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UK Parliament will debate barring Trump from country

Jan 5, 2016 5:16 pm By Robert Spencer

Why not ban Trump? After all, I was banned from entering Britain for saying that Islam “is a religion and is a belief system that mandates warfare against unbelievers for the purpose for establishing a societal model that is absolutely incompatible with Western society.” If I can get banned for that manifestly true observation, then Trump can certainly be banned for calling for a temporary moratorium on Muslim immigration in view of jihad terror. One thing British authorities are sure of: it is wrong, wrong, wrong to want to take any action against jihad terror.

“If the United Kingdom is to continue applying the ‘unacceptable behaviour’ criteria to those who wish to enter its borders, it must be fairly applied to the rich as well as poor, and the weak as well as powerful.” That’s a lot of hooey. The “unacceptable behavior” criteria is already applied unfairly. Just days before Pamela Geller and I were banned, the British government admitted Saudi Sheikh Mohammed al-Arefe. Al-Arefe has said: “Devotion to jihad for the sake of Allah, and the desire to shed blood, to smash skulls, and to sever limbs for the sake of Allah and in defense of His religion, is, undoubtedly, an honor for the believer. Allah said that if a man fights the infidels, the infidels will be unable to prepare to fight.”

That was acceptable in Britain. My work, which has consistently denounced violence and been in defense of the equality of rights of all before the law, was not. That’s a fair application of the “unacceptable behaviors” criteria?

Donald Trump

“UK Parliament Will Debate Barring Trump from Country,” by Carrie Dann, NBC News, January 5, 2016

The British parliament will formally debate a petition later this month from backers wishing to prevent Donald Trump from entering the United Kingdom.

The debate is set for January 18, according to a government announcement Tuesday. The petition, launched after Trump announced his proposal to bar Muslims from entering the United States, has garnered over 568,000 signatures to date.

Online petitions like the one targeting Trump are automatically considered for debate by a Petitions Committee if they garner more than 100,000 signatures.

The petition reads: “The signatories believe Donald J Trump should be banned from UK entry. The UK has banned entry to many individuals for hate speech. The same principles should apply to everyone who wishes to enter the UK. If the United Kingdom is to continue applying the ‘unacceptable behaviour’ criteria to those who wish to enter its borders, it must be fairly applied to the rich as well as poor, and the weak as well as powerful.”…

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  1. Don McKellar says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 5:21 pm

    When one thinks of all the Saudi trash who own so much property and have built so many terrorist training mosques all over the UK — all of them spewing their hate-filled Koran and hadith commands to kill and fight and rape and discriminate — and here’s the UK government about to debate whether to ban an American who’s exercising his freedom of speech (and speaking to truth about a legitimate issue, no less), one realizes how doomed the UK is.

    • Bamaguje says

      Jan 6, 2016 at 4:40 am

      When Trump becomes president, he can also ban Islam appeasing Brits from U.S.

      • David Scoltock says

        Jan 7, 2016 at 2:31 am

        I’m not sure we will care. America is nothing special, been there and I was not impressed.

        Compare America to Europe and America fails badly. I don’t worry about my daughter getting shot in school for instance.

        What Robert Spencer doesn’t tell you is he was banned because he was going to speak at an EDF rally. The EDF are the British version of the KKK. Sure they have an anti-Muslim stance right now but they also have an anti-black, anti-gay and anti-Jewish policy that is ignored by the likes of Spencer.

        Also we have a system in which the British people can petition a DEBATE in parliment, it does not guarantee action. We are a democracy, America should give it a try some time.

        • Sergio says

          Jan 7, 2016 at 11:45 am

          Yeah, right… Now go pay your jyzia, dhimmi.
          Don’t worry about your family being shot, because islam “religion of pieces” style is more likely to rip off their heads/stoning/rape/slavery.
          RIP, Europe.

        • gavinwca says

          Jan 8, 2016 at 6:14 pm

          I rather my daughter be shot in school than raped and sodimized by a thousand Muslams.

    • Matthieu Baudin says

      Jan 6, 2016 at 11:19 pm

      Yes Don it’s staggering. You could add to that all the Russian Mafia residents and the money of theirs that has been so gratefully received by the British Government and then wonder why their doesn’t seem to be a voice from within the Parliament that is defending Mr Trumps quite reasonable recourse to plain speak particularly in an election race.

  2. peter charles says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 5:23 pm

    Thank God that PM Churchill is not alive to e how low his nation has sunk.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Jan 5, 2016 at 11:23 pm

      The spirit of Churchill, of Alfred, of Arthur, of Coeur de Lion, of Robert the Bruce, and the mighty patrons, George and Andrew and David, are already abroad in the Island of the Mighty; they are standing with Gavin Boby and al those others who are challenging (and every so often *defeating*) the mosque-builders in the local council chambers; they were standing with the EDL when a bunch of would-be jihadis got the time wrong and turned up late to a demo and so were unable to set off a bomb; they were with Tommy Robinson in prison and they were with Paul Weston when he quoted Churchill and got arrested…and now as he puts together his Liberty Great Britain party.

      Churchill, and others, form the cloud of witnesses that surrounds those who are putting up a fight at every level, from the battle of wits waged against ignorance and useful idiocy and Dhimmitude and treachery in the social media and newspaper comments sections and letters to the Editor and letters to politicians, to the battle in local government, and those few brave law enforcement and members of the judiciary who *are* prepared to confront and arrest and try and *punish* mohammedan rapists, fraudsters, jihadwatchers, and those prepared to rally and march in the streets, and those who have formed political parties – UKIP, Liberty Great Britain – to carry the fight to Parliament.

      Churchill is alive in our own jihadwatchers such as Logdon and Mirren10 and the redoubtable Esmerelda Weatherwax over at the New England Review, and the young Englishman whose blog “Defend the Modern World” is working hard to raise awareness. i think I saw his shadow giving a thumbs-up in the public gallery when Malcolm Lord Pearson Earl of Rannoch asked some *very* awkward Questions about Islam – about Islamic doctrine, the contents of Islamic texts – in the House of Peers. Pearson got a mass of nonsense and hostility in response; but nevertheless, **he asked his Question**, and maybe something stuck like a burr in the minds of those of the noble Peers who did *not* instantly rush to Defend Islam. Pearson, next time around, should try quoting Churchillian passages on Islam, and watch the Muslims’ and Dhimmis’ brains explode. Parliamentary privilege…

      In terms of Islamorealism, Churchill and, before him, William Gladstone (Gladstone who fearlessly and at length denounced the Turkish Muslim atrocities perpetrated against defenceless Bulgarian Christians; one can only imagine what thundering diatribes Gladstone would, if alive today, unloose against the House of Saud, and against Islamic State), were giants; today’s Islamoresistant British politicians – Paul Weston, and Lord Pearson, and there *are* others – must tell themselves that they *are* standing on the shoulders of those giants, and refuse to be intimidated into silence.

      • Bram Poker says

        Jan 5, 2016 at 11:59 pm

        Couldn’t have summed it up better how we no longer breed great or for that matter even less than talented politicians. I suspect Nigel is our last chance before we sink into the mire.

        • jayell says

          Jan 6, 2016 at 4:46 pm

          “Couldn’t have summed it up better how we no longer breed great or for that matter even less than talented politicians.”

          No, we DO still breed them, but we now we stamp on them, stifle them, pillory them, insult them, persecute them, even when they’re telling us about how things really are and the reality they’re describing is staring us in the face. That’s the ‘royal we’, not me.

      • Edwin1683 says

        Jan 6, 2016 at 2:00 am

        dumbledoresarmy, your post is very moving. Thank you for the reminder that all is not lost as long as there are still brave patriots on English soil and that Churchill’s spirit watches over them.

      • Mirren10 says

        Jan 6, 2016 at 10:53 am

        An absolutely *inspiring* post, dda. Puts the kibosh on all the doom sayers out there. Thank you.

        And thanks for the mention !

  3. pdxnag says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 5:26 pm

    Would they ban Ayaan Hirsi Ali too for becoming an Apostate and publicly stating her reasons.

  4. miriamrove says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 5:29 pm

    Good. Let them ban Trump. After all Britain is loaded with Muslims. Who the heel wants to go there anyways. It is like Pakistan to say the least. M

    • Budvarakbar says

      Jan 6, 2016 at 7:44 am

      Read about 3-4 weeks ago – someone from Eastern Europe (Hungary, I believe) having just come back from a trip to London said he had been in London for 5 days before he met an Englishman!

      • Lioness says

        Jan 6, 2016 at 12:08 pm

        Yes, a friend of mine who now lives in Canada, came from Birmingham and said that it looked more like Mecca. A mosque on every corner and muslims in their garb as far as the eye can see. Most Brits flee if they can.

  5. Ex-muslim says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 5:32 pm

    islamic jihadist killers and the UK Parliament are one and the same thing.
    The UK Parliament is more annoying to me than the islamic jihadist killers.

  6. Robin Russell says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 5:40 pm

    Trump has spent a lot of money in Scotland and had already made himself some enemies among the ordinary citizens he walked over in investing that money. The Scottish National Party which is heavily influenced by Islam, doesn’t like him although was prepared to use him but has now dismissed him as Business Ambassador of Scotland due to the Muslim votes it gets.
    There have obviously been enough votes for the debate and I think I know which minority most will have come from.
    Islam is alive and well in the whole of the UK and not just Scotland. I can almost guarantee that the SNP Members of Parliament will cut off their nose to spite their face financially for he wont invest any more if he is not allowed in the country.

  7. The Truth says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 5:48 pm

    I say ban him, once he’s President, we’ll cut off ties from Britain and when the next Adolf—er Muhammed arises, then they can handle it themselves.

  8. gravenimage says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 5:58 pm

    UK Parliament will debate barring Trump from country
    ………………..

    And yet Britain is still welcoming bloodthirsty Jihadists. Madness.

  9. tpalya says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 5:59 pm

    Perhaps we should ban all the foreign aid, money and military?

  10. Wellington says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 6:14 pm

    Just one more piece of evidence that Britain is in both dumb-down mode and craven mode. So sad that such a great civilization, as British civilization surely has been, is now in the process of suicidally destroying itself due to 1) continued willful ignorance of Islam; 2) political correctness towards the spiritual fascism which is Islam; 3) gooey multiculturalism (excuse the redundancy); and 4) just about the worst excuse for political leadership over the past twenty years or so in the entire history of Britain.

    Oh yes, the Age of Nonsense marches on. In modern day Britain this Age is proceeding at an accelerated pace. So sad. So useless. So destructive. So stupid. Meanwhile, the Islamic world and that greatest aggregate moron of our times, the modern Left, are salivating at the prospect of a Britain completely transformed from what it used to be. Of course they would.

    • Mark DeFord Eletion says

      Jan 5, 2016 at 7:38 pm

      If the result of the vote is to ban Trump from GB, and he goes on to win the US presidency, and GB falls to the Islamic Empire (which seems guaranteed), then that vote may eventually be seen as the most important one ever taken in modern GB.

  11. William says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 6:16 pm

    Britain is becoming a laughing stock and a crying shame, all at the same time.

  12. Michael Copeland says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 6:25 pm

    So the infants want Nanny to “ban” nasty man. This is what years of Socialism have done.

    Excluding foreign members of a hostile system is a legitimate and responsible act, amply authorised by the Constitution. The exclusion suggested by Trump is temporary, “Until we can figure out what the hell is going on”.

    Islam, the “ideological political movement” (Anjem Choudary), is in a permanent state of war with non-Muslims until all the governance is Islam (Koran 8:39). “Jihad means to war against non-Muslims”, and is a “communal obligation” (Manual of Islamic Law, “Reliance of the Traveller” o9.0, o9.1). “We are at war”, they tell us.
    Here is a tip: “They are doing exactly what this book says” (Allen West).
    http://libertygb.org.uk/v1/index.php/news-libertygb/6716-we-are-at-war

  13. John Johness says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 6:33 pm

    Well that’s half a million names of people who may just change their minds once they or their friends or family members are attacked, bombed, shot or raped by the Islamic migrants – or they bother to find out about Islam.
    It is a valuable data base of stupidity and ignorance of Islam. (I wonder how many Muslims signed it?)
    There is a business opportunity there. Offer them a course in basic Islam.
    Give it a month. The German extreme right will attack the migrants and ISIS will mount a distributed attack across Europe. IS need to after Ramadi. They have lost God’s favor and must show it was a test, not a defeat.

    • Infidela says

      Jan 5, 2016 at 10:11 pm

      If they were attacked bombed shot or raped by Islamic migrants, they would probably blame themselves for the fact that the west invaded muslim lands.

      If any religion is telfon coated it’s Islam.

  14. Judi says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 6:41 pm

    Most of the signatories were Muslims and left-wingers. There is a counter-petition that has garnered almost 40,000 votes.

    • Aardvark says

      Jan 6, 2016 at 5:10 am

      Can you give a link to this counter-petition please, Judi? I, for one, want to add my signature!

      • Mirren10 says

        Jan 6, 2016 at 11:09 am

        Here you go, Aardvark.

        https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114907

        *Almost* 40,000 signatures, which shows how disgracefully apathetic and *stupid* the majority of my countrymen are.

        • jayell says

          Jan 6, 2016 at 5:45 pm

          Well, it’s over 40,500 now, and I’ve added my signature. It’s a shame that what was intended as basically a good idea for democracy has been hijacked and corrupted by an uninvited, unrepresentative and totally alien group within the UK for their own self-serving and supremacist anti-democratic purposes. If it was an isolated incident it would be bad enough, but this is just the latest chapter in a long, sorry ongoing tale of exploitative corruption by this certain group (guess who!) who have been systematically twisting our time-honoured democratic processes and institutions for their own ends, and have made it abudantly clear that they have neither the innate abilty nor the intention to do otherwise.

          The government’s response to the pro-Trump petition is depressing, since it shows how far the establishment has been influenced by the pro-islamic lobby. Here it is in full:-

          “The Home Secretary may exclude a non-European Economic Area national from the UK if she considers their presence in the UK to be non-conducive to the public good.

          The Home Secretary has said that coming to the UK is a privilege and not a right and she will continue to use the powers available to prevent from entering the UK those who seek to harm our society and who do not share our basic values.

          Exclusion powers are very serious and are not used lightly. The Home Secretary will use these powers when justified and based on all available evidence.

          The Prime Minister has made clear that he completely disagrees with Donald Trump’s remarks. The Home Secretary has said that Donald Trump’s remarks in relation to Muslims are divisive, unhelpful and wrong.

          The Government recognises the strength of feeling against the remarks and will continue to speak out against comments which have the potential to divide our communities, regardless of who makes them. We reject any attempts to create division and marginalisation amongst those we endeavour to protect.”

          So Mr. Trump is going to ‘harm our society’, whilst of course that certain 4% element in the UK population – which has already committed murderous atrocities and has been thwarted at great expense in its intentions to commit more, has corrupted our democratic and educational institutions and been responsible for defiling thousands of our girls – is not? And this same ‘element’ has not already ‘created divisions’ and marginalised itself with its very visible failure to conform to the basic standards of the society off which it equally visibly leeches? And, in the light of this, it still deserves ‘protection’ whilst the forces of law and order in the UK have demonstrated that its own people apparently do not?

          I hope that the American people vote Mr. Trump in as their next President. Then see what happens.

  15. dragaozao says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 6:46 pm

    If Trump wins the election for President, it would be funny to see UK banning the American President. West is becoming increasingly crazy…

  16. Isabella says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 6:46 pm

    UK is lost. Poor Churchill: he must turn in his grave!! Unreal!

  17. Nick Heatley says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 7:11 pm

    The exclusion of Robert Spencer and Pamela Geller from the UK makes me ashamed of my country. Luckily more and more of the English are waking up to the truth so all is not lost.

    • Budvarakbar says

      Jan 6, 2016 at 7:59 am

      They banned Michael Savage years ago!

  18. Martin says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 7:24 pm

    I signed a petition to parliament just before this one requesting the UK Government stop immigration until the terrorist attacks were ended. It had almost half a million signatures at the last count. The reply I got was below…where was the parliamentary debate there?
    Government responded:

    We are building an immigration system that works in the public interest. We welcome the brightest and the best who come here legally to work and study, but believe net migration should be lower(contd)

    and are clamping down on illegal migration, including through the Immigration Bill. We will also introduce a new approach to asylum – with strict new rules for people who abuse the system, and greater generosity for people who need our help.

    The UK has a proud history of protecting those most in need. As the Prime Minister announced to Parliament at the beginning of last month, the UK will accept a further 20,000 migrants dislocated from their homes following the Syrian crisis. The UK can be proud that since the start of that conflict we have been at the forefront of the humanitarian response. We are providing more than £1 billion in aid – making us the second biggest bilateral donor in the world. Our contribution is almost as much as the rest of the EU put together. We can be proud of our contribution and our history of valuing diversity in the UK.

    Uncontrolled immigration, however, places pressure on public services, the labour market and wages.

    To control legal migration we have changed the profile of migrants coming here to work and study from outside the EU, to ensure that we are genuinely welcoming the brightest and the best. The figures show this strategy is working, with a 17% increase in the number of sponsored student visas applications for universities since 2010, and a rise of 33% for the elite Russell Group universities. We have toughened access to welfare and housing and non-EU immigration remains 10% lower than in September 2010. Going forward, our long term economic plan will see many more young Britons given the training and skills they need to fill the jobs our booming economy is creating.

    In terms of illegal migration one of the most visible pressure points has been at Calais. Over the summer the migrant population in this area increased to around 5,000 and there was an associated increase in the number of illegal attempts to breach the border.

    The Government has made good progress with the French Government to address this situation. The declaration the Home Secretary signed with the French Interior Minister, on 20th August, cements a comprehensive programme of work between France and the UK including additional French police, and extra fencing, search dogs and other security measures provided by the UK.

    The Government is also taking action through a new Immigration Bill that was introduced to Parliament on 17th September.

    The Government is introducing new powers to build an immigration system that works in the best interests of the UK and those who play by the rules. Illegal workers will face having their earnings seized, while rogue employers could have their businesses closed.

    The Bill will make it harder for people to settle in the UK when they have no right to do so, building on the Immigration Act 2014 to further restrict access to services for illegal migrants. Landlords will be able to evict illegal migrants more quickly and access to driving licences and bank accounts will be further protected as services for only the lawfully resident population.

    The Bill will close existing loopholes that allow certain illegal migrants to claim asylum support even though they do not have a pending asylum application or appeal. We will continue to meet all of our international obligations towards asylum seekers and refugees, but equally we expect other illegal migrants to depart from the UK rather than providing access to support.

    The Bill will make it easier to remove people who should not be in the UK by introducing new powers to tag foreign national offenders released on bail, and extending “deport now, appeal later” certification powers to more immigration cases. We will also be equipping immigration officers with additional search and seizure powers to better enforce our immigration laws.

    Finally, as the Home Secretary set out earlier this month, we will introduce a new approach to asylum with strict new rules for people who abuse the system in Britain, and greater generosity for people in parts of the world where we know they need our help. For example, we will take a tougher approach to those who claim asylum after abusing the visa system or having travelled to get here through safe countries but we will establish a register of people and organisations that can provide houses for the settlement of genuine refugees.

    Home Office

    Click this link to view the response online:

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/106477?reveal_response=yes

    • Jaladhi says

      Jan 5, 2016 at 7:50 pm

      Asinine gobbledygook – you get lost while reading it, well that’s the intent so that nobody can figure out what they will do!

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Jan 5, 2016 at 11:35 pm

      Just repeat the request to STOP Muslim immigration. Be blunt: state that you are opposed to MUSLIM immigration, specifically, because of the manifest harm it has already done at every level. Ask if they are prepared to deny that having lots of Muslims in the UK, many of whom – and more and more – are busily plotting mass-murderous Jihad attacks – is an enormous (and ever-increasingly burdensome) security headache. Mention the thousands of non-Muslim British girl victims of the numerous Muslim rape-and-pimping gangs; mention Rotherham. State that you don’t want any more Rotherhams, and the way not to have more Rotherhams is to 1/ not import any more Muslims and 2/ find ways of moving out the Muslims already present.

      State that if they want feel-good factor then ALL currently-available refugee/ asylum places should be given ONLY to the mortally-endangered Syrian and Iraqi Christians (as per the request made by the Barnabas Fund with their “Operation Safe Havens”).

      If they give you *more* gobbledegook, just send them the same letter, demanding an end to ALL Muslim entry, and demanding that Christians – threatened with **genocide** by Muslims – should be the only refugees/ asylum seekers admitted (after being vetted by truly knowledgeable folks such as Barnabas Fund).

    • Richard Hallin says

      Jan 6, 2016 at 3:49 am

      IN OTHER WORDS WE ARE FUCKING OUR OWN PEOPLE, AND WAY OF LIFE TO ACCOMMODATE ILLEGAL MOSLEM IMMIGRATION.

    • Mirren10 says

      Jan 6, 2016 at 11:14 am

      Yep. Absolutely **disgraceful**.

      I wrote to camoron and my MP, demanding to know *why* this petition has not been debated, despite garnering more than 100,000 signatures, but Parliament is poised to debate on banning Donald Trump.

      Answer came there none, of course.

  19. Jaladhi says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 7:44 pm

    Let them ban Trump from entering UK — what will they do when he is elected President – probably they will come groveling back to him for a visit!!

  20. Western Canadian says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 7:48 pm

    And who else would be banned from entering the formerly (and hopefully again) Great Britain??
    Somehow, the name Churchill springs to mind (not that Trump compares to him).

    • mortimer says

      Jan 6, 2016 at 1:09 am

      In Canada, Trudeau should have been ‘banned’ from entering parliament. He probably will be by the end of his term.

      • Edwin1683 says

        Jan 6, 2016 at 2:21 am

        Mortimer, how I wish you were right about Trudeau being banned from Parliament before the end of his term. But there’s not a hope in hell of that ever happening. It is much more likely that the Anointed One will be crowned by his adoring Canadian public with a starry halo of unicorn sparkles and carried into Parliament daily on his very own pink and purple velvet throne chair.

        • Western Canadian says

          Jan 7, 2016 at 2:37 pm

          I have an uncommon ability to visualize, and can literally create, in detail, any image that I see or hear a description of. I really wish you hadn’t offered up that one….. Really awful.

          But one thing to remember about Canadians… Yes, we are a rather easy going, polite, and generous people. And it takes a lot to get us angry enough to fight back. But when we are pushed to that point…..

          We are the nastiest people and most unforgiving fighters on the planet. And you can count on that.

        • Mike Proulx says

          Jan 7, 2016 at 2:47 pm

          Well said brother, agree with you 100%, they better not mess with us here, they’ll be shipped back in a heartbeat, regardless of what our PM thinks.

  21. Neil Jennison says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 8:16 pm

    What is most frightening, is that once free countries are banning speech and opinion.

    And that many in the population approve of it.

    How STUPID people are, if they think Nazism or totalitarianism could not happen today.

  22. Voytek Gagalka says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 8:28 pm

    If someone could put online petition (and gain more than 100000 supporters) that Mr. Cameron should drink a potion of hemlock (Socrates style), will that elevated British institution also arrange debate on that issue?

    • Western Canadian says

      Jan 5, 2016 at 11:55 pm

      Perhaps we could find out….

  23. Jeremiah says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 10:15 pm

    This will be a revealing debate. A polarizing debate. A leader has to come forward. Perhaps the military? The People think that demonstrations are enough. Europe is just dying. There is no point to having a military if we are just going to waste our resources and, at the end of the day, hand them over to Islam.

  24. No Fear says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    “London is no longer an English city” – John Cleese

    The indigenous (for some hundred of years) Brits are finished.

    But that’s OK. At least they weren’t racist and that is all that matters.

  25. Laurence says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 11:09 pm

    Presently all I can do is “imagine” what it must be like for anyone, especially and particularly for non-Muslims, who are actually living in the midst of Islamist minded adherents of Islam (I realize other arguments could easily be made as well). And what I imagine is not pretty: to so live would neither make a person feel safe nor at ease. And yet for many they may have little to no choice.

    All the while the Political leaders, law makers, and others of means and influence live far enough away and possibly in their gated communities, safe and cozy, ignoring the plight of their own people, and possibly even inflicting more injury upon them.

    Too bad there was not a way for these “elites” to have a very personal experience of living in those affected and infected areas; and that their time spent living there would be prolonged for a nerve racking length of time; and then maybe, just maybe, they would think differently and begin to care for their people and all those other things that they have been putting at risk. Alas, though I’d remain skeptical of any real or lasting change once they returned to their own homes.

    What is to be done before such madness (completely) overtakes our own land.

  26. Jay Boo says

    Jan 5, 2016 at 11:50 pm

    Off Topic
    Muslims unaccountable
    Gun Control — Obama — Muslims

    Obama implies WRONGLY that:
    — (Christians in Charleston) were targeted because they were Christian
    — (Muslims in Chapel Hill) because they were Muslim

    Why not mention Christians and Jews in San Bernardino who were killed specifically because of their religion by — MUSLIMS?

    —————————————————-

    “that right was denied to Christians in Charleston, South Carolina. (Applause.) And that was denied Jews in Kansas City. And that was denied Muslims in Chapel Hill, and Sikhs in Oak Creek. (Applause.) They had rights, too. (Applause.) “

    • Angemon says

      Jan 6, 2016 at 10:37 am

      Jay Boo posted:

      “Why not mention Christians and Jews in San Bernardino who were killed specifically because of their religion by — MUSLIMS?”

      Remember when Obama called the murder of Jews in a Jewish market in France “random killings”?

      • Mirren10 says

        Jan 6, 2016 at 11:18 am

        Yes. ‘Random killings’ of ‘some folks in a delicatessan’. obama is just downright *evil*.

  27. citycat says

    Jan 6, 2016 at 12:14 am

    “Allah said”
    Yeah, right.
    Islamic tyranny has infected the UK
    Should they not have also a petition about allowing Trump to visit, and how many of those signatures are Muslim’s.
    The voice of the ordinary infidel in the street is threatened

  28. Aron says

    Jan 6, 2016 at 1:50 am

    IAM BRANDED AN ‘ISLAMOPHOBE’…WILL YOU STILL HUG ME????
    ???

    Hey…why not?

  29. Richard Hallin says

    Jan 6, 2016 at 3:53 am

    OK 568.000 SIGNATURES, WELL THAT MEANS ALL MOSLEMS OVER THE AGE OF 5 HAVE NOW VOTED, I SUSPECT THAT MANY OF THOSE HAVE VOTED TOO, BY HAVING THEIR DETAILS FALSELY ADDED TO THE PETITION.

  30. Vae Victis says

    Jan 6, 2016 at 4:14 am

    If UK bans Trump, they will be the laughing stock of the civilised world.

    So much for British history. Where have all the great men gone.
    How ironic that such a once great nation is now so decrepit.
    Their relevance as a world power is definitely on the wane.

    Time to assume their proper place in the global village.
    Soon they will only be a pimple on the bum of Europe.

  31. Scott M says

    Jan 6, 2016 at 8:02 am

    I hope they do ban Trump. The massive uproar in support and against – the repercussions will be worth it. It will FORCE people to actually take sides in sincerity. It will FORCE many people to actually take another look at what they are supporting. Many will back the ban pitting those against at loggerheads.The war within our communities is better to have now rather than later.

    • Eric Delf says

      Jan 6, 2016 at 1:57 pm

      I agree Scott, it will further awareness and the wake up call. Sadly we need to feel the pain before we hit back.

  32. spartan says

    Jan 6, 2016 at 9:43 am

    If the petition results in a Parliamentary ban against Trump then it will be incumbent upon the UK Government to ban all political leaders in Saudi and other Muslim countries who have IMPLEMENTED the same ban on entry of refugees in the current hijrah that Trump ONLY SUGGESTED. They have gone much further in demonstrating their BIGOTRY and anti-Muslim policy – yet it won’t happen of course because UK government and business are to beholden to their Middle Eastern paymasters.

  33. dan says

    Jan 6, 2016 at 9:46 am

    I am the thinking of applying for political asylum from the UK to USA on the grounds that the government is putting my life at risk cause I agree with The Donald’s stand on muslims.Take me under your protection,Don.

  34. steve says

    Jan 6, 2016 at 10:55 am

    WTF is what I say more and more each day to the kinds of things that are happening around the world with the apologetics and laying down for Islam. Its as if some new world order is actuality happening whether people want to admit it or not in front of our eyes. It’s like some invasion of the Body Snatchers of the Minds movie with the shadow governments insidiously taking more and more action each day to deprive people of our cultures slipping away. if I had heard some of this only 10 or 15 years ago I never would have believed what we are experiencing.

  35. Debbie says

    Jan 6, 2016 at 12:13 pm

    The next POTUS should appoint Robert Spencer or Pamela Geller as ambassador to Great Britainstan.

    Somebody start a petition or something!

  36. c matt says

    Jan 6, 2016 at 12:53 pm

    Well, the native brits still have cool accents…for now. Soon they will be shrieking that horrid whine to prayer that sounds like someone torturing a cat.

  37. Just an ordinary Joe says

    Jan 6, 2016 at 2:07 pm

    The petition was rigged by mass multiple signings organised by leftie / student ‘activists’ or M …ims using multiple email addresses.

    The Daily Express ran an article on the 18th December about it. Activists organizing mass signings using social media and boasting about signing in some cases signing 50 times (or more) with different email addresses. It’s true, you CAN multiple sign the petition with a different email address (which makes the whole thing totally pointless) and if someone uses social media it can be abused very quickly.

    If you go to the petition map, it shows where the majority of the signings took place. Massive concentrations just where you’d expect if the above is true.

  38. Jack Holan says

    Jan 6, 2016 at 2:08 pm

    Hypocrites George Galloway and Corbyn meet the worst of the worst terrorists with blood on their hands. The two of these goof balls have even invited terrorists to Parliament to speak. How cute is it, slice a baby’s throat one day and the next a guest speaker in the British Parliament. Now why would they bar Presidential candidate Donald Trump? Due to speeches he has made, unique American experiences and how to address them and unlike England the desire to live and not to commit National Suicide. They can certainly bar him today but let me ask you; what if he is the President of the United States of America? Do you plan to maintain that restriction Hypocrites. When you object to the arena of ideas you bar them like Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer. However you will allow known killers in to spew their beliefs.

  39. Jeff says

    Jan 6, 2016 at 2:10 pm

    To be fair, the debate is in response to two petitions: one to keep him out (which got a lot more signatures, granted) and one to let him in. I voted for the latter.

  40. Alan S says

    Jan 6, 2016 at 5:24 pm

    I got this today: “Dear Alan Scopp,

    Parliament is going to debate the petition you signed – “Don’t ban Trump from the United Kingdom”.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/114907

    The debate is scheduled for 18 January 2016.

    Once the debate has happened, we’ll email you a video and transcript.

    Thanks,
    The Petitions team
    UK Government and Parliament”

  41. Nicole Purdy says

    Jan 6, 2016 at 7:49 pm

    I petitioned against barring Trump from the UK. I am ashamed that barring someone who is telling the truth ever becomes subject of parliamentary debate. I am ashamed of being British!! I pray Trump is elected as President

  42. UNCLE VLADDI says

    Jan 6, 2016 at 9:14 pm

    It’ll be fun to watch the EUnuchs implode once Turmp is elected and bans all aid and assistance to them and refuses to help fund, say, NATO or bail them out any more.

  43. Western Canadian says

    Jan 7, 2016 at 2:46 pm

    Think of the incredible beauty of the European Cathedrals, created during the so-called dark ages. The staggering works of art, music, uplifting philosophy, science, the knowledge won by generations of these peoples. Now think of it being torched, destroyed, debased and debauched by the lowest, least accomplished, most degenerate of all human beings. Cry for a while, and then FIGHT BACK!! There is so much beauty in the world, built on our Judaeo/Christian roots. The greatest crime against humanity, would be not just to lose all of this, but what it would be replaced by.

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