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Reuters: “Muslim Americans fear demonization of Islam after mass shooting”

Dec 4, 2015 9:01 am By Robert Spencer

This is a typical “backlash” story, of the kind that invariably appears after a jihad attack or foiled jihad plot. It attempts to deflect attention away from the jihad terror and onto Muslims as victims, their religion unfairly demonized. One bad apple shouldn’t be taken as spoiling the bunch, we’re told. “Two people’s actions do not constitute a whole population’s actions,” we’re reminded.

And of course that is true. But sidestepped here, as is always the case in these weepy creepy “backlash” stories, is the fact that Islamic jihadis can and do point to Islamic texts and teachings to justify their actions and make recruits among peaceful Muslims. No mention is made of the fact that Muslim clerics have been involved in jihad terror activity and have exhorted Muslims from the pulpit to commit acts of violence.

If Muslims really fear “backlash” and the “demonization of Islam,” they should be the first to act against such clerics, and would be working publicly and honestly to reform those teachings. Mosques and Islamic schools would be implementing programs to teach against the understanding of Islam that justifies hatred and violence. But “backlash” articles never deal with any of that — they’re all always just about how Muslims fear reprisal attacks. Meanwhile, FBI statistics show that anti-Semitic attacks are far more common than attacks against innocent Muslims. Yet you never see articles about that.

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“Muslim Americans fear demonization of Islam after mass shooting,” by Ben Klayman, Reuters, December 4, 2015 (thanks to Darcy):

DEARBORN, Mich. (Reuters) – Muslim Americans fear their religion will be demonized and Islamophobia will spread after a young Muslim couple was accused of carrying out one of the bloodiest mass killings in the United States.

Across the country, Muslim Americans responded with shock and outrage after a shooting in which authorities said Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27, stormed a holiday party attended by San Bernardino County employees in California on Wednesday, killing 14 people and wounding 21.

“I was at the gym yesterday while the shooting was taking place and all the TVs were showing that footage and all I could keep thinking to myself is ‘God, I hope they don’t have any Eastern descent, not just Middle Eastern, anything we’d associate with a Muslim’,” said Adam Hashem, 32, in Dearborn, a Detroit suburb with one of the country’s largest Muslim populations.

“We’re all worried. We’re all concerned,” he said.

It was the deadliest U.S. mass shooting since the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre three years ago. While the motivation remained unclear as authorities investigated the attack, details of Farook and Malik began to emerge. Farook was described as a second-generation American born in Illinois and raised by Pakistani parents. Malik was born in Pakistan and lived in Saudi Arabia until she was introduced to Farook.

San Bernardino police said they found pipe bombs and several thousands rounds of ammunition at the residence of the couple, who died in a shoot-out with police.

In Milwaukee, Wisconsin, the Attari Supermarket bustled on Thursday with customers shopping for Middle Eastern products.

“In every culture and in every religion there are bad apples that will spoil the rest of the apples. That has happened toward us,” said Dawod Dawod, a 25-year-old Muslim American, who manages the store that his family has owned for a decade.

Between taking orders over the phone, Dawod said he was concerned that politicians will use the mass shooting as a way to further demonize Muslims. He noted Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump’s endorsement of the idea of creating a Muslim database. “It’s scary.” he said. “Ninety-nine percent of Muslims are hardworking, good people.”

Muslim community groups condemned the massacre and urged the public not to blame Islam or Muslims.

“The Muslim community stands shoulder to shoulder with our fellow Americans in repudiating any twisted mindset that would claim to justify such sickening acts of violence,” said Hussam Ayloush, an executive director at the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

Within hours of the shooting, his group had organized a news conference with Los Angeles Muslim leaders and the brother of suspected shooter Malik to condemn the assault. The speed at which they went on live television underlined the depth of concerns in a community already buffeted by a rise in anti-Muslim rhetoric this year and increased public scrutiny after the Nov. 13 attacks in Paris that killed 130 people and were claimed by Islamic State militants….

Faizul Khan, 74, an Imam at the Islamic Society of the Washington Area, said he was “horrified” by the San Bernadino shooting. “Unfortunately people don’t understand that we as Muslims, we basically want to promote what is good and just for the entire humanity.”

He said he feared the shooting would strengthen calls to increase surveillance on mosques.

Achraf Issam, 22, national spokesman for the Ahmadiyya Muslim Youth Association in Silver Spring, Maryland, said it makes no more sense to say that Islam led to the San Bernardino shootings than to say Christianity led to an attack on the Planned Parenthood clinic in Colorado last week by a suspect police have named as Robert Lewis Dear.

“No one should say that because this couple is Muslim that it led them to commit those acts,” he said.

That sentiment was echoed by Sara Nabhan, 20, a junior majoring in biology at the University of Houston who was born in Jordan and came to Texas when she was 2 years old.

“Two people’s actions do not constitute a whole population’s actions,” she said.

Jersey City real-estate agent Magdy Ali, 52 and of Egyptian descent, said he uses the name Alex when working to avoid conflict with people who distrust Islam. He said he expects Trump to use Wednesday’s massacre to push for anti-Muslim measures such as monitoring of U.S. mosques.

“We are in a jam right now,” he said.

No, we are.

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  1. old white guy says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:04 am

    I have but one question for the followers of islam. that is, what do you do about the verses that say you can’t take infidels for friends or that you have to kill unbelievers? tell me, what do you do?.

    • john spielman says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 9:31 am

      even more troubling is that a recent poll of American muslims revealed that 50% were in favor of SHARIA LAW over us infidels and 18% were in favor of violence against us unbelievers. I can’t remember where that was published perhaps Robert Spencer knows

      • BlueHawK says

        Dec 4, 2015 at 10:10 am

        And That was only the honest ones! 8-(

      • Wiser Monkeys says

        Dec 4, 2015 at 10:51 am

        You can find summaries of Muslim opinion poll data through the following links (for the UK and world respectively):
        http://wisermonkeys.uk/muslimopinion.html
        http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/Opinion-Polls.htm

    • blitz2b says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 11:47 am

      The problem with the “moderate” Muslims is that they want to have their cake and eat it too….
      Not one of them want to admit that there is stuff in the Koran that incites violence towards the kuffar, yet all of them will complain about drastic non existent backlash.

    • خَليفة says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 12:29 pm

      What do Muslims do about these attacks? Nothing but claim further victim hood.

      As an experiment lets substitute some words:

      Drug dealers fear their occupation will be demonized and anti-drug movement will spread after a couple of young pushers were accused of largest drug deal.

      Burglulars fear their trade will be demonized and security cameras installed all over towns after couple accused of largest heist in years.

      Pedophiles fear demonization and better security at playgrounds after couple accused in largest child-porn ring.

      Islam is the demon. Those who defend the demon are evil.

  2. GuntherL says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:07 am

    When Isis started committing their crimes, muslims were worried that their religion wasn’t represented correctly. Personally, I would be worried about people being raped or decapitated.
    Now, their major concern is the demonization of their, wait for it…, religion. Do these people give a fuck about anything else?

    • Janakiraman Rajalakshmi says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 11:17 am

      I am as baffled as you are. But this is exactly how muslims all over react. After every brutal killings , many muslims complain their religion has been hijacked & that it stands for peace. And keep repeating they would be punished in afterlife. They know this kind of mock outrage alone is enough to con all suckers.
      By expressing faux condolences these muslims are only rubbing salt in our wounds.

      China punished the entire family of these muslim terrorists recently. This would be effective in families of terrorists monitoring their movements instead of lying ” we had no idea….we are as shocked as you are…my brother(s) is so gentle , so good could not have been a terrorist..yada yada”.

      When they are so preoccupied with life after death what business do they have continuing to exist in this world ?

  3. underbed cat says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:12 am

    Con men….skilled and masters of deception and media attention.

    • underbed cat says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 9:20 am

      “Misdirection” to decieve the infidel is right out of the koran, also ” permissible lying ok by allah, which if the public knew they would have a hard time watching CAir appear to misdirect and worry about backlash, or listen to Obama.

  4. jihad3tracker says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:14 am

    CAIR HEADQUARTERS IN WASHINGTON DC COORDINATES THIS “BACKLASH” CRAP — TELLING WHICH CHAPTERS TO START SHAKING & WAILING.

    NIHAD AWAD IS TOO STUPID TO REALIZE THAT NO AMERICANS OTHER THAN THE INBRED LEFT ACTUALLY BELIEVE WHAT MUSLIM LIARS SAY.

  5. Singh the Sikh says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:18 am

    Islam is demonizing itself, and doing an excellent job at that.

    • Truth says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 9:53 am

      You’re absolutely correct.

  6. pongidae rex says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:18 am

    Nazi Germany was just a few bad apples who got a lot of publicity. Most of the followers of Nazi ideology were nice German people who would invite you into their home and offer you a meal.

    It is the ideology, fools.

    • Alex Christie says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 9:29 am

      No. If Moslems now have a bad image that is due to their folly. They are the fools.

    • Dan says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 10:11 am

      You’re being sarcastic right?

      Those “few bad apples” had enough support to take the whole world to war.

      Louis Farrakhan is a bad apple with a lot of publicity. (So far, because as far as we know he hasn’t lopped somebody’s head off, or is helping or hiding murderers.)

      The Muslim Brotherhood, and Islamists ARE lopping heads off. And C.A.I.R. is helping those involved.

      It’s the ideology?

      Fine then let’s make sure we ground stomp every single person who acts upon that ideology.

      And put all their friends and family under a microscope because “Birds of a feather” and all those cliches.

    • Dan says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 10:28 am

      The Nazis were just a “few” bad apples?

      Define “few” cause there were enough to take the world to war.

      And the vast majority of the German people supported the war by building bombs and guns and supplies for the war machine.

      If they were just regular folks, then why weren’t they sabotaging the Nazis efforts?

      These “few” Islamists are even worse because Nazis sure didn’t have guerrilla groups here slaughtering people.

      “Bad apples with a lot of p.r.” are people like Louis Farrakhan. Because unless he’s loping off heads and building bombs, or aiding people doing such, he’s just a blowhard.

      Islamists ARE doing that, and C.A.I.R. is helping promote the cause, or cover up, so how about we just shoot all the people who act upon this “ideology?”

      • Krampus says

        Dec 4, 2015 at 12:56 pm

        The op was being sarcastic. He was joking. It was plainly obvious

  7. gerard says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:19 am

    “demonization of Islam” How can you demonise what is already clearly Demonic?

    • Don McKellar says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 9:35 am

      Well, there’s the question! Of course, in the classical sense, demonic beings or demonic possession is always about deception of one sort or another. Just like Islam. It’s all about deception. That’s why moslems hate Jihad Watch so much — it is all about ripping away the deception and speaking to truth about Islam, the Islamic texts, and the underlying motivations behind these things. In a sense, Robert Spencer is an exorcist.

  8. gerard says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:25 am

    ““The Muslim community stands shoulder to shoulder with our fellow Americans in repudiating any twisted mindset that would claim to justify such sickening acts of violence,”
    BS! You stand shoulder to shoulder with Mohammad whose example the Jihadists follow.

  9. Jay Boo says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:31 am

    There is no need to “demonize” Islam.
    Islam is founded on demonic buffoonery.

    A talking donkey told the jackass from Mecca that he was a prophet.
    The jackass believed what the talking donkey told him and called their intimate conversation the Qur’an.
    One and a half billion is the approximate number of Qur’an crazy jackasses currently roaming the world without a harness or leash.

    — The tragic death of Muhammad’s donkey Ya’foor
    http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/yafoor.htm
    http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/yafoor.htm
    —————————————————————————————
    (Not to be confused with Buraq, the donkey that MO mounted on his night journey to Hades.)

    • Jay Boo says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 9:35 am

      Second link (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt4-xMA704M)

      • Jay Boo says

        Dec 4, 2015 at 12:33 pm

        Oops I forgot to note that the second link to Salah’s crossmuslims website so those familiar with that website will know it is hilarious.

    • wallace says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 12:12 pm

      Buraq might have been Yafoor’s brother from another ass, the world of Islam is truly wondrous.

      • Jay Boo says

        Dec 4, 2015 at 12:30 pm

        I wonder if Buraq the donkey has taken a human like appearance and become POTUS.

        No wonder the donkey is the symbol of the Democratic Party.

  10. gerard says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:32 am

    “Two people’s actions do not constitute a whole population’s actions,”
    But… Two people’s ideology can constitute a whole population’s ideology.

  11. Georg says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:36 am

    That the Muslims’ focus of ire after these attacks is always the non-Muslim perception and not the Muslim provocation betrays the primal Islamic animus so many non-Muslims prefer to do without.

  12. Jaladhi says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:38 am

    Muslims do a great job of demonizing themselves and yet they point finger to us. If they just stop murdering us and terrorizing us in other ways then maybe they won’t have to resort to this false narrative.

  13. Jay Boo says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:53 am

    The photo is a reminder that Muslims are expert at putting on a song and dance display.

    ( “…, do not look somber as the hypocrites do, for they disfigure their faces to show others …” )

  14. Beckwith says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:55 am

    If Muslims stopped shooting, slashing and blowing us up they’d have nothing to worry about.

    I can document dozens of deadly Muslim attacks and mass murders resulting in the deaths of thousands of Americans.

    Show me where there has ever been any retribution on Muslims.

    This concern is bullshit. Muslims will continue to slaughter Americans and Muslims will continue to cry about being demonized.

  15. Mirren10 says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:56 am

    “I was at the gym yesterday while the shooting was taking place and all the TVs were showing that footage and all I could keep thinking to myself is ‘God, I hope they don’t have any Eastern descent, not just Middle Eastern, anything we’d associate with a Muslim’,” said Adam Hashem, 32 … ”

    “We’re all worried. We’re all concerned,” he said”

    And what are they all ‘worried and concerned’ *about* ? That the murderers wouldn’t be associated with *muslims*. Not a word about their *supposedly* fellow citizens, murdered, just ”I hope they don’t have any Eastern descent …”

    Typical muslim attititudes.

    ”Faizul Khan, 74, an Imam at the Islamic Society of the Washington Area …. Unfortunately people don’t understand that we as Muslims, we basically want to promote what is good and just for the entire humanity.”

    In other words, he wants sharia.

    ”He said he feared the shooting would strengthen calls to increase surveillance on mosques.”

    If muslims are such upright, hardworking citizens, so patriotic, why fear surveillance of mosques ? What are they worried about ?

    And again;

    ”Jersey City real-estate agent Magdy Ali, 52 and of Egyptian descent … He said he expects Trump to use Wednesday’s massacre to push for anti-Muslim measures such as monitoring of U.S. mosques.”

    If they have nothing to hide, why aren’t they welcoming law enforcement into their mosques ?

    • ? says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 10:43 am

      But the truth is, that they do in fact, have something to hide.

  16. Beagle says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:58 am

    “Two” people? What the heck? Two in Garland. 83 IS supporters this year. One shot the recruiters. And so on…

    It’s the cumulative nature of Islamic brutality which sets it apart.

  17. epistemology says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 10:05 am

    Robert is right. We’re in the jam. But the poor muzzies are victimised. Boohoo

    “Two people’s actions do not constitute a whole population’s actions,” Right, but you have to see that in context. Muzzie killers and suicide bomber always claim Islam and they’re right to do so. “Kill the infidels wherever you find them” says the unholy Koran. Comparing that with the attacker of the planned parenthood clinic is simply preposterous.

  18. Jayke says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 10:57 am

    First of all I try not to use any of this demonic religion’s words. The so-called “Ninety-nine percent” of Mohammedans who are supposedly “good people” … (which I doubt as most of them may be waging a stealth warfare or playing good cop bad cop) … They are actually bad Mohammedans because they are not obeying their “prophet” who commands them to kill and be killed.

  19. Boston Tea Party says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 11:24 am

    Headline: “Muslim community fears anti-Islamic backlash may follow tomorrow’s planned train bombing.”

  20. SIngh the SIkh says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 11:24 am

    Backlash against Muslims? How many dead or injured?

    • Krampus says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 2:01 pm

      Non. They received a few angry emails and negative facebook posts.

      Not to worry. Lynch just announced she will actively prosecute anti muslim rhetoric.

      dailywire.com/news/1593/loretta-lynch-vows-prosecute-those-who-use-anti-james-barrett

  21. Edwin1683 says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 11:55 am

    They are showing their true colours. Zero concern for the victims. Their first and only focus is on fears for themselves. Their constant whining after each atrocity is forming a pattern that more and more people will surely have to start recognizing for what it is. Otherwise we truly are fools.

  22. Jay Boo says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 11:56 am

    Just heard on NPR “The way to defeat ISIS is to welcome refugees”

    • Krampus says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 12:41 pm

      NPR needs to be cut of public funding.

      The amount of bs I heard this morning from npr was enough to convince me that they are engaged in Soviet style propaganda

  23. Jay Boo says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 12:08 pm

    Better to demonize than allow them to victimize.

    Watch out for payback time from Muslims who are ungrateful.
    Obama is very wise on so called refugee agencies.
    Muslims always bite the hand that feeds them
    Obama is giving funds to Christian and at least one Jewish organization.
    But when the money flow stops flowing and the financial burden grows from ungrateful Muslims full of entitlement there will be a back lash not against Obama but against the organizations he suckered into taking a bad bet.

  24. Infidels of the world unite says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 12:23 pm

    WOW! You infidels only lost your lives, but us Muslims are facing DEMONIZATION! How terrible!
    This is gross. Made me want to spew – throw up – vomit – disgorge – whatever you call it.

  25. Jay Boo says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 12:27 pm

    Shame on all of you Islamophobes with your “The glass is half empty” thinking.

    Remember and be reassured that half of all Muslims DO NOT want to kill us.
    That is at least 50 % — Yahoo!

    Trump’s comment that after 911 Muzzies were dancing on rooftops in celebration backed up by liberal Dan Rather.
    http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2015/12/03/trump_validated_by_dan_rather

  26. Doug says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 12:31 pm

    “If we are practicing muslims, we are above the law of the land.” -Mustafa Carroll, Director, CAIR Texas, USA.

    “We will use your democracy to destroy your democracy.”
– Syrian born cleric, Omar Bakri Mohammed

    “Ultimately, we (Muslims) can never be full citizens of this country…because thee is no way we can be fully committed tot he institutions and ideologies of this country.” -Ihsan Bagby, -CAIR

  27. vlparker says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 12:31 pm

    How can one demonize a religion whose prophet was a mass murderer, child rapist and sex slave trader? Islam demonizes itself by its very existence. Muslims demonize themselves by belonging to it.

  28. somehistory says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 12:37 pm

    If the barrel is rotten, infested with decay, every apple coming from the barrel will be rotting. Like some apples are rotting from inside and don’t show on the peel…the skin of the apple…and it takes someone experienced with the fruit to know for what to look, it takes people with knowledge and experience to spot the liars, those rotting from the inside, those hiding the truth about islam.

    islam is synonymous with terror. The teaching of islam means lying about everything in order to further the spread of the demonic, the wild beast, orders from satan.

    There is no *reform* possible. An entirely new *religion* would have to be established as those adhering to the teachings of the raper of children, the mass murderer, will not allow anyone to keep living that attempts to *reform* that which is rotten from the core.

    Reform is not possible. “That which is crooked, cannot be made straight (Ecc. 1:15),” King Solomon wrote so very many years ago.
    One bad apple in a barrel may be the only bad apple and when removed, the other apples can be wiped clean and still be good for eating.
    The barrel of islam is rotten. Any apples in that barrel have the rottenness coming from the inside, from the barrel and from all of the other apples in the barrel. Solitary apples may be saved from rot if they wish to be saved, but the barrel is not fit to be saved.

  29. Krampus says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 12:38 pm

    dailywire.com/news/1593/loretta-lynch-vows-prosecute-those-who-use-anti-james-barrett

    Lynch “vows to prosecute those who use anti muslim speech”.

  30. Mo says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 12:45 pm

    The title was enough. These sob stories enrage me. These hypocritical leftists have no problem demonizing conservatives, Christians, and other “undesirables”.

    First of all, there never IS any backlash! Where is it now? It should’ve happened already, especially in Paris, There’s been plenty of time for Muslims to be dragged out of their homes and beaten or homes vandalized or such things. I’ve heard nothing of that sort happening, certainly not on a mass scale.

    It’s been what, two days here? If there was something going to happen, it would happen in the heat of the moment, before people’s attentions get put elsewhere by the latest Hollywood gossip. I’ve heard of nothing.

    Most importantly, if Muslims don’t like being “demonized”, maybe they should committing or actively supporting demonic acts, and then being silent when their coreligionists commit them!

    Where are the mass protests from that Huge Minority of Moderate Muslims?

    I’m still waiting!

    • Jay Boo says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 12:57 pm

      While (“two wrongs may not make a right.”) it would still be better than the total surrender in submission by those who refuse to at least stand up and fight.

    • Krampus says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 2:06 pm

      The backlash has amounted to a few angry emails sent to mosques.

    • خَليفة says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 6:55 pm

      The is how the West, time and time again, consistently proves they are orders of magnitude more civilized than the savage, barbaric Muslims. The west writes letters, and draws cartoons, whereas muslims try to blow people up, behead them or rape them. The west forgives – Muslims hold grudges for centuries. The kuffar ( USA, France, Germany, Sweden, et alii ) provide hundreds of millions of dollars in aid to Muslims, Muslims only help other Muslims.

      Civilized is as civilized does – it is blatantly obvious how barbaric and savage Islam is. To say otherwise is to acknowledge the Emporor’s new clothes.

      The only good Muslim is an ex-Muslim.

    • abad says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 8:04 pm

      Therein lies the problem.

      No one is born Muslim.

      One must convert to Islam, making a conscious choice to convert.

      Why anyone would convert to Islam is beyond me.

      There are better things in life, there really are.

      The smart Muslims will leave their Satanic religion behind and convert to Christianity. And as they turn away (repent) from Islam they will become fully human and even develop a sparkle in their eyes.

      The Dead eyes of Islam will disappear forever.

      • Infidels of the world unite says

        Dec 5, 2015 at 1:00 am

        Well, some are forced to convert, facing death threat, etc. Others have muslim parents and have been fed this idealogy since birth (and their parents forbid them to convert to other religions). That’s how islam is spread

    • H says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 8:37 pm

      Actually, ,there was a lot of backlash in France and still is but mainly from the government. Lockdown happened and they raided lots of muslim homes. They shut down 3 mosques and plan to shut down more.

      http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/03/world/europe/france-shuts-down-three-mosques-and-four-muslim-prayer-rooms.html?_r=0
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/religious-liberties-under-strain-for-muslims-in-france/2015/11/22/83054c06-912f-11e5-befa-99ceebcbb272_story.html

  31. saturnine says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 1:56 pm

    In every culture and in every religion there are bad apples that will spoil the rest of the apples.

    Banal Muslim deflection and denial.

    “When there’s this many bad apples, there’s something wrong with the orchard.”

  32. ballotcode says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 1:58 pm

    “No one should say that because this couple is Muslim that it led them to commit those acts,” he said.

    Yet, isn’t this the motivation?
    Denying that Mohamedans want to set the west on fire is denying the truth.

  33. traci94 says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 2:24 pm

    Do they ever show concern for the victims of these attacks?

    • Bezelel says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 5:27 pm

      traci94, Showing concern for victims may appear that they accept that there was something wrong with the harm caused and muslims can’t do that. They celebrate the harm to innocent people though.

    • Ross says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 7:21 pm

      Do they show concern for the victims. Oh, yes, certainly. It’s self-preservation – muslims living in the West SHOW concern, sometimes, but feel nothing. The show is purely self-interest – because they know if they don’t they’ll look like even bigger douches than they are.

    • abad says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 8:09 pm

      No.

      If they did, Muslims would possess empathy, a conscience.

      Two qualities that make one human.

  34. Lucretius says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 2:53 pm

    Is there any website where practicing Muslims, who may be having pangs of conscience about the anti-kafir teachings in their mosques, can go to tell their stories without risk to themselves? If not, perhaps we should get together to promote such a site. Having a place where all this denial and deflection is laid down in a moment of conscience pricked honesty may be important as public confession therapy, and would also help counter this backlash-babble denial strategy.

  35. Angemon says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 3:00 pm

    Muslim Americans fear demonization of Islam after mass shooting

    No “demonization” taking place – just an objective view into islamic orthodoxy.

    • mortimer says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 7:22 pm

      Doctrine of the Kafir

      When the Koran demonizes non-Muslims, this is called ‘the Doctrine of the Kafir’.

      In the Koran, KAFIRS are called the worst of beasts, unclean, deaf, blind, dumb, diseased, wrong-doers, donkeys, sons of apes and swine, falsifiers, dogs, cattle, perverse, without intelligence, deluded, friends of satan. That together is ‘demonization’. The Koran itself demonizes non-Muslims…kafirs.

      Modern Muslims realize their obligation to hate KAFIRS:

      “Jews and Christians who do not follow the Prophet Muhammad are kuffaar. They will go to Hell.”
      –Grand Mufti Saudi Arabia 2006
      “The word kaffir is a very pejorative, negative, disparaging term. When you call someone a kaffir, they are not worthy to be associated with.”
      –Dr. Taj Hargey, Muslim Educational Centre of Oxford
      “Kaffir, the worst word that can be written, a sign of infidelity, disbelief, FILTH, a sign of dirt.”
      –Sheikh Feiz, Saudi imam
      “The Fatwa Council states Jews and Christians are both kuffar (apostates) and mushrikeen (polytheists)
      kuffar because they deny and reject the truth, mushrikeen because they worship someone other than Allah.”
      –Islamqa.com

      Islam is in a permanent state of war with Kafirs, because, as the Koran explains, the Jews have corrupted their texts (3:78), and the Christians have forgotten much of their message (5:14). Both have thus chosen not to follow the true path and are therefore not innocent. – Anjem Choudary

      Killing a Kafir who is fighting you is OK. Killing a Kafir for any reason, you can say, it is OK – even if there is no reason for it. You can poison, ambush and kill non-believers. You must have a stand with your heart, with your tongue, with your money, with your hand, with your sword, with your Kalashnikov. Don’t ask shall I do this, just do it.
      Abu Hamza al-Masri
      (Egyptian born British Cleric)

      FINALLY…

      In using the word ‘kafir’, a Muslim reveals his awareness of the dualistic Islamic doctrine that divides humanity into two groups of which one is destined to enslave the other. To a Muslim, ‘kafir’ is the worst word in human language. Allah hates Kafirs, so Muslims should hate them too. A Kafir is hated, not because of his character—he may be a highly ethical and cultured person—but because he does not believe Mohammed is a valid prophet of god. To a Muslim, ‘kafir’ is a more vicious cuss word and personal insult than the ‘n’-word is in English! ‘Kafir’ means all the following bad things and more… ‘an antagonist’, ‘a wrecker’, ‘an obstructionist’, ‘a denier’, ‘a spoiler’, ‘a hinderer’, ‘a saboteur’, ‘a vandal’, ‘a low, worthless person’, and ‘a sly, underhanded criminal’. Allah commands in the Koran that a Kafir may be robbed, enslaved, raped, mocked, insulted, cursed, tortured, crucified, killed, lied to and plotted against. By using that word, a Muslim shows why he believes abusing, exploiting and killing Kafirs is pleasing to his angry, capricious deity.

    • abad says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 8:12 pm

      Islam is self-demonized as it is.

      Why would Muslims in the USA “fear” about their religion being demonized by non-Muslims?

      Once again, Muslims are trying to play the victim card instead of doing serious introspection (which unfortunately is forbidden in the Quran, like alcohol and pork is) about the true nature of their religion.

  36. Hope says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 3:26 pm

    “We’re all worried. We’re all concerned.” Worried and concerned for whom, you might ask? Why for THEMSELVES, of course. Everything is about them! These people have no empathy for anyone but themselves. Their religion teaches them that the rest of us are descended from apes and pigs. WAKE UP, AMERICA!

    • Lee says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 6:33 pm

      Great comment Hope – Muslims *never* say they’re worried for the safety of non-Muslims, even with so many supporters of Muhammad’s jihad around. They *never* publicly renounce jihad – they can’t of course, while remaining Muslims.

      So there’s no point ever listening to a Muslim, because they’re part of the war against humanity that Muhammad declared as central to his death-cult. Being at war, they will naturally tell any lie to advance Muhammad’s cause, and their sympathies are clearly only with people on *their side*.

      I wonder it it would help public understanding of Islam if it were constantly referred to in its English translation ‘Submission’ – in the way journalists continually change “Allah” to “God”. E.g. Muslims will then be quoted saying “I hope this doesn’t give Submission a bad name” etc.

    • Dave J says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 9:42 pm

      Seriously. The most devout Muslims are the most psychopathic.

      If this was an invasion from outer space most countries would unite to defeat such an alien philosophy.

      But because this smarmy death cult dresses itself up as a legitimate religion (and demands all the respect and financial advantages of one) it seems to have warped our powers of observation.

      They declared war on us and are violently acting on it, we are the deer in the headlights asking for interfaith dialog.

      Unfortunately the terrible leverage of terror strategy where the advantage of asymmetrical and surprise attacks on symbolic targets lies exclusively with the savages.

  37. Kaleb says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 3:28 pm

    That Muslims should be bemoaning demonization on the part of non-Muslims when their own Qur’an and their hadiths demonize the whole wide non-Muslim world is THE stomach-turning irony.

  38. don vito says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 4:36 pm

    The fear of the backlash hasn’t been effective. The backlash may have to become reality.

  39. Singh the Sikh says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 4:54 pm

    It would seem the backlash is against the kafir – after all they are the ones being mowed down in the name of Allah.

  40. Julia says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 4:55 pm

    How insensitive! The bodies aren’t even in the ground yet, and Muslims are already whining about their own self interests. Makes them look BAD.

    Muslims are going about an image makeover by trying to circumvent natural laws of cause and effect. OF COURSE people are going to be angry and suspicious of a religion that is the inspiration of so much violence. It’s only natural and adaptive to do so. They are essentially demanding that we all rewire our brains to accommodate them, and when we don’t, we’re called BAD people.It’s outrageous.

    If Muslims had any integrity on this issue, they would change hearts and minds about Islam through actions that would lead us to logically trust them. They would cooperate with the FBI, they would report extremists, they would show some empathy towards people who are mistrustful of Islam instead of demonizing them. Religion is a choice. If someone chooses to identify as a member of a community that is the greatest threat to world peace, then part of the burden is accepting that you are not going to be the most popular kid on the block at this point in history. If they don’t like it, they need to take major actions to SHOW non-Muslims that their religion is good. I see none of that, just a lot of manipulation and tribal loyalty that makes all followers of Islam reprehensible in my mind, even the ones that aren’t blowing stuff up. Why on earth would I “respect” this culture or religion when I’ve been given no logical reasons to do so from its followers?

    • Mathew Solo says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 8:02 pm

      The photo with this article is creepy.

      Having this Islam taught from birth can be a very powerful form of brainwashing…to be forced to practice it insures it will not wear off…making it obligatory in public for a show of reciting mindless gibberish is a strong social infliction…to not allow a private search for God is monstrous at best.

      A Social System Based On This can produce citizens that outwardly seem complacent but inwardly have hard hearts and damaged minds.

  41. Isabellathecrusader says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 5:15 pm

    The only thing the Muslims are concerned about, aside from what you THINK about them, is that we all may tell the truth about their motives and their culpability in every jihad attack against westerners. They truly are like a five year old who gets embarrassed when he’s caught with his hand in the cookie jar. Better to pitch a fit and cry about how mean we are rather than admit to the crummy thing he’s doing. But there is an Achille’s heel in that behavior and we need to attack it. Loretta Lynch can’t put all of us in jail for pointing this out.

  42. Joseph says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 6:02 pm

    The ONLY lament that the followers of Islam will show is that 2 more Muslims are dead.
    Watch for EXACTLY what they say and how they say it.
    Like politicians they are masters at lying.

  43. Wellington says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 6:08 pm

    Crybabies. It’s always about them. Fitting though since their founder was a narcissist.

  44. Kristin says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 6:09 pm

    The fact that this guy’s first thought when he heard of the shooting is that he hoped the shooters weren’t Muslims speaks volumes. Why would he associate a mass shooting with Islam if it’s such a peaceful religion? Islam needs to be classified for what it is, a hate group and cult bent on terror, death and destruction. And once again, they are the victims, not the 14 people who are dead. Unbelievable.

  45. SpiritOf1683 says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 6:15 pm

    There’s one thing which terrifies Muslims, and it is the day when we finally start telling the truth. When that will be is anyones guess, just as what it will take to get the West to tell the truth.

    • Wellington says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 7:07 pm

      Yes, Spirit, truth and Islam are not a good mix, to put it mildly. To put it less mildly, truth and Islam are mortal enemies of one another.

      By now one knows this or should know it. No third defensible alternative exists.

  46. Infidela says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 6:23 pm

    Islam has already been demonised for a very long time now, and rightly so.

  47. TJFreedomjihad@yahoo.com says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 6:27 pm

    If they don’t want to be demonized, how about they be apostates, and at the same time for safety, wear the Star of David, on their American style clothing. Oh, and be clean shaven, no kafia, no flying carpet, no ass in the sky, no long dress, no niquab, hijab, etc., no sign of any muslim, mussleman, mohammet ism, etc. whatever. Oh yes, use toilet paper, and shake with he right hand, forthrightly, and keep friendship with true Americans. (Not follow the admonition to not mix with the kafirs!!!!) And only the apostate gets to wear the Star of David, this time.

    This solves the disgusting comments of the deceitful white guy (soul seller), supposed atty. progressive liberal for the perpetrators family presser, full of misdirection, taqiyya, kitman, and such of laughable insane defensiveness (who is paying the attys. and with what money, from what source?) here from below cited article:

    Farook’s father said, “He was very religious. He would go to work, come back, go to pray, come back.” Neighbors say that he “grew a beard and started to wear religious clothing. The long shirt that’s like a dress and the cap on his head.” This is a virtual airtight circumstantial evidence confession…….

    http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2015/12/protecting-ourselves-from-next-peaceful.html

    Actually the perp. family’s presser was virtually identical to all the top mafia, and other criminal guilty gang crook’s pressers. Everyone knew nothing and everyone is so innocent, they are “shocked, shocked, shocked, I say!!!!!!!”

    They of course are figuring that all dumb Christian like, therefore all stupid, Americans who are all easily deceived, not even suspicious, let alone know damn well what is really going on.

    Where appropriate, sarc/off.

    Take wise counsel, THEN SAID HE UNTO THEM, “BUT NOW, HE THAT HATH A PURSE, LET HIM TAKE IT AND LIKEWISE HIS PACK; AND HE THAT HATH NO SWORD, LET HIM SELL HIS GARMENT AND BUY ONE. — Luke 22:36

    “Disguise, I see thou art an enemy…” William Shakespeare, Twelfth Night.

    Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. People reap what they sow. –Galatians 6:7

  48. Edward says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 6:44 pm

    “We are in a jam right now” said the New Jersey real estate agent.

    Backlash is inevitable…..there is a limit as to what a human being will tolerate….when someone is faced with corporal suffering or psychological duress. The Muslim’s world backlash to their people is their own doings. To begin with, all non-Muslim will continue to counter their religious theology that professes annihilation, which is openly professed by their theological books and by mouth. Adding to our distain also for the Muslim world is the Middle East’s culture that has always condoned the absent respect towards the dignity or ownership boundaries of others.

    The Islamic world seeks the grand title to be “the religion of peace”, which is only achieved when all those that counter their Muslim culture propagation are in the path of extinction; just to appease their god!

    What can the Muslim world expect from non-Muslim’s ……Utter CONTEMPT of the Muslim’s own disrespect of the lives of others!

    Our prayers to the innocent victims that met their untimely fate that was perpetrated by the Islamic based Jihadists terrorists in California!

  49. mortimer says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 6:46 pm

    ALERT! THEY ATTACKED A CHRISTMAS PARTY!!! DO YOU ALL GET THAT? A CHRISTMAS PARTY!

    “Syed Rizwan Farook, 28, and Tashfeen Malik, 27, stormed a holiday party (read “CHRISTMAS PARTY”) attended by San Bernardino County employees in California on Wednesday, killing 14 people and wounding 21.”

  50. Reta Cherry says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 6:47 pm

    They don’t have to be demonized, they ARE demons. Which is why Muslim Hussein has the power to pull a lot of smoke and mirrors on everyone.
    The Evil Black Magic Of Islam
    Prophecy is the future. Rev 1, is where John was exiled on the Isle of Patmos and the future was revealed to him.
    Revelation 13:14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast, which had the wound by a sword, and did live.
    (Which group of people are popular for using a sword?)
    ISIS, alqaeda, Daesh, or whatever name you call these terrorists, makes no difference.
    IT’S ALL A SICKNESS OF EVIL BLACK MAGIC AND WITCHCRAFT! (And who’s lives are being sacrificed?) The Children of God, which are called Christians, and also the Jews.
    Liberalism is just a mental disease, and a bridge for the witchcraft evils of
    ISLAM to cross over to trash beautiful countries. They run through nations,
    shutting down their history and their cultures, like a bunch of locusts leaving
    behind nothing but bones.Prayers are with our Patriots who are doing what they
    have to do, as our POTUS forces Invasions of terrorists on us, who get away with
    pretending to be refugees. Islam is a very deceptive cult. They have a
    “moderate muslim” lower branch of their witchcraft cult, that goes ahead, to countries to forge the way for their jihad, and deceive the people. The “Modern Muslim” crap don’t cut it either. They join our churches and clubs, and pretend to be our friends. They lie to us just like Obama did, when he became POTUS. Thousands of “moderate muslims” celebrated and had parties, when the the wtc came down. In Islam it is okay to lie to stregthen Islam.
    WITCHCRAFT LIES! They send their money and donate to their jihad back home.
    Islam is an evil WITCHCRAFT cult, that sacrifices humans to allah (Satan the
    devil) by burning, beheading or killing any way they want. They cut off toes,
    fingers, feet, and the louder you scream the better allah likes it. They tie up the man of the house, and force him to watch them gang rape his wife and kids, then they kill them (while
    he’s watching) then they rape the corpses, then they eat the sacrificed corpses. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMaKI5y85LE
    No other cult or tribe has ever been this filthy or vile. They are more
    barbaric and more filthy than the hogs and pigs they HATE.

    • Edward says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 7:58 pm

      Here are 3 websites that support your comment. It has been written of the Muslim’s world expertise in mind control also, which is especially practiced when they are involved in diplomatic negations and most likely when radicalizing new jihadi recruits.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_witchcraft

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witchcraft#Islam

      http://blackmagicworld.com/black-magic-in-muslim-countries.html

    • guide inside says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 8:18 pm

      Very good! My take is that all Muslims ,ALL Muslims, from birth to death have the demon gene, DNA, bad seed, sickness, etc. I’m not talking about race or ethnicity. I’m talking about the SPIRITUAL DNA! Because of your acceptance of Islam in any form and possibly even being born into a MUSLIM FAMILY there is a spiritual hole in your spirit you could drive a Mack truck thru. Of course you can grow up in a nice family in the USA or any other country but that spiritual Achilles heel is waiting. Any comment?

  51. TJFreedomjihad says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 6:52 pm

    If they don’t want to be demonized, how about they be apostates, and at the same time for safety, wear the Star of David, on their American style clothing. Oh, and be clean shaven, no kafia, no flying carpet, no ass in the sky, no long dress, no niquab, hijab, etc., no sign of any muslim, musselman, mohammet ism, etc. whatever. Oh yes, use toilet paper, and shake with the right hand, forthrightly, and keep friendship with true Americans. (Not follow the koran, hadith admonition to not mix with the kafirs!!!!) And only the apostate gets to wear the Star of David, this time.

    This solves the disgusting comments of the deceitful white guy (soul seller), supposed atty. progressive liberal for the perpetrators family presser, full of misdirection, taqiyya, kitman, and such of laughable insane defensiveness (who is paying the attys. and with what money, from what source?) here from below cited article:

    Farook’s father said, “He was very religious. He would go to work, come back, go to pray, come back.” Neighbors say that he “grew a beard and started to wear religious clothing. The long shirt that’s like a dress and the cap on his head.” This is a virtual airtight circumstantial evidence confession…….

    http://sultanknish.blogspot.com/2015/12/protecting-ourselves-from-next-peaceful.html

    Actually the perp. family’s presser was virtually identical to all the top mafia, and other criminal guilty gang crook’s pressers. Everyone knew nothing and everyone is so innocent, they are “shocked, shocked, shocked, I say!!!!!!!”

    They of course are figuring that all dumb Christian like, therefore all stupid, Americans who are all easily deceived, not even suspicious, let alone know damn well what is really going on.

    Where appropriate, sarc/off.

    Take wise counsel, THEN SAID HE UNTO THEM, “BUT NOW, HE THAT HATH A PURSE, LET HIM TAKE IT AND LIKEWISE HIS PACK; AND HE THAT HATH NO SWORD, LET HIM SELL HIS GARMENT AND BUY ONE.” — Luke 22:36

    “Disguise, I see thou art an enemy…” William Shakespeare, Twelfth Night.

    Do not be deceived: God cannot be mocked. People reap what they sow. –Galatians 6:7

    • TJFreedomjihad says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 9:26 pm

      I should add the white dude so called atty. was either a muslim or atheist, (same thing), knowing nothing of Christianity, and revealing nothing actually true of the criminal gang of islam, FINAL MEDINA EDITION, WITH THE HANDY VERSE OF THE SWORD, AD ININITUM VIOLENCE BLESSINGS AND COMMANDS, NOR THE PROMISED MARTYRS WHOREHOUSE IN THE SKY, NOR THE “allah IS THE BEST OF DECEIVERS”!!!!!.

      This little filthy millennial boy atty.’s association and lying of the planned parenthood murders, by a deranged old fart, conflated falsely with Christianity, let alone the other murderers who on rare occasion might have claimed or implied Christianity made them do murder, are just plain deranged non-Christians, probably atheists or agnostics, in fact. With no written, nor implied, Biblical leg to stand on!!!! There is nothing in the Bible wherein the real One True God commands any murder of individuals, but defense against an enemy is a whole different issue, and is well supported, including doing one’s own share of work!!!!

      Of course, MURDER IS COMMANDED SACREDLY AGAINST EVER doing as prime sin, within the Ten Commandments, in Christianity.

  52. Robert says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 7:00 pm

    You my dear Muslim citizens are a little late with your concerns. Where were you in ’93 at the bombing of the World Trade Center, on 9/11, Fort Hood or Tennessee. Do you think the recent surge in gun sales has anything to do with your silence other than claiming victim hood. Perhaps you should face up to the fact that civilized nations are getting sick and tired of your religion terrorizing our way of life. There is a very old saying, “If you are going to dance, you got to pay the fiddler.”

    • Edward says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 7:27 pm

      But Robert, our oblivious attributes and doubting Thomas’ in us have to touch the wounds! But thank God’s wrath is inevitable and JW’s exposure of Islam’s bad streak is manifesting exponentially!

    • Joseph says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 8:02 pm

      Robert, wouldn’t it be great if by paying the fiddler we mean for every American killed in a terrorist attack we close down two of their indoctrination centers…..what they call mosques.
      Islam is NOT a religion it is a political ideology. That said, take away their tax exempt status too.

  53. mortimer says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 7:04 pm

    Robert Spencer wrote: “No mention is made of the fact that Muslim clerics have been involved in jihad terror activity and have exhorted Muslims from the pulpit to commit acts of violence.”

    Exactly. From the Muslim side, the demonization comes from the MUSLIM PULPIT and from the KORAN and from the HADITHS…as well as dozens and dozens of popular jihad books, sermons and videos that command hatred of the dirty kafirs and warfare against them.

  54. SoCalMike says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 7:05 pm

    “No one should say it was Islam” because that hurts the cause of furthering Islam where Muslims don’t have political or military advantage.
    Kill or export anyone of them who refuses to condemn jihadis to hell publicly and who refuses to advocate contaminating jihadis with pig’s blood.
    And give American Leftists the same choice.
    They were the enemy in the Cold War and the Vietnam War.
    They are the enemy now from within.
    Ww have 2 battlefronts; not just one.

    • guide inside says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 10:55 pm

      SoCalMike—-Your so right and they have their Generals. One in the White House and many on college campus’s.

  55. Hktony says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 7:18 pm

    Why is there no backlash??? Something is wrong when innocent people are killed again and again and again and there is no backlash. Something is wrong with the west. Just lie down time and time again and let the msn and muzzies take the piss.
    If we we continue not to stand up and make a noise because we are nice civilised people there will be no civilised people left.

  56. Matthieu Baudin says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 7:44 pm

    “… Muslim Americans fear demonization of Islam after mass shooting,..”

    They have nothing to fear from any demonization of Islam; the sooner Islam is recognised as just another Old Tyranny from the Old World the better it will be for everyone including the Muslim born.

    In a modern community such as the U.S.A. people are treated first and foremost as human beings, secondly as citizens and other judgements fall far behind in importance. Muslim born people have nothing to fear as individuals so long as they live by the modern humanitarian moral and legal codes of their host countries.

    If Islam passes away into history like so many traditions of the past, or somehow drops its old baggage and radically transformes into a humanitarian entity, then we can all look forward to a brighter and happier future.

    • Edward says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 11:56 pm

      “If Islam passes away into history like so many traditions of the past, or somehow drops its old baggage and radically transforms into a humanitarian entity, then we can all look forward to a brighter and happier future.”

      That would be a great concept, but the process would take too long. Meanwhile, many innocents would suffer in a span of time.

      But a Muslim’s mindset can be like a person who are addicted to alcohol or drugs the propensity can fall off the wagon. But, yet again some can have innate propensities; the likes of a pit-bull dog that can be witnessed in a Muslim’s aggressiveness nature also. This can be said of the person that went amok and massacred and injured the innocent’s in SB! It has been said that he has worked at the crime scene in the past without any incident like recently. Let’s say he jump off the wagon due to external radicalizing!

      Radicalizing by remote mind control?

      This practice can and has become a reality. Checkout this strong possibility@:
      http://www.lonestarconsultinginc.com/mindcontrol.htm

  57. citycat says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 7:53 pm

    Islam has got the Muslims this far, can’t stop now, not after all the UNSEEN breeding that’s in Islamic incubation that’s a threat to the infidel world.
    I wonder if this recent terror could be an attention diverter that is orchestrated from afar so that it seems it is not of the local Islam, and in order to keep the lid on the secret incubation vessel.
    I believe that the realization of the futility of one’s religion can be a heavy number, especially for Muslims, who since birth are subject to Islamic indoctrination and heavy fear peer pressure mind-bending.
    So the Islamic roots are deep- but can a Muslim rip them out, go through the pain and be free?

  58. Swd says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 8:42 pm

    Demonize away America the f**kers deserve it, they would never show you the same consideration so wtf they get it.

    • Scott M says

      Dec 5, 2015 at 6:00 am

      That is SO true. The end of the line is coming to acceptance of this arrangement where these bastards can just come into our countries and do what ever they want and some stupid weak imbecile government – lets them. Muslims should leave now and live in countries that are acceptable to them – NOT just take our welfare dollar that 80% now get. Get out!

  59. Bela Csakany says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:31 pm

    “‘allah’, the greatest of ALL DECIEVERS”, is satan. It was a demon that impersonated the Archangel Gabriel and dictated the UNholy koran to mohammad. moslem texts are replete with barbarity. It is DEMONIC!

    “Zlozcie Kopie”

    • DP111 says

      Dec 5, 2015 at 5:14 am

      “‘allah’, the greatest of ALL DECIEVERS”,

      John 8:44King James Version (KJV)

      44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

      Its near perfect description of the false pro[phet.

    • Dr. Divinity says

      Dec 5, 2015 at 11:18 am

      Bella….Demonic is just too mild a word to use. Were going to have to make up a word to fit…..There just isn’t a word in the dictionary that fits. Come on JW People let’s find that word.

    • abad says

      Dec 5, 2015 at 4:30 pm

      More like Satan impersonating Jibril (Gabriel).

      Satan is the Deceiver, Father of the Lie, Evil in its purest form, Destroyer of God’s Creation.

      Time for Jesus Christ to return to earth and cleanse it of the Evil of Islam.

  60. Dave J says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 9:53 pm

    It all starts with the Koran.

    This evil book needs to be exposed, banned and burned – a few tasteful book burning events (with speakers, possible barbecue and beer, and its still legal to bring your dog) would make the point.

    Then let them try to defend the indefensible.

    • Dr. Divinity says

      Dec 5, 2015 at 11:22 am

      Yes Dave
      My favorite statement:….FEAR IS THE CATALYST THAT FUELS ISLAM AND THE KORAN IS THE VEHICLE THAT DRIVES IT!!

  61. RKT says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 10:47 pm

    Boo hoo!!

  62. Jeanette Victoria says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 12:52 am

    “Demonization of Islam” How can you demonise what is already clearly demonic?

    • Ronen says

      Dec 5, 2015 at 11:03 am

      Right on!

      Oh the poor Muslims: allowed to live in our free and prosperous countries and they contribute nothing but hatred and violence.
      I can’t recall any real effort on their side to denounce such atrocities or to fight incitement in their mosques.

      They know only how to cry

  63. Islam :- the hateful religion of chaos says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 1:03 am

    I don’t hear any anguish and wailing as to why their de-radicalisation program didn’t work, after all the money they spent convincing the muslim youth that it wasn’t about death or paradise ….??

    All the Imams that were aghast at the outcome, how they didn’t know what was going on in the poor muslims mind ..

    I think the Imams and the mosks should be given a time frame to come up with a program of re-teaching the Koran, how to re- interpret peace, and how they are not going to take over the world… and if they can’t produce solid evidence that their programs are working,,, the mosk should be bulldozed

  64. Tom Ley says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 1:11 am

    Islam is by its very nature demonic. So I don’t think you could demonize it any more than it has been since the liar mohamed (may he burn in hell) showed up to rape, pillage and deceive.

  65. Evocatus says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 3:40 am

    Ta-qui-yah! Always…Taquiyah…

    Yeah folks, all the press conferences, mock horror, phony crocodile-tear “condemnation” of these cold-blooded “Sudden Jihad Syndrome” killers coming from radical groups like CAIR are deflection for Infidel consumption to keep the sheep calm until time for slaughter, and meant to cover for the elation felt when Muslims kill Infidels…

    That’d be US Christians and Jews, folks, and anyone else who hasn’t or won’t “submit” to their god satan/allah…And our gullible/stupid/complicit (take your pick) government and media elites lap it up like a cat to a saucer of warm milk…

    Ignore this or refuse to believe the problem is NOT radical Muslims, but Islam itself at your and your childrens’ peril…Islam is a murderous, backward, barbaric cult bent on world domination and whether that takes 10, 100 or a thousand more years and a billion lives to achieve matters not one bit to the “faithful” within Islam…

    Their “religion” is a political, legal and economic system, within a plan for world military conquest, disguised as a religion…They brazenly use our tolerance and freedom of religion against us and we’re too cowed to see what’s going on before our very eyes…

    Christians, Jews and any other non-believer in Islam will never have peaceful co-existence with them (despite brief interludes while they arm, gather numbers and political strength among us)…The smiling Muslim would rather be slitting your throat…His hand, even extended in (false) friendship, holds a knife…Submission or Dhimmitude is no life for anyone…I will not pay the Jizya…And I will oppose the current Hijra and all who come here under cover of “refugee”, and those in government who allow it…

    Our “leaders” kiss their Muslim a**es out of fear of being called racist, Islamophobe, etc…A phobia is “an irrational fear”…There is nothing irrational about fearing inbred third worlders bent on cutting heads…Be afraid; be very afraid…

    • k says

      Dec 5, 2015 at 7:04 am

      Well said.

      • quotha raven says

        Dec 5, 2015 at 1:07 pm

        to K – you took the words right out of my mouth!

        Cheers!

        quotha raven

  66. Elizabeth Arnold says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 3:58 am

    We are at war but only half the population in the Western world is aware of it. So many people, including our Leaders, are in denial.

    Our weakness gives strength to Islamists and encourages them.

    My Father fought against tyranny in the Second World War. He would be horrified to see how we are capitulating now to a more determined foe.

    Shame on our Leaders.

  67. Richard says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:31 am

    “Muslim Americans fear demonisation of Islam after mass shooting – next Thirsday”.

  68. Mark says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 6:46 am

    Watch the you Tube video, “Why We Are Afraid, The 1400 Secret.”

    • james collins says

      Dec 5, 2015 at 9:08 am

      Mark … thank you pointing to Why We Are Afraid, The 1400 Secret … great and informative video

  69. THE HINDU says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 6:49 am

    “Demonisation of islam” – After muslims commit these atrocities, the rest of them behave as if they are victims. They are very adept at playing the victim card. Muslims now are suffering from ‘Kaffirophobia’ or
    ‘Infidelophobia’.

  70. duh_swami says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 6:57 am

    ‘;American Muslim’ is a myth………Never trust anyone who believes Allah is god…Islam is an enemy…those kuffar who give aid and comfort to the enemy, are traitors…

  71. Plutarchus says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 7:55 am

    DEMONIZING A DEMONIC FAITH?

    What can be unfair about that? Islam’s “demonization” began 14 centuries ago when the peaceful Prophet Mohammed turned to jihad killing, torturing, raping and robbing innocent infidels (Jews, Christians and pagans) as a desperate measure to save his faith from going to the grave with him. And until the evil of jihad is exorcised and expelled from Islam it will remain a demonic faith justly demonized, vilified, excoriated, feared and hated.

    http://www.apollospeaks.com

  72. Ralph says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 9:26 am

    This is amazing!

    The Best, Most Interesting English Lesson I have had to date.

    Did you know “listen” and “silent” use the same letters?

    The word “racecar” spelled backwards still spells “racecar”?

    And that “eat” is the only word that if you take the first letter and move it to the last, it spells its past tense “ate”?

    Have you noticed that if you rearrange the letters in “illegal immigrants,” and add just a few more letters, it spells:

    “Go home you free-loading, benefit- grabbing, resource-sucking, non-English-speaking assholes and take those other hairy-faced, sandal-wearing, bomb-making, camel-riding, goat-shagging, raggedy-ass bastards with you.”

    How weird is that?

    • Mathew Solo says

      Dec 6, 2015 at 2:07 am

      Apache words for vegetarian are…Poor Hunter!

  73. TheBuffster says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 10:04 am

    “He said he feared the shooting would strengthen calls to increase surveillance on mosques.”

    You would think that peaceful Muslims would welcome surveillance on mosques in order to ensure that radicalized Muslims are uncovered and stopped. Wouldn’t you?

    • quotha raven says

      Dec 5, 2015 at 1:21 pm

      to Buffster, who comments on “He said he feared the shooting would strengthen calls to increase surveillance on mosques.”-

      I read that sentence and thought about it, too. Look how many Americans put up with having the government collect every scrap of email (except Hillary’s, I guess) and track every phone call, etc,, saying “I have nothing to hide…why should I care?” Of course, that’s a short-sighted and wrong-headed attitude, but how many muslims and imams do you hear saying they don’t have anything to hide, so why should they “fear” surveillance? I’ll bet most Christian churches wouldn’t mind being monitered, should that ever be proposed. Why would they object or be “fearful”?

      Cheers!

      quotha raven

      • Shmooviyet says

        Dec 5, 2015 at 2:50 pm

        @Buffster & Raven: great points!
        Great points! Why shouldn’t the imams want to keep the violent ones away, if the mosques are places of peaceful worship and nothing more?
        Notice how the muslim in the gym was concerned only about the faith/origin of the shooters as he watched the coverage. So fearful of the ( non-existent ) backlash; even he suspected his own RoP.
        I’d bet money the leftists and certain Dems are chomping at the bit for that backlash to begin.

        • Joseph says

          Dec 5, 2015 at 4:44 pm

          Shmooviyet, or our own government will send in people to stir up trouble as they did in Ferguson and the Trayvon Martin shooting in Florida.
          If the government wants an excuse it will get one…..any way they can.

  74. MiamiInfidel says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 10:25 am

    For a religion that is supposedly peaceful, Islam sure has to defend itself a lot…

  75. WILLIAM Wallace says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 10:40 am

    If Muslims March on Washington DC in force, to show their objection to this depravity, then it will be then that I will consider or take into account how Muslims feel about a so called backlash. Which door they open will dictate their future in this country.

  76. BC says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 10:58 am

    These people walking around in their burkas, abbayas and robes an long beards clearly are showing their identity is with the jihadis. If they dress like the enemy they are the enemy. If you saw a person walking along in a full dress SS uniform you would assume he was not interested in the USA and democracy but in fascism. You can assume the same about those who dress like jihadis, if the local police will not listen report it to the FBI

  77. Arsene Lapin says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 12:01 pm

    ‘Islam in a man is like rabies in a dog’ (Churchill) i.e., Islam is a dangerous disease, just as dangerous as Ebola, and the civilized world needs to protect itself from this evil scourge. We need to abolish the distinction between Islam and ‘Islamist’ or ‘radical Islam’: it’s all the same thing. There is no such thing as a moderate Muslim, just a Muslim who is ignorant of Islam and possibily more civilized because of that ignorance. Whoever takes Islam seriously is as dangerous as a deadly virus and will inevitably seek to vent his deadly poison on all who do not accept his beliefs. We need to wake up, expose Mohammed for the psychopath he clearly was and ban his vile religion in all civilized countries.

  78. Alex Feltham says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 12:08 pm

    With all the verbal diarrhoea the MSM have treated us to over the San Bernadino massacre they missed (as usual) the key point. Particularly in view of the almost trebling of our Muslim population since 9/11.

    “Murdering infidels is what some GOOD Muslims do.

    Syed and Tashfeen are in Muslim heaven now if what Muslims believe about allah is true.

    Good piece on this odd religion. It’s at : http://john-moloney.blogspot.com/2015/12/good-muslims.html

  79. abad says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 1:57 pm

    I really wish they’d get out of my country and move to a Muslim nation.

    Saudi Arabia, for a start.

  80. Lenny Thetruth says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 2:34 pm

    It is important to separate the shootings at Sandy Hook and see that this was the work of a deranged person. So was last weeks shooting at an abortion center, and a movie theater. The similarities re that crazy people did those killings, with deranged minds. No real targets. But, in this SB case, this was an act of terror, done for the sake of hate.
    If you kill randomly, like Sandy Hook, or Adam Lanza, you just want to kill to feel the awesome power of taking a life. It’s more than curiosity. It is mental illness. Every one of those mass killers should have been on different meds, and monitored by mental health eperts. Even then, that does not always work.
    Then there are these two. They were radical, and planned out everything, including evasion and a sustained fight. Contrary to family claims, you do not amass a stockpile of arms and make bombs without some family member knowing. Their silence amounts to complicity.
    We have a president who is trying to tell us that we are all equal. That is a falsehood. We are mostly just created equal, but it changes after that. We will not go to the ghetto and pick somebody off the street to be president. We are not equals. Some of us are law abiding, and some of us are criminals. Some care, and some don’t. Some can kill, and some won’t.
    Time to realize that religions are not the same. We can’t judge another religion by our own. What we see as religion is benevolent. It allows us to coexist with others with a basic level of trust. Almost all religion is internal, with choices, as long as we do not hurt anybody else with out beliefs. Not so for Islam. They are separate, still existing the same way for 1400 years. Still barbarian. Still believing it a caliphate. Still believing men superior to women. Still with the idea that women should not be equal, or enjoy sex. Still insisting their kids marry a person they choose. Still believing they are superior to us, and have the right to kill us if we do not “respect” their philosophy.
    Do they deserve equal protection under the law? I no longer think so. They will have to prove it. I will not hand it to them. And, we know, there are guns here. They can get them, and that is a mistake. But, you can’t take away a persons rights based on their religion. So, I think it is time to ban their religion. Leave the country or change to something acceptable. It may be un-American, but it is not a real religion either. It operates as a criminal organization. With the Mafia, nobody saw anything. With Islam, nobody knew anything. Both are criminal organizations. The Mafia took in street thugs and organized them. Islam is radicalizing their people in the same vein.

  81. Oliver says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 2:46 pm

    And the lame stream media will continue to do this.

    BUT WHEN A WHITE CHRISTIAN, OR HEAVEN FORBID, A JEW COMMITS A CRIME– THE EFFING MEDIA NEVER LETS IT BE FORGOTTEN.

    Remember Bernie & Ruth Madoff. How many (probably innumerable- times did the lame stream media keep referring (directly or indirectly-will clarify) that Madoff was Jewish. (Indirectly- be often mentioning that many of his victims were members of the jewish community that he knew/met, was introduced to, etc.

    Given prominent mention YESHIVA UNIVERSITY & HADASSAH. One would have had to be living in a cave not to know that they are Jewish organizations.\

    Yet, here- nothing mentioned about mosques; about ISIS; other Islamic terrorists attacks (hey, Paris was Israel’s fault- the Swedish Foreign Minister said so; and The Palestinian Authority said that it was israelis carrying out the attack, so no blame to Islam.

    The Boston Bomber admitted the bombing, but wants a new trial-why? well, i guess, islamophobia. (or, he didn’t kill enough people).

    I am sick of these scumbags and their apologists.

    The apologists should be the first ones killed. Just my politically INCORRECT views.

  82. Draki says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 2:49 pm

    They fear this because they know it’s true and that it’s shameful. My feelings never get hurt when others say Christianity is evil.

  83. Joseph says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:56 pm

    After an incident where infidels are slaughtered the ONLY tears a Muslim will cry are tears of joy.

    The slow planning and execution of this war against the west by Muslims is amazing for it’s effectiveness and for how our leaders *just can’t* see it. This is an all out war in slow motion and nothing is being done to stop it.
    At this moment in time we would be better off if we had rocks for leaders, at least rocks are useful and we would be able to throw them at the Muslims.

  84. Jim Peters says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 6:30 pm

    Muslims worldwide need to start their own purges within Islam. They could do it all by themselves, but either lack the courage to stand up to the evil doers or secretly approve of what they are doing. A reformation of Islam is direly needed. The demons are their own creations.

    • E Ward says

      Dec 6, 2015 at 1:32 am

      Muslims don’t do this because they know enough to be afraid for their own safety. They are smarter than non-Muslims in this one respect.

  85. wildbill says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 9:37 pm

    Just as the Globalists are inciting a race war, they are also inciting a religious war. Then will sit back and let all sides kill each other. After which they will emerge the survivors and victors. Do not buy into it.

  86. steve says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 1:11 am

    The islamists are the ones with the phobic irrational behavior concerned about a possible backlash from non-muslims who, though rightfully having fear about continually being targeted and murdered, as a whole have tried to be decent citizens with islamist but patience with the religion of p*88 is dwindling. Islamists will pay eventually dearly for this in that the crimes of many will turn people against all of them for their continuing to be sympathetic or even collaborate with jihadis. If there were so many innocent islamists then why don’t they show more care for their communities and try to reach out and separate themselves visibly from the violent ones in obviously meaningful ways. That is not happening enough and it just creates mistrust and anger. As we see so often with the so called moderate, its more evasive lying about how they are victimized when the non-muslims are the ones being killed by the latest rogue jihadi. So called moderates continue to only dig their graves in this society with their persistent antisocial, passive aggressive, sociopathic cult ways that encourage non-assimilation with America and the West. Islamists will reap what they sow!

  87. Michael McConnell says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 8:30 am

    They earned the title of terrorists; we didn’t give it to them. They never speak out against terrorism yet EVERY TIME there is a terrorist attack, the government gives us a lecture on ‘islam is the religion of peace’ which the muslims whining they are being painted as terrorists. Then the dust briefly settles and then it all happens again. Silence = Acceptance.

  88. E Ward says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 6:33 pm

    This is a time in history when we can (hopefully) prove “the pen is mightier than the sword.” Unceasing verbal backlash is in order. I have no desire to hurt anyone with physical violence, or to encourage others to do so. This would be a war of words in a better time and place.

    I am investigating an Islamic website that I don’t like the looks of. When I hit the translate button, I get gibberish beyond the norm. It is either a (huge) translation problem, or code. I hope someone with some clout will look at this.

    http://www.assakina.com/category/shobhat

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