These churchmen are courageous enough to note this problem when most of their colleagues are encouraging it to grow larger. But what do they think will happen when these Muslim refugees are fully settled in Germany? Do they think they will stop persecuting Christians then? Europe is committing suicide before our eyes.
“Christian refugees are under threat from other asylum seekers, says German bishop,” Catholic Herald, February 19, 2016:
The Archbishop of Cologne has warned that Christian refugees are being threatened by other asylum seekers in refugee camps, according to a report in The Tablet.
Speaking at an ecumenical service in Dusseldorf last Saturday, Cardinal Rainer Woelki said: “Concern is growing that politicians and the authorities might not be taking such threats seriously enough. Christian persecution is not a topic of bygone ages,” he warned.
He said Germany must speak out more loudly for religious freedom rights, a right that Christians in Muslim countries also had. “That is what we demand,” Woelki said.
That kind of talk, if Woelki follows its logical progression, will lead him right into Islamic theology. It is virtually certain that he will not follow it that far.
Meanwhile, Gottfried Martens, a Protestant pastor told katholisch.de that the “mobbing” of Christian refugees in refugee camps in Germany was increasing.
He said it was no longer rare for entire Muslim communities in refugee shelters to threaten Christians.
He claimed that Christians had been forced to watch videos of beheadings, were barred from using the kitchen because they were “unclean” and had been beaten up and their crosses removed from their necks.
As a solution, he suggested accommodation Muslims and Christians separately. He said: “In our efforts to be tolerant, which are in themselves praiseworthy, we cannot just let Christians become some kind of guinea pigs.
I can hear Catholic bishops in Europe and the U.S. responding, “Oh, yes we can.”
“Whenever I talk to politicians, I’m told that the churches do not think that separate housing is necessary and I’m left looking stupid.”
Yes, the Church as a whole seems determined to ignore and deny the Muslim persecution of Christians.

ICH says
I cant believe beheading to them is no big deal
Makes Dexter look like a nerd
Ex-muslim says
If the Western governments and their postmodernist societies cannot protect Christian immigrants from the muslim jihadists they are importing from the islamic world then the next target for those hateful islamic jihadists will be the very Native Europeans/Americans who imported them. Actually, muslims have already started mass-raping of white women in Western Europe and it will only get worse.
Ex-muslim says
Can’t help but ask if the governments cannot protect Christians in Western Europe, what happen to Christians left in those countries? They are busy “building bridges” with muslims and importing more and more muslims etc.
Jay Boo says
European politicians and Pope Francis meanwhile caution against Donald Trump becoming President.
— The POLITICIANS fear that native born Europeans will escape to the US.
— The Islamo-Leftist pandering POPE FRANCIS lifted high upon his illicit moral high ground mantle to flaunt his supposed humility got put down a few notches when Donald Trump rightly called the Pope’s behavior of questioning Donald Trump’s Christianity disgraceful.
Ex-muslim says
MASS COMMON-SENSE REVOLUTION EVERY WHERE IN THE WEST IS THE ONLY ANSWER!
Marty says
The wet media liberals made a feast about a small boy who washed up dead.
Almost nothing about the sixteen Christians stabbed, strangled, rendered unconscious
while at sea by a gang of mohammedans. Then thrown overboard.
The leader was caught on CCTV in Northern Italy a few days later.
Coming to a town near you.
Mark Swan says
Was that child a Muslim or Christian?
Linde Barrera says
I wonder why the Germans don’t employ a type of medic/bouncer at these asylum centers to administer tranquilizer shots immediately when any Muslim shows freaky behavior. And of course the Muslims should be warned of this consequence upon arrival. Same treatment goes for anybody else.
Charli Main says
Move along—move along, nothing new to see here. The Muslim invaders of the Christian Middle East and Christian North Africa have been raping and murdering Christians in their ancestral homelands for the last 1400 years.
Only a retard would think that these inbred, mass murdering and raping Muslims are going to change their behaviour because they are in Europe.
When they have disposed of Middle Eastern Christians, they will start on the European ones. Oooops !!! silly me–they have already started raping and murdering European Christians.
Come on Pope Francis !!!!! time to accelerate the dialogue with your Muslim brothers.
Walter Sieruk says
That above picture of that refugee Muslim man hitting ,very hard. that German man in Germany shows many things. For example this exposes just how ungrateful and unthankful the really are to the German people for allowing them to enter Germany to live. This also exposes the brutal and violent mindset the many Muslim have because of their religion.The Muslims by the vicious action are also showing the limited of their reasoning power when it come to religion. Furthermore,by their lawless ruthless behavior they are also showing their awful arrogant contempt for all Westerner, and Western governments, Western laws and Western civilization..
bernie says
As someone has pointed out however, the modern, average Russian is not gratuitously violent or cruel, but Russians can be formidable opponents if you mess with them, and they don’t tolerate the ingratitude and porcine arrogance and violence of “rapefugees” as we saw a few weeks ago.
Mexico is another such culture. Most Mexicans are polite, generous and friendly; at the same time however, it’s not unusual to see fights involving guns, knives and baseball bats over some offense or another, and Islamofascist extremists are offensive. Someone mentioned this earlier and said, “It’s not just the Mexican drug gangs who can be like that.” (Nor just the Russian mafia in the case of Russia, one might add).
nicu says
The Christians escape from Muslim terror and are not save in a Christian country !
Thank you Merkel !
We should do like Poland : let only Christians in ! But they don’t make it here 🙁
Christianblood says
nicu
Germans and other EU countries are NOT Christian countries anymore! They are the Anti-Christ! Postmodernist moral relativism also known as (liberal democracy) is their new fanatical secular religion. These people hate Christianity the same as islamists hate Christianity and the two are working together. You want a Christian country? Go to Russia. Watch: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSX2ALtIejw
MrLogical says
Exactly. Nor Italy, France, Belgium, Spain…
All formerly very religious but now growing more secular each year and generation
Mike Proulx says
I think it should be quite clear to everyone what this is really all about by now.
The recent attack on Donald Trump by the Pope should speaks volumes to any Spirit filled Christian. Jesus warned us that the days would come in the end times, it should be of no surprise. Heaven and Earth shall pass away but my Word shall not pass away, says the Lord.
Pray that we may be worthy to escape the tribulations of theses days which are now on the horizon.
Jayell says
How long has this sort of thing been going on? And it’s still ‘news’?
gravenimageg says
I’m glad it’s being reported at all, Jayell.
DFD says
gravenimage says: “I’m glad it’s being reported at all..”
You are glad about it? Speaking for myself; I’m utterly amazed it’s being reported at all – given ‘our’ media.
Here’s a riddle I came across: If 8% of the Muslims are radicals and 92% are moderates, then why don’t the moderates stop the radicals from killing Christians, Jews etc. in the Muslim majority countries?
Shouldn’t be a problem with a more than 9:1 majority. Dialogue? Waste of time, get ready to fight. I know, I know, we are on the same wavelength. So I propose a duet:
God, we hate Islam…
Salute
celticwarriorcanada says
” In our efforts to be tolerant, which are in themselves praise worthy , ” TOLERANCE PRAISE WORTHY ” OH REALLY ! This kind of Multicultural Liberal ETHIC is not even found in the JUDAEO CHRISTIAN BIBLE . Certainly words Like” LONGSUFFERING” and” FORBEARANCE “and” MERCY” are BIBLICAL CONCEPTS DESCRIBED as Fruits of THE HOLY SPIRIT( GAL.6:22 ); Etc N.K.J.V And the Concept Of Social Justice ( more of an OLD TESTAMENT CONCEPT ) And even charity were MORE Directed to be Practiced Especially AMONGST the “HOUSE HOLD OF FAITH ” Gal.6:10, Jam.2:14-26 . The concept of Tolerance USED by these Leaders is more like the ideas put forth by Latin American Ecclesiastical Leaders like Oscar Romero , Gustav Gutierrez , AND in America the So called REVEREND Jeremiah Wright ! IN MY OPINION , The Apostle Paul has a Better Term to describe This CONCEPT OF TOLERANCE: THE APOSTASY Or FALLING WAY FROM THE CHRISTIAN FAITH( 2 THESS. 2:3 ) N.K. J. V. For THE PONTIFF To even SUGGEST that TRUMPS Views on IMMIGRATION is the LITMUS TEST OF HIS CHRISTIANITY is even more OUTRAGES THAN TRUMP IMAGINING HE CAN BE A CHRISTIAN WITHOUT ASKING FOR GOD’S FORGIVENESS !!!
Ajay says
the entire Europe requires a representative like Narendra Modi or Donald Trump. Only then can Europe can follow its sovereignty.
Dan Jones says
Christians all over the world (including America) will be hunted soon…
More End Time News At:
http://www.shininginthedark.com/?page_id=4526
gravenimage says
It’s already started here, Dan:
“American Muslims Stone Christians in Dearborn, Michigan”
http://www.clarionproject.org/news/american-muslims-stone-christians-dearborn-michigan
Angemon says
No longer rare? It shouldn’t have been allowed to happen once to begin with. The first time authorities knew for sure something like that was taking place, they should have kicked out the perpetrators of of their country with extreme prejudice and questioned themselves if that kind of “refugees” didn’t deserve the hellhole they were allegedly running away from, and whether or not they should allow people like that in their country.
Miao Zedong says
The ugly reaction is coming ever more often:
https://youtu.be/iRX6_BxQu2Y
Terror in the eyes of the “refugees”.
I don’t think that Germany will go the same way as the UK. Don’t be surprised, after all even socialim imbued Swedish societies has sown hate among it’s formerly docile citizenship.
somehistory says
Jesus said this persecution would happen and we are seeing it daily now that moslims are everywhere and the world knows the killing is happening, but does nothing to stop it (Matthew 24)…”The world has hated me, it will hate you also,” said Christ. (John15).
But, He also said the killing and persecution would end. Not because the world wakes up and wants to do right by Christians, but because He will stop it. (Matthew 25) (2Thess.)
gravenimage says
Germany: Entire Muslim communities threatening Christians in refugee camps
These churchmen are courageous enough to note this problem when most of their colleagues are encouraging it to grow larger. But what do they think will happen when these Muslim refugees are fully settled in Germany? Do they think they will stop persecuting Christians then? Europe is committing suicide before our eyes.
…………………………..
Yes. And note–this is not just a few “extremists”, but virtually the whole of the Muslim “community”.
Darryl Kerney says
so much for the “tiny” minority….
gravenimage says
And while Cardinal Rainer Woelki is doing the right thing here, he is *anything* but consistent in opposing Muslim savagery:
“After New Year’s Eve sex assaults by Muslim migrants, European Catholic bishops warn of rise of ‘right-wing’ & ‘Islamophobia’”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/02/after-new-years-eve-sex-assaults-by-muslim-migrants-european-catholic-bishops-warn-of-rise-of-right-wing-islamophobia
“Cardinal Rainer Woelki of Cologne condemned the sexual assaults outside his cathedral, but reserved most of his concern for threats from ‘right or brown circles.’”
“Brown” here refers to the Brown Shirts–in other words, that anyone concerned overmuch about Muslim rape is a Nazi.
And on January 5-6, Cardinal Rainer Woelki switched off the lights of Cologne Cathedral–not to protest the mass Muslim molestations, but to protest Pegida for daring to march against them,
Story is here:
http://www.catholicnews.com/services/englishnews/2015/german-catholics-criticize-anti-islam-marches-but-urge-understanding.cfm
dumbledoresarmy says
Maybe he is being ‘mugged by reality”.
At least he has begun to pay attention to the cries of the *Christians* – who really *are* refugees.
Let us pray that if he starts listening to *them*, he may wake up, completely, recognise what a fool he’s been, and… change. And start speaking out. That sort of thing can happen. There *is* such a thing as repentance.
Islamosavvy Germans need to contact this Bishop and *support* his speaking up on behalf of the persecuted Christians in the ‘refugee’ centres… and tell him WHY the Muslims are treating the Christians so badly.
Wherever there is a glimmering of awareness it has to be encouraged.
Mark A says
This particular Bishop is right on this issue but as JW notes elsewhere, he’s also saying there’s rising Islamophobia and “right wing” reaction to Muslim immigration which needs to be dealt with by overtures to Muslims.
It seems to me that this Bishop just can’t get his mind around the full picture here. This oppression of hristians is merely an example of what Muslims will do to all non-Muslims in Europe if Muslims become a majority in Europe or have sufficient numbers to practice this oppression on a larger scale.
I’m Catholic, and I’m dismayed that our Bishops, like this one, just don’t see the bigger picture here. If unchecked Muslim immigration to western countries continues, this oppression will not be restricted to refugee camps and shelters; it will be directed at all non Muslims in society at large,
The Catholic Church talks of “inter-faith dialogue” with Muslims. I think that’s ultimately futile. Islam’s view of “inter-faith dialogue” is made clear in Sura 9 of the Koran, which unambiguously says non-Muslims are to be given the choice of conversion to Islam, payment of the jizya with “willing submission”, or death.
Why our Catholic Bishops refuse to see that is incomprehensible to me.
dumbledoresarmy says
Well, the job of all of us within the Churches who have realised what Islam is and what the ummah is up to, is to screw up our courage, as laypeople, and **tell our leaders** what is what. We have to challenge our priests, our bishops, all our leaders. When we see them acting foolishly and dangerously – when we see them behaving like abject Dhimmis – we have to *correct* them. Courteously but unrelentingly. Pray for them… and tell them, politely, patiently, over and over again, that they are endangering their flocks, and explain why. And never give up. And pray, pray without ceasing.
dumbledoresarmy says
Dear German jihadwatchers (I know you read here, I have seen you posting from time to time): this is your chance.
Write to Cardinal Rainer Woelki. Write to Pastor Gottfried Martens. Thank them for speaking publicly of the plight of the suffering middle-eastern Christians who are being attacked and persecuted by the Muslims in the ‘refugee centres’. Real refugees – the Christians – being attacked by FAKE ‘refugees’ (Muslims). Explain to them why the Muslims are attacking the Christians.
Urge them to *keep on* speaking up. Urge them to speak louder. Get behind them and PUSH.
Express support for the idea of giving the Christians separate and secure accommodation. Press them to go further – press them to lobby the Government to give PRIORITY to bona fide Christian refugees. The Christians, together with the Yazidis (also non-Muslim) are *the* most endangered of all persons in Iraq and Syria. They *ought* to be receiving *all* the available humanitarian-visa places! Tell them about Barnabas Fund’s “Operation Safe Havens’ project and to lobby the German government to sign up for *that*… and tell the UN to go jump, like so, “We have only X places for refugees and we are assigning them ALL to the most endangered – the Christians and Yazidis”. Barnabas can vouch for the people they put forward – they *know* the Christian communities through and through, having worked with them for many decades, and can sort out real from fake.
The next PEGIDA march should have Iraqi and Syrian Christians in it, front and centre, with banners saying, “Safe Haven for Assyrian Christians”. “Take In the Persecuted: NOT the Persecutors” – and have speeches by some of those very same refugee Christians who have been attacked by Muslims on the boats, in the UN camps, and in the centres in Germany. Let them give their testimony, to show *why* non-Muslim refugees ONLY should be admitted and why Muslims should be rejected and kept out, henceforward, and why the non-citizen Muslims already present should be evicted and returned to sender.
Mark Swan says
I see this Immigration disaster…combined with other European difficulties as game changers.
Remember The German People…Never Underestimate Them…they have been known to go from one mode to a completely different mode rapidly and decisively…Look for a very Persuasive and Potent Leadership rising amongst them even now…so completely different from the present leadership…Watch Who is willing to ally with them…Other Countries Will Join Them…This may lead to a powerful organized multi-national alliance…The Roman Catholics…The Protestants…Eastern Orthodox can put aside any differences…watch what This Power Does…it could be so formable…and determined to project its strength economically and militarily…If the Middle East does form some Broad Leadership there…This Power may try to cooperate with this Middle Eastern leadership…until it is provoked…then watch the result…a whirlwind is coming.
There are still a substantial number of ethnic Germans in the countries that are now Germany and Austria’s neighbors to the east…Poland, the Czech Republic…Slovakia…Hungary…and Slovenia….In addition…there are…significant populations in such areas as Estonia…Latvia…Romania…Moldova…Ukraine…Russia and Kazakhstan.
Who Among these and who else may join in alliance with a strong Germanic leadership…time will tell…
as far as numbers…hundreds of millions could be the result…and in any strong show of strength….
they don’t get any tougher than these peoples…not to mention their exceptional grasp of technology.
The Modern State of Germany has been leading Europe by example…a Europe which combined into a economic powerhouse…They astonishingly came back to life (after WW2) and put there talents to real use…and they inspired and helped all the above to prosper…they are well respected by all…and very capable of inspiring others…they have the very qualities to rally the troops…the potential is very great…with the right leadership…they will lead a powerful event.
No one can predict the specific details of such Alliances…but easily see the potential if the known world leadership continues vacillating and conditions continue to worsen…a powerful motivator for a new union to dawn…not the union Europe is now…this new union can have a core group…and economically and militarily there will be others who want to share the benefits…change is coming.