In FrontPage today I discuss how the British Parliament went into full Sharia mode as it debated banning the Presidential candidate for his unwelcome opinions.
Say goodnight, Winston. Sayonara, Shakespeare. It’s light’s out in the United Kingdom. In Britain, it’s all over but the Sharia. This was made abundantly clear on Monday, when the British Parliament held a three-hour debate on whether or not to ban Donald Trump from the country.
It used to be that only serious criminals, severe threats to the public order, were ever banned from countries. Ostensibly, that is still the case, but the idea of who and what constitutes a threat to the public order has changed. Multitudes in Britain want to keep Trump out of their green and pleasant land not because he absconded with the church funds, or plotted bomb attacks in the London Tube, but because he said that in light of the jihad terror threat and the impossibility of distinguishing Islamic jihadists from peaceful Muslims, there should be a temporary moratorium on Muslim immigration into the U.S.
For that, the learned Parliamentarians debated banning Trump from Britain, and in the process, heaped abuse upon him, calling him a “fool,” a “buffoon” and a “wazzock,” which is apparently a word more properly applied to those who voted for David Cameron. One thing that never became clear during the entire three hours of heated discussion, however, was what terrible results the foes of Trump thought might ensue from his entry into the Sceptered Isle. Did they think that if he repeated his call for a moratorium on Muslim immigration on British soil, that Muslims, those notorious shrinking violets, would retreat to psychologists’ couches in such droves that the British mental health system would be overwhelmed?
More likely, the unspoken fear was that if Trump entered Britain, Muslims would riot. And so those British politicians who have insisted that Islam is a Religion of Peace moved to ban him, knowing but afraid to admit that the adherents of the most famous peaceful religion in the world could quite easily become violent if crossed. To avoid crossing them was their highest of priorities – and as Sharia forbids criticism of Islam and offense to Muslims, they eagerly became Sharia-compliant, eagerly anticipating the electoral rewards that were certain to follow in the wake of their submission.
The whole thing looks now as if it was just a chance for Trump’s foes to do a bit of grandstanding and show their Muslim masters how solidly they were in their corner, but seriously, why not ban Trump? After all, I myself was banned from entering Britain for saying that Islam “is a religion and is a belief system that mandates warfare against unbelievers for the purpose for establishing a societal model that is absolutely incompatible with Western society.”
The anti-Trump movement in the UK implied that Trump might escape due punishment for his heinous crimes because he is rich: “If the United Kingdom is to continue applying the ‘unacceptable behaviour’ criteria to those who wish to enter its borders, it must be fairly applied to the rich as well as poor, and the weak as well as powerful.” But that’s a lot of hooey. The “unacceptable behavior” criteria is already applied unfairly. Just days before Pamela Geller and I were banned, the British government admitted Saudi Sheikh Mohammed al-Arefe. Al-Arefe has said: “Devotion to jihad for the sake of Allah, and the desire to shed blood, to smash skulls, and to sever limbs for the sake of Allah and in defense of His religion, is, undoubtedly, an honor for the believer. Allah said that if a man fights the infidels, the infidels will be unable to prepare to fight.”
That was acceptable in Britain. My work, which has consistently denounced violence and been in defense of the equality of rights of all before the law, was not. That’s a fair application of the “unacceptable behaviors” criteria?
If I can get banned for making a manifestly true observation about Islam, then Trump can certainly be banned for calling for a temporary moratorium on Muslim immigration in view of jihad terror. The UK continues to demonize and stigmatize resistance to jihad terror, and will probably continue to do so until it is far too late: the last free Briton will be congratulating himself that he was not “Islamophobic” as the knife slices through his neck.
As Britain continues to make itself an international laughingstock, transgressing its core principles by banning people for holding unpopular opinions, there is one thing that can be said for that once-great nation: as Sharia states go, it is a hell of a lot funnier than Saudi Arabia or Iran.

nomoreislamicstate says
Trump does not have just opinion, he has facts! Shengen is about to collapse due to the migrants: http://www.blindfoldnation.com/index.php/2016/01/20/schengen-zone-at-risk-of-collapse-in-two-months/ All of Europe is having problems due to islam. It is not a race that causes these problems, it is a religion! No other religious groups is causing these problems! A proper vetting process is impossible to find, the only solution is to stop letting any of these people into western nations. Let them stay and fight for their own countries, if they truly want peace, they need to change their countries. Anyone notice how most of the war torn nations are islamic run states?
Marty says
I agree 100%.
Genuine asylum seekers would go for a culture similar to the one they have
left.
If England & Scotland were at war, 95% of young men would stay to fight,
but Welsh refugees would head for a similar culture, preferably nearby.
They’d go to Ireland, France or the Low Countries.
If they wanted to travel far, it would be North America or Australia or New Zealand
where the culture is similar.
The best of these muslim “asylum seekers” are cowards & seekers after
the state subsidised Western Good Life.
The worst are jihadists.
Parliament showed how disgusting many MPs are by even considering banning Trump.
It can’t fortunately.
nomoreislamicstate says
You got it, the best are freeloaders, leaches, that is why most want to go to Germany (best payout for leaches). The worst are Jihadists and that is a large number, at least 20%.
Laura says
An important fact that many have missed is that the ‘refugees’ who are almost entirely men, are not fleeing war, neither are they cowards: they are bringing war with them.Their intention is to inflict economic ruin on the countries that they attach themselves, like leeches, to, and to terrorise the people.
If we thought that European governments would respond firmly and uncompromisingly with the invasion, we were sadly mistaken. All indications are that the political elites are prepared to force their citizens to accept and embrace the most evil, violent ideology that the world has ever known.
Anyone brave enough to speak out against the invaders is immediately labelled a ‘racist’ and an ‘islamophobe’ and banned from entering the UK and smeared by the cowardly leftist media.
If (?) civil war breaks out, it looks as though patriots will have to take arms against their own police and armed forces, who it seems will defend muslims to the death.
Heaven help the UK, Europe and all other western nations.
wildjew says
What Would a Donald Trump Presidency Look Like?
http://www.dailywire.com/news/2804/what-would-donald-trump-presidency-look-ben-shapiro
Diane Harvey says
And what if Trump becomes President!
Count on the British to always be there when they need us.
Goat Pimp says
UK bans:
Robert Spencer
Pamela Geller
Geert Wilders
Michael Savage
Mike Tyson
Donald J Trump (pending)
UK allows admittance to:
ISIS*
HAMAS*
Hizballah*
Palestine Liberation Front*
Palestinian Islamic Jihad*
al-Qa’ida*
Jaish-e-Mohammed*
Jemaah Islamiya*
Ansar al-Islam*
Islamic Jihad Union*
Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami*
al-Shabaab*
Harakat ul-Jihad-i-Islami*
Army of Islam*
Indian Mujahedeen*
Boko Haram*
al-Nusrah Front*
Mujahidin Shura Council in the Environs of Jerusalem*
* with valid UK or EU passport
jihad3tracker says
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jo says
British parliament is afraid of Donald Trump and what he stands for. Well, thousands upon thousands of us true americans who love america are standing with, beside, and behind him and more are being added daily. He is our speaker. Christain & sharia law do not mix and never will. What is the answer. Sharia law needs to take a row boat on their own nickle and leave the United States of America. America is not about cutting off heads or violent acts. We have freedom of speech and your choice of religion or none. Folks who commit treason against the united states of america should be executed…..period.
Note: this is not a hate statement against any race, only a fact that if you don’t love america and just can’t help yourself on wanting to harm her then let me make this clear, we don’t love our war enemies and will do what is necessary to protect her.
abad says
We may very well end up going to war again with England – if to liberate it from Islam.
Trump 2016
Wayne says
I’m British and I’ll beg Trump for this. We are being betrayed, forced out, raped and replaced. SOS
This has been readied for decades, Half the people are brainwashed by our traitorous media and government
Daniel Triplett says
I’m a proud American, and a grandson of John Howland, one of 43 survivors of 1620 Mayflower. But we came from England, so we have the same DNA.
Perhaps the UK’s best hope is to put William and Kate on the throne ASAP. Charles is a fool about Islam, and his mother is out of touch with today’s threats as well. Her kingdom is collapsing, and she apparently has no clue how to pull out of the dive.
But William and Harry are both military veterans, for which I’ve always had great respect for them. They see the World differently. Harry was a front lines Infantry Officer. William wanted to see action, but his superiors refused to allow it. Both of those brothers have huge balls, and they may see today’s World as Chuck and Liz cannot.
Put William on the throne now. The British, Americans, and indeed the World will benefit greatly.
Bill says
I have frequently read Islamists speak or write about their hatred of Western “arrogance”. I think the Western socialists interpret that to mean a hatred of the West’s economic and military strength and the projection of it. Certainly, that is part of it. So the Western socialists respond by apologizing, pandering, becoming more secular, offering to shower its wealth on Islam, and to become militarily less strong so as to be less hated. But I believe the real arrogance that Islamists hate is the arrogance of the liberal West that proclaims “once you are here in Europe and see how wonderful our laws and liberal institutions are, you will want to become part of it, support it and share in it”. That is the Western socialist dream, now enforced throughout Europe as official policy and no criticism or interference with that policy will be tolerated from any quarter. The dream will never be realized because Islamists hate it all, believe their laws and customs to be superior in every respect and they know that violence is the ultimate tool to enforce submission and compliance. We see it practiced daily on a global basis. The socialist European nations are surrendering at an accelerating pace and Islam will eventually dispose of the arrogance of which I am speaking of in their classic, time-honored fashion of resort to intimidation and violence.
It is interesting to me that the few nations appearing to offer any sort of resistance (i.e. Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland) still remember what it was like to exist under authoritarian government imposed on them and backed by both the threat of violence and the use of it.
Mark says
No big deal here because islam owns the UK. They sold many posts and other important posts to the islamic governments.
I would not want my POTUS to go there but make them come to him until islam is Banned over there as I think Mr.Trump will do here in the USA
pdxnag says
In my opinion Muslims, who are citizens exclusively of their claimed worldwide Islamic Ummah, should not have a right to vote in any free nation. Correcting this can be done long, long before they are all expelled.
The counter argument is that if you are going to allow any substantial numbers of Muslims in your midst then you must also surrender your freedoms (eventually all of them) to the grotesque tyranny of their Sharia and rule by Muslims only.
It is a binary choice, i.e., only two options. It is they who leave you no other option.
mortimer says
pdxnag brings up an interesting point: If Muslims are citizens of The Ummah, can they be truly loyal to another state? The answer is very likely ‘no’ according to Islamic jurisprudence. Any oath made to a Kafir nation would have to be an insincere formality and completely unbinding on a Muslim.
To give Muslims the chance to renounce the Ummah, would be one way of making them leave the country voluntarily.
harbidoll says
all muslims have dual citizenship’s, the country they occupied & the Umma
Myxlplik says
We sold out the same way the British have. In the late Sixties when we amended our immigration policy such that it virtually ignores 3,000 years of human history, and in doing so we purposefully ignore culture as it relates to social cohesion to the point that questions along these lines, which relate to social cohesion, are censored as racism, rendering us completely defenseless as a culture. Our immigration policy is essentially a crap shoot of cultural suicide. I really doubt in the extreme that our founding fathers intended our constitution to be a suicide pact.
Ideas cause cultures to fail, when cultures fail new political lines are drawn as civilizations fall and new ones rise. I was listening to a speech by Putin several years ago, and he was commenting on how great America was in many aspects, but that our principles regarding Multiculturalism had never been tried. My opinion is that the West as we know it will fall, lines will eventually be redrawn and we’ll try again, because you simply can’t live in the unreality that race, religion, and culture don’t matter. Eventually you will be destroyed, and your ideas will be tossed in the trash bin of history if they don’t work.
It’s possible to turn around and amend our path, but one way or another we’ll change.
Oppressaphobe says
Where is it in the constitution that the people themselves don’t decide immigration law?
I don’t understand why Americans don’t demand that the United States take care of its own first.
And after the government fails to provide jobs and a decent standard of living, they simply bring in new voters to keep them in power?
HOW DO THEY GET AWAY WITH THIS?
Jay Boo says
I can find no fault with the British Parliament banning Donald Trump.
They had no other choice.
How else could British politicians account for their extreme cowardice of allowing Muslim rape gangs to roam unopposed for years while totally ignoring the pleas for help from 12 year old girls who were beaten and bloodied and tortured.
The British culture is about keeping up appearances.
Rich says
“…the last free Briton will be congratulating himself that he was not “Islamophobic” as the knife slices through his neck.”
Well said.
mortimer says
Cultural Marxists have made totalitarian, misogynistic Muslims the ‘noble savages’ who may not be criticized.
mortimer says
Yes…let’s not use logic in the British parliament!
If MPs used logic, they would say 1) SINCE Islam is ‘the religion of peace’…therefore 2) ALL good Muslims are peaceful…3) SINCE ‘the vast majority’ of Muslim are peaceful, we have nothing to fear from a ‘tiny minority of extremists’. Moreover, SINCE the UK supports the freedom of expression, we WELCOME the opportunity to invite TRUMP to debate his wrong ideas with the BEST British debaters and PROVE HIM WRONG!
We will then show the world the superiority of British thought!
(yeah…sure)
salim says
The debate was an embarrassment to the UK.
Why such a ban was considered only in the UK? Even Muslim countries didn’t consider banning Trump.
But what do you expect a from a country that admits convicted extremists and pays them benefits?
I only wished if they decided for the ban … and Trump wins to become the president of the USA.
I am not surprised that many Muslims have longed believed that it is either Britain or Sweden which will become the first official Islamic state in Europe.
nacazo says
An ex-navy seal who fought in iraq against jihadists discuss “islamophobia” in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnKcquMobHQ
The whole interview is fascinating but the “islamaphibia” discussion is aroung 1:25 into the conversation.
nacazo says
1:35:00 the word “islamophobia” is used.
1:25:00 discussion on isis
Myxlplik says
Interesting, they really went out of their way to disinvolve Islam from the conflict now engulfing the world.
Quite interesting indeed, we’ve been fighting this “thing” insert terror or whatever for nearly a generation now, it’s worse than ever & the conclusion is we just need to destroy the bad guys in Ramadi.
Get back to me in another 20 years jeez.
13pr108 says
off topic: recent attack on institution of learning in pakiland – was this handiwork of kala pani – blackwater?
usually jihad watch quick to cover islam-violence but i guess this is just violence between moslems?
best solution is deprogramming camps – people need quality education and common sense. Nothing else can combat hatred and slavery.
Can’t wait ’til Panjab prospers.
nacazo says
Obama said he’s not interested in notions of America leading of winning.
http://thefederalist.com/2015/11/16/obama-on-isis-im-not-interested-in-american-leadership-or-america-winning/
CogitoErgoSum says
It’s like not allowing food into your house because it will bring out all the mice and rats hiding in the walls. The problem is that you will go hungry and the rats will eventually start nipping at the children’s toes and the home will eventually become uninhabitable for human beings. Great Britain has become infested with Muslim rats who must not be stirred into activity. The only way to get rid of the vermin now is to call in an exterminator or else burn the house to the ground and rebuild.
Sam says
Yes. However you are proposing a logical, common sense approach to get rid of Evil. That is not possible in the land of liberals.
Champ says
The UK continues to demonize and stigmatize resistance to jihad terror, and will probably continue to do so until it is far too late: the last free Briton will be congratulating himself that he was not “Islamophobic” as the knife slices through his neck.
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Excellent point!
And if they want to call it “islamophobia”, then fine, so be it — embrace it. Since being an “islamophobe” can be viewed as a GOOD thing, not a bad one. It’s time to flip this phobia-phrase *back* on them and calmly explain why it’s only basic common sense to fear things that are dangerous. Fearing danger is completely human and it isn’t something anyone ought to be ashamed of. But of course mohammedans love to use *shame* as one way to manipulate and control others, since islam is a shame-based ideology. So what’s to fear about evil islam? Ok, yes, that is a rhetorical question, lol.
Tanya says
Those pathetic dweebs in the UK parliament are more interested in bending over and curtailing to their new Islamofeists masters than standing up for the rights and privileges of their own people. Trump has more ethical and moral fibre in his little finger than most of the British parliament. Britannia couldn’t rule a bath tub with these pathetic islamo pandering appeasers in charge.
RT says
“Son: What is a traitor?
Lady Macduff: Why, one that swears and lies.
Son: And be all traitors that do so?
Lady Macduff: Everyone that does so is a traitor, and must be hanged.
Son: Who must hang them?
Lady Macduff Why, the honest men.
Son: Then the liars and swearers are fools; for there are liars and swearers enow to beat the honest men, and hang up them.”
― William Shakespeare, Macbeth
More Ham Ed says
The British mental health system:
Wellington says
A real irony here is that what Trump said, i.e., calling for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the US, is only a small first step and nothing more. Trump doesn’t really “get” Islam and he has made this abundantly clear by condemning Pamela Geller for holding the Mohammed cartoon contest last May and by the fact that he has never once addressed Islam overall as something inimical to many Western values. Trump merely has stumbled into the truth to a limited amount and even this is too much for all the silly dhimmi twits out there who continue to go to the mat for a faith which, if only given the chance, would destroy freedom of speech, freedom of religion, women’s rights, gay rights, equality under the law and other good things like being able to purchase fine beer.
What is really needed are Western politicians aplenty in one Western nation after another, like the Czech President, who are ready to clearly note that Muslims are a pain in the ass and don’t assimilate and thus should not be welcomed at all into Western nations. Not there yet. Not even close. Damn shame. Stupid beyond all measure too. The madness continues. I need a beer.
Daniel Triplett says
@Wellington
You’re criticisms of Trump are accurate. I agree.
When you and I last spoke several months ago, neither one of us wanted him. You were liking Carson, while I was liking Cruz.
Things have changed a bit since then though. Carson’s poll numbers are dropping precipitously, and Trump has revealed an attitude toward Islam that is different, and more aggressive than the rest.
I must say, I have a new respect for Trump.
Specifically, when he talked about “Thousands and thousands of Muslims cheering from NJ as the WTC came down.” He also speaks about a “Ban on ALL Muslims entering the US until we figure out what’s going on.” I’ve also heard him many times ID the issue as “Islam,” dropping the “Radical” BS.
No other POTUS candidate has had the balls to say these things.
I also like how he has strong reverence for America’s most ruthless War Generals such as Patton, MacArthur, and LeMay. He said those are the kinds of Generals he would put in charge of the fighting. And since all 3 and 4 Star Generals are handpicked or dismissed at the President’s discretion, he would have the authority to do that overnight.
No, he doesn’t understand the Islamic threat as Robert Spencer does. He likely doesn’t understand it as well as you or I do either. But, he knows there’s a problem there. There’s no arguing he’s a very smart man, and with just a few briefings from an expert like Robert or others, he could see the problem as you and I do. Moreover, he’s personally on Twitter daily, doing his own Tweets, so if there’s something you want to say to him about Islam, he will personally read and consider it. No other candidate gives us that kind of access to his head.
My guess is he will win the GOP nomination, and being the brawler he is, he’ll destroy any fool the Dummycrats put against him in the General Election.
I’ve been a big fan of Cruz too. But Trump’s response to Cruz’s “NY values” attack in the debate was brilliant. IMHO, that cost Cruz the election. I think this is a done deal now, and I’ll be happy to put my full support toward President Trump. Washington isn’t working, and I’m excited to watch him blow the whole thing up, and give Americans what they really want to see.
Actually, I’m disappointed to see the Trump/Cruz bromance end, because I would like to have seen them both on the the same ticket for the General.
What do you think?
Daniel Triplett says
(First word is supposed to be “Your,” not *you’re*) A 5 minute edit window would be swell.
Wellington says
Sorry, Daniel. I hit the wrong reply link. My comment to yours lies above.
Daniel Triplett says
@Wellington
I hope you’re right about a Trump/Cruz reconciliation. Naturally, I guess, it’s inevitable that they’ll throw some dirt at each other to get through the primaries, since both want their name to appear first on that ticket. In the end though, I think they do respect each other. So hopefully they can patch things up as soon as the nominee is selected. I believe they’d both do a fantastic job for America.
I don’t understand why the Islamic jihad isn’t the only thing everyone is talking about. It’s the biggest threat ever to face mankind, yet people are more concerned about who’s winning “Dancing with the Stars.”
Never again will I criticize our grandfathers for ignoring the Holocaust. Back then, they were totally dependent on whatever information the newspaper editors and radio producers wished to share with them. But with today’s information age, when anyone can access any information he wants anytime, and with our enemy spewing endless amounts of video and other messaging explaining to the World exactly what they are doing and what they intend to do, we STILL ignore it. The indifference is shocking. There’s a genocide in progress of Christians and Jews, and apparently no one gives a damn.
Even my own immediate family is ignorant, thinking there’s really nothing to see here. Even as I was spending 6 straight years in theater getting shot at, my only brother spent his time marching on the National Mall with his peacenik pals holding signs protesting the war, aiding and abetting the enemy. He may as well have been standing right next to me on the front lines with a loudspeaker calling me and the other 500,000 American brothers all war criminals. Because it had the same effect. We rarely speak anymore. He voted for Obama twice, and still carries his water.
Yes, let’s hope Trump is a fast learner. I’m guessing a guy worth $10 Billion figures out things quick. I wish I had his kind of talent. I can fly an airplane like nobody’s business, but would rather know how to develop property and build 90 story buildings for profit. The man has his choice of trophy wives too. I doubt he puts up with the kind of crap from women that you and I must endure (3 divorces of my own).
More than anything else though, I see Trump as an ass-kicker. I used to think that any POTUS ought to have worn his country’s military uniform to be qualified to be CINC, but I no longer think that. By that logic, both John McStain and Lindsey Grahamnesty would make a better President, but of course either one of those d-bags would be a disaster.
For many years now, I’ve looked forward to scrolling down these JW threads to see what Wellington has to say. You’re a smart guy. You always have good perspective and salient points to share. Entertaining and informative, you have influence on me, and I assume many others.
Remember what I said about Twitter. Donald Trump (@realDonaldTrump) is on there daily, and he does all his own Tweets. This is very rare for a person of his stature to grant us that kind of access to him. He will read whatever you want to say to him, and often times he will respond directly to you. If you’re not on Twitter already, you should consider signing up. It’s a great way to broadcast your message to the World, and you have much to share that would interest Trump and others.
Twitter has a 140 character limit, which is why it’s so popular. Getting a stranger to invest 10 minutes to read what you have to say is tall order, but everyone is willing to read a pithy couple of sentences directed toward them, particularly if there’s an interesting picture ore meme attached.
If you want to say more than 140 characters, go to medium.com, where you can write essays that attach easily to your Tweet. I often do this with my proposed Counter-jihad solution, and it always gets great response. About half the people used to think my ideas were crazy, but no one says that anymore. At least 90% of the readers agree with my strategy. FWIW, my Twitter username is @dantriplett, if you want to check it out sometime to get some ideas on how you could use your own account to spread the word.
Stay strong Brother. This fight is gonna be “Yuge!” (to quote The Donald)
Wellington says
First of all, Daniel, thank you for your service to America. Just about my greatest regret in life is that I did not serve in the American military. Indeed, when I was in my stupid young years, I had a low opinion of it. Now, I consider the American military (hopefully led by a Commander-in-Chief who truly values its uniqueness and importance, which the current Chief Executive clearly does not) the single greatest guarantor in all the world against the forces of barbarism and ignorance prevailing. Actually, I can get at times very irritated by those who don’t see this———-and so many do not. I pose to such people when I come across them the proposition of considering the last hundred years of mankind with one exception——no American military. This tends to shut up even the most clueless, though a few here and there are so invincibly ignorant that they still don’t catch my drift.
Second, thanks for this particular comment of yours and for your comments in general here at JW. My best to you and yours. May 2016 elect the best person to the Presidency among the prevailing field, though I do sometimes wonder if even the best of this prevailing field is good enough. Could need a Lincoln, a Churchill, a Reagan or a Thatcher right now and often times I find myself thinking there are none in sight. Need ’em now. Oh yes, all the West does. The well hidden iniquity which is the Islamic faith must be opposed by those possessed of greatness. Not sure anyone in America right now meets this bar in the political realm. Sure hope so though, as I’m certain you do. Take care, pal.
خَليفة says
I wonder how easy it is to get banned from UK.
I mean what if thousands of us regular people sent the UK embassy in our home country a letter indicating that we share the same views on Islam as Robert And Pamela. AND that we intend to travel to UK and meet with groups and explain why we hold those beliefs. We would explain that we know Robert and Pamela are banned from UK and would like to make sure that, even though we share the same beliefs, that we would be allowed to enter the country and give talks on the incompatibility of Islam with western values, since our names are not officially banned. We just want to verify our eligibility to enter the UK.
It would kinda be fun to be banned from UK, maybe even can be used to pick up chicks. The last time I went to UK some jackarse gave me counterfeit money as change, English food is awful, trying to find decent help in a store is near impossible – The UK is one place I never ever need to visit again.
Maybe the USA should do a reverse revolution and take control of UK making it the 51th state. Exile the royals to Saudi Arabia.
mortimer says
If they ban Trump, big deals in Scotland and elsewhere may not take place. Money talks.
blitz2b says
I wonder which lobby funded Obama…. Was it covertly the Saudis? coz the big “O” went all ga ga bowing before the Saudi tyrant king right after he was elected POTUS.
Obama has been shoving down Islam down America’s throat ever since he was elected.
Anyone denying this would have to be a retard to not see how he is destroying this great country by claiming that Islam was in the fabric of America and giving it a faux status of nation building.
Trump has a lot of cleaning up of Obama’s mess to do…. I sincerely hope America doesn’t make the same mistake thrice by electing the she devil instead….
Go Trump!
Oppressaphobe says
I did some simple research on Barach Obama before he was elected, because I wanted to know who this guy was. I followed the money trail, just a little bit, and it was patently obvious to me that many of the donors, the financial people behind his campaign, many higher up type organizers were decidedly middle-eastern and it was the first time I ran into the term sharia loan, etc…
You did not have to look very far to see the muslim connection to barach Hussein Obama. I spent the rest of the time trying to warn everybody. But the financial collapse put a damper on people’s curiosity.
Does anybody think for a split second that the financial collapse, right before Obama’s election, was not cause DIRECTLY BY PEOPLE TIED TO OBAMA? Of course, he is connected to some of the biggest money in the wordl Soros? Saudi Arabia? Google? GE? On and on and on….
Oppressaphobe says
And I am not a Hillary fan but it does seem to me that she gets more scrutiny about foreign money than Obama ever got.
Did any body EVER look at Barach Hussein Obama’s money trail?????
We know Michelle got BIG BUCKS in an under-handed sneaky deal involving her so-called job in the healthcare industry (then he rammed through obamacare so who knows what that was all about).
The Obama’s are the dirtiest, nastiest, most crooked “folks” that have ever inhabited the WH. Their entire life has been deal after deal after Chicago-style deal. They are the most upward climbing scum that ever drew the breath of life.
But they get cast as what: IDEOLOGUES? That provides nice cover for them. They are all about their money and power and always have been. He would not have made it to the white house if he did not have substantial backing.
But we castigate Bill and Hillary, but we won’t say a peep about Obama and his dirty dealings and his money grubbing: Solindra and the list goes on.
We should leave Hillary the hell alone. Why? Because Obama was her boss and don’t tell me that he did not SET HER UP TO FALL.
If she gets indicted,THEN OBAMA AND A BUNCH OF OTHERS NEED TO BE INDICTED TOO.
linnte says
You mean boats not buses right? Hahaha!
Angemon says
There’s this thing called the Eurotunnel…
Truth says
The UK doesn’t believe in freedom of speech, never has.
Bonnie Prince Charlie says
Let’s understand the context and get this in perspective. In the UK there is a law which states that any petition on any subject presented to Parliament has to be debated in Parliament if it attracts more than 250,000 signatures. And that’s what happened here. The hard left launched this petition and promoted it strongly. They achieved the required target and so the subject was debated. End of.
If you read the transcript of the debate you’ll see that whilst there was some criticism by some members of the Conservative ruling party (our equivalent of your Republicans) of what Mr Trump said – and I do believe he could have expressed himself better – all the vindictive and vicious attacks came from the left wing opposition, mainly from Labour (our equivalent of your Democrats) which is drifting towards 1930s Russian communist ideology under its new leader Jeremy Corbyn.
The whole debate did not generate much media interest or excitement here and no vote was taken. Even if there had been, it would have been non-binding; such is the nature of these debates. So whilst we have a Conservative government in the UK, the chances of Mr Trump being banned from entering the country are minimal. If however Labour win the next election (in 2020) …………..
As it happens, I’m in favour of these debates even if I don’t like the subject matter for two main reasons: it demonstrates the UK’s commitment to Parliamentary freedom of speech which the left seek to deny outside parliament; and it creates an opportunity to establish the position and attitude of many MPs whose voices are not normally heard, giving us a clearer picture of friend, foe and undecided in the wider parliamentary community. It’s good to know your enemy and debates such as this tend to expose how people think.
Finally I want to comment on the exclusion of Mr Spencer and Ms Geller from the UK. I and quite a few others who support their work believe that the UK government did them a favour because they were prevented from addressing a small-in-number but very loud and vocal hard right group – regarded by all and sundry as nothing less than Nazis – whose target for vilification had only recently turned from the Jews to the Muslims. And in fact it has swung back: in June 2015 they planned to hold a rally in Golders Green – a major Jewish area in London – against the ‘Jewification’ of Britain but this was cancelled by the police because they could not guarantee the safety of these demonstrators. The sudden interest in baseball by young orthodox Jews and their acquisition of the appropriate equipment was perhaps a determining factor.
There is a tendency to judge people by the company they keep and I shudder at the thought of the damage to Mr Spencer’s and Ms Geller’s reputation and standing even amongst their supporters in the UK had they spoken at that EDL rally. They are two of our finest and most courageous advocates and the government inadvertently did them and us a huge favour by preventing them from coming.
Wellington says
Interesting commentary, BPC. I did watch the “debate” the other night and as I indicated in an above comment there were those who stated that Trump should not be banned but each of one of these nonetheless felt compelled to say how loathsome, stupid, terrible, blah, blah, blah, Trump’s statement was about a mere TEMPORARY ban on Muslims coming to America. In others words, I felt I was listening either to hard core leftists, perhaps a Muzzie or two, or wussies. No real intelligence or backbone was demonstrated by anyone I heard.
I have to wonder what percentage of the British people think they have been badly misled by those from all the major parties. I hope it’s a lot because if it isn’t Britannia is in deep, deep trouble. Bad enough when most elites get things ass backwards but if the people do too then little hope remains. And what about the Queen? I am fully aware of her many constitutional limitations but she is still allowed to warn and advise and she has done neither that I know of where the monstrosity of more and more Muslims in Britain has been concerned. Might it have required her putting her office on the line? Yes, but what good is any office if you can’t put it on the line when exigent circumstances pose a mortal danger to your nation? I used to admire her. I no longer do.
Bonnie Prince Charlie says
I hate to say it but Mr Trump’s statement was ill-conceived. I understand and fully support the sentiment behind what he said but he expressed this badly – to the point where he left himself open to ridicule and condemnation by those who heard his words but who have yet to come to terms with the reality of the situation which motivated him. There are still far too many well-intentioned bleeding heart liberals in the UK – including those who are right of centre – who lack the ability to fully understand and, in some cases, the courage to stand against public sentiment. There is a natural tendency in the UK and the USA – and long may it continue – to provide a safe haven for refugees, for ‘the people’ to welcome them with open arms without regard for the consequences; hence the moral outrage. And the media who continue to present these economic migrants as refugees and who make excuses for their behavior ‘because they have a different culture’ are largely to blame.
Mr Trump would have been above popular criticism had he simply called for all those not properly vetted to be banned from entering the USA, but to simply call for a ban on Muslims is foolish, divisive (especially in the eyes of those who want to divide) and impossible to implement. How are the border guards meant to know who is a Muslim? How are they meant to differentiate between a Muslim and a Christian Arab? Has it occurred to you – and to Mr Trump – that people might try to circumvent such a ban by claiming to belong to another faith or , indeed, no faith? Does your passport show your religion? Mr Trump is a wonderful spokesman for middle America and has raised issues which American politicians have been loathe to talk about but he sometimes allows his enthusiasm and desire to offer a solution to a problem to mask the logic of what he is saying; and this was one of those occasions.
With regard to your comments about the Queen, these are just silly. No-one knows what her views are on the situation because her constitutional position requires her to offer her opinions solely to the Prime Minister and members of the Privy Council. For all you or I know, she may have expressed her views to the Prime Minister and asked him to take them on board. That’s they way our system works. So for you to suggest that she should speak out publicly – and thus be forced to abdicate – is sheer nonsense. Of course we could always replace the monarchy with a republican system and land up electing someone like Obama as our head of state. Would you prefer that?
Wellington says
First to the matter of the Queen. I seem to remember she very publicly made her views known about how to handle the apartheid regime in South Africa and which differed from official British policy articulated by the Prime Minister at that time, Margaret Thatcher. I am also under the impression that the kind of restrictions the British monarch is under parallel those of the Danish constitutional monarchy and yet this didn’t stop the Danish Queen several months ago from bravely speaking very publicly about the need for all those who immigrate to Denmark to accept Danish values, code of course for Muslims not doing so and continuing to behave badly. We’re talking here about the entire future of Britain and the foolish governmental policy of hauling in loads of Muslims year after year. If a constitutional monarch can’t ever speak up publicly about an exigent circumstance that confronts the entire nation, then perhaps it is time to abolish the monarchy. As for your snide remark about a republican system producing an Obama, yes, he is wretched and this is the chance you take with a republican system but if the monarch has very little power, as is the case in Britain, and virtually all power, executively speaking, lies with the Prime Minister, then, in effect, one could produce a dope of a PM pretty much as easily as a republican system can produce a foolish President, so what’s the real difference here? For the record, a lot of Americans, certainly many of those who post regularly at Jihad Watch, entertain a very low opinion of Blair, Brown and Cameron because of their foolish immigration policy while Prime Minister and their risible defense of Islam time and time again.
As for the way Trump stated things, considering that I would favor a total ban on any more Muslims coming to America since Islam, as Bertrand Russell noted almost a century ago, is the only major religion that is totalitarian in structure and ideology, I think his call for a temporary ban was a very sensible first step, though I am pretty sure he doesn’t “get” Islam completely, though perhaps he is in the process of doing so, contra so many other American and British politicians. I would prefer, and think it imperative, that straight talk about Islam and its numerous troubling doctrines such as death for apostasy and death or severe bodily harm for any criticism of Islam, the Koran or Mohammed be presently occurring, but it is not. Politically correct politicians abound in the West, unlike, say, someone like the Czech President who just this past week very openly stated that Muslims don’t assimilate and that’s why the Czech Republic doesn’t want to take in any Muslims. ‘Bout time for straight talk about Islam once and for all. Ignoring this elephant in the room may be what will get a person elected but the deleterious consequences of this stupidity and cowardice far exceed any temporary political victory for those with political ambitions.
DP111 says
Bonnie Prince Charlie says
January 21, 2016 at 3:47 pm
Excellent commentary.
Myxlplik says
Ha! While we all scratch our heads at what Donald actually thinks about Islam, this British politician, leaves now grey areas…
Hats of to the sons and daughters of Britannia
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2016/01/21/the-ukip-trump-gerard-batten-mep-calls-for-end-to-muslim-mass-immigration-to-britain/
Wow…