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Police say SB shooter was “radicalized, which contributed to his motive”

Dec 3, 2015 12:20 pm By Robert Spencer

“It appears that Farook was radicalized, which contributed to his motive, though other things — like workplace grievances — may have also played a role, other law enforcement sources said.”

If Syed Farook appeared and said, “I did this because of the Qur’an and Sunnah,” authorities would still be searching for a motive.

SB shooting

“San Bernardino shooters die battling police; motive unknown,” by Kyung Lah, Ben Brumfield and Greg Botelho, CNN, December 3, 2015:

San Bernardino, California (CNN)[Breaking news update at 12:13 p.m. ET]

San Bernardino shooter Syed Rizwan Farook was in touch over the phone and via social media with more than one international terrorism subject who the FBI were already investigating, law enforcement officials said.

It appears that Farook was radicalized, which contributed to his motive, though other things — like workplace grievances — may have also played a role, other law enforcement sources said….

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  1. KUFFAR says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 12:24 pm

    Motive…???

    They’re muslim scum…

    And they have been told by their “book” that their duty is to “kill the unbelievers when ever you find them…”

    What better place than a Christmas party…

  2. Havoc says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 12:27 pm

    Close the Mosques. Deport the Muslims.

    • Jerry says

      Dec 5, 2015 at 4:34 am

      Amen

  3. ricardus maximus says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 12:33 pm

    This is something out of a Clive Barker Movie. Someone reads a book and they become radicalized or they are suddenly turned into zombies because they become infected with some contagion.

    • Godwin says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 12:32 am

      Possibly attached by an avenging/evil spirit.

  4. KrazyKafir says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 12:37 pm

    Why be cynical? It’s totally plausible that he was annoyed at his fellow workers and then recruited his wife with newborn child, and several of his friends, to spend weeks building IEDs and gather all the assault accouterments needed to address his workplace grievances. You people need pull you heads out of the sand.

    • gravenimage says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 5:48 pm

      Grimly hilarious.

  5. somehistory says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 12:39 pm

    ” Farook was in touch over the phone and via social media with more than one international terrorism subject who the FBI were already investigating”

    Not surprised at this.

  6. boakai ngombu says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 12:39 pm

    Farook was radicalized, which contributed to his motive, though other things — like workplace grievances — may have also played a role

    and so he decided upon the method of conflict resolution proscribed by the malevolent, belligerent allah god of islam ( unknowable; the best of all deceivers).

    You shall not murder … something Muhammad (lately contrived; full of ineluctable lust like other humans everywhere).

    • boakai ngombu says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 7:01 pm

      [should read] … something Muhammad … never learned. And he had no faith in The Way of the God of Abraham; he found no grace from the One able to save. this prophet (so called) is to be condemned for he knew not the forgiveness as was promised to Abraham.

  7. Mo says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 12:43 pm

    If time travel or some other method were possible to have Mohammad return, he could go on TV, read from the Koran (well, I guess recite it, since wasn’t he illiterate?) and explain Islam’s teachings personally, in detail, and people would STILL be saying “Islam is a religion of peace” and looking for “motives.”

  8. john spielman says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 12:47 pm

    I am SO SICK of the term ” RADICALIZED! This is NOT”RADICAL” islam, this is pure and simple basic islam with its works righteous theology that allows / encourages violence against unbelievers. The only way to be certain of earning enough good deeds to off set sins is to die in battle against unbelievers just like these people did!

    • Robert Button says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 1:05 pm

      No more “brownie points” (hasanat) required; this evil ideology/religion proscribes the reward of paradise immediately with no other requirements if one dies in Jihad. So Mr Farook gets the reward of multiple houris (virgins) to magically deflower repeatedly… what does his wife get?

    • PRCS says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 1:12 pm

      “I am SO SICK of the term ” RADICALIZED! This is NOT”RADICAL” islam, this is pure and simple basic islam”

      Wholeheartedly agree, sir.

      As it is presented and understood, colloquially (by liars, their useful idiots, and unfortunately–too many of our friends and neighbors), there is no such thing as “radical Islam”.

      Because there’s no Qur’an “lite”.

    • Ainu888 says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 2:02 pm

      Hi John, it took me forty years to realize this truth.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Dec 4, 2015 at 12:26 am

        better 40 years late than never, mate.

        I saw you posting in another thread where you identified yourself as an Indian studying in the USA?

        Welcome to jihadwatch. I am so glad you’ve found Mr Spencer’s “Hedge School for the Infidel Resistance”. (I’m from Australia and found Jihadwatch late in 2006; have been posting here since April 2007).

        Spread the word, raise the alarm, share what you’ve learned…especially amongst your fellow Indians, friends-and-relations, back home in Mother India.

      • Daniel Triplett says

        Dec 4, 2015 at 7:22 am

        Most of us will figure this out eventually, often by the early 40s. But it takes a lot of persuasion. That’s where people like you are important.

        There’s still a whole lot of fighting going on. Stage 3 is just getting started. There’s plenty for you to do. Take what you learn from this site and others, then spread the truth. Without military force, you’ll not likely cause any Muslims to apostatize. They’re a stubborn bunch. But you’re quite capable of educating the Useful Idiots to join our effort to save civilization.

        One day, a man with some power will catch wind of this, maybe with something you say, and be inspired to do big things, like criminalize Islam Worldwide.

        Twitter is a great tool that our enemy has used with great success as well. You can reach a Worldwide audience, without having to be “mutual friends” like on Facebook, which is why I
        Ike it better. Not everyone will take the time to read Facebook rants, but even celebrities and politicians will read 120 characters, especially if you attach a picture or link to an article.

        My Twitter account is @dantriplett if you want to check it out for some ideas on things you could say about the Counter-jihad, WWIII.

        Stay strong Brother, we have a big fight ahead of us.

        • simpleton1 says

          Dec 4, 2015 at 12:49 pm

          Farook had worshipped until about two years ago, mosque director Mustapha Kuko described him as quiet, private and devoted to Koran study.

          “He knows that we believe that to take one life is to take all life. So for him to do the opposite of what we as Muslims believe … I don’t know,” Kuko said.

          One victim, who worked in the same department as Farook, was also a member of the congregation, he said

          “He shot her,” Kuko said. “Point blank.”……..

          ………..Recently, Farook had worshipped at a San Bernardino mosque, Dar-Al-Uloom Al-Islamiyah of America. Farook was “a very nice person, very soft,” said Ali, a mosque regular. He said Farook had memorized the Koran, a rare accomplishment for even devout Muslims.

          http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-syed-farook-tashfeen-malik-shooters-san-bernardino-20151203-story.html

          So what was in the koran, as this poor, modern, educated, well-read, man struggled (jihad) to provide for his young family and then struggled with the koran.

          [5:33] On account of this, We prescribed for the children of Israel that whosoever killed a person — unless it be for killing a person or for creating disorder in the land — it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and who so gave life to one, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind. And Our Messengers came to them with clear Signs, yet even after that, many of them commit excesses in the land.
          this is only direction for the “children of Israel” the Jewish people, not specifically for muslims and even “disorder” is another out. So after being given the message and then continuing a things that are against islamic guidelines are excesses and does that include disorder?

          5:34] The reward of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive to create disorder in the land is only this that they be slain or crucified or their hands and their feet be cut off on alternate sides, or they be expelled from the land. That shall be a disgrace for them in this world, and in the Hereafter they shall have a great punishment;
          “wage war against Allah and His Messenger and strive to create disorder in the land” so what is war and disorder? could it be a cartoon? not dressed properly, alcohol, homosexuality, pork, a word against Mohammad the “perfect man”

          [5:35] Except those who repent before you have them in your power. So know that Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful.
          how is the disbeliever to repent? shut down free speech?, that is anything contrary to islam? and then when the muslims become more democratically numerous and powerful in numbers so importantly then issues from islamic thought must be put in place?

          [5:36] O ye who believe! fear Allah and seek the way of approach unto Him and strive in His way that you may prosper.
          so muslims must seek Allah and “strive” which is struggle in all things small and big, do like what Mohammad also did.

          [5:37] Surely, if those who disbelieve had all that is in the earth and as much over again, to ransom themselves therewith from the punishment of the Day of Resurrection, it would not be accepted from them; and they shall have a painful punishment.
          who is to dish out this punishment? as so many of the followers of Mohammad are guided by the “perfect man” and his companions in their sayings, practices and actions

          https://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=5&verse=32

          It is often said that quotes from the koran are out of context, though any one who is said to be muslim or in agreement seem to be able to pick and choose, which makes it all sound very nice.

          So I trust the series of verses that can be used to guide muslims more truly to their word, when an iman, sheik, mufti etc.wants.
          This gives the muslim a choice to decide whether they want to follow the words of Mohammad “the perfect man”.
          We need to expose koranic, hadiths, sunnah sira verses for the truth and deviousness for what they are, if we are to truly expunge islam.

          More importantly we then see what all the politicians, media and apologists sell to us,,,
          No !, not sell to us but then try to demand of us, an acquiescence.

          Many thanks to Robert Spenser and many others brilliantly stand out bringing out 101 islam. Bringing a big fight over many issues.
          We also need to learn and repeat key parts of koran knowing some chronologically ways so the “abrogation” verses can be exposed and their effect.
          Long live Free Speech in its entirety and in this long fight, may more full verses and islam be exposed, to the truth of what it is about..

  9. Tom says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 12:49 pm

    Robert: I’ll bet it is increasingly bitter sweet to be vindicated so often these days. You are a hero for your efforts here at Jihadwatch and will be celebrated and rewarded in our Christmas giving this year.

  10. Michael Copeland says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 1:10 pm

    “Radicalized”? Radicalized into what?
    Why, international terrorism, of course, and workplace grievances.
    It could happen to anyone.

    • PRCS says

      Dec 3, 2015 at 1:20 pm

      Michael,

      I know you are correct re: core, root and radix.

      Politicians and so-called “journalists”, however, present variations “radical Islam”, and it is understood by our fellow citizens, as the “tiny minority of extremists” meme.

  11. maks says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 1:39 pm

    Muslims are coming and their USA born children will kill us, our children and grandchildren. DON’T LET THEM COME !!!

    Federal Data: U.S. Annually Admits Quarter Of A Million Muslim Migrants
    http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/14/federal-data-u-s-annually-admits-quarter-of-a-million-muslim-migrants/

  12. Plutrachus says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 2:03 pm

    WHO WAS SYID FAROOK?

    Another radicalized American Moslem disillusioned with worldly life who found true Islam and decided to leave this empty world in a blaze of jihadist glory to please Allah dispenser of afterlife rewards.

    http://www.apollospeak

  13. Peggy says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 3:15 pm

    Poor dear, he is the victim of being radicalized.
    Fed up with traitors looking like pretzels trying to absolve these evil bastards.

  14. Angemon says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 5:39 pm

    San Bernardino shooters die battling police; motive unknown

    Battling and baffling, apparently…

  15. gravenimage says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 6:28 pm

    Police say SB shooter was “radicalized, which contributed to his motive”
    …………………

    It *contributed* to his motive? Yeah, and the other contribution was Bob in accounting, who didn’t cancel the order for mini pigs-in-a-blanket for the office Christmas party…

    • Peggy says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 4:21 am

      It was a Christmas party and he wasn’t expecting pork products there?
      Who is dumb enough to believe this?

  16. Neil says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 8:53 pm

    Being that Islam is a religion of peace, I’m sure all good Muslims won’t mind if Canada and the US make a law that clearly states that no Muslims can aquire a fire arm certificate or buy any gun legally in North America

  17. David A. Ray says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 9:11 pm

    I fail to understand why the news media cannot just call these two people Muslim terrorists. The motive is obvious. Their religion tells them that others who do not believe as they should die. Pretty simple stuff here. I am so sick of this political correctness crap, and the liberal desire to take guns away from law abiding citizens because of clowns like this. Sure, Obama is suggesting more gun laws but I did not hear a suggestion as to how he wanted to deal with the pipe bombs.

    • Carolyne says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 9:04 am

      Well, we could outlaw plumbing and pipes and use outdoor facilities and wash our clothes in the river, as done in Obama’s native country, Kenya.

  18. Undaunted says

    Dec 3, 2015 at 9:28 pm

    Some tips on how to spot those who are “radicalizing”…

    http://freemendo.typepad.com/undaunted/2010/03/this-bitch-jihad-jane——jihad-jane-aka-colleen-trailertrash-larose-jihadjane-licking-off-what-the-finger-bowl-missed.html

  19. Sabri S. says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 2:19 am

    No need for knee j erk reactions with this tragedy.
    This definitely is NOT real islam. The outpouring of
    Disgust and rebuke by the general muslim population
    Was welcomed…violence in the middle east and elsewhere
    Only begets worse violence elsewhere…horrible direction
    America is going right now…

    • Carolyne says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 9:10 am

      This is, indeed, the real Islam. Have you ever read your Koran? Do you wonder what it means by, “When you meet the infidel, strike his neck?” Honey, it means kill all people except Muslims. How about taking slaves? Mohammed himself had slaves and gave permission to his followers to take slaves of conquered peoples, after having killed the men. And pedophilia? Mohammed “married” a six year old girl and raped her when she was nine years old. There is too much immorality in Islam to list it all, but if you are Muslim and think this is not the real Islam, you are delusional.

      It is not America which is going in a horrible direction, it is the seventh century barbarians who are trying to destroy civilization. And that, my dear, is the real Islam.

  20. Mulakush says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 10:09 am

    It is fine to point fingers at the real culprit in this game, Islam itself. But what practical steps can an average person take to counter it? Given the blow back one gets on this topic, it is quite hard. The only person who seems to be able to stand up to the apologists is Donald Trump.

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