Obviously being on the terrorism watch list doesn’t mean that authorities actually, you know, watch you.
“Prosecutor: Seattle man charged with killing 4 was on terrorism watch list,” by Ben Finley, Associated Press, January 20, 2016 (thanks to Pamela Geller):
NEWARK, N.J. — A Seattle man charged with killing four people in Washington and New Jersey in 2014 to protest U.S. foreign policy was on a federal terrorism watch list and wrote in his journal that he planned to follow the Islamic State group and “learn the ways of jihadis,” a New Jersey state prosecutor said Wednesday.
The details came out before Ali Muhammad Brown was sentenced to 36½ years in prison on an unrelated armed-robbery case.
The armed robbery occurred during the same time period as four killings now linked to Brown, three in Washington and one in New Jersey. Brown is still awaiting trial in all four slayings. He also faces a charge of terrorism, the first and only time New Jersey’s state terrorism statute has been used.
Before Brown was sentenced for the armed robbery Wednesday, assistant prosecutor Jamel Sempter revealed the contents of Brown’s journal to an Essex County judge. The prosecutor also said Brown was on a federal watch list, although he did not elaborate.
Dave Joly, a spokesman for the FBI’s Terrorist Screening Center, said the agency does not publicly confirm or deny whether an individual is included on its terror screening or no-fly lists. Brown, who has refused to participate in most of the court hearings, was flanked in court by 10 sheriff’s office deputies. He said little, refused to sign any papers and once pulled an ear plug out of his ear to better hear a judge’s question.
Brown also attended a status hearing on the murder and terrorism charges in New Jersey. His lawyer, Albert Kapin, told the judge that he still wants to get some more evidence and plans to file some motions in the terrorism case. But Kapin would not say if he would seek to have the charges dismissed.
The New Jersey slaying victim, Brendan Tevlin, was shot at a West Orange traffic light on June 25, 2014. The 19-year-old University of Richmond student was driving to his home to Livingston, N.J.
Brown also faces three aggravated murder charges in Washington: the April 27, 2014, shooting of 30-year-old Leroy Henderson in Skyway, and the June 1, 2014, shooting deaths of two young men outside a Seattle gay nightclub, Ahmed Said and Dwone Anderson-Young.
Authorities in Seattle have said that Brown described himself to detectives as a strict Muslim who was angry with the U.S. government’s role in Iraq, Iran and Afghanistan because of the deaths of innocent civilians and children….

Don McKellar says
“…shooting deaths of two young men outside a Seattle gay nightclub…”
Gee wilikers, I wonder if the gay rights advocates will take note of this? Hey, ANDERSON COOPER, what’s your take on all this gay killing by moslems? ANDERSON COOPER, what’s your interpretation of the hadith verse: Abu Dawud (4462) – The Messenger of Allah (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) said, “Whoever you find doing the action of the people of Lott, execute the one who does it and the one to whom it is done.”? Hmmm? We’d all like to know.
Saleem Smith says
Anderson Cooper and other gay mainstream media talking heads will never criticize Islamic theology (or law) for its deadly religious doctrines pertaining to the treatment of gay folks. Such talk would be career suicide and considered “highly racist and bigoted” in these politically correct times!
The “Strict Muslim” mentioned in the article above was merely a devout Muslim following ALL OF ISLAM AND NOT JUST SOME OF IT. “Moderate Muslims”, or non-practicing Muslims, are believed to be heretics or apostates and put to death in Muslim majority countries adhering to the Sharia.
We ex-Muslims living with Islam’s formal and informal death penalty for apostasy know that Mohammedanism is a complete fraud that ought to be abandoned entirely.
Islam is no “religion of peace.” Islam is primarily a religion of “injustice, intolerance, hatred, and violence.” The fact is, if we non-Muslims were to say about Muslims what the Qur’an says about us, we would be arrested for hate speech. The Qur’an largely preaches discrimination, death, and imposition of its dogma on everyone. Certainly some Muslims will be offended by such statements, but frankly, so what? Judaism and Christianity, the world’s two other major monotheistic religions, have had to face the harshest of scrutiny and criticism for several hundred years which continues to this day. Islam must not be granted any special privileges or be exempt from such treatment – the implications are of tremendous importance.
Here is a recent statement from a group of Bangladeshi apostates living in the UK explaining the reasons why they have abandoned Islam:
“One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life. He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad’s life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children. He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives (Qur’an 33:50). He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way…
The statement continues,
Muhammad was a narcissist, like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified.”
http://www.faithfreedom.org/
Shane says
Why don’t people comment about the fact that so many violent Black man convert to the Religion of Peace? Could it be that Islam gives them the blessing to kill and rape all the White infidels that they hate so much? Could it be that they hate America so they ally with Islam, the enemy of the West? These are questions that we should be asking of our politicians and race-baiting activists.
Melinda says
Very well said, Saleem Smith.
Angemon says
Don McKellar posted:
“Gee wilikers, I wonder if the gay rights advocates will take note of this?”
They won’t for a very simple reason: if they admit that other cultures are, in fact, apologetically homophobic, they stop having anything to stand on for criticizing the West’s alleged “homophobia”. The next time a Christian caterer refuses to serve an homosexual wedding and “gay rights activists” mobilize their useful idiot thugs to drive it out of business, the general public wouldn’t go “damn those homophobic Christians”, they’d go “going after a nickel-and-dime company for not selling you food when there’s a whole religion out here that whose adherents are tossing gays from buildings? Isn’t that petty, to say the least?”. Same for “feminists”. “Cat-calling is patriarchy and rape culture!!!”. Huh, no – if you want to know what a rape culture is like, look at any given muslim-majority country.
abad says
Kick them all out of the country.
Kepha says
SOrry, abad, but by US law, a guy like Ali Muhammad Brown, born, raised, and converted to Islam in these here United States, is a US citizen whom no “birther” theory can touch.
My own feeling is that he desrves a good length of good old American rope or a few good old American bullets to the head rather than being supported for decades on the American taxpayer’s dime–even if I also have no use for the LGBT “community”.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
The nice thing about willful ignorance can be seen here. Given that there is no causal connection between Islam and Jihad mass murder, the guy is automatically labeled a Lone Wolf, or sometimes like in this case a Known Wolf. But in reality they all are Shown Wolves, they read the Holy Ko-Ran, understood it’s clear and repetitive statements, and acted on its commands.
Michael Copeland says
All running in the same ideological killer pack.
Karen says
He murdered 4 people because he was mad about foreign policy. Muslims who use this excuse never face the gross injustice of what they do when extracting revenge for Allah. The illogic of it is disturbing. And of course the ME has been ensnared in the culture of revenge for centuries. Revenge mentality is to be feared and rejected as one of the greatest evils on the planet. Instead of throwing their lives away in some unjust and futile gesture, why not embrace the tools of our democratic society and work for change? Instead this man will disappear into the penal system, never to be seen again.
somehistory says
How many on the government’s numerous lists and being *watched* are actually watched and how many are just names to ignore until they commit the murders and terrorism that meet their goals?
Make the lists and bring them in to take close up and personal photos of their eyes. Then, really watch them and maybe discern their motives and plans before they kill innocent people for their nefarious code.
Conspiracy is a crime. If they are planning, conspiring to commit other crimes, they can be charged with conspiracy. There are really no *lone wolves* in this islam business of killing, rape and terror. The only *lone* thing about it is the fact that *lone* terrorists are caught…one at a time…after they kill and maim.
j_not_a says
Government fbi “watch list” lol! The government sits back and “watches” these maniacs kill and kill again. Must not, cannot assume these nutter muzlums on the “watch” list will actually act on their crazed “extremist” beliefs. No, no no that would be “islamophobic” and we certainly cannot have that! “Islamophobia” is WORSE than the death of innocent people! smh x 100
David says
Is this what life in the 21st Century is going to be? Evil, Satan Worshiping idiots allowed simlpy to run amok? And terrorize the ENTIRE CIVILIZED WORLD? I’m in my 60’s and I refuse to accept such a fate for all the Grandchildren of the world!
We need NEW LEADERSHIP! And we need it NOW!
grace says
David, I am in my 60s too, and I am fighting for all of our grandchildren and even all th children of the world. Nobody, not even moslems should be living under this disgusting theology.
billybob says
Very well put!
mortimer says
Security training at the national level was placed in the hands of the Muslim Brotherhood by Obama. This guaranteed that none would learn Islam’s jihad doctrine, taqiyya doctrine, supremacist doctrine, Kafir doctrine or abrogation doctrine…all KEY DOCTRINES needed for a well-informed agent to correctly SNIFF OUT, IDENTIFY and ASCERTAIN that a Muslim is a jihadist.
Because Obama betrayed the American people by taking the side of America’s enemies, US elites are studiously UNPREPARED to recognize the magnitude of the JIHAD THREAT.
America’s elites HAVE NO EXCUSE FOR NOT KNOWING THE JIHAD DOCTRINE AND TAQIYYA DOCTRINE BY NOW!
IN DEPTH information about them is FREELY AVAILABLE on the internet. America’s elites are criminally negligent in not learning about jihad.
billybob says
We need a petition on Change.org that is very cleverly worded to draw attention. I don’t have a suggestion at the moment. Not only perfect wording, but it also needs perfect timing with some event. Our opportunity is coming.
gravenimage says
Seattle: “Strict Muslim” who killed 4 was on terrorism watch list
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At this point, how many homicidal Jihadists have turned out to have been on “terrorism watch lists” or “known to the authorities”, both here and in the rest of the West? It doesn’t make a damn bit of difference if authorities aren’t actually doing anything about it.
grace says
He should have also been on the butt ugly list.
Hope says
Yes. Ugly is ugly. But these people are circus ugly.
j_not_a says
So ugly he scared the crap out of the toilet. All these braindead alla zombies are that ugly. It’s like a must have on the recruitment checklist.
gravenimage says
It’s their expressions.
Islam gives even the most otherwise attractive person dead shark eyes and a scowl. Never a good look.
This is why Muslim apostates almost always seem to be better looking.
Stephen Lee says
Hatred is the real word for all these terrorists brainwashed.
All followers of Mohamed are taught to hate all mankind or the world. He himself was told to hate others.
Allah never preached n showed love to the whole world. Bcos it was never learnt to love n practice love others.
Mark says
Pease view share and give a thumbs up to the following documentary. https://youtu.be/t_Qpy0mXg8Y. It really exposes the trechery of Islam. The west needs to have more children. In the west raising children has become an expensive and time consuming hobby. Children used to add to the familys income.
Michael A Collins says
Obama voter
Noor says
As I said in my article about him on Jihad Watch, I knew him and he is very devout. The charges against him are no surprise.
Lily Darcey says
Why does the gay world persist in marching for the rights of moslems?
j_not_a says
The gays are too wilfully blind to recognize that the only (purported) thing they have in common with muslims is that they are “persecuted minorities” and that is where the similarity ends. The gays are too lazy and smug to dig deeper into what the beliefs and aims are of these wolves whom they support and that they would be the first to throw them (literally) under the bus or off a building because of who and what they are.
j_not_a says
@dusty fae when I said what gays and muslims had in common I meant as in a reply to Lily Darcey as in a social standing in general in the western world at large.
Dave J says
Multiple murders and armed robbery and we are going to pay for his lifetime imprisonment? The death penalty is the appropriate punishment for animals like him, same way we would put down an aggressive and insane dog.
Matthieu Baudin says
“…Obviously being on the terrorism watch list doesn’t mean that authorities actually, you know, watch you…”
Relax – he was being monitored!
Screeminmeeme says
On a watch list?
Guess Obama’s DHS wasn’t watching the bastard close enough….and 4 Americans are dead because of it.
Buck stops with Obama.
Greytigertx says
Our government has, at all levels, failed and abandoned the American people. The district is filled with arrogant self serving parasites. I cannot describe the disgust and revulsion I have for everything and everyone in DC. Why Americans continue to enable and support this garbage pit is beyond me. Furthermore, whyis the giant turd called Obama still there? Somebody flush the damn toilet.