Edward Archer said he shot Philadelphia Police Officer Jesse Hartnett because “police bend laws that are contrary to the teachings of the Quran.” But Philadelphia Mayor Jim Kenney wants you to know that the shooting had “nothing to do with being a Muslim or following the Islamic faith.” I called this earlier today, writing here at Jihad Watch: “Not to worry. Obama and the Mayor of Philadelphia will find some way to explain that this has nothing to do with Islam.” And here we are.
Kenney’s predecessor was named Nutter. And there is still a Nutter in the Philadelphia mayor’s office. He should be calling for an inquiry into where Archer learned about Islam, where he went to mosque, and what in Islam gave him this idea. Instead, the utterly predictable denial.
“Mayor Kenney On Officer Shooting: ‘It Has Nothing To Do With Being Muslim,’” CBS, January 8, 2016:
PHILADELPHIA (CBS) — During a police press conference Friday afternoon, Mayor Jim Kenney stated that he believes the shooting of a Philadelphia police officer has “nothing to do with being a Muslim,” despite the suspect claiming he did it in the name of Islam.
Mayor Kenney said, “In no way shape or form does anyone in this room believe that Islam or the teaching of Islam has anything to do with what you’ve seen on the screen.”
Philadelphia Police Officer Jesse Hartnett was shot several times late Thursday.
Authorities say the suspect gave a full confession to the shooting.
Commissioner Richard Ross said, “According to him, police bend laws that are contrary to the teachings of the Quran.”
Mayor Kenney said of the shooting, “It is abhorrent. It is terrible and it does not represent the religion or any of its teachings.”
He continued, “This is a criminal with a stolen gun who tried to kill one of our officers. It has nothing to do with being a Muslim or following the Islamic faith.”
Police sources say the suspect is 30-year-old Edward Archer, of Yeadon.
John C. Barile says
This truly begs the question, doesn’t it?
Stan Key says
This gleefully begs the answer, No, it does not.
wayne a. says
Stan Key,A typical mentally challenged libutard response.Ridiculous,ISIS are Muslims and the shooter said it was in the name of Islam,so how in the hell does it not have anything to do with Islam!!! “Mayor Kenney said of the shooting, “It is abhorrent. It is terrible and it does not represent the religion or any of its teachings.” BS,this is straight out of the so called Muslim “Bible”
Quran: {The infidels are your sworn enemies Sura 4:101}
Quran {Prophet, make war on the infidels Sura 66: 9}
Quran {Never be a helper to the disbelievers Sura 28:86}
Wayne T. says
You are absolutely 200% correct.
This Mayor Kenny has taken political correctness to the extreme far left, just like President Obama; or maybe he is nothing more than an ignoramus, or, maybe both!
down under says
Instead of having mental heals cheques for gun owners, I would recommend them for democratic government officials,
they are more dangerous than natters with guns!
Scott M says
Yes, it certainly does beg the question, Stan – how many incidents like this – occurring on a DAILY basis around the world – will it take for some people to accept that there IS a problem with muslims and islam.
Stan Key says
That gleefully brings the answer: No, it does not.
Hank Linden says
This gleefully brings the answer: Get off drugs and stop causing no win to you debate.
Gordon Gecko says
actually the flip side is awareness or direct knowledge of Islam has soared over the past 6 months. So the mayor’s comments actually anger people and promote more awareness. No average middle Americans can be seen quoting the Koran gleefully.
Recently I was talking to a high level investment banker friend and he raised the topic of Islam by saying ‘what do ‘they’ want [by their actions].’ Now he would have only had exposure to rich gulf Arab bankers and network engineers. So it was significant he grouped Muslims all together and saw it as a total movement acting in unison. He would have previously considered such thought heresy.
Both Muslims and non-believers target the middle/moderate part of the kaffir population, as do the political/media elite. Both the Philly and Cologne mayors’ shrill, desperate propaganda shows they are losing significant ground
mortimer says
The Questions:
1) “Why does Islam have nothing to do with Islam?”
2) “Since when does Islam have nothing to do with Islam?”
ECAW says
The religion that has nothing to do with itself.
Peggy says
Even Islam doesn’t want to be associated with Islam.
Good one.
Arnold says
As much as the cross or the rhetoric of the KKK has nothing to do with Christianity.
One demented individual committed a crime based on his interpretation of the religion.
Peggy says
One?
John Ceglarski says
If you were sickened by the gutless liberal democrat dhimmi mayor who just couldn’t wait to say “It had nothing to do with islam” then here is the contact info. Mayor Jim Kenney
Philadelphia, PA
Phone:
215-686-2181
Mayor’s E-Mail Address:
jim.kenney@phila.gov
City’s Web Site:
http://www.phila.gov
jihad3tracker says
Hello John — Thank you for that contact information. Late last night I did a web search on the mayor, and found that he just took office recently, is a Dem — of course — and most importantly: HE SIGNED A PLEDGE ABOUT THE USUAL MUSLIM VICTIMHOOD BIAS BULLCRAP AT A MOSQUE IN JULY OF LAST YEAR.
Thus, heavily into keeping up the taqiyya lies which he spouted in that press conference. You can find the info by Googling his name and “mosque”, pledge, other relevant words. Let’s all take 10 minutes to tell him by email that we are aware of his Islam-empathetic sedition, and will hold HILLARY CLINTON RESPONSIBLE ALONG WITH HIM — by supporting a Republican.
By the way, if you watch his facial expression in some of the news vids, BEFORE HE WAS AT THE MIC — when the police chief was speaking — the mayor looks like he is going to vomit.
John C. Barile says
His family confirm that Archer is “a devout Muslim.”
Stan Key says
Extremists are always devout in their extremism, not of the loosley-based faith.
mgoldberg says
27,500 jihadist attacks just since 9/11 by hmmmmm….. what religion is that again??!?
That the connection between devout in Islam, and jihad attacks against …. all others,
would indicate that there most certainly is a connection. Especially since it’s gone on for 1400 yrs, wherever Islam goes.
Xxxxx says
Christianity is just as bad
Westman says
Really many-x? Just when did you see a Christian committing mahem while shouting Jesus ackbar? You obviously know little about Islam ideology and likely, little about Christianity, or you would never make such an uniformed claim.
I’m Agnostic and even I see the violence inherent in Islam that is not mirrored in Christianity.
Christianblood says
Westman
Xxxxx agenda is not about murderous islamic jihad but expressing his hatred for Christianity. People like him (radical atheistic secularists) who are running the Western world today and who worship money and sex are even more dangerous than their murderous islamic jihadists allies.
Western Canadian says
Xxxxx, you forgot the sarc off, or you are an idiot.
WCM says
To Western Canadian:
He’s an idiot who listens to MSNBC. If he can read English, he’s been reading too many (one is too many) proglodyte publications.
Peggy says
Xxxxx says
January 8, 2016 at 7:05 pm
Christianity is just as bad
============================
How many terrorist attacks from Christians so far?
Rocco Lore says
CAIR and BLM will defend the shooter.
John C. Barile says
I don’t think you mean “Bureau of Land Management.”
All Muslim Lives Matter. Qur’an 5:32-33.
Cliffhild says
But that means, obviously, that no other lives matter. Thanks for the information — I think we know that already.
Donna says
But, Mr, Barilee, according to Islam, ONLY Muslim lives matter. And according to Christian belief ALL LIVES matter, period. Jehovah wishes NONE should perish but ALL come to eternal life…WHOSOEVER believes on Jesus should have eternal life, not whoever dies killing someone who doesn’t believe will be guaranteed eternal life. Islam’s god, says you must prove your love for him by dying for him. Jehovah says He proves His love by dying for us. God bless
John C. Barile says
God bless you, too.
wtd says
Jim Kenney:
Last night’s shooting had nothing to do with any faith. It was a violent assault by a criminal. I urge all Philadelphians to stand together.
*****
July 17, 2015 On Muslim holiday, Kenney signs ‘Pledge to Combat Bigotry’ at Germantown Ave. mosque hat tip Breitbart via Weasel Zippers
****
Stephen Coughlin Moment: The “Countering Violent Extremism” Deception
The CVE, “Counter Violent Extremism”, was set up at the DHS with the assistance of the Muslim Brotherhood. Where we have the DHS, FBI or State Dept. engaged with the Muslim Brotherhood in CVE initiatives, these initiatives are
*NOT AMERICAN,
*DON’T COME FROM THE UNITED STATES
*HAVE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD FOOTPRINTS ALL OVER IT
“True Speak” by Jim Guirard advocates the language we are supposed to use, as when discussing Islam, which can be anything except when it has anything to do with Islam – as requested by this administration. Stephen Coughlin suggests Jim Guirard did not understand the language he was hired to promote. In January 2008 Secretary Chertoff , head of the DHS – “(pdf) TERMINOLOGY TO DEFINE THE TERRORISTS: RECOMMENDATIONS FROM AMERICAN MUSLIMS included the requirement to begin sanitizing the language which describes al Qaeda or the Muslim Brotherhood or the Zarqawi network which is today, ISIS…no longer use words like “jihad”, “caliphate”, “umma”…the very language used by the enemy…to satisfy related groups like CAIR, ISNA, MPAC, muslim brotherhood front groups. It’s the elimination of the actual threat vocabulary. If we cannot use accurate terminology, we cannot develop effective means to address the threat.
Going back further, in 2004, the 9/11 Commission, called for by Congress under Article 1, clearly depicted 9/11 involved jihad, Islamic terrorism, etc. MPAC was permitted to testify, challenged the terminology and had it purged.
The official lexicon of the FBI was void of any language of the enemy. More importantly, the definition of violent extremism was a definition which so precisely collapsed into incoherence it was not randomly possible to have it that precisely incoherent.
In 2009, the DIA [Defense Intelligence Agency] came out with it’s unclassified intelligence review NEVER mentioned anything with the language of Islam – except at one point they said alQaeda, with an asterisk identifying alQaeda as an example of violent extremist organization. The enemy plans to defeat opposition in the “information battle space” (propaganda/subversion) by controlling the language and definition of terrorism.
In 2010, the official report on Fort Hood from the DoD – Protecting the Force, the original source of the term “workplace violence” [Page 4 or 7 of 26] Recommendation 2.6 a,b : Update Policies to Address Workplace Violence . This is the first example of government officials overwrite the facts on the ground with the “workplace violence” narrative to deny/conceal actual facts….right down to the point where the Fort Hood report never even mention Major Hasan.
In 2011, the CIA was told to stand down on some terrorism training, instead giving it to DHS in November 2011, CVE Training Guide for Best Practices which determined alQaeda as our biggest threat but no allowance made to discuss the doctrine of alQaeda, tying hands from fighting them.
2012 brings us to Benghazi. The reporting at the time made it clear that alQaeda attacked. No question about it. those same documents reveal the State Dept. spent the entire next day (9/12/12) coordinating with the Muslim Brotherhood of America (ISNA) and the OIC on the YouTube/Violent Extremism narrative and that’s how they were going to move forward- knowing that this was disinformation from the very beginning.
In 2013 and 2014, West Point’s Counter Terrorism Center came out with “Challenges on the Sideline – Understanding America’s Far Right Wing” turning support for the Constitution into potential ‘far right wing’ terrorism as equal to terrorism committed by alQaeda.
This summer Coughlin was in Vienna Austria at the Organization for SEcurity and Cooperation in Europe and we were told at this official function that they think that calling Islamic State “The Islamic State” should constitute a hate crime. About a month later, Jeh Johnson, head of DHS said he would no longer refer to ISIS as “ISIS” or “Islamic State”. Then we heard McCall, the Republican chairman of homeland security committee say the same thing.
The origins of the CVE do not come from American law. We know it comes from abroad. We know it is actual hostile because if you are doing CVE, you are NOT doing counter-terrorism.
As we witness Republicans institutionalize the CVE entity, we need to take the time to learn what it is, understand it AND TO OPPOSE IT!
gravenimage says
They’ve already started, Rocco:
Jacob Bender, executive director of the Philadelphia chapter of the Council on American Islamic Relations, said more investigation is needed.
“We need more information,” Bender said. “Was he in contact with any bona fide terrorist or anything like that? We don’t know.”
He said Archer’s name was not immediately familiar to some of the imams with whom he spoke Friday morning.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/01/philly-cop-shooter-i-follow-allah-i-pledge-my-allegiance-to-the-islamic-state-that-is-why-i-did-what-i-did
Western Canadian says
And as we all know and have pointed out, muslims never lie. sarc off.
Maryann Peterson says
This country had been led by some very corrupt politicians for a very long time. They must be so confident and/or desperate that they are doing openly what so many before them did in secret. Lots of foreign money has been funneled to corrupt politicians in the USA. The constitution and the bill of right must be followed to avoid more degradation. Without our constitutional rights being afforded us we are heading for civil war and then the Military who has been asked if they will kill American citizens I suppose will be replaced with UN and foreign troops. God help us. I am a patriot and a honest American who worked in DC for 12 years. The DC crowd is seriously corrupt and only out for themselves. The few that are decent are over taken by the corruption and are probably threatened( most likely indirectly. Please pray with me for the hearts of men and women in DC for their hearts to be turned away from evil and towards the good. We are way too deep into evil for man to do this for our nation.
Mathew Solo says
Today…few people are connecting the dots between turning away from God and the declining influence and growing troubles of our modern America.
History also records that America was founded on biblical principles and Christian beliefs and moral values…In this Land…We were allowed to have so much of everything.
However…in the last 50 years…these biblical values have come under persistent attack in our increasingly progressive culture…Today…progressive thinking is thought of as fact…the Bible has been expelled from all thinking…while progressive teachers and liberal theologians promote their thinking…as reality.
God will not be mocked…most do not realize he does correct those whom He loves and very powerfully…individually and Nationally…and at the time it will get our attention.
What would it take to finally get us to admit We can not continue our collective dismissal of Gods Absolute Authority…It will cost us so much more than most would be able to believe…but believe it or not it is Going to take place.
Of course if We would stop all our wrong behavior based on what God says is Wrong and start the right Behavior based on what God says is Right…God might relent…but of course We will not do either.
Abraham Lincoln was tested during the Civil War…He put our National Arrogance in plain words:
“And, insomuch as we know that by His Divine Law nations, like individuals, are subjected to punishments and chastisements in this world, may we not justly fear that the awful calamity of civil war which now desolates the land may be but a punishment inflicted upon us for our presumptuous sins, to the needful end of our national reformation as a whole people?
We have been the recipients of the choicest bounties of Heaven; we have been preserved these many years in peace and prosperity. We have grown in numbers, wealth and power, as no other nation has ever grown. But we have forgotten GOD.
We have forgotten the gracious hand which preserved us in peace, and multiplied and enriched and strengthened us; and we have vainly imagined, in the deceitfulness of our hearts, that all these blessings were produced by some superior wisdom and virtue of our own. Intoxicated with unbroken success, we have become too self-sufficient to feel the necessity of redeeming and preserving grace, too proud to pray to the GOD that made us!”
gerard says
Wiser leaders of the past have called for days of prayer and repentence. There are clear instances of things being turned through prayer and repentence both in the Bible and more modern times. eg Nineveh was spared.
Phil says
Wow, what a load of bull. The reason behind people dumping this “god”” delusion in the last 50 years is because all of the evidence from science to strongly suggest that there is no god of islam or christian. It`s just laughable nonsense to think a god created humans and the planets…childish nonsense. It`s just the sort of explanation you would expect from ignorant peasants all those years ago. The faster we can lose this god delusion, the better we will be…especially islam…what a barbaric cult.
Western Canadian says
“Phil says
January 9, 2016 at 4:19 am
Wow, what a load of bull. The reason behind people dumping this “god”” delusion in the last 50 years is because all of the evidence from science to strongly suggest that there is no god of islam or christian. It`s just laughable nonsense to think a god created humans and the planets…childish nonsense. It`s just the sort of explanation you would expect from ignorant peasants all those years ago. The faster we can lose this god delusion, the better we will be…especially islam…what a barbaric cult.”
Dear ignorant mouth breather!! you are very welcome to come and post your pathetic drivel, for the same reason that muslims are free to do so. By allowing you to demonstrate your ignorance and incredible bigotry and hatred, you expose yourself for what you are. And boy, are you good at it!!!
Science has nothing to do with proving or disproving the existence of a creator, that you suggest that it does, merely demonstrates you have NO background in science. And your sickening name calling demonstrates you have no argument, and only names to call. You are NOT well educated, or frankly even of low average intelligence, but feel free to come by anytime you need to express your hatred for those who do not worship as you worship.
John Ceglarski says
That is a fact and even though many prophesies are being fulfilled before our very eyes and the fact that our planet is a statistical impossibility, you are still going to find many ignorant people like Phil who ignore the facts and it is that blasphemy against Christ for which he is coming back as a conqueror to punish the world. On the off chance that Phil and other ignorant atheists might actually gain some understanding I am posting the article below on why his view of “No God” is impossible. http://creationevolutiondesign.blogspot.com/2008/10/re-fred-hoyle-about-747-tornado-and.html
VRWC member77 says
Phil, Western Canadian is correct. Proud shouts of atheism are not going to mitigate the destructive effects, mush less defeat, Islam. Calling everyone and anyone stupid for having beliefs that are not provable by the perspective of you or anyone else is not helpful.
There is no moral equivalence between Islam and ANY other religious or agnostic belief. The Christians who have been slaughtered, the ones who for whatever circumstance were put to death by savage islamic barbarians for maintaining their Christian beliefs, displayed courage that should humble everyone of us who understand the islamic threat.
It took many years for me to understand this but I now believe religion actually does serve a useful purpose for the human condition. It’s ironic that it took the threat of Islam for me to come to that conclusion. I’m not saying you should agree. I just think in these present times people should give a bit more thought as to why someone invests time in spiritual belief, whatever that belief may be.
John C. Barile says
Never mind the suspect’s exotic apparel; he also pledged allegiance to the Islamic State–you know, the one that has nothing to do with Islam.
Mark Swan says
HEY PHIL
Quoting a dumb Zoologist saying “god delusion” does set you apart from the crowd…How big er old boy are ya…try that mouth of yorn around them eegnurnt Pasents you hold in such contempt and let us know how that works out for you.
Dawkins is a tri-sexual and so is your mama.
Politicallyincorrectistruth says
Thats a lowlife childish personal attack on this guy and his mother. Did he attack you personally?
tpalya says
Mayor is either a retard or a coward!
cs says
Look at the expression on the face of the miserable mother Fxxker?
It says it all.
Mathew Solo says
Yep
Maddog says
Both?
tom says
No, this is in line with the White House line of nonsense. He is just courting President Obama and the Democratic touchy-feely everyone gets a trophy.
Hope says
Oh, darn. Another case of workplace violence! When will it ever end?
Dean (@TheDudeInSF) says
Never Blame God!
gravenimage says
“Allah” is not God.
Wellington says
Damn right, gravenimage. Allah is not God or, in the alternative, if Allah is God then this is a very creepy universe and God’s a jerk and man must not submit but rather emulate Prometheus, as I have indicated before. Better to go down into the pit and be no more than be a slave of Allah.
I am not content, as I know you and others here at JW are not also (e.g., Champ), just to criticize Islam in general, the Islamic texts and its warped founder. Allah must also specifically be mocked and dismissed, helping to prove all the more that Islam gets virtually nothing right, even what would constitute a Higher Power or Supreme Being.
BTW, I don’t believe I have wished you a Happy New Year so I will do so now. May 2016 prove to be a year in which more and more people come to fully grasp just how iniquitous Islam is, though I don’t hold out much hope for the present mayor of Philadelphia, the city where America was founded and where I was born. Take care, my friend, and I will say again how much I value your comments here at JW.
Champ ✞ says
I am not content, as I know you and others here at JW are not also (e.g., Champ), just to criticize Islam in general, the Islamic texts and its warped founder. Allah must also specifically be mocked and dismissed, helping to prove all the more that Islam gets virtually nothing right, even what would constitute a Higher Power or Supreme Being.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Indeed, Wellington …
No way is that demonic entity *allah* the one true God!
“Allah is not the God of the Bible”
http://kingmessiahproject.com/is_allah_not_God.html
Excerpt:
Muslims believe that there is no other God besides Allah and that he is the God of the universe. They claim that not only is he their God, but that he is the God of the Jews, the Christians and everyone else. When examining the profile of the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and comparing it with Allah’s profile, there are a number of distinct differences between them that can only result in one conclusion: These profiles simply do not match! Allah is NOT the God of the Bible!
The Islamic faith, through the teachings of Muhammad, asserts that Allah is God and attempt to place him within the confines of the Holy Scriptures. When the Bible contradicts their teachings, they allege that it is flawed, has been tampered with, and has many errors. They further claim that the Koran, through the teachings of their prophet Muhammad, corrects them. However, it has already been established that Muhammad was both a false prophet and teacher. Therefore, Islam’s allegations are unsupported, baseless and without merit.
There are a number of major differences between the God of the Bible and Allah. This chapter will focus upon five reasons why they are not the same. According to the Holy Scriptures, the God of the Bible is the one true God while Allah is a false god.
Rezali Mehil says
Salaam Graven, Wellington, Champ…Dean
Wellington, some days ago I wished Graven happy new year too…but she did not wish the same back …no doubt she was somewhat distracted as you peoples are these days..
I see your Phillie mayor has disassociated this crime from Islam…. the admin really wants to piss the sunni off…(sunni keep saying they are devout …but the admin keeps on refusing to do so).
My own view is that this is abhorrent behaviour but Jerry/Joe/Tommy has little choice but to try to defuse the anger out of the situation.
Change is hard for all …the 1st 30 sec of a cold shower is the hardest …then you start to adjust … and that is what Germany will have to do …they after all invited them in… stick to the policy of free movement …and so it has come to pass…..they saw what the arab nations did..but did not follow suit
All of Europe will have to change and this is hard…I understand and accept that …I really put the blame on Jan Sobieski……had it not been for him this change would have occurred in your great great grandfather’s time …not yours…so spit on them too..leaving you with such hard times to face.
As to whether never to blame God… I agree with this ..you cannot blame Allah SWT for this …for he is a strong god.
I don’t know if Graven is religious…but with Champ…why everyday she would have had that burqa on faster than Graven could drink a glass of Jaffa orange Juice.. ..no silly theology discussions about whether Allah SWT is the God of the bible or not …there would be one God…Allah SWT period!!!
The bible would have been part of the forgotten history…Champ would be praying 5 times a day …and getting her spaced out adopted niece/nephew to follow suit (no pun intended).
Change happens…lets all make it painless and smooth…
More Later …
Rezali
Hugh says
Allah is Satan.
Jason says
I agree with that.
Champ ✞ says
Exactly, Graven!
Phil says
Allah is not satan because both are just delusions. No matter how much you believe there is a god, it does not make it true. There is no god because there is zero evidence for a god. I suggest you look up the word evidence because you people with this “god delusion”, are also delusional as to what it means.
Gabriel says
That’s correct. The Supreme Court of Malaysia has already settled this issue, which is why no English translation of Koran can have the word God.
Steve says
Allah is Satan … the moslem’s god
jihad3tracker says
Lying, desperately hoping and praying to avoid phony “press conferences” by CAIR and professional race-baiters in Black Lives Matter. Plus the regulars who fly in to exploit situations — Al Sharpton first among them, and trying to avoid retributory violence by Muslims in Philadelphia.
BTW, it is very likely that such municipal offices and law enforcement have public email addresses mandated by statute. This weekend, if such cowardice pisses you off, create a brand new “disposable” email address on Gmail.
Then send the mayor, city council and police chief a few reliable sources of truth about TROP — the religion of peace. My faves are www [dot] citizenwarrior [dot] com / www [dot] inquiryintoislam [dot] com / www [dot] barenakedislam [dot] com, and of course THIS BLOG.
FOR JIHADWATCH, YOU COULD EVEN POINT OUT HOW ROBERT PREDICTED EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED AT THAT PRESS CONFERENCE. By the way, make the subject lines of your emails deceptively neutral, not containing “Islam” or “Muslim” — so they do not get deleted before being read.
aerg ertre says
BTW, Moron for a day, gmail is not a “disposable” email, it remains as record for 18 months minimum, even when you delete the account (CALEA)
Myxlplik says
aerg,
Why are you so angry, can’t correct someone without having resorting to insults?
Do you take issue with the gist of the post, which is to educate people about Islam?
Myxlplik says
*without resorting to insults* …. you get the gist though ;).
Wellington says
Jihad3tracker is no moron, aerg. Far from it. Many know this at JW. You don’t.
Mark Swan says
No one took a poop and left anyone in charge…this sight must be open to every
different opinion…not some place to chat among the chosen few…rubbing some
on the head…while grabbing the throats of others…and on everyone’s time…
Touting Free Speech for yourself…but not others…you’re missing the point of this sight…
Oh no…now I’m saying what can’t be said…curse ye tongue…hold still darn ye…down darn it…down.
Goat Pimp says
““Not to worry. Obama and the Mayor of Philadelphia will find some way to explain that this has nothing to do with Islam.” And here we are.”
The amazing thing is that they just use bald assertion.
“In no way shape or form does anyone in this room believe that Islam or the teaching of Islam has anything to do with what you’ve seen on the screen.”
They never provide any evidence WHY “it has nothing to do with Islam”, they just assert that it doesn’t. It is extremely insulting to our intelligence to just spoon feed us some BS and expect us to swallow it unquestioningly. Who the hell do they think we are, idiots?
The more they deny any connection to Islam, the more they inflame the populace and the more likely future attacks won’t be foiled because the message is that it is not OK to turn in suspicious Muslim behavior. On the plus side, I think this helps the republicans because people are fed up with the liberals protecting and promoting Islam.
“It has nothing to do with Islam” is a blatant promotion of Islam as a peaceful religion. Since when are our government officials supposed to be promoting a religion while on the job? It is crazy.
Richard O'Mara says
This idiot Mayor should be recalled and have his head examined, where are we getting these leaders from?
Jayke says
He is a democrap. Need I say more?
Ron Current says
Is this guy on the right side of things or is he a wussy???
JAS says
This mealy-mouthed politician should be run out of office and tarred and feathered. Muslims ARE the enemy of civilization, there is NO doubt of that! Mr mayor was more scared of offending islam than he is of his citizens. What he said about islam is NOT to blame is a shameless lie! Of course islam should be blamed, the attacker has already admitted that so Mr mayor looks like a damned fool for blathering on protecting islam and muslims! Anyone who voted for this doofus should be ashamed.
Ray Peyronel says
They are assuming, rightly, the American public can’t differentiate an Islamic Terrorist and a Muslim. So instead of trying to explain the nuanced difference they, our government, would rather dumb it down and call it anything else but what it is. I would guess most Americans can barely name 5 previous presidents let alone be interested enough in reading the Koran and trying to understand why this attack we are under is so important to our survival.
PRCS says
Not only is his assertion factually bankrupt, he is stating/assuming that everyone in that room agrees with him.
As I’m sure he’s not a Muslim, I wonder if he gets his info from the Catholic church?
Jaladhi says
I am convinced all our authorities are deliberately lying – or dumb as a drift wood or they consider all of us dumb?? Take your pick!
John C. Barile says
They consider us to be at least as dense as they are.
Jaladhi says
A question for the the Mayor: who is Muslim and knows Islam more – he or the shooter?? Case closed!!
PRCS says
During her program, Gretchen Carlson–even after listening to and talking about the mayors bogus assertions about Islam–stated that the perp (despite what he had himself said) stated that he had declared his allegiance not to the Islamic State and to Islam but to the “ISIS” and “radical” Islam nonsense the uninformed parrot.
Apparently the clue stick missed her head.
Louis says
I would say that neither the major or the shooter know anything about Islam. 95% of muslims are ignorant of what is actually in the Koran. It is the ‘hate speech’ imams who are inciting muslims to kill the infidels.
gravenimage says
Louis wrote:
I would say that neither the major or the shooter know anything about Islam. 95% of muslims are ignorant of what is actually in the Koran.
………………………..
Louis, this devout Jihadist knew enough about Islam to wage violent Jihad and murder Infidels in its name. The idea that he is ignorant about Islam, I’m afraid, makes no sense.
Ciudadano says
Why do politicians come out to defend islam every time muslims attack? are they experts in islam? It seems like western politicians are in the islam PR staff. This is becoming really annoying to hear this bullshit from politicians every single time. Aren’t politicians supposed to behave in a secular way? Let the muslims explian themselves.
Mathew Solo says
This Cosmopolitan Society a…Secular Humanism…Progressive Pabulum… Pumping Out deceit…It is slap in the face to the freedom loving people.
Our Nation Began…by People Who Just Wanted To Be People…They came from Countries where State Religion for the most part drove them from all they had ever known to exist…they start a bold proposition…a government which would be answerable to its governed…Wow…Would It Work…Was It Worth It…Could It Survive.
A Horrifying Civil War Cost more than ½ million lives of these people…It Tested This Governments Will to Survive Big Time…It Survived…These People Still Exist…Its Government Still Must Answer To The Governed.
We helped the Entire Earth Survive two world wars…We Did Our Part To Help them end them…even though We Did Not Start Either War…We Gave Till It Hurt Many Times throughout History…and if most do not remember it…or for that matter care…that Is Part of Who We Are.
We did not Solve all the world’s problems…But Certainly Did Not Cause all of them…for the most part we had a benign effect on our planet…though We Certainly had Potential to stand it on it’s ear…we just didn’t.
Now there are Bullies…Coming at us from seemingly out of thin air…if we do not reign in Islam and Totalitarian Progressive Pushiness…They might get their way…though I hardly think they can imagine What That Would Mean to try to Rule These People Who Just Want To Be People.
Xero_G says
The shooter confesses that his reason for shooting was because “the police enforce laws contrary to the Koran”.
Following the Philadelphia mayor’s logic, the KORAN must have NOTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM.
Bezelel says
“He continued, “This is a criminal with a stolen gun who tried to kill one of our officers. It has nothing to do with being a Muslim or following the Islamic faith.”
People will vote for anyone. Important side note, I heard on Rush L. that the gun was stolen from the Police Department.
gravenimage says
Yes–the gun was stolen during a burglary of an officer’s home.
Bezelel says
That does mean that hussein obola can’t claim it was taken from one of us civilians that don’t have enough sense to own a gun and should be disarmed while he floods the country with feral savages.
Atheist7 says
There are two very important questions that we need to ask Mayor Jim Kenney of Philadelphia:
1. Where did you learn about the nature of Islam?
2. Why do you think that an attack by an Islamic Extremist had noting to do with Islam.
Kenney is infected with some very bad misconceptions. It would be good to know the source of the infection.
tim says
The source is liberlism….a known mental disorder
Mathew Solo says
Good One Tim
Islofob IS-1 says
He is versed in the progressive mindset.
Politicallyincorrectistruth says
He`s infected with fear..fear of more violence if he say`s it was islamic murder.
Muhammad Bear says
This looks like an obvious case of workplace violence.
The Mayor is correct.
The Bull says
Thank God for Donald Trump
SG says
THIS NEW ‘PC’ SOCIETY IS LITERALLY GOING TO KILL US
Myxlplik says
In case there are any Muslims out there reading this, I think after your Jihad spree it would be important to cite Islamic references backing up your assertion that you act in the name of Islam. Liberals don’t believe that you are capable of your own reasoning, and will always cite some reason other than what you say, so you have to be more clear.
Georg says
Forgive my immaturity and boorishness, but…
LOL!!
pdxnag says
Such lies can perhaps only be explained by making sure you never ever – never ever – leave a public statement opposing Islam that could be used in a court of law to support a lawsuit for millions upon millions of dollars in favor of a “moderate” Muslim.
So the immediate enemy is any laws on the books that allow the practitioners of the violent “religion/sedition” called Islam to bring lawsuits or that allow Islam-based organization to be recognized as lawful.
Marian Jesse says
We don’t need the Mayor’s explanation! The perp was absolutely clear. He shot the policeman because he loves and respects Islam…and that’s what Islam dictates.
David McClellan says
Well then, we could claim that the Crusaders weren’t Christians and (discounting the fact that they were in response to Muslim aggression) that what they did had nothing to do with their religion.
berserker says
Perhaps CAIR can supply all our politicians with T-shirts that say “Nothing to do Islam” so that they will not have to open their mouths. Simply wear the T-shirt to the press conference after every attack by a member of the religion of peace.
B. Gillespie says
About as bright as NYC mayor.
Stan Key says
The quote shown is erroneous and unattributed to this Mayor. If you are going to quote, quote accurately.
Robert Spencer says
Uh, read the article. The quote from the Mayor is right in there.
Champ says
Sigh …
And then we have the “Stan Key” types whom only make matters worse — good grief!
Champ says
Philadelphia Mayor: Shooting of cop in name of Islam had “nothing to do with being a Muslim or following the Islamic faith”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
How many times have we heard *this* nonsense? Repeating a lie doesn’t make it true!
Vae Victis says
Too early to assume that it has anything to do with Islam. Need to explore other possibilities.
After all if a snake bit you in the arse, wouldn’t you first get yourself checked for malaria in case it was just a mosquito. – dumm-kopf.
(apology – just joking)
Politicallyincorrectistruth says
Exactly…just like…i believe in god, i believe in god, i beli
Lisa says
Maybe this was stupid to do – I called from my home number… But I called the Mayor’s Office and spoke to a woman who has the job of taking messages and passing them on – and I asked why the Mayor thinks it is okay claim that this has nothing to do with Islam when the shooter claims it does. The Mayor is not an adherent of Islam, he probably does not attend mosque with the shooter so where does he get the idea that he knows better than the shooter what this is about? If someone claims they kill on behalf of Allah or because it is their Islamic duty I think after awhile it behooves us to believe them.
Anyone else wanting to make the call here you go:
Office of the Mayor
City Hall, Office 215
Philadelphia, 19107, PA
Phone: (215) 686-2181
Email: James.Kenney@phila.gov
gravenimage says
Thanks, Lisa.
Steve says
Great work !!
eduardo odraude says
Calling is a thousand times more effective than email.
Singh the SIkh says
You can say ‘nothing to do with Islam’ till you go hoarse and the cows come but it won’t change thing. The Koran is immutable. Deniability and delusionality won’t stop the murders. Ostrich syndrome may be comforting but reality has a way of catching up.
William H says
How do people like this even get out of their house in the morning? I swear, they are nothing but a bunch of glue eating idiots.
Steeven Bosarge says
Denial of the truth does not make it the truth. God has said that in the last days he is going to confuse those without faith. I’ve had a very difficult time trying to rationalize exactly why a lot of people seem to have absolutely no sense of logic and comprehension of facts and truth. This is the only true answer, they are bound by God himself, to not be able to discern nor comprehend what is actually taking place. It is in their nature to deny and not be able to register, in their faculties a reality of the state of affairs. God Bless, take care and keep focused!
David Jory says
Physicists have recently discovered the shortest possible unit of time.Previously it was the time between a traffic light turning green in New York and the honk on the horn from the car behind you.
Now it is the time between a crime inspired by Islam and when a politician/government worker declares that it is nothing to do with Islam.
DRHazard says
The absolute proof that a crime was NOT motivated by Islam includes 3 things:
1. The suspect is a Muslim
2. The suspect has demonstrated his devotion to Islam
3. The suspect openly proclaims that his motive was based on Islamic teachings
Other things like pledging allegiance to ISIS also confirm that the suspects motive had no origins with Islam.
It is important for public officials to keep on clearing up the matter since ordinary citizens may come to the wrong conclusion and develop a misunderstanding of Islam.
gravenimage says
Philadelphia Mayor: Shooting of cop in name of Islam had “nothing to do with being a Muslim or following the Islamic faith”
……………………………
And yet Edward Archer–I wonder what his Muslim name is?–openly said: “I follow Allah. I pledge my allegiance to the Islamic State. That is why I did what I did.”
But none of this will stop the dhimmi denial.
Sam says
I don’t know this insanity about “Islam has nothing to do with Islam” business will come to an end before we infidels are exterminated by Islam thanks to these idiot enablers of this cult of “peace”. We can not say enough is enough to Islam for some f******* strange reason even if they shout Allahu Akbar and murder infidels daily. This is like a science fiction movie where zombies are all over and they are protected by this strange shield where even if you look at them you are killed or marginalized but they can cut your throat freely at a random place with impunity. But it is real.
guide inside says
Its EXACTLY like the walking dead. They are dead in their spirit, dead in their eyes, want to disembowel everyone and eat their flesh. The fix? A very sturdy kukri or parang right between their dead eyes.
billybob says
This “Islam has nothing to do with Islam” business will come to an end eventually, because these politicians who spout this nonsense are losing credibility fast. Just follow all these comments on the internet – on YouTube postings, Washington Post articles – in every forum including here. People are wising up fast, and these politicians are only breeding cynicism and giving opening to people like Trump and other right wing politicians all across Europe. Eventually these PC politicos will get the message from their own campaign directors, that this “Islam has nothing to do with Islam” business just won’t fly any more.
Muhammed assad says
That same mayor signed a bill declaring Philadelphia a “sanctuary city” his first day in office January first. That bill and his ignorance of Mohammedans, the Surah, Koran, Hadith, Sharia etc. will get many Americans killed.
don vito says
You bring up a valid point about getting many Americans killed. These dhimmicrat kufr leftist had already decided that a good part of the American population should be done away with, as well as replaced. Willfully wanting Americans to die, but who should replace the present population? As we Americans voluntarily off ourselves the political elites calculate, who would come here and off Americans who won’t go voluntarily. Just how would the nation continue to accept kufr assassinations? By saying that those who assassinate have nothing to do with the ideology that promotes kufr assassinations. Alright don, stop it! You keep this up you won’t be able to pass the background check for that nice AR 15.
Xero_G says
A basic question that is never asked at press conferences when the link between Islam and violence is denied:
“When violence against non-Muslims is clearly detailed in hundreds of instances in Islamic scripture – and was the fundamental tactic used by Muhammad to spread Islam – and Muhammad’s example is universally believed by Muslims to be the perfect code of conduct to emulate – what facts have you uncovered that contradict Islamic scripture and 1400 years of empirical evidence?
Mo says
The usual.
And not much will happen to him, since he 1) shot a cop (and we know that police are now counted as the criminals in this morally bankrupt nation, 2) he’s a Muslim, and 3) he’s black.
Dude says
Old but gold, the great Pat Condell
Steve says
This filthy Religion of Peace needs to be outlawed as it was written by a murderous paedophile
Thomas says
It appears as if the mayor is living on Pluto or some other place in deep space!
The shooter says the police do not comply with Sharia and this is why the shooter shot the police officer.
Thankfully, the police are not yet enforcing all aspects of Sharia law.
Since the police officer is not Sharia compliant, the shooter says that under Islam he should shoot the police officer.
Why has this extremis liberal mayor intentionally disrespected the shooter’s sincere religious beliefs?
It seems as if the Mayor does not believe in USA’s constitutionally protection of freedom of religion. The shooter should be free to interpret his own religion!
Today, the mayor has shown contempt for the shooter’s sincerely held religious believes.
The mayor has failed today’s diversity test.
Di says
Sack Mayor Kenney.
Gary says
Edward Archer, told detectives: “I follow Allah” What more does the Mayor of Philly need? What, is allah the Baptist God. The Hindu Faith? Or the Mormon belief system?
The West will protect their politically correct mandate to no end.
gary fouse says
As a retired DEA agent, I wonder: What’s the point of trying to obtain a full and truthful confession if you won’t believe it?
Bezelel says
gary fouse, would it be more profitable to waterboard the perp or the mayor? The shooter is already telling the truth but you could analyze his commitment, While the mayor may actually believe his own B.S., he may reconsider his stance after the first round, then repeat the process to see if he will renege.Having a politician on the board would be very interesting.
Anthony says
@Gary, you nail it ! If the somebody has to interpret what other people say like this mayor, then what’s the point of the confession, and next question will be why we should believe the mayor, is he a shrink who can read mind ??? If he is, then why can we ask the next shrink we can find ? and believe him ??? We have to believe what people say on their action and hold it to be objectively true, otherwise we will have no ground to stand on, when you move from objective morality to subjective morality, we will have chaos
davious says
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a public official defend a cop shooter, under any circumstances. WTF is going on????
Disgusted Retired LEO says
We are in a sign of the times of cowards running our Country, afraid to offend anyone with what they say. POTUS has moved our Country 10 steps back from being a strong and powerful nation, we are looked down upon by other world leaders as weak and despicable. We are in dire straights and need a powerful leader to take the helm and run this ship head on into those who are trying to destroy us. Out with the weak and clueless and in with the strong, bold and mighty. Those who take pride in what our Country has to offer. God Help the USA!!!!!!
Vae victis says
They still cannot see the elephant in the room. All possibilities must be discounted before considering the obvious. ISLAM!!!!!
Wellington says
Consider for the moment what the new mayor of Philadelphia really knows about Islam. I’m not sure doing so is more risible than chilling or the other way around.
JawsV says
James.Kenney@phila.gov
Peter says
It is quite obvious that Mayor Kenney is also a criminal, like the shooter. He is a liar and a scoundrel. He should be removed for dereliction of duty.
Angemon says
Well, if grand-mufti Abdullah il Kenney, with a lifetime devoted to studying islamic texts, teachings and traditions, says so, who are we to disagree?
nacazo says
grand mufti abdullah il kenney…..BWahahahahahah
Disgusted Retired LEO says
If Obama had a son, sniff sniff tears tears he would have done the same thing because of his beliefs and teachings of the false god holla snack bar… We are doomed as a nation unless we get a grip on these radical animals and stop them now!!!!!!!! Prayers for a speedy recovery to this Officer and his family, God Bless the USA and save us from the traitors who aim to destroy our beautiful Country.
TJFreedomjihad says
The mayor is clearly psychiatrically disturbed, needs psychiatric treatment, should be immediately “impeached” (aka recalled or resign). He suffers minimum of cognitive dissonance, in extremis. Likely he has other actual psychiatric co-morbidities, that should have barred him from ever holding office, nor a gun!!!! Reality is not in his mind!!!
Miles says
Not just him. Countless liberals and Trump haters also believe that Islam is good and we should let the refugees in and let Muslims in when the check system clearly doesn’t work. The western world is full of morons.
guide inside says
The poor mayor no doubt played on the same team and took the same hits to his pumpkin as the shooter. THATS IT–BAN ALL FOOTBALL IN THE USA!!
Jacky st john says
Speechless..You coward, you traitor, you piece of garbage!~ Step down, you don’t deserve to be mayor of such a great city. shame on you for not defending your officer/people. Disgusting. What would say if they came after your wife or child & said the same words? I am pretty sure you wouldn’t be so kind.. Loser, coward, UGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hope says
Congratulations, Mayor Kenney! You’ve won the Dhimwit of the Month Award.
Xero_G says
The Philly Mayor will likely NOT change his mind about Islam even after all doubt has been eliminated. Even if you cite for him violent Jihad verses (it’s out of context or misinterpreted) Professional panderers and ass-kissers for votes will never speak the truth if it would or could negatively affect their poll numbers.
Vae Victis says
All these public officials seem to be singing from the same prayer book.
Does anyone know if there is a documented procedure on what to say in case of an Islamic incident?
I know there are documented procedures for dealing with bomb hoaxes.
Perhaps it is issued by the UN, all governments seem to paraphrase each other.
The evidence is mounting that Islam is evil. Surely they must run out of excuses sometime.
davious says
I’m really getting tired of this false narrative they try so hard to push on us. Even after Paris when ISIS showed exactly which verses gave them the “right” to commit murder the media said it has nothing to do with Islam. The other day the Huffington Post did a story on Cologne – there was virtually no mention of “refugees”; their story was about “violence against women”.
Anonymous says
>> He should be calling for an inquiry into where Archer learned about Islam, where he went to mosque, and what in Islam gave him this idea.
No, the inquiry should be into why the mayor deflected any consideration of religious motivations and possibly saved the perpetrator from a hate crime charge. The question is, can a lawsuit be brought upon the mayor for this untruthful statement?
Baucent says
The mayor is clearly a theologian, an expert in Islam and Koranic scholar, so his views must carry some weight. Don’t even ask if he has ever read the Koran.
But get some comfort from the knowledge that Obama’s gun control plans would have prevented this shooting….oh you say the gun was stolen?
Matthieu Baudin says
Yes, the slick Obama chooses his moral causes carefully. The nature of Islam (bury my head in the sand); gun control (weep aloud in public).
TJFreedomjihad says
On a larger view, (Dude excellent point with your Condell inclusion-spot on). Around the world particularly in the continent, officials with few exceptions, such as heroic Geert Wilders and many more, who like some, can see reality in front of them, most people and officials tend to be as deer in headlights, utterly transfixed! It is beginning to appear like some strange global conspiracy, that so many are acting so crazy, like zombies as officials, in the face of the oncoming train from the darkness, called the howling wilderness, also in the Bible.
The Cologne police chief who lied about the rapes and who was responsible, to the public has been forced to resign, for not revealing the rapes, in quantities, done by muslims. At least in his case he left quickly. But large amounts of officials especially are denying truths to both constituents and themselves. I can easily see brainwashed evil muslims reacting with evil and unreality, but supposedly sane non-muslim officials? For example of many, so many possible, what is merkel, a communist east german still, crazy, or a muslim, or all? She has no touch with reality, just none. Politically she is toast, long ago, for her traitorous German behavior. Such is so elsewhere, repeated too often!!
Knowledge of the insanity and exceptional violence of the members of this singular worst criminal gang of all history, is all over the world in scholarly books, and the internet, not to mention in front of ones own eyes, and even many places, plain word of mouth. Knowledge of their unforgivable global history, their satanic cult behaviors, of unimaginable acts of worse than crimes, actually, can be learned easily today. These behaviors are what rise to greater evil than the word ‘crime’ can ever describe. This stain on humanity, islam, its behavior is not a secret, anyone has access to its reality of pure crime and deceit.
How is it possible for so many, mostly officials, would be, should be leaders but not actually so, not to mention the dhimmis of the world, how is it possible to not react immensely to this singular massive evil, by absolutely crushing it everywhere, as reality?
I mean, many of our veterans, have become aware of pedi Thursday, bacha bazi, et al., imagine in some, having to shut up, and deal with it. Another source of PTSD, seriously. How could a male do what mohammad did to others, both sexes? From the git go. Did son of sam whisper in his ear, in the caves?
I also mean has no leader the brain power to look up the just the quotes of leaders and notables, on the evil of the criminals of islam, through 1400 years of unimaginable evil gang history? Are all officials of IQ 70? WTF is going on here on earth, with the human race, to borrow a phrase.
You who are idiots, sick blind idiots, like the mayor, cologne police chief, et al, THINK, LEARN HOW TO READ AND RESEARCH FOR YOURSELF!!! AND WHILE YOU ARE AT IT, SEE IF YOU CAN FIGURE HOW TO GROW COJONES, FOR GOOD AND GOD!!!!
eduardo odraude says
Here is an outstanding article on Muslim immigration.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429480/muslim-immigration-sexual-assault-terrorism
eduardo odraude says
Here is a brilliant video by David Wood. “The Islamic Dilemma.”
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/429480/muslim-immigration-sexual-assault-terrorism
eduardo odraude says
SORRY, that was the wrong link.
Here is the right link:
TJFreedomjihad says
Eduardo, interesting piece by David, as usual. Such grand and correct logic would no doubt fly over the heads of most muslims, at light speed of a laser, but surely indicates mo’s cave whisperer had to be son of sam, the devil, thus mo was nutty as a cuckoo’s nest, because he couldn’t quite work out the doctrinal lies to suit perfect logic, albeit grand scale logic. But he surely left a wreck anyway, by deceit, for the world to deal with, and suffer with at the hands of simply not ‘bright lighted’ devils disciples..
At least we have one piece of good news, which is that when they get around to reading the koran, fully, meaning the medina final revisions and 62% abrogation of the earlier meccan sucker’s version (son of sam’s corrections, don’t cha know), in their own language, most loose members usually want no part at any cost, of the gang, which many also recognize the character of being a crime gang, and will risk possible death by murder of themselves, rather than remain global level suckers to a devil.
Glad to have seen that little bit by David. Thanks for including.
SuchindranathAiyerS says
Angela Merkel and the Mayor of Cologne have found a reflection inObama and the Mayor of Philadelphia. When men and women in postions of leadership make such stupid pronouncements that fly in the face of logic, reason and information to hand, and we watch the progressive emasculation of Narendra Modi and Rajnath Singh in India, one begins to believe in the Djinns of Allah that favour the Sunni way: The corollary, naturally, is that Allah is the Devil.
Aron says
MEDIA POLITICO FORMAT OF DENIAL
This world wide Denial of the ever escalating, ubiquitous Islamic Violence is the proof that there is indeed a Problem at hand and the victims ie, the besieged and beleaguered Free Societies do not know how to cope or handle it realistically.
Like individuals who are stressed and feel helpless on face of an overwhelming Problem that they cannot handle or tackle- they slip into Denial evasion of the problem.
Islamic Aggression, Violence and Terrorism Denial are similar in many ways to Alcoholic Denial or Drug Dependence or Child abuse or Battered Wife syndrome etc
They are not sincere like any alcoholic who denies he has some problem with his drinks.
To fix this there is no other way than the Therapists (Islamophoboes) to repeatedly Confront the Victim with the Facts of the Problem.
The Hostility towards the Therapist is anticipated.But the Confrontation with facts must be kept at till either the victim begins to see the facts clearly and that he is indeed in need of help and he would get it and there is Life After Alcohol and without any need for it.
The results are dependent on the Victim’s agreeing to face the facts, take help and acquire the confidence and will for a healthy purposeful Life.
The victim may succeed or succumb into suicide like Angela Merkel’s Germany and Europe.
But the Facts together with Solutions must be placed- to offer victims the hope of successful escape from clutches of the vice.
This is why the more the Problem increases, the Denial and Hostility towards the Therapist (read islamophobes who confront Denial with Facts) is also increasing- as if the Therapist is the only Problem.
TJFreedomjihad says
Nicely described reality, Aron. There is also this, for many cases, I think:
Why People Can’t Face the Truth about Obama
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/12/why_people_cant_face_the_truth_about_obama_.html
By Deborah C. Tyler 10-28-15
With his recent depradative wildings on America, (you know-his pen and phone activities?), preceded by so much else (to the benefit of our enemy) (and against the American people), it is even for many more deniers, becoming clear, that after all, hussein is just a muslim, not just a dim bulb, albeit an evil one, for America, for sure. Fawstin’s little work, becomes more and more into focus, these days, it seems: http://fawstin.blogspot.com/2012/09/the-enemy-president.html
Aron says
I actually wanted a paragraph on Pathological Defense mechanisms- Cognitive Dissonance, Projection being most evident in the case of Islamo-Denialism. Forgot to include. Thanks Deborah for the piece.
citycat says
It makes logical sense when one realizes that true Islam is Islam that is not Islam.
It’s quite simple.
False Islam is Islam that IS Islam.
It’s always variable if need be, and it all depends on the stage of Islam’s evolution in infidel lands.
To put it clearly and simply-
A thing that at first comes from Islam into infidel lands is not Islam, nor from Islam until that thing becomes Islam.
And again, the simplicity of it is that Islam is only in the mind.
Islam in the mind is not Islam until Islam in the mind is safely rooted, and fully manifested with the inspirational fruit of Islam, which fruit being more things that have nothing to do with Islam, just yet, unless or until the infidel manifestation is wholly and forever no more.
Sniper says
I see, I’m so glad the mentally deficient mayor has cleared up this point for me, so now you can be a moslem, and follow islam, and its evil teachings, kill in the name of islam, BUT not be a moslem, or indeed kill in the name of islam. I wonder why it took me so long to understand this simple lesson in logic.
ECAW says
We also need an inquiry into where Kenney learned about Islam.
gerard says
“No one in this room” believes this has anything to do with islam.
How does he know that? He is simply letting it be known that he will not welcome any dissenting voices. That’s tyranny. Disgusting! Another not-very-subtle nail in the coffin of free speech.
mach37 says
Everybody should send the Philly mayor a copy of the Koran with the appropriate verses highlighted, to let him know just how wrong he is about Islam.
David says
The only way you can keep that made up agrument alive is to be assume no one will ever read the Quran, that be your department, and prove your point with evidence that it has nothing to do with Islam. Even though if I was a spokesman I’d come up with 100+ violent teachings in the quran, non of these offensive statesment can be interpreted as defensive but simply the reason why Al-Queda, Al-Shabab or ISIS exist.
Phil says
His comment`s are typical of the modern world leaders and are a calculated response to try and stop mass unrest in society. Imagine if leaders started saying facts….there would be a massive tide of backlash against the followers of that barbaric cult called islam…this is what they are afraid of. This the wrong course of action in my opinion..it will backfire on them (government`s), with people losing complete faith in their leaders and a even bigger problem will arise.
Aron says
To a certain extent you are right- that Ruling elite seek to sedate the natives from Retaliating.
But retaliations have never been there in any significant way to substantiate this sort of Rationale despite repeated regular attacks from islamists.Such retaliations have also been exceptions even in places like India -for instance Hindus retaliated massively against Muslim mob burning of 52 hindu pilgrims mostly women and children in Gujarat state 2002.
Even there, Hindus ceased to retaliate even as Islamists kept continued with Bomb attacks for a decade after that exceptional instance.
The real reason could be what they themselves stupidly say- ‘Otherwise saying it is Islam and Muslims who are at war with us would be to agree with the ‘ISIS -Al Qaeda Narrative’
These dimwits think such a ‘narrative’ will drive more muslims into ISIS laps…and what then?
In other words – they dont want this Fact about Islam admitted so Muslims will also begin like them to believe about Islam in this silly fashion.
Dorks.
Matthieu Baudin says
I hear that they produce an interesting soft cheese in Philadelphia. Are there any other highlights apart from the mayor and his dribbling countenance?
duh_swami says
Versions…We got the hijacked version, the twisted versiopn the radical version, the extremist version, the perverted version, all invented by kuffar with dubious motivations…Now Krouthammer and Rep King on Kelly show called it a ;strain’…essentially agreeing with the mayor…
Beware of kuffar who speak with forked tongue,,,They are with ‘them’, not us…
Bob M says
Stolen from the internet…
It’s like a bad Monty Python sketch:
Jihadist speaking; liberal answering ….
“We did this because our holy texts exhort us to to do it.”
“No you didn’t.”
“Wait, what? Yes we did…”
“No, this has nothing to do with religion. You guys are just using religion as a front for social and geopolitical reasons.”
“WHAT!? Did you even read our official statement? We give explicit Quranic justification. This is jihad, a holy crusade against pagans and disbelievers.”
“No, this is definitely not a Muslim thing. You guys are not true Muslims. You defame a great religion by saying so.”
“Huh!? Who are you to tell us we’re not true Muslims!? Islam is literally at the core of everything we do, and we have implemented the truest most literal and honest interpretation of its founding texts. It is our very reason for being.”
“Nope. We created you. We installed a social and economic system that alienates and disenfranchises you, and that’s why you did this. We’re sorry.”
“What? Why are you apologizing? We just slaughtered you mercilessly in the streets. We targeted unwitting civilians – disenfranchisement doesn’t even enter into it!”
“Listen, it’s our fault. We don’t blame you for lashing out.”
“Seriously, stop taking credit for this! We worked really hard to pull this off, and we’re not going to let you take it away from us.”
“No, we nourished your extremism. We accept the blame.”
“OMG, how many people do we have to kill around here to finally get our message across
billybob says
Well done!
Daniel Triplett says
Hilarious, because it’s true.
Judi says
And he managed to make that statement with a straight face!
CloudyDay says
WARNING TO USA: Islamic jihad imminent! The war is being lost without a battle.
buddy in texas says
Nothing funnier than listening to dumbocrats in high ranking positions defending Obama’s ignorant positions. This is a perfect example. And everybody wonders why Trump’s numbers keep rising.
Morningside says
Are the good citizens of Philadelphia able to correct an obvious mistake, or are they, like the good citizens of Chicago, stuck with an idiot mayor?
William Todd says
Everything I need to know about Islam, I learned on 9/11/2001. It is a blood-thirsty “religion”.
NancyAssaf says
The shooting had nothing to do with Islam? Yeah. And I’m the Queen of England.
Lee Arnold says
Are you a damned IDIOT! You need to resign and you are a disgrace to our country. This shooter was a Muslim terrorist, and there was no doubt about it as that is exactly what he said, so you need your fucking ears cleaned out.
DimmiNot says
I know that this tread is almost closed, but I have begun to see the common links in this issue. At the risk of painting with a broad brush, maybe someone else can explore this further…
1) Jim Kenny, mayor of PHL, is a Roman Catholic, educated in Jesuit high schools.
2) Bruno Forte is a RC
3) US Catholic Bishops support Islam as a valid partner to Christianity
4) Pope: so does he
5) Lutheran Church (numerous branches) agree and partner with ISNA
6) Angela Merkel is Lutheran.
7) Gretchen Carlson of FOX is Lutheran
8) Numerous of the strident TV journalists are RC
Maybe (just maybe) there is some connection between a leader’s “Christian” denomination and how much they support Islam?? If their church preaches a certain message, it is not surprising that they mouth the party-line.
Western Canadian says
No, not valid at all. All these people are members of a self appointed elite, none of them well educated, or ever intelligent in any measure. What the members of these churches think, influences them not in the least.
Rob says
Pure insanity! These ‘leaders’ of ours need to be exposed and cast aside. Michael Savage had it right when he said, ‘liberalism is a mental disorder’. Here’s my song called ‘Nothing to do with islam’:
MellowRebel says
LIBERAL DISEASE HAS FINALLY BEEN DIAGNOSED …. ITS HAS BEEN GIVEN THE NAME Emotional Diarrhea
ED
A condition characterized by explosive outbursts of thoughtlessness through the oral cavity, resulting in undesired consequences.
billybob says
Very nice!
Daniel Triplett says
Outstanding.
Atheist7 says
Someone has previously stated that repeating a lie does not make it true. Unfortunately, if a lie is repeated frequently enough, it becomes part of the mainstream thought process and therefore effectively becomes “truth”. This is what has happened to the idea that “Islam is a religion of Peace”. This single meme is something that can contribute to the Islamization of the West. It is up to us to explain the dual nature of Islam. Banning the Koran as racist hate literature would also help.
Rob says
Thanks Daniel!
billlybob says
Mayor of Philadelphia James Francis “Jim” Kenney attend a Catholic University (La Salle University) and regularly attends services of his Catholic church, but he is NOT a Catholic. Kenney is a politician and his actions are no reflection on Catholicism.
Jacob Bender, executive director of the Philadelphia chapter of the Council on American Catholic Relations, said the mayor “should not be seen as representative of Catholics or the faith of Catholicism,” and called for a thorough investigation of the mayor.
Mike says
After years of trying to get the message about Islam across to people, the events recently show It doesn’t really matter whether Islam has anything to do with this or not. The truth is it was a Muslim man who committed the committed the criminal act whether inspired or not by Islam and whether or not mentally challenged. Its no different with the sexual attacks across Europe on New Years Eve. We can debate till the cows come home with the liberal deniers over whether Islam was a factor but its clear now that most if not all of the male offenders on that night in Germany and elsewhere were Muslims. Clearly there is a big problem with young Muslim migrants and the liberal cover ups have now been blown apart.
Mike says
After years of trying to get the message about Islam across to people, the events recently show It doesn’t really matter whether Islam has anything to do with this or not. The truth is it was a Muslim man who committed the criminal act whether inspired or not by Islam and whether or not mentally challenged. Its no different with the sexual attacks across Europe on New Years Eve. We can debate till the cows come home with the liberal deniers over whether Islam was a factor but its clear now that most if not all of the male offenders on that night in Germany and elsewhere were Muslims. Clearly there is a big problem with young Muslim migrants and the liberal cover ups have now been blown apart.
MellowRebel says
Can a good Muslim be a good American? This question was forwarded to a friend who worked in Saudi Arabia for 20 years. The following is his reply:
Theologically – no. Because his allegiance is to Allah, the moon God of Arabia
Religiously- no. Because no other religion is accepted by his Allah except Islam (Quran, 2:256)(Koran)
Scripturally- no. Because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Quran.
Geographically- no. Because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially- no. Because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews..
Politically- no. Because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders), who teach annihilation of Israel and destruction of America, the great Satan.
Domestically- no. Because he is instructed to marry four women and beat and scourge his wife when she disobeys him (Quran 4:34)
Intellectually – no. Because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically- no. Because Islam, Muhammad, and the Quran do not allow freedom of religion and expression.. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually- no. Because when we declare ‘one nation under God,’ the Christian’s God is loving and kind, while Allah is NEVER referred to as Heavenly father, nor is he ever called love in The Quran’s 99 excellent names.
Therefore, after much study and deliberation…. Perhaps we should be very suspicious of ALL MUSLIMS in this country. – – – They obviously cannot be both ‘good’ Muslims and good Americans. Call it what you wish, it’s still the truth. You had better believe it. The more who understand this, the better it will be for our country and our future. The religious war is bigger than we know or understand.
Can a Muslim be a good soldier???
Army Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, opened fire at Ft. Hood and Killed 13. He is a good Muslim!!!
Footnote: The Muslims have said they will destroy us from within.
SO FREEDOM IS NOT FREE. THE MARINES WANT THIS TO ROLL ALL OVER THE U.S.
ninetyninepct says
Mayor “Angela” Jim Kenney.
Gene C Fowler says
There is but !, Islam. Islam is Islam is Islam. No good, no bad, just Islam. And the plan to rule the world. The Mayor, in this case, will aid their efforts.
MellowRebel says
A “GOOD MUSLIM” WILL HOLD THE BAD MUSLIMS BURKA WHILE HE RAPES YOUR WIFE CHILDREN AND MURDERS YOU !
Chris says
Here is a Democrat Lackey that’s lieing through his teeth. He was told what to say so it gives him and his cohorts in conjunction with the Democrat National Committee…time to make something plausible up.
if a perpetrator of a crime tells the Cops why he committed the crime. Who the f**k does a Lackey for the Democratic National Committee think he is to tell us that the reason the criminal committed the crime is based on what “they say” and not what the criminal say. In this case I suspect the the District Attorney and the Mayor, along with their Political Operatives will contrive a plausible reason and cut the shooter a deal if he agrees to go along with it. I guarantee the shooter will agree.
If they knew it wasn’t do to Islam like the Mayor emphatically said they did. He would have stated that specific reason at the Press conference.
This clown and his collaborators are actually protecting the demonic ideology of Islam.
James O'Connell says
Two extreme and simplistic reactions to these incidents are that, at one end, all Muslims are rabid killers and,at the other, that the attacks have nothing to do ‘with Islam. The last reaction provokes incredulity given the words oft he killers themselves. Theological interpretations are debatable but there is plenty in the Koran that can be referred to. It usually comes down to what is a ‘defensive war’ for Islam and such terms are always open to different interpretation
eduardo odraude says
A Caliph is permitted to declare offensive jihad.
eduardo odraude says
Notice also that Qur’an 9:29 does not say “Fight in self-defense” or the like. It says “Fight those who do not believe” in Islam.
It is false that Islam only has defensive jihad. If there really were only defensive jihad, the historian would have great difficulty explaining how in the first century after Muhammad’s death, Muslims conquered the whole of North Africa and broke into Spain, and conquered as well to the edges of India, for “defensive” reasons.
Kevin Rodela says
Once again, another bought and paid for politician telling us all to move along, nothing to see here folks. These politicians want to distract us all with shiny objects and try to convince us all that we did not all see what we just witnessed.
Dave J says
The US Justice Department should announce that the Koran has been found to be hate speech, possession is now illegal and all existing copies will be confiscated. (Not guns, Korans).
That should get the discussion rolling!
Mark says
Please view share and give a thumbs up to the following documentary, https://youtu.be/t_Qpy0mXg8Y. This would be good for people with any sympathy for Islam.
mario p says
So, are you Americans still voting for liberal Democrats this coming election season?
Matt Manos says
Obama must be paying this idiot off to make a statement like that, when the shooter admitted he did it for islam and isis…….And yes I know I did not capitalize those two words, that was intentional!
tom says
Matt,
This is the new Democratic party line. They are scared to death of Islam. Just look at Hillary Clinton stating she is afraid of the repercussions from Donald Trumps discussion about a temporary ban on Muslims from our country.
James Collinson says
The Democrats aren’t afraid of Islam. The only thing the Democrats and Hillary in particular are ever afraid of is losing their voting blocs, namely Urban Blacks, Hispanics, Women, and White Liberals, all of which believe in Multiculturalism. They therefore endanger American citizens needlessly in order to keep themselves in power.
Tom says
James,
Point taken! I fear for our immediate future and the future of the country. I am really hoping that Trump’s platform will be law & order, defense buildup, immigration reform, and putting Islam in it’s place.
I hope the police officer [Hartnett] sues Islam, the Imam and the Mosque the perp attended.
Stephanie says
Great idea!! Put Islam in trial, under American law, and prove that the two CANNOT COEXIST!
John Burns says
Right. Dems like Muslims, for now, because they vote seven or eight to one for the donkey party. When the dune coons start sawing off Democrat heads they may have a different take on multiculturalism.
John Ceglarski says
I’m sure they will make sure they don’t cut the head off the democrat who cut’s them their welfare check though.
Dave In Arizona says
It’s not that the Democrats like Muslims it’s the Dems USING the Muslims (and vice versa) to gain what they really want: take complete control of the US. Once that happens, all Hell breaks loose.
underbed cat says
Mayor Kenny, you have made a statement that may not be based in reality, information about islamic jihad is available. just saying.
Tom says
He just demonstrated that Philadelphia elected a buffoon. I weep for our future as we are giving into the Islamist culture. Most of the major cities in the US where ethnic Muslims congregate have become crime ridden cesspools.
People: this is a well structured plan by Islam. Deny everything; admit nothing! We are at war. I was born at 52nd and Spruce, a few blocks from this attempted assassination. We moved 56 years ago because the neighborhood was turning bad. Now look at it!
Dave In Arizona says
This Democrat mayor Kenney is just following int he footsteps of our fearless leader Obama who asserted that the “Isamic State” is not Islamic. Makes perfect sense if you’re a liberal loon.
tom says
Dave,
Is this not unbelievable? I am beginning to believe that something more sinister is going on here. The entire country is watching this idiot and mocking him.
Robert Becker says
Can you spell M-O-R-O-N ?
tom says
The law abiding citizens of Filthydelphia must be passing bricks out their anus. Center City has become no mans land at night. It used to be West Philly and parts of South Philly. Bring back Frank Rizzo…He would not tolerate this nonsense.
Link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Rizzo
We miss you Frank; you were right !!!!!!!!!!!!!
sidney penny says
“Edward Archer said he shot Philadelphia Police Officer Jesse Hartnett because “police bend laws that are contrary to the teachings of the Quran.” ”
Do police bend laws that are contrary to the teaching of the Quran?
tom says
No, since we and the police are not bound by laws in the Queran!! This must stop and soon. These folks are thinking like we are still in the Bronze Age. Subjugation of women is not socially accepted behavior. Look to Germany last week and witness the aftermath of rape in the streets.
Do you know that Muslims have 26 rules for using the restroom? Google it and you will be amazed.This is really simple. Muslims hate Israel; we support Israel; hence, Muslims hate us!
Trump is right. Lets ban them from entering our country until they get their act together.
TCinPHL says
Lots of paranoia here. It’s so easy to attack Islam and say that it’s violent, when Christian groups have also been violent. Look at those who kill doctors and proclaim violence against women at healthcare centers — in the name of their faith. How is this not the same?
Islam does not condone violence. There are splinter groups in every mainstream group (including Christianity) that promote and condone violence. It does not mean that the religion espouses these beliefs.
Tom says
Oh Bull Shit….Islam does not only condone violence, the Queran preaches it. We do not believe you any longer when you espouse that party line. You are violet animals hellbent on killing everyone not a Muslim…Look it up in your Queran.
Remember from history when we were attacked in Pearl Harbor; some of the Japanese were scared to death that ” all we did was to awaken a sleeping giant”.We are getting ready to wake up. VOTE TRUMP!!
How much of this shit do you think we will put up with?
Dave In Arizona says
Sadly, too much.
John Burns says
Exactly! Any Muslim that preaches the non-violent nonsense is engaging in Taqqiya, Islam’s concept of deceit and lying to further this filthy scourge. Violent Islam is Islam per se. It is orthodox Islam. Enough!
Atheist7 says
TCinPHL, It is true that a lot of Christians have been violent. In the early days of Christianity, Constantine, Charlemagne, and many others had a convert or die policy much like ISIS today. the God of the Old Testament was into genocide, infanticide, animalcide, and even in the New Testament Jesus was not to happy with underperforming fig trees. Be that as it may, Christians and Jews tend to ignore the bad parts of their holy texts. We no longer burn people alive, stone them to death, or kill them for working on the Sabbath. Thus, we have adapted to living in the modern world.
Unfortunately, the Koran cannot be changed. To do so means death. So by ignoring the violent parts of the Koran you become an apostate and can be killed. In Islam there is no separation of church and state. You cannot say that you will obey the secular laws of the country that you live in. If you are in a minority, than you must feign compliance until your numbers grow enough so that you can change the secular laws into sharia law by the democratic process.
So TC,
A. if you are a Muslim,
(1) I am sorry, but you are going to Hell because you think that Islam is non-violent or
(2) you are a Muslim and you know that Islam is violent but it is OK to lie to non-believers.
B. If you are not a Muslim check out http://www.inquiryintoislam.com/2010/07/three-things-about-islam-video.html to get a little more information on the subject.
Michael says
Atheist7, it is true that throughout history, a lot of atheists have been violent. Without going back centuries, we find Pol Pot, Mao, and Stalin committing more murders than all religions combined. (I leave out Hitler as he seemed to have some wackie occult religion of his own to some extent.) I don’t know that there is any evidence for a “convert or die” policy under Constantine. He had some Roman temples torn down near the end of his reign, but that’s about it. Certainly, though, the middle ages were a time of outrageous ignorance of the central teaching of Christ – love your enemies. Europe was given over to wars. Still, the core teaching couldn’t be silenced forever. That said, at present there is one religion that is taking the cake in killing. On that, your comments are dead on (pardon the pun). Chapeau.
Thomas Jefferson says
Can you say sedition and treason? Did anyone reading this comment say this oath- “I, _____, do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic. So help me God.”
We are in a war of words for now… May the YHWH have mercy on us, and our children.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r2ra7wD39dY&list=PL9E20B3D227C9B593&feature=plpp_play_all
“Leathernecks” stems from the Marines participation in the Islamic Jihad-Barbary Wars, our first war after independance. When boarding the ships of hostile Islamic Jihad sailors (pirates), Marines were given added protection against cutlass beheading from the heavy leather collar. “to the shores of Tripoli!”
http://www.fsmitha.com/h3/h27b-pirx.html
DaveC says
Send this to the idiot mayor
http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=2728&utm_source=reembed&utm_medium=endscreen&utm_campaign=popular