In five or ten more years, when there are majority-Muslim areas in Britain, do you think there will be beautiful multicultural harmony? Or do you think Muslims will be making increasingly aggressive demands for implementation of Sharia provisions? If you think the latter, you’re a greasy Islamophobe, and the British government hates you. You’re also correct.
“Muslims in UK top 3million for first time,” The Sun, February 1, 2016:
BRITAIN is home to more than 3 million Muslims for the first time ever with more than half born outside the UK, according to new figures.
Soaring immigration and sky high birth rates have seen the number in the country double in a little over a decade.
Some parts of London are now almost 50 per cent Islamic, according to analysis from the Office for National Statistics.
If current trends continue the areas could become majority Muslim within ten years.
One in four Muslims in England and Wales are under ten years old than in any other age group indicating a very high birth rate within the community.
Followers of Islam now make up one in every 20 people within the country….
Across the country there are now 3,114,992 Muslims with 1,554022 born overseas and they now make up 5.4% of the population of England and Wales.
The number has more than trebled in the last quarter of a century when less than a million were in the country in 1991….

jihad3tracker says
+++++ HERE IS AN ITEM FROM THE BRILLIANT MARK STEYN (AND I USE THAT ADJECTIVE TO VERY FEW COUNTER-JIHADISTS). +++++
http://www.steynonline.com/7428/it-still-the-demography-stupid
IT APPLIES TO ANY NATION WHERE MUSLIMS HAVE REACHED A PERCENTAGE OF POPULATION.
Send it on to your family, friends, clueless national and state elected officials, and privilege-guilt clergy at your place of worship.
خَليفة says
Thanks for the link.
Worth reading.
Hope says
Man, that is scary. I feel nauseous.
jihad3tracker says
Hello Hope — Yes, Mark Steyn’s facts about Muslim birthrates WILL scare citizens of Western nations.
If readers here are parents in your 30s and 40s — or have brothers and sisters of those ages — please find undistracted time to read his warning.
Your children will live for many years coming ahead into decades when Islam will try to overtake the United States, and Leftist mainstream media continually find a way to lie..
TELL YOUR CHILDREN THAT DEVOUT ORTHODOX MUSLIMS INTEND TO SUBJUGATE OR KILL THEM
If enough of us get this clearly telegraphed on our comfy distracted young American kids and teens, maybe there will be a pushback.
No guarantee unless everyone of us jumps into the fight.
DFD says
Hope says “Man, that is scary. I feel nauseous.”
You think that’s scary? Should be good news. Let me put it this way: In 1975/6 the figure for the UK’s Muslim population was reported in several papers as 3.7 million.
Though, I wonder to where the 700,000+ Muslims have disappeared to. They can’t be all on Jihad in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Nigeria, and errr…
Also, what about their birthrate? And, what about all those who came in over the years? Any stats for that?
I hate to tell you this, but that info about 3 million Muslims currently in the UK (or near future) stems from the same source(s) that assure us constantly that “this.. whatever…has nothing to do with Islam”.
Now I know, those 700,000 who have disappeared during the last 39 years, they have left Islam and thus they have nothing to do with Islam. Ditto for all the comers/colonists. That leaves the birthrate. I think I can guess: Babies. They have nothing to do with Islam, just ask a newly borne about his/her religion – baaahhhhh, not nice, give ’em a pacifier. There you are.
Since this article will attract UK readers, please, those of you who haven’t already done so, sign the petition below. It’s ban the Sharia in the UK, EVERY VOTE COUNTS! And pass the link to any friend you can.
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/107864
Today please, not tomorrow
and thanks, DFD
PS: The article said: “The number has more than trebled in the last quarter of a century when less than a million were in the country in 1991….”
Hilarious!
gravenimage says
DFD wrote:
Hope says “Man, that is scary. I feel nauseous.”
You think that’s scary? Should be good news. Let me put it this way: In 1975/6 the figure for the UK’s Muslim population was reported in several papers as 3.7 million…
………………………………
Most estimates I have seen from this period put the Muslim population of Britain in 1975 at no more than a million, DFD, and many at less than that.
Can you tell us which newspapers posited the Muslim population at 3.7 million in 1975?
DFD says
PS:
Hope, if you really want to learn about something dcary got to a comment of mine on Jihadwatch, link http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/01/tsunami-of-money-from-saudi-arabia-funding-24000-madrassas-in-pakistan/comment-page-1#comment-1370738
If interested reply there and I’ll let you read something REALLY SCARY!
Rgds
DFD
DFD says
gravenimage says “…..Most estimates I have seen from this period put the Muslim population of Britain in 1975 at no more than a million, DFD, and many at less than that…. Can you tell us which newspapers posited the Muslim population at 3.7 million in 1975?”
Unfortunately no. I read that 39-40 years ago, and I definitely didn’t take notes. PC’s were probably a dream in Steve Jobs and Bill Gates’ eyes… Nothing to bookmark or to save to a directory for later reference. Also, I wasn’t particularly concerned then. I am sure it was one of the major periodicals, Daily Express, Telegraph, Times, Mail, Sun – one of these, the kind you find in Pubs. There were quite a few such articles, I recall. People expressed concerns about their ever increasing numbers.
gravenimage says
Thanks for your reply, DFD.
Ned says
Mark Steyn is spot on!
“Can a society become increasingly Islamic in its demographic character without becoming increasingly Islamic in its political character?”
The answer is NO! The new MAJORITY will rule unless …. SOMEONE wakes up!
Panmelia says
The main hope for the UK is that we vote to LEAVE the EU this year and control our own borders, immigration system, human rights laws and all our laws from then on. As a result, with the help of UKIP, our 3rd largest political party,the discredited ideology of multiculturalism will be swept away, along with the self-destroying islamisation of our country and the increasing influence of sharia law.
To promote ISIL in this country is against the law, but on pavements in London jihadists set out stalls, handing out literature to witless youths promoting their toxic message. As long as they don’t mention ISIL, they are allowed to get away with that and much more in the way of spreading their anti-British hate in mosques, on campuses and muslim youth groups. All this must stop and a new culture fostered: this is Britain – love it or leave it and never return.
The alternative is a bloody civil war sometime in the future. We haven’t had a civil war since the 17th century and I hope I don’t live to see another.
Linda Rivera says
UKIP wants to get Britain out of the EU which is desperately needed. The sad thing is that UKIP will not do anything about Islam. Patriotic groups are barred from being members of UKIP whilst Muslims are WELCOME. Muslims also run as MPs and other political positions for UKIP. It’s ALL very tragic and sad for Britain.
In addition, all of the major and minor Christian churches in Britain strongly support Muslims and Islam. And refuse to say a word for Islam’s many victims. They only speak in support of Muslims.
DFD says
Linda Rivera says “…The sad thing is that UKIP will not do anything about Islam. Patriotic groups are barred from being members of UKIP whilst Muslims are WELCOME. Muslims also run as MPs and other political positions for UKIP. It’s ALL very tragic and sad for Britain…
In addition, all of the major and minor Christian churches in Britain strongly support Muslims and Islam. And refuse to say a word for Islam’s many victims. They only speak in support of Muslims…”
Yeah, makes one want to vomit!
Lia Wissing says
Time for the Brits to ask for asylum in Israel.
John Stefan Obeda says
I feel very sorry for my family that I will leave for them such a dangerous and evil world and at the present time they have no clue. I’ll send them Steyn’s article. Of course, they’ll probably consider me getting rather odd in my days of retirement. Why are the people of democracies so very blind and unprepared in dealing with their enemy Islam who is within and without. “God, help us in spite of our sins.”
Don McKellar says
What a nightmare. Cameron and his predecessor Blair will live in infamy and be cursed by future generations of UK residents from the beginnings of the civil war and for a century afterwards.
RiseAKnight says
If the Brits live that long.
DP111 says
A matter of great concern is that the BBC has become the main ally and propagandiser of Islam. The BBC has global reach, and relies on its credibility gained in times past.
A link that may be of interest
http://biasedbbc.org/blog/2016/02/02/prevent-prevent/
salim says
I don’t believe this, how do they come with these numbers? I personally believe the numbers to be far higher.
When I go to town, Muslims seem to make almost 15-20% of those in the streets, ditto the supermarkets and shopping malls. In primary schools over one third of children are muslims. My neighbour is a doctor and she says that about 20% of her patients are with muslims names.
It gets worse in London and big cities. I suspect the government plays down the number of Muslim to keep them calm until its too late.
Greyhound Fancier says
I think it’s because the Moslems are jobless and have all the time in the world to frequent the shops.
Peggy says
We, working population have no time and no money to go shopping as much as the unemployed Muslims.
How did that happen?
Angel Gabriel says
“Followers of Islam now make up one in every 20 people within the country”
I would rephrase that to read “anti-semites, homophobes, misogynists, rapists and terrorists now make up one in every 20 people within the country”.
David Scoltock says
1 in 20? The Population of the UK is 64million.
CogitoErgoSum says
1/20 = 5% 64 million X 5% = 3.2 million
Dan Jones says
The are going to take over Europe soon…
More End Time News At:
http://www.shininginthedark.com/?page_id=4526
Infidel from Down Under says
So what did Donald Trump say that was not true about muslims in the UK?
RiseAKnight says
Nothing a lot of average U.S. citizens are saying and others world-wide are thinking. If he is elected president … like we say in the U.S. … “You ain’t seen nothing, yet!”
sam says
How would they know if they never ask anyone about religion? May be that number is only for Pakistani/Bengali muslims.
Didymus says
Robert is wrong; again. There are 3m official Muslims but almost the same number again who have weaselled in unofficially
Regards
Didymus
gravenimage says
The article above is from The Sun. Saying “Robert is wrong again” is absurd. And the article in The Sun notes that there are *over* three million Muslims there.
ICH says
Didymus-quit being a douche
Angemon says
Now, I’m not a fancy-pants career weathercock politician like Mr. Cameron, but it seems to me that the UK can potentially cut their muslim population by more than half if they start adopting the practice of deporting foreign-born criminals and their families. Even more if they start stripping citizenship and deporting UK-born dual citizens. At the same time, the muslims whose ID card only reads “Citizenship: British” would get the idea: you step off the sidewalk, you get the full force of the law. That should make them think twice before trying to wage jihad, whether by pen or gun.
Peggy says
They probably could but they don’t want to.
If they are prepared to keep brining more in they have no intention of controlling anything but the native British population.
Pong says
They might think twice, but will continue to do the same. Jihad is not a choice, it is an obligation.
cs says
LET’S CELEBRATE DIVERSITY!!!!!!
(and rape and pedophilia that comes with it).
CogitoErgoSum says
Muslims are obligated by the Quran to fight until the Jews and Christians all pay the jizya with humble submission and all religion is for Allah. This command is in the Quran. It is the will of Allah. It cannot be changed by any human being. Muhammad told his followers they could live peacefully among unbelievers without putting Allah’s will into effect IF the unbelievers were too numerous or were too powerful for the Muslims to bring them into submission. BUT once the Muslims rise to a position of strength they are to enforce the will of Allah. Even those Muslims who are happy with the way things are now will eventually be coerced by more observant Muslims into doing what the Quran says ALL Muslims should do. Sorry Britain, sorry Sweden, Germany and all countries which now welcome Muslims with open arms. Sharia …or a bitter struggle against it …. is what awaits. It lies dormant for now but the sleeping dragon will awaken eventually.
gravenimage says
Muslims in the UK top 3 million, some parts of London almost 50% Muslim
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That makes Britain over 5% Muslim now–and these are just the official figures. The are in the process of turning one of the world;s great cities into an Islamic hell-hole.
I am saddened and *angry* that British authorities are allowing this suicidal madness.
And things bode even worse for the future:
“Muhammad is Britain’s most popular boys name”
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/08/muhammad-is-britains-most-popular-boys-name
DFD says
gravenimage says “….I am saddened and *angry* that British authorities are allowing this suicidal madness….”
If that makes you sad and angry, sorry, the numbers are wrong. Please go further up and see my reply to ‘Hope’; in 1975-76 the number was reported as 3.5 or 3.7 million! Take a deep breath and work out the real numbers.
————
Gravenimage, you gather that I value your opinion and read your posts. So, talk about numbers, I invited you and some others in a reply to Charli Main, Myxlplik, yourself,wellington, western canadian.. in/at http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/01/tsunami-of-money-from-saudi-arabia-funding-24000-madrassas-in-pakistan/comment-page-1#comment-1370738
The problem is that no real discussions can develop, since we are all busy commenting on the latest posts. But as I said, I do value your opinion, and those of several others too, so if you could trouble yourself… If you want to read, that is want me to transmit that excerpt, then get ready to be REALLY saddened and angry.
Kind regards
DFD
gravenimage says
With all respect, DFD, I *do not* believe the Muslim population in Britain is dropping–instead, it is mushrooming all over Europe.
If you have a link to stats with the 3.7 million figure for 1975, I would be glad to see it.
Now, I also believe that the 3 million figure is probably on the low side, since it likely does not take illegal Muslim immigration into account. This article shows it is a significant issue there:
“Britain Just Made These HUGE Moves to BAN Illegal Alien Muslims”
http://toprightnews.com/britain-just-made-these-huge-moves-to-ban-illegal-alien-muslims
I hope Britain *does* crack down in illegal Muslim aliens, but I’ll believe it when I see it.
DFD says
gravenimage says “With all respect, DFD, I *do not* believe the Muslim population in Britain is dropping–instead, it is mushrooming all over Europe….I hope Britain *does* crack down in illegal Muslim aliens, but I’ll believe it when I see it.”
Hehe, I was sarcastic when I said ‘Muslim population dropping’. Grin. That number of 3.5 million was from 1976, reported in various newspapers. Statistics, there was internet then, even if you go for stats now, I think they will turked. People then expressed concern about their growing numbers, so there were press releases, and these stated that there’s nothing to worry about, to welcome them, etc., and that there are only 3.5 or 3.7 million of them. I forgot the exact number, was a good touch below four million. That I do remember, sources were some of the major British papers. I think it was ’76. It’s a while ago, so please don’t even ask for the name of the paper, was one of the major ones. But I do remember distinctly the 3.5 or 3.7 million.
That’s why I made fun in my post about the ‘disappearing Muslims’. You have to admit, if there are now 3 million, where did the 500,000 or 700,000 got to? Please, please, re-read that post. I said:
— “Though, I wonder to where the 700,000+ Muslims have disappeared to. They can’t be all on Jihad in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Nigeria, and errr…
Also, what about their birthrate? And, what about all those who came in over the years? Any stats for that?…” —–
And even if there were stats, I wouldn’t believe them. Read the excerpt and you’ll get the idea. Too many converging interests, too much money – and nobody wants to be responsible.
My own guess, at least ten, if not fifteen million, minimum. By now we are running out of housing, and space to built houses on. That’s the reality. Take a look at Bradfordiabad, Londinistan, Dar-al-Luton, and, and, and…
So, I was joking. Please note, thanks.
DFD says
Sorry, typo.
It should have read; “…there was *no* internet then….”
DFD says
Hi gravenimage,
thank you for your reply, I posted. It’s only an excerpt of part 1, more to come. Parts 2 & 3 have been done. Part 4 will be about the triggers the upcoming civil wars, correct, plural.
I had to break the excerpt into three parts, A, B and C. The excerpt itself was too long, their (Jihadwatch) firewall rejected a transmission of that length. The parts are right under your reply. Sorry, there’s loss in formatting/typesetting, caused by the transfer into ‘posting format’. Shouldn’t pose a problem, you are an intelligent fellow.
Before dealing with some points you raised, a bit about me.
I am an engineer, power generation, that means steam and gas turbines. Later I went into commodities, for twenty years as a broker, specialised in crude. Oil that is, did only four cargoes in products, two Mogas, one JP (Jet Fuel) and another in fuel oil, other wise all crude. My smallest deal was 500,000bbls. I did mostly Ras Tanaru and Ras Gharib, Saudi oil terminals. Others sporadically, even some Iranian, yeah, one cargo of Iranian heavy. Operated in both, FOB and CIF, mostly to Europe.
My sources: CIA world fact book, Platts Oilgram, Commodity Research Bureau Inc., Petroleum Argus, Institute of Petroleum (UK), Merryl Lynch / Bache & Co-etcetc. Also, Deutsche Bank, Dresdner Bank. Additionally such sites as Stratfor (.com), and similar, though the internet sites came much later. Last not least, personal connections, just business. Given access to info by friends, you know, that ‘sort of thing’.
There’s more, but that should give you an idea. So, combine that with an interest in history, politics, and then combine that with dealing/broking crude, and in comes Islam. Muslims, you can guess….
OK, one of your questions was about their reserves. Early 80’s estimates ranged from 150 to 250 years, depending upon production level. These figures were from Aramco, Aral and Shell. Plus some others, I forgot which ones. Several of your, very good points, are answered within the excerpt.
The bit about current pricing I explained. A bit more for your info, and how it affects them. They couldn’t give a sh.it! It’s BRUTAL, sheer brute force! As I pointed out, Putin needs a $100.00bbl; to pursue his dreams. Shale producers? “See how long you can last with that price, hit chapter 11, understood!” They are, and were, that brutal and ruthless. In the mid80’s the oil price was too high for their liking, Sheikh Jamani opened the taps – and they PUMPED! Brent (North Sea) collapsed from ~60.00bbl to less than $30.00bbl, took less than year. They_just_pumped! We didn’t know where to leave that stuff any more. The entire ARA (Amsterdam, Rotterdam and Antwerp) – no storage space left. Everybody stored where ever possible. Storage costs skyrocketed, which enabled us to store offshore. On VLCCs and ULCCs! Jargon, VLCC = Very Large Crude Carrier, and ULCC = Ultra Large Crude Carrier, that’s up to 2.5 million tonnes. Used as floating storage…. That’s what happens when they want to drive the price down. Think about this.
That IMF (and thus world bank) bit, with Breibart reporting? I am sure they now appreciate western comedy, they are probably laughing tears. Incidentally, when they decided to nearly switch completely to the Chinese “world bank” that’s when the declarations about their impending doom started. Poor Christine Lagarde/IMF, ‘was running so nicely. BTW, they just spend a lot on arms, plan to spend even more, finance the Pakistani nuclear program, and are fighting a war in Yemen. Have you noticed how it affects them? That’s right, not one bit.
So, once you read and want to talk, comments appreciated!, shall we talk on there? If so, please bookmark this page.
Thanks for your reply and the thoughtful points raised
Kind regards
DFD
gravenimage says
Thanks for your insight regarding the oil business, DFD.
DFD says
Graveimage, thanks for your reply, I responded on the page concerned.
Rgards
DFD
Mo says
That is terrifying! And I really always wanted to visit London someday. I don’t think I want to visit there any more.
Champ says
With you on that, Mo!
Budvarakbar says
I believe it was some Hungarian foreign minister , or journalist that visited London last fall and said they had been there 5 days before they met the first native Englishman
PH says
There goes the neighborhood
خَليفة says
At some point those surviving native Europeans who’s jizya taxes support all those welfare receiving refugees will be too few to adequately support them,. The tragedy of the situation is that the Muslims, like parasites, hasten the breaking point of the host. In the end, when Europe is no more, the majority of those remaining Muslims will starve or be killed by other Muslims. The ones who survive will be pulled back into a 7th century level of existence.
TheBuffster says
Yeah. I don’t think Europe has much oil to fall back on.
Angemon says
TheBuffster posted:
“Yeah. I don’t think Europe has much oil to fall back on.
Sounds like a great opportunity for American and Canadian companies to invest in oil extraction. Of course, not everyone in those nations sees it that way:
Wellington says
There is no equal in Western history that I am aware of whereby such deliberate potential suicidal measures have been taken for no good reason as has occurred in one Western nation after another respecting the matter of Muslim immigration, for instance in Britain. Exigent circumstances have compelled governments to engage in drastic measures at times, even to the extent of putting an entire country at risk, and occasional appeasement of barbaric forces has certainly occurred in Western history from ancient times onwards, but actually inviting Muslims in huge numbers into a Western country when no pressing reason has existed to do so (and some economic factors here and there don’t nearly add up to a pressing reason, only an excuse) is a unique, not rare but unique, form of slow national suicide which has been committed by not just Britain but by many Western countries.
It’s appalling. It’s stupid. It’s evil. And a curse for eternity on all those Western elites in the political realm, the media and academia who have sanctioned this madness. They are worse than the barbarian and by now ones knows or should know that the barbarian is the entire Islamic world which has often had a veneer of being a civilized world but which underneath has been barbaric from the outset, from Mohammed onwards.
My God, what an enormous tragedy and crime we are witnessing in our time. And it never had to happen.
medaber_emet says
its like the devil took over their minds
TheBuffster says
No, it was a slow corruption brought about by bad philosophical ideas over centuries. You can call that the devil if you want, but the ideas are traceable and the disintegration was predictable, and has been predicted by some savvy thinkers decades ago.
avi15 says
The Hour is Late
This has happened for one reason and one reason only: in Europe, western civilisation is dying. Having ditched transcendental devotions and wisdom for technological gadgetry, the highs of the entertainment industry and material comforts, it now has nowhere to go. Its institutions are weak and corrupted. Its politicians are feeble. Its intellectual elites are deluded. Few see the immediate problem for what it really is: Islam and its terrorist iterations. Later this century, many European countries will split along left-right fault lines; and this often in the face of terrorism, civil wars, famine, ecological disaster. Perhaps, the whole process can be attentuated, on a small scale, locally; but in general, we are witnessing the unstoppable march of history.
citycat says
The people are sitting ducks should Islam go off
Breeding, creeping, immigrating, is causing the infidels to sell houses that are then bought by Muslims.
There is lack of awareness within the infidels.
Infidels are divided by class, religion, T.V. Internet.
Where’s the community of people present?
Temporarily in the pub where communication is started and then restricted by alcohol.
Temporarily at work where communication is kept withing bounds.
Temporarily at the dealer’s where communication is more or less free and if Islam is discussed then the truth about Islam is not hindered.
Where’s the community?
The Muslims have community where the truth about Islam is not hindered.
The people are oppressed more or less all the time, in some way or other.
If the communication network, phones internet etc, were taken out for example, then the Muslims would still get word from A to B to Z
The concept of blame is fuzzying the reality, the practical down to Earth reality.
There is an element infesting civilization.
Hope says
And what will happen to the United States when its Western European allies are gone? I bet you can guess the answer to that.
Richard P, Sweden says
In order not to be forced to surrender to islam too like Europe, the U.S.A. must cooperate with Russia, taking control over Europe, dividing it in zones like Germany after WW2.
Will be a mutual interest for Russia and the U.S.A..
The only option when islam is too strong for Europe, I think.
Budvarakbar says
Will this be before or after the US has been divided into ‘zones’ — think about it — engage brain ASAP
gravenimage says
I’m sorry–even if this idea were not repugnant for other reasons, since no defender of freedom and democracy would council a violent takeover of one’s allies–the idea that hacking Europe up and giving large chunks of it to unfree Russia will serve as a bulwark against Jihad makes no sense.
Russia has its own problems with violent Jihad terror, and Putin has dealt with this by allowing Shari’ah in Chechnya and by making moves to violently annex their democratic neighbor. This is not a model for anyone to follow.
Richard P, Sweden says
Whether majority or minority muslims want islamic state and sharia (anti)-law. Europe has made a serious mistake. Leaders not up to the task have lead it to this terrible state.
They for some strange reason bow for islam like for nazism and communism before. Seems never able to form a good Europe free from tyranny. One tyrant is fought and disappears and the next coming up.
With so many muslim men in Europe they could form a vast army and fight IS/Daesh and islamic states and free their own countries from tyranny that cused them going to Europe. Instead of others dying fighting for them.
For how many years now have they got help without progress? Only worsening and increasing migration as result. Europe, the EU, the UN must demand change now.
Absurd that muslim men go fighting for IS/Daesh from Europe and thus european citizens shooting at one another.
Budvarakbar says
Sorry — too late for a Cartoon World – Disneyland – solution —
gerard says
3 million Muslims. 3 million Devil-Worshippers.
sidney penny says
Robert Spencer-you have lost your chance to go go to Britain
Well you can always teleconference,and everyone can watch you and or Pamela Geller on the big screen.
No visas required and the message gets through,even have questions and answers.
gerard/Gerard says
Even for a teleconference, the other side has to be interested…
gerard says
Teleconference with whom? The Media aren’t interested. (I assume you know that Robert and Pamela are banned from UK)
mortimer says
Who is planning this?
DFD says
mortimer says “Who is planning this?”
You really want to know? No, you don’t. I believe.
worldcitizen1919 says
I believe that there should be a more balanced distribution and more diversity so one race or religion is not dominant.
Countries with an aging population tend to encourage immigration but then there needs t be balance.
bernie says
Well, exactly. It makes sense to bring in immigrants whose culture and values are largely compatible with those of the host country. When Christian Pinoys or Latin Americans go to majority Christian, Western nations, then they usually assimlate easily, work hard, and don’t carry a supremacist attitude for the most part.
Wellington says
Look up the word “pablum,” worldcitizen, should you not know its meaning because you are quite good at dispensing it.
gravenimage says
“worldcitizen1919”:
I believe that there should be a more balanced distribution and more diversity so one race or religion is not dominant.
Countries with an aging population tend to encourage immigration but then there needs t be balance.
…………………………
In other words, we should keep on importing hordes of ravening Muslims and give them all our money…*Ugh*.
“worldcitizen1919” clearly has no understanding of *production*. Muslim polities create less because the vile creed of Islam despises innovation and productive labor.
But Muslims are always glad to take money from the “filthy Infidel”. In fact, Islam mandates that Muslims live off the Kuffar in the form of piracy, booty, tribute, slavery, Jizya, foreign aid, and welfare.
pumbar says
Possible rocket spotted by airbus pilot near Birmingham airport;
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-35462823
mortimer says
The complacent, tolerant, Fabianist British are planning on muddling through the Muslim invasion of England until the day when England becomes known as Pakistan North.
The British are taking far too much for granted and their leaders are all like smug old Neville Chamberlain with no eloquent and knowledgeable Churchill in the wings.
Leadership in Britain is now coming from the ignorant, rather than from the top. British aristocrats have to start reasserting themselves in the manner of Winston Churchill…through brilliance, the use of language and irresistible, fact-based knowledge of the problem
medaber_emet says
Islam is an ever hungry monster
the more you feed it the more appetite it develop to devour you
the muslims will take over UK and USA and Canada and Australia
it is simply because the people there are brain dead.
if in the past I had any delusions that the people there will wake up and recognize the great danger they are in and they will stop the islamization
Nowadays i realize that the free world is reluctant to wake up
all the western countries will be drifted into civil wars that in the first phase will decline into several territories divided between islam and other religions
the next phase will be an ever lasting war of islam against the infidels
degrading the infidels until the Islam will dominate the whole area
much like happened in Lebanon
davej says
We should have realized that all immigrants, refugees or invaders from Muslim countries carry this pernicious ideology that makes them fundamentally different from any previous immigrant group.
Did any nationalities or religious members among previous immigrants have any comparable organized strategy to impose their beliefs and laws upon their host?
And force previously free citizens to financially support and respect them as they takeover?
I would say no, nothing like this has ever happened here before – excepting of course when we colonized Native America. The Native Indians never stood a chance, now we are on the receiving end.
The combination of having no intention of assimilating, coupled with a scorn and hatred of their hosts is a dealbreaker for me. We have no responsibility to accept any immigrants who are openly hostile to us, its a stupid suicidal notion.
gravenimage says
You’d have to go back to the invading Danes and the invasions of 1066 in the early Middle Ages to find a parallel–and these invaders eventually assimilated with the British population–something Muslim invaders *will not* do.
davej says
P.S. Remember, the Native Americans welcomed and aided the Colonists, at first.
WorkingClassPost says
Sunday started early for me.
After a hectic week where I officially joined the counter-jihad movement, a rest was in order, and I also had things of high importance to do. [I say officially, because having commented here at JW, I too can expect to be monitored by the NSA, CIA, FBI, CI5 etc etc, just like everyone else who posts here.]
Taking my daughter the few miles to where they were about to set off on a long awaited and greatly anticipated school trip, I waved goodbye, and I suppose, because she happens to go to an all girls school, in that moment I was being shariah compliant.
But was I? Doesn’t shariah despise education for girls? To tell the truth, I don’t know, and don’t care to soil my spirit by learning about that abomination. A few chapters of the koran, and knowledge of who brought about that perversion of prophesy and what he did, is more than enough for my tender soul.
Anyway, time to go home and eat – bacon and beans – a Sunday treat, as most week days start with toast and tea. Regardless, not shariah for sure.
On to watch my son score his first goal for his local football (that’s soccer btw) team, just 10 minutes after being moved to the forward position, what joy! And now surely fully shariah compliant? But really? To stand and joke with other fathers including those of the opposition; without animosity, frivolous and fatuous, and fun for all the family. Does that sound like shariah to you?
Then home, and quickly to the pub to watch Chelsea put five past MK Dons (more soccer) and more fun, and definitely not shariah.
So I stayed on to celebrate a great day, where for a few blessed hours, I had completely forgotten about the people and ideology that wants to take away days just like that.
There was something else that I wanted to add here, but just can’t remember it, and gotta go to work now, so maybe that’s enough for the time being.
Good luck to you all, especially the prolific Mr. Spencer… and that was my point (I think), that after spending just one day away from my phone (except for calls) and computer, I am now struggling to read the backlog of news and comments here at JW, so persistent and relentless is the drive of islamic jihad around the world and into all our countries.
PS A note to all those guys, and girls, at the NSA, FBI et al. I know you’re just doing your job so here’s some brotherly advice:
Monitor this:- http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01A2LLCOE
Pumbar says
Welcome to the counterjihad workingclasspost.
There’s no going back.
WorkingClassPost says
That’s right, it would be like going back to a flat world sitting on the back of two camels, or whatever it is they thought it was. Cheers, only too glad to contribute.
gravenimage says
Welcome to the Counter Jihad, WorkingClassPost!
This is the most important fight of our age.
Your brave countrymen–including my mother and aunt, as young women in the British army–stood against Fascism. This fight against Jihad is every bit as crucial to our survival as free people.
Wiser Monkeys says
We have summarized some of the most significant opinion poll data from Muslims in the UK here:
http://wisermonkeys.uk/muslimopinion.html
When considering whether these views are “moderate” or “extreme”, it’s worthwhile bearing in mind the definition of ‘extremism’ taken from the fairly recently published UK government’s Counter-Extremism Strategy:
“Extremism is the vocal or active opposition to our fundamental values, including democracy, the rule of law, individual liberty and the mutual respect and tolerance of different faiths and beliefs. We also regard calls for the death of members of our armed forces as extremist.”
garry scott says
I live in Birmingham UK
You have no idea, some areas are 110% muslim
Some of the old “Brummies” fell like strangers in their own country
gravenimage says
My mother was born in Birmingham–back when it was unreservedly English.
Guest says
“Some parts of London are now almost 50 per cent Islamic”
So what? Every Islamic home in London is 100% Islamic.
rickmt says
If you are a Montana reader please pass this on to our liberal Governor, Missoula County Commissioners, the Missoula City Council, and the Mayor of Missoula. Encourage each and every one of them to visit, the UK, Europe mainland, and the Middle East before they bring muslim refugees to Montana. Thanks.
judd rusnak says
All of you (EU and England) are so stupid, the Muslim/Arab culture will never ever accept Christianity or Judaism. It seems that for the last 100 years, Europe have boycotted Jews and in the last 68 years acted in support of the Arab world in trying to annihilate the Jews/Israelis.(see Hanas Charter, PLO charter, etc.), you all supportint a replacement of Israel with sub-human Palestinian state (See BDS).
Your days (Eu and England) are numbered, the Muslim will enslave your women and Your daughters will be raped and sold in the market as ISIS promised to execute.
I guess, God works in mysteries way, meaning you all will pay for you have done to the Jewish people for 2000 years.
End of days is coming, as you and the Arabs will pay the ultimate price. (Gog and Magog)