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Video: Robert Spencer on Hannity: the SB jihad attack and jihad denial

Dec 4, 2015 9:57 am By Robert Spencer

Yesterday I appeared on Fox’s Sean Hannity Show, discussing the jihad terror attack in San Bernardino, California and the government’s refusal to confront the reality of jihad, which makes vetting Syrian refugees impossible.

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  1. PRCS says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 10:13 am

    Zzjihad.

  2. vicki says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 10:21 am

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  3. wildjew says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 10:40 am

    I wish there were a way Mr. Spencer (without risking being no longer welcome on Hannity’s program) could disabuse the host of the notion he keeps repeating, “Islam (presumably the authentic, peaceful version of Islam) has been hijacked.”

    • somehistory says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 11:03 am

      It seems that Hannity must *agree* with the idea that terrorists don’t have the *true* islam put forth by the other guy and always says it has been “hijacked” as he did last night. If he knows that isn’t the case, most likely he says it to keep his job. But he may swallow the line the guy was feeding him.

      If Mr. Spencer ever gets Hannity to acknowledge on air that terror islam is the real islam, he probably won’t be on the program anymore and Hannity probably won’t have a program.

      • A different perspective says

        Dec 4, 2015 at 11:28 am

        Hannity mentioned the violent verses in the Quran etc. I think he knows very well that Islam is not a peaceful religion, but he has to repeat the politically correct company line if he wants to keep his job.

      • Rob says

        Dec 4, 2015 at 11:34 am

        Sadly, I believe this is true. Hannity cannot be this dumb.

      • BC says

        Dec 5, 2015 at 10:31 am

        I would like Hannity to not talk over his guests. Not only is it impolite but also it means we cannot hear what the person has to say. It shows he is a bad host and I also agree it is pointless to get Ahmadiyya people on the TV as they are a small minority who are in fact persecuted by the rest of the Religion of Peace, maybe they are perceived by the producers/ editors as neutral, however they do not represent anyone but themselves

    • PRCS says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 11:57 am

      I’m not a Trump fan, but I believe he could get away with it.

      And be invited back.

      • miriamrove says

        Dec 4, 2015 at 12:51 pm

        I am not his fan either. I love Ben Carson. That said I will vote for him in heart beat. m

  4. trojan horse says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 10:41 am

    “true islam” he says has separation of religion and state. Bulldust. What a load of codswollop. True Islam has over 100 passages calling for the beheading, slicing up, killing of dirty “unbelievers”. The fact is ALL muslims should be forced to leave western countries UNLESS they take out those 100 plus passages of hate towards unbelievers and take out all the other passages of hate and submission directed towards “unbelievers”. Islam is incompatible with western free thought. Calling it “radical islam” is a lie as well. This is Islam devoutly practised. Call terrorists what they are – “devout muslims” not “radical muslims.”

    • PRCS says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 12:09 pm

      Bingo, on the “radical Islam” nonsense.

      But, the idea that Muslims in the West will remove pages from, or denounce passages from Qur’an ain’t gonna happen.

      But informed citizens, journalists and politicians could–and should–confront those Muslims with those specific passages, telling them that we DO know what they say, and that no more excuses and obfuscations will be tolerated.

      The Hannity’s of the world will then have to end the BS, too.

    • Westman says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 1:33 pm

      Trojan,

      I almost missed the part that the Muslim guest was an Ahmadiyya Muslim. This is a very small sect that originated around 1908, has a current Caliph, and actually has refuted violent Islamic doctrine and made revisions. The guest really is a comparatively “moderate” Muslim.

      Unfortunately, the sect has only about 15 million members, about the size of the Mormon church, and cannot speak for the larger Islam though this guest speaks as if the Ahmadiyya version of Islam is the true Islam. Of course the Baha’i make the same claim though neither is of any consequence in the sea of 1.6 Billion Muslims. The majority of Muslims consider the Ahmadiyya sect to be apostates.

      • Angemon says

        Dec 4, 2015 at 4:46 pm

        Yup – they’re a minority acting as if they speak for the whole muslim world.

      • gravenimage says

        Dec 4, 2015 at 5:34 pm

        Also, while the Ahmadi have renounced violent Jihad, they have *not* done the same for brutal Shari’ah law, and still want to see it imposed. They are not above using stealth Jihad and “lawfare” to achieve their ugly goals.

        Part of this, of course, is endlessly whitewashing Islam–including violent Jihad.

  5. Michael Copeland says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 10:52 am

    Memo to Hannity:
    Hearts and minds are not available in Islam.
    Muslims do not CHOOSE beliefs or actions:
    they are INSTRUCTED.
    The Koran IS taken literally:
    it is NOT PERMITTED to be taken figuratively.
    An Iranian suggested the story of Jonah be taken figuratively:
    he was executed.

  6. underbed cat says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 12:09 pm

    Excellent Robert, I just wish Hannity ( thank you to Hannity to have Robert) to calm down a bit just to deliver the message calmly….I wish you had more time to explain…that the one important part is that isis, al bagdadi is following the verses in the koran as are terrorist groups, and jihadist in the California…that the verses are commands to fight for allah and spread islam through terror, but to deceive the non beleiver. Deception and misdirection are also in the Koran so not to be exposed.

    The links have been made in the Cal shootig.

    Muslims will not speak out.( fear of sharia penalty)…but to say I saw nothing.

  7. Wellington says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 1:24 pm

    As others have already commented, Sean Hannity, who I think is a good man and who has pushed the envelope where Islam is concerned certainly more than most of his fellow media personnel have, nonetheless has to desist distinguishing between “radical Islam” and “Islam.” There is no distinction as, for example, Erdogan of Turkey has made clear.

    An ideology should be judged by the tenets of that ideology and not by the fact that many of the adherents of that ideology don’t fully implement many of those tenets. There were many Nazi Party members and many Communist Party members who didn’t follow or implement many of the tenets of Nazism and Marxism respectively but that didn’t make Nazism and Marxism OK and we never had to put up with the absurdity of “radical Nazism” v. “Nazism” or “radical Marxism” v. “Marxism.”

    The fundamental reason why this distinction without a difference of “radical Islam” v. “Islam” persists is because the assumption still is made that Islam is something good or at least innocuous. But it isn’t. It is a totalitarian ideology like Nazism and Marxism, and just as with those two ideologies, Islam is evil because it singles out a portion of the human race for second-class status or death. Nazism did it with ethnic groups. Marxism with socio-economic groups. And Islam does so with non-believers. And of course all three of these totalitarian ideologies are mortal enemies of freedom. So, enough already with the bogus “radical Islam” v. “Islam.”

    Islam is wicked, at least as wicked as Nazism and Marxism. But I understand the hesitation by many to conclude that mankind got a major religion that is malevolent because it is so daunting to realize and conclude this and the implications are profoundly disturbing. But even more disturbing, I would contend, is mischaracterizing something evil as something good and persisting in this error.

    • PRCS says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 2:27 pm

      “the assumption still is made that Islam is something good or at least innocuous”

      And that it has been perverted, twisted, and hijacked by that infamous tiny minority of “extremists” we know as devout, Muslim literalists.

    • mahghan says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 2:32 pm

      Have you ever read Marx? What happened in the Soviet Union had nothing to do with Marxism. Marx wrote about freeing the workers from oppression they suffered under capitalism. The solution was for workers to run society. It did not happen under Communism where the workers were very much enslaved and oppressed.

      In fact, Marx argued that Socialism could take place ONLY in DEVELOPED industrial societies. Russia and China were backward peasant societies hardly prepared for Socialism.

      • Wellington says

        Dec 4, 2015 at 3:07 pm

        Bull shit. Pure Marxist theory is full of totalitarian rubbish and is, as Joseph Conrad said, “pernicious nonsense.”

        Dialectical materialism is intellectual mumbo jumbo. Determinism, another major Marxist tenet, is an intellectual form of palm reading. The labor value theory, another significant Marxist doctrine, is so naïve by asserting that the only reason why anything has value is because of the labor put into it. Here Marx didn’t even take into account such things as advertising costs and intrinsic value, for instance precious metals. His theory of alienation also is baloney. Many if not most workers don’t want to eliminate the middle class, they want to become part of it. But worst of all is Marx’s class struggle theory. Herein lies the real evil of Marxism because it calls for violent revolution (no gradualism allowed) and the eradication of the upper and middle classes.

        Marxism is also psychological naïve and a prescription for the ending of liberty, also a prescription for economic destruction, especially in the agricultural sector. It completely fulfills George Orwell’s statement that some ideas are so stupid only intellectuals could come up with them. Learn, will ya’, and quit making excuses for one of the greatest evils ever developed by man.

        • Wellington says

          Dec 4, 2015 at 3:10 pm

          Correction: “psychologically naïve” and not “psychological naïve”

        • PRCS says

          Dec 4, 2015 at 4:34 pm

          Whew!

          Bet that left a bruise.

        • Wellington says

          Dec 4, 2015 at 5:39 pm

          I hope it left a bruise, PRCS, since Marxist theory is a prescription for genocide, as demonstrated time and time again in one country after another where it was stupidly and tragically implemented.

          I have no time for anyone making excuses for totalitarian evil, be it Islam, Marxism, Nazism or even the semi-totalitarianism of modern Leftism. A pox on all their houses.

          Hope you and yours had a memorable Thanksgiving. Now, back to the fight.

        • gravenimage says

          Dec 4, 2015 at 9:55 pm

          I don’t have much to add to Wellington’s excellent analysis, but I will say this; East Germany was highly industrialized, but Communism there was still not only a grim and oppressive affair, but rendered a standard of living–never mind the lack of freedom–much inferior to that of neighboring Capitalist West Germany,

        • PRCS says

          Dec 5, 2015 at 2:34 am

          One of East Germany’s most famous vehicles was the smoking, two-stroke engined Trabant.

          West Germany had much better cars.

      • More Ham Ed says

        Dec 4, 2015 at 5:11 pm

        Socialism isn’t worth the pixels on any website it’s mentioned on.

  8. Georg says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 1:31 pm

    Another superb appearance.

  9. Walter Sieruk says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 2:01 pm

    Those Muslim jihadists in the evil and mad Islamic quest of their jihad for Islam are ,no doubt, extremely blind the reality of how terribly wrong they really are in both the heinous evil of their brutal murderous violence of the jihadist actions as well as to the total falseness of their religion. That is one of the many ways Islam blinds ,and warps the hearts and minds of those who believe in it Nevertheless this blindness in no excuse for their heinously evil behavior All this is a reminder of the wise words contained in the book THE AGE OF REASON by Thomas Paine. For in it it reads that “Any system of religion that has anything in it that shocks the mind of a child, cannot be a true system.”

    • abad says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 7:56 pm

      And if Paine were alive today and had to rewrite “The Age of Reason” he’d be targeting the Quran instead of the Bible.

  10. Ren says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 2:11 pm

    American muslims now have to realize there’s a problem within islam. They could not pretend in the paradoxe of true islam or not true islam anymore… Islam is islam.

    The world now is opening its eyes to a satanic ideology.

    • miriamrove says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 2:44 pm

      You have a better chance of hitting a 10 trillion lotto. That day will never come. If denials, excuses, blames and victim hood were to translate into money, every muslim on the planet would be a billionaire man times over. Trust me I was born and raised a muslim. m

    • PRCS says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 3:07 pm

      As it pertains to that problem, they know, and always have known, that Islam is antithetical to the very idea and concept of democracy and that it is incompatible with the U.S. Constitution and the laws which flow from it.

      That the extensive police and media involvement in the aftermath of the violent San Bernardino jihad is beginning to expose their lies and obfuscations about Islam’s true teachings must surely be causing them the consternation they deserve.

  11. gary fouse says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 3:13 pm

    I wish someone had pointed out that the Ahmadis are not considered Muslims by mainstream Muslims and that they are persecuted in Islamic countries they reside in.

    • miriamrove says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 3:58 pm

      Here is one important thing I learned when I was forced to practice Islam: No sect of Islam recognizes another sect of Islam as legitimate, thus they have been killing each other since the day their murderous and pedophile prophet died. M

      • Timothy says

        Dec 5, 2015 at 12:30 am

        Very powerful statement. Thank you for being here. Who, then, can say what true Islam is? Apparently no one can.

  12. R says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 3:22 pm

    Robert, why did you let Hannity get away with saying that “your religion has been hijacked”? We all know that this is true Islam and that true, mainstream Muslims brand that other guys’ sect as heretics. If anything, his sect is trying to hijack the religion.

    • More Ham Ed says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 5:09 pm

      Robert understands the slow COUNTER-jihad just like the unholy ko ‘ran followers understand the slow jihad.

  13. TheCrusader says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 4:21 pm

    I like Hannity bringing up some points and confronting those people, however, why is he saying that the IS people have hijacked Islam???
    WTF? How can you say that and not know there is nothing to hijack in the first place, because IT IS TELLING to kill infidels and bring the rule of Islam to the world?
    I’m really getting tired about tiptoeing around the real issue: ISLAM is EVIL!

  14. JW says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 4:33 pm

    Fascinating and informative comments. Even Hannity has to code his language on this. The guest is truly moderate but espousing his version of Islam that is viewed as an outlier by the bulk of the Islamic community. A couple of thoughts:
    1) has anyone consolidated the violent and savage parts of the Quran and published them? That would be an interesting document to carry around for us infidels to refute the bullshit arguments about peaceful Islam, and also help to educate the world. I, personally, would also love to see something similar excerpted from the Bible and the Torah – all of those ancient holy texts have violence, misogyny and intolerance in them. Let’s eradicate all these primitive belief systems (okay, big job, so let’s start with Islam).
    2) Citizens that believe in ghosts (Allah), that believe they have a duty to kill others that don’t believe the same things they do, and that are sadistic toward the females in their families are, generally (absent the cloak of religion) considered to be MENTALLY ILL in our modern society. Mentally ill citizens, especially those that are violent, are committed to institutions and removed from society for their own and society’s safety. Is there an angle here to help us corral and control these savages? Of course they should be exterminated, but pulling that off, especially in the US, will be tough. Deportation will also be tough, given the limp dicks in Congress. How about a more aggressive approach to identifying jihadists as mentally ill and getting them put into straight jackets and heavily sedated? Could this be a possible legal path to reducing the menace in the USA?

    • billybob says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 11:34 pm

      > has anyone consolidated the violent and savage parts of the Quran and published them?

      This is what you asked for…

      “What does the Religion of Peace Teach About… Violence”

      http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm

      In response to your comment, a quote from the link above…

      “For their part, Western liberals would do well not to sacrifice critical thinking to the god of political correctness, or look for reasons to bring other religions down to the level of Islam merely to avoid the existential truth that it is both different and dangerous.”

      I found this very enlightening…

      The Moderate Muslims

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nA3xN5ptZXM

      Finally, you can’t go around labelling people who have different beliefs than you as “mentally ill”. People have to take responsibility for their own actions. Labelling them mentally ill relieves them of that responsibility.

      We all have our own way of making sense of this world. What counts is our actions and how we treat others, not our beliefs.

    • Timothy says

      Dec 5, 2015 at 12:35 am

      JW – We’ll only have to get rid of Islam. Jews and Christians aren’t into killing people to make them believe their respective religion. They just want to be left alone. Moslems want everyone to convert or die. Start with them and end with them.

  15. James Peyton says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 4:45 pm

    Robert, I think all your readers would find it extremely valuable if you wrote a column showing how best to counter the narrative that Islam is a religion of peace. As it is, I usually just quote a few warlike passages from the Koran and note that most of the peaceful ones were abrogated. In any case, thank you for the invaluable service you perform!

    • More Ham Ed says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 5:07 pm

      J.W. is the best place for proven & verifiable info. Also:

      http://www.thereligionofpeace.com

      27375 DOCUMENTED ISLAMIC terror attacks since 9/11.

      Bookmark that & tell someone else too.

  16. More Ham Ed says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 5:03 pm

    Spot-on clarity from R.S. again. Best overall strategy: don’t let the tack-kill-ya (taqiyya) religion of pieces muslim deceiver get a word in edgewise. Serve ham sandwiches at the next interview.

  17. sheik yer mami says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 5:08 pm

    Harris Zafar. Talking to him is like nailing jelly to the wall.

  18. Tim says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 5:24 pm

    But this is pointless. Why are they inviting an Ahmadiyya Muslim to this discussion? They need to invite a Sunni Muslim. Ahmadi’s are no less kafirs than a Christian or a jew and they don’t acknowledge the validity of the Hadith. This is the problems with the media. They invite the wrong Muslims to represent the majority community. They need to clarify what Muslim is what. Ahmadi’s are peaceful Muslims are endlessly persecuted for it.

    • More Ham Ed says

      Dec 4, 2015 at 5:30 pm

      The unholy ko ‘ran is 100% radical. It doesn’t teach the concept of Salvation through Grace. It contains violent instructions written to current-day followers (as opposed to being a historical record of what took place). You can’t earn right-standing with God. Same ko ‘ran same problem.

  19. Tim says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 5:27 pm

    This interview is basically similar to inviting a Buddhist to discuss Christianity. I think Robert needs to tell these media outlets that inviting the wrong Muslim to discuss a Sunni problem will not enlighten anyone. Ahmadi’s have always denounced terrorism but the Muslim community has never accepted them as “true” Muslims so their opinion more or less doesn’t really count.

  20. Marshal Ironsides says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 6:22 pm

    Islam doesn’t support terror: It IS terror.

  21. abad says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 7:52 pm

    By chance I was looking through my “The New Wonder World Vol 7 The History Book” a few days ago and this is what it has to say about Islam:

    Unfortunately, toward the end of his life Mohammed made a number of changes in the religion. At first no one had been forced to join it against his will. But as his followers grew more and more numerous, he decided that it was right to make war on anyone who would not accept his teachings. “Let the champions of Islam neither argue nor discuss, but slay all who refuse to obey the law [Sharia] or tribute. Whoever fights for Islam, will receive his reward. The sword is the key of Heaven,” he declared.

    – R. W. Hatch, editor

    The renewal copyright date on this volume?

    1941

    The original copyright date on this volume?

    1932

    ………………………………

    The time has come to purge Islam from the western world once and forever.

  22. gravenimage says

    Dec 4, 2015 at 10:12 pm

    Despite the limits of the format–and of Sean Hannity himself, at times–I am thrilled to see Robert Spencer getting so much exposure again.

    And despite his blind spots when it comes to Islam, Hannity is still one of the few mainstream media hosts who regularly deals with the threat of Jihad, and for that I give him kudos.

  23. dlbrand says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 12:59 am

    Once more, Hannity propagates the myth, that Islam “has been high-jacked.”

    Why not just state truth, Hannity: Islam has not been high-jacked, it is/has been obeyed by all Muslims– doing less then submitting to it in total makes one no longer a Muslim but rather an apostate to the Islamic faith.”

  24. John Johness says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:21 am

    Once again the elegance of your quite strength overpowers the histrionics of Hannity and the muzzi’s gibberish stuttering and verbal stumbling.

    Please keep this quietude and elegance.

    No matter what, a civilized argument made in a calm logical manner will win.
    Not with marketing people, not with show hosts. not with political flunkies – but it does with people who have personal and social strength.

  25. Charles Martel says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 8:20 am

    The parade of useful idiots in the media and the Administration is astounding. Trump said recently referring to NerO, “There’s something not right about this guy”. If Paris and SB aren’t clear indications that NerO is a Muslim (and a Marxist),what will it take for the apologists for Islamic ideology to wake up? Another 9/11?

  26. Vicky says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 1:03 pm

    There’s lots of comparisons of muslims to Nazis, and that really isn’t fair. Many self professed Nazis of Germany were clueless to the horrors being performed by Hitler and his cohorts. An old black and white military film showing US soldiers escorting goups of the sometimes affluent Germans, to view the concentration camps and nightmarish ovens where, primarily Jews were exterminated like animals. The Germans most often broke down in tears of mortification at their leader’s atrocities, going on right under their noses. Muslims, on the other hand are very aware and educated on the atrocities of Islam. They simply don’t care. Besides all the many sources of news/social media, muslims need only consult their readily available muslim handbook – the Quran. Muslims, especially those in free countries like America, choose to remain aligned with the horrors spelled out in the Quran and carried out by their devoutly faithful brethren. They choose to proudly and defiantly remain loyal to Islam, the Quran and fellow muslim terrorists. So why do so many stupid, stupid Americans continue to refer to Islam and muslims as ‘radical’ or ‘moderate’? It proves that some fools have to be hit over the head, or lose their head before embracing common sense and the facts/warnings available all around them. Some otherwise intelligent people, choose to believe the lies of the proven to be corrupt media and government, than the facts or the words of the vast majority of muslims themselves who are living outside our country and don’t have a reason to deceive them.

  27. Oliver says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 1:42 pm

    Obama promised to ” CHANGE AMERICA” and he has. FOR THE WORST. WHY THE HELL SHOULD HE STOP NOW.

    HE HAS ALMOST COMPLETED HIS MISISON. MAKE THE US A THROD WORLD CESSPOOL. He showed his true colors in his books, and then in his bash America tour, before he was even sworn in.

  28. Ian Hill says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 2:25 pm

    The whole world now knows just how evil ISlam is.

    Hopefully more and more muslims will realise that they have been brainwashed from birth and stop idolising the warlord Mo and reading his war book.

    Most muslims would be quite happy for Islam to dominate the world peacefully but equally as many will stay silent and happy if it should happen through violence and deception.

    All liberal western democracies are now being attacked by this evil political doctrine that has been masquerading as a religion.

    Obama – and most leaders of religion – are refusing to admit that Islam is at war with us.

    • Jim Peters says

      Dec 5, 2015 at 6:11 pm

      Our attorney general is afraid of hurting their Muslim feelings, while they murder people. Everyone with half an ounce of brains knows this is wrong. I simply don’t know what is going on with the political elites. Is it a form of mass delusion driven by out-of-control political correctness? Is a serious form of mental illness? Are our leaders coopted by globalists? Have they been blackmailed? Are they secret jihadis or Satanists? More and more, Obama appears to be coming unglued, becoming vindictive, not presenting himself in any way remotely presidential. His pique at anybody questioning his overarching sense of importance is glaringly obvious. He is the textbook example of narcissistic behavior. He thinks he is the smartest guy in the room and doesn’t have to listen to anyone.

  29. David says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 4:19 pm

    I think Isis believes that if they launch a war against the West, they will eventually win. Listen to Bin Laden’s discussion of Vietnam. They are not going after the U.S. because they think we are strong and they think we are oppressors. They are going after us because they think we are weak and don’t have the stomach to fight. Having people like Kerry and Obama in office is like pouring gasoline on the Jihad flame. ISIS smells weakness like a shark smells blood or a predator senses fear.They don’t care if this situation lasts 10 years or 15 years or 20 years. We have to make ISIS afraid of us and not be afraid of them.

  30. DP111 says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:14 pm

    Ahmadiyas are Muslims. They read the koran and believe it is the word of allah. They believe Mohammed is the ideal man. So what is the difference?

  31. Jeremiah says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 5:50 pm

    Our frustration with Islam exists because we are not making the obvious conclusions. Islam is preparing for war while we are still trying to figure this out.

  32. tps says

    Dec 5, 2015 at 8:00 pm

    TIME TO CHANGE THE MAIN STREAM NARRATIVE AND ASK THE HARD QUESTION SITTING IN THE ROOM LIKE A NAKED ELEPHAHT…

    I was taught by all my good teachers that to reach sound conclusions about any issue, I must listen carefully, read widely, figure out what is fact versus what is subjective, engage my brain (not my heart–thoughts vs. feelings), sift through the evidence I find, apply it to historical patterns (whether those patterns span one week or 2,000 years) and then reach my general conclusion. In other words, let the facts, however uncomfortable, lead me to the truth.

    For decades I have been hearing this: “The vast majority of Muslims around the world are peace-loving people.” It SOUNDS right because the vast majority are not, at least openly, trying to kill me. But during those decades (except for some very small and very isolated incidents mainly in Northern Ireland) I have witnessed one horrific attack after another by Muslims, and dozens of wars around the globe with Muslims on one or both sides.

    I decided to listen to my teachers and training to test the hypothesis that “The vast majority of Muslims around the world are peace-loving people.” In essence, this is the application of “Occam’s Razor” (a brilliant thought process for finding truth. Look it up if you need a refresher).

    So I started thinking . . . And this regards only very MODERN examples:

    Horrific Islamic-inspired bombings and shootings (in addition to the general enslavement and abuse of women, the removal of their clitorises, the routine beheadings of people who do not support Islam or its spread, the regular burning of churches, the literal Crucifixion of Christians–and so much more) have been taking place around the world for decades. (Really since the 700s, but let that go.) There are some 1.2 Billion Muslims worldwide. How many of them have organized or participated in large-scale protests speaking out against ANY of it? What does common sense tell you about that mass silence?

    Polls of Muslims in specific countries and polls taken worldwide [http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/opinion-polls.htm] show that a sizable percentage FAVOR jihad and the killing of infidels to further Shariah and the spread of Islam. And these numbers are from those willing to be polled. Even if it is just 1%, that is upwards of 15 million who support violent jihad. What does common sense tell you about that?

    A moment of silence was asked for at at every American football and sporting event the weekend after the killings in Paris in November 2015. Silence prevailed. A moment of silence was asked for at a soccer game in Turkey at the same time, and thousands upon thousands of Muslims BOOED in reply. What does that tell you?

    A recent peer-reviewed study of 100 US mosques [http://www.clarionproject.org/analysis/radical-mosques-america-there-one-near-you] discovered that about 8 in 10 mosques preach Shariah law [7th century barbaric rules advocating killings and enslavement] and hand out free jihad literature. What does that tell you?

    That can’t be true, right? Ridiculous, surely? Okay, let’s assume the real number is only 3 in 100 mosques. How many Imams here in America promoting Shariah and the murder of YOU and YOUR family have been reported by peace-loving Muslims who attend that Mosque? What does that tell you?

    If people were killing in the name of Jesus all over the world, would Christians remain silent or would Christian leaders organize giant protests that shout from the steeples: “Jesus does not promote killing, and this is not Christianity.” What does common sense tell you?

    Millions of Egyptians took the streets on November 22, 2012, to oppose President Muhammad Morisi (after Obama helped topple Western-friends and anti-Islamist Hosni Mubarak) and remained there for a long time–remember? So Muslims can gather and protest en masse about who should hold office. What does that tell you?

    The current president of Eqypt, General Abdel Fattah el-Sisi (who overthrew Muhammad Morisi and took control), has openly called for a reformation of Islam, asserting that “Islamic texts and scripture” is driving Muslims to kill.” El-Sisi was blasted by Imams around the world. Other Muslim leaders remained almost completely silent. What does that tell you?

    My CONCLUSION: Until Muslims everywhere start showing by their en masse actions that they are against these acts, renounce them in public, turn in the radical Imams and others in their recruitment centers (sorry, I mean mosques), and call for global meetings to discuss the reformation of Islam (as Christians did hundreds of years ago), we have no logical choice BUT to assume the vast majority of Muslims are NOT peace-loving–regardless of their educational level, economic status, or location.

    As uncomfortable as this may be to accept, does not logic demand we conclude this?

    • Wellington says

      Dec 5, 2015 at 11:22 pm

      I must tell you that it is my conviction that Islam is no more capable of reform than are Nazism and Marxism. There is no reforming a totalitarian ideology and Islam is most definitely, as Bertrand Russell noted almost a century ago, the only major religion which is totalitarian in structure and ideology. You’d have to gut Islam like a fish to get the rot out of it. Moreover, there is absolutely nothing good in Islam, not one damn thing, that can’t be found elsewhere and yet there is much wrong in Islam which is hard to find anywhere else. So what’s the point? Counting on Islam being reformed is a road to Nowheresville.

      Oh, I know what this means. I understand the daunting implications of mankind getting a major religion which is rotten to the core. But at least we should not play dangerous and self-defeating pretend games.

      Islam cannot be reformed. It can only be discredited and then discarded and eventually function only on the extreme margins of human society as is the case with other totalitarian ideologies, that is to say a belief system confined to the confused, the ignorant and the malevolent and seen as such by the vast majority of mankind, and most especially in the West where liberty has been most extensively developed and which Islam is a mortal enemy of.

  33. Philip Malter says

    Dec 6, 2015 at 8:54 am

    While I agree that radical Islam is a problem, Hannity was terrible. He didn’t give his Muslim guest any reasonable opportunity to respond. We weaken our appeal when we appear to be simply bigots.

    • Jack Diamond says

      Dec 6, 2015 at 4:25 pm

      Islam is a problem. I don’t know what radical Islam is, I didn’t find it in the Qur’an or Sunnah or manuals of Islamic law. I thought the Muslim guest (Muslim with an asterisk since orthodox Muslims would call him a heretic) was given plenty of time to give his robotic responses: formulaic denial and disinformation to protect the reputation of Islam from mischief (i.e. infidels catching on).

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