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Islamic State manual tells jihadis to pretend to be Christians

Jan 10, 2016 6:38 pm By Robert Spencer

Governing authorities and the media are sure to fall for this. They insist Islamic jihadis have nothing to do with Islam, anyway, and so a cross-wearing jihadi will be sure to fill the New York Times and CNN with portentous explorations of the phenomenon of “Christian terrorism.” Note also that the entire publication is for “lone wolves” — you know, the jihadis for whom authorities are still searching for their motive.

“Pretend to be Christians: ISIS urges UK jihadis to cut beards, shun mosques & wear crosses,” by Leda Reynolds, Express, January 10, 2016:

The booklet, called Safety and Security Guidelines for Lone Wolf Mujahideen, offers a chilling insight into the levels of preparation expected of those wishing to cause carnage in Europe.

The 58-page terror manual, which has burning western-style buildings on the front cover, gushes about the importance of surprise when launching an attack to cause maximum impact.

It urges home-grown terrorists to carry out attacks as they are less likely to be noticed.

It also explains how nightclubs, full of loud music and drunk people, are the perfect place to discuss terror plans without being recorded or snooped on.

The main thrust of the instruction booklet is the necessity to blend in with the western way of life and to avoid ‘looking like a Muslim’ so as to stay below the radar of the security services.

It has even been translated into English for those in the West who don’t speak Arabic.

The introduction says: “No doubt that today, at the era of the lone wolves, brothers in the West need to know some important things about safety in order to ensure success in their operations.

“We thought a lot of non-Arabic speaking brothers would find it interesting and may apply it in their blessed operations.”

Readers are urged to wear a Christian cross, splash on the aftershave, cut off beards and even shun prayer meetings and mosques to avoid detection.

There is even advice about what jewellery to wear and on which hand to wear a watch.

Potential terrorists are told: “If you can avoid having a beard, wearing qamis, using miswak and having a booklet of dhikr with you, it’s better.

“It is permissible for you to wear a necklace showing a Christian cross.

“As you know, Christians – or even atheist Westerners with Christian background – wear crosses on their necklaces.

“But don’t wear a cross necklace if you have a Muslim name on your passport, as that may look strange.

“If you want to use perfume, don’t use the oily, non-alcoholic perfume that Muslims use, instead use generic alcoholic perfume as everyone does, and if you are a man, use perfume for men.

“If you are wearing a watch, don’t wear it on your right hand, as this is a sign that you are religious.

“If you have an engagement ring or something like that, it’s better to wear one in gold or better yet, don’t wear any ring at all.

“A silver ring could tell you are religious, as Islam forbids wearing gold rings for men. “

It also offers advice on grooming habits.

It says: “Your beard should be shaved off at least two weeks before your travel so the skin under your beard can be exposed to the sun.

“If you don’t do that the fact that you removed your beard would be too easy to notice.

“If you can get a haircut in a professional hairdresser, try to do so.”

Eager jihadis are also instructed to avoid traditional Muslim greetings.

They are told: “No need to be using too much of the usual sentences that religious brothers use, like ‘salam alaykum’, ‘barakallah feek’ or ‘jazakallah khayr’ and so on.

And tips on where to plot a terror act are also given.

The author says: “A nightclub, because of the loud music, the drunk people and the crowd, could actually be a good location to secretly discuss the details of an operation.”…

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  1. Champ says

    Jan 10, 2016 at 6:41 pm

    Oh they could learn a thing or two from Rick Warren …

    • Oppressaphobe says

      Jan 11, 2016 at 9:02 am

      Good one!

  2. Wellington says

    Jan 10, 2016 at 6:58 pm

    Might almost be describing what Obama has done for a long time now. Just sayin’.

    • mortimer says

      Jan 10, 2016 at 8:30 pm

      Exactly. Obama has talked as a Christian, but he has behaved as a Muslim in foreign affairs. He has acted as a Muslim in internal US affairs. He has made so many excuses for jihadists, but not defended the rights and lives of Christians in a reciprocal manner.

    • Don McKellar says

      Jan 10, 2016 at 9:54 pm

      As I’ve been saying on here numerous times. And like I said: moslems when asked what their religion is need only say: I’m a Christian and leave it at that. What they can never say is: “I am not a moslem”. And Obama has NEVER said plainly and simply: I am not a moslem. He can’t.

      • Oppressaphobe says

        Jan 11, 2016 at 9:07 am

        He should be asked over and over by reporters to make him say he is not a muslim because you’re right, he never can say that. So it’s a good way to just rattle him. I mean, why do we make it so easy for him to destroy us? We send him on vacations, congress rolls over for him, it’s just sickening how America has been deceived by Barach Hussein Obama, MD (muslim dictator).

      • Western Canadian says

        Jan 11, 2016 at 8:36 pm

        You have continually said that, and it is still rubbish. Feel free to supply your ‘support’ for your ego trip.

    • Paulette Metoyer says

      Jan 11, 2016 at 6:01 am

      Exactly.

    • Budvarakbar says

      Jan 11, 2016 at 6:44 am

      It is exactly what Obama is and has been doing – along with that sh-thead Wright and his PHONY “church”

    • Bob Janvrin says

      Jan 11, 2016 at 8:31 am

      Agreed

  3. Mo says

    Jan 10, 2016 at 7:12 pm

    I wish I could get hold of this to read it. But I’m certainly not going to line the pockets of jihadists!

    • dlbrand says

      Jan 11, 2016 at 1:30 am

      Mo said: “I wish I could get hold of this to read it….”

      Here’s your link to it:

      https://ansarukhilafah.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/safety-and-security-final.pdf

      • Ashley says

        Jan 11, 2016 at 1:56 pm

        Thank you for posting the link.

        That is one very disturbing publication.

        • dlbrand says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 2:05 am

          Ashley said: ” Thank you for posting the link.

          That is one very disturbing publication.”

          You bet.

          It is all based on Qur’an and Sunnah doctrines.

          linnte said: ” ….It won’t download on my Kindle. :(”

          Try a thumb drive; it had no issues accomplishing the deed. It is PDF file, straight up.

      • linnte says

        Jan 11, 2016 at 3:28 pm

        I was just going to say I would like to see this publication, and VIOLA! Here it is! Thanks!

        • linnte says

          Jan 11, 2016 at 3:30 pm

          Well dang! It won’t download on my Kindle. 🙁

        • dlbrand says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 2:07 am

          Make that ” ‘I’ had no issues accomplishing the deed.”

  4. Champ ッ says

    Jan 10, 2016 at 7:23 pm

    When in doubt show the person a drawing of muhammad and then wait for their response …

    • Peter Charles says

      Jan 10, 2016 at 7:48 pm

      Ask them to explain the Trinity. Don’t think any can , in their own words…..

      • Jay Boo says

        Jan 10, 2016 at 8:23 pm

        There are many other options
        In fairness, I doubt that many Christians are truly able to explain the Trinity — (very well).

        • Wellington says

          Jan 10, 2016 at 9:24 pm

          No one, Jay Boo, can “explain” the Trinity. If one could, then one wouldn’t need faith. After all, knowledge of something is quite different from belief in something. It certainly is where a theological proposition like the Trinity is concerned.

          Many readily believe in the Trinity, though I am inclined to accept Thomas Jefferson’s assessment of it, to wit, that it is theological nonsense. As Jefferson said, “Those who accept the doctrine of the Trinity are saying that one is three and yet somehow one is not three. Those doing so are like a ship without a rudder—-going to and fro upon the seas without any direction.”

          I don’t mean to pick a fight with my Christian allies, who adhere to a religion that emphasizes the dignity and worth of all human beings and which Islam woefully fails at doing, but I would contend that religious propositions (like the Trinity) are rooted in pure belief and, worst of all, and unlike the methodology of science and philosophy, the two other major ways mankind has of comprehending the cosmos, are accompanied by threats aplenty for not accepting said propositions. This, I would contend, is wrong and yet virtually all religions are guilty here.

          Where Islam differs from other major faiths is that its believers are allowed, indeed instructed and encouraged, to use force IN THIS WORLD, never mind what is supposed to happen in the possible next one, if one does not believe this, that or the other thing, Herein lies the single greatest problem with Islam. I mean if Muslims believed all the nonsense they do BUT would refuse to use force to propagate their nonsense against those who disbelieve or even mock what they accept as theologically true, well then, the main problem with Islam would be gone overnight. BUT, the theological blueprint of Islam doesn’t allow for this kind of tolerance in the world and many confused Muslims (excuse the redundancy) are only too ready to implement this massive and freedom-crushing defective imperative that is unique among all major faiths.

          All religions use fear of some kind or another to compel belief. One is going to burn in Hell, be obliterated, come back as a cow or carrot, etc. if one DOES NOT BELIEVE and acts accordingly, but only Islam threatens in its theological blueprint in this world, never mind a possible next one, to use force to sustain religious hypotheses that are not capable of being known but only believed.. And so when those of other faiths, for example Christianity, did use force in this world to insure “proper” belief, they were violating the tenets of their religion. Not so with Islam, which is why Islam, unlike any other major religion, or any minor religion for that matter, is such a unique burden to all of mankind.

        • Champ says

          Jan 10, 2016 at 10:42 pm

          As Jefferson said, “Those who accept the doctrine of the Trinity are saying that one is three and yet somehow one is not three. Those doing so are like a ship without a rudder—-going to and fro upon the seas without any direction.”

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Wellington, essentially Thomas Jefferson was a unitarian, and they deny the trinity, so of course Jefferson would say something like that. And I don’t want to belabor this particular issue, but I strongly disagree with the unitarian point of view regarding the trinity. Take care.

        • Jay Boo says

          Jan 11, 2016 at 12:09 am

          Wellington and Champ

          Jefferson — Not really an analogy, actually.
          Thomas Jefferson’s misplaced analogy “that one is three and yet somehow one is not three. Those doing so are like a ship without a rudder—-going to and fro upon the seas without any direction.” ” is a poor attempt on his part to discredit the Trinity.
          I truly do not even see a feasible comparison to debate with his rudderless analogy
          I would have thought that Thomas could have at least come up with a more relevant objection to the Trinity than that.
          ———————-

          Another analogy follows
          I accept that water the essence that sustains human life on earth exists in three physical forms yet is essentially the same.
          Ice is solid but flows easily when melted and although we cannot easily see it when it evaporates, we still have indirect evidence that it is there.

          Technology that humans believed impossible in the past are today accepted as common place. I believe Einstein once said something about the past, present, and future as existing all at the same time.

        • Wellington says

          Jan 11, 2016 at 12:21 am

          I should have given the quote in full, Jay Boo, to wit, “that one is three and three is one and yet somehow one is not three and three is not one……’

          As for water in its different forms, these are clearly detectable, totally ascertainable, now aren’t they? No faith needed. Contra the Trinity, no?

        • Jay Boo says

          Jan 11, 2016 at 12:46 am

          “that one is three and three is one and yet somehow one is not three and three is not one”
          ——–
          I agree that part is relevant Wellington, although it is not anymore convincing in actually proving his point. I will admit that some Christians focus on the (Son and the Father) very literally. The concept of the Trinity that concerns Jefferson is the part that I do not dispute at all.
          Many years ago people though that it was insanity to believe that the earth was round because ‘obviously’ everyone on the bottom would fall off.

        • Jay Boo says

          Jan 11, 2016 at 12:52 am

          I wish to clarify my poorly written sentence below that could be read two ways.
          “The concept of the Trinity that concerns Jefferson is the part that I do not dispute at all.”

          In other words I disagree with Jefferson here but not with:
          “that one is three and three is one and yet somehow one is not three and three is not one”

        • Champ says

          Jan 11, 2016 at 2:16 am

          Jay Boo wrote:

          I accept that water the essence that sustains human life on earth exists in three physical forms yet is essentially the same.
          Ice is solid but flows easily when melted and although we cannot easily see it when it evaporates, we still have indirect evidence that it is there.

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Jay Boo, I like the water analogy …

          Also, the *egg* analogy is another good one:

          “The Egg and i – A Simple Explanation of The Trinity”

          http://www.cafelogos.org/eggandi.html

          This essay is succinct yet thorough. I thought he explained the triune nature of God in simple enough terms for anyone to understand.

        • Jay Boo says

          Jan 11, 2016 at 8:53 am

          Thanks for that analogy Champ.

          I believe it is a good thing when Christianity is examined and scrutinized.
          Islam unlike Christianity cannot hold up to even the slightest bit of scrutiny.
          Allah is so sensitive to criticism and mockery.
          Insecure Allah is always throwing up hissy fits lest anyone doubts his supposed greatness if we use Muslim behavior as a guide.

          In contrast, while it would at first seem counterintuitive that Jesus would chose to accept the fate of humiliation and suffering, one might ask “who else could be as magnanimous in the face of evil of the world, but God”

        • Oppressaphobe says

          Jan 11, 2016 at 9:10 am

          Obama can explain the trinity:

          ME, MYSELF,….AND UH, …I

        • Laura says

          Jan 11, 2016 at 9:45 am

          Echad – a plural form of oneness in Hebrew. The best description/explanation that I have read likens this plural oneness as a “bunch” of grapes. One bunch, many grapes. Or, in this case, 3 persons of the Godhead.

        • Wellington says

          Jan 11, 2016 at 1:53 pm

          Yes, Champ, you are correct that essentially, though not formally, Jefferson was unitarian in his belief about a higher power. Several other Founding Fathers were too, for instance Benjamin Franklin.

          For the record, any assertion that Thomas Jefferson was an atheist, which one still comes across to this day (e.g., Christopher Hitchens’ contention in his work on Jefferson) is simply wrong. Jefferson believed in a Supreme Being and thought the teleological argument for God was a very solid one. He also greatly admired Jesus’ ethical teachings but did not think him divine, that later writers, especially Paul, whom Jefferson clearly did not like, defied him and attributed miracles to him as well that he didn’t do. That’s why Jefferson, quite competent in ancient Greek, translated those portions from the Gospels that dealt only with Jesus’ ethical precepts. As you might know, this Jeffersonian condensing of the Gospels is known as the Jefferson Bible.

          Particularly interesting is that Jefferson nominally remained an Anglican (Episcopalian) all his life. Go figure. The only President who never formally belonged to any church is Abraham Lincoln, who was definitely quite the skeptic when he was young but who developed a strong belief in a higher power as he moved through his Presidency. As the great American historian, Samuel Elliot Morrison, wrote of Lincoln, “He became humble before God but the master of men.”

          No Founding Father was an atheist, unless one considers Thomas Paine a Founding Father, which most do not, including myself, though he did help the Revolutionary cause with his work, Common Sense. Every Founding Father believed in some kind of supreme being but some took a philosophical route to such a being rather than a religious one. After all, the whole matter of God is not just confined to religion but to philosophy as well. Finally, while many Founding Fathers were not conventional Christians, many were, for instance Hamilton and Madison. The latter did go through a skeptical stage but eventually came back to a belief in the divinity of Jesus.

          Well, I have probably written too much here but I thought you might be interested in this, though you may already know all of it. Take care, Champ. Now, back to the fight.

        • linnte says

          Jan 11, 2016 at 6:27 pm

          The word “Trinity” does not appear in the Bible. God is always described as “One” being. Jesus said, “before Abraham was, I am”, and to Peter who asked to show them the Father and they’d be satisfied, he said,” haven’t I been so long with you that you don’t know who I am?” Isiah prophesies, “For unto us a son is given, a child is born and his name shall be Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father etc” Matthew says,” go ye therefore baptising them in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit” and in Acts 2:38 There is none other name given among men whereby you must be saved and they baptised in the name of Jesus. So, the scripture is saying the Father, son and holy spirit are one being, but manifest in 3 different ways, not like an egg which is shell(separate unto itself)yolk(separated unto itself) and whites, (separate) but more like water, which is the same thing in the form of Water Ice and Steam. And the only reason I bring this up is because the doctrine of the Trinity is a stumbling BLOCK for Muslims, and should be eradicated from “Christian Speak”. If they could come to the realisation that God the Father & Holy Spirit ACTUALLY inhabited the body of a human being like Isaiah prophesied, lived a life of holiness for 33 years then DELIBERATELY made himself a sacrifice (the LAST SACRIFICE NEEDED) to redeem the sins of the whole world, they who love God VEHEMENTLY would turn to your Jesus-Isa!!!!!!! The only thing Islam has gotten RIGHT is that God is one god. Period. It is after all, the first commandment and Deuteronomy 6:5 is kind of a hint at what I am talking about “Hear O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your HEART with all your SOUL and with all your STRENGTH- a “triune” command- strength being the Father, soul being Jesus and Heart being the Holy Spirit. We are made in the image of God- we have a spirit, a soul and a body. It seems pretty simple to me. And also, YES! I agree Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim.

        • dlbrand says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 2:13 am

          linnte said as follows and more:

          The word “Trinity” does not appear in the Bible. God is always described as “One” being. Jesus said, “before Abraham was, I am”, and to Peter who asked to show them the Father and they’d be satisfied, he said,” haven’t I been so long with you that you don’t know who I am?” Isiah prophesies, “For unto us a son is given, a child is born and his name shall be Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father etc….

          …………………………………………….

          Amen, my Friend. Well stated, across the board.

        • Champ ッ says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 2:24 am

          Obama can explain the trinity:

          ME, MYSELF,….AND UH, …I

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          LOL!!! …funny & so true 🙂

        • Ned says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 8:19 am

          It’s easy. Relate what Happened when Christ was baptized by John the Baptist.
          Father, Son and Holy Spirit are beautifully illustrated. It’s a literal picture of the Trinity.

        • linnte says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 2:02 pm

          Do you Christians want to convert Muslims or scare them away? Do you WANT them to remain Muslims? The use of the word TRINITY is neither in the Bible, nor is it substantiated by scripture. The baptism of Jesus was a perfect example of the “Oneness” of God, and the omnipotence of God. If you really think about it, the Father in this example was just a VOICE like Moses burning bush. There are MANY different ways God has appeared to the people but He Himself NEVER dedifferentiates Himself as three. Only ONE. Put down your millenia of dogma and theology and embrace the actual words of the Scripture!!! You will make converts instead of enemies. Isn’t this the altruistic goal here anyway? To bring them the Gosple of Jesus?

        • Champ ✞ says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 3:29 pm

          linnte wrote:

          The use of the word TRINITY is neither in the Bible, nor is it substantiated by scripture.

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          True: the word trinity is not in the Bible, but you’re wrong when you state that it isn’t substantiated by scripture — in fact, VERY wrong. Wow where DO you come up with such nonsense?

          To say that the word “trinity” is not in the Bible is an invalid argument …

          “The word, Trinity, is not found in the Bible”
          by Matt Slick

          Some critics of the Trinity doctrine claim that since the word, “trinity,” is not found in the Bible, it isn’t true. Furthermore, some assert that if God wanted us to believe in the Trinity, He would have stated the doctrine clearly.

          First of all, it is illogical to claim that since the word, “Trinity,” is not found in the Bible, that its concept is not taught therein. This kind of objection usually demonstrates a prejudice against the teaching of the Trinity. Instead, the person should look to God’s Word to see if it is taught or not.

          Second, there are many Biblical concepts that people believe in that don’t have a specific word describing them used in the Bible. For example, the word, “bible,” is not found in the Bible, but we use it anyway to describe the Bible. Likewise, “omniscience” which means “all-knowing,” “omnipotence” which means “all-powerful,” and “omnipresence” which means “present everywhere,” are words not found in the Bible either, but we use them to describe the attributes of God. We don’t have to see a specific word in the Bible in order for the concept it describes to be true.

          Following are other words that the Bible does not use, but the concepts are mentioned:

          * Atheism is the teaching that there is no God. “The fool has said in his heart, ‘There is no God,'” (Psalm 14:1). (See atheism)

          * Divinity which means divine quality or godlike character. Yet, we speak of the godlike quality of the Lord God. See Psalm 139 and Col. 2:9.

          * Incarnation which means the word (God) who became flesh. Yet, this is definitely taught in the Bible (John 1:1, 14).

          * Monotheism is the teaching that there is only one God (Isaiah 43:10, 44:8).

          * Rapture is the teaching that the Christians who are alive when Jesus returns will be caught up to meet Him in the air (1 Thess. 4:16-18).

          So, to say that the Trinity isn’t true because the word isn’t in the Bible is an invalid argument. Furthermore, to say that if God wanted us to believe in the Trinity He would have clearly taught it in Scripture is also an invalid argument. Not all things taught in the Bible are perfectly clear. Take a look at the Book of Revelation. It contains many things that are cryptic that must be interpreted after examining all of the Bible. Even then, there are disagreements as to what some things mean. Yet, we know that the truths there are true whether or not we discover them.

          Nevertheless, there are Scriptures that demonstrate a Trinitarian aspect of God.

          * Matt. 28:19, “Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.”

          * 2 Cor. 13:14, “The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all.”

          * Eph. 4:4-7, “There is one body and one Spirit, just as also you were called in one hope of your calling; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 one God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all. 7 But to each one of us grace was given according to the measure of Christ’s gift.”

          * Jude 20-21, “But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith; praying in the Holy Spirit; 21 keep yourselves in the love of God, waiting anxiously for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life.”

          Here: https://carm.org/christianity/christian-doctrine/word-trinity-not-bible

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          linnte, if you’re going to speak as some sort of an *authority* of the Bible, then please, educate yourself first. This essay from Matt Slick is a good place to start. It’s succinct yet thorough.

          Be blessed by the truth!

        • linnte says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 8:01 pm

          Champ, you sir, are a hypocrite. You have a cross at rhe end of your name, yet think I am sympathising with Muslims because I would lile to see them converted??? WTF do you do for a witness to your unsaved neigjbors? I bet ten billion bucks they all think you are arrogant and mean.

          As for spurious words that don’t appear in Scripture-every time a human, non-divine concept(which is what words are), is added to, or taken away, the meaning and holiness of Scripture is changed. God himself ONLY refers to himself as One. That’s good enough for me. Adding and taking away from Scripture IS A STUMBLING BLOCK to those Muslims who might be saved! And it has been a point of contention since Christianity became an organised religion. If you were to call God a triune being, to say Peter? He would be shocked and would not understand what you were talking about. The Jews of his day did not even CONSIDER altering the meaning of scripture. So how the hell can you? ANYWAY whole countries and civilisations have been destroyed and remade over this-our same arguement.

          So I say to hell with you Mr.Selfrighteous Christian. I have never said, nor do I purport to be a religious authority. I just read the Book, which is what Bible means and I read it for what it says, not what I THINK it says. Jesus would shit if he knew you don’t give a rats ass about Muslim souls. Oh, that’s right….he does KNOW according to your own beliefs.

          Lastly, Scripture is clear about the ATTITUDE people are to have when it comes to being a Christian and hopefully attempting to make believers of the Gospel. I suppose it is ok for Mr.Spencer to sound snarky- it is his mission after all. But you who are serious about batteling Islam will never get anywhere with them if you continue to be a smart ass, and that includes Robert Spencer. JUST WHAT IS HIS GOAL IF NOT TO CONVERT THE LOST?

        • Champ says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 4:20 pm

          ps …

          linnte wrote:

          Do you Christians want to convert Muslims or scare them away?

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          linnte offers some friendly-fire towards Christians? Hmm, very telling and odd. linnte is attacking the wrong side.

          Hey muslims can’t handle the truth, from anyone, so linnte needs to take aim at THEM.

          No, I will NEVER suppress the truth just because it might offend a muslim, or anyone for that matter.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 8:57 pm

          linnte wrote:

          The word “Trinity” does not appear in the Bible. God is always described as “One” being. Jesus said, “before Abraham was, I am”…So, the scripture is saying the Father, son and holy spirit are one being, but manifest in 3 different ways…
          ………………………………

          linnte, this *is* how most Christians understand the Trinity–as “three in one”, and not as three separate entities.

          More:

          And the only reason I bring this up is because the doctrine of the Trinity is a stumbling BLOCK for Muslims, and should be eradicated…
          ………………………………

          With all respect, it is not as though Muslims are rushing to convert to Unitarianism or Deism, either.

          The idea that the main stumbling block for Muslims becoming Christians being the concept of the Trinity is, I believe, quite mistaken.

          The truth is that Allah is nothing like the Christian God, and the homicidal Muslim “Jesus–“Isa”–is nothing like the Jesus of the Gospels. Not only do Muslims fail to believe he is the Savior and that he was crucified, but do not consider him a healer or a peacemaker, either. In fact, in the last days his role is to *slaughter any Christians who fail to convert to Islam*.

          Really, the whole conceptions of Islam and Christianity are very different. Islam is a supremacist and conquering creed–loving Christianity is just the opposite.

          I don’t believe Christians censoring themselves will somehow change this.

          More:

          If they could come to the realisation that God the Father & Holy Spirit ACTUALLY inhabited the body of a human being like Isaiah prophesied, lived a life of holiness for 33 years then DELIBERATELY made himself a sacrifice (the LAST SACRIFICE NEEDED) to redeem the sins of the whole world, they who love God VEHEMENTLY would turn to your Jesus-Isa!!!!!!!
          ………………………………

          As I note above, the Christian Jesus is nothing like the appalling Muslim “Jesus”. Besides the difference in his character, he is considered no more than a minor “prophet” by pious Muslims.

          They will not en mass turn to him no matter how–or if–Christians ever refer to the Trinity.

          More:

          The only thing Islam has gotten RIGHT is that God is one god.
          ………………………………

          I’m more concerned with the character of the vicious and cruel Allah than I am with his conceptual nature.

          Allah is an entirely savage deity.

          And Jews conceive of God as a single entity, yet Muslims oppress, humiliate, and murder them. It is not as though Muslims are converting to Judaism over this issue.

          More:

          Do you Christians want to convert Muslims or scare them away?
          ………………………………

          Again, I do not think that the concept of the Trinity is what is preventing pious Muslims from becoming Christian.

          How can you read this article–where Jihadists pose as Christians so that they can come to the West in order to *murder*–and assume that their only difference from their Christian victims is the for many relatively obscure nature of the Trinity?

          There is *much more* that separates those who would conquer and slaughter unbelievers and decent Christians than just this.

          More, replying to Champ:

          Champ, you sir, are a hypocrite. You have a cross at rhe end of your name, yet think I am sympathising with Muslims because I would lile to see them converted??? WTF do you do for a witness to your unsaved neigjbors? I bet ten billion bucks they all think you are arrogant and mean.
          ………………………………

          There is nothing “arrogant and mean” about Champ–nor is it true that she cares nothing about Muslims. She has often praised Muslims who have left Islam.

          More:

          So I say to hell with you Mr.Selfrighteous Christian.
          ………………………………

          This would not sound very Christian to most people…

          More:

          Lastly, Scripture is clear about the ATTITUDE people are to have when it comes to being a Christian and hopefully attempting to make believers of the Gospel. I suppose it is ok for Mr.Spencer to sound snarky- it is his mission after all. But you who are serious about batteling Islam will never get anywhere with them if you continue to be a smart ass, and that includes Robert Spencer. JUST WHAT IS HIS GOAL IF NOT TO CONVERT THE LOST?
          ………………………………

          Robert Spencer has allied many times with those who have left Islam–including Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Wafa Sultan, and Nonie Darwish–and worked to protect Muslim apostates threatened by Muslims, such as young Rifqa Bary and Malaysia’s Lina Joy.

          But his *main role* is to educate and warn *Infidels* about the threat of Islam–not to prevaricate in order to pursue the chimera of mass conversion of Muslims.

          As for his being “snarky”, I personally much appreciate his wry sense of humor. But this is largely immaterial, as well–Robert Spencer could be entirely humorless, and the idea that he would be loved by Jihadists when he dares to expose the savagery of Islam seems highly unlikely.

          Jihadists seem no more well disposed to Anti-Jihadists who are not “snarky” than they are to those with a sometimes waggish sense of humor like Robert Spencer, David Wood, or Mark Steyn.

          In fact, the usual reaction of Jihadists to those who dare warn about the threat of Islam is threats of violence and death.

        • linnte says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 9:30 pm

          The Qur’an is rife with the one God doctrine-Muslims have no clue their Allah is not the One True God. The Qur’an is also rife with calling Christians polytheists. That should be a clue right there of what they need to hear. It’s no wonder they are not “Flocking” to the Gosple of Jesus. You guys are very good at picking apart someone’s opinion, but very closed minded to the words of someone who differs from you. And that is another reason you will never win over a Muslim. I will continue to read the JW pages, but remember to not respond to your pomposity! Good luck in your mission of nothing except bolstering your own convictions.

        • Champ ✞ says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 9:24 pm

          linnte wrote:

          But you who are serious about batteling Islam will never get anywhere with them if you continue to be a smart ass …

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Of course linnte wrote more unkind things about me, but the only mean-spirited smart ass I see on this thread is linnte …

          Methinks she needs to take a long hard look in the mirror? And that’s just for starters.

          I stand by everything I’ve written — word for word — and I make no apology to linnte, or to any muslims perhaps reading this thread.

          God is my judge. Not this silly, childish “linnte” clown. Wow grow up.

        • linnte says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 9:43 pm

          Really? REALLY? It was YOU who started the degredation here not me. And as for being childish? YOU need to look in the mirror yourself. Sheesh! Your passive agressive mode of communication is designed to get a rise out of someone and then you become the victim. No wonder the World is rejecting Christianity! I am a Pagan and always will be because I have had too much love from people like you-toxic love. NOT Agape love. You know the kind- First Corinthians 13:4 love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it is not proud. It is not RUDE, it is not self seeking it is not easily angered, it keeps no record of wrongs. Reread your first “pick apart” of my opinion, then tell me how loving you are Christian woman.

        • Champ ✿ says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 9:50 pm

          Graven wrote:

          There is nothing “arrogant and mean” about Champ–nor is it true that she cares nothing about Muslims. She has often praised Muslims who have left Islam.

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Thank you, Graven.

          I appreciate your kind words; along with your reasonable and honest appraisal of who I am, and where my heart is at concerning muslims getting saved. And I firmly stand by *everything* I’ve written to her, here, and I see no reason to retract or apologize for anything. In fact, the tantrum thrown by linnte only reveals a lack of self-control, on her part, and did not persuade me to change my mind, at all.

          And the remainder of your comment to linnte was also spot on, too!

        • Champ says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 10:26 pm

          linnte is very immature, and now she wants to blame people — like me — for why she has chosen to reject Jesus Christ? Ok, tell that lame-o excuse to God when you stand before Him. And your decision not to be a Christian is NOT my responsibility — it’s linnte’s.

          Now, back to what matters most, here, on JW …

          And that’s the *dhimmi* mindset that linnte seems to suffer from. Whether or not I’m a good Christian doesn’t really matter as much, but being a good dhimmi *does* matter on this forum. Hey now there’s something to talk about.

          How about it linnte …explain to us why you’re a good dhimmi.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 11:15 pm

          linnte wrote:

          The Qur’an is rife with the one God doctrine-Muslims have no clue their Allah is not the One True God.
          ………………………………….

          Most Muslims understand that Allah is nothing like the loving God of the Gospels, whom they consider false. When they scream “Allahu Ackbar!”, part of what Muslims are asserting is that Allah is “greater” than the Christian God.

          More:

          The Qur’an is also rife with calling Christians polytheists. That should be a clue right there of what they need to hear.
          ………………………………….

          Muslims will also tell us that what they “need” to hear is Christians and other Infidels submitting to their foul creed. Why not just go whole hog–so to speak–and convert?

          More:

          It’s no wonder they are not “Flocking” to the Gosple (sic) of Jesus.
          ………………………………….

          You may assert that Christians believing in the Trinity–and Robert Spencer’s sense of humor–are the cause of violent Jihad, but it simply isn’t so.

          More:

          You guys are very good at picking apart someone’s opinion, but very closed minded to the words of someone who differs from you.
          ………………………………….

          Not at all. If you truly believe this, knock yourself out. Traveling to the Islamic State to preach non-Trinitarian Christianity might not be the wisest course, though…

          More:

          And that is another reason you will never win over a Muslim.
          ………………………………….

          Most Muslims who *have* become apostates–whether they then became Christian or otherwise–have had a private moral awakening. Others have been inspired by the kindness of Christians–something a truly devout Muslim would just consider weak.

          Let us know how your approach works out. If you meet with Jihadists abandoning their violent creed en mass for Unitarianism, no one would be happier than myself. So far, though, I haven’t noticed such a thing happening–even though I attend a Unitarian church every year. Can you explain this anomaly?

          Another question–how many Muslims have *you* “won over” so far?

          More:

          I will continue to read the JW pages, but remember to not respond to your pomposity! Good luck in your mission of nothing except bolstering your own convictions.
          ………………………………….

          Actually, we here oppose JIhad. What exactly is it that you do, besides chiding Christians for not altering their beliefs to cater to Muslims, and Anti-Jihadists to watch their sense of humor if they know what’s good for them?

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 13, 2016 at 3:35 pm

          Thanks, Champ.

          And we hear this sort of thing all the time–if only we would change our values, ideals, beliefs, or behavior, that Muslims would stop waging violent Jihad against us.

          Other “favorites” that apologists put forth are that if only Western women were less independent and more “modest” that we would not “offend” Muslims, or that if only we curtailed our freedom of speech and didn’t dare say anything critical of the sanguinary horror of Islam, that Muslims would be mollified.

          As with the assertion that Muslims would convert to Christianity en mass if only Christians stopped referring to the Trinity, it is absurd.

          The idea that we need to compromise our values in order to *appease* violent evil is not only morally appalling, it is also something that will by its very nature never work.

        • Champ ✿ says

          Jan 13, 2016 at 4:00 pm

          Graven, I wholly agree with your comment. Appeasing muslims could also be a dangerous tact, as well. Taking such an approach is *never* a good idea and on so many levels.

          You wrote:

          “And we hear this sort of thing all the time–if only we would change our values, ideals, beliefs, or behavior, that Muslims would stop waging violent Jihad against us.”

          So true, Graven!

          And this faulty thinking *really* reared it’s ugly head in response to the “Draw Muhammad” contest — where so many non-muslims cried out against this form of free expression, just so not to upset muslims any further.

    • Robert Arthur Gillis says

      Jan 10, 2016 at 11:22 pm

      !!! – This commenter’s ‘Advisory’ is straight to the point, but it is a ‘bit’ “Risky” Don’t ‘Lose’ your Head over just one ‘Phishing’ Technique! Be prepared, WHEN you “Insult” their Paedophile Prophet! A ‘Baseball Bat, is an effective deterrent to trouble!”

      • Champ says

        Jan 10, 2016 at 11:27 pm

        LOL!! ..great advice 🙂

      • Harry says

        Jan 11, 2016 at 7:54 pm

        Well – I reckon any moslem reading this article as well as the terrorist handbook will be better able to pass for a Christian now, even discussing the intricacies of heresies such as unitarianism!

        • linnte says

          Jan 11, 2016 at 9:59 pm

          Hello all… Does anyone know how to email Robert Spencer directly? I would just like to ask him to leave off the snarky (but I really DO ENJOY THESE REMARKS) remarks when posting JW articles that can be shared on Facebook. The reason is, that sets a tone that immediately causes people who may be interested in reading about what he has to say, become defensive about their position on Islam. Like I was before I started reading the Qur’an and WOKE UP! Does he read these comments I wonder? I know he is very busy with his work! Thanks!

        • Champ says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 3:57 pm

          linnte wants Robert’s address so she can contact him to ask him to tone it down for her Facebook friends? Odd.

          And in another comment — on this same thread — linnte would have us omit the word “trinity” so we don’t scare off muslims? What?!! Hey muslims can’t handle the truth, from anyone, so linnte needs to take aim at THEM.

          Wow linnte sure seems very sympathetic to muslims …

          First, she wants to censure Robert’s writing style, and now she wants to censure Christians, in the comments section, so Robert and the rest of us don’t *OFFEND* muslims? I find this very telling and odd of someone who’s supposedly anti-islamic.

          Methinks linnte needs to *wake up* a LOT more by not demonstrating such strong dhimmi leanings, and NOT ask the rest of us to follow in her dhimmi course of action, too. No way and no thank you! Jeez I love newbies but she takes the cake …

        • Mirren10 says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 5:05 pm

          I noted the exact same things, Champ. Well said.

        • Champ says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 5:17 pm

          Thank you, Mirren10.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 10:43 pm

          linnte wrote:

          Hello all… Does anyone know how to email Robert Spencer directly? I would just like to ask him to leave off the snarky (but I really DO ENJOY THESE REMARKS) remarks when posting JW articles that can be shared on Facebook. The reason is, that sets a tone that immediately causes people who may be interested in reading about what he has to say, become defensive about their position on Islam…
          ………………………………

          You can send Robert Spencer any message you would like at “Contact Jihad Watch”, which–depending on the configuration of your page–is at the right hand side or bottom of this page.

          But it *is* odd that you would consider it “snarky” to point out that all too many in the West–including security authorities and much of the media–are in willful denial over the fact that Jihad terrorists are acting on the tenets of Islam.

          Doesn’t this horrifying article rather *confirm* that fact?

          And I would not assume that those in deep denial about the terrible threat of Islam would be open to hearing about it if only those pointing it out were not “snarky”. After all, it is not as though those ranting about “Islamophobes” are any more open to listening to Anti-Jihadists who may be dryer in style than Mr. Spencer.

        • linnte says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 11:10 pm

          Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels and have not love, I am as asounding cymbal….

          That’s all I want Graven, Champ and the other person. I want to REACH people who are stuck in Islam because I CARE. You care also. I want to reach my Liberal friends who have no clue how heinous Islam is and have bought it hook line and sinker, that Islam is a religion of peace.

          I see this JW as an asset. Robert Spencer is a genius. But what someone said is “dry” humor is not dry at all to me-it is sarcastic, and sarcasm will not win anyone except the people who already are won. Clearly you view me as an enemy, so I will just watch and listen and not speak my opinion. I am sure that will make you all happy. So good bye and good luck and Blessings of Brighid of the Green Mantle be with you for your inspiration.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 10:54 pm

          True, Champ and Mirren.

        • Champ says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 11:30 pm

          linnte wrote:

          Clearly you view me as an enemy, so I will just watch and listen and not speak my opinion. I am sure that will make you all happy. So good bye and good luck …

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          This response is so dysfuntional that I hardly know where to begin. No one called linnte an “enemy”. If being a dhimmi is an enemy, in here mind, then so be it. But dhimmi’s are not enemies in my book.

          This describes a dhimmi, in part …

          “The belief that Moslem Arab powers respond to overtures of peace by ending their aggression is but a mirage in the desert. This is proven time and again to be a delusion and is, in fact, a classic example of the mindset and behavior of the dhimmi.”

          On this thread linnte demonstrates her dhimmi leanings by attempting to censure both Robert Spencer AND Christians in an effort to appease and attract more muslims to this site. She’s wrongheaded in this effort and doesn’t even know it, or see it, yet. Perhaps one day linnte will see it and Thank me for pointing out such folly. But I doubt it, she’s too busy sharing her OWN point of view and not the least bit interested in reading how other’s *respond* to her offerings.

          Remember linnte, you were the first one to criticize Christians in your above comment. And how dare I have a response to said criticism. Oh gosh excuse ME for having an opinion, too.

          linnte wrote above:

          linnte says
          January 12, 2016 at 2:02 pm

          Do you Christians want to convert Muslims or scare them away? Do you WANT them to remain Muslims? The use of the word TRINITY is neither in the Bible, nor is it substantiated by scripture. The baptism of Jesus was a perfect example of the “Oneness” of God, and the omnipotence of God. If you really think about it, the Father in this example was just a VOICE like Moses burning bush. There are MANY different ways God has appeared to the people but He Himself NEVER dedifferentiates Himself as three. Only ONE. Put down your millenia of dogma and theology and embrace the actual words of the Scripture!!! You will make converts instead of enemies. Isn’t this the altruistic goal here anyway? To bring them the Gosple of Jesus?

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Seems that linnte just wants to speak her mind and we’re all suppose to just take it! ..oh please. Jihad Watch can be a tough neighborhood, and this is not MrRogers Neighborhood.

          Lastly, linnte really does need a mirror so she can better examine her *many* double standards.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 13, 2016 at 5:05 pm

          linnte wrote:

          Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels and have not love, I am as asounding cymbal….
          …………………………..

          Is this quote from 1 Corinthians 13:1 intended to be critical of Anti-Jihadists here? I’m afraid that demanding that Christians alter their beliefs in order to cater to the demands of violent Muslims is not something I would consider indicative *of love*.

          More:

          That’s all I want Graven, Champ and the other person. I want to REACH people who are stuck in Islam because I CARE.
          …………………………..

          This is great. Please keep us posted on how your efforts to convert Muslims go. But do be careful–I’m not at all convinced that you will avoid “offending” supremacist Mohammedans simply by avoiding mentioning the Trinity.

          Pious Muslims hate and despise the “filthy Infidel”, and they consider proselytizing a faith other than Islam to be forbidden, and often react violently to such overtures.

          “Muslim Extremist Attacks Christian Street Preacher…”

          http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/muslim-extremist-attacks-christian-street-preacher-guess-happened-next/

          I am not urging you not to proceed–but do be careful.

          More:

          You care also. I want to reach my Liberal friends who have no clue how heinous Islam is and have bought it hook line and sinker, that Islam is a religion of peace.

          I see this JW as an asset. Robert Spencer is a genius. But what someone said is “dry” humor is not dry at all to me-it is sarcastic, and sarcasm will not win anyone except the people who already are won.
          …………………………..

          There are other Anti-Jihadists–many of them quite good–who don’t use humor at all. Perhaps you would feel more comfortable citing them.

          More:

          Clearly you view me as an enemy, so I will just watch and listen and not speak my opinion. I am sure that will make you all happy.
          …………………………..

          I don’t view you as an enemy at all. I am rather tired of the demands of dhimmis, though, who repeatedly tell us that if only we altered our beliefs and convictions that Muslims would no longer enslave and murder us–in other words, that violent Jihad is the fault of *its victims*.

          More:

          So good bye and good luck and Blessings of Brighid of the Green Mantle be with you for your inspiration.
          …………………………..

          Interesting–this imagery is used more by Wiccans than by Christians (although this Celtic goddess is also associated with St. Bridget). You should know that Muslims despise Wiccans and neo-Pagans as much as they do Christians.

          Another reason to exercise caution while approaching Mohammedans.

        • Champ ✿ says

          Jan 13, 2016 at 5:31 pm

          Hi, Graven …

          Above linnte stated that she’s a Pagan, not a Christian:

          linnte says
          January 12, 2016 at 9:43 pm

          “Really? REALLY? It was YOU who started the degredation here not me. And as for being childish? YOU need to look in the mirror yourself. Sheesh! Your passive agressive mode of communication is designed to get a rise out of someone and then you become the victim. No wonder the World is rejecting Christianity! I am a Pagan and always will be because I have had too much love from people like you-toxic love.”

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          This could explain the odd phrase she used in her Good-bye comment — last paragraph.

          Perhaps linnte was *once* a Christian, and she has fallen away. I don’t know for sure. Only God knows.

          But one thing’s for certain, linnte has a major chip on her shoulder toward Christians. Notice that it didn’t take much, from me, to set her off …

          And I’ve read, and reread, my comments to her, and I can’t for the life of me figure out *why* she went on such a tear against me — not unless she does in fact have a preset chip on her shoulder.

          I said nothing “mean-spirited” or even “unloving” that might qualify me as a “hypocrite”, even in her book. I was honest about her dhimmi leanings — which both you and Mirren10 recognized, too. But such honest statements hardly qualifies me for the things that she’s leveled at me.

          So I think linnte has a history of negative thoughts — and maybe she has developed a certain contempt or even hatred — toward Christians, in general. That’s the only thing that makes sense to me, since my comments to linnte didn’t warrant the abuse from her.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 13, 2016 at 6:07 pm

          Champ ✿ wrote:

          Hi, Graven …

          Above linnte stated that she’s a Pagan, not a Christian
          ……………………….

          Thank you, Champ–I had missed that important detail. That does change the nature of what linnte has said here–I thought she herself was interested in converting Muslims to some sort of Christianity–instead, it just looks as though she is blaming Christians for Muslims refusing to convert to Christianity and for continuing to wage violent Jihad. Much nastier.

          Not that I believe most neo-Pagans think this way.

          linnte should know that Muslims hate Wiccans and neo-Pagans every bit as much as they do Christians–the Qur’an, in fact, is full of exhortations for Muslims to slaughter Pagans, and Muslims regularly murder those suspected of practicing “witchcraft”, even of the most innocent sort, such as reading horoscopes.

  5. Hope says

    Jan 10, 2016 at 7:31 pm

    Ooh, Christian terrorists, every American news journalist’s dream come true! Won’t Anderson Cooper and all of the boys and girls at Crescent News Network be excited!

  6. milad meah says

    Jan 10, 2016 at 7:39 pm

    Islamic State manual tells jihadis to pretend to be Christians – OBAMA IS DOING IT

    • Peter Charles says

      Jan 10, 2016 at 7:51 pm

      Other than the media, who has he fooled?

      • Solomon says

        Jan 11, 2016 at 2:17 am

        “Other than the media, who has he fooled?”

        71% of the electorate. Fools galore.

      • Budvarakbar says

        Jan 11, 2016 at 6:48 am

        BS – the media is in on it – owned and controlled by the same bastards that own and control Obama

        • EYESOPEN says

          Jan 12, 2016 at 2:05 am

          Concur.

    • dlbrand says

      Jan 11, 2016 at 1:37 am

      It is in line with words, that, according to Islam, hailed straight from the “prophet’s” mouth: conceal your Islam.

  7. Johan says

    Jan 10, 2016 at 7:41 pm

    Last month a story arose in the media of some supposed Muslim converts to evangelical Christianity going into Catholic churches – during Mass – and warning congregants to repent, and abandon their “idols.” When I watched the videos I immediately suspected taqiyya: having known actual Muslim converts to Christianity (evangelical as well as Catholic), something just didn’t seem right about these guys…..

    I suspect (although I cannot prove it) that these are (unconverted) Muslims posing as Christians. Any thoughts?

    Here are a couple of videos:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QvBriRSess

  8. Jay Boo says

    Jan 10, 2016 at 8:12 pm

    Let us not be fooled.
    As soon as these cross wearing / cross-dressing Muslim men start re-growing their 5 o’clock shadow beards all of their kill-crazy instincts to howl at the moon while wearing Islamic man-dresses returns to reveal their true motives.

  9. Matthieu Baudin says

    Jan 10, 2016 at 8:33 pm

    Looks like they have learned some lessons from the current crop of Algerian fanatical Jihadis.
    These are people that thrive in the cauldron of public chaos and fear.

  10. Alan Fontana says

    Jan 10, 2016 at 8:56 pm

    Countermeasures: Ask him what he got for Christmas. If he’s wearing a cross talk about Jesus incessantly. Blow up a paper bag and pop it.. see if you can get an allahu-akbar out of him.

    • Infidela says

      Jan 11, 2016 at 6:11 am

      Obama doesn’t give his daughters christmas presents or birthday presents. Muslims don’t give their children christmas ;or birthday presents.

      • Oppressaphobe says

        Jan 11, 2016 at 9:12 am

        Yes, I noticed that!

        Remember in the past, the media would report about what gifts the first family were giving?

  11. PrayerWarrior says

    Jan 10, 2016 at 9:24 pm

    This is in line with muslim historical techniques of Taqiya.

    627 AD.

    http://www.meforum.org/2095/islams-doctrines-of-deception

    [quote]
    During the Battle of the Trench (627 AD), which pitted Muhammad and his followers against several non-Muslim tribes collectively known as “the Confederates”, a Confederate called Naim bin Masud went to the Muslim camp and converted to Islam. When Muhammad discovered the Confederates were unaware of Masud’s conversion, he counseled him to return and try somehow to get his tribesmen to abandon the siege. “For war is deceit,” Muhammad assured him.

    Masud returned to the Confederates without their knowledge that he had switched sides and began giving his former kin and allies bad advice. He also went to great lengths to instigate quarrels between the various tribes until, thoroughly distrusting each other, they disbanded and lifted the siege. According to this account, deceit saved Islam during its embryonic stage (see Al-Taqiyya Fi Al-Islam; also, Ibn Ishaq’s Sira, the earliest biography of Muhammad). [quote/]

    1504 AD:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taqiya

    [quote] Kraemer, Joel L. (2010). Maimonides: The Life and World of One of Civilization’s Greatest Minds. New York: Doubleday. pp. 100–101. ISBN 978-0-385-51200-8. Retrieved 26 May 2011. “A responsum (fatwa) by ‘Ubaydallah al-Wahrani, issued in December 1504, permitted [the Moriscos] to exercise prudent dissimulation (taqiyya) by pretending to be Christians. “

  12. John says

    Jan 10, 2016 at 11:57 pm

    The best solution give them Pork.

  13. christchurch_mark says

    Jan 11, 2016 at 2:08 am

    Christianity starts off as faith but it inst faith alone. the fact that we exist is proof enough for sum.
    The bible is full of personal contact with god.
    2 billion plus ppl now and billions more dont just believe in Jesus/god for fun. they/we have had the truth revealed or passed on.
    the ignorance of some boggles the mind

  14. Solomon says

    Jan 11, 2016 at 2:19 am

    Shiiite man, Hussein Obama could’ve WRITTEN this manual. He was at least one of the inspirations, I’d wager.

    • Robert Laity says

      Jan 11, 2016 at 3:19 am

      Obama is a Sunni.

  15. Georges says

    Jan 11, 2016 at 2:58 am

    You know, the whole thing – and more – has casually been available in arabic for a long time (https://archive.org/details/memoona1). Maybe the FBI and the CIA should be more concerned about how to counter that ideology with anti-ideology.

  16. Robert Laity says

    Jan 11, 2016 at 3:18 am

    Obama mocked the Bible.has bibles burned in Afghanistan, said that the “Muslim call to prayer is the Prettiest sound on Earth”, speaks Arabic,wears a ring with alahu Akbar” on it , ordered our troops to handle the Koran with white gloves,bought a house in Dubai,bowed to the King of Saudi Arabia, referred to his “Muslim faith”, said he’s stand with Muslims, supports “Zakat” and then says “I am a Christian”. Is he a Christian? Is the Pope a Buddhist?

  17. BC USSA says

    Jan 11, 2016 at 4:15 am

    Re: The Trinity

    The trinity is easily explained using a traditional family symbolism.

    The man is a living being (soul, spirit)
    He is the son to his father, as well as, the father to his son.

  18. Renee says

    Jan 11, 2016 at 8:00 am

    “A silver ring could tell you are religious, as Islam forbids wearing gold rings for men. “

    Interesting, wonder why that is so.
    Perhaps it needs no reason, because a lot of the laws in islam have no basis other than being a law.

    • Oppressaphobe says

      Jan 11, 2016 at 9:18 am

      True, a very LEGALISTIC so-called religion.

      That’s what people need to understand about Islam. If they knew the Bible at all they would understand that Jesus spoke AGAINST LEGALISM. Then they could easily see this BS for what it is.

      But because the Left don’t know their own Bible, they will fall for anything, especially if it’s wrapped in a robe or a headscarf—easily fooled.

    • saturnine says

      Jan 11, 2016 at 10:40 pm

      According to https://islamqa.info/en/219

      “In the area of clothing and adornment, men are forbidden the extravagance of wearing gold.”

      No justification is offered other than the implication that it’s vain.

      Take a look at that page and behold the (probably incomplete) list of restrictions with which Muslims must comply. They might consider having a Jewish lawyer with them when standing before Allah.

  19. TH says

    Jan 11, 2016 at 9:23 am

    Regarding not understanding the Trinity or considering that faith and understanding are incompatible: Like most matters theological , one has to distinguish. St. Augustine, who wrote one of the most important treatises treatises on the Trinity in the whole of Christian history, stated about God, “if you comprehend Him, then it is not God”. However, comprehend means perfectly understand but does not exclude a partial understanding of the notion that God is one essence or nature and three persons. Islam and some of the above comments are raising a strawman in order to shoot it down. If someone like St. Augustine, who happened to have one of the brightest minds in history, and a host of other theologians did study it and make explanations on the matter, then the obvious conclusion is that it mustn’t be absurd and instead of rejecting the doctrine without making any attempt to study the reasonable explanations that exist by the likes of St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, then they ought to refrain from commenting and rejecting something they have made no effort to understand. They don’t go and tell NASA how they should be building their rockets if they know nothing about rocket science. Islam rejects the Trinity, but what it understands as the Trinity is light years away from Christian trinitarian doctrine. We also reject what Islam understands as the Trinity because it is a total misunderstaning.

  20. citycat says

    Jan 11, 2016 at 11:06 am

    I was approached in the High Street by two such Muslims.
    I know the Muslim vibe.
    They had the cheek to confidently say,
    “Hello”
    Well, i wasn’t having that, so i stared blankly and said nothing, giving them no info.
    They walked on looking for the easy intro. They will find it. There’s a few that have wormed their way into people’s lives.
    Safety is compromised by lack of awareness and cohesion within the locals.
    One has to be alert to the danger 24/7.
    A lone wolf could catapult out a drunken infidel’s eye, or squirt nasty liquid from a water pistol, or knife slash an unaware infidel, or pull out a gun, or more dangerous is words leading the infidel into a trap, or words to be invited to the dumb enemy infidel’s world.
    In the infidel’s mushy world the infidels on the street are strangers often, whereas Muslims will have predetermined cohesion, like on a train, in the Mall, and in all gatherings.
    Infidels are divided into Hindus, Christians, Buddhists, Jews, etc etc etc

  21. Sam says

    Jan 11, 2016 at 2:10 pm

    For America this is really a great danger ( like we did not have it before). Jihadis who are clean cut Mormon looking youth infiltrating all over in the United states is very lethal. Give it to Allah. He is the best of the tricksters.

    We are really losing the war against Islam. Because we have not even started fighting it. Insanity!!!!

    • dlbrand says

      Jan 12, 2016 at 2:22 am

      Sam said: ” We are really losing the war against Islam. Because we have not even started fighting it. Insanity!!!!”

      Yup, in a word.

  22. somehistory says

    Jan 11, 2016 at 2:13 pm

    If they follow this, dress as they think a Christian would, enter and kill and are, perhaps, killed, the media will say it was a “Christian” and has everything to do with Christianity. There will be no one in authority or the media saying they were *mentally ill* or that he/she could not be, or is not, Christian, but the ruse will be complete.

    The damage will be done to the lives of the dead and injured and the damage will be done to Christians who truly are Christians and would never do such a thing while making the claim Christ or God wanted or instructed him/her to do such a thing.

    islam is a beast. In every sense of the word, all of the images that come to mind by the word, islam is beastly and straight from satan the devil. The Bible says that satan “transforms himself into an angel of light.” (2 Cor. 11:14) Christians should not be surprised that he has instructed moslims to endeavor to conceal their ugly, demonic teaching by pretending to be Christian and doing so in order to murder as the devil is the original murderer.

    (Revelation 13)

    • dlbrand says

      Jan 12, 2016 at 2:24 am

      “the ruse,” indeed, simply a tenet of the Islamic faith.

      • linnte says

        Jan 12, 2016 at 2:39 am

        The Christian Ruse- I really think the truth will out if Muslims dress/act as Christians. The family will have to pick up their bodys if they get killed so that will ID them. If they disappear and don’t get caught, victims will have to ident them. Someone will squeel, someone will stumble accross the correct info. Hopefull the FBI will have thought of this already.

  23. (Dr.) Sandy Kramer says

    Jan 11, 2016 at 2:16 pm

    Some Westerners (who should know better) say Obama could not really be a Muslim because of his supposed non-Islamic behaviour. They make reference to nonsense such as Obama’s attendance at Jeremiah Wright’s “church” !!!, etc Your presentation puts that nonsense to rest. Keep up the good work. God bless.

  24. Stephanie says

    Jan 11, 2016 at 3:12 pm

    Well, I read the publication (which made me feel physically ill) and it does NOT say that lone wolves should “pretend to be Christians” but rather they could allow others to think that if they could get away with it, by wearing a cross so long as they didn’t have a Muslim name because that would seem strange.

    So I would not expect Islamic terrorists to go around saying that they are Christians in order to avoid suspicion.

  25. Champ says

    Jan 11, 2016 at 4:57 pm

    Why do mohammedans need to pretend to be a Christian, when hiding in the shadows and attacking without warning is much more ..honest.

  26. Western Canadian says

    Jan 11, 2016 at 8:09 pm

    Sadly, challenging them on the J/C scripture wouldn’t always expose a muslim… How many ‘Christians” actually know what their books actually say??

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