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Petition to ban Donald Trump from the UK gets 100,000 signatures

Dec 9, 2015 2:40 pm By Robert Spencer

There is no freedom of speech in Britain anymore. There is just the big thundering herd getting led around by the political and media elites. Say something that is unpopular with those elites, and you’re liable to be banned from the country.

British Future director Sunder Katwala says: “The UK Home Office has set out clear guidelines which have led to the exclusion of preachers of hate from the UK if their presence here would not be conducive to the public good. Theresa May has excluded extreme Islamists on these grounds” — while letting in a huge number of jihad preachers, such as Mohammed al-Arefe, who has said: “Devotion to jihad for the sake of Allah, and the desire to shed blood, to smash skulls, and to sever limbs for the sake of Allah and in defense of His religion, is, undoubtedly, an honor for the believer. Allah said that if a man fights the infidels, the infidels will be unable to prepare to fight.” That was just fine with Theresa May.

Katwala goes on to say that the Home Office has “kept out those who have fanned extreme anti-Muslim prejudice, such as the bloggers Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer. Trump’s statements are more extreme than theirs.” The Express goes on to characterize us as “extremists Geller and Spencer.” How did we fan “extreme anti-Muslim prejudice” and become “extremists”? The letter that the Home Office sent me said that I was banned for saying: “[Islam] is a religion and is a belief system that mandates warfare against unbelievers for the purpose for establishing a societal model that is absolutely incompatible with Western society because media and general government unwillingness to face the sources of Islamic terrorism these things remain largely unknown.” This is a garbled version of what I actually said, which is that Islam in its traditional formulations and core texts mandates warfare against and the subjugation of unbelievers.

This is tantamount to banning me for saying that the sky is blue and the grass is green. This is what gets you labeled a dangerous “extremist” in Britain these days: noting an obvious factual point that is reinforced by every day’s headlines. And now the same sinister authoritarians who are rapidly destroying Britain have set their sights on banning Trump as well. While I am no fan of Trump and could never support his candidacy, and see a certain poetic justice in the foes of free speech turning on a man who doesn’t understand the importance of defending free speech, this is still a grave injustice, and a sign of how close Britain is to falling into the abyss.

Donald Trump

“‘Block Donald Trump from UK’ 100,000 sign petition as fury rages over Muslim ban call,” by Greg Heffer and Rebecca Perring, Express, December 9, 2015:

A staggering FOUR Britons a second have signed a petition calling for the billionaire to be blocked from entering the UK, after he vowed to ban all Muslims from America.

At 12.30pm more than 100,000 people had signed an online petition stating: “The signatories believe Donald J Trump should be banned from UK entry”.

Reaching the 100,000 threshold means it will have to be considered for debate in Parliament.

Radical candidate Trump has sparked international outrage after he pledged to bar access to the US for all Muslims if he were to win power.

The property tycoon is hoping to win the Republican nomination to run in next November’s presidential election.

The petition adds: “The UK has banned entry to many individuals for hate speech. The same principles should apply to everyone who wishes to enter the UK.

“If the United Kingdom is to continue applying the ‘unacceptable behaviour’ criteria to those who wish to enter its borders, it must be fairly applied to the rich as well as poor, and the weak as well as powerful.”

Just after 8.30am this morning, 45,000 people had signed the petition meaning more than doubled its support in less than four hours.

Trump, who is worth an estimated $4.5billion (£3bn), yesterday tried to justify his extremist policy by bizarrely claiming some parts of London are so “radicalised” police officers fear for their lives.

The 69-year-old said he was calling for an American ban on Muslims so the country is not left with no-go areas where police are “afraid for their own lives” from Islamist terrorists like in Paris and London.

Referring to the recent Islamic State (ISIS) attacks in the French capital, he said: “Look at what happened in Paris, the horrible carnage, and frankly, if you look at Paris, and I hate to do this because the Chamber of Commerce is going to go crazy, but Paris is no longer the same city it was.

“They have sections in Paris that are radicalised, where the police refuse to go there. They’re petrified. The police refuse to go in there.

“We have places in London and other places that are so radicalised that the police are afraid for their own lives. We have to be very smart and very vigilant.”

Mayor of London Boris Johnson hit back at Trump’s false portrayal of the capital, quipping the only reason he wouldn’t go to some parts of New York “is the real risk of meeting Donald Trump”.

He added: “As a city where more than 300 languages are spoken, London has a proud history of tolerance and diversity and to suggest there are areas where police officers cannot go because of radicalisation is simply ridiculous.”

Prime Minister David Cameron also branded Trump’s far-right views “divisive, unhelpful and quite simply wrong” while Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn branded the American politician’s comments an “affront to humanity” and called for people to “unite against racism”.

The Metropolitan Police said they “would not normally dignify such comments with a response” but added Trump “could not be more wrong” with his description of ‘no-go areas’ in the capital.

He was also offered a briefing on “the reality of policing London”….

British Future director Sunder Katwala said in a statement on his organisation’s website: “It is hugely irresponsible for a prominent figure like Trump to fan the flames of prejudice in this way and raises questions over whether the UK should consider barring Trump from the UK on hate speech grounds.

“The proposals are ludicrous and unconstitutional, and will be rejected by America’s decent majority, among them many proud Muslim Americans. They are also a gift to ISIS propaganda, playing into the idea of a ‘clash of civilisations’.

He added: “It is important that the UK Government makes very clear that this extreme view is rejected and repudiated in the strongest possible terms.

“The UK Home Office has set out clear guidelines which have led to the exclusion of preachers of hate from the UK if their presence here would not be conducive to the public good.

“Theresa May has excluded extreme Islamists on these grounds, and also kept out those who have fanned extreme anti-Muslim prejudice, such as the bloggers Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer. Trump’s statements are more extreme than theirs.

“Unless and until Trump were to retract these highly prejudiced comments, there is a good case for making clear that he would be refused entry to the UK by the Home Secretary.”

Extremists Geller and Spencer were banned from attending a far-right English Defence League march in 2013 because their presence would not have been “conducive to the public good”….

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  1. Aardvark says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 2:45 pm

    As I write this, the petition is nearer 300,000. But if you look at the map link on the petition site, you will realise where the vast majority of these signatures are coming from. By an amazing coincidence, the areas with most signatures are also the areas with most mohammedans!

    • Don McKellar says

      Dec 9, 2015 at 4:30 pm

      Shocker!

      How many moslems are there in the UK? You can count on all those signatures. Plus a good-sized population of left-fascists.

      • Jay Boo says

        Dec 10, 2015 at 1:33 am

        How many of them same left-fascists where outraged by the murder of Lee Rigby?

        Left-fascists don’t join the military in the first place because they have no loyalty to their country and do not mind collaborating with fellow traitors.
        The Left-fascists who are well off financially have no problem dumping Muslims in poorer neighborhoods while simultaneously bragging about how tolerant they are.

        • underbed cat says

          Dec 11, 2015 at 9:59 pm

          I was very upset by Lee Rigby’s attack, so your comment resonates with me, where was the petition. Oh, I forgot in the U.K., that would be a thought “hate crime” . Or the elderly woman in her garden.. ..I guess this is the effect of terror.

          What we don’t know is how long muslim influence groups have been running the show, with deception, media, demands and cash.

          I am glad we have a Donald….the silver perfect speech can be left for the political correct, global warming, see no evil crowd. So I hope he continues.

      • Christianblood says

        Dec 10, 2015 at 6:42 pm

        (Petition to ban Donald Trump from the UK gets 100,000 signatures)

        That petition is now close to 500.000 signatures. Donald Trump is the most hated individual in the Western world today because of the Truthful pronouncement about islam and muslims that he made a few days ago. Majority of the people in the West are moral relativists who are very stupid, ignorant, pro islam, pro jihad, pro homosexuality and profoundly anti-Christian.

        • G P says

          Dec 11, 2015 at 2:16 am

          Yes, and they will expect Christians and Jews to save them

    • Infidel from Down Under says

      Dec 10, 2015 at 1:23 am

      Even then it is still only 300,000 out of 60 plus million

      We are talking .05% , or put another way just half of one percent that equates to only 1 in every 200 people

      Irrelevant!!

    • Lee says

      Dec 10, 2015 at 5:39 am

      Is it possible for some Britisher to start a petition calling for Jihadists (or “those adhering to an ideology calling for Jihad” for example) to be banned from entering the country? The only problem I foresee is that names and address open up signatories to harassment from journalists, police, Jihadists, employers etc… But if the numbers signing were massive, it might be too difficult to harass or fire say 20% of the working population.

    • jayell says

      Dec 10, 2015 at 11:20 am

      “By an amazing coincidence, the areas with most signatures are also the areas with most mohammedans!”

      This is exactly what we should expect. According to the last guessimate, there are about 3 million muslims in the UK. Anyone with a British passport and a British address can organise or vote in these petitions. Bearing in mind the quite un-British, crudely iliberal, quasi-totalitarian, anti-democratic and anti-free speech spirit of this particular petition, we can assume that it is muslim-inspired, and will therefore attract as many of the muslim population as possible to add their grubby little votes. To get a clearer view of wnat the REAL British think, look at the newspaper blogs, and you will see thousands of votes supporting comments which back what Mr. Trump is saying. Also, officers from the Met police have let it be known in the Pess that Mr. Trump is dead right when he says that the police have effectively lost control of whole areas of London, and there is an infamaus clip on Youtube, shot I believe by muslims some years back, showing Met police officers retreating from aggressive muslims in a muslim demo somewhere in th capital. Also bear in mind that we’ve been here before in the UK, e.g., Geert Widers (a Dutch MP!!!) was banned from entering the UK to give a talk about islam in Parliament when a certain muslim member of the House of Lords threatened to bring 10,000 of his mates to create mayhem in London if Mr. Wilders appeared. Then, of course, there was your own Ms. Geller and, last but by no means least, your own Mr. Spencer.

      My advice is to ignore this petition, no matter how many thousands of signatures it gets, because, as Aardvaark so rightly points out, we know where these signatures are coming from – and it’s NOT from the 92+% of the UK population that I would call the ‘proper British’. Apart from the normal dictatorial garbage that we’re supposed to tolerate from thes lovely, peaceful people, my guess is that they’re getting the wind-up because they suspect that what happens in the US today, happens in the UK tomorrow. And they’d be quite right there!

    • DP111 says

      Dec 10, 2015 at 1:22 pm

      Full marks for noting that.

      DavidPriceLess than a minute ago
      Click on the link to the petition, then click on the map where the petitioners are coming from. Surprise, surprise,they are from regions “enriched” by Muslims. Some of those regions also have a Muslim MP.

      Jihadi attacks resulting in hundreds and maybe even thousands of gruesome deaths, will increase, as the Muslim population grows. So the question to our leaders and the media is, “How many hundreds, or thousands of deaths per year due to Jihad are you prepared to accept to appease/satisfy your delusion? Can you justify these deaths to potential victims, i.e., us, and the relatives of the survivors?

      Donald Trump is providing encouragement to the so called moderate Muslims to do something about Islam. This is far better then to wage remorseless war on Muslim countries, resulting in countless deaths of many innocents, uprooting millions of people, as the politicians, supported by the media, are now doing. The result is going to be a legacy of bitter hatred of each other that will last a thousand years or more.

      This continuous war on Islamic countries from the air, from which the victims have no defence, leading to thousands of deaths of innocents and up-rooting of whole sections of society, and then inviting them to the West, is going to leave a legacy of bitter hatred for each other, that will last a thousand years or more.

      Donald Trump’s solution is far better then bombing Islamic countries, and then inviting millions of embittered refugees into the West.

  2. RichardL says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 2:48 pm

    Robert, never say never. Trump is a buffoon but his disgusting style and personality sometimes hide that he has a point. I would support any Republican candidate over Trump, but Trump is better than Clinton. By a million miles.

    • BlueRaven says

      Dec 9, 2015 at 3:40 pm

      I concur.

      • Jay Boo says

        Dec 10, 2015 at 1:41 am

        What is so bad about what Trump said.
        He was only speaking the truth.

        People are getting so used to Obama’s groveling that they are shocked by the non-PC truth now.
        Obama said we are entering a new phase now.
        WHAT????
        The news media doesn’t even challenge that lie.
        NEW PHASE??/
        What about — Ft, Hood, Chattanooga, TN, Boston Marathon —
        Does Obama get a free start over pass to ignore the last seven years he has been in office?

        • underbed cat says

          Dec 10, 2015 at 5:08 pm

          Agree, and he will learn a lot more, I am grateful he is speaking out about the problem of refugees, they are mainly male, and young and the Christians have a low priority, for Administration. Send support food, supplies there is a lot of space in th ME.

    • Don McKellar says

      Dec 9, 2015 at 4:31 pm

      Well, this is the point, isn’t it?

      No matter who the GOP candidate is, everybody MUST get out and vote AGAINST Clinton.

    • vlparker says

      Dec 9, 2015 at 6:53 pm

      Trump is crass, crude and obnoxious and I will not be voting for him in the primary. However, if he does win the nomination I will certainly vote for him over any Democrat.

      • Budvarakbar says

        Dec 9, 2015 at 8:18 pm

        I would be willing to bet you said the same thing about rMoney — you appear to be just another ‘BUTTMONKEY’

        • steve says

          Dec 10, 2015 at 8:53 am

          you sound like a typical stupid Muslim…

      • awake says

        Dec 10, 2015 at 1:05 am

        Fair enough.

      • Champ says

        Dec 10, 2015 at 1:37 am

        Trump is crass, crude and obnoxious and I will not be voting for him in the primary. However, if he does win the nomination I will certainly vote for him over any Democrat.

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        Agreed; me, too.

        • Jay Boo says

          Dec 10, 2015 at 1:46 am

          “Trump is crass, crude and obnoxious …”
          ———————–

          Regardless, he is speaking the absolute truth that other politicians do not dare speak in this case. Obama and Merkel are out of control.

  3. Miro says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 2:55 pm

    More power to Donald Trump and shame on cowards and hypocrites.

    • Isabella says

      Dec 10, 2015 at 6:36 am

      I AGREE

  4. Mr. AR-10 says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 2:56 pm

    So we are now governing by internet petition?

    Good gravy. What a bunch of dorks.

  5. Myxlplik says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 3:02 pm

    Perhaps if he is banned from the UK along with Pamela, Michael, and Robert Donald Trump will gain a greater appreciation for the freedom of expression we enjoy here in the States.

    It would be a teachable moment, and perhaps he would retract his earlier remarks about the Garland Freedom art contest.

    • underbed cat says

      Dec 9, 2015 at 4:06 pm

      I do not wish to be on the wrong side of Geller or Spencer, as I know they were offended by Trumps comments. Truly I think Trump really had a concern for Geller and Spencer, knew that there was a big potential for a attack, but Trump being Trump expressed it in an arkward way. Which I think that every reader of Atlas Shrugs and Jihad Watch had going on in their head, concern for safety, at least I did worry most of the day and was near panic when I heard the first news reports,,,,with out details.

      So maybe amends will be made and Trump may reach out. I can only hope.

      So no surprise that the U.K.ihas got a petition out, I am sorry so many signed. Must have government jobs. Maybe they have such a large population that they had to say something to avoid having this population get afflicted by global warming.

      It is truly a dilemma, how to remove global warming from islam, and off the pages, so much for spiritual journey.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Dec 9, 2015 at 4:17 pm

        My guess is that all or most of the signatures are from Mohammedans (after all, they are very very good at coordinating ‘swarming’-type attacks) and that the non-Mohammedan signatures were contributed by deluded Dhimmis. Of which, at ground level, I think there are fewer in the UK than there used to be.

        • Jay Boo says

          Dec 10, 2015 at 1:57 am

          At the risk of being accused of being sexist I would guess that most of those who signed who were not Muslim were probably women.
          There must be a lot of daffy lady Brits surrounding 10 Downing Street.

        • Mirren10 says

          Dec 10, 2015 at 11:58 am

          On what possible evidence would you base your ‘guess’ ?

          *I* would guess, *none*.

  6. Tom says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 3:04 pm

    Modern day ostracism. Now we have the Internet rather than the shards of pottery in ancient Greece. What would they do if he were elected President of the USA? A few years back, I wrote to the UK embassy that I will not travel to anywhere in the UK until Robert and Pamela are welcome. I wish that thousands of Americans would join my travel boycott of Briton.

  7. Sp says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 3:05 pm

    sorry, Robert. I am still supporting Trump 100%.

    TRUMP 2016!!!!!!!!
    BUILD THAT WALL!!!!!!

    • Jay Boo says

      Dec 10, 2015 at 2:00 am

      Trump did a good thing.
      But can he beat Hillary?
      That is a dangerous gamble.

    • Isabella says

      Dec 10, 2015 at 6:36 am

      I concur.

  8. Cicero says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 3:17 pm

    As a previous poster on this article has said- a demographic breakdown of the voting pattern indicates the majority of signatures emanate from areas in London with high muslim populations.

    As ISIS has become more aufait with us eof the internet and telecommunications so the muslim population in Britian have become a highly organised bloc of voters as well as lobbyists. The most sophisticated networking strategies are evident from petitions such as the one against Donald Trump.

    I very much fear that in spite of our best efforts Britain is losing the battle to maintain its secular , free speaking tolerant identity – a privilege for which. The Welsh, Scottish ,Irish and English have lost so many indigenous lives over the past milennia!

  9. Edward says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 3:22 pm

    The UK has dumped the “mother of all virtue’s”………PRUDENCE!

    Proverbs 22:3 A prudent person foresees danger and takes precautions. The simpleton goes blindly on and suffers the consequences.

    And here’s another bit of good old WISDOM:

    Proverbs 13:16 Every prudent man acts with knowledge, But a fool displays folly.

    Goodbye naughty Old England, have it your way! RIP!

    • Edward says

      Dec 9, 2015 at 4:23 pm

      Oh, I almost forgot! The antonym for “virtue is vice”: >an immoral or evil habit or practice.

      Of course Islam is the “religion of peace” and there is not a tinge of “vice” in their hearts.

      Vice is what! Nayib (vice) has a built-in blanket loophole under the TAQYIAH practice!

      A side note:

      The secrete of the religion of peace title: that status will only be achieved when all non-muslim’s convert to islam or has died!

  10. Dave says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 3:36 pm

    Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952 —

    “Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”

    • JW says

      Dec 9, 2015 at 3:56 pm

      David Cameron and other brit politicos have gone on record smearing Trump even tho they are not Americans and have zero say in our elections and candidates.
      With regard to the immigration and nationality act of 1952… that was before our Muslimchurian candidate Hussein Obama snuck into the WH.

  11. Cicero says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 3:42 pm

    The educated middle class who are left leaning misguidedly twitter about Trumps remarks as racist and churlish. They keep repeating this obesrvation again and again as though by repaeating this lie. Sufficiently will see it metastasize into the Truth.

    Even our esteemed leader DC is chuntering on about divisiveness and untruth. It is puzzling that a prime minister who has such a towering intellect ( a first class degree) could display such towering ignorance over the realities of what the barbaric ideology of the Middle East standsfor ( and I am not talking about oil worship either)

    The Mayor of London does no better calling Trump,’s remarks as racist. As if Islam is a race . I cannot believe thatthey do not know the truth ? I cannot believe they have not read the Koran themselves- since all Islam’s soul destroying murderousness is laid bare in its foetid pages!

  12. BlueRaven says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 3:44 pm

    It is not up to the Mohamedians decide who can visit the UK. If Trump is elected, he will be welcomed in the UK. The ties between UK & USA are very long and deep. The stuff Mohamedians will never understand.

  13. JW says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 3:48 pm

    David Cameron and Theresa May have gone on record smearing Trump even tho they are not Americans and have zero say in our elections and candidates. It has been said that “there’ll always be an England” but I don’t think so. UK has surrendered to islam and its terrorist mentality. Bye bye to old blighty!

  14. marc says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    This is hilarious, the man who refused to defend free speech has himself become a victim of the same fascism he promoted.

    On another subject, they must not let him near big ben, as he’s likley to try and switch the internet off https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDbyYGrswtg

  15. Pig Jizya says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 3:50 pm

    Do you think UK will ban the next POTUS? I don’t think so.

    • Westman says

      Dec 9, 2015 at 4:17 pm

      Right. Ban your protection and emergency money supply?

      Apparently, Sunder Katwala, British Future Director, doesn’t know US law any better than the HuffPost. Don’t you get tired of “jounalists” who sell their own views by quoting erroneous assumptions by “leaders”?

  16. BlueRaven says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 3:54 pm

    Is there any way we can start a petition in the UK against the extremist views of Islam and see if the UK Government will defend that against the onslaught of Mohammedans.

    Another petition: Mo is not my Prophet, the Press should stop writing about him as such.

  17. Jaladhi says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 3:59 pm

    Britain is on a clear path of Islamization and this is expected from them!! Do Brits know where they are going??

    • Minstrel says

      Dec 9, 2015 at 4:18 pm

      They have no idea where they are going. Neither do the Royals. What are the Royals going to do when the Muslims finally kick them out of the castle? Obviously their denial runs so deeply that they have not considered that, and at the rate of Islamization it will occur by 2030.

  18. Westman says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 4:04 pm

    Er..Umm… Although I don’t care for some of the over-the-top statements, The Donald, as President, would have authority, in law, to 1. Stop Immigration altogether, or, 2. Stop immigration of a particular group by executive order. These folks that say it is unconstitutional haven’t taken time to read the law. It was passed in 1952 and was used by Jimmy Carter in1979 to stop all immigration from Iran.

    While the UK may tremble before Islam, we do not. One thing is certain, Britain will never take the risk of refusing entry to a US president no matter what his personal views, anymore that they would refuse Putin. This is an attempt, which will fail, for Muslims in the UK to effect the outcome of the US Presidential election. And it will backfire as many of those “protesting” by petition for influence in another country, are now known by the UK government, and the government is also on notice that there is unrest on a large scale; portending future problems.

  19. jewdog says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 4:19 pm

    Banning Muslim immigration should have been the first act of authority after 911. It would have saved trillions of dollars and thousands of lives. It is the simplest and most humane solution in that it avoids the expense and hazards associated with risky and often dubious overseas campaigns. It’s a solution according Occam’s Razor (simplest is best), especially apt in situations when we are dealing with many unknowns in new circumstances thrust on us.
    Trump may be intellectually shallow when it comes to the details, but he grasps some of the larger issues very well.

  20. Henry says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 4:30 pm

    The UK has raided three mosques and discovered isis propaganda .They plan to shut 160,
    France has shut down mosques as have Tunisia , Cameroon and Egyot which closed 2700.
    Cameron himself had proposed legislation to close mosques..
    This is all a political ploy as is the CNN attack Trump policy fueled by Karl ‘Rove’s “Hummingbird” project to knock Trump out of the race . They are now proposing he step out and run as an Independent which would hand the Presidential election over to Hilary after splitting the GOP.
    It’s all out there for people who can read vs those who rather be told what to think.

  21. Thomas says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 4:31 pm

    Donald gets tainted as a racist for putting a hold on a group of persons from entering the USA, where it is a known fact that some of them want destroy our country.

    He wants to prevent killers from killing us.

    However, NONE of the Arab countries will accept any migrants.

    Obama, with all of his Islamic connections, have failed to convince the Saudi family.

    The Saudi family does not want to accept any risk, so none of the migrants are allowed in.

  22. dumbledoresarmy says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 4:36 pm

    Since the subject of the thread is the UK, here is a very, very interesting piece, via the excellent Israeli blogger, “Israellycool”. A review of Tommy Robinson’s book (reviewer is a bloke named ‘Brian of London’ – an Israeli who was reared in the UK and knows the territory). Brian gives it a good chit.

    But it makes for terrifying reading. Best bit, however, is an extensive quote from the book in which Tommy describes what happened when, after the British authorities managed to find a way of locking him up in jail, a Muslim dawa outfit gave him a Quran…and he read it. You see, he founded the EDL on the basis of common-sense observation of mohammedan bad behaviour, without knowing exactly where all the patterns of bad behaviour were coming from…but when he was sitting in his jail cell with a Koran, with lots of time to read and reflect, and put 2 and 2 together, it all clicked into place. It was like, “Oh shit, so THAT’S why they’re doing this…and this…and this…”.

    http://www.israellycool.com/2015/12/05/tommy-robinson-says-hes-an-enemy-of-the-state-book-review/

    I quote:

    “Such as I had entertainment, it was getting on the nerves of the Muslim prisoners down the block with me. If there was one positive to take away from that experience, it was a better understanding of the type of people I was dealing with.

    “I read the Koran during those 22 weeks in solitary and suddenly all of what I suppose people might call Islamic prejudices didn’t seem so prejudiced at all.

    “Most of what I’d heard second and third hand was right there in black and white, absolute encouragement – no, a divine instruction – to act atrociously towards the rest of the world. Obey Allah or burn in hell forever. Page after page of it. Sex slaves, the lot. The thing is horrific.

    “The Koran was sent to me by a Dawa group – Muslim missionaries who try to turn people to Islam.

    “They probably thought they were having a laugh at my expense, but they ended up doing me a huge favour.

    (ROFLMAO – talk about the Ummah scoring an ‘own goal’ and then some! giving Tommy Robinson a Quran to read so he could find out exactly what their Book of War had in it! – dda)

    “I started writing down key facts, about their hateful attitude towards Jews and Christians, about sexual slavery. I couldn’t get my head round it. Here was the holy book the world’s Muslims want to rule the planet by – and if you ask my opinion, the thing should be banned for inciting racial and religious hatred on almost every page…”.

    You’re in good company, Tommy Robinson. William Gladstone, a long-ago PM of the UK, held up the Koran in Parliament, called it “an accursed book” and stated that “so long as there is this book there will be no peace on the earth”.

    Though from another POV, so long as there are mohammedans about on the planet, the Quran in accurate translations by non-Muslim scholars *should* be freely available – though with clearly posted warnings and non-Islamophile commentary attached – so that every Infidel knows *exactly* what the mohammedan agenda is. The Quran, Sira, Hadiths, Al-Tabari and co. *should* be on the bookshelves of every Infidel general…so that they can *anticipate* and outsmart mohammedan gang bosses in the battlefield and elsewhere. For example: once one knows about the way hudna works, all the delusive ‘peace processes’ around the world – India (with Pakistan, over Kashmir), Thailand, Philippines, Israel, etc – would be ditched by the Infidel side, as a total waste of time.

  23. Nic says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 4:38 pm

    Chill out Robert,

    The population of the UK is around 65 Million.

    300,000 Mulsims and Marxist self-haters signing a petition is nothing to get worried about.

    Our Security Services are pretty efficient (though we should never be complacent)

    It’s the USA thats getting all the Islamic terrorist murders. Look to the gaps in your own FBI and DHS (as – indeed – you do a good job of highlighting.. well done) before you fret about the UK.

    Warm regards.

  24. don vito says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 4:44 pm

    Are the petition signers Kufr? It would seem as expressed previously, are coming from the No-Go zones.

  25. citycat says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 5:01 pm

    I did hear on the radio that it would be better if Trump did turn up and then have a debate with Cameron et al, on the assumption that Cameron et al would win.
    “unite against racism”
    who is racist and intends to murder, convert or subjugate all apart from themselves? and is Islam a race?

  26. Colin says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 5:48 pm

    Corbyn the new leader of the Labour Party – even wierder than the previous one, Miliband – was ‘swept into’ the position by a surge of a few hundred thousand votes. No surprise; between Muslims and the left-over rabble from the collapsed Communist Part of Great Business- never able to get themselves accepted anywhere locally, it is easy for them to assemble a million names on a list for any purpose. They’d easily get support for a Calihate, anew Kremlin, an Inquisition or the reopening of Auschwitz.

  27. mortimer says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 5:52 pm

    UK Muslims are a powder keg waiting to explode. British politicians are unable to denounce the reality of jihad terror, so they dance around it or deny it in public.

  28. Angemon says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 5:54 pm

    Let’s say that dhimmi Cameron and dhimmi May cave in and prevent Trump from entering the UK on the basis of his views. Let’s say that Trump gets elected as the next POTUS. I think Cameron and May’s heads would explode – do they let Trump in and start wearing leathernecks or do they cave in to the muslim menace and prevent a leader of a foreign nation to enter their state?

  29. Matthieu Baudin says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 6:18 pm

    This ‘keep the peace at all cost’ approach by the British authorities is a blanket appeasement to the strata of violent social misfits who have blown up buses, murdered off duty soldiers and sexually exploited many scores of girls with virtual impunity.

    The scales of justice have been set askew in the U.K. by an arrogant, determined, new social elite who are holding the common man and woman tightly by the short and curlys.

    The sooner a troupe of plain speakers, such as Robert and many others including Donald Trump make their entry into the country, via an almost independent Scotland, the better for all of us.

  30. Peggy says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 6:50 pm

    So who are the 100,000 people who signed the petition? There are a lot more Muslims in the UK than that so my guess is that it’s Muslims who are rushing to sign this.
    Imagine if he became the president of US. How will they ban him then?

  31. Michael Copeland says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 6:51 pm

    Several Met officers have said the ‘Islamification’ of some parts of the capital requires ‘extra vigilance’ and they can’t wear uniforms for safety reasons – despite Scotland Yard claiming the tycoon ‘couldn’t be more wrong’. (UK Daily Mail )
    http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/12/09/uk-police-say-donald-trump-is-right-about-no-go-zones-in-london/#comments

  32. Marisol Enrique says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 7:04 pm

    SHOCKING NEWS UPDATE: TRUMP HAS A LEGAL PRECEDENT TO STAND ON–The Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952, Section 212 Chapter 2–which PROHIBITS ENTRY into America of ALIENS belonging to an organization seeking the unlawful OVERTHROW of the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT of the United States by force, violence and other unconstitutional means!!

    “Islamic immigration would be illegal under this law. Why? The Koran, Sharia Law and the Hadith all require complete SUBMISSION TO ISLAM, which is against our values and violate the Constitution as it requires them [Muslims] to kill the INFIDEL, which happens to be citizens of the United States.

    The Islamic faith also requires total submission to Islam and its form of government (Sharia law). The 1962 Act states that Aliens affiliated with any ‘organization’ that advocates the overthrow of our government must be PROHIBITED ENTRY INTO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!”

    Trump is correct–Muslims should be PREVENTED from entering the U.S. because their Quran, their faith (Islam), their Sharia, are intent upon DOMINATING and OVERTHROWING the U.S. Constitution and laws of the land–clearly against the 1952 Act!! GO, TRUMP, GO!!

    http://www.barenakedislam.com/2015/12/09/donald-trump-vindicated-again-muslim-immigrants-violate-the-1952-immigration-and-nationality-act/

  33. John says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 7:07 pm

    The EDL is far right….? They draw that conclusion from what exactly is anybody’s guess. What that statement really says is that only left wing liberal rhetoric and lies are correct.

  34. Mirren10 says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 8:01 pm

    MI5 should now be investigating all the signatories. These are the people who will either commit the next series of mohammedan murders, or will protect and hide those who do.

  35. Mirren10 says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 8:12 pm

    *This* petition, to stop muslim immigration, has only managed slightly over 4,000 signatures. Shows where some people’s priorities lie …

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/107117

  36. Bezelel says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 8:15 pm

    The irony of it all is more than coincidental. Trump has just started down the path that Robert and Pamela have been on for years. The same awaits anyone who dares to promote reality. Just shut up and shelter in place and it will be all over with before you know it. NOT.

  37. nacazo says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 9:05 pm

    Sharia enforcement worldwide. Islam followers have more rights than the rest.

  38. billybob says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    I am a bit shocked to see Geller and Spencer referred to as “Extremists”. Extreme in what way? Extremely knowledgeable and articulate? Extremely well versed in the subject of Islam? Even extremely presentable as public speakers? And Briton doesn’t want them to open a badly needed discussion in their country…

    We desperately need courageous people like Geller and Spencer, who provide a valuable perspective on the the most topical issue of our times. So few people know what is in the Quran and what Islam is all about. Why aren’t the Quran and Hadiths discussed broadly in universities, exactly with the perspective provided by Geller and Spencer, in the best traditions of academia?

    When I was young, the scourge of the day was Natziism and Communism. We had many books promoting these ideologies that concerned a lot of people, like Mein Kempf, Quotations from Mao Tse Tung, and many others. How did we as a society deal with our concerns? Some thought such books should be banned, while most realized that would make their insidious ideas even more alluring.

    It was not by banning books, but rather, by discussing them openly in the broad light of day in universities that provided perspective. Proponents and critics were welcomed alike, and the fallacies in the core logic of these ideologies was clearly exposed in the process. This was an educational experience we grew up with, and that inoculated us against extreme ideologies. And by the way, we never lost any sleep worrying that the communists or natizis would feel insulted because we critiqued their ideologies.

    Really, I shouldn’t be here on Spencer’s website talking about this. Spencer should be so booked up ahead by universities all over the West as a guest speaker that he wouldn’t have time to dabble in a website. What is wrong with this world the he isn’t? Is Islam somehow so sacred that it is exempt from healthy criticism? Of course, it exempts itself, but that doesn’t count with me. I feel I have a right to be well informed.

    It seems there are people and leaders who equate criticism of Islam with hate. They want to put such discussion off limits. They are very short sighted. It seems to me if Islam was discussed from all angles as broadly and freely as communism or natziism or any other political ideology, it would be far healthier for society.

    Recently, I remember so much talk of the fake religion Scientology. It was broadly discussed in forums all over the internet, to such a point where we aren’t really that interested in it anymore. Before that, they were so many other movements. Who remembers the Moonies, for example? In these cases, nobody blinked an eye at criticism of the core teachings of these groups. Nobody would accuse you of hate speech if you criticized Scientology, or even accuse you of being a racist bigot. Why should Islam be exempt?

    It is my hope that one day we will no longer hear Geller and Spencer referred to as “Extremists”. Rather, they will simply be sought after lecturers and guest speakers who are appreciated for their knowledge and perspective.

    • Mathew Solo says

      Dec 10, 2015 at 2:35 am

      Thank You billybob…A breath of fresh air.

  39. PrayerWarrior says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 9:53 pm

    http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/625545/Donald-Trump-Muslims-speech-British-police-ISIS-radicalisation-London

    Rank and file policemen are saying Trump is right about ‘no go’ zones.’

    [quote:]The anonymous officer wrote on the online forum Police.Community: “I’m not allowed to travel in half blues to work anymore IN MY OWN CAR as we’re ’All at risk of attack’ – yet as soon as someone points out the obvious it’s ‘divisive.'”

    He added: “In this instance he (Trump) isn’t wrong. Our political leaders are best either ill-informed or simply being disingenuous. [quote/]

  40. Vae Victis says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 11:08 pm

    Interesting to read Enoch Powell’s 1968 “Rivers of Blood” speech.

    …” In this country in 15 or 20 years’ time the black man will have the whip hand over the white man.” ….

    “As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding; like the Roman, I seem to see “the River Tiber foaming with much blood.”

    • Mirren10 says

      Dec 10, 2015 at 12:05 pm

      How right he was.

      May the earth lie lightly upon him.

  41. Mathew Solo says

    Dec 9, 2015 at 11:09 pm

    “Never give in — never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honour and good sense. Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the enemy.”

    “The power of the Executive to cast a man in prison without formulating any charge known to the law, and particularly to deny him the judgment of his peers is in the highest degree odious and is the foundation of all totalitarian government, whether Nazi or Communist.”

    “It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.”

    Winston Churchill

  42. Jeremiah says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 12:43 am

    Will the People be able to vote on whether Trump gets to talk in England?

  43. Baucent says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 1:51 am

    Most signing the petition against Trump are probably the UK Pakistani relatives of Farook and Malik.

    But what a ridiculous situation, the Parliament of the United Kingdon being required to debate a petition relating to a candidate in the US Republican primary. Should Britain be taking any position on a politician not yet elected to any office? What would they do if (God forbid!) he went on the win the Presidency? Ban him from visiting the UK?

    Meanwhile muslim supremacist Imams make regular visits to the dhimmis kingdom.

    • Adam says

      Dec 10, 2015 at 3:42 am

      I hope the petition succeeds & they do ban him & then…he becomes President, that would be the best outcome.

      The people sitting on the fence will soon realise what a mistake it was.

  44. Baucent says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 1:58 am

    As for the “no go zones”, Trump probably got confused. There are definately “unpoliced” zones in Paris, Brussels and Sweden. But Tower Hamlets in London isn’t far off becoming a “no go” area. They tried to declare it a Sharish Zone last year, so Mayor Boris (“the Turk”) Johnson is being a little coy. The most popular baby boys name last year in London was …Mohammed (in various spellings), so Islamisation is well on track.

    • Adam says

      Dec 10, 2015 at 3:39 am

      There is an area in Tower Hamlet’s called “Shadwell”, it’s an utter pit. There are street signs written in Bengali…oh & Englsih surprisingly.

  45. Mathew Solo says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 2:24 am

    Islam is the second largest religion with results from the United Kingdom Census 2011 giving the UK Muslim population in 2011 as ~2,706,066, ~4.5% of the total population.

    The vast majority of Muslims in the United Kingdom live in England: 2,660,116 (5.02% of the population). 76,737 Muslims live in Scotland (1.45%), 45,950 in Wales (1.50%), and 3,832 in Northern Ireland (0.21%).

    In 2011 it was reported that the United Kingdom had around 100,000 converts to Islam…of which 66% were women….Islam is the fastest growing religious confession in the UK…its adherents have the lowest average age out of all the major religious groups…Between 2001 and 2009 the Muslim population increased almost 10 times faster than the non-Muslim population.

  46. sally says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 2:31 am

    maybe cruz can convince the Donald to be his VP in the best interest of america

    • terry says

      Dec 10, 2015 at 3:57 am

      lol Maybe its the other way around.

  47. Hans says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 3:11 am

    Can’t believe the hostility towards trump on this website. At long last a candidate that dares speak the truth and you people will not vote for him?!

  48. Adam says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 3:36 am

    The one thing about Donald Trump…he doesn’t back down, he didn’t become worth $9b by being meek in the face of adversity.
    I disagree with Robert on one point i.e shutting down free speech. I think he’s just putting all these lefists in their place & giving them a taste of their own medicine.

    In regards to the ban: I hope the British government (I’m British) does ban him & then…he becomes U.S President. That’d be the best outcome of all, as it’d really stick to the establishment to have to do a big u-turn & then Trump refuses to even come to the UK, starts cutting security cooperation etc.
    Something not mentioned in the article: The Scottish media leading calls for boycott of Trump Hotel’s & Golf courses in Scotland…good, let him close them then & the people lose their jobs & add to Scotland’s 170k unemployed (out of 5.1M people)

  49. Manuel Franco says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 3:45 am

    I didn’t care much about Donald Trump before; but now, he went up a mile in my book. Crazy media whore or not; that was a gutsy and admirable move. To be commended regardless. So not only does he has my full attention and support. He sure has my vote too!

  50. terry says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 3:55 am

    I am voting for the man because I am sick and tired of ALL elites. By definition, an elitist is anyone who thinks they know better for me than I know for myself. And after all, all those with elitist views run and romp in the same fields. Furthermore, I believe in free speech and have suffered for such for many years, but I did not care one way or the other for the sensationalism of the Garland event- artist have the right to do as they will. I have the same rights to ignore what I do not call art, and there is much Art so-called that I do not consider to be Art! AND yes, I get why it was done. Everything one does is not always right. Trump for President!

  51. David Scoltock says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 6:40 am

    Ok a few things about the UK

    1) We are not subject to American laws or the American constitution. We have legislation regarding hate speech. You can’t walk down the street, waving a nazi flag and chanting “death to all Jews” which you can legaly do in America.

    2) We are a democracy and have in place a system where you can petition the government to discuss an issue. It does not guarantee a result but it holds the government to account and makes them discuss matters that the people wish to be raised.

    3) we have banned muslim demagogues and christian nutjobs alike.

  52. DeMolay says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 6:43 am

    Anyone in the uk can sign / spread this counter petition. Unsurprisingly it is receiving zero press coverage so please distribute.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114907

    • David Scoltock says

      Dec 10, 2015 at 6:45 am

      Because it’s a little pointless.

      Either petition will have the same result, to hold a discussion in parliment over the banning of Donald Trump. A petition NOT to ban him is stupidly counter-productive as you are raising a discussion to ban him with a petiton not to ban him.

  53. DFD says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 6:47 am

    Jay Boo says “Trump is crass, crud etc…” and “Regardless, he is speaking the truth that other politicians do not dare speak.. partially snipped… “Obama and Merkel are out of control.”

    You’re wrong dear chap, they are in control, and very much so. What do you think, why do we have such problems in Europe? Or is Eurabia?

    Jay Boo says further “There must be a lot of daffy lady Brits surrounding 10 Downing Street.”

    Surrounding? They are in 10 Downing, and running it – into the ground.

    Rgards
    DFD

  54. Peter Hardie says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 6:56 am

    I’ll bet that the vast majority of those signing the petition are muslms and or lefties. That still leaves at least 50 million Brits who do not feel strong enought to join in which really easy given its online. Also check out the other press reports and the public commentaries about this issue. The Mail ran an article on Trumps call yesterday. The comments column said it all. Almost 100 :1 were supportive of Trump’s call. Again the silent majority shown the weak liberal/socialist political classes how out of touch they are. Its the reason the Conservatives won the election. Just a pity that the current Conservative leaders are not true cponservatives!

  55. duh_swami says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 7:19 am

    At least he promises to make American greater.. the guy you elected twice seeks to destroy it… …He has a lot to learn and is not my favorite, but if he is chosen he has my vote…

  56. Barry Moat says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 7:25 am

    I wish they would run a petition in the UK for those who support Mr. Trump’s views.I guess they would be in for a big surprise. It won’t happen because the PC press would not allow it.

  57. rick nash says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 7:37 am

    England and all european countries is having a huge problem with Fanatic muslims taking over streets and creating even no go zone for no muslims what the hell are the doing condemning Mr.Trump.Its for your own good you stupid Londoners.Cant you see whats happening inside closed doors inside the mosques they are spreading hatred and Jihad against all non muslims
    iys time we have to stop muslims coming from Pakistan,and all troubled countries so we can figure out what to do Mr.Trump did not say to all muslims only to fanatics

  58. Sheri says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 9:40 am

    Sleep with dogs and you get fleas.

  59. Omar Kahlid says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 12:18 pm

    The UK is lost. I have been to London probably 30 times in the 90’s and early 2000nds. I changed into a third world shithole. Whites have no place in London unless very wealthy. Brits are lost and swimming in a rape infested culture that enjoys their suffering as they abuse the children. Give Brits their guns and let them clean it up.

  60. Linda Rivera says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 1:05 pm

    I’m native English. My ancestors are easily traced back for one thousand years. Our cherished island nation, OUR inheritance, was handed down to us from one generation to the next. No one, and most certainly not selfish, corrupt politicians have the right to give away OUR nation.

    Yet our leaders (as also other corrupt European leaders) have given what belongs to us, to the huge Muslim Third World and even force our people to financially provide, FOREVER, for Muslims and the huge families they raise up in our countries.

    Our little countries are all we have. Muslims have 56 Muslim countries. Our traitor leaders believe that the Muslims must also have our countries as well as the 56 nations that Muslims conquered and turn our nations into Islamic nations ruled by Muslims and barbaric sharia. Everything that Europe has always stood against. POPULATION REPLACEMENT is FORBIDDEN by INTERNATIONAL LAW.

    I’m deeply grateful to our European heroes of centuries ago who drove out the huge hordes of barbaric Muslim sex slavers. Because of our European heroes I’m able to know and worship Israel’s God, the HOLY ONE, our Magnificent, Awesome Creator and God’s Wonderful, Amazing Son, Jesus Christ, my Saviour.

    Please someone, make a petition asking that Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller and Donald Trump are allowed and WELCOMED into Britain as HEROES and human rights activists for the freedom and safety of the human race.

    Please God, Watch over and protect Robert Spencer, Pamela Geller, Donald Trump and their families.Let Your Light shine on them. Amen.

    • Mathew Solo says

      Dec 10, 2015 at 6:06 pm

      Linda…I liked what You Wrote…The Muslims haven’t won yet…and should be keeping their eyes on the Middle East…since You have checked for a reply to Your Comment…maybe You might read
      this below…I wrote it as a comment to another article…elsewhere.

      Is a Middle Eastern Caliphate Possible for the region.

      Mohamed Bouazizi was trying to support his family as a street vendor when Tunisian police confiscated his vegetable cart and produce…In protest…he burned himself to death in an act that sparked a wave of protests leading to the toppling of Tunisia’s 26-year-old Ben Ali regime…so the story goes.

      This set off a series of further protests across the Middle East in what some have called the Tunisian Wind…Did the Tunisian Wind become a Storm of Radical Islamism that will change the political and social landscape of the Middle East…Commentators struggle to find a context.

      But do they recognize the likelihood…the danger…that more Islamist governments may be on the horizon…Islamist political philosophy advocates the rule of nations (and eventually the whole world…through conversion or conquest) by the many centuries of Sharia law built on the foundation of the Muslim holy book…the Qu’ran.

      Frequently…when Muslim-majority nations have the opportunity to hold democratic elections to choose their government…they elect Islamist candidates…even when those candidates oppose the very democracy that allowed their election.

      When voters in the Palestinian Authority territories chose members of the Palestinian Legislative Council…A plurality voted for Hamas…Since then…Hamas has gained strength among Palestinians…few believe that the organization is truly committed to democracy…Votes or not…it is assumed…Hamas will continue to press its agenda of Islamist theocracy and Sharia law…a Caliphate in miniature.

      Iran is an Islamic republic…with an Islamic constitution…It wasn’t until the impeachment of secular President Abulhassan Banisadr…that clerical dominance in the Iranian regime became clear…Iran Strongly Influences Iraq…Syria…and Lebanon…and anywhere it can.

      Recep Tayyip Erdogan…currently Prime Minister of Turkey…a radical Islamist…He once quipped (Democracy is like a streetcar…You ride it until you arrive at your destination and then you step off).

      In Egypt…95 percent of Muslims said that it is good for Islam to play a large role in politics…80 percent said that it would be bad for Islam to play a small role in politics…It is little wonder that Muslims frequently vote for Islamist parties when they are permitted a choice.

      Saudi Arabia…Kuwait…Bahrain…Yemen…the United Arab Emirates…Are Islamic Governments and have regional influence.

      The term Caliphate means the dominion of a Caliph and refers to the system of government originally established under Islam…Under the Caliphate…the head of state is the Caliph who governs in accordance with Islamic law…also known as Sharia…a major event or personality may reveal an overall leader for the position of Caliph.

      So…will the Tunisian Wind gain force and become an Islamist Storm…is it a major step to go from dictatorship to Sharia law…and an even to go from Sharia law to a Caliphate…but support for such a development seems widespread across the Middle East…Middle East use of democracy…is leading some in the West to envision Western-style democracies taking root…However…we should remember that under Sunni Islam…the Caliph is elected…A democratic restoration of the Caliphate may now be thinkable.

      Many people today are unaware of the long history of violent conflict between Europe and the Islamic Caliphate.

      If a regional Caliphate is established in the Middle East…it can have an effect on the collective identity of the Europeans…The trauma of those wars lies deep in the conscious of Europe’s history…It has been less than 300 years since Europe last faced the threat of Muslim invasion…a threat that was instrumental in the formation of a shared European identity throughout the Middle Ages…Now there is again a perceived and stated threat from Islamists…as Muslim extremists call for holy war and restoration of the Caliphate.

      Hassan al-Banna…the founder of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood…wrote (Andalusia [the Muslim name for Spain]…Sicily…the Balkans…south Italy…and the Roman sea islands were all Islamic lands that have to be restored to the homeland of Islam…it is our right to restore the Islamic Empire its glory)…If the Islamic Caliphate is restored…it can have an effect on Europe…The religious winds that are blowing across the Middle East can blow across Europe as well.

      For more than 30 years…an uneasy peace has been maintained between Egypt and Israel…But has it been a popular peace…We should remember that…because of his efforts for peace…Egypt’s Sadat was assassinated…by a group of Islamist nationalists associated with the Muslim Brotherhood…who are kept out of power…for now…by the Military leadership imposed on the country.

      God prophesied that in the decades just prior to Christ’s return…the Jews will have returned to Judea and Jerusalem…where they will be opposed by the surrounding nations… “In that day I will make the governors of Judah like a firepan in the woodpile, and like a fiery torch in the sheaves; they shall devour all the surrounding peoples on the right hand and on the left, but Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place—Jerusalem” (Zechariah 12:6)…
      In past decades…this remarkable prophecy has been fulfilled before our eyes.

      The Bible reveals that later in this same time period…a great religio-political power will arise…in Europe….the same Europe (North of Jerusalem) that was threatened by attacks from the Caliphate for more than a thousand years…This power will be an alliance of nations or groups of nations…(Daniel 2:31–46)…This power will be involved in a covenant that will allow the Jews to resume their sacrifices somewhere at or around the Temple Mount (Daniel 9:27; 11:31; 2 Thessalonians 2:4).

      Such a revival of this Jewish practice would galvanize Muslim opposition…yet preparations for those sacrifices are being made today by Orthodox Jews familiar with the ancient rituals.

      Biblical prophecy also reveals that a power will arise…to the south of Jerusalem ( either Saudi Arabia or Egypt will have this caliph leadership which controls the whole region )…that will “push at” or provoke this powerful king of the north…The northern power will defeat this king of the south powerfully…and in the process Jerusalem will be overrun and occupied (Daniel 11:40–45).

      Finally…when the Temple Mount sacrifices are stopped…the prophesied Great Tribulation will begin…culminating with the return of Jesus Christ.

      So a Caliphate will form in the region…it will cause a serious conflict…with a power far greater than its own…it will be completely defeated…so says the Bible.

      Personally…I am Going with What the Bible says.

  61. Ric says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 1:24 pm

    There are Brits who have started a pro-Trump petition. If one reads Brit papers, there are numerous Brits who back Trumps comment regarding Muslims. They, the Brits, are awash with Islamism, they more than many other nations realize that the UK is a cesspool of Islamist toxicity. There government, like most Western overlords, prefer to placate Islam as do all affected by the contagion of political-correctness and denial.

  62. richard courtemanche says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 3:14 pm

    Well, it’ll probably get higher still since I assume there’s at least 100,000 Muslims in the UK.

  63. Mathew Solo says

    Dec 10, 2015 at 4:24 pm

    If Mr. Trump can not exercise the right to speak freely…
    Even if he says the heck with speaking freely…
    Then who are those who dare to speak.

    Sticks and Stones may break our bones…
    Even if He does not speak softly…
    Who gets to use the Big Stick…

    I view what He has said as what He has said…even if He should change His mind He should be allowed to explain…modify…or completely change what He says…it should be still acceptable…This is after all what we expect for ourselves isn’t it…We are not perfect…we can expect to step on our own tongues from time to time without being hypocritically singled out…or worse still…made to feel we must
    stick with what was said…and apologies are still used…right.

    Now false witnessing…deliberately lying to harm someone…is a very wrong use of words…isn’t it.

  64. naty says

    Dec 11, 2015 at 12:15 pm

    please sign the petition not to ban Donald Trump if you live in UK
    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114907

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