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“If…Koranic passages encourage terrorism…every Muslim would be a terrorist”

Jan 25, 2016 12:19 pm By Robert Spencer

Tareena Shakil went to live under a government that has repeatedly vowed the mass murder of British civilians. If she had gone to live in Nazi Germany in 1940, would she be allowed back into Britain with the simple avowal that she “made a mistake”? If, furthermore, Twitter had existed then and she had followed on Twitter numerous Nazi leaders, and retweeted Nazi slogans, would anyone have any doubt about what she is?

What an absurd age we live in. Note that she didn’t just tweet Qur’anic passages; she tweeted Qur’anic passages juxtaposed with photos of jihadis. If the Qur’an does indeed encourage terrorism, then every Muslim would not be a terrorist, no. Only every Muslim with piety sufficient enough to move him to decide to obey the Qur’anic injunctions to commit violence against unbelievers.

Tareen Shakil

“British Mum Denies IS Tweets Were Terrorism,” by Tom Parmenter, Sky News, January 25, 2016:

A young British mother charged with joining so-called Islamic State in Syria has clashed in court with a prosecutor over whether she encouraged terrorism through her social media updates.

Tareena Shakil, 26, fled the West Midlands in 2014 and took her baby son to live in the IS stronghold of Raqqa.

A few months later she returned to the UK saying she realised she had “made a mistake”.

She denies joining the terrorist group and has told Birmingham Crown court she simply wanted to take her son to live a better life in the caliphate.

Prosecutor Sean Larkin QC questioned her repeatedly about why she followed people on Twitter who have celebrated IS fighters.

Shakil replied: “How am I responsible for their actions? I am only responsible for my own.”

She was asked why she retweeted messages that blended phrases from the Koran and images of groups of jihadi fighters.

She replied: “If you are saying Koranic passages encourage terrorism … if that is the case every Muslim would be a terrorist.”

“Where is the messages where I encourage any act of terrorism, where are the messages where I glorify any act of terrorism?” she asked the prosecutor.

At one point during their feisty exchange Sean Larkin QC said: “If you don’t mind I will ask the questions and you give the answers Miss Shakil.”

Shakil argued that she had not directly tweeted support for IS terrorists – particularly when she was actually in Raqqa.

She said: “If it (inciting terrorism) was my intention I would have been doing it when I was in the capital of the Islamic State – I wasn’t.”…

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  1. Concerned Citizen says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 12:32 pm

    What I want to know is why they allowed her back into Britian and why should they believe her? How did she get away from ISIS? Something is wrong here! Do you think she will be like that woman from California? Muslims are very good at taqiyya!

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 25, 2016 at 4:25 pm

      A few leaving the Islamic State do appear to have escaped–but like you I wonder how many have actually *been sent here* by ISIS.

      This is a question British authorities *should* be asking–but probably won’t.

      • Concerned Citizen says

        Jan 25, 2016 at 8:36 pm

        It’s a shame that our governments are Muslim sympathizers! It truly feels like she is going to be a part of something much bigger in the UK. I just hope she detonates are vest prematurely before reaching her target and kills only herself.

        • Shane says

          Jan 26, 2016 at 10:49 am

          Unless the non-Muslims surrender, there will be civil war in the UK and other European countries. When the Muslim population reaches 10%, then they will become even more violent and misogynistic than they are now.

        • Bones says

          Jan 26, 2016 at 2:13 pm

          Shane and I think alike. Either this “mess’ will come down to “us against them” re: a clash of two civilizations Or we will be sold out by our elected leaders and surrender. Islam has never veered from its goal of a global caliphate. And, right now, it sees its chance of success to be very good.

      • mortimer says

        Jan 25, 2016 at 10:00 pm

        British elites do not know 1) the jihad doctrine 2) the Kafir doctrine 3) the taqiyya doctrine 4) the abrogation doctrine 5) the vigilante doctrine. Without a grounding in Islamic doctrines they are unfit to govern and lead.

        It is 15 years after 9-11 and so Western elites have had time to learn about Islam thoroughly. They have not. We would not be in this mess if they had. There is no excuse.

        • sidney penny says

          Jan 25, 2016 at 11:18 pm

          …not only western elites but school students who would be able to tell the elites what to do.Not enough people know about Islam.No university or high school or main stream media discusses Robert Spencer works.Why?

          Robert Spencer is quite right that every Muslim is not a terrorist.

          “If the Qur’an does indeed encourage terrorism, then every Muslim would not be a terrorist, no. Only every Muslim with piety sufficient enough to move him to decide to obey the Qur’anic injunctions to commit violence against unbelievers.”

          Question is how do we change the mind of those against the infidels,the ones ” with piety sufficient enough to move him (and or her as in this case-Robert is assuming it is always him) to decide to obey the Qur’anic injunctions to commit violence against unbelievers.”

        • Ramon says

          Jan 26, 2016 at 8:24 am

          Yes Mortimer why is it that they refuse to know the enemy? Fear? Apathy or indifference to the demise of our civilisation?

        • Paul says

          Jan 26, 2016 at 8:46 am

          Correct, there is no excuse

    • Peter Charles says

      Jan 25, 2016 at 5:27 pm

      Eyes are as dead as the woman, Malik, in CA who killed 14 , wounded 30. Yes, she’s a liar, and a terrorist looking for a place and time. A ticking bomb lp\ooking for a place to explode, she’s already dead inside.

      • Concerned Citizen says

        Jan 25, 2016 at 8:39 pm

        My thoughts exactly. As gravenimage stated that people have gotten away from ISIS, but something is telling me she’s up to something! We shall wait and see.

      • Paul says

        Jan 26, 2016 at 8:48 am

        Her eyes are dead…a reflection of the evil in her heart

      • linnte says

        Jan 26, 2016 at 11:16 am

        Oh I so agree! Her eyes are dead, like she has been turned off. No twinkle of life in those eyes! Where is her child? Where is her husband? No Muslim male would leave his child, unless it was a girl I guess. How did she figure those ME Muslims would accept her if she already had a child and no father to go with it? Something is wrong with this picture!! Where are HER parents? And lastly, the prosecution can avoid taqyyia by asking yes or no questions.

    • defiant infidel says

      Jan 26, 2016 at 8:48 am

      I WONDER TOO! THIS LEFTIST POLITICIANS WILL KILL US ALL!

      • Concerned Citizen says

        Jan 26, 2016 at 12:02 pm

        I’m afraid you’re right! With their liberal policies we are all doomed! I have a big heart, but we have to protect ourselves from these evil people (politicians and ISIS)!

    • quotha raven says

      Jan 26, 2016 at 9:46 am

      To Concerned Citizen et al –

      The headline sez it all.

      Cheers!

      quotha raven

    • nomoreislamicstate says

      Jan 26, 2016 at 1:14 pm

      There are three stages to islam: http://www.blindfoldnation.com/index.php/2015/12/29/what-is-going-on-with-islam-three-stages-of-jihad-david-wood/ stage 1: Peace = happens when they represent a minority where lashing out would get them killed, Stage 2: they start to cause problems and kill in the name of their religion. Stage 3: they establish Sharia law and still kill in the name of islam, then they start killing each other because there are no non-muslims left to kill. They are savages living in 3rd world countries with 3rd world mind sets. Might as well give them all clubs and put them in a zoo for our entertainment.

    • Peggy says

      Jan 26, 2016 at 6:39 pm

      I doubt she could escape. Men have tried to escape and were killed and they can move around a lot easier than women and especially women with children.
      Those two teenage girls from Austria (formerly from Bosnia) went over there. One was killed during a bombing and the other killed by ISIS when she tried to get away. When they got there they weren’t valued like they thought they woudl be. Apparently they were put to “work” making sure new recruits were rewarded for joining.
      I would be very careful of anyone returning telling us that they escaped. There is no escape.

  2. Michael Copeland says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 12:42 pm

    “Every Muslim is a potential terrorist.
    My plea to our politicians and our society is:
    please open your eyes. … tolerance at the expense of truth is a total stupidity, which will exact a very high price.”
    Nasim ben Iman, former muslim
    http://libertygb.org.uk/news/islamic-sleeping-pill

    • Aubrey Yancey says

      Jan 25, 2016 at 5:33 pm

      I have tried to expose jihad for what the Qur’an says it is, “Striving for the cause of Allah” in more than 50 verses. Islam plans to take over the world, and place it under a theocratic government. Surah 2:216 tells Muslims, “Fighting has been enjoined upon you. But perhaps you hate a thing and it is good for you; and perhaps you love a thing and it is bad for you. And Allah knows, while you know not.” Allah commands that Muslims fight for his cause. Fighting does not necessarily refer to physical engagement. Infiltration of leadership is one way of fighting. Charging innocent local religious and political leaders with hate crimes and hate speech is another. Recruitment is also a form of striving. Fraudulent friendship is a form of striving for the cause of Allah. What, then is the cause of Allah? The cause of Allah is found in surah 8:39, “And fight them until there is no fitnah and the religion, all of it, is for Allah” One world religion = one world government = Islam theocracy. How, then, is this achieved? Surah 9:29 gives us the answer to that question, “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last Day and who do not consider UNlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made UNlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth from those who were given the Scripture – while they are still humbled.” There you have it ALL must worship Allah obey sharia law and become Muslims (described in the Qur’an as those who submit to Allah)..
      No political leaders and no journalists [that I know of] have ever evaluated these verses or even admit that they exist..

      • Michael Copeland says

        Jan 25, 2016 at 6:18 pm

        Indeed, there you have it: “All must worship Allah” –
        Impose Sharia Law on All Mankind – I.S.L.A.M..
        Koran 8:39 – Fight until all the “deen” is for Allah. This is usually artfully mistranslated as “religion”, but it is much more than private conscience (how “religion” is treated in the West): it is “governance”, the whole system of laws and rules for all of life. Islam is total.

      • Bob says

        Jan 26, 2016 at 6:08 am

        Does No. 10 know about this? I rather doubt it!

        • Michael Copeland says

          Jan 26, 2016 at 8:33 am

          When Bishop Guy Levens-Torres TOCC wrote to Mr. Cameron he had a reply from a Muslim-named assistant. These are the people who filter his mail.

        • Geoffrey Cooper says

          Jan 26, 2016 at 10:45 am

          I think they do know Bob. Cameron is not such a fool, none of the establishment are. They’re rich and powerful, they come from privileged, old money backgrounds, they went to the best schools and universities, they hire the best and brightest as their advisers – they MUST have a pretty good idea what’s happening. So what are they up to? Do they have some horrible, covert game-plan to be played out in the medium to long-term? Something along the lines of getting the people of the western world into a state where we will accept a curtailment of our freedoms and rights, a police state, war?
          Don’t underestimate these people, they KNOW what they’re up to!

        • Peggy says

          Jan 26, 2016 at 6:42 pm

          Do you still ask this after all the proof that they know?
          They are advised by MI6 and CIA and everything in between so why do you think they still don’t know?
          They are part of the evil. All working on the same side.

      • linnte says

        Jan 26, 2016 at 11:18 am

        I wish there was a like button. Well said!

    • billybob says

      Jan 25, 2016 at 5:53 pm

      That was very well and clearly phrased. Thanks

  3. nacazo says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 12:57 pm

    This woman may eventually do a San Bernardino. I hope I’m wrong.

  4. abad says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 1:00 pm

    Her eyes are dead enough for her to have the propensity to commit terrorism.

    BTW exactly what is she doing living in the UK anyways?

  5. pdxnag says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 1:07 pm

    If everybody in government at any and all levels in the United States read the First Amendment, which prohibits restraint on peaceful criticism of government, then we would not see so many battles in court and in public spaces on the matter year after year. It is, after all, just a recipe for restraint of tyranny. Man generally tends toward creating tyranny when they have power.

    Islam, in contrast, promotes tyranny of the most vigorous and vile kind. Islam’s version of our First Amendment is its varied calls for death for those who question Islam. The core of Islam is the very inverse of promotion of individual liberty and freedom. But of course it is human nature than some may object, or even choose to deny this evil core.

  6. Jack Diamond says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 1:11 pm

    Moving to the Islamic State is all anyone needs to know about her, to sentence or expel her. She is not a “British mum.” Her double talk should mean nothing in a court. It would help to stop talking about “terrorism” as if the symptom were the cause. It is Jihad and it is Shari’a, of which the Caliphate is the purest form, and it is war. They might start there.

    • Panmelia says

      Jan 25, 2016 at 1:45 pm

      Jack, you are right: she is not a ‘British’ mum or a British anything. She or her parents happened to be born in Britain but that does not make her or her co-religionists British. Being born in a stable doesn’t make you a horse.

      Any traitor that has gone over to our enemies should not be allowed to return – ever. Their citizenship should be revoked and their passport (which isn’t British anyway, but an EU passport) destroyed in front of their eyes, if possible.

      But our weak-kneed, spineless jellyfish government won’t or can’t do that because the banished would go whining to the European Court of Human Rights. The EU Human Rights Charter is actually a charter for traitors, criminals, exploiters and convicts to claim they have been wronged and get compensation from the British government. You can bet that if she is convicted of her crime, she will attract several HR lawyers to her as quickly as carrion attracts flies.

      Meanwhile, all this double talk and hair-splitting argument with the prosecutor is typical of an islamist trained by groups such as hizb ut tahrir who specialise in denial of the truth, lies, aggressive though specious questioning and counter-questioning, and more bare-faced lies.

  7. citycat says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 1:27 pm

    Terrorism is a part of the whole, ie, terrorism is a part of the most dangerous “hiding behind the scenes” infinitely variable Jihadism.
    The whole thing regarding Islam is a blag, and a pack of lies.
    Lies lies lies, almost everywhere.
    Half truths, a smokescreen of words that is like “fluffy clouds” in the mind.
    Humanity looks like a manifestation of madness.

    • Jaladhi says

      Jan 25, 2016 at 1:46 pm

      Its an open secret that the West doesn’t know( or willfully denies knowing) that: Islam is a pack of lies, superstition, terrorism, intimidation, coercion, ignorance, dead brain disease,..

      Tell and spread the truth about Islam fearlessly to counter this demonic cult! Alas, the west has chosen not to do so to their own self destruction!

  8. Linde Barrera says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 1:35 pm

    Dis dame is in “de-Nile”. Deport her to Egypt, a majority Muslim country.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 26, 2016 at 5:25 pm

      Linde, I don’t believe she’s in denial at all. Instead, she is practicing Taqiyya.

  9. Jaladhi says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 1:37 pm

    >”She replied: “If you are saying Koranic passages encourage terrorism … if that is the case every Muslim would be a terrorist.”<

    Yup, Quran does teach terrorism aka jihad and every Muslims is a terrorist aka jihadi!! Case closed!

  10. SpiritOf1683 says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 2:14 pm

    Why has she been allowed back into Britain? Of couirse, these terrorists don’t see themselves as terrorists – they’re merely being ‘good Muslims’ by waging war against us infidels.

  11. Champ says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 2:18 pm

    Not every muslim is a terrorist, but nearly every terrorist is a muslim …

    And the unholy quran is nothing more than a manual for murder.

    • miriamrove says

      Jan 25, 2016 at 3:11 pm

      Well said!!! M

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 25, 2016 at 6:00 pm

      So true, Champ.

    • Wellington says

      Jan 25, 2016 at 6:03 pm

      Pithy and eminently true, Champ.

      • Champ ッ says

        Jan 25, 2016 at 7:26 pm

        Thank you, Miriam, Graven & Wellington …

        And the unvarnished truth is one way to fight against evil islam & company and their ocean of lies & deceit.

  12. somehistory says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 2:39 pm

    The lie with their lips and tongue, but the eyes tell exactly what is true: Her eyes say it all. Of course, the governments are not willing to look at the eyes, unwilling to know the truth and are working hard to further islam, the beast from satan.

  13. Judi says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 3:11 pm

    She’ll get off with a “slap on the wrist”. The do-gooders will say she’s got a baby to look after and she’s seen the error of her ways, blah, blah.

  14. wallace says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 3:20 pm

    The eyes of a dead sand shark.

  15. CogitoErgoSum says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    Did or did not Muhammad tell his followers to fight until all religion is for Allah? Yes, he did. It’s in the Quran and Muslims cannot change it because they think it is Allah’s perfect word. Must every Muslim fight every minute of the day in every land in which they live with people who do not worship Allah? No. Muhammad told his followers to remain peaceful and tolerant of the ways of others IF Muslims are in a position of weakness and unable to enforce the will of Allah. BUT …….. once Muslims gain the strength and the numbers to bring everyone to submission to Allah the Muslims MUST do so. Not all Muslims are terrorists; but every Muslim is a potential terrorist ….. every single one who believes in the perfection of the Quran and wants to follow its commands. The Muslim community in ANY country is a ticking time bomb waiting for the right moment to EXPLODE. Who in their right mind would want to bring a time bomb into his home without defusing it?

  16. gravenimage says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 3:51 pm

    Tareena Shakil went to live under a government that has repeatedly vowed the mass murder of British civilians. If she had gone to live in Nazi Germany in 1940, would she be allowed back into Britain with the simple avowal that she “made a mistake”?
    ………………………….

    Suicidal madness if the UK lets her stay.

    More:

    A few months later she returned to the UK saying she realised she had “made a mistake”.
    ………………………….

    “Made a mistake”–this probably meant she missed the conveniences of the civilized world. I very much doubt it means she has turned her back on Jihad.

    More:

    She denies joining the terrorist group and has told Birmingham Crown court she simply wanted to take her son to live a better life in the caliphate.
    ………………………….

    Yes–because isn’t the standard of living much better in a violent and oppressive Jihad zone than in civilized Great Britain? Oh…wait…

    The fact is that this only makes sense if she wanted her son to live under supremacist Shari’ah law and grow up to wage Jihad.

    More:

    Prosecutor Sean Larkin QC questioned her repeatedly about why she followed people on Twitter who have celebrated IS fighters.

    Shakil replied: “How am I responsible for their actions? I am only responsible for my own.”
    ………………………….

    What utter rot. Their being celebrated Jihadists wasn’t somehow incidental to her following them, nor is it some little-known fact regarding them that she may have missed–she was following them *because* they were IS fighters.

    This is her trying to turn the Western concept of individual responsibility on its head and use it against us.

    More:

    She replied: “If you are saying Koranic passages encourage terrorism … if that is the case every Muslim would be a terrorist.”
    ………………………….

    This is, of course, utter bullsh*t. Were this true, then every Christian upon reading the Bible would become a saint.

    One of the *very* few things both Christian and Muslim scripture have in common is that they are both aspirational. Christians try to live up to their lofty scriptures–Muslims try to *live down* to their vicious ones.

    In running off to join the Islamic State and openly glorifying Jihad terror, Tareena Shakil came quite close to the Muslim ideal.

  17. Edwin1683 says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 4:02 pm

    Whoa, British officials, use the eyes the good Lord gave you, as my grandmother would have said. This creature looks exactly like the San Bernardino killer! Exactly the same dead eyes, exactly the same blank/smug expression and, gosh, even wearing the same black hood.

  18. Karen says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 4:07 pm

    Could you, or I, go to live in Nazi Germany because of the great skiing, or school systems, knowing they were stuffing ovens full of Jews? Could you or I go live in the old Soviet Union, because we were offered a great job, or government favor, but knew that millions were being sent to the Gulag, or worse? Only if we didn’t care one bit about those other millions. And that’s the case with this person; she thought she was on the winning team, and didn’t give one darn about the ISIS slaughter; in fact she probably approved of it. So she became a willing supporter and ISIS citizen. And that’s at least as important as what she did or didn’t re-tweet.

  19. Adrian says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 4:14 pm

    Note the skewed writing by Sky News correspondent Tom Parmenter:

    She is identified as “A young British mother”….

    while

    the country is the “so-called” Islamic State… huh?????

  20. duh_swami says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 4:54 pm

    Terrorism in Quran…’If that’s the case’…
    She’s trying to play word games, but she’s not very good at it…She4e would lose a debate.

  21. Voytek Gagalka says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 4:59 pm

    Not every Allahist is a terrorist. But every Allahist is a POTENTIAL terrorist. Ticking time bomb potential terrorist. How to differentiate between them? Short answer is you cannot. Bosch Fawstin describes this, correctly, as playing a Muslim Roulette. Bloody Allahists and their potentiality!

    • mortimer says

      Jan 25, 2016 at 10:22 pm

      All Mohammedans have a duty to conduct jihad or financially pay for jihad. They know that.

      Mohammedans who do nothing for jihad are called ‘hypocrites’ in the Koran. These ‘hypocrites’ should be executed according to Mohammed. Mohammed is the only expert on Islam.

      • mortimer says

        Jan 25, 2016 at 10:27 pm

        ‘Moderate’ Muslims who do not conduct jihad are described below:

        -Kufrul-Istibdaal: one who rejects or tries to reform Allah’s laws to suit the changing zeitgeist or for their own personal needs.
        -Kufrul-Nifaaq: one who pretends to believe but conceals his disbelief, referred to as munafiq or hypocrite and will be in the lowest level of Hell (Q4:145)
        -Kufrul-I’raadh: one who avoids for their own convenience practicing the religion of Islam yet is informed about its truth
        -“If someone dies without participating in Jihad and not having the Intention of ever doing Jihaad, he has died on a branch of Hypocrisy (Nifaaq)” – Ibn Taymiyyah
        -“Jihad is holy fighting in Allah’s Cause with full force of numbers and weaponry. It is given the utmost importance in Islam and is one of its pillars. By Jihad Islam is established, Allah’s Word is made superior (which means only Allah has the right to be worshiped), and Islam is propagated. By abandoning Jihad Islam is destroyed and Muslims fall into an inferior position; their honor is lost, their lands are stolen, their rule and authority vanish. Jihad is an obligatory duty in Islam on every Muslim. He who tries to escape from this duty, or does not fulfill this duty, dies as a hypocrite.” – Definition of jihad from p580 of Sahih Al-Bukhar, publ. by Maktba Dar-us-Salam
        -“The Koran directly commands us to commit terrorism, so why are we afraid of it?” proclaimed Egyptian MP Ragab Hilal Hamida in the Egyptian

        • خَليفة says

          Jan 26, 2016 at 11:17 am

          Thus it is no surprise to see Saudi Arabia pretend to be the west’s friend with their left hand, AND support terrorism with their right hand. Same with Qatar.

      • SpiritOf1683 says

        Jan 26, 2016 at 2:16 pm

        To bring down the West, they don’t have to resort to terrorism. If they pop out five or six babies in the West, compared with the Westerners none, one or two, they’re doing their bit for Islam. Conquest is coming by stealth, but Western Governments are speeding up this conquest by letting in hundreds of thousands of immingrants – soon to become millions – from Syria and Libya. And they’ll pop out kids of their own. The results of this will become obvious for all to see demographically 20 years from now. And with growing numbers comes growing power, whilst in sharp contrast, the native populations are breeding at below replacement trates, and much of what will be left will be ageing – and a nation where half of its native population is 60 years old or older won’t be equipped to withstand what is around the corner..

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 26, 2016 at 5:28 pm

        Good posts, Mortimer.

  22. Wellington says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 5:23 pm

    As I have written before, an ideology should never be judged by the fact that many adherents of that ideology don’t implement all its tenets but rather by what that ideology says. Islam says many putrid things about this world——–about the denial of freedom, the denial of equality under the law for non-Muslims, death for apostasy, non-Muslims being the equivalent of human waste, the need to wage war “until all religion with Allah” {Sura 8:39}, and the extolling of a person in Mohammed who should be reviled and not accorded any approbation. And this is just for starters. Islam has much more to say that is despicable and so it is Islam that should be judged first and foremost instead of its less “enthusiastic” believers, though even they should be judged because alliance with malevolence should never be overlooked or whitewashed irrespective of only pro forma ties to it.

    • mortimer says

      Jan 26, 2016 at 2:18 am

      Though all Muslims everywhere are not a practicing terrorists, Islam itself is a terrorist creed.

      Therefore, most Muslims are not practicing authentic Islam. Most Muslims are practicing ‘Islam-à-la-carte’ or ‘cafeteria Islam’, whereby they pick and choose which aspects of Islam (if any) they wish to practice according to their own personal taste.

      Islam is highly codified and does not allow such a pick-and-choose approach.

      • Jay Boo says

        Jan 26, 2016 at 2:46 am

        “highly codified” or highly duplicitous.
        Muhammad changed his so called pick-and-choose revelations so often to satisfy his own selfish desire that that Qur’an is littered with a pile of arrogations.

      • Jay Boo says

        Jan 26, 2016 at 2:48 am

        — abrogation
        spell check issue

  23. Aubrey Yancey says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 5:53 pm

    Every Muslim is not a terrorist. However, every Muslim is commanded by the Qur’an to be a jihadist, in more than 50 verses. The Qur’an “Subject Index” describes jihad as “striving for the cause of Allah.”
    The cause of Allah is “One World Government controlled by One World Religion” simply known as a theocratic government controlled by Islam and sharia law.
    Need proof? Surah 8:39, And fight them until there is no more fitnah (or disbelief) and [until] the religion [i.e., worship], ALL OF IT, is for Allah. And if they cease (to disbelieve) then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do. This calls for forced one world religion for ALL.
    How might this be accomplished? Surah 9:29, Fight those who do not believe in Allah or in the Last day and who do not consider unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have made unlawful and who do not adopt the religion of truth [i.e., Islam].

    • mortimer says

      Jan 26, 2016 at 2:22 am

      164 jihad verses, 14 verses against befriending or loving Jews and Christians, many verses recommending apartheid, verses recommending terrorism, verses recommending cruel punishments, supremacist verses, bigotry verses.

      The Koran is a troop motivator.

  24. SoCalMike says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 6:14 pm

    So sad watching the Brits grovel on their knees like slave.

  25. billybob says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 6:14 pm

    I would really question why ISIS let this woman leave. From everything I have read, that doesn’t normally happen. Women arrivals are not greeted as equals. Rather, they become jihadi brides to encourage the jihadis. That is the role women serve. When the jihadi a woman is “assigned” to is killed, she is assigned to another. It’s not like they have any respect for women, a thing that would be un-Islamic. I can only surmise they let this woman go because she could serve a greater purpose in England. One thing is clear, she is not contrite. We shall discover in time what that purpose is.

  26. gravenimage says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 6:31 pm

    “If…Koranic passages encourage terrorism…every Muslim would be a terrorist”
    …………………………

    Isn’t this especially rich coming from Tareena Shakil? She isn’t some apparently “moderate” Muslim.

    Instead, she decamped for the Islam State and Tweeted pictures of violent Jihadists and the vicious Qur’anic passages that inspired their actions.

    And who knows *what* horrors she was involved with in the Islamic State? We know women there have been involved with sex slavery and the trafficking of Jihadi brides.

    The truth is she couldn’t be any *more* of a terrorist unless she had strapped on an explosive vest and walked into a crowded market.

  27. JawsV says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 7:07 pm

    All Muslims are potential terrorists, Tareena. Understand now?

  28. Angemon says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 9:13 pm

    She replied: “If you are saying Koranic passages encourage terrorism … if that is the case every Muslim would be a terrorist.”

    “Where is the messages where I encourage any act of terrorism, where are the messages where I glorify any act of terrorism?” she asked the prosecutor.

    This would seem a textbook case of cognitive dissonance until one remembers that, for devout muslims, someone who burns a man to death is not committing an act of terror, he’s simply enforcing the sacred law of allah. That she refuses to call, for example, the murderers of the Fogel family, “terrorists” doesn’t mean that they’re not terrorists.

    As for the assertion “if the quran encourages terrorism then every muslim would be a terrorist”, that makes as sense as saying “if laws prevented crimes there would be no crime in the world” or “if Christianity forbids contraceptives no Christian would use them” – it’s a textbook example of a false dichotomy. There are other options, obviously – not all muslims know, or care, that the quran orders them to kill unbelievers, or maybe they do know and care but live somewhere they can’t do it (for example, a peasant in Saudi Arabia).

    P.S.: Here’s Zakir Naik claiming that if bin Laden is a terrorist then all muslims should be terrorists:

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 26, 2016 at 5:31 pm

      That from Mullah Zakir shows exactly how pious Muslims regard Jihad terror–approvingly.

  29. mortimer says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    15% of all Muslims self-identify as supporters of terrorist groups. Less than one percent of all Muslims are jihadists. 35% of Muslims are apathetic Muslims who don’t practice or care if others practice. For the 35%, it is a cultural, family artefact.

    Apparently, one in every 7,000 to as high as one in every 3,000 Muslims is a potential terrorist. That means there are potentially 200,000 volunteer jihadists in the world waiting to be trained and sent into battle. In wartime, many more would join if their countries asked them to…as many as 10% of the Muslim population or 10-15 million. That would be a lot of terrorists.

    10% of populations usually enlist to fight when a country has an all-out war. If Iran, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan and Indonesia could join to fight jihad, it would be a devastating world conflict that would have to go nuclear.

  30. Rob says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    A terrorist?
    Nah, discharge her without conviction. Give her a car!

  31. Matthieu Baudin says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 10:48 pm

    Yet here we still are with a travel ban in place against Robert Spencer, a man whose loyalty to his country and civilisation has never been in doubt.

    • mortimer says

      Jan 25, 2016 at 11:35 pm

      Precisely. Morality and good sense turned upside down by British cultural Marxists.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 26, 2016 at 5:35 pm

      Yes, Matthieu–this is madness. British authorities are also keeping out Pamela Geller, and tried to bar Geert Wilders–all those who would *defend* Britain against the Jihad threat. They are also debating banning Donald Trump.

      Bu this Jihadi b*tch seems to be fine to let into the UK–along with scores of Imams preaching the murder of British citizens. Insanity.

  32. Dude says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 11:03 pm

    The article says that in Raqqa she and her son stayed in a house for unmarried women. Unmarried, huh? Who wants to bet her husband was a jihadi fighter who went over there ahead of her and got himself killed?

  33. E Ward says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 11:09 pm

    By this wackadoodle logic, if the Koran teaches Muslims to be loving and peaceful, as touted, wouldn’t all Muslims be so?

    • mortimer says

      Jan 25, 2016 at 11:33 pm

      There is no Golden Rule of Benevolent Reciprocity in Islam…only supremacism and enslavement.

      This is well known, rather than a secret.

      In 1786 Jefferson and John Adams went to negotiate with Tripoli’s envoy to London, Ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman or (Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). They asked him by what right he extorted money and took slaves. Jefferson reported to Secretary of State John Jay, and to the Congress:
      “The ambassador answered us that [the right to extort and enslave] was founded on the Laws of the Prophet (Mohammed), that it was written in their Koran, that all nations who should not have answered their authority were sinners, that it was their right and duty to make war upon them wherever they could be found, and to make slaves of all they could take as prisoners, and that every Mussulman (or Muslim) who should be slain in battle was sure to go to heaven.”

      WHY DO MODERN ELITES NOT UNDERSTAND AS MUCH AS THOMAS JEFFERSON?

      • SpiritOf1683 says

        Jan 26, 2016 at 2:21 pm

        Or as much as Winston Churchill, William Gladstone or Theodore Roosevelt.

  34. sidney penny says

    Jan 25, 2016 at 11:35 pm

    http://voiceofdharma.org/books/tcqp/chi3.htm

    CHAPTER 3
    ENTIRE QURAN IS A MANUAL ON JIHAD

    “The Ideology of Islam:

    Taking into account the character of the basic text of Islam – the Quran – as a Manual on War, Islam cannot pass as a spiritual doctrine in any sense of the term. On the contrary, it stands exposed as a political ideology of predatory imperialism like Christianity, Communism and Nazism with all of which its shares its source, namely, the Bible, as well as many psychopathological traits.

    Professor K.S. Lal has studied and taught the history of Islam in India for the last more than fifty years. He has written a dozen books, starting with his famous History of the Khaljis (1950). In his latest book (1999), he has reviewed the history of Islam in India in the light of Islamic scriptures – the Quran, the Hadis, the Sunnah, and the Shariat.

    His characterization of Islam as an ideology is being presented below:……………..(read the 10 major ones)

    Prof Lal has presented many other facets of Islam such as that Islam has no word for democracy; that secularism and Islam are mutually exclusive; that Islam can set up only a theocratic state; that Islam has institutionalised slavery and degraded women; and that Islam has laid waste many countries. But here we have been discussing Islam as a religion of peace. ”

    Thankfully not “every Muslim with piety sufficient enough to move him or her to decide to obey the Qur’anic injunctions to commit violence against unbelievers.”

    but enough “Muslims with piety sufficient enough to move him or her to decide to obey the Qur’anic injunctions to commit violence against unbelievers.” to worry the infidels.

  35. Singh the Sikh says

    Jan 26, 2016 at 12:04 am

    She is a traitorous and ungrateful pig, that’s the long and short of it, and she should be tried as such, or better still, sent back to her native country of her ancestors. Shameless, vile bitch with no dignity who returned with tail between legs because she missed the free benefits and comforts.

    It is a fallacy to describe her as British. She has no loyalty to Britain whatsoever. As a non-citizen, I have greater affinity/sympathy for Britain as an open, welcoming, democratic society, than her. She is consorting with the enemies of Britain, so it is an abomination to call her British.

    One of the most disliked Muslim trait is ingratitude. If you don’t like Britain, simply pack up and leave any day you want. It will make a lot of people happy.

    Not all muslims are terrorists simply because most prefer to stay home, collect free benefits, and cheer on the terrorists quietly from the safety and comfort of the sidelines.

    I blame my increasing levels of crankiness on the absurdity and blatantness of the followers of islam, and the equally absurd, mind-boggling reaction of the authorities. Everyday brings about some new absurdity to rail against.

  36. scherado says

    Jan 26, 2016 at 4:41 am

    I think she meant to say, “every other Muslim…”; I’m feeling charitable.

  37. mach37 says

    Jan 26, 2016 at 5:12 am

    Every Muslim who denies any Koran passage is subject to the wrath of ISIS, and every Muslim who is a true believer. Either there are a LOT of hypocrites, i.e., apostates living the USA who call themselves Muslim, but they are either NOT true Muslims, or they are practicing muruna, tawriya or .taqiyya.

    • mach37 says

      Jan 26, 2016 at 5:14 am

      Sorry for hitting ‘Enter’ before I corrected my grammar. I’ll just leave it as is, you know what I mean.

  38. The Bull says

    Jan 26, 2016 at 5:18 am

    Depends on the political climate of the country. It’s a lot easier to be a terrorist in Pakistan because you have more support. Even easier in Syria. Not so easy in Australia. You’re more likely to die and be found out. So Robert is right. It just depends on the piety.

  39. Baucent says

    Jan 26, 2016 at 5:30 am

    What we know is she is clever, clever enough to self censor her messages so she can’t be accused of promoting terror acts. That she supports the Islamic
    State is undeniable, but she has been careful not to incriminate herself.

  40. Paul Middleton says

    Jan 26, 2016 at 8:39 am

    There are no moderate Muslims, just “good” Muslims who believe in world domination by the use of terrorism as ordained in the Koran, and “bad” Muslims who have decided to ignore or don’t believe what’s in the Koran. When skilled taqiyya tacticians (Muslim liars, of which I expect this ‘Muslima’ is one) don’t want the matter at hand to be debated or discussed, they attempt to outwit or pre-emptively outflank their opponent by the use of taqiyya. Ladies and gentlemen, I give you – this woman is in all likelihood, a plain, Muslim, ten-a-penny liar.

  41. pavlos says

    Jan 26, 2016 at 9:23 am

    She returned from where, are the all insane in that country ?…She’s been use like a piece of meat abused beyond our wildest imagination, and she caries a child with her throughout this ordeal….Having a father/less child put in the prime candidate for (terrorist bomber or some other suicidal atrocity ) it’s that or a death by stoning…..or a sex toy for the depraved…

  42. Dave J says

    Jan 26, 2016 at 1:52 pm

    Muslims scare me because they all look like inbred genetic mistakes who have then been brainwashed with the Islamic ideology until they are walking zombies with dead eyes and hatred in their hearts. I would never trust or employ such a person and they should be kept out of all civilized countries. They are literally time bombs waiting to explode.

  43. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Jan 26, 2016 at 5:45 pm

    ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS!

    “Terrorism” is really only the simple crime of “extortion” writ large!
    (Extortion is “threats!”)!

    All group rights must come with group responsibilities.

    When you describe yourself as a criminal gangster who asserts it’s his holy right and duty to extort, enslave, and murder all the non-members of your gang, you get judged for that threat, because death-threats are already crimes.

    And that sums up islam.

    ALL Muslims are MURDERER-GANG MEMBERS. Their Quran COMMANDS murder. Therefore the only good Muslims are dead ones. Unless they only only commit “moderate” murder. Then only give them “moderate” executions.

    ALL muslims are criminals, simply by being members of the world’s largest and most ancient yet ongoing crime-gang.

    By their own sharia “law” (crime) rules, ALL muslims are supposed to be seen as “Objects of Fear” by ALL infidels, all the time!

    Being a member of a crime-gang is a crime, even if the member hasn’t committed any specific crime beyond that of their general membership, because they represent the inherent public threat the crime-gang presents. It’s the LAW. Everything muslims pretend to believe is “holy” is already a crime!

    Islam is a monolithic crime-creed, with instructions in their war and crime-manual applying to all aspects of their holy mobster “muslim” minions’ lives. Its management is not a top-down affair.

    Each and every one of them knows their obligations to the tribe and knows they are at war with us. The Qur’an sentences us all to “Death By Muslim!” for our “crime” of simply not being muslims ourselves!

    Would we bother to separately arrest and try each and every individual member of a crime-gang or ARMY which had officially declared war on us and was openly attacking us?!

    • Dave J says

      Jan 26, 2016 at 6:15 pm

      Holy mobsters, indeed. Had any historical criminal gang been astute enough to declare themselves a religion and encode their own criminal behavior in a “Holy Book” we’d have a lot more islams. The philosophy of general bullying, violence to outsiders, rough treatment of women and the death penalty for “finking” or leaving is very similar.

      Why are the authorities who ban Robert and others from speaking in their country, and who arrested a citizen for quoting Churchill still not prosecuting the Koran and the Imams for what is plainly hate speech? And, as we see on this website every day, not just hate speech but also hate actions.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Jan 27, 2016 at 6:29 am

        It’s possible that the Mafia, Camorra and N/dranghaeta, and in India, the Thuggees, were in some sense inspired by or mimicking islam.

        The Triads are, I think, independent in origin; rather like what biologists call convergent evolution, where unrelated creatures manifest similar body type, etc.

        But Islam makes all of them – the cheap knock-offs (Mafia etc, Thuggees, and I would say, Nazism; Hitler was avidly studying a book written by a Muslim, when he was inventing Nazism) – and the Triads and Yakuza, etc – look amateurish. None of them has been as long-lasting or as widespread or as single-mindedly horrible.

        Islam is one of the very worst things that humans have ever invented to burden themselves with.

        • Angemon says

          Jan 27, 2016 at 1:21 pm

          One of the possible origins of the word “Mafia” is “Maafir”, the name of an Arabic tribe that ruled Palermo, in Sicily, the region that the Mafia originates from. I’m sure that, being devout muslims, the maafir collected jizyia from the native Sicilians.

        • linnte says

          Jan 27, 2016 at 1:48 pm

          Oh wow! That is insight! I love this kind of info. Thanks

  44. Georg says

    Jan 26, 2016 at 7:48 pm

    “If…Koranic passages encourage terrorism…every Muslim would be a terrorist”

    -Tahreena “The Shaq Attack” Shakil

  45. Kafirman says

    Jan 27, 2016 at 12:12 pm

    ‘the thesis that “all Muslims are terrorists” just happens to be true. And the proof is as simple as it is clean:

    Premise 1: Mohammad was a terrorist.

    Premise 2: Mohammad is the example for all Muslims.

    As night follows day, from these two premises it follows that every Muslim is at least a doctrinal terrorist. And a doctrinal terrorist is a terrorist, a type of terrorist. While we can concede that not every Muslim is a functioning or operational terrorist, this syllogism forces us to concede that every Muslim is a doctrinal terrorist.

    There are peculiar phenomena that attend doctrinal terrorists. One such phenomenon is that doctrinal terrorists can quickly and seamlessly convert from being doctrinal terrorists only, to full–on operational Mohammadian terrorists. How many more terrorists do we have to hear about, where the Muslim or Multiculturalist will gush, “Friendly Mohammad wouldn’t hurt a fly, I don’t understand how he could have possibility been radicalized!”? Let’s see, there is Jihadi John of ISIS who was an “extremely gentle, kind … beautiful young man.” Then there is Mohammad Atta, the 911 ringleader of whom it was said, “Mohammed was an incredible human being…. Maybe I was the closest to him in our class. He could not have a black spot in his character. He was so solid and pure, good to the roots.” There are tens of thousands of such stories since 9/11.

    http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/12/why-every-muslim-is-a-terrorist/

  46. Kafir Man says

    Jan 27, 2016 at 3:22 pm

    ‘the thesis that “all Muslims are terrorists” just happens to be true. And the proof is as simple as it is clean:

    Premise 1: Mohammad was a terrorist.

    Premise 2: Mohammad is the example for all Muslims.

    As night follows day, from these two premises it follows that every Muslim is at least a doctrinal terrorist. And a doctrinal terrorist is a terrorist, a type of terrorist. While we can concede that not every Muslim is a functioning or operational terrorist, this syllogism forces us to concede that every Muslim is a doctrinal terrorist.

    There are peculiar phenomena that attend doctrinal terrorists. One such phenomenon is that doctrinal terrorists can quickly and seamlessly convert from being doctrinal terrorists only, to full–on operational Mohammadian terrorists. How many more terrorists do we have to hear about, where the Muslim or Multiculturalist will gush, “Friendly Mohammad wouldn’t hurt a fly, I don’t understand how he could have possibility been radicalized!”? Let’s see, there is Jihadi John of ISIS who was an “extremely gentle, kind … beautiful young man.” Then there is Mohammad Atta, the 911 ringleader of whom it was said, “Mohammed was an incredible human being…. Maybe I was the closest to him in our class. He could not have a black spot in his character. He was so solid and pure, good to the roots.” There are tens of thousands of such stories since 9/11.

    http://freedomoutpost.com/2015/12/why-every-muslim-is-a-terrorist/

    • linnte says

      Jan 27, 2016 at 4:29 pm

      Well said and something I did not consider. Thanks for the insight!

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