Auburn Uniting Church Reverend Veitinia Waqabaca said: “I am surprised (she converted) but…our people can take on another religion but we have to ask them what it is that they find attractive. We can only sit them down, these kids are very clever and help them see all the terrorism in the world and point out that it is only one religion that it is associated with and to stay away from that religion.”
The churches aren’t even doing that. While Muslims aggressively proselytize among Christian youth and turn them into jihad killers, they do nothing beyond pursuing a chimerical and fruitless “dialogue” with Muslim leaders that doesn’t do a thing to stop what happened to Alo-Bridget Namoa.
“Homegrown radical: Schoolgirl Alo-Bridget Namoa’s conversion to Islamic extremism baffles friends and family,” by Laura Banks, The Daily Telegraph, February 10, 2016:
FROM Catholic schoolgirl to allegedly carrying a knife wrapped in an Islamic shahada flag and storing images of executions on her phone, Alo-Bridget Namoa’s conversion has baffled her friends.
Her classmates from John Berne Catholic school at Lewisham remember a loud Christian teenager who liked listening to rapper 2pac and was close to her loving family of Tongan heritage.
They are now shocked the 18-year-old is facing 31 charges of refusing to answer Crime Commission questions about her teenage husband Sameh Bayda, also 18, who is in Goulburn Supermax prison facing terror charges.
She was asked by investigators: “What do you mean by ‘I want to do an Islamic Bonnie and Clyde on the kaffir’?” and if she would sacrifice herself alongside her husband.
The couple married on December 30 last year, weeks before Bayda was charged with three counts of collecting documents likely to facilitate terrorist acts.
Police prosecutor SergeantClint Nasr told Parramatta Local Court on Saturday: “The court needs to look behind the charges. There is a concern she is a supporter of ISIS. The accused was up to her eyeballs in what her husband was up to.”
Namoa first converted to Islam in Year 8 but reverted to Christianity briefly before beginning swearing to Allah around Year 10, friends remember.
She was raised with nine protective brothers and anyone who gave her trouble at The John Berne School was cautioned the Namoa brood would come after them if they did not treat her with respect.
“Towards the end of Year 10 she started (saying) I swear to Allah,” her friend said. After leaving the Lewisham school in Year 10, Namoa proudly declared her new faith in text messages to friends, telling them she prayed five times a day.
“I converted when I was in Year 8, then I went back to the church and now I’m back to Islam lmaoo-ooo”, Namoa texted a friend in January last year.
“… ha my family hates it but they can’t say cos my first cousins n mums sister is Muslim lol she married one n converted when they got married,” another text said.
Parramatta Local Court heard she suffers from anxiety.
“I’m just so shocked, I can’t believe what’s happened to her, I would never in a million years have picked it, especially with brothers like hers,” the friend said.
Namoa had appeared to look to the future. She completed two job-ready training programs while at secondary school: one that equipped her with the skills to work in a cafe and another that had a community service focus and led the Western Sydney girl to volunteer in the community.
But her world changed when she left school in Year 10.
A close female friend of Namoa, also of islander heritage, has also converted to Islam. “May Allah Subhanahu Wa Ta’ala free the oppressed,” the teen posted on Facebook after Namoa was refused bail in Parramatta Court on Saturday.
“Wallahs I never thought it’ll (sic) be this hard …”
Auburn Uniting Church Reverend Veitinia Waqabaca said he was concerned for other teens in the community. The church has a large Tongan congregation
“I am surprised (she converted) but … our people can take on another religion but we have to ask them what it is that they find attractive,” he said. “We can only sit them down, these kids are very clever and help them see all the terrorism in the world and point out that it is only one religion that it is associated with and to stay away from that religion.”…

Singh the Sikh says
Have to give credit to the religion of peace for its ability to inspire and spread hatred and bring out the murderous urge in those it manges to convert. Even happy go lucky Pacific Islanders fall under the spell. In this respect the aptly named religion of ‘peace’ is the leader and stands heads and shoulders above all other major religions in the world.
Charli Main says
These people are already deranged closet psychopaths, waiting for something like Islam to bring their innate psychopathy to the surface.
Islam is a magnet for the clinically insane.
Pere LaChaise says
This girl has become psychotic under demonic influence, proving that Islam is the worship of Satan. In Catholicism her incipient psychosis would not find violent expression. Only the satanic cult of Islam can achieve such ruin of a person so quickly.
The modern era of openness and tolerance for Islam in our midst must end, or this naivety will end our civilization, beginning with the destruction of our families from intermarriage with moslem men. This has always been their modus operandi; ask any Copt, Greek or Serb what it means to ‘go Turk’. It means the loss of Christian identity and its replacement by satanic rage, focused on those who do not conform to terms of demonic possession expressed in the violent tenets of Islam.
Not for no good reason have all the historic Churches East & West forbid marriage to heretics and unbelievers. Liberal priests and bishops who bend rules to accommodate the whims of rich parishioners will be severely chastened at the Reckoning for opening the gates to the Enemy of Mankind embedded in the mind and soul of a potential spouse.
Christian parents – forbid your children from marrying moslems! Even what masquerades as love is a weapon of our adversary.
Charli Main says
We are 100% on the same wavelength, although the ” there is no God ” and ” I don´t believe in fairies ” brigade will no doubt scoff at people of faith.
Annak says
I heard a shocking report from a friend here where I am living for the moment, the Netherlands. She saw a documentary about a mass conversion of Dutch and Belgian girls to Islam. The highest in Europe.
Also, a woman she knows told her that her son said ” every single one of my friends from the technical University married Muslims. They only see their conversion as a ” legal piece of paper”.
These are the children of the liberal tolerant Dutch of the seventies who en- masse left the Christian church and embraced leftist values to the extreme including discarding marriage for living together. They must be happy their kids became Muslims though, as long as not Christian?
Mick R says
“happy go lucky Pacific Islanders”
You must be kidding. All Australian parents know Islanders are among the most violent tribal groups in the schools, usually warring with the New Zealand Maoris or against the European Aussies.
Islanders and Aboriginal Australians are the two ethnic groups on this continent most likely to be attracted to Islam for the sense of tribal superiority it engenders.
mortimer says
Rev. Veitinia Waqabaca said about Islamic terrorism, “(we) point out that it is ONLY ONE RELIGION that it is associated with…”
Refreshingly truthful and straightforward.
I suppose no one will accuse her (an Aboriginal) of being a RACIST!
I keep forgetting what ‘race’ is synonymous with Islam…perhaps, Arab racial supremacism.
Ray G. Cunningham says
Sorry Mortimer, an ‘Aboriginal’ is an indigenous Australian native, She is Tongan, from what is, or was, affectionately called the “Friendly Islands,” in the Pacific Ocean.
This one’s not so friendly.
BTW What’s this ‘year eight’ and ‘year ten’ business, they are blathering on about in the article?
Is it her age, or her year at school, or what? With all the changes, this place is starting to seem more and more like an alien world to this eighty two year old – or should my age now be, ‘year 82?’
As an Australian might succinctly describe her, “The woman’s a bloody drongo!”
Maryanne says
In New South Wales high schools the grades are numbered as ‘years’. So first year of high school is Year 7-for children aged around 11-12. Year 10 is the last year of junior high school, and Years 11 and 12 are the senior high school years.
Ray Cunningham says
Maryanne, thank you so much for clearing up that little mystery for me.
At 82, most of my school years were spent with Uncle Adolf doing his best to bump me off in the Blitz and later, when that didn’t work (as I was a nippy nipper), with Doodle Bugs and V2 rockets., etc.
Maybe some Islamist retard might have better luck in the future.
Ray.
JMB says
I should also point out that the Uniting Church in Australia is a VERY left leaning organisation. It is the remnant of the once great and generally Godly Methodist Church of Australia which decided to shoot itself in the feet some 40 years ago. (But that is another story)
The Uniting Church has many Tongans and Pacific islanders among it’s members, many are really nice people, it also has feminist left wingers among it’s clergy!
ICH says
yes very brave of him
made me happy !
Westman says
Aboriginal – I thought so at first then re-read and found, “..was close to her loving family of Tongan heritage.”
When I was in New Zealand I met a number of Tongans who were the most pleasant and peaceful of people. I still remember the group I met getting together after supper and singing songs in beautiful harmony, literally an acapella choir.
I’m having difficulty imagining a Tongan as a Jihadist. Sad.
Charli Main says
Thankfully, you did not meet them, in the not to distant past.
Tongans had a penchant for hacking people up into little bits and eating them. I wonder if Allah AKA Mohammed would have approved.
Ref: An account of the nature of the Tonga Islands. William Mariner & Dr. John Martin.
Westman says
The Maori could compete with them in that past.
WorkingClassPost says
A quick wiki of 2pac is interesting. She obviously did not convert from any religious conviction, but simply warmed to a violent and highly political ideology – coincidentally called Islam.
gravenimage says
Yes–she was into violent Gangsta Rap and the ‘thug life” even before she converted to Islam. And while Tupac Shakur was not Muslim per se, his name is clearly influenced by the Black Muslim movement.
His mother was a member of the Black Panthers–as were several other members of his family. She was on trial for bombings and other terrorism.
Dom107 says
Probably a youth thing like in the 60s they wanted to be revolutionaries to shock their parents and society
She will probably grow out of it if she survives
Guest says
I’ve been hoping that very much. How long can it take the girls to notice that they become oppressed domestic sex slaves wearing black sacks?
zulu says
The Bible is more violent than the Qur’an according to this article. Isn’t it funny how this women is mis-interpreting her new religion http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/violence-more-common-in-bible-than-quran-text-analysis-reveals-a6863381.html
WorkingClassPost says
This is tosh. It’s based on computer counting words, no mention of the algorithms used to determine context or meaning, so all the allala is merciful only to muslims crap will show up as false-positive. And will euphemisms like ‘being ‘harsh to unbelievers’ be properly translated to ‘cut off their f#**ing heads’?
Michael Copeland says
The Bible does not form part of Western law.
Denying a verse in the Bible is not a death-penalty offence.
Carolyne says
And while the Old Testament does indeed have violence, it is a history of the Jewish people-partly history, partly legend, and it does not exhort anyone to follow its violence.
atheist7 says
Yes the God of the Old Testament is truly a God that Muhammad could set up as his role model. Genocide, Infanticide, death for disobedience. If you want violence, then that is the God for you. Fortunately, today, everyone – even those of the Westborough Baptist Church – ignore the violence of the Old Testament. With Islam, you cannot ignore the violence. You cannot ignore the doctrine that demands total conversion of everyone – eventually – to Islam. There is no separation of Church and State. There is only total submission.
gravenimage says
Yes, zulu–never mind that many of the references in the Bible–particularly in the New Testament–are urging people *not* to murder or be violent. But the computer program would still count this as a “hit”.
atheist7 says
The forces that drive people to Islam is something that merits a lot of study. It is easy to see why most religious people have the religion of their parents – but to reject your initial religion and adopt a new doctrine needs to be examined in detail. The following reference might be a good place to start: http://www.iqrasense.com/uncategorized/what-drives-people-to-convert-to-islam.html
Here we have two pages – sounding good – but saying essentially nothing.
WorkingClassPost says
Sounds (and smells) like shit to me – written by a muzzie, so what’s new!
gravenimage says
Of course, that article is all bs–thanks for posting the link, Atheist7.
The idea that Islam–which despises reason and even violently discourages the asking of questions–employs “critical thinking” is just laughable.
Interestingly, even a commenter chides the author on this, saying, “logic and reasoning didn’t enter my head even once during my reversion…”–I’m sure this is *quite* true.
The truth is that most converts to Islam are violent losers. Da’wa is especially effective in prisons. And in the story above, we have a high-school drop-out who was already drawn to violent Gangsta Rap.
Atheist7 says
Thanks Gravenimage, Let us expand on this a bit:
What message could evangelical Muslims be sending so that people will be converted to Islam? First we need a good speaker. Someone who is engaging, charismatic, inspirational, informative, and eloquent. Enter Abdur-Raheem Green. This guy is fun to listen to. In his recruitment video he carries you along with entertaining stories and you come away with the idea that to be a Muslim is really a good thing an you will be a much better person. For me, he is particularly entertaining because he creates the illusion that Islam is pure goodness by totally ignoring the dualistic nature of Islam. I was particularly fascinated by his description of how respectful Islam is to women and how you can newer thank your mother enough for giving birth to you. Without an awareness of Islam’s political agenda, it is easy so see how a person could fall into his trap. Check out the following video. You can avoid the “nails on the blackboard” music by clicking forward. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RePRTTrDVMk
gravenimage says
Yes, Atheist–Abdur-Raheem Green is quite the Da’wa artist, appealing to (relatively) rational Westerners.
But he is no “moderate”–he is a polygamist and a 9/11 “Truther” who denies that the Twin Towers were brought down by Jihad terrorists.
But while he implausibly denies Jihad terror here, he is actually a supporter, having said, “including that Muslims and westerners cannot live peaceably together and that dying while fighting jihad is one of the surest ways to paradise and Allah’s good pleasure.”
He is also a vicious antisemite, and has said that gay people and female adulterers should be *stoned to death*.
Ugly, ugly stuff.
Michael Copeland says
She got in touch with her inner savage.
Nothosaur says
…”the 18-year-old is facing 31 charges of refusing to answer Crime Commission questions”
Could this be what it seems? What in the world is that?!?
I thought that Western societies abandoned / abolished “compelled testimony” or “compelled statements” long ago. Not since the Star Chamber of the late 1400s to mid-1600s did Western Law strongly desire to compel a person to be a witness against himself. In the U.S., our 5th Amendment privilege against self-incrimination has protected us since the late 18th century in this regard.
Is there an Australian lawyer who can explain this? I hope it’s not what it seems.
WorkingClassPost says
The ‘Right to remain silent’is fairly universal in the West, but so are laws against the ‘Obstruction of justice’.these do not usually involve simply not answering questions but the Australian Crime Commission is specifically setup to tackle ‘serious and organised crime’ (Islamic terrorism it seems) so there maybe other specifics in this case that someone closer to the source can tell us. ianal
gravenimage says
*Really*, Nothosaur? Here we have a story about a Muslim convert wanting to mass-murder Infidels, and your greatest concern is that civilized Australia is persecuting the ‘poor thing’ by bringing charges against her?
11B40 says
Greetings:
But, unfortunately, the “kaffir” doesn’t want to do a “Bonnie and Clyde” on you.
Angemon says
DaveJ says
“Islam is a magnet for the clinically insane” So true.
It also attracts anyone nursing a resentment, the mentally ill, criminals and psychopaths because it plainly offers a shield and approval of violent and hateful behavior.
The key is that both “moderates” and “extremists” read exactly the same book, which teaches them all that violence against certain groups and individuals is more than acceptable – it is now their religious duty. This is why the Koran should be banned as the evil hate speech that it is.
Its not so much individual Muslims that are the problem (even tho many are very big problems), it is the ideology itself. Cracking down on the Koran would go a long way towards facilitating a “religious dialogue”.
Atheist7 says
I suggest that our mission should be to encourage the study of the Koran so that its dual nature can be exposed.
worldcitizen1919 says
She appears to be more interested in the boy than religion.
To be religious means to be pious, godly and spiritual. To be virtuous is “Possessing or showing virtue in life and conduct; acting with moral rectitude or in conformity with moral standards and principles; free from vice, immorality, or wickedness; upright, good, righteous.’ (Oxford)
This girl was clearly attracted towards criminality not religion and had turned away from true religion which is to be virtuous and free from wickedness.
It largely depends on whose definition of religion one follows but the Bahai definition of religion is belief goes hand in hand with leading a virtuous, righteous and upright life and being of service to humanity so in this respect this girl is turned towards irreligion as she is supporting and covering up crime.
If she is attracted to the ‘dark side’ then that’s her own fault as she has plenty of good decent family members but is turning towards ungodly people who promote crime and terrorism.
Why a Christian would join terrorists is because they would be attracted to crime.
If they are not attracted towards crime and just join Islam for belief it could be due to the fact that they believe Muhammad was a Prophet as well as there being a lot more guidance and structure in Islam than Christianity. The laws of prayer, fasting and pilgrimage etc are clear in the Quran but with the Bible each sect follows its own rulings with regards to these things as well as laws like divorce. So Islam has more laws and structure where one may feel they have an identity whereas Christians are divided into over 25,000 sects and which tends to confuse as each sect argues it has the only correct version of truth.
But anyone who turns towards criminality is irreligious regarding of whatever religion they profess.
gravenimage says
More from Muslim apologist “worldcitizen1919”:
She appears to be more interested in the boy than religion.
To be religious means to be pious, godly and spiritual.
……………………………….
This is true. But what “worldcitizen1919” will not tell you is that in Islam being “pious, godly, and spiritual” includes murdering Infidels:
Here’s just one such example:
“Hamas: ‘Killing Jews is worship that draws us close to Allah’”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/11/hamas-killing-jews-is-worship-that-draws-us-close-to-allah
More:
It largely depends on whose definition of religion one follows but the Bahai definition of religion is belief goes hand in hand with leading a virtuous, righteous and upright life and being of service to humanity…
……………………………….
Yes, indeed. But this girl *did not* convert to Baha’i–she converted to Islam.
More:
If they are not attracted towards crime and just join Islam for belief it could be due to the fact that they believe Muhammad was a Prophet as well as there being a lot more guidance and structure in Islam than Christianity. The laws of prayer, fasting and pilgrimage etc are clear in the Quran but with the Bible each sect follows its own rulings with regards to these things as well as laws like divorce. So Islam has more laws and structure where one may feel they have an identity…
……………………………….
In other words, despite “worldcitizen1919’s” constant claim that Baha’i respect all religions, he actually believes the rigid sanguinary horror of Islam is superior to peaceful Christianity. This should surprise no one here, given his constant defense of the violent Qur’an and the baleful warlord Muhammed.
More:
But anyone who turns towards criminality is irreligious regarding of whatever religion they profess.
……………………………….
But what civilized people deem criminality is a an intrinsic part of Islam, so criminal behavior is actually perfectly Islamic. That is why it is so widespread among Muslims.
Atheist7 says
To complicate matters further, another factor might be female hero-worship of the Alpha Male. Many women like “bad boys” and have written love letters to serial killers on death row. For some, killing and violence is a “turn on”. And Bonnie Parker may not have been that bad. Check out http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/real-bonnie-clyde-history-been-2239712
worldcitizen1919 says
You know what I’m talking about. A truly religious person doesn’t kill people for sport so that excludes terrorists. They’re religious in name only.
gravenimage says
Sadly, some women *are* dysfunctionally attracted to violent thugs. Islam is tailor-made for this.
gravenimage says
Why does “worldcitzen1919” keep spewing his Taqiyya here?
Jihadists are not “killing people for sport”–they are killing people to terrorize unbelievers and spread Islam, which is perfectly religious if the
religion in question is Islam.
Infidel from Down Under says
The Uniting Church in Australia have been controversially among the most supportive of all organisations to muslims preaching tolerance and inclusiveness while campaigning for a greater (muslim) refugee intake so I found the Reverends statement here quite confusing if not contradictory
This Church in recent years has become highly political taking far left wing positions on everything from climate change,indigenous matters to the Israel /Palestinian situation. The leadership of the Uniting Church mostly just don’t get it, that Islam has zero tolerance for those of different beliefs
Matthieu Baudin says
“…We can only sit them down, these kids are very clever and help them see all the terrorism in the world and point out that it is only one religion that it is associated with and to stay away from that religion.’…”
Refreshingly direct comments from the Uniting Church Reverend. Wish we had more of it.
Michael says
But I thought islam was a religion of peace, shouldnt then converts to islam be more peaceful? For some strange reason, they usually become more violent and more lust to kill non-muslims.
sidney penny says
‘The churches aren’t even doing that. While Muslims aggressively proselytize among Christian youth and turn them into jihad killers, they do nothing beyond pursuing a chimerical and fruitless “dialogue” with Muslim leaders that doesn’t do a thing to stop what happened to Alo-Bridget Namoa.”
” chimerical and fruitless “dialogue” with Muslim leaders that doesn’t do a thing to stop what happened to Alo-Bridget Namoa.””
I agree.
Question for everyone ,
What things one has to do to stop what happened to Alo-Bridget Namoa?
Mark A says
Good role models. Bonnie and Clyde were both psychopaths and it sounds like this kid has those tendencies as well.
This wannabe would do well to remember what happened to Bonnie and Clyde in the end. If in doubt, watch the movie.