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Egypt: Christian students on trial for insulting Islam — for mocking the Islamic State

Feb 2, 2016 8:03 am By Robert Spencer

“The 30-second video, filmed by the teacher, showed the students pretending to pray with one kneeling on the floor while reciting Quranic verses and two others standing behind him and laughing. One waved his hand under a second’s neck in a sign of beheading.” This was clearly mockery of the Islamic State beheading videos. We are always told that the Islamic State has nothing to do with Islam, and that all Muslims reject it. If that were the case, these high school students wouldn’t be on trial.

Islamic State beheading Kurds

“Egyptian students stand trial for insulting Islam,” Associated Press, February 1, 2016 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

CAIRO: Three Coptic Christian students face charges of insulting Islam and will stand trial this week after appearing in a video mocking Muslim prayers, one of a series of court cases that reflect lingering religious intolerance and Muslim-Christian tensions in Egypt.

The students, all in high school, will stand trial on Thursday after their teacher was sentenced to three years in prison after a separate trial over the same charges of insulting Islam, according to lawyer Maher Naguib.

The 30-second video, filmed by the teacher, showed the students pretending to pray with one kneeling on the floor while reciting Quranic verses and two others standing behind him and laughing. One waved his hand under a second’s neck in a sign of beheading.

Naguib said the video came to light in April 2015, shortly after ISIS militants in Libya beheaded dozens of Egyptian Christians. The video prompted calls by angry Muslims to evict the students and the teacher from their village. They were detained and the teacher and his family were ordered to leave the village after a meeting of the village elders.

“The students couldn’t attend school and remained indoors to avoid insults, beating and harassment,” said Naguib, the lawyer. “This is all because of random and spontaneous action by some youngsters inside a bedroom and for only few seconds.”…

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Filed Under: blasphemy, Coptic Christians, Egypt, Featured, Islamic State (aka ISIS, ISIL, Daesh), Islamic supremacism Tagged With: Maher Naguib


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  1. john spielman says

    Feb 2, 2016 at 8:52 am

    the problem with islam is that it is not mocked often enough. it must be mocked as often as possible so that its adherents will learn that we will not tolerate its fascist tenets being forced upon us to subdue us.

    • Voytek Gagalka says

      Feb 2, 2016 at 4:31 pm

      Agree. How utterly ridiculous is a sight of Allahist rising his arse in opposition to Mecca to worship a deity he is never ever allowed to imagine how “it” is looking like, as he is forbidden on pain of immediate death to imagine (and visually describe) his own “beloved prophet”! Death worshipers they are, and nothing but death and destruction is a result.

    • TH says

      Feb 3, 2016 at 1:58 pm

      Don’t forget that Quomeni said that there is “no fun in Islam”, neither do they like dogs and a long etcetera.

    • David says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 6:21 am

      Agree. The way to defeat Islam is to show it for what it is.

    • Con Ken says

      Feb 16, 2016 at 9:20 am

      Wonder what that egypts govts address is, seems to me that it is time to flood that govts office with lots of pictures of the truth of Islam, starting with the pedophile Mohammad!

  2. pdxnag says

    Feb 2, 2016 at 9:05 am

    Can we just call them the Egypt branch of ISIS? Islam is universally evil everywhere.

    • t. says

      Feb 2, 2016 at 9:44 am

      Actually there is already a real operating branch for ISIS in Egypt, which beheaded many people. Some of those gruesome beheadings videos were posted on the internet.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 2, 2016 at 10:33 am

        I don’t believe there have actually been ISIS beheadings right in Egypt, t.–but infamously the Islamic State in Libya beheaded twenty-one Egyptian Coptic Christians there last year. The Egyptian Copts had come to Libya to find work.

        The Egyptian Coptic students in this article were almost certainly protesting this atrocity.

        • t. says

          Feb 3, 2016 at 2:05 pm

          In the Sinai peninsula. Have a look, gravenimage, at some previous posts on this site and that of Raymond Ibrahim, from last year.

  3. Nimrod says

    Feb 2, 2016 at 9:36 am

    When are Muslims going to figure out that Islam is a self-insulting religion? Nobody really has to do much to “insult” it except recite scripture and point out the Muslims who do the best job of following the most insulting parts.

    The Quran and Hadith do a pretty good job of insulting Islam. Maybe they should be banned.

    • t. says

      Feb 2, 2016 at 9:56 am

      Absolutely true, Nimrod!

      The truth is that anytime the reality of Islam or any of its genuine manifestations through applying of Sharia by its faithful followers, is brought to the consciousness of Muslims by especially the non Muslims, the former become insulted!

  4. David says

    Feb 2, 2016 at 10:02 am

    Islam is an insult to every thinking, civilized or educated human on the planet! It is a satanic CURSE that is trying to envelope and destroy all civilization, everywhere.
    Why our lunatic political leaders continue to tolerate it AND let it spread into our own peaceful and civilized nations is beyond comprehension!!!
    INSULTING islam? On the contrary, it is islam that is the most grotesque insult to the entire world!
    “Put THAT, in your pipe, and smoke it”
    (A favorite quote from my Grand Dad)

  5. gravenimage says

    Feb 2, 2016 at 10:28 am

    Egypt: Christian students on trial for insulting Islam — for mocking the Islamic State
    ………………………………

    So insulting the Islamic State is “insulting Islam”?

    Many foolish Infidels assume that Muslim scholars are universal in their condemnation of the ISIS, but such is *not* the case. Here’s Al Azhar, the greatest seat of Sunni learning, based in Egypt:

    “Al-Azhar refuses to consider the Islamic State an apostate”

    http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/en/originals/2015/02/azhar-egypt-radicals-islamic-state-apostates.html#

    More:

    “The students couldn’t attend school and remained indoors to avoid insults, beating and harassment,” said Naguib, the lawyer. “This is all because of random and spontaneous action by some youngsters inside a bedroom and for only few seconds.”…
    ………………………………

    What these Christians would have received insults, beatings, and harassment for is for daring to object to their coreligionists being beheaded for not being Muslim.

    So much for Egypt being “moderate” under Al-Sisi–or perhaps anything short of beheading Christians these days *is* considered “moderate”.

    God, I hate Islam.

  6. mortimer says

    Feb 2, 2016 at 10:58 am

    Vigilantism is normative Islam, rather than an aberration. Sharia law authorizes ANYONE to commit murder of someone who ‘mentions something impermissible’ about Islam. The Sharia law provision is meant to stop ‘verbal fighting’ against Islam which is considered MORE OF A CRIME AGAINST ISLAM than physically fighting Muslims. The death sentence applies and mercy is not permitted.

    Western elites have not studied Sharia law and so they are unaware of the EXISTENTIAL THREAT that Sharia poses to the West. Vigilantism is the DIRTY, SECRET WEAPON of Islam.

    Western elites are unaware of Islamic VIGILANTISM to OUR GREAT PERIL.

    Western elites have read nothing of Islamic source texts, and yet, they present themselves as authorities on Islam. We are led by arrogant fools.

    • Adrian says

      Feb 2, 2016 at 11:27 am

      Excellent points, mortimer

      the Quran injunction against any “mischief” towards Islam opens a can of possibilities as wide as the ocean…

  7. nacazo says

    Feb 2, 2016 at 11:09 am

    All Christians… Let’s firebomb the Egyptian embassy… oh wait! we’re not muslim….

    Nevermind…. let’s send some letters.

  8. wallace says

    Feb 2, 2016 at 12:14 pm

    I have spent the last couple of hours readin Sahi Muslim ( The Hour) my brain now hurts, no person in their right mind can believe such unadulterated shit. I would make Cameron read the lot , he would lose the will to live.

    • WorkingClassPost says

      Feb 2, 2016 at 1:29 pm

      Would that were the case.

      He’d probably believe every word, then turn around and say, ‘There, look. I told you so.’

  9. Jack Diamond says

    Feb 2, 2016 at 1:09 pm

    Muslim Egypt is imposing dhimmitude and putting the Copts in their place with a show trial. Nothing new here, just the idea that the conditions of dhimmitude could ever change (as if the Muslim Brotherhood were the sole problem and al-Sisi the solution) and Copts could now freely “offend” their Muslim “betters” without consequence. It is “mocking” Islamic prayers and using verses from the Qur’an that seems to have put them in hot water. Islamic law has not disappeared or been declared null and void, and the dhimmi have no intrinsic right to life, let alone to freedom of speech, both are entirely conditional– with a sword, metaphorical and literal, always over their necks. If not from the state then from the crowd. It will be interesting to see how this plays out in Egypt (al-Sisi) and how tolerant (and apathetic) world opinion will continue to be of Islamic intolerance. Copts aren’t just the victims of the Islamic State.

  10. salim says

    Feb 2, 2016 at 2:21 pm

    What many people don’t know is that charges related to defaming religion are higher since Sissi assumed power in Egypt (compared to when the islamist president Mursy was in power) . Last year, Sissi referred to reformation but those who dared to delve into the subject were defamed and jailed (like Bihery and Na’oot).
    Sissi (who has a zabiba on his forehead) is an islamist in disguise.

  11. Dan Jones says

    Feb 2, 2016 at 2:58 pm

    Lord we pray you give your children strength in this hour of their need…

    More End Time News At:
    http://www.shininginthedark.com/?page_id=4526

  12. Champ says

    Feb 2, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    “Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good.” — Romans 12:9

    Yes — I hate “evil” islam/isis, and they deserve being mocked.

  13. Matthieu Baudin says

    Feb 2, 2016 at 11:31 pm

    “…CAIRO: Three Coptic Christian students face charges of insulting Islam and will stand trial this week after appearing in a video mocking Muslim prayers, one of a series of court cases that reflect lingering religious intolerance and Muslim-Christian tensions in Egypt…”

    The refreshing reformist statements of President Sisi seem to have made no significant inroads into the Islamic landscape of Egypt. Does he have anything in reserve to back up his words and commitment?

    • Nimrod says

      Feb 3, 2016 at 5:46 am

      I’m of the opinion that sisi’s remarks aren’t that significant and that the belief that they are is due to a failure to understand the culture. The culture is such that people there expect everyone to be BSing each other constantly and talk isn’t taken very seriously. So people just go yea yea whatever and nod their heads. This isn’t taqiyya per se since it’s usually more related to individuals pursuing their own agendas rather than Islam vs kuffar, so it is more like generalized self-serving BS.

      In other words, in this culture actions don’t just speak louder than words, words don’t speak at all and only action does.

      If al sisi wanted to make any real changes then he’d need to do something like start up a department of the now extinct mutazili school of theology at al Azar and give it special consideration plus funding, or some other formalized “reopening of the doors of inquiry”.

      Unless something like this happens then whatever al sisi says is just more BS. The rule of thumb must be: words don’t speak only action does.

      • Jack Diamond says

        Feb 3, 2016 at 12:43 pm

        True as far as it goes, the BS culture. But talk is taken seriously when it concerns Islam & Muhammad and where blasphemy and apostasy charges are considered more than just BS. That’s why al-Sisi separated “the religion” from the “thinking” of the ulema in his criticisms. He may actually believe that but he would also risk his life by going further. Because words about Islam do matter. A goofy video “insulting” Islam does matter. Al-Sisi won’t change any of that.

        As to the other suggestion, the followers of Mu’tazili theology had no problems, either, with inquisitions and with persecuting and killing their opponents. If anything they were worse fanatics. Nor are the reasons they lost the argument any different now. Jihad is fixed and it is not a matter for Ijtihad. It is considered a Right of Allah, hukm shari, an obligation on all believers that is non-negotiable and not a matter for “independent reasoning.” The problem with Islam is foundational not the later debates of the ulema.

        • Jack Diamond says

          Feb 3, 2016 at 12:56 pm

          The Mu’tazili embraced Jihad, they didn’t reject it. I’m just making the point that Jihad is theologically beyond the scope of any new “opening of the doors” of inquiry and independent reasoning.

  14. Lioness says

    Feb 3, 2016 at 5:05 pm

    Well, it’s similar in the West, you cannot mock islam. You can mock Christianity, you can demonize Israel, but no, you cannot mock islam. If you do you may lose your job or even your freedom. In Canada they will haul you in front of the Human Rights Commission kangaroo court, there you will spend your life savings defending yourself. You may win at the end, but by then you have no money, no job and you are a social pariah that everyone shuns. So only minor differences between Egypt and Canada. And with Trudeau at the helm, we are heading in the direction of Egypt sooner rather than later.

  15. TomKat says

    Apr 15, 2016 at 1:52 pm

    What is Good for the Goose is Good for the Gander !!! Let’s put Muslims on trial for Mocking Christians . Deport them for their illegal immigration , and Prosecute them without mercy just like they do Westerners !!!
    Then they won’t want to come to the west and free load on the successes of Hard Working , God Fearing Christians .

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