14 pm

    Why not you cunt?

    • Jay Boo says

      Dec 6, 2015 at 9:27 pm

      cs,
      Your crude reference to the female anatomy is divisive to women who comment here by implying women are less valuable than men and adds nothing meaningful.

  13. gravenimage says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 9:26 pm

    Obama: We can’t let “this fight be defined as a war between America and Islam”
    ………………………

    Heaven forfend that he defend Americans against those who want to murder or enslave us all.

    • EYESOPEN says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 1:46 am

      Bingo Graven! You win the cookie.

  14. JawsV says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    Hussein knows the Koran from his madrassa years in Indonesia. I can’t figure out why he is deliberately lying about its contents. To what purpose?

  15. ICH says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 9:31 pm

    I want someone to tell the truth about Muhammed.

    Its no secret he was as bad as these guys today.

  16. Wellington says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 9:31 pm

    Clueless or complicit. No third choice really exists.

    • EYESOPEN says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 1:48 am

      Ahhh, I’ll take “complicit” for $2000, Alex.

  17. boakai ngombu says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 9:34 pm

    “It’s our responsibility to reject proposals that Muslim-Americans should somehow be treated differently.”

    OK. no Islamic imperialism suggested by various groups shall be eradicated. … no prayer thugs shall be allowed to block traffic … hijabs shall be stripped … criticism shall be done … rape gangs shall be pursued for punishment … no islamic terrorism shall be allowed…no SHARIA shall be encouraged

    • JawsV says

      Dec 6, 2015 at 9:42 pm

      Muslims should be treated differently because they follow an ideology that says to kill us, the unbelievers.

  18. Bezelel says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 9:39 pm

    He is still planning to disarm us while flooding the country with muslims and saying it’s the American way? And what exactly does it take to be put on a no fly list and have your gun rights taken? Nothing good or even near good comes from hussein obola.Can’t some one tell the freak that islam declared war already?

  19. worldcitizen1919 says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 9:52 pm

    I cannot accept that 1.6 billion people are evil or are influenced by an evil book. The majority of the 1.6 billion Muslims are not involved in terrorism or anti-social behaviour and are just normal average human beings like you and I.

    Terrorism is a corrupt perverse interpretation of the Quran using Suras out of context to encourage violence but if it were truly an evil ideology as some say then long ago America and the world would have been conquered.

    I’m not into demonising 1.6 billion innocent peaceful people who follow the Quran doing good deeds and living good virtuous lives because of some groups who want to turn east against west.

    The Quran is not an evil Book like some maintain, in every passage where Muslims are told they can fight it is always after being attacked first. In self defense.

    Eventually the truth of the defensive nature of Muhammad’s military expeditions will come out from this confusion and it will be proven that both the Quran and Muhammad have brought good to humanity. But if we want to generalise we could also say all westerners are evil people because of Hiroshima and all Europeans are satanic because of Hitler but a discerning eye doesn’t judge an entire race or population of people on the actions of the minority and terrorists do not constitute anything but the smallest minority.

    However, if westerners continually blame all of Islam and the Quran and disrespect their culture and attack their beliefs then they are going to turn all westerners against all easterners and create civil war in every country.

    Obama doesn’t want a race war in America just because of a few terrorist attacks. You want all American streets and cities to flow with blood because of hatred flamed by extreme westerners and extreme Muslims?

    The next time there is an attack in America are white Americans going to go and attack black Muslims who had nothing to do with it? It’s madness to promote hatred between human beings.

    So,let’s have fun and create hate and another world war. We’re not at war with 1.6 billion people. We ARE at war with terrorist organisations and extremists, let’s be clear in our mind who we are at war against and let’s not drag the entire human race into a catastrophe just to appease our prejudices and hatreds.

    Demonising 1.6 billion people’s beliefs is only creating more hatred. It’s madness. We want peace and unity not more war and blood shed.

    Obama’s address was very responsible. He doesn’t want a world war or a black and white war in America so he’s trying to define for us where the war lies and there is no war against 1.6 innocent good Muslim fellow human beings and those itching for hatred are wrong, dead wrong and taking us to a precipice.

    • Bezelel says

      Dec 6, 2015 at 9:59 pm

      worldcitizen1919, You need to accept that islam is a corrupt perversion of religion. The koran is a full corruption and perversion. The product of the koran is corrupt and perverse people. Islam was a bad idea to start with and it went downhill from there.

    • John Johness says

      Dec 6, 2015 at 10:36 pm

      Thank you
      Now as you know so much. All the actions of the Islamic State are backup by direct quotes from the Qur’an. That is their only justification. Which one of their quotes is wrong?
      You can find it all in their Dabiq online magazine

    • Mo says

      Dec 6, 2015 at 10:53 pm

      @ worldcitizen1919

      “I cannot accept that 1.6 billion people are evil or are influenced by an evil book.”

      First of all, what you can or cannot accept is not the focus here. People are free to accept or reject things that are true. That doesn’t make the thing itself untrue.

      But more to the point, can you show me where this website has ever said that? Show it to me. I am sick and tired of people like you tossing out statements and vague accusations of this and that, but never providing any facts for it. Show me where Robert himself or this site has said that.

      ” The majority of the 1.6 billion Muslims are not involved in terrorism or anti-social behaviour and are just normal average human beings like you and I.”

      First, how do you know that?

      Second, where are the “majority of the 1.6 billion Muslims” protesting the actions of their violent coreligionists? At least, in Western countries where they are entirely free to do so? Where are they? Answer me. This mythical “majority of peaceful Muslims” is always thrown out there like it’s accepted and unquestionable fact. So again, I ask you, where are they?

      Most important of all, even if that were proven – which again, you did not do – so what? Those people are not the problem here, are they?

      “Terrorism is a corrupt perverse interpretation of the Quran using Suras out of context to encourage violence but if it were truly an evil ideology as some say then long ago America and the world would have been conquered.”

      LOL! Can you show me all those out of context passages?

      “I’m not into demonising 1.6 billion innocent peaceful people who follow the Quran doing good deeds and living good virtuous lives because of some groups who want to turn east against west.”

      That’s nice. Show me where this site is doing that.

      You love spewing out claim after claim and accusation after accusation. Now back them up with FACTS.

      “The Quran is not an evil Book like some maintain, in every passage where Muslims are told they can fight it is always after being attacked first. In self defense.”

      Can you tell me what attack against Muslims was perpetrated by the people in those planes and buildings on 9/11/2001?

      Liar. I have read your Quran. I know what your ideology teaches.

      Now, provide the evidence I requested.

    • Wellington says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 1:21 am

      An ideology, worldcitizen, should be judged by what it says and not by the fact that many adherents to that ideology don’t fully implement its tenets. Islam is the only religion that calls for war to be made upon the unbeliever “until all religion is with Allah.” {8:39}. Its dismal holy book, the Koran, oozes hatred towards the non-believer (e.g., Sura 60:4). Wherever Islam dominates true liberty is absent and non-Muslims, a la Jim Crow, are pure second-class citizens.

      Islam is a totalitarian ideology and ALL Muslims are at least confused human beings and not a few are just downright evil PRECISELY because of Islam. Sorry, not buying your whitewash of Islam. Fewer and fewer people are and count on even more people “getting” Islam with each passing year. Oh yeah, count on it. Try taking your whitewashing of Islam elsewhere. You will make no headway here at JW since many folks here are very well informed about this longest lived and best disguised evil of all time.

      • EYESOPEN says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 1:51 am

        Best response yet. Cheers.

    • Champ says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 2:06 am

      worldcitizen1919, not all muslims are terrorists, but the vast majority of terrorists *are* muslims.

    • quotha raven says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 7:59 am

      To worldcitizen 1919, who sez “Obama’s address was very responsible. He doesn’t want a world war or a black and white war in America so he’s trying to define for us where the war lies and there is no war against 1.6 innocent good Muslim fellow human beings and those itching for hatred are wrong, dead wrong and taking us to a precipice.”

      World citizen? I think not. I think you have spent the last couple of decades living in a cave. Your thinking is some murky, fogbound stuff.

      Cheers!

      quotha raven

    • Mo says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 3:03 pm

      @ worldcitizen1919

      How I loathe when people like you spout off nonsense, get challenged on it, are requested to provide evidence, and then DISAPPEAR.

  20. Plutarchus says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 9:52 pm

    OBAMA’S CONFUSED INEFFECTIVE SPEECH ON TERRORISM AND NATIONAL SECURITY

    Just imagine FDR after Pearl Harbor giving a speech urging Congress to tighten gun control laws as part of an overall strategy for defeating the Japanese when Japan’s greatest general said that invading the US would be a nightmare for his country because of a heavily armed civilian population. And though FDR mobilized the nation and unified it behind him Obama calls for national unity while continuing to demonize Republicans and FOX News and dividing us along racial, ethnic, class and gender lines..And worse still, he’s doubling down on his insistence that refusing to take in thousands of ISIS infiltrated Syrian refugees would be a victory for ISIS that would grow their numbers and make their defeat more difficult. ‘Trust me;’ says Obama (who once said that al Qaida was being defeated and ISIS was “JV”) not one ISIS terrorist will be among the refugees. Well the vast majority of Americans are disillusioned with this man and saying in poll after poll:

    “IN OBAMA WE DISTRUST!”

    What a sad, sad man.

    http://www.apollospeaks.com

    • Plutarchus says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 5:16 am

      HA! When I brought this moronic stalker’s mad obsession with me to BNI’s attention she evenhandedly posted my reply.

      http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/12/05/in-the-wake-of-the-recent-paris-and-california-muslim-terrorist-attacks-nyc-mayor-bill-dhimmi-deblasio-expands-his-outreach-to-muslims/#comment-521702

      The stalker ridicules my web site when his site is as empty as he is having nothing more to look at than a dismal sunset.

      https://socabi.wordpress.com/

  21. Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 9:56 pm

    “[A]n extremist ideology has spread within some Muslim communities. It’s a real problem that Muslims must confront without excuse. Muslim leaders here and around the globe have to … speak out against not just acts of violence, but also those interpretations of Islam that are incompatible with the values of religious tolerance, mutual respect, and human dignity.”

    Mr. President, thank you for these stirring words. But please be more explicit about “those interpretations of Islam that are incompatible” with our values. Do these incompatible interpretations include, for example, Quran 4:34, 5:33, 9:29, and 47:4? If you have not already done so, please have DHS come up with a complete list of your disapproved ayat and ahadith, and publish them on a dot-gov* website that loyal Muslims can consult.

    *Note: It is sometimes lamented that English has only a few words that rhyme with “love”: above, dove, glove, of, shove. But thanks to Al Gore’s invention of the Internet, romantic songwriters now have an expanded repertoire of “love”-rhymes. Example: “a website that we love / Obamacare-dot-gov” (that’s iambic tetrameter).

  22. somehistory says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 10:16 pm

    If *more moslims than anyone else are killed*…how come there are still so many moslims?

    Christians are being killed and the numbers of Christians where Christians can still be found are way lower than when the current slaughter began.

    If moslims are killing more moslims than they are killing Christians and others, why is their overall number not dropping?

    If more moslims are being killed than non moslims, why do moslims fight so hard to keep from blaming the guilty for the killing?

    Why do so many moslims support isis? Why do so many reject the idea that islam is violent?
    If so many moslims are being killed that they say they are the largest group of victims, why do they not try to stop the killing instead of demanding less criticism of their filthy code of unholy conduct?

    If they don’t wish to be treated differently, they should begin to reject the idea that they are so very special and superior to everyone else. No more insistence on the scarf at work, on park rides, etc. And no more terror….obey the laws and disband the terror training camps, turn in those known to be planning terror and cease claiming victim status each time moslims attack non moslims.

    Of course, he did not really address the issue. And he will not in the future that he says does not belong to any of us.

    {Revelation 13}

  23. Ren says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 10:22 pm

    It is not ISIS that poison the mind of people. It is radical islam that does.

    • dlbrand says

      Dec 6, 2015 at 11:02 pm

      As did his predecessor with “al-Qeada,” so does Obama now with IS.

      When it is Islam that is the enemy we face, Islam, and those who hold that belief system as sacred. Plain and simple.

  24. iprazhm says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 10:32 pm

    Of COURSE not, because WE would win and Islamists would LOSE, Obama can’t have that!!!

  25. dlbrand says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 10:54 pm

    Fourteen years into this conflict, in the wake of both the most recent Paris his and this last week’s SB hit, Mr. Obama begs we stick to stupidity on that in the so-called sacred texts of Islam.

    As did his predecessor, Mr. Obama begs we buy from him—at, take note, steep, and deep cutting cost—the lie, the misinformation they feed us on Islam and the adherents to it.

  26. Mo says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 10:55 pm

    There is no amount of money that could have enticed me to watch and listen to this man spout off his lies.

    How I long for this time next year, when he will soon be GONE!

    • JawsV says

      Dec 6, 2015 at 11:08 pm

      He loves reminding us how many over-populating Muslims there are. How many times did he say “1.6 billion?” At least 3. It’s called Demographic Jihad. Polygamy works wonders in boosting a population.

  27. Ashley M Heidi Carter says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 10:57 pm

    Why do I NOT have this publication delivered to my inbox daily? Why have I not liked this publications facebook page? Axiology. This article attempts to morally indict Muslims for failing to recognize a branch of philosophy that the West has left dormant since the Second World War for starters. Secondly, it can be argued that by failing to even inform it’s readership of the relevance of the term cuts off it’s own moral basis for American Exceptionalism. When the facebook community or my friends, family or professional peers make me aware that this publication has raised it’s journalism standards, I might DEIGN to read another article here. But for the time being: Hell No. This feminist walked away from trash because I was raised to be intelligent and to know who I am, who God is, to know that in public, I can choose how I serve or worship my God and that I need not be a whore a bitch or bigot in the process.

    • Mo says

      Dec 8, 2015 at 8:21 pm

      @ Ashley M Heidi Carter

      “Why do I NOT have this publication delivered to my inbox daily? Why have I not liked this publications facebook page? Axiology. This article attempts to morally indict Muslims for failing to recognize a branch of philosophy that the West has left dormant since the Second World War for starters. Secondly, it can be argued that by failing to even inform it’s readership of the relevance of the term cuts off it’s own moral basis for American Exceptionalism. When the facebook community or my friends, family or professional peers make me aware that this publication has raised it’s journalism standards, I might DEIGN to read another article here. But for the time being: Hell No. This feminist walked away from trash because I was raised to be intelligent and to know who I am, who God is, to know that in public, I can choose how I serve or worship my God and that I need not be a whore a bitch or bigot in the process.”

      What on EARTH are you babbling about?

  28. Mike says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 11:02 pm

    President George W. Bush, in an address to a joint session of Congress on September 20, 2001 said, “Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists.”

    In retrospect, Bush was a whole lot better than he seemed at the time.

    I’d happily see him or similar back just about now!

  29. Mathew Solo says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 11:02 pm

    There are certainly things this President is just Un-Able to Approach.

    Gun Violence is highly concentrated in urban areas and associated with gang violence involving male juveniles or young adult males… Although mass shootings have been covered extensively in the media…mass shootings account for a very small amount of gun-related deaths…so far.

    If any President would act on the very source which Causes Our Numbers To Be So High…by focusing on this one long standing source of most gun violence…it could be diminished greatly…and A WIDE OPEN REAL SOURCE OF ILLEGAL GUN DISTRIBUTION could be disrupted…these gangs connect with any one for profits…these aren’t just dumb kids.

    It seems we somehow come to view this urban violence as…it is just the way it is there…it is expected…and let it be there…not here…but…these are major chunks of major cities…
    major chunks of our Nation…it is in fact the Nation’s Problem.

    We can not stop all Lunacy…yet where we do know we can find it…we could try there.

    Any President can use His Bully Pulpit to address this nonsense…I am sure most of us hoped this one might when He got elected…yes there will be severe resistance from so many directions…but someone with Real Conviction can garner support from enough citizens…let them see one law for all…this might get the ball rolling.

    If We can not reign in these long standing criminal gangs they are still going to remain a major source of Illegal Gun distribution…which would aid an abet any one who has the funds…If we can not get a lid on this…WE WILL FIND FIGHTING JIHAD MUCH MORE DIFFICULT THAN IT WOULD NEED TO BE.

  30. Jay Boo says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 11:26 pm

    Wake Up America !

    MUSLIMS DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE VICTIMS AND I CAN PROVE IT.

    Muslim controlled BBC describes Obama’s speech as only about:
    1 Islamophobia
    2 Gun control
    3 Misperception of Muslims
    4 Right wing politicians
    5 Commentary added by Ibrahim Cooper

    No mention that Muslim communities should do more to stop the violence.

    Especially — Absolutely no mention about the victims
    — Muslim controlled BBC does wishes to erase their lives in collaboration with Islamic teachings.

    • Jay Boo says

      Dec 6, 2015 at 11:27 pm

      BBC — News from a Muslim’s point of view.

      • Shane says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 10:44 am

        Except for Fox News, most news sources are from a Muslim point of view in the USA. Obama will not tell us the truth that It is war against Islamic jihad! Islamic jihad is the enemy of all non-Muslims and we should work together with Europe, Russia, and China to defeat it. Islamic jihad is an existential threat to Western Civilization.

    • David Scoltock says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 2:20 am

      Don’t blame the BBC, blame your moronic constitution.

      355 mass shootings in America this year, many in schools, almost all by white christians in fact. Killing innocent people is your nation’s national sport. Are you really surprised that a muslim nutter took advantage of your INSANE gun laws to go off on a killing spree?

      • Miao Zedong says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 2:27 am

        Guns do no harm if there is no INTENTION to do harm. I suppose you similarily blame the insane lack of meat cleaver laws for the death by “chop chop” of a service man in London.

        Good job.

        Tell me, have you been thinking lately about the huge number of girls gang raped in Rotherham ? No guns,, just “Asian”. You people have a real problem with “Asians” the rest of the word does not have….

        Just saying..

      • Jura says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 2:59 am

        Does France have a moronic constitution? And Mali, Chad, Nigeria, Kenya,
        Egypt, Syria, Afghanistan,….etc?
        Have you ever noticed, that motivation of a crime is the key point when judging a crime? Politicial motivation and more of that political motivation in accordance with violent political doctrine is the most dangerous of all motivations. It is pure evil, that has to be erradicated.

      • Scott M says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 3:12 am

        That’s harsh. We have muslims doing the same thing here in Australia – and apparently all our guns have been taken off us. There is more to the issue than just saying – take away the guns. These filthy maggots will create havoc irrespective of whatever you do. They need to be eradicated.

        • Macquarie says

          Dec 7, 2015 at 5:00 am

          I’m in agreement with you Scott. The Muslims want a worldwide caliphate & are instructed as per the Koran not to befriend the infidel.
          As an Australian I am appalled by our new Prime Minister singing the praises & achievements of the Islamic religion. Absolutely preaching from the same hymn sheet as Obama. And both love using the term “Daesh.” Hey, let’s not upset the Muslims. Let’s not be Islamophobic..!!
          Freedom of Speech – long gone…

      • habidoll says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 4:09 am

        HLS monitors all mosques in US for radical preaching taken from Koran, Sunna ,& Hadith. which is full of it. They don’t monitor churches for such things. Can U guess why??? Cus its not in the Christian Bible. The crazy comes from outside the church so stop calling crazy murderers Christian.

        • mahatchma says

          Dec 7, 2015 at 2:39 pm

          bear in mind that HLS is reported to be employing 70 plus individuals who are on the terror watch list!

      • Joel Scott says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 4:21 am

        Only a moron would call the ingenious U.S. Constitution moronic.

      • Mr. AR-10 says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 6:57 am

        We all saw the idiotic meme floating around with the thing about how there had been something like three hundred and fifty something mass shootings this year. The only problem? It’s crap. It isn’t the FBI’s definition of that particular crime. They changed the definition to anything where multiple people got shot, so it’s mostly gang violence, drug crime, and even includes things like family murder suicides. Worse, it looks like some of those “mass shootings” never even happened. For my low population, heavily armed, but really low crime state, they list like half a dozen! A friend of mine went through them, found most were regular crimes, and couldn’t even find a single news report about one of the supposed events.

        Even then most of those three hundred “mass shootings” took place in jurisdictions with extremely strict gun control laws, like Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, and Washington DC. They usually happened in cities that haven’t elected a republican in generations. So who gets blamed? People in red states where we own piles of guns and have crime rates similar to Canada. I hate to break it to you but no matter how many restrictions you put on gun ownership in Nebraska, people in Chicago are still going to get shot.

        In reality gun ownership is at an all-time high and violent crime is way down. In a country of three hundred million people we have some mass shootings, but they’re actually very uncommon. However, they get a huge amount of news coverage.

        And San Bernardino? Straight up terrorism. Like dictionary definition terrorism. Like the kind that the prog vultures all railed against George Bush for being so naïve and awful with his “fighting them there rather than here” approach. We certainly ended that imperialistic strategy. So how’s that working out for you now western world? If you think three coordinated, body armor wearing, bomb building, planned in advance, Go-Pro wearing, shooters just suddenly sprung into existence as “workplace violence” because of an argument at a Christmas party, you’re smoking crack.

        • Mike Schau says

          Dec 7, 2015 at 9:23 am

          Very good comments there. Fight the idiots with facts. Yes!

      • Jack Gordon says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 7:47 am

        It’s painfully evident that you depend on outlets like the Guardian, the BBC, the New York Times, and NPR (Nice People’s Radio) for your news. I take it you’re a Brit. If so, your country is awash with Muslims who threaten its very existence thanks to the same kind of “thinking” you evidence here. Your poor little island has devolved from being represented by the likes of Winston Churchill to offering the world pinhead weaklings like Elton John in a mere 50 or 60 years. In another 50 years, you’ll all be carrying prayer rugs around and worshipping the God who hates. What a pathetic band of nancy boys the English have become!

        • Pete says

          Dec 7, 2015 at 12:44 pm

          I grew up in England. I saddens me to admit you’re correct. They’ve been brainwashed. He probably thinks it is “racist” to criticize Islam. They even prosecute people for posting “racist” statements about Islam. How dare ANYONE tell me that I can’t question an ideology. By that standard, the same would have been true in the 1930’s if you questioned Nazi ideology. It would have been “racist” toward the German “race”.

          He doesn’t realize the importance of our Constitution. The irony being that he lives under soft tyranny already, which will only get worse. As the UK government continues to strip peoples’ rights, at some point, he’ll wish he had one.

      • Jon says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 7:50 am

        David you are an idiot. And its people like you who have reduced Great Britain from a champion of the free world to a hotchpotch of mass abortion, drug addiction and moral depravity. You are a Marxist lunatic. Please keep your deranged philosophies to yourself and leave other people’s countries alone, or better yet migrate to the Middle East, since Muslims are evidently so morally superior to the “evil white christians” you can’t stand. You’ll be doing us all a big favour.

      • Pat says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 8:25 am

        When the Redcoats left Yorktown in 1781, they went to Canada and the Royal Fleet maintained HQ in the Caribbean hoping for a quick return when the peasants were disarmed as they were throughout Europe and jolly old England. Well guess what, the peasants became American citizens with Constitutional rights preventing government from disarming them; eat your heart out as the jihadis eat out the hearts of unarmed Europeans, except for the Swiss. Don’t be jealous because of your own weaknesses.

      • Bill says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 8:45 am

        It would be interesting for you to verify your 355 mass shootings this year. It appears that you have been influenced by a false narrative that relies on myths, misrepresentations and falsifying facts.

      • Shane says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 10:41 am

        Our constitution is not the cause of Muslim terrorism, the Koran is responsible for that. You cowardly Europeans are afraid to say that we are at war against Islamic jihad! We need our weapons to protect us from the jihadis and the criminals. Cowardly Europeans do nothing to defend their countries from the jihad.

      • Shane says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 10:47 am

        You lie about the mass shootings being done by mostly White Christians. There are plenty of shootings by Muslims, Black gang members, drug cartels, Hispanic criminals, and non-Christian Whites. Only a far left, America-hating douche bag would spread such filthy lies.

        In the USA, most people are Christiains so it is only natural that most mass shootings would be done by Christians rather than by Islamic jihadis. The jihadis have killed many more Americans than anti-abortion nuts, considering Muslims killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11.

  31. Matthieu Baudin says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 11:35 pm

    The President seems to lack any motivation to look objectively at traditional Islam. Until that is undertaken counter terrorism policy will remain confused and ineffectual.

    • mortimer says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 2:04 am

      There may be more young Muslims that want to join ISIS than those who want to join the American armed forces.

      • Pat says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 8:30 am

        that is a statistic we do not see; how many Muslims or native Arabic speakers, Somali speakers, Farsi speakers are joining the military or the IC-intelligence community. Bottom line, not enough as the “refugee” immigrant population who are Muslims are fence sitting and economically benefitting from the safe environment here without returning much of anything to the American culture; no requirements to assimilate or support or defend the public good of this Infidel nation.

    • mortimer says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 2:08 am

      MB wrote: “The President seems to lack any motivation to look objectively at traditional Islam.”

      Exactly. Obama refuses to read the Sira, hadiths and Koran to learn what Islam teaches.

      PLEASE NOTE: Thomas Jefferson purchased and read and LEARNED the Islamic doctrines from the Koran…Obama has not been responsible enough to do the necessary reading to understand normative Islam’s supremacism and warfare against disbelievers.

      • Michael Copeland says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 5:40 am

        Alternatively he does know, and is deliberately obfuscating the reality.

        • Laura says

          Dec 7, 2015 at 10:20 am

          Michael – this is also my opinion. According to reports, O sat in a madrassa in Indonesia. Hard to believe he never read their scriptures!

        • dlbrand says

          Dec 7, 2015 at 12:43 pm

          Michael Copeland said: “Alternatively he does know, and is deliberately obfuscating the reality.”

          Indeed. The realities and facts on Islam are much too common, all to easily accessible and provable.

  32. Custos Custodum says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 1:03 am

    It is our responsibility to reject religious tests on who we admit into this country.

    Yet another one of Barry’s trademarked pseudo-logical misdirections.

    Our constitution prohibits “religious tests” as a qualification for public office..

    America as a country certainly has the right to impose religious restrictions on would-be immigrants to ensure that they are law-abiding and reasonably likely to assimilate. Similarly, Congress can impose numerical limits, educational eligibility conditions, procedural requirements (e.g. applicant must stay in third country until cleared), etc.

    Foreigners seeking admission to the U.S. have NO constitutional rights themselves. If Americans decide to admit for immigration each year, e.g. only 100 naturally blonde 5′ 5″ Hindu women with tap-dancing skills, no other applicants have “standing” to object.

    • mortimer says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 1:23 am

      Agreeing with CC: Moreover, Obama is wrong. IT IS THE TIME to impose a LIE DETECTOR TEST on all applicants, especially IF THEY ARE MUSLIM.

      Furthermore, most of the ‘homegrown’ jihadists who grew up in Western countries have come from MODERATE Muslim families. In other ways, the youth REBEL against their moderate parents and SHOW THEM how to be REAL MUSLIMS!

      When Muslims turn 19, they are ripe to be jihadists.

    • james collins says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 10:26 am

      see Public Law 414, pg. 85 http://www.bu.edu/lawlibrary/PDFs/research/portals/66stat163.pdf

  33. Diane Mullen says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 1:14 am

    I am repeating this from another blogger:
    Islam, by law, is prohibited from US immigration. The Immigration and Nationality Act passed June 27, 1952 revised the laws relating to immigration, naturalization, and nationality for the United States. That act, which became Public Law 414, established both the law and the intent of Congress regarding the immigration of Aliens to the US and remains in effect today. Among the many issues it covers, one in particular, found in Chapter 2 Section 212, is the prohibition of entry to the US if the Alien belongs to an organization seeking to overthrow the government of the United States by “force, violence, or other unconstitutional means.” This, by its very definition, rules out Islamic immigration to the United States, but this law is being ignored by the White House.Islamic immigration to the US would be prohibited under this law because the Koran, Sharia Law and the Hadith all require complete submission to Islam, which is antithetical prohibited The US government, the Constitution, and to the Republic. All Muslims who attest that the Koran is their life’s guiding principal subscribe to submission to Islam and its form of government. Now the political correct crowd would say that Islamists cannot be prohibited from entering the US because Islam is a religion. Whether it is a religion is immaterial because the law states that Aliens who are affiliated with any “organization” that advocates the overthrow of our government are prohibited.

    • mortimer says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 2:19 am

      Agreeing with Diane Mullen. Islam is per se a cult of conspiracy and governmental overthrow. Any practicing Muslim is in favor of implementing Sharia above the US Constitution. This is an overthrow of the Constitution by stealth or by warfare, making practicing Muslims ineligible for entry!

      They must be given lie detector tests to determine whether or not they want to establish Sharia above the US constitution! Most Muslims would fail that test.

    • Miao Zedong says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 2:30 am

      Hussein Barrack O. might act on his own, by his own will. I’m willing to credit him that much competence. His actions however consistently betray him as an anti-Western* agent of Saudi Arabia.

    • Jan Aage Jeppesen says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 4:18 am

      The immigration statues you refer to only rules out admitting Muslims belonging to a muslim sect or organization trying to achieve their goal of replacing the Constitution by Sharia Law by “force, violence, or other unconstitutional means.” In practise that is all Islamic organizations designated as terrorist groups.

      The problem is that not all Islamist or Salafist groups advocate violence to achieve their goals. Notably the oldest and largest group – The Muslim Brotherhood – use the “Hitler strategy” trying to gain power through democratic elections. As they with succes did in Egypt. Had the military not made a coup the etat Egypt would have been the first Islamic state with a democratic elected government on track to become a califate.

      Another problem is how do the government prove that an individual belongs to a terrorist organization before letting him into the country? It is practically impossible if he has never been suspected of terror or criminal activities and never in public expressed sympathy for such organizations. Formal membership are not used by terror organizations for obvious reasons.

      Freedom of religion exclude the possibility of designating Islam as such as a religious group trying to achieve its political/religious goal by means of violence. It does not matter that the holy texts of Islam contains obligations to use terror and violence against non-Muslims for so does many other religions like Judaism and Christianity. It is irrelevant what you believe, the only thing that counts is how you acts. As President Eisenhower said in 1952: “In other words, our form of government has no sense unless it is founded in a deeply felt religious faith, and I don’t care what it is.”

      • Michael Copeland says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 5:55 am

        No, the restriction is not limited to force or violent means: it includes “other unconstitutional means”. These are “civil disobedience” methods such as enforcing Sharia, forced marriage, child marriage, genital mutilation, daughter-killing, threats to police and service personnel, blocking the highway, contempt of court by refusing to remove face-covering or refusing to stand. There are any number of unconstitutional actions deliberately enforced in Islam which are not hypothetical: they are ALREADY HAPPENING.

        • Jan Aage Jeppesen says

          Dec 7, 2015 at 9:30 am

          Your arguments are pure nonsense. How can Muslim asylum seekers before being admitted to the US have committed the subversive acts against the Constitution or violated the penal code in the areas you suggest?

          You can suspect that some of them will violate the Law in the areas you suggest just as you may suspect a Mormon asylum seeker to practice polygamy, which is unconstitutional, if admitted to the country.

          You cannot refuse asylum seekers on purely hypothetical grounds regarding what they might do and have not done. That is in itself not constitutional when religious freedom is guaranteed.

        • Michael Copeland says

          Dec 8, 2015 at 9:57 am

          The Ummah of Islam is an “organisation”.

  34. mortimer says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 1:17 am

    Obama claimed: “ISIL does not speak for Islam.” Not according to the university professors of Caliph al-Baghdadi! So who’s right, Islamic professors? Or Obama who hasn’t read Islam’s source texts?

    The professors of Caliph al-Baghdadi say he is SUPERBLY ISLAMIC!

    Caliph Abu Bakr Al Baghdadi, who is the ISIS chief and the caliph of the Islamic State, is the first Islamic Studies PhD from a Muslim background who has no idea about Islam.

    Al-Baghdadi, who has obtained BA, MA and PhD degrees in Islamic studies from the Islamic University in Baghdad, has been condemned as a person who knows nothing about Islam, and as the head of an organization that has nothing to do with Islam.

    The professors from the Islamic University of Baghdad, however, do not agree. They taught the caliph and believe his credentials and doctrines are sound.

    “If a person who has a PhD in Islamic studies and does nothing but study the Islamic scriptures knows nothing about Islam, then who does?” questioned al-Baghdadi’s main teacher from the Islamic University, preferring to remain anonymous since the fatwa against ISIS and its chief puts his reputation into jeopardy.

    “The wine-sipping Muslims, those hedonistic adulterers will tell the world what true Islam is? Obama and Cameron know more about Islam than the faculty of Islamic studies at the Islamic University in Baghdad?” the professor bellowed with rage, while talking to a journalist.

    Another professor who had taught al-Baghdadi in BA said off the record that the Isis caliph was an ardent student.

    “He had this obsession with Islamic studies. I used to tell him to go out and have some fun sometimes. But his idea of fun wasn’t too human friendly,” the professor said. “In any case he was a top student. One of the best I’ve ever had. Had the entire syllabus on his finger tips – to be honest, he knew more about Islamic studies than most of the professors.”

  35. Deep Throat says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 1:19 am

    An internal White House memo was anonymously leaked by a highly-placed White House source. Here is the memo in full.


    FROM: CONTROL

    TO: BHO

    Barry,

    Told you they would make a mess of the San Bernardino op.

    We must NOT let this set-back get in the way of Operation 3M (Mass Muslim Migration).

    You are going on Television Sunday to dissipate the impact of SB and buy time for 3M. I have booked you on the show. Gina’s team is working on your speech.

    We need you in good shape on Sunday. NO BLOW until then.

    XX

    • ECAW says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 3:35 am

      Excellent! hahahahahahaha………..

  36. Miao Zedong says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 1:46 am

    “Moreover, the vast majority of terrorist victims around the world are Muslim.” in Bill Warners words “islam is bad for non-muslims and worse for muslims”.

    Muslims seem to overlook that the more islamic a society becomes the wors they fare as well. Anyway, hisotrically they never managed to see islam for what it is and I don’t see it as my duty to explain them what’s best for them.

    The only thing I care is what’s best for me.

    • Pig Jizya says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 3:30 am

      Good Point. How does saying ” the vast majority of terrorist victims around the world are Muslim” get them off the hook in any way???

      If an extremely dangerous animal is a cannibal, does that make him any less dangerous to me? That just shows how even more monstrous he is.

      So quit using that excuse, moron liberal Muslim apologists (like Obama).

  37. mortimer says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 1:54 am

    Obama’s numbers are wrong. I practically every country, 15% or so of Muslims support what the West designates as ‘terrorism’ and the Muslims themselves designate as ‘JIHAD’.

    In other words, Muslims call ‘jihad’ what we call ‘terrorism’. Jihad is ‘good’ to a Muslim. Muslims believe only non-Muslims can be ‘terrorists’.

    It isn’t ‘terrorism’ when Muslims do it…so the US is a terrorist state when it fights Muslims…that’s the mainstream Muslim point of view.

  38. ? says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 2:02 am

    “Talk is cheap”…

  39. John Johness says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 2:07 am

    “A new phase” – an interesting comment from Obama. By using the term ‘Phase’ he is allowing himself a way out. During this ‘phase’ he is going to do something, because the last ‘phase’ was so different.
    The Islamists actually don’t have any ‘phases’ or even – yes – “paradigms” ( I am awaiting that one)- they have the truth, God and a well known methodology used for 1400 years.
    I just love this management gobbledygook – let’s get a few management consultants from Harvard or BCG – we can get a few quadrants onto it by using “drawn and quartered”.
    This is more that a circus, it is King Lear without any fool to tell Obama what is happening.

    • mortimer says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 2:32 am

      Must disagree about ‘phase’. Islam has ‘phases’ in the essential doctrine of Jihad-and-Hegira.

      Islam swings between Jihad (violent Islam) to Hegira (peaceful), and then back in an endless cycle. Peaceful Islam is a phase of preparation for violent jihad.

      Hegira is emigration to new lands where the jihad renews itself when the population is somnolent to jihad. Then Muslims make their violent move to take over and subjugate the host peoples under Sharia law.

      • John Johness says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 3:01 am

        Thank you – some discussion. It is hard to find anywhere around the world. So please tell me more if these two phases in Islam – is there a reference where I can read more. it is the first I have heard of it. Particularly with dates and philosophy, if you have the time.

        Interesting – it is a break to prepare ( I am of course aware of hajer)

  40. Pig Jizya says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 2:51 am

    First of all: I don’t care what “ISIL wants”. The goal is to crush Islamic violence, not to “NOT do what ISIL wants — that is retarded. Obama is trying to control what we do by saying “ISIL wants you to do it”. If it is good to do, do it irrespective what the f**k ISIL wants. NOT giving Muslims special treatment is GOOD to do.

    Secondly at the end I was expecting Obama to say “Allah bless Muslims” instead “God bless the United States of America”.

  41. Westman says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 3:05 am

    Does anyone get tired of hearing that Islam must be great because there are 1.6 Billion Muslims?

    Most people are aware that Muslim apostacy means death in any country or circumstance in which Muslims are allowed to administer it and that Muslim children say the Shahada before they are responsible to make such a choice.

    One should be asking the question of why, in about 22 generations, there are only 1.6 Billion Muslims when it’s like the Hotel California; you can check in any time you like, but you can never leave. Only achieving 23% of the world population in 22 generations, mostly by coercion, threats, and the control of women, does not engender admiration in Infidels who know Islamic Doctrine.

    Because Islam allows barbaric actions against Infidels that are perceived to be at war with Islam, and there is no definition of what exactly what constitutes Dar Al-Harb that has universal agreement, we are in fact at war with a branch of Islam no matter what a politician or celebrity claims, falsely or in ignorance. Daesh is Islamic.

  42. alamo47 says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 4:52 am

    Again the US president defends the muslim terrorists.

    Let’s get real here –

    To win a war one must identify who the enemy is.

    The enemy is not IS, ISIS, ISIL, Daesch, alQuaeda or whatever our so-called intellegient leaders tell us.

    THE ENMY IS ISLAM.

    Until they get it right nothing can be done to defeat the enemy.

    • dlbrand says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 12:57 pm

      alamo47 said: “The enemy is not IS, ISIS, ISIL, Daesch, alQuaeda or whatever our so-called intellegient leaders tell us.

      THE ENMY IS ISLAM.

      Until they get it right nothing can be done to defeat the enemy.”

      Indeed.

  43. chrissie01 says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 5:07 am

    Mr. Obama, you can define this fight any way you want.

    The other side has already defined it as ‘Jihad’ which means every strategem of war until all resistance ceases.
    Now what you’re gonna do? Are we at war?

    • Michael Copeland says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 6:15 am

      Obama already, treasonably, answered the question, when he said (with an extra special intense solemnity):
      “The United States is not, and never will be, at war with Islam”

      • chrissie01 says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 7:36 am

        Meaning: Submission has already been scheduled.
        Oslama is a Muslim-in-the-closet

  44. Judi says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 5:25 am

    I could only bear to listen to the first 5 minutes of what this Liar-in-Chief had to say. When I hear him say they are working closely with Turkey to seal the borders, etc. who is he kidding? He is in cahoots with Erdogan, another traitor. His country is treating wounded Isil jihadis, America is dropping bottled water to them on the battlefield and it has been proven by Russia that hundreds of trucks, laden with oil, driven by Isil, are crossing into Turkey daily.

    The US military could have all but destroyed Isil by now but they have been held back by this Traitor. It has been left up to Russia to do the “dirty work” and they have accomplished more in a couple of weeks than the US has done in months!

  45. bill muldoon says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 5:28 am

    For God’s sake, and for our infidel survival, PUT THE KORAN ON TRIAL.
    Stop with all this nonsense.
    Will there ever be ONE MSM journalist with the ballz to question Obama, Cameron and their ilk, about the violent Suras in the koran?

  46. Salome says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 5:28 am

    There are no doubt thousands of loyal Americans of Muslim background–but that’s because they are only nominally Muslim. To paraphrase a line of CS Lewis that I was only recently reminded of–they’ve been inoculated with such a weak dose of Islam that it prevents their ever getting the real thing. At least we hope so–because if one decides to get ‘the real thing’, then the guilt at the former nominalist way of life will probably leave only one ‘honourable’ way out. Bad Muslims, however, can make good Americans, Australians, or whatever. But they’ll never become school religion teachers or imams or anyone that has any authority over matters of religion in the Muslim community.

    • dlbrand says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 1:14 pm

      It is past high-time those so-called “only nominally Muslim” muster some courage–be Muslim or be apostates of Islam.

      I reject, categorically, the doctrines Muhammad brought. So do countless others.

      Muslims either embrace and support the doctrine, practices, examples of their so-called prophet, or they reject them. Are apostates of Islam and no Muslim.

      There is no in-between. No third option.

  47. Lloyd Miller says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 5:44 am

    What Hilary and Barack say is limited, if not determined, by their Saudi sponsors. Same for many RINOs. When does Jihad Watch start disseminating THIS truth!?

  48. Gary says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 6:18 am

    Once again, Obama is listening to, and spouting what his father teaches him.

    “ISIL does not speak for Islam. They are thugs and killers, part of a cult of death.”

    Another lie which the father of all lies would have American’s believe.

    ISIL IS and DOES speak for Islam. And, Islam is a cult of death.

    Jesus stated I came to give you life, and life more abundant. Islam only sees Jesus as “a prophet”.

    Muslims revere Mohammad “The Prophet” above Christ Jesus, and thus experience death.

  49. K. says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 6:28 am

    “We can’t…” ? Well kiddo, Islam can. And it does. America and the West is a well defined enemy of Islam and they spurt it out on every occasion, on the streets and in the highest government offices. I’m beginning to believe that a leftist really doesn’t see what he doesn’t want to see. Seriously, how dumb can someone be? This is sheer insanity.

  50. Kasey says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 7:02 am

    If ever there was a time for Obama to find out what Islam is all about it is now. A good start of him would be to read.

    The Real Consequences of Islamic Indoctrination, Mind-Set and Logic, with 24 Items for Discussion and Debate.by Ibn Wirriq

    With the ISIS caliphate jihadists re-enacting most of the 7th Century activities of Muhammed during his conquests in Arabia now in the 21st Century, [mainly initiated as a result of the violent Sunni-Shi’a divide and the Syrian civil war], such actions could only come from indoctrinated beliefs which have formatted the minds of all ISIS jihadists and their tacit supporters. Other groups also gain their attitudes for violent jihad action to establish Islamic supremacy over all non-Muslims around the World from such indoctrination. That is the reality of the World situation today.

    This critical evaluation does not arise from attitudes of “Islamophobia,” but develops from the evidence of what can only be termed “Islamoreality” in all its forms, which in fact means, like it or not, that “Islam Is As Islam Does.” The World needs to be aware of this as a fact! The 57 nations of the OIC also need to be aware of the truth of this assessment and stop their continued state of denial and demands for severe penalties for any negative comments or criticism of Islam and blasphemy and do need to seriously consider and enact an Islamic Reformation.

    A segment from Egyptian President al-Sisi’s New Year statement on “Thinking” displays this need: “Is it possible that 1.6 billion people [Muslims] should want to kill the rest of the world’s inhabitants—that is 7 billion—so that they themselves may live? Impossible!” Maybe that statement in its full context will just be the catalyst to start an effective call for that Islamic Reformation World-wide? [Note: al-Sisi says “Impossible!” yet he could have added “and Immoral” for greater effect?] And Turkish President R T Erdogan recently stated “There is No Moderate Islam-Islam is Islam! “This again indicates that “Islam is As Islam Does” by default. With the current discrimination of and purging of non-Muslims, particularly Jews and Christians. in so many Islamically-dominated nations in Africa, the Middle-East and parts of Asia, and the continued influx of Islamic refugee migrants to most Western nations, the struggle to preserve Western civilization will increase and continue as those migrant numbers and their descendants increase, with the potential to create “an enemy within” despite the many denials. [ taqiyya” in action again?]

    Thus the 24 items below do have real significance for all peoples of the World and need positive resolution for both Muslims and all non-Muslims. Addressing the need to halt the drive towards Islamism around the World and the continued radicalization of its youth via its current content,nature and methods of indoctrination, especially from the internet, may be confronting and difficult for many Muslims to support an urgent reformation of all Islamic ideology. Yet the items listed must be presented openly for consideration no matter how distasteful they may seem to most Muslims. [and to many Western “politically correct” politicians and others] Some contentions apply directly to different Islamic holy books and texts, while some others espouse humanitarian understanding of the contemporary impasse in the light of known Islamic doctrines, directives and ideology.

    These following 24 ideas in distilled capsule form are proposed as the foundation for a critical analysis of Islam in the modern World today.

    1 A comparison between the Meccan verses and the abrogating Medina verses of the Koran and its consequences.

    2. The nature and content of Islamic indoctrination and the basis of jihadism.

    3. The origins, nature and extent of Jew hatred by Islamists and all their tacit supporters as well as by Muslims in general.

    4. Discriminatory and lethal Koranic directives against all non-Muslims.[as per the claimed direct words of the Muslim god, Allah]

    5. Assessment of positive and negative aspects of Muhammed’s life and its implications for the World.

    6. Validity of the Miracles claimed in the Koran.

    7. Personification of Allah and the alleged communications with Muhammed and the roles of angels and jinns.

    8. Pinpointing and reflection upon all the contradictory verses found in The Koran and their implications

    9. The implications of taqiyya and abrogation of Koranic verses on Islamic youth, both male and female and its converts.

    APPEASEMENT and its CONSEQUENCES for Western societies.

    10. Wahhabiism and Salifism and their implications and the role of Saudi Arabian finance promoting Islam in the World.

    11. The need for World-wide halal certification and its revenue bases and all its financial implications for Western Civilization and possible Islamic indirect control of most of the World’s secondary food production.

    12. Exposure of FGM, honour killings and arranged child marriages, apostacy, and ALL their effects on Humanity in ways comprehensible for Everyperson.

    13. The issue of Islamic dress in Western nations, its motivation and implications for all women and Western society.

    14. The status of non-Muslims in Islamic majority nations and implications of dhimmitude and jizya for them.

    15. The validity of the concept of martyrdom as it is presented in popular jihadist fare, embracing the image of the 72 virgins held out as a carrot for male jihadists — surely an act of deception? The fate of innocents killed by jihadists.

    16. Sharia law and its effects for Islamic women in general, and its attempted introduction to Western nations by an aggressive refugee minority who “fled” from Islamic discrimination or violence in their home nation. Thus, in effect an assessment of Islam as a “totalitarian ideology” rather than a strict religion. This survey should embrace a study of the Islamic migrants’ dependency on Western welfare systems and the exposure of their double standards in this sphere.

    17. The claim of “No compulsion in religion” quotes in the Koran and follow-up statements to such quotes.

    18. Implications of Muhammed’s directives and blasphemy related to his name. The validity of Fatwas and the legalities of revenge within Islam.

    19 The implications of the Sunni-Shi’a divide and its lethal violence, and the implications of Islamic refugee migration on the Western societies.

    20. A critical review of all Monotheistic beliefs and their validity right back to Abraham. And a pursuit of the proposition that religion in general has no monopoly on ethics and morality as seen from an Islamic perspective.

    21. An emphasis on tolerance of all other religions, while yet pressing the contention that that ALL can’t be right and that ALL might just be wrong….. while pressing the argument that Islam is an ideology rather than as a basic religion.

    22. Emphasizing the virtue of human rights in general and the human right of every person be free to choose any religion or be of no religion at all.

    23. Islam’s claim of superiority and all others being of inferiority….quotes to that effect in the Koran.[and there are many] And the claim that Islam, as the direct word of Allah, is above comment, criticism or change and is eternal in nature, and the very real implications of that claim.

    24. Indoctrinated beliefs and choices related to chances of birth to family, ethnicity and nationality and religious or ideological identity and indoctrination, and how this affects the Islamic attitudes, mind-set and logic. Ego identification with particular doctrines and its consequences.

    All the points above can certainly be developed into fuller items for analysis, discussion and debate in order to generate a positive set of changes within Islam in the World today so as to secure a humanitarian resolution of the series of crisis we face NOW.

    [An item from Thuppahi’s blog]

  51. James Foard says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 7:13 am

    Obamalogic:
    “Moreover, the vast majority of terrorist victims around the world are Muslim.”
    “Sure, he blew away that nice couple down the street, but after all, he also killed his wife, his mother-in-law, his grandma, his sister, his two kids and his dog. So you see? The majority of his victims were all members of his own household. So he wasn’t such a threat to his neighbors after all.”

  52. keith says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 7:37 am

    Hey..!! … that killer in San Bernadino was also a friend, neighbor and co-worker… how did that work out..?!! … and who is a Muslim sports hero, Mr Prez… Tom Brady..?! You’ll say absolutely anything in support of those diseased rodents..!!

  53. jura says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 7:43 am

    Dont you Americans have an impechment tool for such cases like your contemporary president?

  54. Jaladhi says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 7:54 am

    What part of “Islam has has declared war on humanity for last 1400 years” you don’t understand that you keep saying “We can’t let “this fight be defined as a war between America and Islam”. Really Sherlock, you can’t see the elephant inthe room and want us to believe you!!

    Transfer this analogy to Japan and Pearl Harbor on this day and see how many Americans believe you??

  55. Christopher Farrell says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 7:58 am

    https://www.scribd.com/doc/292456319/What-Sect-Of-Islam-Do-The-Moderate-Muslims-Belong-To-Mr-Trump.

  56. don says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 8:21 am

    50% of muslims in the US want Sharia law over our constitution. That’s not patriotic.

    • dlbrand says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 1:35 pm

      Qualifying the Believer:

      “Takhayyur: Need for the Modern Islamic Society

      Takhayyur literally means choice. In the language of fiqh, it means liberty of an individual Muslim to be governed by the law of any of the four schools of Islamic jurisprudence.”

      “… in all these … there should not be allowed any departure from the spirit of the teachings of the Qur’an and the Sunnah.”

      “ … mere change and departure from the Qur’an and Sunnah in order to import French, English, or Italian law … will amount to disbelief.”

      “And if any fail to judge by the light of what Allah has revealed, they are no better than unbelievers.” Qur’an 5:47

      ( Shariah: The Islamic Law, ‘Abdur Rahman I. Doi, Ta Ha Publishers LTD, London, UK, 1984/ 1404, Reprint 1997 pp. 470,471, 466 respectively.)

      “O you who believe! Make not (a decision) in advance before Allah and His Messenger,” meaning, do not rush in making decisions before him, rather, follow his lead in all matters. Ali bin Abi Talhah reported that ibn Abbas, may Allah be pleased with him, commented; “Make not (a decision) in advance before Allah and His Messenger,” [means], “Do not say anything that contradicts the Qur’an and the Sunnah.” (Tafsir, Ibn Kathir, on Surah 49: 1-3; Vol. 9, p. 185.)

      Narrated Anas bin Malik, Allah’s Messenger said, “You should listen to and obey your Imam (Muslim ruler) even if he was an Ethiopian (black) slave whose head looks like a raisin.”

      Narrated Ibn Abbas, “…whoever disunite [sic] from Al-Jama ‘ah (the Muslim group) [i.e. becomes separate from the Muslim group] even for a span and then dies, he will die as those who died in the Pre-Islamic Period of Ignorance (as rebellious sinners).” (Fath Al-Bari]

      (Sahih Al-Bukhari, Translated by: Dr. Muhammad Muhsin Khan, Darussalam, Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, 1997, Vol. 9, The Book of Al-Ahkam (Judgments) p. 162, #7142, 7143.)

      That is Islam.

  57. Bill says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 8:40 am

    Mosab Hassan Yousef, Son of Hamas, understands Islam very well. All Western minds need to listen to Christian who was once a Muslim in order to know the truth of what Islam really represents. Here’s two quotes from him that counter Barry’s propaganda about Islam.

    “Islam is not a religion of peace. Islam is a religion of war, and most Muslims don’t understand the true nature of Islam.”

    “The biggest terrorist is the God of the Quran. I know this is very dangerous and this will offend many people. The more you follow the steps of the prophet of Islam and the God of Islam, the more you get close to being a terrorist.”

  58. Jeffrey Brueningsen says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 9:23 am

    Hmmm? What a difference between December 7th, 1941 and December 7th, 2015. Can anyone imagine FDR telling Congress, America, and the world, We can’t let “this fight be defined as a war between America and Japan/Germany” ? Then announce he’s going to import 100,000 Japanese/German’s because… 99.9% of them are nice”. December 6, 2015, Obama, Oval Office, another date that will ” live in infamy”.

  59. Gamaliel says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 10:10 am

    Islam is like a forest that hasn’t burned for years and is full of kindling. it can be full of trees that aren’t burning but they could catch fire at any time. Obama can claim that there are Muslims who aren’t terrorists but that doesn’t mean that they won’t become terrorists. Almost all the terrorists in the West are described as nice people and no one expected them to commit murder but they did.

  60. dragaozao says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 10:50 am

    Years of consistent failure, caused mistrust in American leadership all around the western world. Any time an american university prevents any islam critic to freely talk, any time someone like Hillary refueses to call the enemy by its name, any time the pc police has the final word, how can we believe in american or western strategy? I think the american moment has passesd. In Europe, far right began already its way towards power. And it was the left and its fantasy world who gave them the stage.

  61. tweedleDee says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 11:29 am

    When we hear of Muslims turning out those of their ranks who would kill the Kafir, come on back and we’ll chat.

    Until then, if you don’t like Western Civilization, you’ll need to GTFO

  62. Joe Claborn says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 11:30 am

    The bottom line is that the belief put forth by the Koran and the Hadith calls for conversion or destruction of infidels (Christians or muslims who are not “muslim enough”). Not all muslims may act upon the command, but the belief is there–just like Christians believe that Jesus is the son of God. This explains why they fail to speak out against the extremists. Read the history of Muhammad and the spread of Islam–mostly done by force. This led to the Crusades.

  63. David D says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 11:44 am

    And what shall we do when the “peaceful”, “mutually respectful”, “equal rights for all under the law (including freedom of religion and speech)” Muslims fail to cooperate to reign in their co-religionists? Shall we just give up?
    Or shall we protect our freedoms by taking whatever steps “as necessary” to neutralize those who engage in jihad war in order to dominate western society? That includes neutralizing those who refuse to disassociate themselves from the very same ideology of the so-called ‘wayward” hijackers of Islam? You know, the good Germans, i.e. the ones who did nothing to stop evil – they just sat by and let it happen.

    • David Scoltock says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 4:44 pm

      Your rhetoric is very German, just the kind of language that came out of the mouths of national socialists

      • Oliver says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 6:15 pm

        David- do you prefer the current course of DOING NOTHING-including monitoring the mosques (done in SA, Kuwait and one or more Gulf states)?

        And have a 5th column against us?

        How many more have to be killed by these scum?

    • dajjal says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 7:18 pm

      Not all Krauts were Nazis but all Musims are Muslims, obligated by Satan to attack or support the attackers. Not all Muslims are Beloievers, but enough are to cause the deaths of 270*10^6 since 623.

      There is no solution that includes Muslims. There can be no peace while they infest the earth.

  64. dlbrand says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 12:17 pm

    Words and performance of, with respect to Islam and the adherents to it, a foundering fool, an inept idiot, a treacherous traitor.

  65. Michael says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 12:18 pm

    I would rather stick red hot pokers in my eyes than listen to this politically correct leftist jargon!

    • dlbrand says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 12:23 pm

      Michael said: “I would rather stick red hot pokers in my eyes than listen to this politically correct leftist jargon!”

      I hear ya.

      Mr. Obama and friends shit down our backs telling us it is chocolate–but the stench of their work and words is repulsive.

      • dajjal says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 6:44 pm

        His voice had a different timbre last night. I suspect it was affected by a combination of fear and desperation. I had to listen to the shitspew ‘cuz I planned to dissect it in a blog post. I blew the whole night on it and nobody read it. Damn good thing Lynch did not read it 😉

        • dlbrand says

          Dec 7, 2015 at 9:51 pm

          dajjal said: “His voice had a different timbre last night….”

          Indeed, noted it, so too his more strained and discolored countenance.

    • John Stefan Obeda says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 2:01 pm

      Michael, you’re eyes are worth much more than Obama. I too dislike to listen to him; one or two sentences and I start getting upset. I pray to God that He will have mercy on my beloved country and bless the people to vote him out and bless the next president to undue the harm that he has done. Raymond Ibrahim largely blames the education of the Americans in the past decades that have caused the Democrats to vote the traitor into office even the second time.

      • abad says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 6:11 pm

        Obama makes my blood pressure go up.

        And.

        His post-presidential career is not going to be all roses, giving lectures nor writing books, either.

        In fact, I’d be very surprised if he remains on USA soil very long if you know what I mean.

  66. dlbrand says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 12:18 pm

    “Floundering fool,” that is.

  67. Angemon says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 1:03 pm

    …Here’s what else we cannot do. We cannot turn against one another by letting this fight be defined as a war between America and Islam. That, too, is what groups like ISIL want.

    It’s not what they “want”, it’s how they see it and what drives them on. You can avoid the truth but you can’t avoid the consequences of avoiding the truth.

    ISIL does not speak for Islam.

    They claim they do. They base their actions in islamic orthodoxy and history. Their caliph has a degree in islamic studies. What are your credentials, sheik Hussein?

    They are thugs and killers, part of a cult of death.

    You mean, orthodox muslims. The Thuggee were thugs and killers, the islamic state is acting upon islamic orthodoxy.

    And they account for a tiny fraction of a more than a billion Muslims around the world, including millions of patriotic Muslim-Americans who reject their hateful ideology.

    Not according to polls.

    Moreover, the vast majority of terrorist victims around the world are Muslim.

    Not according to the islamic state – their allegedly muslim victims are apostates and hypocrites, people who call themselves muslims but refuse to live according to what their religion orders them to.

    If we’re to succeed in defeating terrorism, we must enlist Muslim communities as some of our strongest allies, rather than push them away through suspicion and hate.

    Can you ensure beyond any reasonable doubt that they they reject the islamic state as being islamic? If not, it’s like relying on German Nazis in the US to fight against Nazi Germany in Europe.

    That does not mean denying the fact that an extremist ideology has spread within some Muslim communities. It’s a real problem that Muslims must confront without excuse.

    Ah, so you can’t tell which muslims support ISIS. There goes your plan…

    Muslim leaders here and around the globe have to continue working with us to decisively and unequivocally reject the hateful ideology that groups like ISIL and Al Qaeda promote, to speak out against not just acts of violence, but also those interpretations of Islam that are incompatible with the values of religious tolerance, mutual respect, and human dignity.

    Some of them may condemn the acts of violence, but which mainstream sect teaches any different? Which muslim leaders in the West are preaching a version of islam that reject ISIS’ atrocities on the grounds of human dignity and the equality of all before the law? Few to none, I bet, because leaders who preach that do so at the risk of their lives – and it’s not male white straight Protestant people threating them…

    But just as it is the responsibility of Muslims around the world to root out misguided ideas that lead to radicalization

    See above.

    it is the responsibility of all Americans, of every faith, to reject discrimination.

    Most Americans do.

    It is our responsibility to reject religious tests on who we admit into this country.

    Huh, why?

    It’s our responsibility to reject proposals that Muslim-Americans should somehow be treated differently.

    I second that – time to end prayer breaks and lawsuits against companies who let muslim workers go because they refuse to do the job they were hired to do.

    See how that works, sheik Hussein? You can’t have it both ways.

    Because when we travel down that road, we lose. That kind of divisiveness, that betrayal of our values plays into the hands of groups like ISIL.

    Basically, trying to stay safe from ISIS plays right into the hands of ISIS – insane troll logic at its finest.

    Muslim-Americans are our friends and our neighbors, our co- workers, our sports heroes.

    Like the San Bernardino shooter.

    And, yes, they are our men and women in uniform who are willing to die in defense of our country. We have to remember that….

    Does that excludes them from any scrutiny?

    • dajjal says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 7:37 pm

      Your excellent comment would nicely complement my own takedownof the camel feces. Please repost it at Islam Exposed.

  68. Carolyne says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    “We can’t let this fight be defined as a war between America and Islam.”

    Oh yeah? Why can’t we? Because Obama says so? Ffffft

    • Peggy says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 11:44 pm

      Tell that to ISIL.

      • Peggy says

        Dec 7, 2015 at 11:47 pm

        “We can’t let this fight be defined as a war between America and Islam.”

        I should have included this line first. Without it, it looks like I am answering Carolyne. I was just adding to Carolyn’s comment.

  69. Frank says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 1:50 pm

    The war already is between Islam and the West including America. The only people who don’t seem to understand this is the American (And European) left. But don’t let the Attorney General hear you say that. It might be too ‘edgy.’

  70. jura says

    Dec 7, 2015 at 3:38 pm

    http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/5199.htm

    • dlbrand says

      Dec 7, 2015 at 3:58 pm

      Transcript to the above jura provided clip:

      December 5, 2015 Clip No. 5199

      Egyptian TV Host on California Terror Attack: Americans Should Stick Obama on an Impalement Rod

      Egyptian TV host Ahmed Moussa said, in response to the December 2 San Bernardino terror attack, that he suspected that U.S. President Obama was “connected to the terrorists who carried out the attack,” and added: “They should take Obama and stick him on an impalement rod. This is what they would do in a respectful country.”

      Following are excerpts from Moussa’s address, which aired on the Egyptian Sada Al-Balad TV channel on December 5, 2015.

      Ahmad Moussa: You should beware not to raise a lion, or it will devour you. You should never think that… It was America that raised and funded terrorism. We’ve said to them a hundred times, a million times, and we are still saying: America will pay the price in a way it cannot even imagine. Obama the liar, the ally of the terrorists… I call him a liar. He’s a liar! He is the ally of the terrorists. This Obama deserves to stand trial. If the American people…

      By the way, the American people is our friend. We are not against the American people, who are very respectful. They love Egypt very much. They teach Egyptian Pharaonic history in their schools. We have no problem whatsoever with the American people. But I would like the Congress to send Obama to the guillotine, because three days before the [San Bernardino] terror attack… The attack was on Wednesday. On Tuesday or on Monday, he appeared and lied, like he always does, that liar. All the allies of terrorism are liars. He said: “There is no threat to American citizens.” It is as if he was trying to cover…

      Today, I suspect that Obama is connected to the terrorists who carried out the attack. When he says something like this, he numbs the security agencies, the military, and the intelligence agencies.

      […]
      If this had happened in a respectful country, Obama would have been placed on trial. The U.S. Congress should ask: How come you said that according to your information, no terrorist attack was imminent? [Obama said]: Our intelligence agencies have no information or real threats against citizens on our soil. Less than 72 hours later, a terror attack took place. Yes, today you concluded that it was [terrorism], on the basis of information and surveillance. What is the worthy punishment? He should be sat on impalement rod. This what they would do in a respectful country.

      […]
      If Obama had any courage and dignity – which he has not – he would have said: I resign today to face trial. That is how it is done in respectful countries.

      Why is Congress refraining from drawing up Articles of Impeachment against the man in the Oval Office giving aid, comfort, support, and cover to an open clear enemy of all Non-Muslim Americans?

      One reason: absence of backbone.

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