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Pakistan: Bill banning child marriage fails after it’s deemed un-Islamic

Jan 16, 2016 12:00 pm By Robert Spencer

Islamic apologists in the West argue furiously that child marriage has nothing to do with Islam, and that the idea that Muhammad married a child is the invention of greasy Islamophobes. In reality, few things are more abundantly attested in Islamic law than the permissibility of child marriage. Islamic tradition records that Muhammad’s favorite wife, Aisha, was six when Muhammad wedded her and nine when he consummated the marriage:

“The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death)” (Bukhari 7.62.88).

Another tradition has Aisha herself recount the scene:

The Prophet engaged me when I was a girl of six (years). We went to Medina and stayed at the home of Bani-al-Harith bin Khazraj. Then I got ill and my hair fell down. Later on my hair grew (again) and my mother, Um Ruman, came to me while I was playing in a swing with some of my girl friends. She called me, and I went to her, not knowing what she wanted to do to me. She caught me by the hand and made me stand at the door of the house. I was breathless then, and when my breathing became Allright, she took some water and rubbed my face and head with it. Then she took me into the house. There in the house I saw some Ansari women who said, “Best wishes and Allah’s Blessing and a good luck.” Then she entrusted me to them and they prepared me (for the marriage). Unexpectedly Allah”s Apostle came to me in the forenoon and my mother handed me over to him, and at that time I was a girl of nine years of age. (Bukhari 5.58.234).

Muhammad was at this time fifty-four years old.

Marrying young girls was not all that unusual for its time, but because in Islam Muhammad is the supreme example of conduct (cf. Qur’an 33:21), he is considered exemplary in this unto today. And so in April 2011, the Bangladesh Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini declared that those trying to pass a law banning child marriage in that country were putting Muhammad in a bad light: “Banning child marriage will cause challenging the marriage of the holy prophet of Islam, [putting] the moral character of the prophet into controversy and challenge.” He added a threat: “Islam permits child marriage and it will not be tolerated if any ruler will ever try to touch this issue in the name of giving more rights to women.” The Mufti said that 200,000 jihadists were ready to sacrifice their lives for any law restricting child marriage.

Likewise the influential website Islamonline.com in December 2010 justified child marriage by invoking not only Muhammad’s example, but the Qur’an as well:

The Noble Qur’an has also mentioned the waiting period [i.e. for a divorced wife to remarry] for the wife who has not yet menstruated, saying: “And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women, if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated” [Qur’an 65:4]. Since this is not negated later, we can take from this verse that it is permissible to have sexual intercourse with a prepubescent girl. The Qur’an is not like the books of jurisprudence which mention what the implications of things are, even if they are prohibited. It is true that the prophet entered into a marriage contract with A’isha when she was six years old, however he did not have sex with her until she was nine years old, according to al-Bukhari.

Other countries make Muhammad’s example the basis of their laws regarding the legal marriageable age for girls. Article 1041 of the Civil Code of the Islamic Republic of Iran states that girls can be engaged before the age of nine, and married at nine: “Marriage before puberty (nine full lunar years for girls) is prohibited. Marriage contracted before reaching puberty with the permission of the guardian is valid provided that the interests of the ward are duly observed.”

According to Amir Taheri in The Spirit of Allah: Khomeini and the Islamic Revolution (pp. 90-91), Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini himself married a ten-year-old girl when he was twenty-eight. Khomeini called marriage to a prepubescent girl “a divine blessing,” and advised the faithful to give their own daughters away accordingly: “Do your best to ensure that your daughters do not see their first blood in your house.” When he took power in Iran, he lowered the legal marriageable age of girls to nine, in accord with Muhammad’s example.

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“Bill banning child marriage fails in Pakistan after it’s deemed ‘un-Islamic,’” by Ishaan Tharoor, Washington Post, January 15, 2016:

Pakistani lawmakers had to withdraw a bill aimed at curbing the practice of child marriage after a prominent religious body declared the legislation un-Islamic.

The bill, which proposed raising the marriage age for females from 16 to 18, also called for harsher penalties for those who would arrange marriages involving children. Despite the laws in place, child marriages, particularly involving young female brides, are common in parts of the country. It’s estimated that some 20 percent of girls in the country are married before they turn 18.

But the Council of Islamic Ideology, a constitutional body which gives advice to parliament on the compatibility of laws with Sharia, appeared to slap down the legislation after deeming it “un-Islamic” and “blasphemous,” according to Agence France Presse….

In 2013, reports AFP, “it suggested making DNA inadmissible evidence in rape cases, instead calling for the revival of an Islamic law that makes it mandatory for a survivor to provide four witnesses to back their claims.”…

That’s not just an “Islamic law” that some want to “revive”; that’s a Qur’anic directive (24:4, 24:13).

Clerics on the council object to minimum age requirements, arguing instead that an individual can marry once reaching puberty, which can be as early as the age of 9.

Nine, eh? Why did they decide on age nine?

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Comments

  1. 13pr108 says

    Jan 16, 2016 at 12:12 pm

    Not totally sure but Islam is some sort of weird Shiva cult. Cpt. Vadakayil claims Quoran Sharif was edited in Kerala – all sorts of ties between Arabia and Kerala. Early marriage keeps population going up,up, up. Nightmare for Earth. We need to settle new Earths, yet religion will probably still follow in space.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 16, 2016 at 4:38 pm

      Islam has nothing to do with “Shiva”–pious Muslims hate and regularly murder Hindus.

      I know you regularly proselytize Sikhism here, and that’s fine–but no point in gratuitously bashing Hindus. Notice that is isn’t Hindus demanding the allowance of child rape, but just pious Muslims.

    • Hindu American says

      Jan 16, 2016 at 6:52 pm

      Hmmm…”weird Shiva cult”. I think I know where 13pr108 is going with this. In one fell swoop, he has equated “Shiva” (one of the three fountainheads of the Hindu faith and culture) with islam, and also called our faith “weird” and “a cult”. Nice going 13pr108. I wonder what you think about Buddhism.

    • Nimrod says

      Jan 16, 2016 at 8:48 pm

      Sex with pre-pubescent girls would hardly help increase the population. If anything it would decrease it since it’s likely to cause reproductive system damage rendering the girl sterile.

      Most sane societies would have figured this out even 3000 years ago and developed a prohibition on such a thing as it is bad for group/species survival. Everyone might not know the real reason why such a thing was prohibited (there would be some story about a god or gods, etc, prohibiting it) but the real reason the prohibition would have emerged is the negative impact on survival.

      Marriage at or shortly after puberty can probably be explained by the fact that in primitive societies a girl is likely to get pregnant somehow, voluntary or otherwise, soon after it becomes biologically possible and there is a social desire to assign a responsible party for taking care of the child. In other words, the assumption is she WILL soon get pregnant somehow anyway so make sure there is a husband.

      It can also be explained by harsh survival conditions where many people, even women, are likely to die by age 20 and it becomes more critical for women to have a child ASAP.

      Once these conditions are no longer so bad and survival has more to do with being educated and waiting until a biologically safer age to get pregnant (like 20-25), adolescent marriage starts to become more of a problem than a response to harsh conditions.

      But we all know that Islam is determined to follow a survival strategy in which survival conditions are not improved and survival is promoted only by breeding in large numbers regardless of the effect it has on quality of life. Islam attempts to eternally lock Muslims into the same state as 7th century desert Arab nomads.

  2. mortimer says

    Jan 16, 2016 at 12:51 pm

    Every Muslim man or woman wearing Islamic attire is a believer in child marriage. They are believers in a BARBARIC PRACTICE that should be completely ended.

    This is normative Islam, rather than an aberration of Islam. Islam is irreconcilable with civilization and modernity.

    • dlbrand says

      Jan 17, 2016 at 3:05 am

      Amen, moretimer.

  3. Thomas Jackson says

    Jan 16, 2016 at 1:40 pm

    What is scary, from a modern western point of view, is that the Washington Post article does not use the word Muhammad, and it’s French link, does not include the word either.

    Why is it un-Islamic?

    Why do the ‘Council of Islamic Ideology’ hold such a view?

    I guess it’s up to the reader to look into this.

    The Washington Post, apparently, is ambivalent about using the word ‘Muhammad’.

    The Koran and Islam should be described as ‘The Life and Times of an Arab Warlord… who liked little girls’…

  4. Westman says

    Jan 16, 2016 at 2:34 pm

    Where is Reza Aslan when he’s needed to clarify why caravan robbing(today it’s state welfare) and child brides should still exist and if they are still Islamic? Perhaps he could drag himself away from college coeds, who think he really has a Doctorate in religious studies and looks like a GQ cover model dreamboat, to explain why his brothers in Islam still want 9 year olds? Allah is wise, merciful, and just to the 9 year old bride?

    The quality, integrity, and nobility of a society can be determined by observing how it regards its most vulnerable members. Islam flunks.

  5. berserker says

    Jan 16, 2016 at 2:57 pm

    – Of course, Pakistan does not practice CAIR-certified True Islam.
    – I would like apologists for Islam to tell me one Muslim-majority country where true Islam is practiced.

    • georgia says

      Jan 17, 2016 at 3:08 pm

      Saudi arabia

    • Angemon says

      Jan 17, 2016 at 5:07 pm

      berserker posted:

      “– I would like apologists for Islam to tell me one Muslim-majority country where true Islam is practiced.”

      Islamic apologism usually goes like this:

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 17, 2016 at 8:44 pm

        Grimly hilarious video, Angemon. Thanks for posting!

        The part at the very end is the best. Brilliant!

  6. Oliver says

    Jan 16, 2016 at 3:01 pm

    I agree with all of the quotes. There was a weird site that I once saw- where someoen said that the ONLY two advvantages to pre-puberty girls was, no periods ( hey, same is true of women past menopause0 and that their vaginas are tight. Possibly a Muslim site, or a pedophile site. (Aren’t the two, along with bestality, almsot synonamous?)

    Weirdos.

    • Nimrod says

      Jan 16, 2016 at 8:53 pm

      Sounds like these are not people concerned with species survival. No doubt that they also think that reproductive system damage leading to sterility is also an “advantage”.

  7. Dave J says

    Jan 16, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    Islam is perfect for and is the favorite “religion” of – perverts and bullies. It allows the molestation of “dancing boys”, marriage to children, easy annulments, the enslavement of women and execution of critics. It was designed to cater to all the most base male fantasies, but with a facade of religious devotion.

    It is the worst fascist ideology in the world and is seeking our submission to it.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 16, 2016 at 4:41 pm

      Spot on, Dave–Islam *sacralizes* bullying.

      • Nimrod says

        Jan 16, 2016 at 8:58 pm

        Worse, it sacralizes slavery of most of humanity and abuse of those slaves. Any Muslims with any sort of moral compass have realized that Islam can only have come from Shaytan and they’ve renounced Islam, if only privately.

        Let the great apostasy begin and the 200,000 jihadis be sent directly to hell where they belong.

        • Oliver says

          Jan 19, 2016 at 5:43 pm

          Nimrod, which 200,000?

          Probably more like 20 million, or more.

          I saw that there were 200,000 in Bangladesh to fight for child marriage. (Was it this post? do not recall); then there is ISIS, Al Queida, Hamas, Hezbollah, etc. The number of terrorist organizations is beyond my memory to recall them all. (However, i do wish that all would fight each other, and kill each other–both in the ME, Pakistan, Bangladesh and even those in civilized countries- but just kill each other.

          I know, not PC

  8. Oliver says

    Jan 16, 2016 at 3:05 pm

    Back to Pakistan– wkith all of their rhetoric about stamping out terrorism, they (I would venture the ” terrorists”, and supported by the government, directly or indirectly) murder HEALTH AID WORKERS, who are TRYING TO HELP THEM.

    PAKISTAN, i HAVE READ, HAS THE HIGHEST (IN ACTUAL NUMBRERS AND PER 100,000) OF POLIO in the world. Aid workers with the vaccine were killed. (The rest, I guess, got smart and stayed away). Perhaps the entire population can get a communciable disease ( besides islam and stupidity) and they could all die. (But within their borders; not infcting humans elsewhere). My UN PC thpught

  9. Rocky Lore says

    Jan 16, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    CAIR approves of this

  10. Infidel from Down Under says

    Jan 16, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    In Sydney it estimated there could up to 150 -200 girls living in underage arranged marriages while an unknown number as young as 10 or 11 are shipped overseas to be married sometimes even sold

    But rarely is anyone charged. All just another part of the muslim protection racket with governments and law enforcement agencies looking the way

    • Oliver says

      Jan 19, 2016 at 5:46 pm

      Who would be doing the arranging? the shipping to other countries?

      The parents?

      If so, shouldn’t the schools notify the authorities- the children are missing, or something?

      Or, is the brainwashing (perhaps the PC leaders are only in need of a light rinse, rather then a thorough brainwashing- as they have little in the way of brains) so complete that this is ignored?

  11. gravenimage says

    Jan 16, 2016 at 4:33 pm

    Pakistan: Bill banning child marriage fails after it’s deemed un-Islamic
    …………………………….

    Except possibly for murdering unbelievers, what could *possibly* be more Islamic than raping children?

    God, I hate Islam.

    • Rezali Mehil says

      Jan 17, 2016 at 4:23 am

      Salaam Graven,

      You know that the union of Muhammad SAW and Aiesha was a holy union ordained by Allah SWT…
      you have categorically agree to this …the proof is in *your* drawn pictures on the Internet depicting their *private* time of conjugating …and now you want to show sleight of hand …you ungracious childless little git.

      More Later …

      Rezali

      • Angemon says

        Jan 17, 2016 at 9:48 am

        No, rezali, it was a misunderstanding. Allah told muhammad to get into Aisha’s clothes, not into her panties:

        http://bewley.virtualave.net/bukhari20.html#gifts

        2442. It is related from ‘A’isha that the wives of the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, fell into two parties. One party contained ‘A’isha, Hafsa, Safiyya and Sawda, and the other party contained Umm Salama and the rest of the wives of the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace. The Muslims knew of the love of the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, for ‘A’isha, so when any of them had a gift which he wanted to give to the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, he would delay it until the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, was in ‘A’isha’s house. Then the person with the gift would send it to the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, while he was in ‘A’isha’s house. The party of Umm Salama spoke about it and said to her, “Tell the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, to speak to the people and say, ‘Whoever wants to give a gift to the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, should give it to him in the house of whichever wife he is.'” Umm Salama spoke to him about what they had said, but he did not say anything. They asked her and she said, “He did not say anything to me.” They said to her, “Speak to him.” She said, “She spoke to him when he went around to her as well, but he did not say anything to her. They asked her and she said, ‘He did not say anything to me.’ They said to her, ‘Speak to him until he speaks to you.’ He went around to her and she spoke to him. He said to her, ‘Do not injure me regarding ‘A’isha. The revelation does not come to me when I am in the garment of any woman except ‘A’isha.'” She said, “She said, ‘I repent to Allah from injuring you, Messenger of Allah.’ Then they called Fatima, the daughter of the Messenger of Allah, and sent her to the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, to say, ‘Your wives ask you by Allah for fairness regarding the daughter of Abu Bakr.” She spoke to him and he said, ‘O my daughter, do you not love what I love?’ She said, ‘Yes indeed.’ She returned to them and informed them. They said, ‘Go back to him,’ but she refused to go back. They sent Zaynab bint Jahsh and she went to him and spoke harshly, saying. ‘Your wives ask you by Allah for fairness regarding the daughter of Ibn Abi Quhafa.’ She raised her voice until she turned to ‘A’isha, who was sitting down, and abused her until the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, looked at ‘A’isha to see if she would speak. ‘A’isha spoke to answer back Zaynab until she had silenced her.” She said, “The Prophet, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, looked at ‘A’isha and said, ‘She is indeed the daughter of Abu Bakr.'”

      • Champ says

        Jan 17, 2016 at 5:35 pm

        “Really Mean” wrote:

        You know that the union of Muhammad SAW and Aiesha was a holy union ordained by Allah SWT…
        you have categorically agree to this …the proof is in *your* drawn pictures on the Internet depicting their *private* time of conjugating …and now you want to show sleight of hand …you ungracious childless little git.

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        The revolting and mean ‘rezali mehil’ has demonstrated, once again, just how *evil* and *backwards* the mohmmedan mindset truly is — where pedophilia is A-OK, but being childless is somehow worthy of condemnation? Wow this is so screwed-up and beyond backwards.

        • gravenimage says

          Jan 17, 2016 at 8:55 pm

          Thank you, Champ.

        • Rezali Mehil says

          Jan 18, 2016 at 9:58 am

          Women who cannot bear children …what use are they to society?

          And …Champ …don’t pretend to be upset …I know you would dump your hubby faster than Graven can finish off her Jaffa orange juice carton.

          More Later …

        • Angemon says

          Jan 18, 2016 at 10:14 am

          Rezali Mehil posted:

          “Women who cannot bear children …what use are they to society?”

          Spoken like a true communist misogynist.

          If only you put 1/10th of the energy you use to obsess over and try to insult Champ and GI to actually try to give a cogent, rational, fact-base response to what they say… well, you’d accomplish nothing, of course, since you’re trying to defend the indefensible, but at least you could say you tried.

      • gravenimage says

        Jan 17, 2016 at 8:54 pm

        The vile Rezali Mehil wrote:

        Salaam Graven,

        You know that the union of Muhammad SAW and Aiesha was a holy union ordained by Allah SWT…
        you have categorically agree to this …the proof is in *your* drawn pictures on the Internet depicting their *private* time of conjugating …
        ……………………………..

        If the perverse Rezali Mehil has convinced herself that my rendering of the 54-year-old pedophile Muhammed’s terrible rape of little 9-year-old Aisha depicts a “holy union” then she is more delusional than I had thought.

        Here’s my drawing (Warning! Disturbing image):

        http://s478.photobucket.com/user/gravenimageartist/media/AishasWedding-1.jpg.html?sort=3&o=0

        More:

        If and now you want to show sleight of hand …you ungracious childless little git.
        ……………………………..

        Of course, though known as the “Mother of Believers”, Aisha *herself* was childless her entire life–likely because the poor girl had been repeatedly raped as a pre-pubescent child by the monstrous “Prophet”.

        And note: Rezali Mehil considers opposing child rape to be “ungracious”–but flogging this savage perversion *is not*. *Ugh*.

  12. Angemon says

    Jan 16, 2016 at 4:47 pm

    Pakistani lawmakers had to withdraw a bill aimed at curbing the practice of child marriage after a prominent religious body declared the legislation un-Islamic.

    Well, it *is* the Islamic Republic of Pakistan…

    • sidney penny says

      Jan 16, 2016 at 8:43 pm

      Well, it *is* the Islamic Republic of Pakistan…

      Well it was not meant to be but became.

  13. billybob says

    Jan 16, 2016 at 5:08 pm

    “Mufti Fazlul Haque Amini declared that those trying to pass a law banning child marriage in that country were putting Muhammad in a bad light: “Banning child marriage will cause challenging the marriage of the holy prophet of Islam, [putting] the moral character of the prophet into controversy and challenge.””

    Well, he does have a point there. The marriage of the holy prophet of Islam to a child does put the moral character of the prophet into controversy and challenge.

    What an idiot. He defeats himself with his own argument.

    • sidney penny says

      Jan 16, 2016 at 8:47 pm

      Logic,rational arguments or debates.is not part of Islam.

      As for debates ask why no one want to debate with Robert Spencer

      • Angemon says

        Jan 17, 2016 at 9:34 am

        sidney penny posted:

        “As for debates ask why no one want to debate with Robert Spencer”

        I think the official excuse is that they don’t want to give hatemongers a platform to monger their hatred from. The real reason is that they know he’s as knowledgeable of islam as them, if not more – they know they can’t out-debate him so they won’t even try.

        You know, I always found the “we don’t want to give hatemongers a platform” excuse to be lacking. The alleged hatemongers are not going to be alone on the stage with a megaphone and a mind-washing machine, they’re going to be with someone else with opposing views that should be able to disprove their “hatred”. All those petrodollars and that’s the best excuse they can come up with? Good grief!

        • billybob says

          Jan 17, 2016 at 10:44 am

          Not “giving hatemongers a platform” is just an excuse. They can argue the fine points of Islamic jurisprudence and subtleties of translating from Arabic and look like they are winning the argument, until it gets down to simple, fundamental basic facts: Muhammad was a pedophile, a murderer, a misogynist, a slave driver, a liar, an adulterer, in short – scum of the earth. There is no way to defend such a person. Beyond that, there are the exigencies of the Quran, kill the Jew, kill the kafir, kill, kill, kill… Then there is the inequality of sexes, inequality of people, How can anyone defend such a religion?

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 17, 2016 at 9:24 pm

      True–it is not that banning Islamic savagery calls Muhammed’s character into question–it is that he engaged in such barbarism in the first place.

      There is no reason in Islam.

  14. Descendantofacrusader says

    Jan 16, 2016 at 8:16 pm

    For anyone seeking to understand the innate perversion the Islamic mind, may I suggest “The Little Green Book” a collection of immoral fatwas by the father of the modern Islamic nation of Iran:

    http://www.prophetofdoom.net/The_Little_Green_Book.Islam

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 16, 2016 at 8:36 pm

      One of the ‘pearls of wisdom’ in this book is that no Muslim should “allow his daughter to see menstruation in his house”–in other words, that he should sell his child off to some pedophile before she has even reached puberty.

      Have I mentioned how much I hate Islam?

  15. sidney penny says

    Jan 16, 2016 at 9:02 pm

    Welcome to a NEW Pakistan 2016. Amercia,s greatest ally and super friend and aid recipient

    Pakistan: Bill banning child marriage fails after it’s deemed un-Islamic
    ……………………………………………………….

    What else is un-Islamic in Pakistan?

    Anti-polio campaign is deemed un-Islamic

    http://www.rediff.com/news/report/pak-cleric-warns-jihad-against-polio-vaccination-teams/20120613.htm

    A Pakistani Muslim cleric declared the anti-polio campaign as “un-Islamic”

    Maulvi Ibrahim Chisti ,a Pakistani Muslim cleric of Muzaffargarh district declared the anti-polio campaign as “un-Islamic” and announced at the local mosque that jihad (holy war) should be carried out against the polio vaccination team. He made the remarks after finding out that a vaccination team had entered Khan Pur Bagga Sher area of Muzaffargarh and asked families to cooperate with the campaign.

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/01/pakistan-muslims-murder-15-with-jihad-attack-at-polio-vaccination-center

    “A Pakistani Muslim cleric has said that polio vaccinations are un-Islamic. And such “extremist” clerics are not just in Pakistan: in Nigeria, a Muslim cleric was arrested for playing a role in sparking the murders of polio workers.”

    Hindus and Christians are also un-Islamic in Pakistan.Read the school text books in Pakistan and you will know why.

    Why are Infidels telling Muslims when they can or cannot marry.Why are infidels telling Muslims when and how Muslims can commit violence on women and girls.Why are infidels telling Muslims what universal human rights are and how Muslims should treat women and girls. Like a lot of issues relating to Islam it is for Muslims to resolve even if it is difficult as this post shows.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 17, 2016 at 9:25 pm

      Of course–trying to protect children from disease and abuse is always un-Islamic.

    • Oliver says

      Jan 19, 2016 at 5:57 pm

      I read that Pakistan holds the world distinction for: MOST CASES PER 100,000 (OF POPULATION) OF POLIO

      AND MOST CASES, REGARDLESS OF POPULATION, OF POLIO.

      I guess that this is for 3 reasons.

      Dr. Salk OBM was Jewish.
      Dr. Sabin (unsure if alive or has passed away) is or was Jewish
      Aid workers were not Muslims, and giving injections (Salk vaccine) to Muslims, of both sexes. (or, the Sabin vaccine, which is orally given).

  16. Xero_G says

    Jan 16, 2016 at 9:32 pm

    Muhammad never used an iPhone, the internet, or even electricity. He never flew on planes, wore suicide vests, or built bombs. Why do Muslims base their conduct on “What would Muhammad do?” when it involves rape, apostasy, homosexuals, child brides, discrimination against women and non-believers, etc, but they ignore Muhammad’s example in most everything else Muslims do in the modern world?

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 16, 2016 at 10:23 pm

      Important point, Xero G.

      Of course there is lots of inconsistency–what else would one expect from irrational Mohammedans?–but the rule of thumb seems to be that if such Bi’da–“innovation”–can be used as a weapon or otherwise can spread the foul creed of Islam, that it is allowed.

      If it something that is neutral or–Allah forbid!–that makes people happier or healthier or lends itself to equality and decency, then it is virulently denounced as Haram.

  17. Dan Jones says

    Jan 16, 2016 at 10:56 pm

    As a victim of abuse, this is totally sick and despicable…

    More End Time News At:
    http://www.shininginthedark.com/?page_id=4526

  18. Jay Boo says

    Jan 16, 2016 at 10:59 pm

    MO did it.
    MO’s personal revelation HO, Allah approved it.

  19. dlbrand says

    Jan 17, 2016 at 3:08 am

    “Nine, eh? Why did they decide on age nine?”

    As I know you know, Robert: for the same reason all other laws and traditions are in Islam: example of the “prophet.”

  20. BC says

    Jan 17, 2016 at 4:18 am

    You are factually incorrect RS. Marriage below 16 (female) and 18 male is already illegal in Pakistan. The defeated Bill was to make harsher penalties for those who break the law, which is frequent and to raise
    the age for females to 18 years.
    What is outrageous is that the religious body CII said that it was contrary to the teachings of the Quran, flouting in fact civil law.
    In other words they believe that because Moh. had a child bride all Muslim men must be allowed the same. So this supports the idea that Quran law must always trump civil law, especially when it affects the rights of females.
    It also shows that extremism is in the Quran and everything that jihadis do is supported by Quranic interpretation. That terrorism is nothing to do with Islam is nonsense

    • Robi says

      Jan 17, 2016 at 11:36 am

      Your observation that “Quaran(ic) law must always trump civil law” is exactly why followers of Islam are neither compatible with or integratable into Western concepts of democracy and equality..

      • sidney penny says

        Jan 17, 2016 at 6:43 pm

        That is why India finds it so difficult to have a common civil code to apply to all

        https://www.quora.com/Why-doesnt-India-have-a-uniform-civil-code

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_civil_code_of_India

        so forger about Western concepts of democracy and equality.Muslims do not prefer any concept of democracy and equality.and why would they want to be equal to infidels?(kafirs)

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 17, 2016 at 9:30 pm

      There is no real enforcement of civil law in Pakistan–it only exists on paper.

      A very conservative estimate is that one in three marriages there violate the law against child marriage.

  21. Michael says

    Jan 17, 2016 at 6:00 am

    Sharia (Islamic) Law at work ….. disgusting !!!

  22. Mark says

    Jan 17, 2016 at 7:57 am

    Please view share and give a thumbs up to the following documentary, https://youtu.be/t_Qpy0mXg8Y. It reveals how treacherous Islam is.
    If western governments collapse, the only people with any hope of a comfortable retirement are the ones with enough children to take care of them. Children use to contribute to the family income. Now they are an expensive time consuming hobby and are getting replaced with gadgets and toys.

  23. vcragain says

    Jan 17, 2016 at 8:00 am

    This ‘religion’ is a sickness – we all know why they love the idea of marrying little girls of nine years old – it is male sexual fantasy – the idea of a tiny, helpless girl with an untouched, very small target for their BIG MANLY ‘weapon’ they love so much – all so sick it makes me puke. This is the vilest form of ‘manliness’ that it appears has taken over the whole Middle East – they have so many restrictions within their religion they are all crazed sex-maniacs dreaming of the 72 virgins – this is what the whole attraction of this religion appears to be – and the wonder of it to me is WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE WOMEN – can’t you see what your men ARE ? Do you really think your role in this world is to support this stuff ? wouldn’t you rather have males around you that actually respect you as a human being ? Don’t you fear for your daughters ? How can you put up with and assist in this crap ? I believe the whole thing is a thinly disguised sexual-perversion scheme ! I HATE Islam and all it stands for !

    • Robi says

      Jan 17, 2016 at 12:11 pm

      The Islamic scholars in Cairo have clarified the reward given to females in Paradise: females are to be rewarded with one man (since, of course, a constant reward of female virgins would indicate a homosexual relationship rendering the female entrant ineligible for Paradise).

      This solution presents a problem in itself. If male Muslims in Paradise are rewarded with an endless supply of virgins, then a female Muslim in Paradise could, at best, be rewarded with sex only once with a Muslim male (since, obviously, she would no longer be a virgin). It would appear that the man awarded to the Muslim woman in Paradise must be a kafir !! But wait…that presents another problem….

      Islam’s whole sexual obsession is ridiculous and is most reflective of the mindset of a teen-aged boy or a mentally unstable man..

      • robert says

        Jan 17, 2016 at 3:35 pm

        i would agree that most of the muslim men are mentally unstable due to being interbred over the centuries.

    • gravenimage says

      Jan 17, 2016 at 9:34 pm

      *All* forms of Islamic “manliness” are vile–pedophilia, raping women and prepubescent boys, using sex slaves, kidnapping and robbing unbelievers, brutally enforcing savage unjust laws, humiliating and murdering Infidels–*all* of it is vile beyond words.

    • Oliver says

      Jan 19, 2016 at 6:07 pm

      VCR–what I find not understandable–NOT how women born into Muslim families and cultures continue to accept this. That, to me, is understandable.

      What is not, HOW CAN A WESTERN EDUCATED FEMALE, from say 8 or 9 or so AND UP fall for their crap and (when in high school-recall the Catholic born girl in Colorado who tried to get to Syria, and her family called the FBI-was a JW post some months or so ago) or college (remember the woman who picketed Pres. G. W. Bush’s ranch (I think her name was Crawford, not sure)-her 17 year old son was killed in Iraq. Left unsaid: she gave the child up when he was 7-for some dude with (I guess) a large tongue or schlong; then had another boy- gave him up when he was 6 or 7; and was living with a Hamas person in Cal., and claiming (as I recall-could be wrong here)- that she was a Muslims, as was her lover (of the moment).

      And other college educated and even those who didn’t go to get indoctrinated, but ( should have been) old enough to see Islam for what it is. In the US, (once great) Britain; etc.

      That is what I cannot see

  24. Beth Kaplan says

    Jan 20, 2016 at 9:45 am

    The women are “this way” because they’ve been brainwashed over the centuries that they’re nothing,
    that they’re garbage, trash, that they don’t deserve to *exist*. It takes a really strong, prideful girl to
    overcome all that raw male hatred and contempt, and it takes a really unusual father to allow his
    daughter to be educated to university level.

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