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Hugh Fitzgerald: News From the Magic Kingdom

Feb 23, 2016 1:17 pm By Hugh Fitzgerald

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From Saudi Arabia comes the news that the mutaween, the feared religious police under the control of the Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice, who patrol the streets and regulate the daily life of the populace, are now being given five-day courses in how to recognize, and then how to neutralize, a small army of wizards, witches, ghosts, demons, fortunetellers in the Magic Kingdom. Apparently it’s a big problem. Why, there have even been reports of leprechaun-like creatures – possibly they’ve wandered down from the Old Sod to end up in the Empty Quarter – who find it great fun to persuade innocent Saudis to break the rules of Sharia. All these dealers in the magical and supernatural will be hunted down, and dealt with sternly, by the Saudi religious police — “sternly” can mean anything from long prison sentences to decapitation. Such worries are not new to the Saudis, however — the official anti-witchcraft unit within the Ministry of the Interior was first formed in May 2009.

The reason the Saudis are so worried about wizards and witches is that the Saudi people, like other Muslims, are especially vulnerable to the appeal of the occult. Muslims learn from the Qur’an that there exists an intelligent creature (the only other intelligent creature in the universe, according to Islamic doctrine, aside from humans and angels), called the Djinn (or Jinn), whose meddling with humans explains Evil, as well as health and illness, wealth and poverty, that Man as a creature of fate – where everything may be inshallah but is not necessarily hunky-dory — may enjoy or endure. Evil djinn — not all djinn in Islam are bad – can take possession of people and cause them to behave in wicked ways.

This is not foreign to, but part of, orthodox Islam. Fortunately, there are those who, after appropriate training, can become qualified exorcisers of the evil djinn, using special Qur’anically-approved healing methods. There are also those who have not undergone training to be exorcists and who use methods which have not been approved, and this gets them into trouble with officials even if their methods prove effective. The Saudi witchcraft-hunt offers us a glimpse of the Bizarro-World that we enter whenever we penetrate the world of Islam. In the West, we hardly bother to denounce those who claim to be witches and wizards, exorcists and fortunetellers, that is, all who lay claim to supernatural powers, because we know, as rational creatures, that they are frauds and fakes, they cannot possibly have these powers. And because we don’t believe any of that stuff, we don’t worry about them in this, our Western world, the dutiful child of the Enlightenment and rationalism. If we punish any fortunetellers or magicians at all, it’s only because they have charged for services we know are worthless and we want them to disgorge their ill-gotten gains. Witchcraft has not been taken seriously, i.e. as effective, since Salem, when outside it was 1692.

But in the Islamic world, magic (bad or black magic and good magic) is everywhere and taken very seriously – i.e., thought to be effective – indeed. In the Islamic world, belief in witchcraft, magic, sorcery of all kinds, is widespread. Fear of black magic is pervasive. Fortunetellers, witches and wizards, exorcists of bad djinn are to be found everywhere. And this is because Magic and the Occult are very much a part of Muslim teachings and Muslim life.

The Occult – the Djinn – transmitted by the Qur’an, helps to explain the widespread belief in other kinds of sorcery and magic in the Muslim world. But it is not the whole explanation for that belief. The heightened vulnerability of Muslims to the promise and threat of assorted wizards, fortunetellers, sorcerers, and exorcists, as compared to the sturdy resistance of rational Western man, is to be explained also by the more general effect of Islam’s encouragement of the habit of mental submission, and its punishment of skepticism. A good Muslim never questions any of the teachings of Islam, and the observant Muslim state (as Saudi Arabia certainly is) punishes those Muslims who dare to demonstrate the least display of skepticism (the end-point of that skepticism is apostasy, punishable by death). The result is that Muslims, even without the whole business of the Djinn, inhabit a mental universe of encouraged credulity. And as the latest news with which I began this post reveals, the most comically extreme example of this Bizarro World has a local habitation and is better known, to most of us, by its Rand-McNally Atlas name – Saudi Arabia.

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  1. Charlie in NY says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 1:32 pm

    There has to be a psy-ops way of using this belief in evil djinns against ISIS, Boko Haram, Hezbollah, Hamas and their fellow travelers. If properly done, they change their behavior to avoid these djinns and chase their tails, so to speak. If they reject these “djinns,” they risk being exposed as un-Islamic, thereby losing their legitimacy. After all, belief in djinns is mandated by the religion.
    What could such a project look like?

    • Davegreybeard says

      Feb 23, 2016 at 1:39 pm

      @ Charlie in NY
      “There has to be a psy-ops way of using this belief in evil djinns…”

      My thoughts exactly. My god you could have fun with this!

      • Mark Swan says

        Feb 23, 2016 at 6:58 pm

        Lots of Fun.

      • Lia Wissing says

        Feb 24, 2016 at 3:25 am

        Would this tie in with the arabs say the Israelis are doing? They slip into one’s house & remove one of a pair of shoes; they change the individual teabags on one’s canister for a different brand; they train dolphins & birds of prey as spies, they train sharks to catch Egyptians; they send scores of HIV+ young women into Gaza to corrupt & infect pure young muslim men; they send scores of wild pigs into Gaza to terrify these same pure muslims (but comes dawn neither girls nor pigs are to be found). Or does all this not count? Any new ideas will be welcomed.

        • Jay Boo says

          Feb 24, 2016 at 12:50 pm

          Muhammad worshipped jinn spirits as attested to by Islam’s very own Satanic Verses.

          As a defense against blasphemy, Muhammad said he was tricked by Satan.
          Which proves beyond all doubt …

          The Qur’an — recited by Muhammad but written by Satan.

        • Denis MacEoin says

          Feb 24, 2016 at 2:30 pm

          Lia, it may be worth adding here that a majority of modern Muslim apocalyptic literature revolves around Jews, Zionists, and Israel. There is a vast amount on these subjects, linked to hopes for the destruction of Israel and the Jewish people, and also linked to prophecies about the coming end of the world, the appearnce of the Mahdi and the Antichrist (Dajjal), the first and second destruction of the Jews, the Six-Day War and all the rest, sometimes linked to Western apocalyptic theory, UFOs, and the work of the jinn. There’s an excellent scholarly study of this material by David Cook. Something like ‘Modern Islamic Apocalyptic Literature’. Well worth a look.

      • Biff H says

        Feb 24, 2016 at 12:12 pm

        My God loves the evangelist and would find any enterprise that lead souls down a darker path to be an abomination. Your talking ends – what men desire – justifying the means.

    • billybob says

      Feb 23, 2016 at 6:13 pm

      Funny – that was also one of the first things that came to mind. There certainly are many ways to exploit people’s superstitions, and this has been done historically.

      My field is technology, and an idea comes to my mind. There is a way of using a beam of ultrasound, that can be transmitted from up to thousands of yards away – like from someone hiding atop a tall building… One can project this beam down to a focal point immediately behind a person’s head, who may be walking down the street, for example. Now if this beam of ultrasound is modulated by an audio frequency, such as perhaps, a human voice, it will sound like someone is whispering in his ear. In short – sound like an invisible Jinn.

      Furthermore, a laser beam may be projected from a drone high up in the sky. This beam could be similarly modulated, and projected to a focus on some suitable surface near an innocent victim, and will similarly result in hearing “voices for nowhere”. All that remains is to decide what the voices should say. Perhaps they should direct the listener to kill his leaders on some concocted pretext, then kill himself after so that he may go straight to heaven where his virgins await as his reward.

      • Darryl Kerney says

        Feb 23, 2016 at 6:44 pm

        excellent idea !

        • Mark Swan says

          Feb 23, 2016 at 7:02 pm

          You bet…especially on The Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice…they would all look at the Big Woo diferently after hearing it.

        • Lia Wissing says

          Feb 24, 2016 at 3:27 am

          Brilliant! Tell them it is Gibril speaking.

      • dom107 says

        Feb 24, 2016 at 10:09 am

        Good idea. This is all so silly. The only Jinn I believe in is in a glass with nice Schweppes tonic water. Ghosts ,fairies apparitions ,visions, miracles, miraculous wounds, resurrections from the dead, virgin births.All B.S.!

        I don’t know about leprachauns though.I thought I saw one after the office Christmas party last year. I only had 12 pints of Guinness so it cant have been that !!!!?????

        Schweppes and Guinness. Use my usual bank account please1

  2. Davegreybeard says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 1:36 pm

    Well O.K. Christians and Muslims both believe in Satan, but it is my understanding that Jinn are separate little guys, apart from Satan. I am no expert on Christianity, but I don’t think most Christians believe in gremlins, which is what these entities seem to be.

    • Peter Charles says

      Feb 23, 2016 at 5:03 pm

      +No, only in the movies do gremlins exist. In the physical world, a gremlin is a mechanical or electronic fault that we are having difficulty, unexpected difficulty, in locating and fixing…..

    • Biff H says

      Feb 24, 2016 at 12:33 pm

      Not all but many Christians believe in fallen angels whereas Muslims are taught that Shaytan is a Djinn that at one time was the guardian of Allah’s storehouse – a place in which Allah stores fire and ice, which is used to punish the wicked (The mujahideen have been heard to pray: Allah, send down thunderbolts and hail to destroy this or that) – who rebelled and was thrown out of Jannat. Muhammad said Shaytan increased his number by having sex with himself and in each instance would produce 10 eggs which in turn held seventy hatchlings.

      • Jay Boo says

        Feb 24, 2016 at 12:44 pm

        “Muhammad said Shaytan increased his number by having sex with himself”

        How fitting an example of what Muslims do to themselves while bending over in willful submission to Allah.

        • Biff H says

          Feb 26, 2016 at 11:06 am

          Here’s the kicker: Allah’s angels are incapable of being holy. In Qur’an 2:30-31 Allah accused the angels of speaking falsehood when they passed judgment on his soon to be vice-regent Adam because they lacked knowledge and this prevented them from being truthful. The proof of their sinfulness is disjointed gobbledygook. The tragically humorous Allah was himself guilty of committing the sin of reason based on irrational thought. The Christian Prince has an amusing take on the matter in his YouTube video (starting at the 27:24 mark).
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=867C2sfIUgo

        • Biff H says

          Feb 26, 2016 at 11:37 am

          And [mention, O Muhammad], when your Lord said to the angels, “Indeed, I will make upon the earth a successive authority [viceroy].” They said, “Will You place upon it one who causes corruption therein and sheds blood, while we declare Your praise and sanctify You?” Allah said, “Indeed, I know that which you do not know.”
          And He taught Adam the names – all of them. Then He showed them to the angels and said, “Inform Me of the names of these, if you are truthful.” – Sahih International

          It follows that any creation of Allah is in a perpetual state of sin because their ability to reason is hampered by not being omnipotent.

  3. Black magic says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 3:06 pm

    Let all the witches and spirit chase them for every crime commited in the name of iSSlam

  4. Charli Main says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 3:36 pm

    I have know a few ladies, in years past, that have behaved very badly as a result of having djinns in their tonics————-

  5. wallace says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 4:52 pm

    One of my old grannies had a bit of a problem with jinn , which annoyed grandad as he was teetotal. While im on here i would like to draw (no pun intended) to a documentary Pamela Gellar has in the pipeline about the Garland attacks. It would be nice fellow J .Watchers if we could all kick in, according to our means some cash towards this worthwhile venture.I am sure the details will be appearing on this site shortly.

  6. Rational says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 5:04 pm

    Just like those crazy Christian preachers who said that Pokemon teaches us and our kids to worship Satan! This backward religious lot can be hilarious sometimes!

    • Beagle says

      Feb 23, 2016 at 9:41 pm

      If Christians arrested the Pokemon players and executed them, sure. But no, this is nothing like that.

      • Mark Swan says

        Feb 24, 2016 at 5:34 am

        Correct

    • Biff H says

      Feb 24, 2016 at 12:45 pm

      If a Christian preacher holds firm to the idea that anything that distracts someone from the message of salvation is a bad thing, they are consistent in their belief. If you reject Christianity, labeling them as crazy is par for the course.

  7. mortimer says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 5:24 pm

    Mohammed was an occultist who came from a long line of occultists on his mother’s side. His mother was from a family of ‘kahinnahs’ or female spirit mediums. Oxford-educated Alfred Guilaume was a famous professor of Arabic at both Princeton and the University of London…He observed that Muhammad first considered himself as belonging to the category of shair’-man with mysterious esoteric knowledge which was generally attributed to a familiar spirit called a jinn or shaytan. Mohammed’s spirit guide ‘Gabriel’ was a super-powerful familiar spirit, which may have been passed down to him from his mother’s and grandmother’s family! Gabriel was a powerful jinn to his ‘kahin’ Mohammed.

    Another scholar points out how Koranic verses point to the spiritism of Mohammed’s time: ‘The shortest verses generally occur in the earliest Suras, in which the style of Mohammed’s revelation comes very close to the RHYMED PROSE (saj) USED BY THE KAHINS, OR SOOTHSAYERS OF HIS TIMES.

    From Mohammed’s birth until his death many people in the hadiths and Sira record that Mohammed had fits of what appear to be typical spirit possession…sweating, snorting, groaning, rolling on the ground, shuddering. When Mohammed’s end came, he was said by Muslim writers to be under a spell cast on him. A spirit medium under the influence of a spell cast be another spirit medium.

    Like a real spirit medium, Mohammed was said to communicate with and see the dead. He spoke to them in cemeteries.

    Oxford educated Alfred Guilaume was a professor of Arabic at both Princeton and the University of London…He observes that Muhammad first considered himself as belonging to the category of shair’-man with mysterious esoteric knowledge which was generally attributed to a familiar spirit called a jinn or shaytan.

    Another scholar described the Mohammed’s early Quranic verse in this way: ‘The shortest verses (of the Koran) generally occur in the earliest Suras, in which the style of Mohammed’s revelation comes very close to the RHYMED PROSE (saj) USED BY THE KAHINS, OR SOOTHSAYERS OF HIS TIMES.

    What is a soothsayer? One who practices divination, generally associated with the occult sciences. Hinduism Zoroasterism, Mithraism all have hints of astrology in them. We see in sura 15:16 “We set THE signs of the ZODIAC in the heavens…” Islam condones, rather than condemns astrology. In sura 53:45, Muhammad refers to “Sirius,” the dog star worshipped by the pagan Arabs.

    Finally, people called Mohammed a sha’ir (a poet) who was guided by a certain jinn that inspired him with enchanting words in enticing rhythms, as well as a kahin (a spirit medium and fortune teller or soothsayer) who received inspiration from the jinn, revealing secrets to man. The Koran has many references to astrology and spiritism…something we would expect if Mohammed actually were a spirit medium.

    Muslims insist that Muhammad received revelations from God, but clearly Mohammed did not receive anything directly from Allah…it all came to him from a FAMILIAR SPIRIT, making Mohammed as spirit medium, rather than a ‘prophet’ who speaks directly to the Deity.

    Islam is thus demonstrated to be filled with and the result of soothsaying.

    • Biff H says

      Feb 24, 2016 at 1:03 pm

      The hadith report that Muhammad described Shaytan as a unique Djinn who at one time held a special place or honor in Jannat. When Muhammad was asked how Shaytan’s legion multiplied the far-fetched yarn of copulating with himself found its way into Islamic lore.

  8. Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 5:31 pm

    If you call the number on that billboard, 888-98-RUQYA, and press 1 to indicate that you are 50 or older, you can get a free medical alert system. And going to the website http://www.amriky.com takes you to
    https://www.hugedomains.com/domain_profile.cfm?d=amriky&e=com ,
    which says that this domain name “amriky.com” has lapsed, but can be repurchased for $2,095.
    Maybe these Amrikyans are having jinn problems themselves.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 23, 2016 at 10:23 pm

      I’m afraid many of us here are considered “Amriki” by Mohammedans. I’m one myself.

    • Jay Boo says

      Feb 24, 2016 at 2:25 am

      Who you gonna call?
      Ghost Busters

  9. Hope says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 5:33 pm

    Well, I think I learn something new about good ole Islam every day. Thank you, Hugh Fitzgerald.

    • Mark Swan says

      Feb 23, 2016 at 7:12 pm

      Yes this was a very light and enjoyable read indeed…Keep Them Coming…Thanks Mr. Fitzgerald.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 23, 2016 at 10:24 pm

        Here. here!

  10. jewdog says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 5:40 pm

    The idea of Jinns acting with independent supernatural powers contradicts the idea of monotheism, which teaches that such powers must only be part of a single divine monopoly.Add that to the us-versus-them ethic of Islam, and it should be obvious that we are dealing with a primitive, tribal cult.

    • mortimer says

      Feb 23, 2016 at 8:11 pm

      There are jinns who are Muslims and jinns who are not. Figure that one out.

      We clearly see how similar KSA is to ISIS. They both hate occultism, not realizing that Mohammed was an occultist himself. Mohammed merely murdered all his competition. KSA and ISIS both follow the method of Mohammed and murder occultists as well, even though a majority of Muslims buy amulets and charms.

  11. Rob says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 5:41 pm

    Jinn problems?
    More like Gin problems.

  12. Voytek Gagalka says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 6:02 pm

    Wow! So I guess novels (and movies) of “Harry Potter” would be absolutely forbidden in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. And regarding my own field of interest, no wonder that they could never stage Reyer’s opera “La statue” there, since not only its middle act takes place in Mecca but also one of main characters is no one else but personificated Jinn!

  13. Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 6:06 pm

    Over a week ago, I signed up at whyIslam.org to be dawah’ed to, and received a reply saying:
    ==QUOTE==
    Dear Mark Spahn,
    In the name of Allah, the Most Gracious and the Most Merciful. Assalaam Alaikum (peace be unto you). This is to confirm that your request for Email Discussion was received by the Why Islam team. Email Correspondence consists of assigning one of our volunteers to email you. That person will be your primary, personal contact for any and all information about Islam, and will be always be just an email away. Whether you have general questions about Islam, need clarifications on Islamic issues, or are just curious to learn more, your email correspondent will be the one to help you.

    For your security, please verify that you requested this service by clicking here.

    Thank you for your request.
    WaSalam (and peace to you)
    877-WHY-ISLAM associate team.
    ==UNQUOTE==

    When I clicked on the underlined “here”, I was taken to a page saying
    “877 Why Islam – Thank You!
    Thank you. God willing, we will shortly contact you for your requested service.”

    Despite the “shortly”, no-one has yet contacted me, and the “God willing” part of their reply makes me suspect that they don’t really want to have a dialog with me and are laying the blame on Allah — which seems kind of blasphemous. This behavior of “Let’s talk” followed by a failure to communicate is the kind of prank a jinn would pull.

    This article by High Fitzgerald offers a possible explanation. Not to be a heresiarch or anything, but could Allah himself be a jinn?

    • mortimer says

      Feb 23, 2016 at 8:17 pm

      Allah was never in direct contact with Mohammed…Allah used a jinn ‘Gabriel’ to talk to Mohammed.

      Mohammed was thus not a prophet, but a spirit medium receiving ‘messages’ exactly the way spirit mediums today receive ‘messages’ from beyond.

      Everything Mohammed felt ‘in his heart’ was a message from a familiar spirit. The message was ‘conveyed’ by Gabriel (whoever or whatever he was). A

      All of Mohammed’s messages were second-hand relayed messages…100% hearsay.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 23, 2016 at 10:25 pm

      Good for you, Mark–but do be careful with WhyIslam?–they are a nasty bunch. Don’t put yourself in any danger with them.

  14. Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 6:12 pm

    Correction:
    “High Fitzgerald” should be “Hugh Fitzgerald” (unless he’s high on gin).

  15. Angemon says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 6:33 pm

    Psssst. Hey, you. Yeah, you, Saudi man. Here’s a little insider tip on how to identify a witch:

    • Frank Courtney says

      Feb 24, 2016 at 8:42 am

      or, even more pertinent …

  16. Bezelel says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 6:40 pm

    If one doesn’t put sanity in front of any notion of Holiness, one will never grasp either.
    God is not insane, followers of islam are.

  17. Georg says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 8:11 pm

    Has it ever occurred to Saudis to do something useful? Would it really be so bad?

    Who knows, they might even find they like it (don’t hold your breath).

    • Nimrod says

      Feb 23, 2016 at 10:19 pm

      Doing something useful is for the kuffar. The Muslim civilizational strategy (if you can call it that) is to be a purely warrior caste who does nothing but conquer and enslave the kuffar which then have to do all the work for the Muslims.

      Doesn’t work too well when you run out of kuffar who you can conquer, but if you have oil on your land you can adapt strategy pretty easily: just be willing to kill anyone who tries to take the oil and sell the oil to the kuffar in exchange for whatever you want. The silly kuffar sense of ethics will keep them from taking your oil even when you’re vastly outgunned because they “love life and hate death”. Thus you can continue to mentally live in the 7th century and your only function remains that of a warrior guarding oil fields.

      But when the oil runs out, loses value, or becomes more obsolete then you’ll be up the creek again. But maybe by then Allah will have come up with a different way to enable your ignorant backwardness and inability to do anything other that commit violence.

      So: 1) guard oil, 2) sell oil, 3) exorcise jinn, 4) bow to Kaaba, 5) fight witches, 6) wage jihad when you get bored or feel like pleasing Allah, 7) repeat. I think that pretty much sums up the KSA.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 23, 2016 at 10:36 pm

        Nimrod wrote:

        Doing something useful is for the kuffar.
        ………………….

        So true, Nimrod. Most Saudis completely lack the skills necessary for employment–not to mention even the most vestigial work ethic.

        Few Saudis work at all, and the few who do are usually in governmental jobs or else are employed by Western companies doing business in SA which requires them to hire a certain number of Saudis, whether there is any need for them or not.

        Generally, Westerners do the higher end jobs, educated Asians like the Koreans middle management, and poor foreigners from places like the Philippines the manual labor. These last are treated little better than slaves.

      • Biff H says

        Feb 24, 2016 at 2:08 pm

        First and foremost every Muslim is tasked with being the instrument of Allah’s will on earth, to serve the head and eat the foot by being both watchdog and punisher of abduls that are deficient in their religion.

  18. Beagle says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 9:43 pm

    If the Jinn look like Barbara Eden circa 1967, what’s not to like?

    • Nimrod says

      Feb 23, 2016 at 10:30 pm

      Human and djinn marriage:
      http://www.brotherrahman.net/human-and-djinn-marriages/

      Also: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/03/can-a-man-marry-a-jinni-female

      Apparently the djinn may not make itself visible for the ceremony. Go figure.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 23, 2016 at 10:36 pm

        Bwahahahahahaha!

  19. gravenimage says

    Feb 23, 2016 at 10:10 pm

    Hugh Fitzgerald: News From the Magic Kingdom
    ………………………

    This is so true. I have mentioned here before that Ayaan Hirsi Ali, when she lived in Saudi Arabia as a child, found that all her neighbors treated Jews–which none of them had ever met–as virtual Djinns, who prevented cars from starting and caused plumbing to back up.

    Even less plausibly, they caused people’s bosses to get mad at them or fights with their wives. Any ‘slutty’ woman–a pretty elastic concept among pious Muslims–was said to be “sleeping with Jews”.

    Of course, the likelihood of any *actual* Jews finding themselves in the neighborhood of Mecca was impossible, but never mind.

    Easy to laugh at this idiocy, of course–but this “magic kingdom” is *far* from being the happiest place on earth, as they take this deadly seriously:

    “Sharia in action: Saudi man beheaded for witchcraft, sorcery”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/06/sharia-in-action-saudi-man-beheaded-for-witchcraft-sorcery

    Especially vulnerable are women and foreigners. Most vulnerable of all are Infidel women working as maids.

    “Sri Lankan woman held for ‘witchcraft’ in Saudi Arabia, faces beheading”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/04/sri-lankan-woman-held-for-witchcraft-in-saudi-arabia-faces-beheading

  20. Ian H says

    Feb 24, 2016 at 12:38 am

    And lets not forget the bizarre case of the Malaysian military attache who tried to cast a love spell on a New Zealand woman by defecating on her doorstep.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3345722/Malaysian-envoy-defecated-outside-woman-s-house-smiled-street-said-black-magic-ritual-make-love-him.html

    • Aardvark says

      Feb 24, 2016 at 5:25 am

      For some reason that just cracked me up!

      Thanks, Ian, that made my morning.

      Mohammedans must be even more stupid (an repulsive) than I thought; that’s so obviously brown magic, not black.

      • Mark swan says

        Feb 24, 2016 at 5:47 am

        Me Too

    • WorkingClassPost says

      Feb 24, 2016 at 9:51 am

      Ian, what makes you think he’s a muzzie?

      Just because he’s from Malaya, called mohamed and shits on people’s doorstep, is that really enough evidence?

      No need to answer that, byw.

  21. duh_swami says

    Feb 24, 2016 at 9:02 am

    ‘The true blavk magicians are your fellow man…If you don;t believe that, just try and break away from the path they have set for you…

    The religious police are needed to keep the sharia compliant, compliant and to save them from falling into the most hideous materialism…That of putting their ‘wants’ before Allah’s ‘needs’…

  22. Jack HOLAN says

    Feb 24, 2016 at 9:44 am

    Robert Spencer or anyone else who may know with certainty, I’ve asked the government without a response ” Are refugees to the US allowed to bring more than one and the children of multiple wives with government benefits for all of them”? How will this work without a change in the law of 50 States including the Federal government since currently it’s illegal??

  23. Carolyne says

    Feb 24, 2016 at 11:05 am

    I don’t find this unusual. The Catholic Church believes in human possession by an evil spirit–a Djinn, if you will- which must be dealt with by that particular branch of the priesthood trained in the art of casting out evil spirits. I always find it odd, though, that when a home or person is possessed by one of these evil spirits, they smell things which are apparently human waste-like. Can’t they imagine anything worse?
    The Amityville Horror had a whole bag of tricks, including flying pigs with red glowing eyes. Poor pigs seemed to get a bad rap for a lot of things.

    There are some out-of-the-mainstream protestant sects which also believe in possession by evil spirits. Once in a while one reads that they have gone too far and inadvertently murdered one of their flock–usually a defenseless child–with their exorcism rituals.

    I think it doesn’t matter what you worship. One could worship a table lamp. The response from the lamp would be the same as the response one gets from worshipping an unseen God. At least you can usually see the table lamp. —–And there are no Djinns or evil spirits or even spirits of any kind.

    • Jay Boo says

      Feb 24, 2016 at 11:38 am

      Carolyne said, in brief

      — “The Catholic Church believes in human possession by an evil spirit–a Djinn …”

      and also,
      — “… some out-of-the-mainstream protestant (sic) (Protestant) sects which also believe in possession by evil spirits.”

      and concluded with,
      — “I think it doesn’t matter what you worship….”

      Also I would add that Carolyne mentioned
      “The Amityville Horror had a whole bag of tricks, including flying pigs with red glowing eyes.”
      ———————————————–

      Carolyne selectively accepts the “bag of tricks including flying pigs with red glowing eyes” in a fictional movie as (evidence) proving all religions are silly and false and against the belief in God

  24. LR says

    Feb 24, 2016 at 11:30 am

    Djinn Djinn!

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cYlbSTl8QTc

  25. steve says

    Feb 24, 2016 at 12:48 pm

    If any Muslim wants to spot a devil,leprechaun, evil bastard, cretin,witch,or any other mentally retarded spawn from hell they just need to find a mirror………

  26. Davegreybeard says

    Feb 24, 2016 at 5:07 pm

    @Anon
    “Also, while we are on the fascinating subject. The only time Satan appears in the old testament is in the book of job.”

    Speaking of fascinating stuff in Islam, I am aware of two documented appearances of “possession” occurring in Islam.

    The first, is right after Big Mo had his very first “Revelation.” Big Mo was convinced that he had been “possessed” by something and this caused him such anguish that he tried to commit suicide. As recounted in Ibn Ishaq’s “Sirat Rasul Allah,” (p.106) Muhammad said “I shall go to the top of the mountain and throw myself down that I may kill myself and gain rest.”

    Then Gabriel appeared and told Muhammad that he was “the apostle of God.” This, of course, was very confusing and now Big Mo just didn’t know what to do. But just in the nick of time, Kadija’s messenger found him so he went to her and “sat by her thigh and drew close to her.”

    Kadija tried to convince Muhammad that it was God that was the cause of his “possession” and she even asked “her cousin Waraqa, who had become a Christian and read the scriptures and learned from those that follow the Torah and the Gospel.” Waraqa thought this was the work of God also and that this proved that Muhammad was His apostle. When Kadija told Muhammad this, he calmed down somewhat, but he still wasn’t totally convinced.

    Kadija finally had to “disclose her form and cast aside her veil while the apostle was sitting in her lap” to convince Muhammad that he was the apostle of God.

    (Some of us Kuffar think Muhammad got it right the first time.)

    Then of course we have the famous “Satanic Verses” where the Devil speaks through Muhammad’s lips. As Allah says in his Quran:

    “And We did not send before you any messenger or prophet except that when he spoke [or recited], Satan threw into it [some misunderstanding].” (22:52)

    Which is an absolutely fascinating thing for Allah to say…

  27. Alarmed Pig Farmer says

    Feb 24, 2016 at 7:01 pm

    This essay by Fitzgerald gives us a glimpse of our future. The morality police are coming, and you look like a suspect. What they’re doing in the House of Saud is also done by the New Calips up in the Levant. The bros over at Boko are moralizing from the barrel of a gun themselves. It’s all over. As the Hijrah progresses into Europe, look for moral standards to rise. Then comes North America, with Montreal or Toronto succumbing first.

    • LR says

      Feb 24, 2016 at 7:09 pm

      Oh come on Pig Farmer, no need to become so defeatist.

  28. Davegreybeard says

    Feb 24, 2016 at 8:04 pm

    “Oh come on Pig Farmer, no need to become so defeatist.”

    Quite so APF, time to buck up old boy.

    I have always found that a pleasant day on the range does wonders for a down in the dumps attitude.

    Nothing like blasting a few hundred rounds down range to clear your head and cause you to refocus on your purpose in life.

  29. Tom says

    Feb 25, 2016 at 8:32 am

    Voice of America beaming in re-runs of “I Dream of Jeanni” and “Bewitched” into Saudi Arabia and problem solved.

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