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“Islam can’t be modernized,” says world’s “greatest Arabic poet”

Feb 19, 2016 6:26 pm By Robert Spencer

“When asked if he receives death threats from radical Islamists Adonis said: ‘Of course, but I do not care. For certain convictions people should risk their lives.'” Bravo.

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“‘Islam Can’t Be Modernised’ Says World’s ‘Greatest Arabic Poet,’” by Chris Tomlinson, Breitbart, February 19, 2016:

The writer regarded as the greatest Arabic language poet alive today has said Islam cannot be modernised.

Adunis Asbar, known by his pen name Adonis, is a Syrian-born writer often considered one of the greatest living poets of the Arabic language. He has come under criticism for comments he made recently about Islam before receiving the Erich Maria Remarque Peace Prize, named after the famous pacifist and author of the classic World War One novel ‘All Quiet on the Western Front’.

In an interview with Die Welt he talked about one of the most pressing issues in Germany since the migrant crisis began, the idea of being able to integrate migrants from predominately Muslim countries into European societies.

Being raised a Muslim himself and having one of the greatest understandings of the language of the Quran, Adonis said: “You can not reform a religion. If they are reformed, [the original meaning] is separated from it. Therefore, modern Muslims and a modern Islam is already impossible. If there is no separation between religion and state, there will be no democracy especially without equality for women. Then we will keep a theocratic system. So it will end.”

Laying down a heavy critique of the Islamic world, he added: “Arabs have no more creative force. Islam does not contribute to intellectual life, it suggests no discussion. It is no longer thought. It produces no thinking, no art, no science, no vision that could change the world. This repetition is the sign of its end. The Arabs will continue to exist, but they will not make the world better.”

The remarks are in reference to the broader questions of how he sees the Middle East, and specifically his native Syria which has been in a state of civil war for years. Adonis describes the totality of Islam in the life of people in the Islamic world saying Muslim society is “based on a totalitarian system. The religion dictates everything: How to run, how to go to the toilet, who one has to love…”…

“I have long been an opponent of Assad. The Assad regime has transformed the country into a prison. But his opponents, the so-called revolutionaries, commit mass murder, cut people’s heads off, sell women in cages as goods and trample human dignity underfoot.”

Adonis was referring to the Islamic State and the Al-Nusra front (an Al Qaeda affiliate) who have become the largest opposition force to Assad over the course of the civil war.

Breitbart London has already reported that attempts to house and integrate Muslim migrants will cost Germans and other European countries billions of euros, and according to Adonis’ opinion it could be a useless endeavour.

When asked if he receives death threats from radical Islamists Adonis said: “Of course, but I do not care. For certain convictions people should risk their lives.”

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  1. Jaladhi says

    Feb 19, 2016 at 6:52 pm

    Ah, somebody, a respected Muslim is telling the the truth about Islam – the Western media and leaders can learn something from him. Sadly, they won’t and keep yapping about “moderate” and “peaceful” Islam.

    • Huck Folder says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 1:16 am

      I would be wary of this leftard –

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adunis

      “A Grave for New York ~ Tombeau pour New York, also translated “The Funeral of New York”, this poem was written after a trip to New York in 1971. The poem is made up of 10 sections, each denouncing New York City in a different way. It opens by presenting the beastly nature of the city and by satirizing the Statue of Liberty.

      “A Grave for New York” is an obvious example of Adonis’s larger project of reversing the Orientalist paradigm to re-claim what he terms ‘eastern’ values as positive.”

      – I am reading “Joseph Anton” by Salman Rushdie, and there are many, many leftard facts, friends (e.g. Edward Said) and quotes in there, which make it sound like he and islam are made for each other.

      As the ‘world’s greatest Arabic poet’, I wonder if he can create verses as sintillating and as ‘devilishly clever’ as “The Book of Hate™”?

      I wonder what he would say about the BoH’s turgidity, verbosity, cotradictions…?

      • Aye Mok Mann says

        Feb 20, 2016 at 4:31 am

        From that same Wiki page:

        “A known critic of Islamic religious values and traditions, who describes himself as a non-religious person…”

        “On 27 January 1995, after Syrian pressure, it was announced in Damascus that Adonis was expelled from the Arab Writers Union for meeting with Israeli intellectuals…”

        “”That’s why I said I’m not like the revolutionaries” he says. “I’m with them, but I don’t speak the same language. They’re like school teachers telling you how to speak, and to repeat the same words.”

        “I was among the first to criticise the Ba’ath Party, because I’m against an ideology based on a singleness of ideas.”

        “He has also called upon the opposition [in Syria] to shun violence and engage in dialogue with the regime.”

    • eduardo odraude says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 1:23 am

      Clearly Adonis is no Muslim.

  2. celticwarriorcanada says

    Feb 19, 2016 at 6:58 pm

    It”s already modernized : muslims now use THE SOCIAL MEDIA to RECORD Their SICK sexual fantasies and even. cruelties to animals , to STRIKE TERROR INTO THE HEARTS OF THE UNBELIEVERS,and to RECRUIT NEW BLOOD . In this they are far ahead of the Japanese , who also USED RAPE as a form of terror and took old black and white photos of SNUFF and other atrocities not worthy to be mentioned . Often these SICK photos were used later by these soldiers as PORN for masterbation and entertainment !!! AND as Raymond Ibriham , SO WELL EXPLAINS, islam especially in I.S. has already EXPERIENCED A REFORMATION ( A BACK TO THE” ORIGINAL” MOVEMENT) .

    • Huck Folder says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 1:19 am

      A slight shift in location for Conrad’s “Heart of Darkness”?

  3. Atheist7 says

    Feb 19, 2016 at 7:00 pm

    Isn’t Adonis simply acknowledging the orthodox view of Islam – which is essentially what ISIS is following? So why would anyone issue a death threat on Adonis? ISIS should like what he is saying and “moderate” Muslims – who seem to think that Islam is a religion of peace – should not be issuing death threats – well, because that is not peaceful.

    • RonaldB says

      Feb 19, 2016 at 7:09 pm

      “The Arabs will continue to exist, but they will not make the world better.”

      I think you misunderstand.

      The anger of the Muslims against Adonis would come not from his objective description of Islam, but from his judgement on it. Speaking of Islam as being useless and harmful is something a Muslim would not want spoken, and thus would be slander against Islam. This carries the death penalty in Islam.

      • mortimer says

        Feb 19, 2016 at 7:14 pm

        Sharia law calls it ‘mentioning something impermissible about Islam’. A fatwa could be pronounced at any time, especially if his denunciation becomes notorious.

        The mullahs are choosing to ignore him and not provide more attention. By making him a martyr of common sense, many Muslims would be drawn to Adonis’s teaching.

      • خَليفة says

        Feb 19, 2016 at 8:52 pm

        Dont forget that the Muslim idea of “slander” is not the same as in the West.

        Western idea – slander is telling lies – truth is not slander.

        Islam – slander is saying something which makes Islam ( or a person ) look bad, even IF IT IS the truth.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 19, 2016 at 9:26 pm

        Ronald B wrote:

        The anger of the Muslims against Adonis would come not from his objective description of Islam, but from his judgement on it.
        ………………….

        Exactly–pious Muslims know how oppressive and violent Islam is, but they consider these great things. It is only if you consider violence and oppression to be bad that it is a problem.

        خَليفة is quite right about “slander” in Islam.

    • eduardo odraude says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 1:19 am

      Atheist7

      The main point is that Adonis by his words shows himself to be an apostate from Islam. Islam decrees that apostates from Islam are to be killed.

      In the most canonical hadith collection, Muhammad said, “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.” Here’s the hadith in a university database: http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/hadith/bukhari/084-sbt.php#009.084.057

  4. mortimer says

    Feb 19, 2016 at 7:11 pm

    Adonis is quoted: “attempts to house and integrate Muslim migrants will cost Germans and other European countries billions of euros, and according to Adonis’ opinion it could be a useless endeavour”

    It is a fool’s errand to invite and care for indigent Muslims from Islamic dictatorships. They will not be able to escape the ill effects of Islam, because they bring the seeds within them in their polluted minds. Getting out of their countries is easy compared with leaving Islam.

    Islam is the most successful of all religious cults. I say ‘cult’ because it has all the characteristics of a cult organization. Large numbers of Muslims in Europe will gradually reduce all freedoms and civil liberties and human rights and then an Islamic revolution will occur that will wrest control of the governments and create theocratic, fascist states throughout Europe.

    • Ima Freeman says

      Feb 19, 2016 at 7:23 pm

      Very well articulated, Mortimer, and not once did you talk about deprogramming, a theme you continuously espouse yet is likely impossible 99% of the time. Your reference to islam as a cult is bang on. The only thing I would disagree with is the purported success you ascribe to islam taking over Europe. Tried before (Nazis/Italian fascism under Mussolini) and failed, and destined to fail again. I would certainly give my life to make sure it doesn’t. Great post.

      Ima

      • mortimer says

        Feb 19, 2016 at 8:59 pm

        Adunis Asbar is an example of how a Muslim can be deprogrammed and turned into a logical human with a noble spirit.

        Reaching Muslims with materials to deprogram them is difficult, but we now have the internet. If Western governments put the same money into deprogramming Muslims that the Saudis put it into spreading Wahhabism, we could defeat Islam. Gradually, ex-Muslims will become so common that they will be able to do the deprogramming. It will cost money for their salaries. Somehow, Western thinkers need to consider how best to reach Muslims to deprogram them. It is urgent to do so now. I believe many Muslims are unsure of their faith in the pedophile pirate.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 20, 2016 at 12:53 am

          Mortimer wrote:

          Reaching Muslims with materials to deprogram them is difficult, but we now have the internet. If Western governments put the same money into deprogramming Muslims that the Saudis put it into spreading Wahhabism, we could defeat Islam.
          ……………………..

          Mortimer, when has Infidels “deprogramming” Muslims *ever worked*? I have asked you this dozens of times, and you have never replied.

          I agree with Ima Freeman, though–your first post was very good.

        • Charli Main says

          Feb 20, 2016 at 8:34 am

          In Britain, the Muslims have already got the ” deprogramming” door firmly shut.
          Deprogramming Muslims, will essentially entail telling Muslims the TRUTH about Islam and that Mad Mohammed of Mecca was a mass murdering, child molesting, rapist, sex slave owner, homosexual and necrophile
          Printing and disseminating literature or publically speaking on the subject will IMMEDIATELY get you arrested for incitement to racial and religious hatred and a VERY lengthy prison sentence.
          To deprogram Muslims YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE ABLE TO TEACH MUSLIMS THE TRUTH ABOUT THEIR FILTHY DEATH CULT. That right is categorically denied to British subjects and is enshrined in British Law.

      • Carolyne says

        Feb 20, 2016 at 5:23 pm

        Ima, the situation is entirely different. While most civilized countries of the world hated Nazism and joined together to defeat it, Islam has few enemies in the west. In fact, western leaders are importing terrorists into their countries without regard for their own native population.. When Europe and North America are saturated with this evil cult of death, they will strike and there will be nobody left to oppose them.

    • Budvarakbar says

      Feb 19, 2016 at 11:02 pm

      Without any native ethnic Europeans

    • sidney penny says

      Feb 19, 2016 at 11:18 pm

      It starts off not by controlling government by by influencing government by block voting in crucial areas

      and if influence does not work then violence.

  5. Atheist7 says

    Feb 19, 2016 at 7:16 pm

    As Islam advances, it attempts to destroy all traces of the civilization that preceded it. Then it inflicts sharia law upon its victims, prohibits free thought, terminates scientific progress, and reduces to women to second class citizens. The country is then turned into a totalitarian theocracy. Yet Islam is growing, and amazingly, women are joining their ranks. The Islamic propaganda system is in overdrive and it is working extremely well. What chance do we have to replace islamophobia with islamorealism?

  6. Sam Hawkins says

    Feb 19, 2016 at 7:18 pm

    Islam would be collapsing under the weight of its own shortcomings … but the immivasion of Europe has given it a whole new lease on life 🙁

  7. worldcitizen1919 says

    Feb 19, 2016 at 7:41 pm

    If the Ottoman Empire could crash then it’s not beyond the bounds of reality for the current fanatical regimes to be dissolved by an age they are of no longer of any use for and whose people want freedom and human rights and are prepared to fight for them.

    Islamic civilisation ended with the Ottomans and it will not be long before all of Islam becomes secularised.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 12:56 am

      “worldcitizen1919” wrote:

      …whose people want freedom and human rights and are prepared to fight for them
      ……………………

      Except that *very few of them do*. Where are those in Dar-al-Islam fighting for freedom and human rights?

      Lots of Muslims fighting to impose Islamic law, though.

      Adonis stands pretty much alone here.

    • Carolyne says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 5:33 pm

      The Ottoman Empire crashed because the countries it was attempting to conquer fought back and repelled it, not because they voluntarily withdrew from “The gates of Vienna.” Every time I eat a croissant I silently thank those who were brave enough to fight this scourge.

      It appears that only Russia is seriously trying to defeat ISIS while our administration and those of other countries take no effective action and it is not even clear which side they are on.

      In the meantime, we and Europe are importing these barbarians in ever greater numbers and are even suggesting that there should be areas where the native population will not be allowed to go. This mistaken notion that they will work in the invaded countries and ease the worker shortage is fallacious. They have never worked in their own countries and they will never work in Europe because they get every benefit without working. Then they can devote their time to raping and pillaging and committing Jihad until each country falls to them and their horrific so-called religion.

      Adonis is right about the nature of Islam and its people. He should know. He is one of them.

  8. Ciudadano says

    Feb 19, 2016 at 8:09 pm

    “It produces no thinking, no art, no science, no vision that could change the world”

    And Western progressives support Islam and demand no criticism of that religion. Go figure.

    • Westman says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 12:43 am

      One might ask, “What cogent thinking, art, science, and vision that could change the world is being created by the current Western progressives?”

      I could be wrong, however, it appears that Islam has an obsolete, brutish, ossified, yet unified, vision without innovation while Western “progressives” have no unified vision at all. This must change before it’s too late.

  9. Wellington says

    Feb 19, 2016 at 8:11 pm

    Better if he were Chancellor of Germany than the fool who is.

    • Salome says

      Feb 19, 2016 at 8:31 pm

      At least he speaks the language of those soon to become the majority!

  10. Bonnie Sjoberg says

    Feb 19, 2016 at 8:25 pm

    I know it looks to you like the Muslims could “take over”, but as Adonis says, “Islam does not contribute to intellectual life, it suggests no discussion. It is no longer thought. It produces no thinking, no art, no science, no vision that could change the world. This repetition is the sign of its end. ”

    More and more people who were once adherents are turning away from this hateful system. Democracy will win.

    • Budvarakbar says

      Feb 19, 2016 at 10:57 pm

      Not with your attitude

    • eduardo odraude says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 1:12 am

      Bonnie,

      Islam has already, though intimidation, caused large numbers of public institutions, writers, artists, teachers, actors, comedians, and journalists in Europe and the United States to self-censor about Islam for fear of violence from Muslims. See http://www.quotingislam.blogspot.com

      Very few people today are willing to speak publicly and non-anonymously any criticism of Islam. Do you know what that means? It means the public conversation is hugely bent in the direction of those who foolishly support the influx of millions of Muslims into non-Muslim nations. Because of Islamic intimidation and consequent self-censorship, the discourse is also bent in the direction of those who ignorantly claim that Islam is just like all the other religions. People on the sidelines assume that must be true, because after all, most people who speak up say so. The average person has no clue that the relative silence of any objections is not the same thing as the non-existence of objections — that a huge amount of self-censorship is going on. Thus Islam already to some extent controls public discourse and intimidates speech. They are already to some extent taking over. I see little sign that European or American politicians are going to stop the huge influx and the Islamization of non-Muslim nations. We must support political leaders willing to resist Islamization and who will limit or stop Muslim immigration.

      • Martin Donohoe says

        Feb 20, 2016 at 9:37 am

        The biggest danger is not from islam, but from the loony Left who foolishly appease and promote medieval theocracy in the name of diversity and tolerance.

      • GWS says

        Feb 20, 2016 at 11:34 am

        Excellent point, Eduardo. I absolutely agree! Our political correctness is killing us.

    • Mike says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 10:44 am

      You are wrong Bonnie. Just because Islamic “societies” are moribund, devoid of individual creative thinking, and will never advance humanity in any positive way, that does NOT mean they will cease to exist. Islam is the oldest and most successful religious cult the world has ever seen. It has persisted for 1400 years and there are more muslims alive today than at any time in history. In fact it seems to be a self-perpetuating retrograde force. Invented by a primitive man and appealing to primitive men. It’s success and longevity are attributable to it’s utter intolerance and totalitarianism. It tolerates no questioning, no disobedience, and threatens those who wish to leave it with death. No wonder then that it has survived so long. As if all of that is not frightening enough, it is cruel, vicious and merciless, and it’s members multiply at an exponential rate (another reason it has grown so massively). If it is not removed from the civilized western world, and soon, it will take over by sheer force of numbers. This has happened many times in history to previously peaceful civilizations, and a study of the blood-soaked history of islam shows us this. Once their numbers reach 50% or more of the population (actually it only matters that the young men between 18-40 number 50% or more of the young men of the host population) and they know they are strong enough, they will unleash hell on the indigenous populations. If you listen closely you can hear them sharpening their knives already. You only have to look at the photos and videos (if you can stomach it) coming out of Iraq and Syria today to get an idea of what the streets of Europe are going to look like over the next 30-50 years. I just hope I’m dead before those days come, but I pity the European youth of today. Most of them seem to have no idea of the hell that is coming to them. On the contrary, most actively support muslim immigration and their own violent demise.

      • Pong says

        Feb 20, 2016 at 8:24 pm

        Anything over 25% is enough for them to take over. They act as a block and there will be enough stupid kufirs, who will join them.

      • Annie says

        Feb 20, 2016 at 9:25 pm

        There are many religious cults that follow leaders and have been around just as long as Islam. The difference of course being, the Mormons or Jehovah Witnesses, for instance, don’t require death for apostasy or death to non believers. When will people wake up and see how imperialistic Islam is?

    • GWS says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 11:25 am

      To “take over” they don’t have to be culturally or intellectually superior, they only have to out-reproduce us… and they are! Our own welfare system will be our undoing. Our leftist fools will give them whatever they need to subdue and dominate us. It’s only a matter of time. We live for today while they have all the time in the world.

    • stan-in-usa says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 12:36 pm

      Democracy will never prevail in an Islamic world. How in the world will you, or anyone else believe a culture which has known only one way of life for over a thousand years suddenly change? People such as are living in a country such as Afghanistan will never accept Western culture because their lives are the same as their ancestors. It’s in their blood. Comparable to any attempt to making a jaguar the same as an everyday house cat.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 8:45 pm

      Bonnie, the barbarians were able to take over Roman Europe, despite the fact that they brought little except brute force and greater conviction than their civilized victims.

      If we do not begin to act decisively, Islam will do the same.

      They have already destroyed many societies far superior to themselves–Roman North Africa and the Levant, the Persian Empire, great swaths of Hindu India, and the Byzantine Empire.

      The free West would only be the latest in almost a millenia and half of wanton destruction,

    • Eto Mora says

      Feb 21, 2016 at 12:33 am

      The Muslims will migrate to a democratic Country and once they’re given the right to vote, the traditional politician will give in to their demands like to be ruled by Sharia Law in exchange for votes and slowly they will take over. They’re more intellect actually than the the host country with plenty of addicts and hooligans and who has no fear with God…

  11. Angemon says

    Feb 19, 2016 at 8:44 pm

    Islam Can’t Be Modernised’ Says World’s ‘Greatest Arabic Poet

    Most muslims don’t want islam to be modernized anyway.

  12. John Galt III says

    Feb 19, 2016 at 8:47 pm

    Obama just put out a hit on this guy fro truth-tellin

  13. Dan Jones says

    Feb 19, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    The followers of the pedophile mo-ham-is-mad are insane at best…

    More End Time News At:
    http://www.shininginthedark.com/?page_id=4526

  14. gravenimage says

    Feb 19, 2016 at 9:21 pm

    Laying down a heavy critique of the Islamic world, he added: “Arabs have no more creative force. Islam does not contribute to intellectual life, it suggests no discussion. It is no longer thought. It produces no thinking, no art, no science, no vision that could change the world. This repetition is the sign of its end. The Arabs will continue to exist, but they will not make the world better.”
    ………………………..

    Wow–Adunis is not pulling any punches here.

    He has always been critical of Islam and the stagnancy of the Muslim world, though. No wonder he gets death threats from violent Muslims.

    Even his pen name–Adunis or Adonis, is a reference to the West.

    Here is his poem, “Desert”–it is a bit too long to post here, so here is the link:

    http://www.poetryfoundation.org/poem/243414

    It is his elegy for the terrible Jihad destruction of Beirut in the 1970s. It never really says who is responsible, but it is quite haunting.

    Tower Square, also known as “Martyr’s Square”–referred to in the poem–was a bloody front line and no man’s land during the “civil war” there.

    • Mazo says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 11:45 am

      cravenmirage – Adonis originated from a Semitic, Phonecian, Levantine word and is not a reference to the west.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 20, 2016 at 9:06 pm

        Yet more crap from the meretricious Mazo:

        cravenmirage – Adonis originated from a Semitic, Phonecian, Levantine word and is not a reference to the west.
        …………………………….

        The myth of Adonis was found throughout Mesopotamia, the Levant, Egypt, and Greece.

        But this figure has different names in different places: Osiris, Tammuz, Baal Hadad, and Attis.

        The Syrian Adonis is “Gauas” or “Aos”–clearly Ali Ahmad Said Esber is not using either of these iterations as his pen name.

        “Adonis” is the *Hellenized* form of this figure’s name–a reference to Classical Greece.

  15. mortimer says

    Feb 19, 2016 at 9:36 pm

    “Islam cannot be modernized” – Adunis Asbar, poet

    He is correct. What is said to be ‘perfect, complete and eternal’ may not be touched without changing it and thus making it ‘imperfect’. Islam shatters if its problems are exposed to discussion. It is immediately seen to be ‘imperfect, incomplete, contemporaneous with the 7th century…thus, VERY human in origin.

    Islam has many inherent problems that contradict and are irreconcilable with modern ideas of progress, human rights and civil liberties:

    1 No Golden Rule 2 No free speech 3 No democracy 4 Jihad – holy war of world conquest 5 Honour killings 6 Taqiyya – sacred lying 7 Taqlid – group think 8 Misogyny – repression of women 9 Rape of kafirs as jihad prizes 10 Genocide 11 Ethnic cleansing 12 Anti-Semitism 13 Al-Walaa wal-Baraa – Islamic apartheid 14 Torture 15 Plundering 16 Cruel and unusual punishments 17 Backwardness – stagnation 18 Violence against women 19 Slavery 20 Discriminatory Sharia law 21 Hatred of the arts 22 Pedophilia disguised as child marriage 23 Fifty generations of cousin marriage and genetic defects 24 Cruelty to animals 25 Extortion tax to humiliate disbelievers 26 No historic basis 27 Obscurantist rejection of reason 28 FGM 29 Arab racism 30 Theocratic totalitarianism 31 Vigilantism 32 Supremacism

    Islam is a Bronze Age Death Cult combined with Arab racism, misogyny, a totalitarian political system and a 7th century culture. None of Islam’s problems are logically, ethically or socially defensible or capable of being updated or modernized or reformed. Islam is regressive and cannot be modernized without making Muslims aware of all its inadequacies and thus destroying it.

    • Atheist7 says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 12:18 pm

      Great post Mortimer! I really like to see lists of things. It is easier to remember that way.

      Then, after I saw your post, I went on the Internet to find: “15 celebs who you didn’t know were Muslim”. Among them, intellectual power house Mike Tyson, and always keep you body covered Janet Jackson. However, the most interesting was as Mos Def, the actor and rapper, because of his deep spiritual faith:

      “9. Mos Def
      Mos Def started to be very introspective of religion at a young age. Even though his father was Muslim, he was not really exposed to Islam until he was 13. When he was 19, he declared himself a Muslim and his faith has driven him ever since. He says that Islam’s sole interest is the welfare of mankind, and therefore Islam is the strongest advocate of human rights anywhere on Earth.”

      Evidently the “Islam is a Religion of Peace” memes are hard at work distorting reality for too many people.

  16. sidney penny says

    Feb 19, 2016 at 9:45 pm

    “Islam can’t be modernized,” says world’s “greatest Arabic poet”

    What is MODERN?

    Why does it need to be modernized?

    Just stop the violence in its name,that is a start.

    Stop the jihad against the infidels.

    All Muslims yes all should urge other Muslims to stop using Islam for violence.

    • DFD says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 3:26 pm

      sidney penny

      Are you from earth?

      • Carolyne says

        Feb 20, 2016 at 5:37 pm

        Sidney penny, they can’t stop. That is who they are. That is what they do.

  17. sidney penny says

    Feb 19, 2016 at 10:03 pm

    Maybe he should have a chat with the Pope?

  18. Avesta says

    Feb 19, 2016 at 11:08 pm

    To use the word “Modern”, “Modernization”, “Modernize”, “Moderation” in any or other format with the so called “Religion of Peace” is like going to see a circus performance without clowns and attempting a laugh at the expense of other performers when there is an accident.

    If we even dare to use the word “Mode” in any of its formats with respect to Islam, perhaps we should ask why the Muslims wear a diaper on their heads and refuse to shower and use soap at least once a day…..?????

    All pork products and alcohol consumption is forbidden yet use of one’ s hand to wipe oneself after a bowl movement is considered cleanliness and they don’ t even use soap to wash their hands.

    I witnessed horrors in the name of Allah in Central Asia that would even shock Thulsa Doom for Conan the Barbarian.

    Modernize Islam…….?????? Perhaps when Camels grow wings in Saudi Arabia…!!!!! But not before.

    • Carolyne says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 5:44 pm

      Soap is likely an unknown quantity to these barbarians. You, Avesta, are correct. Islam will never be modernized. They are intellectually incapable of becoming civilized. I think it comes from generations of first cousin marriage.

    • abad says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 10:23 pm

      Avesta:

      Your post makes me think of my college professor, a convert to Islam – who probably did use toilet paper prior to converting and now uses his bare left hand. WTF.

      We need to make it illegal to convert to Islam. Islam is as unclean as it gets.

      In fact, pigs – and dogs! – are cleaner than Muslims.

      That tells you something right there.

  19. Stewart Davies says

    Feb 20, 2016 at 4:08 am

    Islam came into the world from the pit of hell for a specific purpose. And said purpose is, firstly to enslave its unwitting adherents,and to blind them to the truth of our redemption wrought by Jesus Christ; and to use them as a battering ram once Judeo-Christian civilsation has sufficiently apostasised and been rendered ripe for the taking. Of course a religion that has its origins, in the person of Allah, in ancient Mesopotamian paganism, cannot possibly be “modernised” Modernised to become …….what?

    Far too many in the West entertained the comfortable notion that, after the Ottoman Empire met its apparent demise in 1917, Islam was a spent force. Hillaire Belloc attempted to disabuse a complacent Western Europe of this madness when, in 1938 he stated;that “[Islam remains] the most formidable and persistent enemy which our civilisation has had, and may at any moment become as large a menace in the future as it has been in the past.”

    But at least we can be quite cionfident that, after Islam has been permitted by God to be an instrument of punishment and correction for the post-Christian world, it will be returned, by the power of God, to the place from whence it came.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 4:06 pm

      To view Islam as a divinely-ordained ‘scourge’ – as if God expressly designed it and carefully planned to unloose on the world something that, so far, has killed 270 million people, most of them in Africa and India before ever they had a chance to even *hear* the Christian gospel – is dangerous.

      Because it feeds into a Dhimmi mindset – “what did I do to deserve this?” and also saps the will to resist, “If God is doing this to me then I can’t do anything to stop it and it would be useless to even try”.

      Reminder: it isn’t just the ‘post-Christian world’ that is suffering dreadfully from Islam. It is the *nascent* Christendom of sub-Saharan Africa that is in danger of being wiped out by Islam before it has a chance even to be *created*. African Christians are not apostates. They are not, in general, ‘liberals’ practising a Christianity-and-water faith. You might accuse them of syncretism… but then, African Christians are about where our own Christian ancestors were… many are only one, two, three generations from the very first encounter with the faith, many still don’t have Scripture in their own languages (the translation projects are still happening or just getting underway)… they’re still working out the implications of what it is to be Christian… only Islam is now falling upon them like a tsunami. Do you want them to go the way of the church in North Africa.? It *was* wiped out. Totally. For over a thousand years. And i really do think that saying, “O well they must all have been weak in faith/ heretics/ etc” and blaming them for their own annihilation, is too simplistic. And, again, smacks of proto-Dhimmi thinking, “If Islam wipes us out, we *deserve* to be wiped out”.

      And what of the Armenians? The Armenian Christians of the late 19th and early 20th century were in *no way* like the ‘post-Christian’ modern West. Yet the annihilating scourge of Islam fell upon them. and… almost erased them from the world. I hear people complacently state ‘the blood of the martyrs is the seed of the church’…. but.. what happens when *everybody* is killed and no-one is left alive to testify? When there is NO church left – neither a building nor even three living people – and Islam sits in triumph on top of a mountain of bodies. That is pretty much the situation in Turkey. Do you conclude from that that the Armenian Christians must have been extra specially disobedient and wicked? That they *deserved* the Genocide?

      • Carolyne says

        Feb 20, 2016 at 5:53 pm

        dumbledoresarmy, I agree with you except I do not recognize that there could be a “God” who would want to wipe out 270 million people just to prove a point. That would be outrageous. A “God” could stop this if he/she wanted to and a loving and merciful “God” would never have allowed it to start. I suppose that kind of thinking could be a comfort to some, but it makes no sense to me.

        When one considers the universe and see that everything is in harmonious balance and rational, the planets circling their suns, and no “Heaven” to be found, how could a creator of this want to eliminate 270 creatures on one of the planets just for fun? Strange sense of humor.

      • Stewart Davies says

        Feb 20, 2016 at 6:26 pm

        Dubledoresarmy

        While what you say is true to a degree, I think it misses the point. There have been periods in history when the powers of hell have gained almost total ascendancy, only to be overthrown, first by the Great Flood, and two thousand years later by the Blood of Christ on Calvary. However, this present generation is the most guilty, the most corrupt in all human history, By “this generation” I mean the last two thousand years, since “this generation” has received the full revelation of Jesus Christ.(See Luke:11: 29-32).
        Of course Islam has harmed hundreds of millions of people who had never had the opportunity to hear the Gospel. But that is entirely the fault of those who have received it and ignored or even rejected it. So, it is not Islam’s fault per se; it is ours. Considering the Parable of the Talents; if, over the centuries, butv more so in the present day, more Christians had been willing to invest their “one talent” for the sake of the Kingdom of God, rather than an apatheitic “It’s not my fault; what can I do”, humaniity would never have come to this most precarious predicament. So yes, it was not God’s will that Islam should ever come into being, but at least it could have been held in check had Christians used what we have been given. It’s called “spiritual warfare” WE hear a great deal about Islam’s use of the sword as a means of overcoming all opposition, or even non-compliance. Jesus said “I came, not to bring peace but the sword”. The sword of which Jesus speaks is the Sword of Truth, which we are all called to wield in for the sake of all humanity. So, we must be prepared to “wield this sword of truth, the Word of God who is Jesus, even at the cost of our lives if necessary.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 20, 2016 at 9:12 pm

        I agree with Dumbledore’s Army.

        Moreover, the West, *with all her faults*–and they are manifold–is morally *far* superior to Islam. The idea that God is displeased with the West and therefore decides to replace us with a creed many, many times worse does not make sense.

        People have free will–we can be good, we can be bad, we can fight for our values, or we can cave to evil. It is our choice.

    • abad says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 10:30 pm

      “But at least we can be quite cionfident that, after Islam has been permitted by God to be an instrument of punishment and correction for the post-Christian world, it will be returned, by the power of God, to the place from whence it came.”

      I’m afraid I’ll have to disagree with that – people make a conscious choice whether to be Christian – or Muslim – or Buddhist, or Hindu, or Jew. People need to be held accountable for their actions.

      Muslims ESPECIALLY need to be held accountable for their actions and they need to stop blaming the rest of the world for their problems, the wickedness of Islam.

      Islam has always been amoral and while nothing can be done about that (Muslims will have the second chance to accept Christ as their Lord and Savior; if they refuse they go to hell for eternity) once Christ returns to earth He will purge this rock of Satan’s Religion of Islam.

  20. Lia Wissing says

    Feb 20, 2016 at 4:20 am

    Bravo, Mr Brave Man!

  21. bostongal912 says

    Feb 20, 2016 at 5:35 am

    Well this says it all! Maybe we should send him to the White House to explain this to Obama! Obama doesn’t have a clue! Or maybe he does! Maybe he’s trying to flood the country with Muslims for more democratic votes! He said he was going to change the country but I don’t think people bargained for this! So here you go all you Obama voters! Hope you’re happy now!!!

  22. duh_swami says

    Feb 20, 2016 at 7:40 am

    “Modernization’ is a word unknown to Allah…How do you modernize perfection, and who among the pious is wise enough and brave enough to attempt t?

  23. Jay Boo says

    Feb 20, 2016 at 9:33 am

    Off topic

    “O ‘Aisha! I still feel the pain caused by the food I ate at Khaibar, and at this time, I feel as if my aorta is being cut from that poison.” (Sahih al-Bukhari,
    http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Osama/smith_mo_poison.htm

    — I wonder if uncooked pork with (Trichinellosis) was mixed into Muhammad’s mutton?
    Also, did Aisha and her relatives have a motive to assist Muhammad’s Jewish sex slave in getting rid of the dirty old pedophile and prophet pretender?

    • Carolyne says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 5:57 pm

      Maybe it was Aisha’s payback to Big Mo for being molested at six years old and raped at nine years old. Whatever the poison was, I hope it caused a horrific, painful and slow death. More painful than any death he had ever inflicted on another.

  24. Truth Seeker says

    Feb 20, 2016 at 10:14 am

    In Savage Era, ‘Might is Right’ was in Force. Religions except Islam try for people get out of Savagery. But for Islam Savagery is one of the Main Pillars and those who practise will get Janaah (Islamic Paradise).

  25. Florida Jim says

    Feb 20, 2016 at 10:16 am

    There is a very small group of devoted muslims who admit Islam cannot exist with any other religion. This group is shunned and mocked by mosques and ignorant Imam’s [is there any other kind?] When the goal is to take over and make slaves of any who don’t join them who would follow them except some dolt that has never been exposed to a religion of love like Christianity where love they neighbor rules and behead thy neighbor is never mentioned.Assimilation is not wanted look at Hamtramck Michigan as a guide

  26. Cynthia says

    Feb 20, 2016 at 10:31 am

    That’s okay these cowards. I danced. To Toni Braxton down your street. Yes I got an audience… Then I flip them off and kept on going. Come on I got some bacon for you.

  27. Phil says

    Feb 20, 2016 at 10:55 am

    What a wonderful, brave man. I’m going to buy his collected works.

  28. Atheist7 says

    Feb 20, 2016 at 11:19 am

    Hi Florida, Do you have some more information on Hamtramck Michigan? Some time ago I heard that the Muslim population in Hamtramck had reached more than 50% so they began enacting laws that were favorable to the Muslim population and not to the non-Muslim population. What we need to know is the type of changes that occur in a community when the percentage of Muslims increases.

    • DFD says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 3:36 pm

      Atheist7 says: “….What we need to know is the type of changes that occur in a community when the percentage of Muslims increases…”

      If you want a detailed list, I’ll post it. Begins with 5% and goes up to 100%, in stages though. Still, takes two page A4. It’s in tabulated form.

      Let me know.

      • Atheist7 says

        Feb 20, 2016 at 4:34 pm

        DFD, Yes, please post the information. This will help us track the progression of Islamization. This is exactly the type of information that should be on this site – even if it is a large post.

        • DFD says

          Feb 20, 2016 at 6:07 pm

          Hope that’s useful, regards DFD:

          Snipped, part of my writing on Islam….And they do, Christians in particular. Note that the government figures below are usually understated; for instance, the number of UK Muslims was reported in various (tabloid) papers as 3.5 million in 1976. And in 2015 it was … 3.5 million. Amazing, is it not? Note, the data below is primarily from 2010 whilst the effects described are based on empirical evidence. And as of 2015/2016, the situation seems to be rather worsening.

          (The reader please note: The data below has not been researched by myself, instead it has been taken from a website that seems to be rather restrained when it comes to Islam, and also well researched and documented. Unfortunately I lost the link and am thus unable to refer to this site, nor to use the data with the orginator’s explicit permission. I assume however that since we are working towards the same goal, that I have the permission. Also I have added to the writings and comments under the lights of 2015/16. Should the originators of this data come across this publication and object, I apologize and will remove it forthwith. Thank you.)

          So, here it is:

          Islam’s Effect On Society At 0%-2%
          United States — Muslim 0.6% (Official, must be higher)
          Canada — Muslim 1.9% (in 2010)
          China — Muslim 1.8%
          Denmark — Muslim 2% (in 2010)
          Italy — Muslim 1.5% (in 2010)
          Ireland — Muslim 2%
          Norway — Muslim 1.8% ————————————

          1.8% Muslim population in Norway: In 2011 Norwegian authorities reported that 100% of all rapes in the entire capital Oslo, were committed by immigrants of which roughly 90% were committed by Muslim immigrants. —————————-

          Islam’s Effect On Society At 2%-5%
          At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:
          .
          Germany — Muslim 3.7% (in 2016 approx 5%)
          United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7% (now 3.3% since this report was made, the real number must be higher)
          Spain — Muslim 4%
          Thailand — Muslim 4.6% ————————————————–

          Islam’s Effect On Society At 5%-9%
          From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal food, including for non Muslims in schools for instance, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. That also gives them access to the food chain. They will increase pressure on supermarkets to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:
          France — Muslim 8% (Rising over-proportionally)
          Philippines — Muslim 5% (Rising over-proportionally)
          Sweden — Muslim 5% (Rising over-proportionally)
          Australia — Muslim 6%
          Belgium — Muslim 6% (Rising over-proportionally)
          Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
          The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5% (Rising over-proportionally)
          Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
          At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, Islamic Law, as of 2016 in the UK. The ultimate goal of Muslims is of course to establish Sharia law over the entire world – as commanded in the Koran.

          Muslim population 5%: In Sweden nearly 77.6% of all rapes are committed by Muslim migrants. What will be the violence and assault report when the Muslim population doubles, and triples, and quadruples? In 2015 Sweden became the rape capital of Europe, since it went ‘multicultural’ in 1975, the increase in rapes was 1,400% – you read that correctly. One should not be surprised by this, the Koran repeatedly commands to install terror (literally) and fear into non Muslims. And sex can be used as a weapon, particularly brutal sex. Which as a side effect has the ‘bonus’ to humiliate the native male population. Also, people become afraid to leave their homes, giving street dominance to Muslims. Hence the immediate establishing of rape and torture camps by the Bosnians. The Serb camps were later and in retaliation, it was started by the Muslims, following Islamic practice. The coordinated mass sexual assaults all over Europe follow the same pattern, whilst serving as a test of European resolve. They fear very much an ‘Islamophobic Backlash’, true courage is not their hallmark. They require unarmed victims or numerical superiority. ———————-

          Islam’s Effect On Society At 10%-19%
          When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness. That is the application of terror, as mandated in the Koran. In Paris, annual car burnings and mass murder. Any non-Muslim action ‘offends’ Islam, and results in ‘uprisings’ and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam, and the murders (acts of intimidation by terror, as per the Koran) that followed. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
          Guyana — Muslim 10%
          Bulgaria — Muslim 10%
          Central Africa — Muslim 15%
          India — Muslim 14.6% (Officially, unofficial estimates 20-25%)
          Israel — Muslim 16% (Rising over-proportionally)
          Kenya — Muslim 10%
          Russia — Muslim 15% (Rising over-proportionally) ——————–

          Islam’s Effect On Society At 20%-39%
          After reaching 20%, nations will expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, more frequent killings, general terror and the burnings of Churches and Synagogues, such as in:
          Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8% (Rising over-proportionally)
          Suriname — Muslim 19.6% (Rising over-proportionally)
          Thailand — Muslim 35%
          Togo — Muslim 20% ——————————————–

          Islam’s Effect On Society At 40%-60%
          At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, non-stop church destruction, Boko Haram, etc., such as in:
          Bosnia — Muslim 40% (Real: Approx 55-65%, 2015)
          Chad — Muslim 53.1%
          Guinea Bissau — Muslim 50%
          Ivory Coast — Muslim 40%
          Lebanon — Muslim 59.7% (Prime target for ethnic cleansing)
          Nigeria – Muslim 50% —————————————————

          Islam’s Effect On Society At 60%-80%
          From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions, and non-conforming Muslims, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jaziya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:
          Albania — Muslim 70%
          Kazakhstan — 65%
          Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
          Qatar — Muslim 77.5%
          Sudan — Muslim 70%
          Note: Slavery was reintroduced into Sudan under increased Muslim political rule and establishment of Sharia law. In 1995, Human Rights Watch first reported on slavery in Sudan in the context of the Second Sudanese Civil War. In 1996, two more reports emerged, one by a United Nations representative and another by reporters from the Baltimore Sun. Slavery is also commonplace in Mauritania and Mali.——–

          Islam’s Effect On Society At 80%-99%
          After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, ethnic cleansing and genocide, as these nations drive out infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and is on-going in:
          Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
          Egypt — Muslim 90%
          Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
          Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
          Iran — Muslim 98%
          Iraq — Muslim 97%
          Jordan — Muslim 92%
          Mali – Muslim 90%
          Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
          Pakistan — Muslim 97%
          Palestine — Muslim 99%
          Syria — Muslim 90%
          Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
          Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
          United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%———————

          Islam’s Effect On Society at 100%
          This will usher in the “peace” of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only book, such as in:
          Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
          Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
          Somalia — Muslim 100%
          Yemen — Muslim 100%

          Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust, hyped up by the Quran, by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

          “Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; the tribe against the world, and all of us against the infidel.” — Leon Uris, “The Haj”.

          Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist. A Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.

          Conclusion and Footnote
          It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police, or other government services, do not dare to enter these ghettos. There are usually no national courts nor schools nor non-Muslim religious facilities. Muslims never integrate into the community. The children attend Madrassas. They learn only the Koran. According to the Koran, to even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

        • Atheist7 says

          Feb 20, 2016 at 6:54 pm

          Thanks DFD. Your post is now safely stored in two locations on my computer.

        • DFD says

          Feb 21, 2016 at 10:46 am

          Atheist 7:

          Here’s a bit more, dovetails with the stats, and also emphasizes what I said about the stats being far to ‘mild’. The German police agrees, and be sure, it’s worse in France and particularly, by now, in Sweden. Link: http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7470/germany-migrants-crime

          As a rough guess I’d say the situation here, UK, is similar – if not worse. The MP for Birmingham stated that the what happened in Cologne happens for several years by now in Birmingham, right on the high streets. Google her up under ‘MP Birmingham UK’ and ‘daily mail Birmingham MP’

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 20, 2016 at 10:34 pm

      Here’s some information on what has happened to Hamtramck:

      “Michigan: Majority Muslim city council elected, ‘Today we show the Polish and everybody else’”

      http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/11/michigan-majority-muslim-city-council-elected-today-we-show-the-polish-and-everybody-else

      As always, as soon as Muslims have a majority anywhere they begin to dominate the Infidels.

      • DFD says

        Feb 21, 2016 at 11:09 am

        Thanks for the link graven. Tells the tale and confirms. BIG QUESTION:

        How many in the US, and EU!, are aware of the fact that that Islam started with only one town in Arabia, Yathrib/Median. Here’s a little something, excerpt from my writings, perhaps it should be forwarded to the Burghers of Hamtramck:

        ….. snipped, excerpt…..Given this, it is difficult to imagine that the Iranians are the descendants of the authors of the first charter of human rights in history. Countries with traditions of tolerance became extremist, overnight. The Arabs were among the most tolerant people on earth. The Arabs were a byword for tolerance – until Islam came.

        Prior to concluding this part, remember that the first Hijra was to Medina. Medina was first called Yathrib, and renamed after its subjugation. This narration is either of Christian, Jewish or Pagan source, slightly modified for reasons of locality.

        They came not to seek asylum, neither refuge nor safety.
        They demand that their religion is not to be spoken against, they said it was offending.
        They are offended by everything we do or say, everything not approved by them.
        They did not come to become part of us.
        They came to dominate, to conquer and subjugate us.
        They claim our women, our daughters, and even our boys.
        They demand that their religion is recognized as supreme.
        They demand that our customs and traditions are to be surrendered, one by one.
        They speak and want to rule us with the authority of their deity.
        They claim their every utterance to be the word of the One God, and therefore unquestionable.
        They claim that, even when they act in revolting atrocity.

        Too late Medina, too late. By the way, Muhammed is not buried in Mecca, but in Medina – his first conquest. They couldn’t even keep their name…

        No doubt, the Burghers of Hamtramck are already ‘learning’.

        • DFD says

          Feb 21, 2016 at 1:20 pm

          Correction:

          Should have been Medina and NOT ‘Median’ — Bloo.y auto correction. I have to turn that off.

  29. Roland Scialom says

    Feb 20, 2016 at 12:12 pm

    Mankind have not the competence required to propose another road for the
    civilisation based on Islam. The problem is too big for people who are
    rather attracted by entertainment and consumerism than by the ways to build
    a society in the frame of a humanist conception.

  30. Annie says

    Feb 20, 2016 at 12:25 pm

    As well, when the author says “You can not reform a religion. If they are reformed, [the original meaning] is separated from it.”, he is a bit wrong. But it depends on the religion and it’s texts. Islam would have to throw out it’s scriptures and admonitions from Muhommed to take over the world by force, rather than persuasion. The Xtian religion was “reformed” when it was “allowed” to indeed use it’s scriptures and admonitions to believe in grace and faith; and of course, no where did Jesus say to conquer any peoples by the sword in order to make them disciples of his.

  31. Jorge Barreiro Pelegrin says

    Feb 20, 2016 at 1:09 pm

    ADUNIS ASBAR COMMENT IS SO TRUE!

    I’ve been saying in my articles, over and over, that unfortunately the only deterrent to the Islam movement is to isolate them, to corner them to their own land possessions and put all kinds of obstacles for then to spread thru the World and penetrate our Democratic and Republican Countries.
    When the oil ends and we, the Democrats (Christians, Hindus, Jewish, Atheists and other anti-Muslim groups) relay on other sources of energy, those bastards will starve and their descendants will start their own disappearing act.
    Adunis Asbar have things very clear. “You can’t teach an old dog new tricks”.
    The Europeans are suffering right now the punishments for their own mistakes in trying to bend the rules and allowing the Muslim Refugees to expand and invade their lands.
    Take a look at France, Belgium, the UK, Germany and see the disasters that those savages caused, how they treat women, their disregard for property, their lack of education or even the effort to be educated.
    Islam is a totalitarian regime and the Koran a manual of War and murder.
    That book discourages and punishes all attempts to educate, to human relations to freedom and peace. The Koran, together with the Sharia Law are the most totalitarian form of government, they’re invaders, rapers, with a total disregard for humanity, especially Women (the mothers, as the Vedas call them) and their goals are the satisfaction of a handful of male leaders and their male followers that take pleasure in destroy anything they encounter on their way.
    We’re lucky that for one reason or the other, Obama haven’t had the chance to do more for the Islam and now God is sending us an “Avatar: Donald Trump” that understood the problem and if he becomes President will address the plague of Islam properly.

  32. citycat says

    Feb 20, 2016 at 7:12 pm

    “This repetition is the sign of its end”
    very true
    nature abhors fixédness and rigidity, and is always on the move.
    Change or die, literaturelly talking, or destroy and start again.
    Sooner the better the rigidity of the Religion will be turned to dust.

  33. More Ham Ed says

    Feb 20, 2016 at 7:31 pm

    Adunis Asbar is a freedom fighter and no-one even knows-it.

  34. More Ham Ed says

    Feb 20, 2016 at 8:27 pm

    Also, a highly recommended must-watch video from 2015:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVZhw4CY_ck

    “Robert Spencer, Raymond Ibrahim & Bruce Thornton – Jihad on the Offensive”

    (at 9:49 it’s supposed to be 150 MILLION at a minimum).

  35. abad says

    Feb 20, 2016 at 10:20 pm

    I give Adonis credit for being honest about Islam and he is right in saying Islam does not make the world a better place.

    Islam needs to go bye-bye from Planet Earth.

  36. gravenimage says

    Feb 20, 2016 at 10:44 pm

    I admire Adonis for both the quality of his work and his criticism of Islam.

    But I am concerned that many here automatically assume this means he is unreservedly pro-freedom and democracy, and a supporter of the free West–but I’m afraid this is not entirely the case.

    Like so many “moderates” in Dar-al-Islam, he is still a pretty equivocal figure.

    Here’s his notorious poem from 1971:

    “The Funeral Of New York”

    Picture the earth as a pear
    or breast.
    Between such fruits and death
    survives an engineering trick:
    New York,
    Call it a city on four legs
    heading for murder
    while the drowned already moan
    in the distance.
    New York is a woman
    holding, according to history,
    a rag called liberty with one hand
    and strangling the earth with the other.
    But that’s about it.”

    Even before 9/11, I’ve found this poem extremely disturbing.

    • DFD says

      Feb 21, 2016 at 12:59 pm

      gravenimage says: “….many here automatically assume this means he is unreservedly pro-freedom and democracy, and a supporter of the free West–but I’m afraid this is not entirely the case….like many “moderates” in Dar-al-Islam, he is still a pretty equivocal figure.”

      Precisely, graven, you hit the proverbial mail on the head.

      There are many ‘reformers’ and ‘critics’ in Islam. But if one reads and thinks about what they say, one finds that their primary concern is that Islam will be left behind, and that it weakens itself. Or outright fear of a military reaction/confrontation with the west.

      A fear that I think was also in Sisi’s mind, when he spoke of moderation.

      The only ones who are genuinely interested and wish to reform are ex-Muslims. I mean real ex-Muslims. When they are through, the Koran will consist of about 20-30 pages, soothing, peaceful reading… OK, OK, 10-20 pages.

  37. sidney penny says

    Feb 22, 2016 at 6:05 am

    Robert Spencer -Why did you not highlight this?

    “Arabs have no more creative force. Islam does not contribute to intellectual life, it suggests no discussion. It is no longer thought. It produces no thinking, no art, no science, no vision that could change the world. This repetition is the sign of its end. The Arabs will continue to exist, but they will not make the world better.”

    yes yes NO ART, NO SCIENCE, NO VISION

    You would have thought that with writing like this it is a right-wing attack on the religion of peace, not a Syrian-born, Muslim-raised Arabic language poet.

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