Workplace violence!
“MASS SHOOTING: San Bernardino female attacker pledged allegiance to ISIS, officials say,” by Vince Cestone, CNN, December 3, 2015:
UPDATE – Friday 7:31 AM As the San Bernardino attack was happening, investigators believe the female shooter, Tashfeen Malik, posted on Facebook, pledging allegiance to ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, three U.S. officials familiar with the investigation told CNN.
The posting was by Malik made on an account with a different name, according to one U.S. official. The officials did not explain how they knew Malik made the post.
WATCH the above video to hear a first responder’s account of the shooting, as well as the full Thursday night press conference.
SAN BERNARDINO (CNN, KRON) — Syed Rizwan Farook — who along with his wife, Tashfeen Malik, carried out the San Bernardino shooting massacre — apparently was radicalized and in touch with people being investigated by the FBI for international terrorism, law enforcement officials said Thursday.
Farook’s apparent radicalization contributed to his role in the mass shooting of 14 people Wednesday during a holiday party for the San Bernardino County health department, where Farook worked, sources said. The names of the victims were released Thursday evening.
Still, the radicalization wasn’t necessarily the only driver behind the carnage, as workplace grievances might have also played a role. President Barack Obama hinted as much Thursday when he said that the attackers may have had “mixed motives.”…
MoeFoe says
No more Muslims into the US. Gotta stop digging the hole deeper.
How many more of these “assimilated” marvelous American Muslims (not at all like those troublesome European Muslims) lurk in our workplaces and neighborhoods waiting for their moments of Sudden Jihad Syndrome?
john spielman says
what Is most worrisome is that 50% of American muslims want sharia law (enforced against nonmslims too) and 18% of American muslims favor violence against nonmuslims who offend them!
Michael Copeland says
The surveys are interesting, but, alas, the ideology is not defined by the “vast majority of muslims”. Their views make no difference. Islam has a body of rules, the Sharia.
“Sharia is Islam, and Islam is Sharia: they are one and the same”,
explains Fouad Belkacem, “Abu Imran”, of Sharia4Belgium. The rules are there: muslims are not allowed to choose.
“It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allah and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision”, K. 33:36, part of Sharia.
Sharia is required to be applied to non-muslims.
Sharia, through the Koran (which is part of it), mandates violence towards them.
It is the ideology itself which is worrisome. At present not all muslims are applying it. The time will come, though.
dlbrand says
“Sharia is Islam, and Islam is Sharia: they are one and the same”
Indeed. No daylight between them because there is no such in-between: “they are one and the same.”
Only fools, deceivers, or those unread on Islam state otherwise.
gravenimage says
Ad as salient, John, is that we can bet that the vast majority of those “moderate” Muslims will do nothing to counter Jihad themselves, and will just passively watch (at best) while their more fervent coreligionists murder us and work to impose Shari’ah.
mortimer says
Gravenimage is correct. When jihad comes to the concert hall, to the shopping mall, to the sports arena, or office building, REAL SUPPOSEDLY MODERATE Muslims will not save the dirty kafirs…they will either help the slaughter or do nothing to stop it.
CeltictotheBone says
What is most worrisome is the moslim brotherhood infiltration of our security and other government infrastructure; with the caliph-in-chief barry soetoro (aka barack hussein obama) ensuring virtual ignorance of the enemy – islam, amongst the security apparatus rank and file responsible for the security and safety of real (exclusive of moslims resident in the USA) Americans.
No more moslims allowed into the US; all mosques monitered 24×7 and every REAL American reminded daily of whom perpetrated the 9\11 attacks that massacered 3,000 Americans.
abad says
I’d go even further than that;
All mosques really need to be shut down permanently. Never reopened.
Time to purge Islam from the United States of America.
dlbrand says
abad said: ” All mosques really need to be shut down permanently. Never reopened.
Time to purge Islam from the United States of America.”
Indeed, my Friend.
But because we refuse to do that, the best we can do is prepare for the next one coming–because it is certain to come.
As I have stated before this hit, the only difference then will be the date, the name of the dead, the grieving, the maimed, and the wounded; the name of the killers, place of incident, and weapons used in hit.
Pig Jizya says
“what Is most worrisome is that 50% of American muslims want sharia law (enforced against nonmslims too) and 18% of American muslims favor violence against nonmuslims who offend them!”
Not according to the terrorist group CAIR (Counsel on Atrocities by Islam Re-invented)
mortimer says
MF wrote: “No more Muslims into the US. Gotta stop digging the hole deeper.”
Exactly. Immigration policy review, please.
Politicians, are you listening? No?
We’d all better write to them. NOW.
Don McKellar says
That is reality! Every single moslem is a ticking time bomb which may or may not go off in their lifetime. Most will not and take a passive role in promoting jihad against the unbelievers. They are happy to lie and deceive when pressed, but they don’t go much further than that and providing perhaps a little finance for terror in the form of Islamic charities. But it just takes the right set of circumstances or personality traits or both, and a moslem starts to get serious and devout in their religion. And because Islam is inherently violent and lays out warfare and hate against nonbelievers right in the texts, we get jihad killers and a never ending cycle of violence, terror, and attempts at sharia law wherever their are moslems and those who are not and the moslems reach a population percentage number that makes them feel safe to start doing so.
Michael Copeland says
Muslim Roulette, as Raymond Ibrahim terms it.
Joseph says
Roulette is where you put one bullet in a revolver, spin the cylinder close it, put the gun to your head and pull the trigger.
Muslim roulette is when SIX bullets are put in, then we put the gun to our head and pull the trigger.
The world will NEVER learn. GOD please help us.
You can never EVER win with Muslims. Live ones at least. Even the dead ones contaminate the soil and air.
Saleem Smith says
The San Bernardino jihadists were devout Muslims acting upon what is contained within Islam’s canonical texts (the Quran, hadith and sira).
After all, Islam is supposed to be ‘the perfect religion’ and Mohammed ‘the model man’ for all Muslims to emulate. And if the ‘instructions/laws/rules of the Quran and Sunnah’ say certain things and Moe did certain evil things then it all must be considered to be true and obeyed by all devout Muslims…
We ex-Muslims living with Islam’s formal and informal death penalty for apostasy know that Islam is a complete fraud.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/
abad says
What we need to do is ban them from entering – and deport the ones already here.
An FDR really won’t help at this point – but deportation and confiscation of their passports.
Muslims have just lost all rights to be in America and be “American” (Muslims can never be truly American anyways) and need to be isolated in the Middle East away from the western world.
That is the only solution.
dlbrand says
Indeed. Precisely.
But we are unwilling to do that, therefore, because of that, we will suffer to cost.
dajjal says
We must contumaciously and disrespectfully demand : ban Islam!!!
Declare it a war machine, not a religion. Demand strict enforcement of the relevant provisions of ICCPR, ICERD & CPPCG which require proscription of Islam by law for human rights violations, warmongering and inciting genocide.
http://www.petition2congress.com/8001/international-quran-petition/?src=widget
The petition will email itself to Congress when you sign it.
https://www.scribd.com/doc/108500978/International-Qur-an-Petition This file has the damnable details.
We need to rise up and raise Hell. The streets of our great cities should be full of citizens cursing Islam and demanding that Muslims be expelled and excluded.
ricardus maximus says
So…… If you pledge allegiance to the Dark Lord of ISIS….. correspond with various people on a terrorist watch list… or people that were of interest… and you horde an arsenal … buy video equipment to upload the footage of your dark deed……. can we possibly entertain the notion that you may be a terrorist?
Or do we just diminish it with qualifiers like hybrid work related dispute with terror over tones.
John C. Barile says
This is THE SMOKING GUN–figuratively and literally. This nails the motive down.
KrazyKafir says
Well, for honest people it does.
john spielman says
TRUE, but for liars and deceivers like the Obamanation who sits in the Oval office it does not!
John C. Barile says
At least he doesn’t sit in the Temple in Jerusalem, howsoever much an enemy of the Jewish people he may be
John C. Barile says
Anyway, godly he’s not.
gravenimage says
I just heard San Bernardino law enforcement admit that this confirms that this was terrorism.
John C. Barile says
So has the FBI.
John C. Barile says
They officially confirm it.
Pig Jizya says
The one thing that I was a little surprised at was that Jizwad Farook and Tashfiend Malik didn’t yell out “Alolha akbar” during the slaughter. This is something new in Islamic Muslim Jahadi Terror massacres inspired by the Retarded Pedophile Mass-Murderer, Mohammed. The question is would Mohammed approve? And I think the answer is “Yes” given the Retarded Pedophile Mohammed’s doctrine of taqiyya.
Westman says
Until we hear the audio of their GoPro cameras, we can’t be certain they didn’t utter the Takbir. This is the Arabic name, sometimes written as takbeer, for the phrase, “allahu ackbar”, and has the sound of talk and beer.
Now when hear the takbir I’ll just consider it to be the beer talking.
somehistory says
Jesus said it: ” There is nothing hidden that will not be disclosed (Luke 8:17).”
The truth will keep leaking out until no denials will be accepted by anyone with a brain.
underbed cat says
I always like your comments “somehistory”, this is true and the comparison of Jesus to Mo is like day and night. The truth is leaking out, I hope many will understand the difference.
somehistory says
Thanks, underbed.
Jay Boo says
Plan B at NPR
As Islam is implicated the conversation is shifting on NPR
WHAT ABOUT
— Terror of all forms
— Planed Parenthood
— Israel bashing
— US bombing in Iraq
— Terrorist point of view
— Are we creating terrorist — blah, blah
BAN ALL MUSLIMS
11B40 says
Greetings:
My understanding is that Tashfeen Malik’s pledge of allegiance to ISIS was conditional based on her being assigned to a workplace violence combat unit.
gravenimage says
Grimly hilarious.
underbed cat says
I think the Democrats and some Republicans and media need to apologize to Michell Bachmann, Louie Gorhmet, Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer, Stephen Coughlin, John Guandolo, Steve Emerson, Frank Gaeffney, and all those who have been brave to speak out about the problems and have been called”racist” islamaphobes prolonged the terror by defaming those who are trying to save lives.
You are and many others who have spoken out….even Trump, Bill Mahr who reached some of the most closed minds.
gravenimage says
Those apologies will never happen–and much as they are deserved, we would be foolish to wait for them.
As we learn from history–from the history of resistance to Fascism and Communism–the best we can hope for is that others will wake up to the threat themselves. Likely they will give little credit to those who led the way and were frequently vilified for their efforts.
But it is enough. The fight is what counts.
After that, we can only hope that posterity recognizes the brave and prescient early warners like Robert Spencer and Pam Geller, as has happened with Winston Churchill and a few others vis-a-vis Fascism.
But if we can push back against the threat of Islam, that is the main thing–no matter who claims credit.
Joseph says
Likely they will give little credit to those who led the way and were frequently vilified for their efforts.
Graven, ten years back I was warning my liberal minded relatives(not all are libs) that Islam wants you dead, as slaves or paying a tax for the right to live. I got a bunch of BS then on how peaceful they are and that I’m delusional. Today when I remind them of what I said i get the response of “not all of them” “that is not true Islam” and “they are lashing out because of **THEY** are oppressed / discriminated in our society”.
I don’t know what it will take for them to come to the realization that Muslims want Islam to conquer the world. They feel safe in their denial and I am afraid that they will be in denial till the day they die.
gravenimage says
As grim as this sounds–and I am as frustrated as you are, Joseph–this does indicate a small amount of progress on recognition of the Jihad threat.
There were a handful of clear-eyed people who began warning about the threat of Fascism as early as the early 1920s. It would take almost twenty years for the Allies to begin fighting back in earnest.
I mention this not because it is an exact parallel–nothing in history ever is–but just to show how long it can take people to face up to a threat.
But we *did* face down this threat–and I believe we can do the same with Islam.
I understand that people don’t want to deal with this–it’s ugly, it’s terrifying, and civilized people have much more pleasant ways to spend their time.
But increasingly, Islam cannot be ignored. Good Anti-Jihadists just have to serve as guides for Infidels who don’t want to submit to this barbarism. It is slow, but I believe, slow as it is, that more people are waking up.
Hang in there, Joseph, and don’t lose heart.
Joseph says
Thanks Graven, I just feel sorry for the people that will have to needlessly die because of stupidity
duh_swami says
Why am I not surprised…I figured there was something like that lurking in the background…
Renee Atkins says
Irony watch…
Kuuleme Stephens told the Associated Press she happened to call 52-year-old Nicholas Thalasinos while he was at work and having a discussion with Syed Farook.
Thalasinos identified Farook by name and told her Farook believed Islam was a peaceful religion.
She added that Farook said Americans don’t understand Islam.
gravenimage says
Thanks for that story, Renee. This is not irony, of course–it is Taqiyya.
Farook wanted the filthy Infidels lulled into a false sense of security about himself and about Islam–until he was ready to strike.
Here’s the link:
“Friend Of San Bernardino Shooting Victim Recalls Heated Conversation About Islam”
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2015/12/03/friend-of-san-bernardino-shooting-victim-recalls-heated-conversation-about-islam/
awake says
MSDNC’s Chris Hayes hardest hit.
Don McKellar says
He’s so hopelessly compromised and his brain is twisted in such a leftist pretzel that he still won’t get it. He is suffering from the politically correct willful ignorance which is the plague of so much of mainstream media in our age, and is the substitute for journalistic integrity in the 21st Century. The Chris Hayes of our time are devoid of journalistic integrity. The concept is completely foreign to them.
underbed cat says
Agree, I caught a bit of him and couldn’t listen..it was completely weird. Truly the mantra of the far left field.
Krampus says
Americans are so immune to mass firearms massacres that this incident has effectively been swept under the carpet.
My fear now is that the jihadists will up their game to trigger the backlash they desire. Creating an “us against them” environment.
I can’t but help keep thinking that this christmas party was a premature attack and the intended target was something that would’ve gained greater and more powerful imagery in the news.
Maybe sudden jihad syndrome played into this attack? Or the jihadists hoped to carry out the christmas massacre, flee to a safe house and broadcast the murders online. Then attack other targets creating a lockdown fear environment? Belgium style?
Either way, all im reading in the msm are, workers made fun of his muslim beard, muslims fear backlash, gun control, militarization of the police and fbi still seeking motive.
gravenimage says
Krampus wrote:
Americans are so immune to mass firearms massacres that this incident has effectively been swept under the carpet.
………………………..
This is not the case at all. This story is all over the national and cable news as well as local news here in California–and I’m not in the San Bernardino area, but up in northern California.
Krampus says
Yeah I wrote this earlier in the day whilst the msm were still caught with their pants down.
Still, there’s been no outpouring of solidarity from Europe. They are just complaining about the US 2nd amendment and US gun laws. Ex Aussie pm (or some thing) just stated that Aussies should not fly into the US due to gun violence. No mention of islamic terror.
No “#jus sui charlie” for our US victims.
gravenimage says
True–I’ve noticed that there has not been the outpouring of concern for the the victims in San Bernardino that there was for Charlie Hebdo and for the Paris attacks.
All too many want to pretend that this was some sort of failure of gun control–as if this helped in France!–rather than another Jihad terror attack.
Ashley says
Krampus posted: “Americans are so immune to mass firearms massacres that this incident has effectively been swept under the carpet.”
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I concur with Graven. I strongly disagree with this comment. Paris came to California yesterday. This was a jihad terror attack on American soil. And Americans are FINALLY waking up to the reality of the threat.
I’m in liberal Massachusetts, and I’m encouraged by the degree of outrage and staunch belief that was an act of Islamic terrorism.
Krampus says
I think most Americans woke up to the great anti islamic backlash story. The horror the horror the mosque received angry emails and phone calls!!!
Kepha says
krampus–with all due respect, I couldn’t disagree more. We American are by no means inured to such attacks. The reason we are skeptical to the value of proposed gun legislation is simply that, regardless of how many Spaghetti Westerns you’ve watched, you stand a far higher likelihood of being murdered by gunfire in some northeastern city where there are very strict gun control laws than you would’ve faced had you lived in Dodge City or Abilene, Kansas, during “Wild West” times. Further, it is highly doubtful that the perpetrators of this California outrage would’ve been caught in the screening that’s being proposed. By all accounts, they had no suspicious things in their pasts, and would have been granted permits.
What is worse is something like the O maladministration’s Fast and Furious, which deliberately sought to supply US firearms to Mexican drug cartels in order to discredit private firearm ownership in the USA. It got Mexicans and Americans, including DEA agents, needlessly killed in order to make the sort of political hay you’re apparently pushing on us.
Swert Ruprecht,
aka Kepha
Joseph says
Fast and Furious……Another impeachable incident.
What was done?????? NOTHING.
Obama has the golden testicles and he wants everybody to kiss them.
I take that back, Obama has no balls, he has the golden anus.
somehistory says
One reporter said that it isn’t *normal* for women to abandon their children as this woman did her infant.
That reporter doesn’t know moslim women. The moslim terrorist is not the first to put killing before her children and she won’t be the last.
Anyone thinking that moslim women are mothers like *normal* mothers should watch footage from Israel where women give rocks and stones to their children to throw at soldiers, knowing that the children might die. Or listen to the women saying they will give their children to fight jihad; that they are glad to give their children to die.
Why hasn’t this terrorist’s face been shown? Are there no photos of her? Is she being protected in death, although being a murderer? She had a passport, did she not?
miriamrove says
That reporter doesn’t know moslim women….That reporter also does not know know that nothing trumps Koran, infant, mother, brother….etc. m
the renegade says
political correctness aka hypocrisy vis a vis islam is still there. Obama trying to call this “mixed motive” .i.e. work place violence combined with religious dispute with colleagues.
a person with a sickness can get better if he is diagnosed as being sick and the person agrees that he is sick. after which the treatment to get better can start.
world need to take the truth pill and call out islam for what it is = an arab expansionist ideology by a blood thirsty maglomaniac called Muhammad that uses God as an instrument to justify his every action to satisfy his every depraved craving.
if we continue to remain silent and punish people for speaking the truth, islam’s advent will take us back to the glory days of the caliphate aka stone agepolitical correctness aka hypocrisy vis a vis islam is still there. Obama trying to call this “mixed motive” .i.e. work place violence combined with religious dispute with colleagues.
a person with a sickness can get if he is diagnosed as being sick and the person agrees that he is sick. after which the treatment to get better can start.
world need to take the truth pill and call out islam for what it is = an arab expansionist ideology by a blood thirsty maglomaniac called Muhammad that uses God as an instrument to justify his every action to satisfy his every depraved craving.
if we continue to remain silent and punish people for speaking the truth islam advent will take us back to the glory days of the caliphate aka stone age.
Myxlplik says
But, but I was watching USA Today and I thought this was a Muslim romance tragedy akin to an Islamic Shakespearian Romeo and Juliette and this had nothing to do with Islam, I thought it was love.
http://youtu.be/MC07nf5W4Tc
gravenimage says
Repulsive. There was nothing “tragic” about this pair except their homicidal commitment to Islam and willingness to murder innocent people in its name.
Walter Sieruk says
Those Muslim terrorists in their brutal and murderous jihad of Islam , be it in Paris, Mali San Bernardino or wherever. Those terrorists are so very violent and deadly that they are similar ,in character , to the heinous villains described in the Bible. Which reads “Their feet are swift to shed blood: Destruction and misery are their ways , and the way of peace have they not known.” Romans 3:15-17. [K.J.V.]
Champ says
SB jihad murderer pledged allegiance to the Islamic State during the attack
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Wait for it!! ..any moment now obama will issue a press conference stating that this is “why” this mass shooting was a jihadist attack / major sarc. Yeah you’ll be waiting a really looong time for that announcement because it will NEVER come. And how do you know that obama is lying? His lips are moving! I know, this is such an old joke, but it sure fits that LIAR-in-chief, obegone.
Saleem Smith says
The San Bernardino jihadists were devout Muslims acting upon what is contained within Islam’s canonical texts (the Quran, hadith and sira).
After all, Islam is supposed to be ‘the perfect religion’ and Mohammed ‘the model man’ for all Muslims to emulate. And if the ‘instructions/laws/rules of the Quran and Sunnah’ say certain things and Moe did certain evil things then it all must be considered to be true and obeyed by all devout Muslims…
We ex-Muslims living with Islam’s formal and informal death penalty for apostasy know that Islam is a complete fraud.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/
Saleem Smith says
All of the evil that devout Muslims engage in is based squarely upon what is contained within Islam’s canonical texts (the Quran, hadith and sira). Sharia law is the inevitable outcome of Islam’s canonical texts.
Angemon says
Yes, I’m certain the weapons and pipe bombs appeared magically out of nowhere after the argument at the Christmas party… sarc./ off
gravenimage says
Yeah–this is ridiculous. Clearly this Jihad attack had been planned well ahead of time.
gravenimage says
SB jihad murderer pledged allegiance to the Islamic State during the attack
………………….
Obviously her commitment to Jihad was so ardent that she was willing to take a moment away from murdering Infidels to declare it.
Auntie Rkba says
Meanwhile NY Slimes is trying to distract with a story headlined something like “Behind facade of being normal, suburban couple had ARSENAL.”
GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS GUNS!
What jihad? What Mooslims? GUNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
Why is it that every white male Christian is seen as party to some giant conspiracy to commit imperial patriarchal racist domination of the world, also kicking puppies and hitting baby ducks with stones. But people who overtly proclaim they are committing murder and mayhem for very specific religio-political causes get a pass.
(I know the answers. I just like asking the question.)
awake says
Still no photo of the woman? I wonder why. Hmmm.
somehistory says
I have been wondering that ever since the first *shadow* box of her appeared. Today, I read an article on Glenn Beck…he and his crew had also been questioning the no photo and were saying it must be that the only one they have of her is in a scarf. And in a scarf, it might be because she is in the scarf.
Either she is in a scarf and they don’t want people seeing only her eyes and wondering how she could be identified that way, or it’s because she is in a scarf and they don’t want the scarf to be made to look like it symbolizes terror. It’s probably both.
PrayerWarrior says
One person here asked why there weren’t photos of the woman.
They’re out now, along with pictures from the inside of the killer’s home.
Now that they’re ISIS, they can be fully dumped on by the mainline media.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3346861/First-picture-terrorist-Tashfeen-Malik-pledged-allegiance-ISIS-killing-14-party-attack-radicalized-American-husband-devout-laws-never-seen-face.html
gravenimage says
Here’s a photo:
“First Photo of Female San Bernardino Shooter Tashfeen Malik”
http://abcnews.go.com/International/female-san-bernardino-shooter-tashfeen-malik/story?id=35589386
I’m surprised they could find a picture at all–reportedly she was so “conservative” that even Farook’s own brothers never saw her face–she was immured in a Burqa at all times.
Simon says
Mass shootings never bring about any serious discussion about controlling high powered weapons in the US. But now that a Muslim has done a mass shooting, perhaps the US will finally use some of that fear and xenophobia to pass some sensible gun control laws.
gravenimage says
I’m sure all of the dedicated Jihadists like this pair in San Bernardino will comply with such laws immediately!
After all, look how tough gun control laws prevented similar violence in France…oh, wait…
Baucent says
This “mixed motive” message the authorities are clinging to is looking more and more absurd. The preparation for a major attack and now the wife’s pledging allegiance to the ISIS Caliph is unmistakably clear. They are Jihadists, either self motivated or acting on direct orders.
It is probable that weeks before the attack they picked the Christmas party as a target. Syed was hyped up when he attended to “case the scene”. That he got into an argument with someone about religion is not surprising. But he already knew what he was planning to do. They returned to do the deed knowing the room was full. Any more talk about possible motive is superfluous, WE KNOW already; they were Jihadists.
gravenimage says
So true, Baucent.
mortimer says
MODERATE ENOUGH YET?????
Syed Rizwan Farook and Syed Rizwan Farook appeared to be MODERATE MUSLIMS…but they weren’t…anything but!
So conclusion… any ‘moderate’ Muslims may show up at your next Christmas Party, rock concert, sports arena or church service and BLOW YOU AWAY!!!
So how do you spot a terrorist…you probably can’t spot them. They are disguising themselves as ‘MODERATE’ Muslims.
Baucent says
WAS THIS STEALTH JIHAD?
Why are we still discussing possible motive days later and is that the intention of the Jihadist couple? I am beginning to believe this couple wanted to commit Jihad but to make it ambiguous. To leave the infidel wondering over motive.
Why was there no trademark cry of “Allahu Akbar” as they began their attack? Why was there no ISIS flag found in the truck or in their house? Where are the Jihadist books in the house? Why did the wife post an allegiance to ISIS on Facebook UNDER ANOTHER NAME? It all points to a new JIhadist strategy for those living among infidels, keep them guessing and confused.
Why would this help the cause? Sowing confusion among the enemy is a long loved military strategy. It also helps the family left behind and the wider muslim community as it deflects criticism while still allowing a Jihadist strike. The Russians used a similar strategy in their annexation of Crimea. They sent in troops with no insigna and denied they were involved, sowed confusion in the enemy’s mind.
Perhaps we are witnessing the emergence of a new Jihadist strategy for striking in the West. Disguise the fact that it is JIhad and keep the infidels wondering and debating.
Lambo says
GET THEM OUT! Get all of them out and close the borders to the rest. They won’t live among us peacefully. They bide their time for an opportunity to murder in Allah’s name.
Kepha says
I hate to admit it, but as soon as WTOP (our reliably liberal, Washington [com]Post-linked radio station) announced that the perps had been identified, I couldn’t help but think “terrorism” as soon as I heard Muslim names. It’s now official, from an MSM source that never had a good thing to say about Dubya Bush except when he made his unstudied, off-the-cuff remark about Islam as a “religion of peace”, that we’re looking at an act of terrorism.
And after all the blunt and sly digs Uncle Kepha has heard about his religion at office parties, he still hasn’t shot people!
PrayerWarrior says
http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/04/us/san-bernardino-shooting/
[Quote]She posted a pledge of allegiance to ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi on Facebook while the shooting was happening, three U.S. officials familiar with the investigation told CNN. Malik’s post was made on an account with a different name, one U.S. official said. The officials did not explain how they knew Malik made the post…. The shooters didn’t make it easy for authorities: The hard drive from their computer is gone, and two relatively new cell phones were found smashed in a garbage can near one of the crime scenes, law enforcement officials said. Bowdich called this an attempt to destroy “digital fingerprints.” ]
The late-as-possible pledge to ISIS, the removal of the hard drive, and the destruction of the cell phones are all according to ISIS’s new directive that their operatives avoid using electronic communications right up until an operation begins. And the pair were taken out before they could up load the body camera contents. This pair was ISIS right from the get go.
And where ever did that third ‘person’ go to? Hmmm?
Its a small gain that they self-identified as ISIS. The mainline steam media will believe its terrorism if its ISIS. All that needs to happen next is for them to realize that ISIS is Islam incarnate. Then we’ll get some progress.
gravenimage says
And where ever did that third ‘person’ go to? Hmmm?
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The “third person” was someone running from the scene who turned out not to be a perp. He did have an unrelated outstanding misdemeanor warrant, and so police did book him. Not another Jihadist, though.
PrayerWarrior says
“Attorney General’s ‘greatest fear’ isn’t Islamic terrorism – it’s attacks on Muslims because of a backlash in wake of shootings”
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3346148/Attorney-General-s-greatest-fear-isn-t-Islamic-terrorism-s-attacks-Muslims-backlash-wake-shootings.html
My head feels like its about to explode.
mortimer says
ISIS is attacking SINFUL targets in the West to encourage Muslims to enforce SHARIA LAW in AMERICA and EUROPE!
ISIS wants to stop CHRISTMAS PARTIES!
dlbrand says
Indeed, indeed.
And the greatest war our nation, in large part, is now engaging in is the one in defense of the Muslim community among us.
Therefore, as I have stated before, live ready; make sure, to the best of your ability, your children and all loved ones live ready.
Because, as stated above, as the USAG alluded to, as what we hear on Fox News, CNN, and elsewhere, attest to, as one “authority” or “expert” after the other rise in defense of the right for the “Muslim Community” to both live and practice their faith among us.
These make clear, as stated, the greatest war our nation is now devoted to is the one defending the right of the Muslim Community to live and practice their faith among us. The very faith–how dare we ignore this fact–that is precisely, to the letter, the faith the good Muslim Allah-obeying couple practiced in their San Bernardino killings and preparations for them.
dajjal says
Forget backlash, including assaults, vandalism & Moronic threats. Steer clear of ‘slimes and curse Congress for inaction. Disrespectfully and contumaciously demand that Islam be outlawed and its adherents be expelled and excluded from our territory.
Tell the AssWholes: they go or you go after the next election, which will it be? Tell the AssWholes: Islam is not a race, you can’t change your race. Ayaan Hirsi Ali and Dougie Hooper changed religions, not races.
Tell the AssWholes: Where do you find the right to attack, kill, plunder, rape & enslave? That’s where you will find the right to manifest, practice and propagate Islam, not in our Constitution and not in America!!! The first amendment’s free exercise is for religions, not war machines.
Senator, Representative, yer one of us or one of them; Obamination is one of them; which are you? Tell us now before the primaries. 🙁
dlbrand says
Well said, Dajjal.
I add to it, any one fool enough to assert they fight for the right for the Muslim to practice their religion here in our nation, asserts, they fight for the right for this weeks U.S. based high-profile Muslims to do what they did, obeying Allah, in the executing of the San Bernardino killings.
Dr. Divinity says
MORE stupid statements from the obummer administration He made a big one about climate control now she made a big one about Muslim backlash and on and on it goes. I’ve been around since FDR and this is the worst yet.Even Nixon was a jewel compared….. and he had to resign
By the way. …we don’t.need gun …..control……we need border control, islamist.terrorist control, refugee control, illegals control and big government control!
Bantheburka says
Loretta is an Obozo clone! Clearly is delusional! All muslims are not terrorists, but all terrorists are certainly Muslim. His mosque should be raided, and his family has to be involved, either by ignoring or actually helping by receiving packages, and keeping this bomb plant in operation. How does a mother not see their own son radicalized, how do you ignore the comments from new wife at dinners! Bullshit!
mortimer says
CHRISTMAS PARTY! CHRISTMAS PARTY! CHRISTMAS PARTY!
Churches will be attacked soon on Christmas Eve by jihadists…count on it!
They attacked a CHRISTMAS PARTY! Christmas is blasphemous to all Muslims…the celebration of the Incarnation of God. Muslims in various countries routinely attack churches on Christmas and Easter to stop Christians from worshipping Jesus as a god.
Rizwan Farook and his wife, Tashfeen Malik, chose a Christmas Party for MURDER!
ISIS is attacking SIN IN THE WEST! They want Muslims to see they are enforcing SHARIA LAW!
The Paris attackers chose a ROCK CONCERT where men and women mingled freely WITHOUT CHAPERONES! They called that ‘PROSTITUTION’. The Paris attackers also attacked a sports match where POLITICIANS (Crusaders) were attending. That was an act of war!
Western politicians like OBUMMER have NO IDEA about the JIHAD DOCTRINE and the DOCTRINE OF THE KAFIR.
dajjal says
Its up to you to educate the AssWholes, to the extent they are able to learn.
Send this link to them, tell them to start learning about Islam.
http://islamexposed.blogspot.com/p/islam-101-for-politicians.html
gravenimage says
Muslims have also targeted Christmas tree lighting ceremonies and Christmas markets.
quotha raven says
To gravenimage – There was a plot two or maybe even three years ago to blow up the families who would gather to watch the lighting on the downtown Christmas tree IN LAID BACK, young families everywhere, PORTLAND, Oregon! I was horrified when I first heard of this, because I have family in Portland. Now I live here too, and seeing how this civilized city behaves in general, it is pailful to contemplate how many innocent people would have their lives curtailed or ruined, had the plot come to fruition.
Something else I’ve noticed, and it’s got me steaming: All the MSM ALL OF IT, refers more and more to terrorists “being radicalized”…it’s always in the passive tense, as though to distance the action from the person responsible for it. The doer has somehow been bewitched or something and made to do unspeakably violent, evil things; the terrorist is himself a helpless victim of whoever “radicalized” him or her. The image of Cinderella’s fairy godmother, with her magic wand with the bright star at the end of it comes to mind. Do you think that’s how they do it?
It seems to me a kind of brain-cauterizing propaganda. The media present these merciless killers as though they made no choices for which they should be held accountable. Every news program I heard on the radio today mentions “being radicalized”, things like “Sayeed may have been radicalized by people he met in Saudi Arabia”….or…”by his wife” like we should blame whoever did that!
This wife, btw, as another JW commenter pointed out, left her six month old baby to plan and execute this suicide mission. What mother could DO that? Breathtaking to think about, non?
Cheers!
quotha raven
Shmooviyet says
LOVE your imagery, Raven: magic wand, bewitched, brain-cauterization. The devil made me do it, I was helpless– and therefore, blameless.
‘Breathtaking’ as well that pols/MSM at first tried to attach the ‘workplace violence’ tag.
What SANE wife/GF hearing her man ranting about his crappy boss or co-workers, responds with “Wait for me!” when he finally comes home and says he’s fed up, he’s going to take care of them once and for all?!? (Or friend for that matter, as we were initially unaware the co-killer was a woman.)
Did Tashfeen kiss that little face one last time before leaving baby with Gramma? Never mind. I just realized the stupidity of that question.
PrayerWarrior says
This is it. The identification of the target the shooters were after.
“San Bernardino Terrorist To Jewish Victim: ‘You Will Never See Israel”
http://www.hannity.com/articles/hanpr-war-on-terror-487284/san-bernardino-terrorist-to-jewish-victim-14177844/
“… just weeks prior to the deadly shooting, Sayed Farook told Nicholas Thalasinos—a devout Messianic Jew and fellow health inspector—“You will never see Israel.”
John C. Barile says
I knew that Nicholas Thalasinos was a Messianic Jew who engaged in animated discussion of Islam at work from an initial report about the victims of this attack.
John C. Barile says
From an initial report I read online.
Larry A. Singleton says
How political correctness may hamper the fight against the Islamic State: Absolutely jaw-dropping.
https://www.facebook.com/theblaze/videos/1018983194805687/?fref=nf
Let’s start the conversation | Final Thoughts with Tomi Lahren
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3E0MFafJ5Y
Tomi Lahren shares her final thoughts on why “the biggest threat to the American way of life is us.”
Young News Anchor message to Obama goes viral – Final Thoughts from Tomi Lahren
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABrauM7yvco
Following the news of the deadly shooting in Chattanooga, Tennessee, Tomi Lahren used the “Final Thoughts” section of her show to unleash a passionate rant on the president’s fight against terrorism. “President Obama, if you won’t say it, I will — radical Islam. This is not workplace violence; this is not a criminal act with motives unknown, this is terrorism,” Lehren says in the video. “What he linked to ISIS or al-Qaida or Hamas, or any of the other 15-plus offshoot terrorist groups? Does it matter? I’m sorry, but radical Islam is becoming the rule, not the exception. Yesterday’s moderate is today’s terrorist. I care that this S.O.B. killed four of our United States Marines. And I care that our commander-in-chief is more concerned with Muslim sensitivity than the honor and sacrifice made by these Marines.”
SpiritOf1683 says
Grievances? Do those in charge have any brains. You don’t just stock up on arms, ammunition, pipe bombs, explosives etc just 24 hours before carrying out a massacre. This had been in the planning for weeks. ISIS must laugh at the terminal stupidity of those in high places and must believe “If fools like those can make it to the top, then the West must be too stupid to survive”.
vcragain says
This is a terrible thing to have happened and there will no doubt be more of the same. The biggest problem we have is within Islam itself, since all those little people keeping busy with their lives are not engaged in terrorism, but we have no way of knowing how many are falling into the arms of the extremists and just waiting for their opportunity. I am not religious, but this does seem to be best answered by the concept of an EVIL entity working away in the background to snare humans into it’s ideas ! Because we cannot know how many Muslims are in ‘waiting’ mode, we have to let them know that we can no longer ‘just trust’ that what they say is true. The only resolution for this is for Muslims THEMSELVES to deal with the enemy in their midst – if they believe it to be an enemy – so we will see what they do as evidence of that or NOT.
DP111 says
For those wondering if “This has nothing to do with Islam”, is the cause of the latest outrage by the RoP.
I’m afraid that “This has nothing to do with Islam” is yesterdays Truth. The Ministry of Truth is working hard to get a new Truth out before the new year.
Watch BBC space for latest.
duh_swami says
The beast of Islam is hard to kill, but it can be defeated and forced into retreat/
To do that, we need a leader like Charles Martel who was not infected by PC…
Will Trump be the next Martel, or will he punk out like Rasool Obama?
Joseph says
Will Trump be the next Martel, or will he punk out like Rasool Obama?
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Obama was with the Muslims before he became president, so technically he didn’t punk out.
He just stayed true to form.
Always On Watch says
During the attack?
Did she upload or stream the videos being made with those GoPro’s?
PrayerWarrior says
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/fbi-investigating-san-bernardino-shooting-as-an-act-of-terrorism/2015/12/04/fd1d5fb2-9ac9-11e5-94f0-9eeaff906ef3_story.html
“Two criminal defense lawyers representing Farook’s mother, three siblings and brother-in-law held a news conference Friday and offered insight into the shooters,”
Now why, pray tell, would this family hire CRIMINAL DEFENSE lawyers, unless, perhaps, well…
[quote] Investigators said the couple had managed to stay off the FBI’s radar. There is no evidence that they tried to make contact with Islamic State operatives overseas. “This is not Jihad 101,” a senior law enforcement official said, noting that the shooters had not taken steps commonly seen in previous terrorist attacks, such as attempting to make contact with Islamic State militants or sharing the group’s propaganda.[quote/]
No, this is not Jihad 101. Its Jihad 201, just the next door down. /sarc off.
Again, ISIS had learned about the FBI/NSA’s monitoring of the internet. Their new tactic is to avoid using it and other means of electronic communication until an attack is underway. I learned that just by reading the news about the Paris attacks. Why haven’t they?
Asian Crusader says
Simple if disturbing question, with apologies to Rober Spencer and regular readers of JW:
Why is there a picture accompanying the article below showing the corpse of the alleged perpetrator shown with its hands handcuffed behind its back?
The accompanying caption actually read:
The lifeless body of gunman Syed Farook, with his hands cuffed behind his back, is seen lying face down on the ground next to a large pool of blood in the wake of Wednesday evening’s gun battle with police.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3347264/Relatives-burqa-wearing-San-Bernadino-shooter-pledged-allegiance-ISIS-killing-14-say-Pakistan-born-jihadi-bride-used-wear-Western-dress-conservative-three-years-ago.html
Asian Crusader says
P.S.: Apologies for typos etc. in preceding post.
Corrected key sentence:
Why is there a picture accompanying the article below showing the corpse of the alleged perpetrator lying face-down in the street with his hands handcuffed behind his back?
worldcitizen1919 says
It was clear this was an ISIS inspired attack by the ruthless way it was carried out. All the hallmarks of ISIS 100% brutality and barbarism.
steve says
If the entire United States was made a no gun zone islamists would still get guns just like black lies mutter and illegals get guns. In fact law-abiding citizens would then have to become criminals to get guns underground in order to defend themselves especially if they live in urban hoodlums or no go zones. Seriously, if o’dumber is struck by lightning with a sudden change of climate it would do the united states and the entire world a great favor and it might even change him back into a man!