“Pakistanis should consider themselves fortunate that Allah has bestowed the honour to wage war against India to them.” Unfortunately, many do.
“Allah has bestowed Pakistanis the honour to destroy India, kill Hindus: Islamic cleric,” Zee News, January 3, 2016 (thanks to Lookmann):
New Delhi: Columnist and author Tarek Fateh on Sunday shared a video of a prominent Islamic cleric and former banker Irfan-ul-Haq provoking Pakistanis to destroy idol worship in India and kill Hindus.
In a lecture which the author said was held in 2011, the cleric said that if there is a place on earth where people worship stone idols, it is the Indian Subcontinent.
“Pakistanis should consider themselves fortunate that Allah has bestowed the honour to wage war against India to them,” the cleric said.
The cleric further went on to claim that the Prophet had said that there will be a war in India that will be ‘Ghazwa-e-Hind’.
“The genesis of Pakistan was prophesied to defeat India and Hinduism at the hands of Pakistan,” he further added.
abad says
India needs to do what Myanmar did – throw out Muslims in the nation and send them to a Muslim nation.
Syria, perhaps.
nicu says
Syria must be empty – seeing all the ” Syrian refugees ” invading Europe !
gabi says
Syria had 10% Christians – though Syria was mostly Christian in Byzantine times till 640, when it was conquered by Arabs. So, sending all Muslims in Syria isn’t a good idea. Why not Saudi Arabia? They have plenty of sand there for these “refugees”.
aspy says
Saudis don’t want refugees n the headache which those indoctrinated morons (all of which is Saudi ‘doing’) will bring to their backyard. Instead this is a God send boon for their sick ideology of invading non-Islamic nations n imposing it on them which the western nations are foolishly inviting.
ballotcode says
Allah has bestowed Pakistanis the honor to destroy
Proof again, Allah is NOT God. It is something else that
has promised to destroy and deceive.
Elremg says
Their Allah god is actually Satan and their false prophet is Mohammad.
Mohammad is a very diabolical being – a rapist, a mass murderer who enjoyed spilling the blood of the innocents, a pedophile, a robber, an extortionist, a liar, a deceiver; practiced incest by marrying the wife of his adopted son; a bandit, a monster.
KnowThyEnemy says
There is more evidence that Muhammad was Satan’s incarnation, not “God’s messenger”! The mullah in the video says Hindus worship stone idols. Well the Hindus do it because doing so is not incompatible with the belief system. They are not “going against their religion” or disobeying their God!
Worshiping anyone or anything other than God however, is definitely against Abrahmic religions and Muhammad knew this full well. Yet he revered the black stone at Kaaba!
Muhammad clearly rebelled against God! ….And everyone who knows Judaism, Christianity, or Islam, knows that it was the Devil who rebelled against God!
Needless to say, Muhammad was from the Devil, not from God!
Annak says
Indeed….Muslims whole faith centers around their pagan- idol metorite stone in their Mecca “Holy “city which they run around after often causing stampedes crushing many, for forgiveness of sins, and kiss it. (at least what an ex-muslim told me. )
And before or after (?) throw stones at it,…. when it is the devil…?!
KnowThyEnemy says
@AnnaK,
Actually, Muslims touch and kiss that stone simply to mimic Muhammad, just as apes do! According to a hadith, one of Muhammad’s companion kissed the stone only because he saw Mo do it-
When Hindus worship a stone, they do it because they see the stone as a symbol of their deity (among other reasons), that is, when they are worshiping the stone, they are actually worshiping the deity, not the stone. This is similar to Christians worshiping the cross. However, when Umar ibn al-Khattab kissed the stone (read: venerated), he did it simply to mimic Muhammad. He was not seeing (imagining) any deity in it! That is clearly idolatry! All Muslims who revere the black stone are idolaters, and are major sinners per their own religion!
Conclusion: It is the Muslims who are stone-worshipers, not the Hindus. Hindus worship *the deity* that the stone represents, not the stone!
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Also notice two paragraphs down (on wikipedia page) the explanation that a Muslim scholar provides:
So according to this guy, the black stone is a symbol of [right hand of] invisible God. Well that is exactly what the Hindu idols are! ….. They are symbols of their deity! I am willing to bet that this was the case also with pre-Islamic Meccan idols. Those idols represented the deities that the polytheistic Quraish worshiped.
Yet Muslims accuse the Hindus of stone-worship, but somehow cannot see that they are doing the same, and worse (as what al-Khattab did)! I suppose they don’t see it because if they do, Muhammad’s fraud will be apparent. So it is better to not see. Ignorance is bliss!
gravenimage says
Muslim cleric: Allah has given Pakistanis the honor of killing Hindus
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Murdering innocent Infidels: the greatest form of Muslim “worship”.
“Hamas: ‘Killing Jews is worship that draws us close to Allah’”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/11/hamas-killing-jews-is-worship-that-draws-us-close-to-allah
God, I hate Islam.
mortimer says
WE KNEW THIS…
The cleric said: ““Allah has bestowed Pakistanis the honour to destroy India”
That’s what makes Pakistan so special and loved. This supremacist attitude is prevalent and ensures Pakistan for years to come will be a center of hatred, revenge, murder, savagery, backwardness, destruction and carnage.
Lovely country. Don’t give Pakistan a cent in foreign aid until they improve their human rights and put these bigots out of business.
Pakistan especially needs to be deprogrammed out of Islam. They are having a civil war.
richie says
Wasnt the point of creating the Islamic state of Pakistan to keep Muslims from spreading their savagery over the Hindus in the rest of India?
Bezelel says
Religion of peace?
Westman says
Bid’ah is the Achillies Heel of Pakistan and the strength of India. Pakistan is being left in the dust of its neighbor because it is impaled on the intransigence of Islam.
No greater retrograde force exists to the economic and social avancement of humanity than Islam. It stopped any real progress in Arab science by 1100 A.D.
Only an addled Muslim cleric would stand behind an arrangement of beautiful flowers and call for destruction and genocide on India. This call has not, and will not be taken up by the military junta that actually controls the country because of the reality that it would mean the destruction of Pakistan and the end of the Army’s privileged status.
Avesta says
What is Pakistan…..?
An imaginary nation-state with illusions of grandeur but no history that is, in fact, an illegitimate by-product of departure of the British from the Indian sub-continent cannot and does not have God nor honour…………! Regardless of how many Islamabads the Pakis build, they’ll still be a nation-state without any roots or history.
COCKROACHES………!!!!!!!!!
gerard says
“Allah has bestowed Pakistanis the honour to destroy India, kill Hindus”
There you have it! Death and destruction…. Islam! From the mouth of a muslim cleric!
Singh the Sikh says
A beastly religion, too many of whose followers turn into beasts. After all the religion was inspired by the beast itself. Muslims in India who do not like India should do themselves and everyone else a favour and just leave. In Pakistan they can do the sunni-shia thing to their hearts content, and satisfy the blood-lust inherent to Islam.
sidney penny says
Change this Russian story to Pakistan and get the same result.
“What? An imam? Inconceivable! How could a man who has dedicated his life to understanding Islam correctly and teaching it to others properly get the crazy, Islamophobic idea that jihad had something to do with killing Infidels? How could he have misunderstood Islam so spectacularly, and in such an utterly unprecedented way? John Kerry and the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops should team up forthwith and send an Expert on Islam (say, some learned non-Muslim State Department wonk, or an Eastern Catholic bishop who speaks Arabic and can thus communicate with this poor, benighted mullah, who almost certainly knows Arabic in addition to his native language) over to Russia to teach this imam the true, peaceful nature of Islam. This misunderstanding can be easily cleared up as soon as the two of them sit down together and open up the Qur’an, and breathe in its soothing words of peace.”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/01/russia-imam-arrested-weapons-and-explosives-found-in-mosque
ICH says
Do they like anyone?
Matthieu Baudin says
Bring Cleric Irfan-ul-Haq over here and let me vomit over him. Good lord, the rubbish we have to put up with!
Singh the Sikh says
The nerve of the bastard. Blithely and calmly inciting mass murder at a public forum, with no fear of repercussions. This can only happen in Muslim nations. It shows how vile and backward Pakistan is as a country; how little it has progressed, that hate speeches can be made routinely without any police action. Pakistani filth like Irfan-ul-Haq can be found aplenty in Britain, preaching a similar message at maddrasses. Britain has no problems allowing islamist hate mongers in the country but bars Robert Spencer and Pamela Gallagher. Islamists incite murder and call for genocide with impunity, in the face of mute western leaders. The same leaders are quick to shout down and demonise people who react in self defence to the Islamist threat. Imagine the outrage if some prominent Jewish or Indian preacher had called for the slaughter of Palestinians or Pakistanis. Western leaders like Cameron and Obama would have jumped to be the first to condemn any such utterances. Through their silence and double standards, such leaders embolden islamist hate mongers and endanger citizens. They lend terrorists a helping hand by inaction and by spreading the ‘religion of peace’ lies and propaganda. They too have the blood of innocents on their hands by continuing with a deadly immigration/refugee policy, even in the face of all the evidence in blood and gore. The dead, and their loved ones, condemned to a life of pain and suffering, is little concern to the leaders. They probably see the victims as collateral damage. They seem bent on creating more victims with their brazen migrant policies. More should be done to expose such failed leaders and bring them to account.
Peter roberts says
Mr Singh … Greetings mate and totally and utterly agree with you !!. Until we accept that primarily Sunni salafists and wahabi fundamentalists are evil backward hate mongers we will not turn this tide of violence ….most Sunnis are okey and moderate but those two groups within Sunni are evil … They want us to go back in time to the 400 yrs after the so called prophet was born when because they were pure God rewarded them with multiple victories and conquests !! . We in Britain need to shut all salafists fundamentalist mosques down now and lock up or expel all hate spreading I mans / clerics etc . The sooner science proves their is no god the better as far as lm concerned !!
Singh the Sikh says
Hello Peter,
Greetings from down under buddy.
One does not like to generalize but it’s easy to overlook the moderates when they are mostly quiet in the face of all the atrocities and surface only to protest against anti terror moves or to cheer bin laden. Besides, they unwittingly and even even wittingly act as a buffer for the extremists who use them as a cover. The greater their numbers, the better for the extremists. Unfortunately the moderates, if they exist, are part of the problem.
Matt Barber has written an exellent piece on the moderate Muslim myth, calling it an oxymoron and backs his article with data such as the following:
– l45 percent of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent “mainstream Islam.” BBC Radio (2015).
-1.5 Million British Muslims support the Islamic State, about half their total population. ICM (Mirror) Poll 2015.
– 38.6 percent of Western Muslims believe 9/11 attacks were justified. Gallup (2011).
– 45 percent of British Muslims agree that clerics preaching violence against the West represent “mainstream Islam.” BBC Radio (2015).
dumbledoresarmy says
You mentioned someone discussing the whole “moderate Muslim” myth.
“Matt Barber has written an exellent piece on the moderate Muslim myth.”
Someone else has also written a great article on the same topic. It was featured here at Jihadwatch only a little while ago, and I copied and kept it, because it made things so much clearer. A good one to keep up one’s sleeve for future reference.
William Kilpatrick, “The Vast Majority Myth”.
http://www.crisismagazine.com/2015/the-vast-majority-myth
and then there is something else, that came up in a comments thread to an op ed published by Australia’s ABC.
Here’s the link for the original article (with comments attached).
http://www.abc.net.au/religion/articles/2014/05/15/4005307.htm
And here’s the text of the comment, which was so striking that I instantly made a copy and tucked it away. The speaker identifies himself as having been born and raised as a non-Muslm – to be precise, an Iraqi Christian – within an overwhelmingly-Muslim country.
Here’s how he describes everyday life under those conditions.
DAVID :
16 May 2014 2:51:59pm
“As a christian who grew up in Iraq, for the 19 years that I lived in Iraq, not a day passed by and I wasn’t being targeted by the every day Muslims that I got to deal with. Neighbours, school mates, colleagues and the list goes on.
“Perhaps, Scott [another commenter – dda] needs to live in a Muslim community to understand what a hell it is to be a non-muslim living amongst muslims.
”Then he will understand that it isn’t just the fanatic Islamists that are targeting the non-muslims, but in fact the average muslim citizens that are, in one way or another, are targeting anyone who doesn’t share them their religion.
“I wonder how would Waleed [Waleed Aly, a very prominent Muslim spin-doctor resident in Australia – dda] justify what Quaran states clearly: ”They but wish that ye should reject Faith, as they do, and thus be on the same footing (as they): But take not friends from their ranks until they flee in the way of Allah (From what is forbidden). But if they turn renegades, seize them and slay them wherever ye find them; and (in any case) take no friends or helpers from their ranks.”” END QUOTE
It’s a really important point that this non-Dhimmi Iraqi Christian, “David”, now happily resident in Australia, is making here.
To repeat: “As a christian who grew up in Iraq, for the 19 years that I lived in Iraq, not a day passed by and I wasn’t being targeted by the every day Muslims that I got to deal with. Neighbours, school mates, colleagues and the list goes on. ”
See that – “targeted by **the every-day Muslims that I got to deal with”.
More – “….it isn’t just the fanatic Islamists that are targeting the non-muslims, but in fact the average muslim citizens that are, in one way or another, are targeting anyone who doesn’t share them their religion. ”
There’s that ‘peaceful majority’ that everyone likes to waffle on about…and *that*’s how way, way too many – most likely MOST of them behave, when they have the upper hand, when they are the majority and the Infidels are a powerless minority trapped in their midst, at their mercy. They show NO mercy. They are mean as Hell toward Infidels, every opportunity that they get, in ways both small and great.
Not jihadis. Bog-standard ordinary everyday Muslims.
gravenimage says
Peter, it is not just “Salafists” and “Wahabbis” who follow the violence of Islam–it is *any* pious Muslims of any sect. If you read the Qur’an and the Hadith, and look at the model of the vicious “Prophet”, you will see that such violence is intrinsic to Islam.
hari says
No Hindu worships stone per se. There famous festival in India called Ganesh chaturthi, at the end of which the Hindus themselves take the idols/ moorthis( manifestation of the divine) – idol is a word with different connotations- and drop them in the river where they dissolve.
The vision of sanatana dharma – given the name hindu by the Greeks to the people living by the banks of the Sindhu river- is that the universe itself is god. Every particle of it. Stone mud living non living liquid gas plasma… All of it.
Moreover, consciousness itself is God in this vision. Every thought is a vibration of this consciousness and is hence God. The vision is so broad. The basic difference between this and the abrahamic faith is that there is no distinction between maker and material.
Hence God has infinite forms and infinite names…. In that way, he/she is said to be formless.
Who can restrict the infinite to one name and one word and one book. Every so called idol represents an idea expressed in stone mud wood whatsoever which gains meaning only in the mind of the worshipper.
A word like Allah is an idea encased in sound meant for the ear. An idol of Ganesha aka the elephant God embodies the power of go to make the impossible possible. The elephant head signifies wisdom. This God is said to ride a mouse, which signifies that the impossible is made possible. All this interpretation is in the mind of the worshipper. Which idiot says that stone is being worshipped?
In a higher vision, why is not stone, being an expression of the infinite universe , worthy of being worshipped as the creator is seen in it?
As long as there is the dichotomy of the worshipper/ worshipped, and thus the concept of an external divinity, it does not matter if I worship an idea encased in a word like Allah or an idea encased in stone like Ganesha. But the latter has some good points – worshipping God in many forms opens the mind to acceptance and respect for another persons method of worship.
Slay the idolaters wherever you find them? The history of India shows the ruthless application of this hateful ideology. Dont pat yourself on the back on the idea that God is only one and is ‘formless’ – God is one is known to all Hindus from the Vedic ages.. Formless by itself is a meaningless negation…. I prefer infinite forms.
bernie says
It is a misunderstanding on the part of many Muslims, as well as many Christians and Jews, that most Hindus are “polytheists.” Actually, most Hindus are monotheistic; they worship the one God whom they call “Brahman,” who has hundreds of avatars, each of which represents an aspect of the one God. Islam itself speaks of “the 99 names of God”, while most Christians believe in a Triune God.
IndianTiger says
Oh, how I would love to practice my kung fu on this moron mullah and I promise that only one strike will send him to his promised 72 whores in hell. muslims have nothing to give humanity except mayhem and violence. They have never done anything constructive. Destruction is the only thing they know, and that is what they will get (their own destruction).
sheik yer mami says
He also said Pakistan was established for no other purpose than to wage jihad against India and to bring it into the fold of Islam.
I remember that just a few years ago we had some Muslim posters here on JW who vehemently denied that.
a true indian says
Violence as a way of achieving racial justice is both impractical and immoral. I am not unmindful of the fact that violence often brings about momentary results. Nations have frequently won their independence in battle. But in spite of temporary victories, violence never brings permanent peace
Atheist kafur says
I really didn’t like his incitement to violence as a God given right of all Pakistanis. In some distorted sense God placed India and its people just for you to enjoy to kill. This is freedom of speech and I personally prefer that these imams express their distasteful opinions in public rather than keeping them hidden. One has to know what the enemy is thinking.
What i find is that the pot of Islamic crazies is getting bigger and not smaller. Iran and Saudia Arabia are now showing their true colours. It must become kristal clear to everyone that everything that occurs in Muslim countries has a religious component.
I would even say that the religious component takes priority.
Political leaders must be educated on the mind set of muslims. Its a bit like what mr. Spenser says. Please open your Koran to page ….. I also believe that when mr. Trump says there is a lot of hate out there these are not off the cuff remarks. This article is just one example.
13pr108 says
The Dharmic nations of Earth need to unite and present the Dharmic world-view to all Earthlings. When it comes to what is good and true and beautiful, our Dharmic philosophy is simply non-pareil, matchless.
Eliminate lust, anger, greed, ego and attachment. Truth/truthfulness/honesty, meditation upon the Supreme Entity (i.e. God)compassion, chastity, forgiveness, courage, prudence, and all the other virtues must be cultivated by every creature everywhere. Have faith, do not ever give up. Good always triumphs over evil. Suffering is always temporary.
Zero tolerance for slavery! Yes to eternal bliss! Good thoughts, good words, good deeds – thoughts arise from feelings so we must not hurt anyone’s feelings. It is possible to defeat the forces of evil through shakti alone without ever hurting anyone. Through logic we will defeat evil. We must be united.
Angemon says
Wage war? Yes. Die in combat? Definitely. If India and Pakistan come to fully-fledged war, my money’s on India.