For those in the audience who might have thought this claim risible in light of current events — although there may not have been any skeptics at all, since the room was full of Catholic theologians — Khan did say: that although mercy is “the core of Islam,” “Islam as an ideal and Islam as it is applied and as it is practiced by people” are not the same thing. Did he explain why Muslims in such large numbers not only fall short of Islam’s ideal of mercy, but actively reject the idea that it applies to unbelievers? Did he explain the implications of the Qur’an verse that explicitly rejects the extension of mercy to non-Muslims: “Muhammad is the apostle of Allah. Those who follow him are merciful to one another, ruthless to unbelievers” (48:29)? There is no indication from this report that he did so. And that raises the question of why not, and what his overall intentions were in giving this talk.
More below.
“Is a Catholic concept of mercy at the heart of true Islam?,” by Elise Harris, Catholic News Agency, February 27, 2016:
Vatican City, Feb 27, 2016 / 09:23 am (CNA).- Professor Saeed Khan, an expert in Islam, has said that mercy is central to the Muslim faith – a mercy with roots in Catholicism and which is opposed to the misguided, fundamentalist interpretations of some extremist groups.
Mercy is “the core of Islam,” Saeed Khan told CNA in a Feb. 25 interview, adding that the Muslim concept of mercy “is actually an expansion of Catholic notions of mercy.”…
Khan doesn’t seem to have explained how it came to be that Islam took this concept of mercy from Catholicism while rejecting core Catholic ideas such as the crucifixion of Christ (Qur’an 4:157), the divinity of Christ (Qur’an 5:17, 5:72), and the Trinity (Qur’an 4:171, 5:116), and saying that those who believe Jesus to be the Son of God are under Allah’s curse (Qur’an 9:30). More’s the pity: an honest discussion of Islam’s view of Christianity, encompassing a discussion of both how Christianity influenced Islam and why Islam ultimately rejected aspects of Christianity might have been genuinely illuminating, or at least more illuminating than what Khan appears to have offered: a staking-out of common ground that is only established by ignoring the aspects of Islam that contradict the picture being painted.
Khan is a lecturer for Detroit-based Wayne State University’s Department of Near East and Asian Studies. He teaches courses on Islamic and Middle East History, Islamic Civilizations and the History of Islamic Political Thought.
He was present in Rome as a speaker for a Feb. 25-26 conference organized by the Pontifical Council Cor Unum in celebration of the 10th anniversary of the publication of retired pontiff Benedict XVI’s first encyclical, “Deus Caritas Est,” meaning “God is love.”
The document was published Dec. 25, 2005, just eight months after his election as Bishop of Rome.
Conference participants came from all over the world to discuss the encyclical from theological and charitable perspectives, as well as the perspective of other religions such as Judaism and Islam.
Khan himself spoke on the first day of the conference, offering participants his perspective on the Muslim understanding of mercy.
In his comments to CNA, Khan said the Islamic concept of God’s closeness to humanity is that he “is closer to you than your own jugular vein.”
This shows that a very intimate relationship that exists which can only be infused by love, he said. “So when Pope Benedict XVI mentioned in his encyclical that the primacy of love and how God then manifests that love then to his creation that is also an Islamic concept.”
Khan said mercy is also closely linked to the concept of charity. In Islam, charity is “a devise of mercy” that goes beyond providing material needs such as food and clothing, but reaches the spiritual level, he said.
As an example, he pointed to a famous saying of the Prophet Mohamed that “even a smile is a form of charity” since it forms a human connection. This is especially true, he said, at a time when humanity is becoming increasingly more impersonal, despite advancements in technology and communications.
“Abu Dharr narrated that the Messenger of Allah said: ‘Your smiling in the face of your brother is charity, commanding good and forbidding evil is charity, your giving directions to a man lost in the land is charity for you. Your seeing for a man with bad sight is a charity for you, your removal of a rock, a thorn or a bone from the road is charity for you. Your pouring what remains from your bucket into the bucket of your brother is charity for you.'” (Jami at-Tirmidhi 4.1.1956) Notice that Khan left out the “in the face of your brother” part, which suggests that only smiling at fellow Muslims, not non-Muslims, is charity.
However, while mercy is “the core of Islam,” there is tragically a difference between “Islam as an ideal and Islam as it is applied and as it is practiced by people,” Khan said, noting that the same can be said of any religion.
“Unfortunately there are people who will invoke the name of Islam to all kinds of unspeakable and egregious things,” he said.
“Those may claim to be believers who act out in such vengeful and violent ways, but again, it is such an anomaly and such an aberration from the divine message that it’s very difficult to be able to say with a certain straight face that this is really what God intended.”
Here again, it would have been refreshing if Khan had discussed some of these Qur’an verses and explained how they’re consistent with a message of mercy and not with being vengeful or violent:
2:191-193: “And slay them wherever you come upon them, and expel them from where they expelled you; persecution is more grievous than slaying. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, slay them — such is the recompense of unbelievers, but if they give over, surely Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate. Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s; then if they give over, there shall be no enmity save for evildoers.”
4:34: “Men are the managers of the affairs of women for that Allah has preferred in bounty one of them over another, and for that they have expended of their property. Righteous women are therefore obedient, guarding the secret for Allah’s guarding. And those you fear may be rebellious admonish; banish them to their couches, and beat them. If they then obey you, look not for any way against them; Allah is All-high, All-great.”
4:89: “They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of Allah; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.”
5:33: “This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth, to do corruption there: they shall be slaughtered, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall alternately be struck off; or they shall be banished from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement.”
5:38: “And the thief, male and female: cut off the hands of both, as a recompense for what they have earned, and a punishment exemplary from Allah; Allah is All-mighty, All-wise.”
8:12: “When thy Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast into the unbelievers’ hearts terror; so smite above the necks, and smite every finger of them!”
8:39: “Fight them, till there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s entirely; then if they give over, surely Allah sees the things they do.”
8:60: “Make ready for them whatever force and strings of horses you can, to terrify thereby the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them that you know not; Allah knows them. And whatsoever you expend in the way of Allah shall be repaid you in full; you will not be wronged.”
9:5: “Then, when the sacred months are drawn away, slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.”
9:29: “Fight those who do not believe in Allah or the Last Day, and do not forbid what has been forbidden by Allah and his Apostle, and do not acknowledge the religion of Truth, even if they are of the People of the Book, until they pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” (Qur’an 9:29)
9:111: “Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon Allah in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Koran; and who fulfils his covenant truer than Allah? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph.”
9:123: “O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.”
47:4: “When you meet the unbelievers, smite their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads. So it shall be; and if Allah had willed, He would have avenged Himself upon them; but that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will not send their works astray.”
The professor said that instead, to get to the heart of true Islam one has to go back to the sources of [sic] in order to see the real divine message and understand what God is really mandating.
Mercy, Khan said, “is so embedded in Islam that in several places within the Quran it says ‘and establish regular prayer and charity.’”
Regular prayer (salat) and charity (zakat) are two of the five pillars of Islam. Muslims are obligated to perform them. Zakat, however, is restricted to Muslims only. Khan doesn’t seem to have touched on the crucial question: does Islam extend mercy to unbelievers? Did he mention that sura 9, the chapter of the Qur’an containing the exhortation to wage war against and subjugate the People of the Book, is the only one of the Qur’an’s 114 chapters that does not begin with Bismillah ar-Rahman ar-Rahim — “In the name of Allah, the compassionate, the merciful”? The Islamic scholar Al-Hakim says that Muhammad not only didn’t recite the Bismillah himself when reciting this chapter, but commanded that it not be recited. Why not? The Tafsir al-Jalalayn explains Muhammad’s command by saying that the Bismillah “is security, and [sura 9] was sent down when security was removed by the sword. One of Muhammad’s earliest followers, Ali ibn Abi Talib, agrees, saying that the Bismillah “conveys security while this sura was sent down with the sword. That is why it does not begin with security.” The Tafsir al-Jalalayn adds that “Hudhayfa reports that they called it the Sura of Repentance, while it is, in fact, the Sura of Punishment.” Punishment, that is, of the unbelievers.
He noted how two of the 99 attributes Muslims recognize in God are “all-merciful” and “ever-merciful.” These phrases, he added, are invoked at least 17 different times during the five daily prayers Muslims recite throughout the day.
Yes, because they’re in the Fatihah, the Qur’an’s first chapter, which pious Muslims will recite 17 times during the five daily prayers. The final two verses of the Fatihah ask Allah: “Guide us to the straight path, the path of those upon whom you have bestowed favor, not of those who have evoked anger or of those who are astray.” The traditional Islamic understanding of this is that the “straight path” is Islam — cf. Islamic apologist John Esposito’s book Islam: The Straight Path — while the path “of those who have evoked Allah’s anger” are the Jews, and those who have gone “astray” are the Christians. The classic Qur’anic commentator Ibn Kathir explains that “the two paths He described here are both misguided,” and that those “two paths are the paths of the Christians and Jews, a fact that the believer should beware of so that he avoids them. The path of the believers is knowledge of the truth and abiding by it. In comparison, the Jews abandoned practicing the religion, while the Christians lost the true knowledge. This is why ‘anger’ descended upon the Jews, while being described as ‘led astray’ is more appropriate of the Christians.” This is the view of Tabari, Zamakhshari, the Tafsir al-Jalalayn, the Tanwir al-Miqbas min Tafsir Ibn Abbas, and Ibn Arabi, as well as Ibn Kathir. Did Khan discuss this? Why not?
The terms are also invoked by Muslims before they embark on “any act or deed,” so therefore the concept of an all-merciful God also exists in Islam, the professor explained.
When it comes to verses in the Quran supporting vengeance and violence such as death by the sword, Khan said that Islam is “a totalistic religion” which also provides instructions on what to do in a time of war, persecution or when one’s life is threatened.
He acknowledged that there are sanctions for war and for committing physical violence in the Quran, but said they are “a last resort,” and are heavily regulated to societies that would otherwise be “very unregulated, very anarchic, even more brutal than they already are.”
It is a shame that none of the assembled Catholic theologians asked him at that point if he thought that the Islamic State was misusing these sanctions for war, and if so, in exactly what way.
But of course none of them did. “Catholic-Muslim dialogue,” you see, is not really about genuine discussion or trying to come to new understandings. It’s just a feelgood session for the Catholics, who go away congratulating themselves on how ecumenical and open-minded they are, and a sly dawah session for the Muslims. And this goes on right in the Vatican, where there ought to be at least someone who knows better, but clearly there isn’t.

ainu888 says
I don’t want to be the recipient of that kind of “mercy”. So, let’s see what this kind of mercy entails: firstly, it means proselytize me, then evaluate me on how often and how well I pray, how I stick to the code book, and , if all else fails, behead me.
No thank you.
Infidel from Down Under says
Its a common practise these days for Conferences to have a comedian at some stage, just to get delegates to relax and to break things a bit
David Jasmer says
The comedian speaks toro poo-poo!
Barbc says
How a group of supposedly smart and well educated men can be so dumb!
I guess Islam’s definition of mercy is different from my definition.
Jaladhi says
No they are not so dumb – they evil and liars!!
Barbc says
I am Catholic. I have not left Christ’s teaching but the administrators have certainly left a lot of common sense in the trash heap.
Every time this pope bends over backwards I think of
BOHICA bend over here it comes again
Jaladhi says
And all these Muslim “experts” of Islam are liars and nothing else!! They have also roped in the Western apologists who also lie like sieve when describing Islam.
I can tell them in a nutshell – Islam is evil, evil and pure evil. There is nothing like mercy, kindness, conscience, truth telling, only lies, hypocrisy, terror. and everything else that a human being abhors!
Luimar Zibetti Garza says
First let’s talk about the CORE CORE of Islam:
Taqiyya and Tararrushing….
Once we get those issues down pat as to what they mean EXACTLY and how it applies to non-muslims, we’ll consider your CORE ideal…
In the meantime, GTFO my weed infested lawn with your Taqiyya tongue and your tararrushing of our 10 year old children, because you can’t fcuken find a goat.
And for those that DON’T know…understand that EVERY muslim who practices the Taqiyya and Tararrush….more than likely went through a tararrushing “hazing” period when THEY were 10 years old, but of course….they are fully instructed to taqiyya about it.
Thus…there is not ONE word uttered by ANY and ALL practicing muslims….that can be trusted… it is either a lie…a lie about the truth…
There is no middle ground afforded their reasoning….and it’s THEIR rules…not ours.
shall we set our agenda for the debate?
mortimer says
The twin core of Islam: obsessions with violence and sex.
underbed cat says
This is known as” know your audience’. First you must become a scholar in the faith of deception to which you were born, then find an audience unfamiliar with sharia law, or the command to misdirect about the ideology and who assume all religions are equally concerned with humanity that the very words could never have a alternate meaning and could never be intrinsic in jihad terrorism, you have free sailing. This is actually required to deny all the savagery., have the backup of the organizations to demonize anyone who says differently so that all the misinformation can spread…and get some type of cover until free speech is altered so one cannot expose that which would strip the power away and crimminalize those who speak the truth and know what anyone could find if they took the time to read.
underbed cat says
Then the question of the suicide bomber comes up and it will be immediately be responded as a radicalized terrorist, who should know that he is not allowed to commit suicide…..a martyr is a suicide act intended to take others who he considers infidels, and fly to meet the virgins This part he could never admit ….and could pass it off as “radicalize” instead of being a martyr….it has no part, but except it does.
He is just doing his job, to misdirect sincerely. Clever ah very clever.
Rob says
Presumably this jerk walked into the Vatican via a wall erected to keep out Muslims who wanted to show their mercy to the inhabitants.
mortimer says
Brilliant comment from Rob!
This liar, Khan, is using the ‘fallacy of ambiguity’. To a Muslim, ‘mercy’ means invading infidels and enslaving them. Khan uses ‘mercy’, but he deliberately conceals that Muslims use the word ‘mercy’ to mean something like ‘Islamic opportunism’.
The Vatican built substantial fortifications to prevent further Muslim demonstrations of ‘mercy’ in Rome.
The crusades began in 1095 AD, in response to three centuries of Muslim attacks on Constantinople and Rome.
Khan’s deliberate distortion of the word ‘mercy’ is typical taqiyya.
Paleologos says
What a clown this Khan is. … about as full of himself as the Star Trek Khan. …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRnSnfiUI54
Such a convenient and selective quoting of Benedict, who really “gets” the evil that is islam. …
… This shows that a very intimate relationship that exists which can only be infused by love, he said. “So when Pope Benedict XVI mentioned in his encyclical that the primacy of love and how God then manifests that love then to his creation that is also an Islamic concept.” …
Of course, Mr. Khan, don’t talk about Benedict’s Regensburg address, where he confronts islam on the merits: …
http://w2.vatican.va/content/benedict-xvi/en/speeches/2006/september/documents/hf_ben-xvi_spe_20060912_university-regensburg.html …
In the seventh conversation (διάλεξις – controversy) edited by Professor Khoury, the emperor touches on the theme of the holy war. The emperor must have known that surah 2, 256 reads: “There is no compulsion in religion”. According to some of the experts, this is probably one of the suras of the early period, when Mohammed was still powerless and under threat. But naturally the emperor also knew the instructions, developed later and recorded in the Qur’an, concerning holy war. Without descending to details, such as the difference in treatment accorded to those who have the “Book” and the “infidels”, he addresses his interlocutor with a startling brusqueness, a brusqueness that we find unacceptable, on the central question about the relationship between religion and violence in general, saying: “Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached.”[3] The emperor, after having expressed himself so forcefully, goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable. Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul. “God”, he says, “is not pleased by blood – and not acting reasonably (σὺν λόγω) is contrary to God’s nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats… To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death…”.[4]
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Of course, Mr. Khan, don’t talk about the murderous muslim response to Benedict’s Regensburg Address: …
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/nun_murdered_after_muslims_condemn_popes_remarks/
No, No, Mr. Khan, just keep up your lies. The smart Pope, Pope Benedict XVI, who knows you for what you and muslims are, that Pope is unfortunately silent now.
R/
Paleologos
Falsafa says
“It is a shame that none of the assembled Catholic theologians asked him at that point if he thought that the Islamic State was misusing these sanctions for war, and if so, in exactly what way.”
here you go Mr Spencer…all the respected scholars of Islam have signed an open letter answering exactly that question of yours.
http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com
ofcourse your devoted fan club of Islam haters need not bother reading this letter as that would obviously feed their trough of so calles “taqiyya” nonsense.
Paleologos says
Falsafa,
There is no nonsense about taqiyya. There is no nonsense about all the death threats that Robert and Geert Wilders and others get as a penalty for telling the truth about islam. get.
So kindly stop spreading your nonsense, your “taqiyya,” as it were, on this serious board.
R/
Paleologos
JawsV says
Islam deserves to be hated, Muslim. And, “Taqiyya” is not nonsense, as you well know. Muhammad your murderous fake prophet practiced Taqiyya.
Robert Spencer says
Falsafa
Here is the truth about that cynical and deceptive “letter to Baghdadi”:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/09/international-group-of-muslim-scholars-refutes-islamic-states-islamic-case-while-endorsing-jihad-sharia-caliphate
Rob says
A senior faculty member at Al Azhar U in Cairo has stated that ISIS is not heretical and a senior female staffer recently declared the Kuffir women should be raped as it’s the best way to humiliate them.
Al Azhar being of course the same place BHO spoke at early in his Messianic Mission ooops Presidency.
Wellington says
Robert Spencer, Falsafa, essentially handed you your butt on a platter with his 3:54 P.M. response to you, specifically the link he provided which shows the many deceptions in that “letter to Baghdad” you referenced.
I doubt, though, you will respond because so many Muslims who post here, or dhimmi apologists for Islam who do so, have NOTHIN’. It’s all smoke and mirrors and that’s it and that’s why ordinarily those like you are “one-hit non-wonders” on so many threads here at JW. You post rubbish and run. But by all means, post again on this thread and tell us all, many of whom are quite knowledgeable about Islam and the many word games Islam plays, why we are wrong and haters and why you are right, why Islam is full of mercy, tolerance and peace.
Yeah, give it a shot. I say you won’t and even if you do you will fail miserably because way too many regulars here at JW know Islam well enough to know it is a mortal enemy of liberty and equality under the law. Prove me wrong. I say you can’t.
Jay Boo says
Wellington your comment is garbled
Apparently you are challenging Falsafa
But your paragraphs don’t mesh well this time.
Mirren10 says
Piss off, Jay Boo.
Wellington has never made a garbled post yet.
Unfortunately one can’t say the same for you.
There! Happy now ? You got some attention ! Idiot.
Jay Boo says
Name reversal
I believe that Wellington meant to say.
Falsafa, Robert Spencer essentially handed you your butt on a platter with his 3:54 P.M. response to you, specifically the link he provided which shows the many deceptions in that “letter to Baghdad” you referenced.
gravenimage says
The absurdly self-styled “Falsafa” wrote:
“It is a shame that none of the assembled Catholic theologians asked him at that point if he thought that the Islamic State was misusing these sanctions for war, and if so, in exactly what way.”
here you go Mr Spencer…all the respected scholars of Islam have signed an open letter answering exactly that question of yours.
http://www.lettertobaghdadi.com
……………………………
Yeah–I’ve waded though all 50+ tedious pages of this rot. The thing that is most striking is what weak tea it is.
Firstly, it fully *confirms* that violent Jihad, brutal Shari’ah law, demands for Jizya, and slavery are all perfectly Islamic–it just quibbles over whether Al Baghdadi is qualified to declare a Caliphate and over his use of Takfir–that is, they take issue with who specifically ISIS has decided are to be deemed un-Islamic.
And, as Robert Spencer ably notes, while this letter questions whether the Islamic State is qualified to issue Fatwas, this letter is not *itself* a Fatwa–in other words, it carries no official weight. So, weak as it is, it is not to be taken seriously in any case.
But “Falsafa” hopes the ‘filthy Infidels’ here will not know that.
In other words, this letter and “Falsafa’s” posting it here are *both* Taqiyya–or, if he prefers a Sunni term, it is Muda’rat (deceit for the purpose of spreading Islam).
This letter primarily applies two specific forms of Muda’rat–Kitman (deceit by omission), and Tawriya (deceit by ambiguity).
celticwarriorcanada says
Mercy Based on What ? the whims and sentiments of the Caliph ? A mercy which has it’s Roots in Roman Catholicism ! So Is this Perhaps The Mercy of Mary ? National Geographics 2015 EDITION Highlights The Veneration Of Mary as Practiced by Some Muslims , and Suggests She is and will become the Matriarch of Interfaith Dialogue and Relations between Islam and Roman Catholicism ! P.S. Whatever happened to the Historical Catholicism of Ireneus , St. Augustine, Cyprian , Athanasius , Etc ?A Catholicism which Originally taught that Arianism was HERESY ! and to DENY THE Doctrine of THE TRINITY WAS ANATHEMA !!!
Barbc says
The Twenty first century had better have the crusades again. Men who knew if they did not fight an enemy so violent that only death was the to win against this enemy. These men were not politically correct and did not worry about hurt feelings.
I am not trusting this pope more and more. He talks the talk. But I am afraid he does not have what it takes to fight the fight.
JawsV says
The problem is – the Crusaders lost. They were too late. By the late 11th century there were too many Muslims.
Rob says
According to Bernard Lewis the Muslims were fairly relaxed about the Crusader presence in Jerusalem and it was only when they entered the Arabian Pen. and threatened Mecca and Medina that things got nasty.
gravenimage says
Yes–the Crusaders *did* ultimately lose. But I believe they did quite a bit to contain Islam–to an extent, at least.
Islam’s days of conquest in Western Europe were over after the Crusades, and one can make a good argument for the mounting of the Crusades being a big part of the reason why this was so.
boakai ngombu says
in a simpler time i learned that the mosque (the slaves of allah, sunni variety) appreciated Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount where He said: Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy …” (Mt. 5:7, ESV)
some of the older slaves of allah understood Jesus to say, that: upon receiving the blessings from Yahweh, an individual can become merciful (to them Yahweh and allah were the same). but one old man named, Jonah, reasoned that since Jesus in the same sermon referred to Yahweh as Father, while teaching about praying, … “Jesus was wrong. he should have been talking about allah,” was about what he said.
well, the allah god of islam (unknowable; the best of all deceivers) is belligerent and malevolent, in that it would limit to whom mercy is shown, as noted by Robert in his comments above:
Did he explain the implications of the Qur’an verse that explicitly rejects the extension of mercy to non-Muslims: “Muhammad is the apostle of Allah. Those who follow him are merciful to one another, ruthless to unbelievers” (48:29)?
the Koran is heard and the SHARIA (enslavement tool) is obeyed and the true knowledge of Yahweh’s Mercy is not known – even in prayers. the slaves of allah become deficient. enslaved, they are as people drowned, so depraved are they for anything capable of giving life – which truly comes from Yahweh, for Jesus’ sake.
gravenimage says
Yes–the Muslim “Jesus”–really, “Isa”–is very different from the Jesus of the Gospels.
Muslims believe the Bible was “corrupted” by Christians, and that includes the Sermon on the Mount.
JawsV says
Al-Taqiyya at it’s finest.
JawsV says
“Kill the infidels” Islamic Jihad is the core of Islam.
Angemon says
Huh, no. If those societies converted to Christianity, or Judaism, or Buddhism, to name a few, they’d be less violent and brutal than they are now under islam. His explanation also fails to explain the blitzkrieg waged by Arabs and North African converts right after the supposed death of muhammad, not to mention during the rest of islamic history. Were the people minding their own business in Vienna, 1683, unregulated, archaic or anarchic? Of course not.
Barbc says
Vienna official win was Sept. 11. Does that date sound familiar?
JawsV says
Battle of Vienna – Sept 11-12, 1683. The Ottoman Turks (Muslims) lost.
That’s why OBL chose Sept 11 for his Jihad. The symbolism is very important to the Mohammedans.
Barbc says
1697 is another year the Christians beat Islam. The Battle of Zenta.
We need a leader like Jan Sobieski. A shame Poland was torn apart by the neighboring countries.
September 11, 1697. Prince Eugene of Savoy and his troops killed 20,000 Ottomans,
Muslims wanted Vienna as a gateway to the rest of Europe. What is it that the rest of us can not and do not remember our history. Yes politically correct education deprives us of the truth. An honest education of the facts is the first step to knowing who and what the enemy is.
Hope says
Khan’s comment that God is “closer to you than your own jugular vein” is an unfortunate choice of words indeed. I think we’ve all seen enough demonstrations of Islam’s affinity for the human jugular vein.
BlueRaven says
RS -> ” And this goes on right in the Vatican, where there ought to be at least someone who knows better, but clearly there isn’t.”
A simple question could put Islam to its test and Khan’s bla bla to rest – “Why don’t they believe JC was Crucified?”
BlueRaven says
I think Vaticans do not know their Bible well – doesn’t it state in there there will be a false Prohphet ?
Barbc says
Far more recently when the Blessed Mother appear at Fatima to the three children, she warned of the church would be infiltrated by heretics. Considering how many time this pope has to have what he says be clarified ? ? ?
mortimer says
‘Mercy’ in Islamic theology is entirely a different concept from ‘mercy’ in Christian theology.
‘Mercy’ in Islam means anything that advances Islamic supremacism.
‘Mercy’ in Islam is the methods used by Muslims to force dirty kafirs to submit to Islam, such as jihad, warfare, torture, enslavement, extortion, bribery, rape or forcible conversion or forcible marriage.
‘Mercy’ in Islam means whatever is convenient for Muslim males and inconvenient for dirty kafirs and women.
Osama bin Laden said that by attacking New York City and Washington D.C., that it was a ‘mercy’ to the Americans, since it would make them convert to Islam.
In Islam, removing a person’s freedom of choice and making that person a slave is called ‘mercy’.
The goal of Christianity is freedom, so the concept of ‘mercy’ is non-compulsion and freedom of choice. Islam’s means ‘slavery’, the goal of Islam is slavery and the reward of Islamic life is slavery in paradise.
Slavery in Christianity is the reverse of ‘mercy’.
mortimer says
‘Mercy’ in Islam means helping Muslim males to be supreme over you. With that Islamic concept of ‘mercy’ in mind, every time a Muslim rapes you, beats you, robs you, burns your house or your church down, cheats you, persecutes you or blows up the town market…REMEMBER…IT’S ‘MERCY’ towards the dirty kafirs.
When Muslims are terrorists…their doing it FOR OUR OWN GOOD!
gravenimage says
All true, Mortimer–that is why the arrival of the violent “Prophet” Muhammed is referred to as a “mercy” to mankind.
Voytek Gagalka says
“Mercy” in Islam? Probably only in the sense that non-believers will beg Mohammedans for mercy in futile hope that it will be granted. Oh, it will be granted but they will not like to have such outcome!
pennant says
Check out this website http://www.mercytoallmankind.com
I believe it is run by the Islamic Society of Boston.
The Boston Globe Sunday Feb 28 ran a story about that mosque holding a love-fest with the Smedly Butler Brigade, an anti-war veterans group that dates back to the Reagan years. There is a photo of a Muslim woman holding a large sign advertising this organization. Looks like the word “mercy” will be the latest taqiyya effort.
Dan Jones says
The followers of the pedophile mo-ham-is-mad have no clue what mercy is…
More End Time News At:
http://www.shininginthedark.com/?page_id=6088
dajjal says
Mercy: in a pig’s anus! The first and third volumes of Mishkat Ul-Misabih contain an Islamic creation myth in which Allak creates the Black race “for the fire” and says “and I don’t care”.
sheik yer'mami says
Each and every Mohammedan is a taqiyya gigolo. Its about time the world wizens up to their deception.
mortimer says
‘Mercy’ and ‘charity’ in Islam are not for the kafir. Not a cent of Islamic zakat (charity tax) may be given to a kafir. Zakat only benefits Muslims.
By telling Roman Catholic VIPs that the Catholic concept of charity is the Islamic one, Professor Saeed Khan has become a con. He is GREATLY insulting their intelligence. It is bound to come out later. Some theologian will point out the truth.
French Islamologist Anne-Marie Delcambre said, ‘We are in a campaign of criminal disinformation about Islam.’
Here is the criminal disinformation: Saeed Khan, professional taqiyya artist and con man.
There is no mercy in Islam for the kafir. There is no good in Islam for the kafir.
Islam is dualistic. The Koran is a supremacist manifesto. In the Koran, ‘mercy’ means Islamic male supremacism and nothing else. Kafirs must be enslaved or converted. That is not ‘mercy’, but subjugation.
In the Koran, Allah’s supremacist ‘mercy’ ONLY goes to Muslim males.
DaveJ says
There is no “mercy” in Islam – look at their treatment of women and children and prisoners. These “scholars” and apologists are working for Satan and are well paid for their services.
Islam is a violent and obsessive cult that thinks it should rule the world. We must fight them the way we fought the Nazis and the Japanese aggressors.
David says
I’m sorry, but that’s a mistake. Mercy has nothing what so ever to do with modern islam, as it is practiced. Islam is all about hatred of anyone or anything “not of our cult, not of our sect.”
This of course is the inheritance of the cults true founder (SATAN!)
FACT: Even the psycopathic profit of islam, recognized, at the time of his very first “vision”, that it was something of pure EVIL not good, that he had encountered.
It was not without good reason that “the profit” immediately tried to KILL HIMSELF right after that very first “visitation”
For neatly 14 Centurys, islam legacy has been drenched in the very life’s blood of it’s innocent victims.
SATAN must be very happy with his counterfeit.
Gretchen says
The Muslims think that killing nonbelievers is having mercy, and telling a lie is fine in the name of their God.
Mirren10 says
Piss off, Jay Boo.
Wellington has never made a garbled post yet.
Unfortunately one can’t say the same for you.
There! Happy now ? You got some attention ! Idiot.
gravenimage says
Muslim scholar tells Vatican conference that mercy is “the core of Islam”
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My God, what crap. On of the few times the Qur’an mentions mercy at all it tells Muslims to be merciful to each other–but harsh to the unbelievers.
And the baleful deity “Allah” is referred to as “the merciful”–as a rule, right before he does something unbelievably vicious. So calling him “the merciful” is more a verbal talisman–a warding off–than it is a genuine description.
This from Saeed Khan is nothing but Taqiyya. But this is not the first time he has done this, for instance blaming our involvement in Iraq for sectarian Sunni/Shi’ite Muslim violence in Dearborn, Michigan.
But his main focus has been in snowing Christians about Islam.
This article starts with “Saeed Khan wants to help you become a better Christian.”. This is usually code for the Muslim line that one is not a “true” Christian if one opposes the violence of Islam in any way. Easy to see why this is a popular tack for Muslim apologists to take.
“Muslims among us”
http://www.christianchronicle.org/article/muslims-among-us
More:
In his comments to CNA, Khan said the Islamic concept of God’s closeness to humanity is that he “is closer to you than your own jugular vein.”
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This is Qur’an 50:16. Note Khan doesn’t quote the *rest* of the Sura, including Qur’an 50:20: “And the Horn will be blown. That is the Day of [carrying out] the threat.” What follows are threats to unbelievers-**not* “a very intimate relationship that exists which can only be infused by love”.
More:
Khan said mercy is also closely linked to the concept of charity. In Islam, charity is “a devise of mercy” that goes beyond providing material needs such as food and clothing, but reaches the spiritual level, he said.
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What rot. “Zakat” is usually translated as “charity”, but actually is more likely to involve funding violent Jihad than in feeding the poor of tending to the ill.
This is why so much charity in the Muslim world is actually provided by the filthy Infidels like these credulous Catholics.
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As an example, he pointed to a famous saying of the Prophet Mohamed that “even a smile is a form of charity”
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I’ve been studying Islam fairly intensively since 9/11 and have *never* run across this saying.
The only reference I could find to this questionable Hadith is from a collection with the generic name of “Fiqh-us-Sunnah”–it does not appear to be included in the Sahih (deemed reliable) collections of Bukhari or Muslim.
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The terms are also invoked by Muslims before they embark on “any act or deed,” so therefore the concept of an all-merciful God also exists in Islam, the professor explained.
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“Any act or deed”–this is true. Khan will not tell you that this includes embarking on committing acts of Jihad such as raping or murdering Infidels, which rather changes the meaning….
George Kadlec says
““It would take too long to tell you all the stories about this famous impostor (…) Mohamed’s religion consists of a monstrous mixture of Judaism, Paganism and Christianity. Mohamed propagated his religion, not through miracles or persuasive words, but through the force of arms. [It is] a religion that favors every sort of licentiousness and which, in a short time, allowed Mohamed to become the leader of a troop of brigands. Along with them he raided the countries of the East and conquered the people, not by introducing the Truth, not by miracles or prophecy; but for one reason only: to raise his sword over the heads of the conquered shouting: believe or die.” — St. John BoscoIt would take too long to tell you all the stories about this famous impostor (…) Mohamed’s religion consists of a monstrous mixture of Judaism, Paganism and Christianity. Mohamed propagated his religion, not through miracles or persuasive words, but through the force of arms. [It is] a religion that favors every sort of licentiousness and which, in a short time, allowed Mohamed to become the leader of a troop of brigands. Along with them he raided the countries of the East and conquered the people, not by introducing the Truth, not by miracles or prophecy; but for one reason only: to raise his sword over the heads of the conquered shouting: ” — St. John Bosco
Barbc says
Mohamed reminds me of 20th century sociopath. His conducts fits the description. His actions reminds me of the cult leaders of the various groups who committed mass murder of their respective groups. The rules of member ship are to similar.
More Ham Ed says
According to a 2013 secular left-leaning poll, there are at least 400 MILLION muslims worldwide (probably more than 400 million) that believe in the death penalty for leaving islam. How “merciful.”
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/04/30/the-worlds-muslims-religion-politics-society-beliefs-about-sharia
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com
Robert Siena says
The Spiritual Works of Mercy in the Roman Catholic Church: To bear wrongs patiently; To forgive offenses willingly . . . those are the two that do not exist in the Submission Religion.