The European Catholic hierarchy appears to be identical in political ideology to Pope Francis and the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops. Is encouraging national and cultural suicide a Christian duty now? As Europe is engulfed in the flames of civil war, will any of these bishops wake up and realize what they have done? Or will they continue to demonize and ostracize those who have tried to sound a warning about the forces that are determined to destroy the patrimony of which these traitorous bishops are supposed to be the protectors and champions?
“Bishops Without Borders: European Elitism Gone Bad,” by William Kilpatrick, National Catholic Register, February 8, 2016 (thanks to Tom):
After the New Year’s Eve sexual assaults in Cologne and 17 other cities, the Catholic hierarchy in Europe is starting to get worried — about “nationalists” and “right-wingers,” that is.
Cardinal Rainer Woelki of Cologne condemned the sexual assaults outside his cathedral, but reserved most of his concern for threats from “right or brown circles.” Bishop Gregor Hanke of Eichstätt complained that German leaders who talked of re-establishing borders were adopting policies that were “right-wing and Islamophobic.” Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, the archbishop of Vienna, recently warned that, in the face of Europe’s migrant crisis, the biggest risk is the return of a “new nationalism.” The challenge of the refugees, he said, creates “the risk that everyone withdraws into their own limits” and that “the borders, barriers, walls, the Iron Curtain will return.”
So, if these bishops are right, a lot of people in Europe have misplaced fears. The real danger is not the hordes of young Muslim males rampaging through Europe, but the people who think something ought to be done about it. As most Europeans know, words like “new nationalism,” “right or brown circles,” “xenophobes” and “populists” are code words for neo-Nazis….
For the most part, the bishops lean toward the borderless, internationalist view of the world espoused by the Euro elites. With the exception of marriage and family issues, the hierarchy seem to have adopted the EU agenda as its own. Indeed, the COMECE declaration even urges European citizens to “withstand any temptations to scapegoat the European Union for domestically generated problems.”…
As they already have been doing. The number of break-ins to homes and businesses has soared dramatically since the refugees arrived in Europe. Before the assaults on New Year’s Eve, the Cologne Cathedral itself — that is to say, Cardinal Woelki’s church — was subjected to a “massive rocket and ‘banger’ fireworks barrage that lasted the whole service.” “Again and again,” said architect Barbara Shock-Warner, “the north window of the cathedral was lit up red, because rocket after rocket flew against it.”
Cardinal Woelki said he was annoyed by the noise and disruptions, but he seemed more annoyed at the “right or brown circles” who would punish “all refugees for the crimes of a few.” A few? There were 1,000 assailants and, at last count, the number of the victims was more than 800. The noise of the rocket barrage seems to have left the cardinal slightly tone-deaf. Like others in the European hierarchy, he seems out of touch with the fears and anxiety experienced by ordinary citizens.

Atheist kaffur says
fools
Lynn says
If he walked out in the street with out his own goons he would not make it from point A to point B. He knows it too. But the lie continues…
The pedophile mohammed said: “Migration cannot ended as long as there is an enemy who exists.”
The single militant migrants are on hijrah with the goal of destroying every culture they encounter along the way. All they do IS intentional.
Spot On says
To be a devotee of leftism such as is obvious with this bishop and many other Catholic clerics including the Pope, life is simple. All you need to do is make fun of the “Stiffs”. Hatred of “Stiffs” is encouraged. “Stiffs” are always easy targets for the leftist-Marxist clergy.
African infidel says
Also this Billboard talking Catholics resettling islamists in America was taken down just after one day in St. Cloud. See it below:
http://hiiraan.com/news4/2016/Feb/104191/anti_muslim_billboard_posted_near_st_cloud_taken_down.aspx
Ex-muslim says
Many of the muslims immigrating to America and other Western countries as refugees are sponsored by the Catholic Church and the same Catholic Church ignores the suffering Christians in the M.E. countries. I have NO respect for the Catholic Church and its evil, pro islamic institutions.
shrugger says
They’re not really pro islamic as such. They’re pro Ca$hy Money. The Feds pay them a Metric Crap Ton for each infiltrator they resettle.
Stop subsidizing them and they’re attitude will do a 180.
gravenimage says
I worked briefly with Catholic Charities back in the 1990s. The do a lot of work with refugees in general–there were a lot of Vietnamese and Cambodian boat people at the time being settled in the San Francisco Bay Area. Most of these people actually were very grateful to be here and for the help they were receiving, and are probably good, productive citizens by now.
I’m sure Catholic and other Christian charity groups are just trying to tell themselves that violent, demanding Muslim immigrants are no different.
umbra says
Indeed. These western european Catholic prelates are corrupt in many ways (morally, financially, theologically, etc). It would have been better if the Catholic Church has an African Pope. Further, the vastly unbalanced proportion of european cardinals should be reduced substantially.
Ex-muslim says
True. These Western Catholic prelates are financially and sexually corrupt, pro-islamic, politically-correct and culturally decadent. Read this German Bishop who a few years ago spent 42 million dollars “renovating” his residence: http://www.businessinsider.com/bishop-of-bling-spends-42-million-on-official-residence-2013-10
Lia Wissing says
RCC has gone blind & deaf, but unfortunately not dumb.
Lee Hicks says
Every statement from Catholicism regarding Islam only confirms the moral emptiness and corruption of it. The Pope was an enabler of Hitler in WW2, and the Pope and Catholic leaders are enablers of the corruption of Islam in this day. Some things never change, unfortunately.
Guest says
Would it go too far to suspect that papism helped Islam to expand into Europe 1300 years ago?
Robert Spencer says
Considering that “papism” in its modern form didn’t develop until several hundred years after that, and considering that it was Popes who called the Crusades and who led the resistance to the conquest and Islamization of Europe for centuries, yes, it would go too far. There are modern-day Protestant polemics that claim that “the Vatican” invented Islam as part of its scheme for world domination. These are absurd and ahistorical claims.
John C. Barile says
Lee Hicks echoes the unfounded slander against Pope Pius XII, which is abhorrent. Popes Pius XI and Pius XII opposed the Nazis’ programme of race-and-blood nationalism, statism, and their idolatrous leader cult. See Pius XI’s encyclicalMit Brennender Sorge (March 14, 1937).
gravenimage says
Yes–these natterings about Islam being deliberately enabled–or even created!–by Catholicism is just absurd, and has no historical basis.
In fact, Catholics bravely *fought* the incursions of Islam for centuries.
As for the ludicrous “political correctness” we are seeing from all too many Catholic prelates, unfortunately many Protestant and sometimes even Orthodox clerics are just as bad,
Annak says
@gravenimage : nothing can be worse than Evangelical ” Chrislam” now spreading it’s tentacles to other churches.
African infidel says
Catholic Bishops should be forced to convert to islam. They are evil TRAITORS!
DFD says
African infidel says: “..Catholic Bishops should be forced to convert to islam…”
I thought they are already have been converted – oh dear..
Veritas says
Beware of men in black everywhere!
Jay Boo says
I am suspicious of all ‘religious’ men who wear dresses and fancy headgear, however I do not see any value in making broad generalizations against Catholicism followed by a defeatist conclusion of Some things never change, unfortunately.
Many Muslims hate Catholicism as instructed by the Quran and see Rome as a potent threat to Islam.
Christianblood says
Jay Boo posted:
(…I am suspicious of all ‘religious’ men who wear dresses and fancy headgear…)
Have you ever been to an Orthodox country Jay Boo? I doubt it. The problem is not the ‘religious’ dresses, icons, and religious relics carried by holy religious people such priest, monks and ascetics (and we have many of those in Orthodox countries) the problem is the moral corruption and postmodernist relativism which has profoundly infected and corrupted Catholic and protestant clergies and institutions in the Western world.We don’t have any of that moral CRAP in the Eastern Orthodox Christian countries.
Jay Boo says
My comment was mostly in reference to Lee Hicks comment.
The original is way above now.
Edward says
What do you mean by saying that the Pope was an enabler of Hitler?
Peggy says
Maybe this
http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/yugoslavia_catholic_church.htm
Christianblood says
Peggy
Thanks for sharing this Peggy. The Catholics sided with muslims even in the latest Balkan wars and are still allied with them today. Just as America and Nato are baking and allied with islamic jihadists worldwide, including the genocidal Turks so is the Catholic Church backing and aiding muslim refugees/muslim jihadists worldwide while it ignores the suffering Christians in the islamic world. Something is really rotting in Western societies at the roots!
celticwarriorcanada says
So true Lee ! And I’m ashamed to have to say that the country where my people are from (Ireland ) was no better ; as they even offered safe haven for Nazi War Criminals like the Monster from Croatia ( can”t think of his name right now ! ) It’s also interesting that the Protestant Reformation took place within the context of a Europe , which was holding back the Ottomans , but feared invasion ! Which led to the controversies surrounding whether Christians should Fight ,or whether they should be Pacifists ! Making some Radical Christians( ANABAPTISTS ) Unpopular because of their tendency towards Pacifism !
gravenimage says
Catholics have staunchly fought against Muslim invasion into Europe for centuries.
And Catholicism is not the only denomination riven by “political correctness”–one finds this with many Protestants and even Eastern Orthodox. The Patriarch of Moscow just a few days ago called for “interreligious dialogue”.
This is suicidal foolishness is widespread with Christians, Jews, and secularists–really, it cuts across lines.
Peggy says
You’re right. The only way to make a difference I think would be to tell our priests that we will not be coming to church for as long as they maintain that ideology.
Withdraw money from them and they will have to change. All the mainstream Christianity has gone mad.
Catholic, Protestant or Orthodox, our churches are against us.
Christianblood says
gravenimage
What do you expect Patriarch Kiril to say? To call a religious war?
As a religious leader what he said was reasonable and fitting. The other thing we really need to understand is that most of the Orthodox peoples of the East have lived under abusive islamic rule for over 400 years where millions of Orthodox Christians were enslaved, forcibly converted and murdered so Orthodox Christians do understand what it means to live under islamic rule, Western societies don’t understand this and are deeply naive and suicidal about it and that is why you have something like this going on in the West even in the highest levels of Western governments:
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/muslim-persecution-of-christians/u-s-state-dept-invites-muslim-leaders-denies-christians/
DFD says
gravenimage says: “…This is suicidal foolishness is widespread with Christians, Jews, and secularists–really, it cuts across lines.”
Indeed, I think people like ‘Christianblood’ are simply trying to promote Russian Orthodoxy. Quote: “We don’t have any of that moral CRAP in the Eastern Orthodox Christian countries.” He proclaims to be so knowledgeable about eastern Europe and claim that eastern Europe is Orthodox. But Poland isn’t, neither are the Baltics, Serbia only partially…
It may look strange, but answering you, and agreeing with your statement seems to be better than answering ‘christianblood’.
It was actually a pope who started the first crusade, Urban II.
So, I completely agree with you. And in case somebody wonders, I am a Christian, protestant origin, but have given up on denomination.
gravenimage says
Christianblood wrote:
gravenimage
What do you expect Patriarch Kiril to say? To call a religious war?
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Christianblood, I expect him to be held to the same standards you hold non-Orthodox religious figures to.
In this case both the Pope and Patriarch Kiril did say that Christians in the Middle East are being threatened, abused, and killed–this was a good thing–and then they both failed to mention who it was who is killing them, and both called for more pointless ‘interfaith dialogue’.
The idea that there is nothing for a Christian cleric to do between ignoring Jihad terror or calling for a new Crusade is absurd–and the sort of thing, in fact, that you would normally sneer at.
I would like to see the Pope, Patriarch Kiril, and other Christian leaders honestly name the genocide of Christians in Dar-al-Islam for what it is–violence at the hands of Muslims.
More:
As a religious leader what he said was reasonable and fitting. The other thing we really need to understand is that most of the Orthodox peoples of the East have lived under abusive islamic rule for over 400 years where millions of Orthodox Christians were enslaved, forcibly converted and murdered so Orthodox Christians do understand what it means to live under islamic rule…
……………………………
Actually, Kiril is the Patriarch of *Moscow*–Moscow has never been under Islamic rule. Moreover, while there are some exceptions, most Russian Orthodox are not living under Islamic rule, either. In fact, there are probably more Catholics in this situation.
Patriarch Kiril is not living under dhimmitude, and has the same freedom to speak out against Muslim genocide of Christians as Pope Francis does.
More:
…Western societies don’t understand this and are deeply naive and suicidal about it and that is why you have something like this going on in the West even in the highest levels of Western governments:
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Yes–Western governments *are* frequently naive and foolish, and are often mired in willful denial when it comes to the threat of Islam–we both agree on this.
But your constant claims are that Russia and the Orthodox Church have no such problems, and that simply isn’t borne out–either with the equivocal comments from Patriarch of Moscow, or the sometimes enabling of Jihad and Shari’ah from Putin.
I am not singling out the east at all here–just saying what should be obvious to anyone who is being honest–that appeasement and denial are all too common throughout much of Dar-al-Harb, and is something we *all* need to face.
gravenimage says
One more thing re this:
Christianblood wrote:
gravenimage
What do you expect Patriarch Kiril to say? To call a religious war?
……………………………
Christianblood, you may not have noticed, but there is *already* a religious war going on, where Muslims are oppressing and murdering Christians.
If Patriarch Kiril openly acknowledged this it would not call a religious war–just note that Muslims have long since declared one against us.
gravenimage says
Agreed, DFD. Good post.
Christianblood says
gravenimage
The meeting between the Pope and the Russia Patriarch was first to build bridges between Eastern and Western Christians and secondly Patriarch voiced the persecution of Christians in the M.E and the Pope agree with him and they did issue a communici on this matter. You are right, Russia was not under islamic rule but had a very long bloody war with the Ottoman Turks and other muslim principalities who were many times backed by the West but Serbia, Armenia, Bulgaria, Greece, Romania and other Orthodox peoples in the East did suffer over 400 years of brutal islamic subjugation and mass-murder, forced conversions and slavery. Graven, every Orthodox Christian in the east knows this and it is in their DNA and it really hurts them deeply when they keep seeing Catholics, Protestants and Western governments backing muslim fascists, such as the genocidal Turks or muslims in the Balkans against Orthodox Christians and bombing Orthodox Christians who were simply defending themselves. What do you think, if God forbid, some very strong muslim armies attack America or the UK sometime in the future and Russia, Serbia or some other super power Orthodox Christian nations side with the muslims and take part the bombing in huge ways? The point is the Russian Patriarch knows very well of the global islamic jihadist problem but he is also very aware of all the pro-islamic attitudes and the crazy political-correctness of the West, including the Pope/Vatican and because of this, it was not the right time for him to speak out more than he already did.
Ex-muslim says
DFD
‘Christianblood’ is right. I am an ex-muslim and my experience with the Orthodox people (I spent a number of years in Bulgaria and Greece) is that they are very strict in their religion and it affects all of their lives and decisions and even to those who are nominally Christian and I have a great respect for them! In the protestant/Catholic West the situation is shockingly different in that not only Western churches are allowing sinful (gay marriages) in Churches but they are also openly aiding and supporting and being so merciful to islamic jihadists while they ignore the plight of Christians suffering in the islamic world. This happened to me personally and I know and experienced this first hand.
The only Western Christian group I can trust are the Evangelical/Pentacostal Christians. All the Catholics and other main stream Protestant “Christians” are evil traitors who are working against Christ and His teachings. To understand what I am talking about visit the link below: http://www.christiansinpakistan.com/swedish-church-to-collect-funds-to-build-mosque/
CeltictotheBone says
Still at it with the undocumented accusations, eh? Canadian knowledge quotients have been sliding for some time now and hit rock bottom with the election of moslem pandering nancy-boy Trudeau recently.
What has happened to Canada? It has become populated with clowns like you and Trudeau and hordes of unvetted moslems.
Jay Boo says
Every statement ? really?
Followed by more one sided broad generalizations.
This are the kind of one-sided defeatist thinking that says America, the EU (UK in particular) is doomed.
Ex-muslim says
Indeed! The Catholic Church is corrupted from the Western secular postmodernism and it has totally lost its relevance. As an ex-muslim, I don’t see any difference between the Catholic clergy/institutions and their islamic institutional allies and I consider them both as my mortal enemies.
Frank in Newfoundland says
Well, pretty obviously you know very little about the Catholic clergy, institutions, or FAITH. Yes, you’re right, the Catholic Church has some very serious problems, but you are pretty clearly extrapolating from particular problems and corruptions to make a universal condemnation. The Catholic Church is not just a ‘Western’ church, nor was it just established yesterday.
Further, you seem not to consider that the Catholic Church has been the principal target of the Nazis, the Communists and, now that they’re emboldened, the Islamists. The jihadists have stated that “Rome” is tops on their hit-list. Before them, the Nazis and Communists BOTH tried (with varying degrees of success) to infiltrate the Church.
I’m sorry your only knowledge / experience of the Church has been negative. I pray you meet a good, holy priest … who also knows his History! (Most of them don’t, and since the Second Vatican Council up-ended everything, they likely got poor formation in their seminaries.)
Ex-muslim says
Frank in Newfoundland says
(…Most of them don’t, and since the Second Vatican Council up-ended everything, they likely got poor formation in their seminaries…)
Then they must REFORM The damn seminaries, if they wish to remain relevant…and they must also abandon the curse of forced celibacy on clergy and grow some beards!
gravenimage says
Ex-muslim wrote:
As an ex-muslim, I don’t see any difference between the Catholic clergy/institutions and their islamic institutional allies and I consider them both as my mortal enemies.
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Much as I hate the sort of mealy-mouthed dhimmitude we see here, the idea that clueless Catholic clergy who desperately want to believe Islam is a religion of peace and Islamic clerics actually preaching the rape, enslavement, and murder of Infidels are no different is–with respect–just ridiculous false moral equivalence.
Peggy says
Who was it who said “All that is required for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing”.
If you stand back and allow evil to triumph then you are not much better. This is obviously for people in a position to do something and that included our religious leaders.
Catholic church is not the only one not only saying nothing but lying to us about the threat. No church is standing up and exposing this evil which is really scaring me. They have more than abandoned us. They are siding with Islam by not motivating us to stand up and fight. They are minimizing the threat and leading us into a false sense of security.
If the Pope, Archbishop of Canterbury, Patriarch of Moscow stood up and said openly how much danger this world is in from Islam, more people would feel free to say it openly too.
Catholic church being the most influential and having the most followers must seek meetings with others and be the first to stand up.
I don’t believe that they are trying to see the good in Muslims. If we can see the bad, so can they. Our religious leaders are selling us out.
Ex-muslim says
(gravenimage)
Agreed. Good point!
Keys says
@Lee Hicks
Please consider reading “Before the Dawn: Autobiographical Reflections by Eugenio Zolli, Former Chief Rabbi of Rome” available on Amazon, if you have not already read it.
Zolli was Chief Rabbi in Rome during the Nazi occupation and worked with Eugenio Pacelli, Pope Pius XII. Even if you hate the Catholic Church, it is a fascinating book if you are interested in WWll history.
Lucienne says
Do you get it yet? Let me help you out. After the rapture of the Born Again Church ( 1 Thes 4.16) The False religions of the word unite for satans one world govt /religion. Got Jesus as your Savior in Faith alone? It is the only way (John 14.6)
John Galt III says
Now that we have that out the way, we can go back to molesting children.
Mary says
Lee Hicks,
You said “every statement from Catholicism,” but didn’t you notice that the above commentary was from a prominent *Catholic* newspaper?
As a Catholic myself, I can attest to the accuracy of the above commentary: there is a huge disconnect between the elite Catholic hierarchy and the everyday Catholic folks on the ground.
DFD says
Mary says: ”… there is a huge disconnect between the elite Catholic hierarchy and the everyday Catholic folks on the ground.”
Mary, I am sure there is. In my opinion that is not only true for Catholics, but for all major denominations. At least in the west. To clarify, I am a Christian, brought up Protestant, but by now I have simply given up denominations as such. I may sound funny or wisecracking, but I mean it: Christ is the best Christian and best parson/priest (whatever) to follow! Or rather, trying to do so. And I do not believe that his words, or those of the preceding prophets need explanation or interpretation, nor those of the Father. I believe they were, and are, perfectly capable of speaking for themselves.
Having said that, I realize of course that there must be communal life, a church or congregation that is. I worked out a compromise for myself, on some Sundays I join the local hugging-club, about 30 minutes before end. I invented a good excuse for my late arrivals.
What you stated about the hierarchy is correct, again, for most if not all denominations, at least in the western world. How do we get them to serve the Churches, and thus the congregations, and consequently Christ himself? Jesus spoke of serving and humbling.
Here my sarcasm cuts in: May be we should suggest to ‘our’ clergy that they wash our feet? After all, Jesus did that. 🙂
On that happy note I leave you
Westman says
Eliminating nationalism means the extinguishing of a nation’s culture. Why have modern European Catholic clerics become the destructors of culture? It is just more fantasy world construction by liberals, using other people’s money.
There is an ideology fully intending to fill any opportunity opened by European, universal men of the world, Catholic leadership. It also has a dagger for the ribs of these universal men.
WorkingClassPost says
Unfortunately, by representing so many people in the world, Catholic boots are starting to look too big for their current crop of leaders to fill.
Angemon says
Perfect encapsulation of their absurdness.
And because we can’t have all pay for the crimes of “a few” (a position I’ve seen no one defending ever), we must pretend none of the did anything wrong. I didn’t know it was physically possible to push forward something as spineless as that…
Donovan Nuera says
And the muslim vandals who are laughing and jeering when fireworks hit the fragile stained-glass windows of the biggest gothic cathedral in the world (and biggest tourist spot in Germany) will continue to do so as a dog marks his territory and shows “dominance” as there are no church security guards outside patrolling or cops shutting them down and arresting them for anti-Christian hate crimes and vandalism of a national monument. You don’t see muslims doing this to St. Peter’s or Notre Dame in Paris or St. Paul’s or Westminster or the Lincoln Memorial……yet. It is time for the cardinal, who is to emulate a shepherd of a flock, protect the flock and FIGHT OFF THE WOLVES!
Frank in Newfoundland says
Well said, Donovan Nuera !
It irks me no end that every time there is a legitimate complaint by Robert Spencer here at JW about some new instance of fecklessness or stupidity on the part of SOME Catholic clergy, some of the fundamentalist Protestant readers of JW take it as an open licence to take Robert’s post totally off-topic, and use it as an excuse to vent their anti-Catholic spleens, about anything and everything they dislike about Catholicism.
I think particularly of those kooks and ignorami who claim (repeatedly) that Catholics are not ‘Christians.’ They seem to think that only American Christians are ‘true’ Christians. Didn’t know they’d taken out a trademark on the word ‘Christian.’ Who gave it to them? (A bit like pharmaceutical companies trying to lock up a patent on natural herbs!)
I often get the impression that some of these Bible thumpers hate Catholicism more than they fear Islam. Indeed, that hatred is the origin of many of the anti-Catholic “Black Legends.”
I really wish Robert Spencer had more volunteers helping him moderate the posts. Far too often the majority of posts on such a thread have nothing to contribute to the discussion, and fully deserve to be ‘Deleted by Moderator.’ Indeed, I admire Robert’s tolerance, as he is Catholic himself. And he has more important work to do than policing the Comments against anti-Catholic trolls who contribute nothing to the cause but anti-Catholic bile.
The German Catholic hierarchy is pretty broadly compromised by being so snuggly in-bed with the German State, via the system of church funding in place in Germany.
For those who don’t know, the church in Germany is funded directly by the state, in proportion to the Catholic per centage of the population, rather than by individual free-will offerings into the collection plate at Mass on Sundays. That is a VERY bad idea, for any church / denomination. But the German clerics have done such a poor job of pastoring their flocks these last fifty years that church attendance on Sundays is pitifully low. One can understand how the clergy convinced themselves to take the ‘government money’ to keep things going. But he who pays the piper …
Another commenter was spot on : if you’re looking for faithful and courageous shepherds, look to the African Catholic bishops and cardinals. (The Church of England / Episcopalians are in the same boat – their Africans are better than they are.)
gravenimage says
Excellent post, Frank. I quite agree.
Annak says
Same as the Dutch reformed Protestant churches in the Netherlands with their ministers earning one of the highest salaries around plus a free house. I am not sure about the RCC though. Unlikely as other and “Free” churches are not funded by the Government.
DFD says
Donovan Nuera says: “… church security guards outside patrolling or cops shutting them down and arresting them for anti-Christian hate crimes and vandalism…”
Indeed. But the German, Merkelian (?) police is protecting mosques. Incidentally, that ‘bishop’ who was ‘annoyed’ by the noise; the worshipers inside were frightened. Which is of course what the filth desires, “…cast terror into the hearts…”
That man is an insult to Christ and Christendom. But then, a Quran kissing Pope. It’s time for fighting off the wolves? The ‘church leadership’ will feed them with Christians!
Gerd says
I leaved the church because of this Idiots!Also they are speaking about help,but they take a lot of money from the state(pax tayer)when they take refugees in there buildings(the church had many in germany).So why they take money if they arer talking from help?
If i help a homeless i do it with my own money,and not from the taxpayer!Also the priests get a lot of money,but if you are dead your family must also pay money for the speak etc.
Jay Boo says
Gerd said, “but if you are dead your family must also pay money for the speak etc.”
Last Rites sacrament
I did not know that that fee was ‘mandatory’ rather than a courtesy offered as donation to the church for a priest to be called on short notice, often by church members who have not attended mass in years but still feel extra entitled all the same.
mortimer says
If they have not attended for years, they are not church members ‘in good standing’, but lapsed, former members. Membership in every group has criteria. If people do not attend, contribute and participate in an organization, in what sense are they ‘members’? In a fantasy sense, presumably.
Pong says
“I leaved the church”
That is what every decent person should do. How can anyone belong to an institution, which doesn’t represent his values?
Catholic church has a long history of supporting and promotions islam. It is anti-semitic and pro-palestinian. Must add that many others churches are the same.
Davegreybeard says
@Lucienne
“Got Jesus as your Savior in Faith alone? It is the only way (John 14.6)”
While I am not a Christian, I am sympathetic to some of the message of Jesus Christ and I am generally supportive of Christians.
But Christians IN THE BIRTHPLACE OF CHRISITIANITY have been praying to Jesus Christ, for salvation from Muslim persecution for FOURTEEN GODDAMN CENTURIES!!
Does it EVER occur to you, AFTER ALL THESE CENTURIES OF PRAYING TO JESUS, that maybe something more is required?
TJFreedomjihad says
DGB, I believe God and Christ already addressed that point millennia ago, even before the all criminal gang of mohammadans was invented by the little sick criminal pedophile butchering male of questionable existence.
Here, among many other related reference verses of guidance.
”BLESSED BE THE LORD, MY ROCK, WHO TRAINS MY HANDS FOR WAR, AND MY FINGERS FOR BATTLE” –Psalm 144:1
THEN SAID HE UNTO THEM, “BUT NOW, HE THAT HATH A PURSE, LET HIM TAKE IT AND LIKEWISE HIS PACK; AND HE THAT HATH NO SWORD, LET HIM SELL HIS GARMENT AND BUY ONE. — Luke 22:36 KJV, 21C [Clearly, God is admonishing to arm oneself with a rifle, or pistol, sword and dagger, single or double edged knife, or even a light saber, to reach out and touch an enemy, as with a sword, for travel, and become trained in defense……..]
WHEN A STRONG MAN, FULLY ARMED, GUARDS HIS OWN PALACE, HIS GOODS ARE SAFE; –Luke 11:21
We must be our own and our brother’s keeper, it is well established in our Bible, from God, to us!
Pretty much all our lives are covered, as to the right way to behave. And pretty much better than ever, these days, one only needs to seek and ye may find, with google, or perhaps startpage, among the best, currently.
Peggy says
God helps those who help themselves.
gravenimage says
Yes–this was just the quote I was going to cite.
Rich says
The European bishops are, almost to a man, utterly corrupt individuals. They have lost their way entirely, as have, as well, the utterly corrupt bishops of the USCCB. Those are the plain facts for anyone who cares to inform themselves. Go to Church Militant dot com and read about just how corrupt these men are. The information is ‘out there’ and available for anyone to know, if they care to inform themselves.
And so these bishops come out with outrageous statements like this about how the “real problem” is with the *response* of free peoples to Islamic jihad and not with Islamic jihad itself. Of course they are wrong, as history will attest a hundred years from now. And of course they are completely out of touch with both reality and the real concerns of their flocks.
These men are the “whitewashed tombs” Christ spoke about in Matthew 23. They are supposed to be shepherds of the sheep, but instead they are ravenous wolves in sheep’s clothing. They spend their days filling their belly and their nights in their gay lover’s arms. They are supposed to protect and guide the sheep, but instead they encourage the wolves in and counsel the sheep not to resist. Their judgment will come. In the meantime, we must resist their bourgeois arrogance and lies.
Keys says
@Rich
I don’t believe all of the bishops are totally corrupt, and there are so many good priests. Don’t you think so?
You said when “bishops come out with outrageous statements like this about how the “real problem” is with the *response* of free peoples to Islamic jihad and not with Islamic jihad itself” and “of course they are completely out of touch with both reality and the real concerns of their flocks.”
Not only do I think that those are accurate statements, but I also think if the Bishops as a group do not address this issue openly and frankly that the crisis in the Church will be more severe than the priestly pedophile crisis. They will loose all credibility and further dishearten faithful Catholics. Some bishops may already sense this, and therefore not desire to deal with it openly fearing it will be divisive, and maybe not turn out the way they hope.
I suggest that all the dialogue they intend to have with their muslim counterparts be recorded, televised if possible, and made public on TV or the USCCB site. There are many questions I would like them to ask the Muslims represented especially how there can be truthful dialogue with taqiyya, etc. I would like the parishoners to be given the opportunity to submit their questions/concerns. Formal questions with written responses by the Muslim reps (and vice versa). Not concerns about Islam answered by the Bishops, but by the reps of Islam. No secret meetings with volumns of one-sided documents following.
Somehow I don’t feel there will be broad input, but only hand-picked “lay” reps at best. I understand they do not want dialogue to be disrespectful and confrontational, but if it is not uncomfortable, it will not be honest.
mortimer says
SADO-MASICHISM?
“All Germans are hereby ordered to commit national suicide AND LIKE IT! If you don’t like suicide, it’s a sign you are a secret Nazi who should be exterminated.”
– Cardinal Rainer Woelki of Cologne
mortimer says
Pope Francis is as much a ‘non-nationalist’ as Cardinal Rainer Woelki of Cologne . They are both delirious.
Theology supports patriotism as a form of Christian altruism. Toxic nationalism is another matter entirely and no Germans are seriously considering toxic nationalism. The ‘Endlösung der Deutschenfrage’ being proposed by deliriously mad Germans like Merkel is a toxic idea that the country’s intellectuals must urgently refute before it’s too late.
mortimer says
The proud Cardinal Rainer Woelki of Cologne apparently feels morally superior to anyone who has read the Sira, the hadiths, the Koran, the canonical commentaries and Sharia law. Cardinal Woelki feels his moral superiority comes from his LACUNA of knowledge about Islam, particularly his LACUNA of knowledge regarding 1) the jihad doctrine 2) the Islamic misogyny doctrine 3) the Islamic apartheid doctrine 4) the Islamic supremacism doctrine 5) the taqiyya doctrine 6) the Islamic vigilantism doctrine.
Such an enormous LACUNA within his brain has been filled with an equal amount of hot gas and suicidal nonsense.
Cardinal Woelki should be forced into an early retirement.
DFD says
mortimer says: “…Cardinal Woelki should be forced into an early retirement.”
You are so kind hearted…
scherado says
Does anyone expect anything less than what they fear the most? I don’t. It will be the most exquisite self-fulfilled prophecy imaginable. It’s happening as we breathe.
There will be everything they fear in spades if they don’t reverse course.
Michael Copeland says
“Christianity should be destroyed and wiped from the face of the earth.”
Islamic Power has returned ….to once and for all rid the world of Christianity….”
Sheik Farook al-Mohammedi,
http://libertygb.org.uk/news/islams-vision-destruction-muslims-speak
Cameron says
If you want to see an end to “islamophobia” then you need to put an end to Islamic crime. Not fucking difficult.
Bridget Ames says
Okay, well if we’re all going to make up things to be afraid of Bishops, what about Christophobia, the made up word for when Muslims try to go after us in the west and they team up with leftest extremest who wish for the destruction of those of us in the west who still possess a brain. It also includes those in the Church who wish to destroy the very gift that God Almighty gave us in order to form our souls to go to Heaven. I wish those who are suppose to be leaders would not lead us into great peril.
TJFreedomjihad says
Catholicism is in the process of committing global suicide onto the mohammadans. Although Catholicism is not my cup of tea, any more than most organized Christians with the way they too currently behave, (and for the confused muslims in the audience, I mostly (not only) mean they are not even close to being adequately anti-evil mohammadanism, if they can even recognize the devil, or study the truth of deeply criminal evil mohammadanism, identical to the Catholic problem), Catholicism has had many moments of value for humanity, and its own, and even some moments of greatness. Unfortunately, and of even more consequence than the ministerial class of various Protestant religions who also are committing the same suicide cozying up to mohammadanism, in full ignorance of reality of evil, the Catholics because of quantities, and apparent control or power over its members are doing a far greater shame and disservice to them, and to all humanity, at large as a consequence.
The bottom line of the problem is when the leaders at least, of a large religious body is unable to recognize satan, on the ascendency, Catholicism’s truest primary and deepest eternal enemy (equally so for us all), nor recognize its means and methods, though they are taught and cautioned against this, in its own Bible, by our God, G-d, who made it plain, especially through Christ, when they lack the discipline to do rigorous study even on their own of the evil from its source trilogy, even when they must on occasion against their too often failed leaders, when they can’t even recognize the devil’s disciples in front of them demonstrating and exhorting evil, and they yet attempt to welcome satanic behavior and deceit, they doom themselves, and all who follow to agonizing death, but especially themselves to that perdition they so often are wont to refer, and to losing all their existence, ultimately.
Perhaps they and too many others have played with too many sinners and devils, over too much time, so that they can no longer recognize or care, when the ultimate one presents, in reality.
They have no understanding that having played with and tolerated, and outreached with the mafia, little street gang members, and other individual crooks and heinous individuals, that they are now confronting the real deal gang of all gangs, satan’s most coveted own evil gang-islam. These mohammadans are practiced and trained as though straight out of satan’s hell. These leaders clearly have no concept about how wholly deadly unlike any people they’ve dealt with before are these cretin zombies. These perps, if welcomed will take Catholics totally down and out and gone, EVEN IF NOT WELCOMED (They prefer to be sucker welcomed, but infiltrate and destroy anyway, if not welcomed). I hope these leaders are other than quaking in their shoes, with cowardly fear! I know what I am doing which is a whole lot more than they, which is pathetic!
Catholicism will no longer exist, if they don’t wake up. Unless they straighten up and fly right, better than they had in the ’30s for example with the rise of a small echo of the evil of mohammadanism demonstrated in hitler. Some Catholics acted heroically but too many were slow to respond. The Catholics, the church, had direct access to Germany, Austria, we didn’t yet. The Catholic leaders are supposed to be learned in the Bible, and Christ’s lessons, and demonstrations, and to be able to recognize evil quicker and better then the mere we of the world, but they failed to do so and lead and educate, loudly and clearly, and moreover bravely. But yes, also did the rest of the so called advanced globe fail to act correctly and quickly enough. Everyone had a finger in the pie of irresponsibility!
We will ALL be the much poorer for it, just as if there were no longer the intelligent Jews, as well. We too, then will cease to exist, We who may not embrace Catholicism, or may not be a Jew, or only a partial Jew, we all will suffer our extinction as a body, of free people. We really are in the same boat, atheist or otherwise as non-mohammadans, and we will sink or survive together, likely bloodied, but survive.
Catholicism is required to take a leadership role, it must, over more than its own flock, with no expectation of gratitude, which it has only on occasion in history taken, of rectitude. Among its exemplary times were La Ponto ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Lepanto) , (some historians consider the La Ponto win to be epochal, so incredible was it) and some of the rather paltry and remarkably limited Crusades, compared to the actual evil depredations on the Continent and the Levant, of the evil criminal gang of mohammadans in whatever forms, they took. The mohammadans did on the order of a hundred times or more of their own ‘crusades’, than our side.
And parenthetically, the current pope, extremely controversial, does not well know his Bible, as walls are indeed ordained to be built, and he dramatically speaks way to often out of anything he knows and out of all Christendom, it seems. If he knew the Bible well, at least the KJV, he would not speak against walls, and much else. He speaks too often peevishly. This is the observation of many, very often honest Catholics, whom I do generally respect as very good people, who do try to follow God and Christ in their lives, just to be clear, even when not supported by their human leaders. It is not like we don’t have Christ as a shining example of righteous behavior. Fox news has lambasted the pope today, especially the matter of walls, like the Vatican’s walls, and Jerusalem’s including even a Catholic FNC. Bridges to satan and hell are never to be built, not ever. If Christ were here, he would personally destroy those lunacy ‘bridges’ to satan, just as he upset the tables and formed a whip, and used it to rid the temple of the money changers and merchants, in the church-temple! Right is right, and the current leaders are wrong!
But if Catholicism or Judaism exercise no intelligent power or leadership against evil, then they cease to be, and so do we, as well. Then they are of no value. FOR WE, OF THE WEST, ARE ALL EXISTING OF ONE CULTURAL VALUE, THAT OF WESTERN CIVILIZATION BASED UPON THE AGES AND THE GREEK AND HEBREW BIBLE. ITS VALUES ARE THOSE OF FAIRNESS, THE GOLDEN RULE, AND FINALLY, THE COMMANDMENTS. WE ARE INDEED BIBLICALLY INSTRUCTED BY GOD, MOREOVER TO DEFEND OURSELVES, AGAINST EVIL FORCES, TO TAKE UP ARMS, TRAIN AND ENGAGE IF NECESSARY, SAID BY GOD, AND TO BUILD WALLS, FOR DEFENSE ALSO, AND HE WILL BE WITH US! (PSALM 144-1)NO ONE SHOULD EVER MAKE ANY MISTAKE ABOUT THAT, NOT EVER! WE ARE BOUND UNTO GOD, AGREE OR NOT!
TJFreedomjihad says
Hoped to flesh out a bit more, connected to my comment and some others preceding, and it is this:
We are also instructed ‘to ourselves sow, and to reap’, and to ‘measure people by their fruit and their company kept’ and among much else wisdoms, that ‘there is a time, a season, for everything’, that we are to take action, to follow through with good intentions which by themselves are not good enough, profound wisdoms good for an eternity.
Frankly, way back then, the quantity of wisdoms, their significance, value, sophistication, is difficult to imagine, even from GOD as they seemed to early, as so of many humankind seem not to know or be able to grasp such in the current age, even in America. Also was stated that GOD is surrounding us, in everything. This GOD is a part of us, as well. To me, this little verse, a statement, really says GOD is actually the matter and force, space and time, integrated as one, of all that keeps us ordered, ion by ion, atom by atom, molecule by molecule, the laws and principles that so far science has discovered, outwardly and inwardly. Jesus was a projection demonstration real human for mankind to relate to, a kind of infinite staccato exclamation mark for mankind, as we cannot sense the unimaginable infinite force otherwise easily. The concept of ‘infinite’ itself is not graspable by us, yet we have a symbol representing it ‘∞’, and use the concept in the Calculus ‘∫’. Perhaps in time, we may come to sense God?
Wonder what this magic profound simple verse is, wonder no more: Acts 17-24 The God who made the world and everything in it, being Lord of heaven and earth, does not live in temples made by man,[c] 25 nor is he served by human hands, as though HE needed anything, SINCE HE HIMSELF GIVES TO ALL MANKIND, LIFE AND BREATH AND EVERYTHING! Yet He is actually not far from each one of us, 28 for “‘IN HIM WE LIVE AND MOVE AND HAVE OUR BEING’;[d]
The mystery. It works, but as little children, how is that so, why is it so, Father?
gravenimage says
After New Year’s Eve sex assaults by Muslim migrants, European Catholic bishops warn of rise of “right-wing” & “Islamophobia”
Cardinal Rainer Woelki of Cologne condemned the sexual assaults outside his cathedral, but reserved most of his concern for threats from “right or brown circles.” Bishop Gregor Hanke of Eichstätt complained that German leaders who talked of re-establishing borders were adopting policies that were “right-wing and Islamophobic.” Cardinal Christoph Schönborn, the archbishop of Vienna, recently warned that, in the face of Europe’s migrant crisis, the biggest risk is the return of a “new nationalism.” The challenge of the refugees, he said, creates “the risk that everyone withdraws into their own limits” and that “the borders, barriers, walls, the Iron Curtain will return.”
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Uh…right. The Cardinal condemns the mass rapes of innocent girls right outside his Cathedral, but believes that any attempts to keep more rapists from flooding in to Europe is the “biggest risk”.
And on January 5-6, Cardinal Rainer Woelki switched off the lights of Cologne Cathedral–not to protest the mass Muslim molestations, but to protest Pergida for daring to march against them,
Story is here:
http://www.catholicnews.com/services/englishnews/2015/german-catholics-criticize-anti-islam-marches-but-urge-understanding.cfm
Annak says
Absurd.
Here we go , the ” gutmenschen” church leaders once again out in hand-wringing droves going where angels fear to tread…back to the era where a certain group were ” blamed” for all ills.
This is behind it all,they are the ones who fear fear fear. PEGIDA will spark a “Nazi revival”….. they fear.
The height of stupidity and ignorance is making comparisons of condeming mass rapists and third world criminal invaders to…..the persecution of innocent Jewish citizens integrated in the country for centuries who did not fill prisons or mass rape.
Calling evil good and good evil is what they are doing. The end-time luke-warm church Jesus spews out His mouth ?
Benedict says
And the Pope talks about those who want to protect the US from the riff raff from across the border “Not Christian”
Frank in Newfoundland says
As much as I have tried, for three years, to give this man the benefit of every doubt, I am forced to conclude that Pope Francis is (‘Catholically’-speaking) an idiot.
That his election was engineered by the St. Gallen mafia, that he is Argentinean, and that he is a Jesuit (and we all know the Jesuits have been off the rails for six or more decades), makes me a little more comfortable with my conclusion.
Kepha says
The Pope is perfectly free to allow as many jihadis and MS-13 types as he likes inside the very impressive Vatican walls for resettlement.
I’m not a Trump supporter. If it’s him against Shrillary Shrooooooooooo or Brooklyn Commie Boynie, I’ll hold my nose and vote for the Male Vanity Hairdo. But I’m not rooting for him to get the GOP nomination.
Caro says
The above comments are exactly the reasons why I left the RCC. Anyway, all churches are part of and promote one world government. Have done for years! Although I still have my faith, I have found all churches to be fake and their clergy also fake! I will never join a parish again.
Kepha says
Maybe so, Caro, but it just may be that you’ve been exposed to too many churches and clergy who’ve forgotten the very message they were sent to proclaim. Indeed, that makes them “fakes”.
But God is true even if every man is a liar. (Rom. 3:4)–and you can’t accuse Paul the Apostle of having an overly optimistic view of human nature following the fall of Adam. I go to church for the fellowship of other people who accept the Gospel of salvation through the shed blood and victorious resurrection of Jesus Christ, not to congratulate myself and other people, or hear their self-congratulations and congratulation of me. Church is a hospital for sinners (which is what Christ wants it to be) rather than a museum of finished saints (we can have that in Heaven). Yes, there are problems with clergy. Yes, there are problems with those reputed to be pillars. There was a problem with Peter himself, which required Paul’s rebuke (Gal. 2:11 ff.) And there are a whole lot of problems with Uncle Kepha and his wife, too (which I won’t go into, lest I seem to glory in my own shame). But that’s exactly why we need Christ; and why Christ has given us brothers and sisters for mutual help..
And, yes, I promote a one world government, too. One with a Jewish king at its head–for all authority in Heaven and on earth has been given to the risen Jesus (Mt. 28:18).
Rita says
Just emulating their boss, pope Francis, an anti-conservative, anti-Judeo-Christian show pony and whore for islam if ever there was one.
vcragain says
I think that the current ‘Islamaphobic’ label is getting overused and it is currently ‘in fashion’ to follow the concept of ‘everybody is innocent until proven guilty’ and ‘we are all Liberals together’ – ie tolerate all and everything because……. This is a problem at the present moment in time because there is OBVIOUSLY a shift in the reality of what is going on in the world. Whether by design or accident there are HOARDS of young Muslim people(mainly males) entering Europe – whether they individually go to Europe because of the generous economic policies or whether they choose Europe because they want to be an Islamic Jihadee we do not know, but the end result is that of flooding of Europe with millions of people with a totally different mindset to Western ideology. I did not know as a young person in college with several young Muslims, that how they see the world could be VERY different from my own view – how would I know that? I did learn that their(male) attitude to girls was dangerous – and I am talking about 50 years ago in London, UK ! I learned to distrust them that long ago ! So – what to do – as a Westerner I want our Liberal lifestyle to be preserved, warts & all for the sake of the freedoms that people paid a high price to gain ! However this Islamic threat MUST be dealt with and it will not be if we close our eyes to what is happening, if we allow this lifestyle to gain any influence in the West we are opening the door to their ambitions, and those are NOT tolerant of US. We HAVE to be awake and guard the fort – individual Muslims may not wish to harm us but their group’s intent is to push their cult on to the rest of the world, and they are already in the West – Liberals (like myself on most things) should not be sweet-talked into letting a brasher, more determined foe infiltrate and sideline our society. WAKE UP – this is not a call to violence & hatred, but a call for watchful self-preservation – give up NOTHING to keep life “peaceful” – I did this same thing in my married life for 30 years – the ‘pushy’ one will just demand more until you have no real voice – I see this as entirely a human nature thing – if you give in they will take your power away ! Psychology 101 ? No violence in me, just steadfast insistence on maintaining core values of freedom – any of you out there can worship whatever fancy ‘God’ you choose but DO NOT ask me to change my way of life to ‘accommodate’ your beliefs ! If you enter another man’s house it is UNIVERSAL good manners to work within the framework that is in operation there, or leave ! .
Mitthraw says
New Order of Barbarians
This set of three audio CD’s titled The New Order of Barbarians along with a fourth CD, an interview with Randy Engel will establish the existence, scope and direction of a conspiracy which is revealed by an insider, Dr. Richard Day. Tapes one and two were recorded in 1988 and are the recollections of Dr. Lawrence Dunegan regarding a meeting he attended on March 20, 1969 at a meeting of the Pittsburgh Pediatric Society.
http://www.amazon.com/Radio-Liberty-Order-Barbarians-Volume/dp/B000W7GQVS
Blending all religions
Another area of discussion was Religion. This is an avowed atheist speaking. He said, “Religion is not necessarily bad. A lot of people seem to need religion, with it’s mysteries and rituals – so they will have religion. But the major religions of today have to be changed because they are not compatible with the changes to come. The old religions will have to go especially Christianity. Once the Roman Catholic Church is brought down, the rest of Christianity will follow easily. Then a new religion can be accepted for use all over the world. It will incorporate something from all of the old ones to make it more easy for people to accept , and feel at home. Most people won’t be too concerned with religion. They will realise that they don’t need it.”
Changing the bible through revisions of key words
In order to do this, the Bible will be changed. It will be rewritten to fit the new religion. Gradually, key words will be replaced with new words having various shades of meaning. Then the meaning attached to the new word can be close to the old word – and as time goes on, other shades of meaning of that word can be emphasised. and then gradually that word replaced with another word.” I don’t know if I’m making that clear, but the idea is that everything in Scripture need not be rewritten, just key words replaced by other words. The variability in meaning attached to any word can be used as a tool to change the entire meaning of Scripture, and therefore make it acceptable to this new religion. Most people won’t know the difference; and this was another one of the times where he said, “the few who do notice the difference won’t be enough to matter.”
The churches will help us
Then followed one of the most surprising statements of the whole presentation: He said, “Some of you probably think the Churches won’t stand for this,” and he went on to say, “the churches will help us!” There was no elaboration on this, it was unclear just what he had in mind when he said, “the churches will help us!” In retrospect I think some of us now can understand what he might have meant at that time. I recall then only of thinking, “no they won’t!” and remembering our Lord’s words where he said to Peter, “Thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my Church, and gates of Hell will not prevail against it.” So yes, some people in the Churches might help and in the subsequent 20 years we’ve seen how some people in Churches have helped. But we also know that our Lord’s Words will stand, and the gates of Hell will not prevail.
Mark A says
I’m Catholic and I’m having some major problems with these kinds of messages from Catholic Bishops.
Do our Bishops not read history? Are they willingly and knowingly unaware of the nearly 1500 year history of Islamic aggression toward non-Muslim societies. Can they not see what happened to the Syriac and Egyptian Christian churches and civilizations after their conquest by Muslims? Have they forgotten that Constantinople was once the leading city of Christendom until it was conquered by Muslims in 1453? Can they not see what this history tells them about their own future in a Muslim majority Europe?
I just can’t agree with massive Muslim immigration to western societies; I think it’s a recipe for disaster, at least for western Judeo-Christian civilization. And I can’t agree with our Bishops’ support of it.
If we want to practice Christian charity we can certainly help people in their own countries rather than bringing massive waves of culture changing immigration to our countries.
gravenimage says
Credit where it is due–here’s Cardinal Rainer Woelki, actually warning about the threat Christian refugees face from violent Muslims:
“Germany: Entire Muslim communities threatening Christians in refugee camps”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/02/germany-entire-muslim-communities-threatening-christians-in-refugee-camps
I think this just goes to show how many Westerners are deeply confused–the Cardinal recognizes the Muslim threat to at least some extent, clearly. but cannot really acknowledge what it means.
Herman says
The Catholic church completely lost it, their chief the worst!!!
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/news/detail/articolo/papa-pope-el-papa-27115/
Muslims are “our brothers” and Christians must cultivate “mutual respect” with them. These were the words of Pope Francis yesterday during the Angelus, a message which could signal a turnaround in the relationship between the Catholic Church and Islam. This changing tide can even be seen in the words used in addressing Muslims. This is the first Pope to have referred to Muslims in such direct and explicit terms as “our brothers”. This would have been practically unthinkable even up until the recent past.
What an idiot!!
http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2015/12/25/pope-francis-to-followers-koran-and-holy-bible-are-the-same-2/
a smiling Pope Francis was quoted telling the Vatican’s guests that the Koran, and the spiritual teachings contained therein, are just as valid as the Holy Bible.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/pope-says-islam-is-religion-of-peace-then-begs-muslims-to-condemn-violence
religion of peace, one which is compatible with respect for human rights and peaceful coexistence,” says the Pope. Then he calls on Muslims to push a “more authentic image of Islam, as so many of them desire.” Has he ever wondered how this version of Islam that he assumes to be inauthentic has become so widespread and so powerful as to displace millions of Christians from the Middle East?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/9/vatican-makes-history-pope-allows-islamic-prayers-/
Vatican makes history: Pope allows Islamic prayers, Koran readings
http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/muslim-peace-prayer-infidel.htm
Muslim Imam at Vatican’s Prayer for Peace Event prayed for “Victory over the Infidels”!
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/01/pope-to-refugees-muslims-can-expel-the-illness-within-our-hearts-with-quran
“Francis to refugees: Christian or Muslim, the faith your parents instilled in you will help you move on,”
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/dec/28/spain.catholicism
Pope asked to let Muslims pray in cathedral
Kepha says
Folks, we Evangelicals may not be respectable, but we still believe that salvation is in Jesus Christ–the one in the Old and New Testaments; not the Isa of the Qur’an.
The Pope talked to America’s Congress, and said nary a word about Jesus Christ, divine grace, or the need for repentance. Just the usual political pabulum (UPP–as in Uppchuck). That tells me he’s more a part of the problem than part of the solution.
Carolyne says
I don’t believe in popes or cardinals or bishops. I think they have been responsible for much of the trouble in the world. But their refusal to either know or admit that Islam is evil Cwill be the final downfall of civilization.