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Obama at Baltimore mosque quoted Muhammad from speech endorsing caliphate and beheading

Feb 9, 2016 9:34 pm By Robert Spencer

Obama said: “Whoever wants to enter paradise, the Prophet Muhammad taught, ‘let him treat people the way he would love to be treated.'”

That saying comes from this hadith:

It has been narrated on the authority of ‘Abd al-Rahman b. Abd Rabb al-Ka’ba who said:

I entered the mosque when ‘Abdullah b. ‘Amr b. al-‘As was sitting in the shade of the Ka’ba and the people had gathered around him. I betook myself to them and sat near him. (Now) Abdullah said: I accompanied the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) on a journey. We halted at a place. Some of us began to set right their tents, others began to compete with one another in shooting, and others began to graze their beasts, when an announcer of the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) announced that the people should gather together for prayer, so we gathered around the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ). He said: It was the duty of every Prophet that has gone before me to guide his followers to what he knew was good for them and warn them against what he knew was bad for them; but this Umma of yours has its days of peace and (security) in the beginning of its career, and in the last phase of its existence it will be afflicted with trials and with things disagreeable to you. (In this phase of the Umma), there will be tremendous trials one after the other, each making the previous one dwindle into insignificance. When they would be afflicted with a trial, the believer would say: This is going to bring about my destruction. When at (the trial) is over, they would be afflicted with another trial, and the believer would say: This surely is going to be my end. Whoever wishes to be delivered from the fire and enter the garden should die with faith in Allah and the Last Day and should treat the people as he wishes to be treated by them. He who swears allegiance to a Caliph should give him the piedge [sic] of his hand and the sincerity of his heart (i. e. submit to him both outwardly as well as inwardly). He should obey him to the best of his capacity. It another man comes forward (as a claimant to Caliphate), disputing his authority, they (the Muslims) should behead the latter. The narrator says: I came close to him (‘Abdullah b. ‘Amr b. al-‘As) and said to him: Can you say on oath that you heard it from the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ)? He pointed with his hands to his ears and his heart and said: My ears heard it and my mind retained it. I said to him: This cousin of yours, Mu’awiya, orders us to unjustly consume our wealth among ourselves and to kill one another, while Allah says:” O ye who believe, do not consume your wealth among yourselves unjustly, unless it be trade based on mutual agreement, and do not kill yourselves. Verily, God is Merciful to you” (iv. 29). The narrator says that (hearing this) Abdullah b. ‘Amr b. al-As kept quiet for a while and then said: Obey him in so far as he is obedient to God; and diqobey [sic] him in matters involving disobedience to God. (Sahih Muslim book 20, no. 4546)

Immediately following the passage Obama quoted comes an exhortation to obey the caliph and to behead rival claimants. So embedded within the very same passage that Obama was using are endorsements of ideas that Obama would probably reject as having nothing to do with authentic Islam. It is extremely unlikely, of course, that Obama has seen this passage, but his (i.e., his speechwriters’) use of this quotation follows the same pattern as his use of Qur’an 5:32: he quotes selectively (although no Muslims are accusing him of “cherry-picking”!), ignoring inconveniently violent passages that are right next to the passage he quotes.

Is it not extremely telling that Barack Obama, in making the case that Islam teaches peace, can’t find even a few passages that are unequivocally peaceful, and instead has to grab his peaceful passages from amid exhortations to violence? Doesn’t that tell us something about Islam as a whole — something that Obama and the Western political and media establishment will never tell us?

Obama at Islamic Society of Baltimore, Allah

From Obama’s speech last Wednesday at the Islamic Society of Baltimore:

So let’s start with this fact: For more than a thousand years, people have been drawn to Islam’s message of peace. And the very word itself, Islam, comes from salam — peace. The standard greeting is as-salamu alaykum — peace be upon you. And like so many faiths, Islam is rooted in a commitment to compassion and mercy and justice and charity. Whoever wants to enter paradise, the Prophet Muhammad taught, “let him treat people the way he would love to be treated.” (Applause.) For Christians like myself, I’m assuming that sounds familiar. (Laughter.)

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  1. Lee says

    Feb 9, 2016 at 9:44 pm

    Islam does desire peace. The problem there is the means to peace, much like the Communist idea of peace, is the eradication of any opposition. If there is no opposition, well of course there is peace.
    What Islam wants is there to be none but musslemen left on earth.
    You’re either in the house of peace (Islam) or the house of war (anyone not in Islam). If you’re in the house of war, you are a target infidelity worthy only to be killed. That’s the Muslim view.

    • seasun says

      Feb 9, 2016 at 11:07 pm

      What about Somalia,Yemen,Iraq or Afghanistan?They’re all nearly 100% muslim and yet the least peaceful places on earth.

      • Cunamarra says

        Feb 10, 2016 at 3:00 am

        You forget the morality of Islam. You are either not Muslim or not Muslim enough. There is always a justification for bloodshed and brutality because that is the answer for every offense.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 10, 2016 at 5:02 pm

        Yes–the “peace” of Islam is always, shall we say, elusive–even in places where all other faiths have been long since eradicated. There are always other sect Muslims like Shia or Sunni. or just the presence of the “insufficiently Islamic”.

        In places like Afghanistan, Yemen, and Somalia, the “insufficiently Islamic” might even be other Jihadists.

    • nicu says

      Feb 10, 2016 at 12:22 pm

      Perfectly said !

      It’s no incident that Europe and specially Germany gets flooded with Muslims !

  2. Champ says

    Feb 9, 2016 at 9:55 pm

    obama plays the role of The Antichrist very well, too …

    • somehistory says

      Feb 10, 2016 at 8:24 am

      Champ,
      If he really put faith in Christ, which is what Christians do, he would not mock Christ and he wouldn’t quote the unholy book with *reverence* as he does, he wouldn’t call it *holy* as he does and he wouldn’t be visiting the barracks of the people who are all for killing Christians and Jews. He was mocking Christ when he said what he did and the way he said it was to get a laugh…which he did. He makes me ill and angry

      The Bible clearly says that the “anti-Christ” denies Christ. By doing all of what he does, o denies Christ and encourages the “celebration* and *elevation* of those who have made themselves enemies of Jesus Christ. o thanked them for being moslim…adhering to the unholy, disgusting evil.

      Christians are warned by Christ Himself not to fall prey to the “many false Christs and false prophets” that would come forth in these “last days.” (Matthew 24)

      We must keep pointing to the Truth. Thanks for hanging in there. Hope your grand baby is doing well.

      • Champ says

        Feb 10, 2016 at 11:49 pm

        Somehistory,

        I agree that obama is NOT a Christian; and the reasons you gave are spot on.

        Thank you, and I also hope that you and yours are doing well, my friend. 🙂

  3. davej says

    Feb 9, 2016 at 10:09 pm

    Compassion, mercy and justice?

    Either he is deaf and blind or this is a plot to mislead Americans about Islam.

    And he is not deaf and blind so that leaves dishonesty and treason.

  4. Mo says

    Feb 9, 2016 at 10:16 pm

    This lying, traitorous man has the GALL to stand in a mosque, read Islamic texts, and then go on to claim he is a follower of Christ?!

    How he enrages me!

    • John Stefan Obeda says

      Feb 10, 2016 at 2:18 pm

      What does God teach us through His faithful apostle Paul in the following words? “Do not be yoked together with unbelievers. For what do righteousness and wickedness have in common? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness? What harmony is there between Christ and Belial (or Beliar)? What does a believer have in common with an unbeliever? What agreement is there between the temple of God and idols? For we are the temple of the living God.” (2 Cor. 6:14-16b (NIV). These words from God to Christians teach us that by what we do and do not do must not give the impression to anyone that one religion is as good as another. In this matter Obama sins (and, since I’m on the subject, so does the Pope and many others these days). Note: The Jews used Beliar as a title for Satan. That fits well here. Allah and Muhammad are of Beliar, satan. A faithful Christian would not worship with those of Beliar, satan.

  5. billybob says

    Feb 9, 2016 at 10:25 pm

    This is quite an astonishing revelation. This should be in mainstream newspapers – that very exerpt Robert supplied giving context to Obama’s words.

    • PRCS says

      Feb 11, 2016 at 2:17 am

      should be in mainstream newspapers

      But isn’t, and likely never will be.

      Note, too, that every knowledgeable Muslim in that crowd likely knows what that hadith says and that BHO was cherry picking from it–but none called him on it, of course, as they were not about to let the filthy kuffar in on the dirty little secret.

  6. Avi says

    Feb 9, 2016 at 10:25 pm

    He’s just an idiot who lives in his own fantasy world. That he has managed to get elected president is a sad reflection on the American political system.

  7. janeatte says

    Feb 9, 2016 at 10:32 pm

    , the Prophet Muhammad taught, ‘let him treat people the way he would love to be treated.’”
    This quote Mohammad stole it from the bible.
    Mr. Obama forget that Mohammad he was a thief ,all the Quran is stolen from the bible and he fabricated and adjusted for his personal need. Mr. Obama should know how his prophet attacked the carnivals and stole their merchandiser and kill them and now he is proud of this liar and thief.it is a shame.

    • mortimer says

      Feb 9, 2016 at 11:27 pm

      janeatte wrote: “Mohammad stole it from the bible”

      But the passage isn’t the Golden Rule at all…this passage refers to Muslims only, not the Universal Law of Reciprocity. It’s merely a call for Muslims to end their civil war against Muawiya and uses Mohammed as an authority greater than Muawiya the caliph.

      There is no Golden Rule in Islam because a dirty Kafir is never the equal of a Muslim…all Muslims know that.

      Obama is showing himself as a bonehead to all Muslims. They are laughing at him! He hasn’t done the readings on Islamic foundational source texts. Obama hasn’t a clue what they mean. Obama is clueless about Islamic supremacism. There is NO EQUALITY in Islam and the Golden Rule depends on equality.

      • apichorus says

        Feb 10, 2016 at 3:20 am

        well, that makes me feel lots better, that ovomit doesn’t understand his muslim faith,
        next,
        maybe one of the many maurading beasts that he has identified with, called his sons, (or more or less), maybe one just one will fantasize patricide, hey its all over the literature,
        Let’s see one of the crowd , imitating the others, go for the jugular???
        would one of his sons do that? what does allah say about patricide,
        what are the qualities necessary to exculpate that?????

      • Jay Boo says

        Feb 10, 2016 at 11:37 am

        “all Muslims know that” ????
        Get with the program Morty

        Dirty Muslims — Mortimer
        Dirty Muslims low-life Muslims NOT ……

        “There is no Golden Rule in Islam because a dirty Kafir is never the equal of a Muslim…all Muslims know that. “

      • PRCS says

        Feb 11, 2016 at 3:51 am

        There is no Golden Rule in Islam because a dirty Kafir is never the equal of a Muslim

        all Muslims know that

        Whether that second part is true or not, just once I’d like to see a “journalist” ask Western reverts if they know that.

        They’ve had plenty of opportunities, but…

  8. Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

    Feb 9, 2016 at 10:43 pm

    Like the Kremlinologists of old, Koranologists will apply this presidentially-quoted passage to current events. Its “first Caliph wins” principle means that since Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi of ISIS has proclaimed himself Caliph, if Turkish President Erdogan tries to also proclaim himself as a neo-Ottoman Caliph, Muslims should rise up and behead Erdogan:
    “I[f] another man [Erdogan] comes forward (as a claimant to Caliphate), disputing his [al-Baghdadi’s] authority, they (the Muslims) should behead the latter [Erdogan].”

  9. Wellington says

    Feb 9, 2016 at 10:49 pm

    If Obama didn’t know the entirety of this hadith yet quoted what he did from it, then shame on him.

    And if Obama did know the entirety of this hadith yet quoted what he did from it, then shame on him.

    • mortimer says

      Feb 9, 2016 at 11:31 pm

      He’s shown he considers himself an expert on Islam…he is lecturing Muslims about the ‘real’ meaning of Islam, and yet, he has not read or studied the source texts himself.

      How does that make Obama an expert on Islam? It doesn’t.

      Obama uses the prestige of his office to give BS credibility. It’s the fallacy from authority: ‘Believe this, because I have an impressive title.’

      • Screeminmeeme says

        Feb 10, 2016 at 8:22 am

        How do you know that he hasn’t read or studied the source texts himself? Why would you assume that? And in light of the Islamic teaching about deceiving the infidel, why would you think that he wouldn’t lie to the American people by picking and choosing the so-called ”peaceful” parts of Quranuc/hadith and not include the violent ones?

        After 7+ years of following Obama’s pro-Islamic actions and rhetoric, anyone can see where his loyalties lie. And yes, he’s clearly using his authoritative position as POTUS to ”teach” Americans about Islam, and it’s nothing but lies, propaganda and disinformation to lull us into accepting the Islamization of our country.

        He’s hoping that we will acquiesce to Islamic demands to change our culture.
        I for one will not.

    • Jay Boo says

      Feb 10, 2016 at 8:04 am

      Obama and others like him certainly know enough about Islam for their deliberate actions to be treasonous.

      Yet, still such opportunists sycophants like him persist in their willfully wistful search of their twisted imaginations in order to grasp at twigs of fabricated evidence to build their multicultural xanadu nest on top of the broken bones and shattered lives of Islam’s victims while insisting that truth is theirs to hide.

  10. Mark Swan says

    Feb 9, 2016 at 10:52 pm

    I am not sure who this poor Man is trying convince…and what hope He may have for it…but why!

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 10, 2016 at 5:07 pm

      He certainly is not trying to convince the pious Muslims at the Baltimore Mosque that Islam practices the Golden Rule–more likely just the ‘filthy Kuffar’ consuming media reports.

  11. somehistory says

    Feb 9, 2016 at 11:00 pm

    Vomit. Not worth the time it takes to read. Not worth the paper it was written upon. Not worthy of anything. Vomit.

  12. Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says

    Feb 9, 2016 at 11:06 pm

    For sake of completeness, the hadith citation (shown in classical Arabic too) is seen at
    http://sunnah.com/muslim/33/74
    That parenthesized glyph following “Messenger of Allah” means “(peace be upon him)”.

    • ECAW says

      Feb 10, 2016 at 3:07 am

      Thanks. I was wondering what the reference was.

      Mu’awiya was the one who fought Ali for the caliphate, starting the Sunni/Shia split (may their house ever be divided). This hadith sounds like Shia propaganda doesn’t it, though it’s a bit confusing since (I believe) Muslim was a Sunni. Anyone know the details?

  13. mortimer says

    Feb 9, 2016 at 11:17 pm

    Robert Spencer wrote: “Obama, in making the case that Islam teaches peace, can’t find even a few passages that are unequivocally peaceful, and instead has to grab his peaceful passages from amid exhortations to violence?”

    Obama hasn’t read these passage himself nor has he studied them nor did he write the speech. The passages at best were cherry picked by someone with little Islamic knowledge or cynically by someone who knows exactly what they mean…as Spencer points out: the passage is about loyalty to the caliph and civil war between Muslims at the time of Caliph Muawiya. Muslims should be kind to other Muslims and not fight them. Many scholars feel that Islam didn’t not exist at the time of Muawiya. I’m surely ISIS uses this text in the opposite sense to what Obama means…ISIS wants other Sunnite Muslims to stop fighting them!

    • Champ says

      Feb 10, 2016 at 1:31 am

      Obama hasn’t read these passage himself nor has he studied them nor did he write the speech.

      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

      Oh please. How could you *possibly* know that? You don’t. So stop claiming that you do.

      • Carolyne says

        Feb 10, 2016 at 10:04 am

        I agree Champ. It certainly appears with a high amount of certainty, that Obama has indeed read the passages he quotes and edits them to suit his purpose, which convincing us that “Islam is a religion of peace.”

      • Jay Boo says

        Feb 10, 2016 at 11:39 am

        ditto

  14. Dan says

    Feb 9, 2016 at 11:30 pm

    Well if he ain’t the Antichrist, he’s one hell of a Judas.

    • mortimer says

      Feb 9, 2016 at 11:40 pm

      Stop it and calm down. Obama is certainly not ‘satan’. Obama is quite naïve and uninformed about Islam and hasn’t taken the time to learn Islam’s dualistic doctrines…such as ‘Al Walaa wal Baraa’ (Islamic apartheid).

      ‘Al Walaa wal Baraa’ ENTIRELY RULE OUT Obama’s interpretation of this passage. There is no equality in Islam between a dirty Kafir and a Muslim. But Obama has not heard about Al Walaa wal Baraa. One of his staff should tell him about it.

      The passage above does not mention kafirs at all. Kafirs have no rights, but privileges only, under Sharia. Kafirs are barely tolerable in an Islamic state.

      • Champ says

        Feb 10, 2016 at 1:21 am

        mortimer wrote:

        “Obama is quite naïve and uninformed about Islam” …

        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

        I think that *you’re* NAIVE about obama, and he knows EXACTLY what he’s doing!

        • Angemon says

          Feb 10, 2016 at 3:34 pm

          Champ posted:

          “I think that *you’re* NAIVE about obama, and he knows EXACTLY what he’s doing!”

          I concur, Champ. He might not know the minutiae, but I believe he gets the general idea about the “religion of peace”.

      • Jay Boo says

        Feb 10, 2016 at 8:39 am

        Mortimer for someone who appears over-eager to jump on others for acting like jacklboot Nazi thugs when attacking all Muslims as being subhuman, you in contrast often show a disturbing flair for BEGRUDGING ADMIRATION of Islamic doctrine the way you repeatedly toss out and leave hanging phrases like:

        “There is no equality in Islam between a dirty Kafir and a Muslim.”

      • Carolyne says

        Feb 10, 2016 at 9:36 am

        I agree with Champ. Obama is not naïve. He is a Muslim and he is doing exactly what his religion calls him to do. In his instance, I believe his duty as a follower of Mohammed is to destroy the US and install Islam, thereby making it a part of the wish of Muslims since the beginning, a world wide Grand Caliphate. And because there are people who fail to realize or admit the truth, he is successful.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 10, 2016 at 4:41 pm

        Mortimer wrote:

        Obama is quite naïve and uninformed about Islam and hasn’t taken the time to learn Islam’s dualistic doctrines…

        But Obama has not heard about Al Walaa wal Baraa. One of his staff should tell him about it.
        …………………………..

        Mortimer, Obama had a Muslim father and step-father, spent a significant part of this youth in a Muslim country, and attended Mosque and Qur’an class.

        Chances are he knows a lot more about Islam than does most of his staff–likely including tenets like the one you cite.

        He also knows how to whitewash Islam–which is exactly what he is doing here.

      • Dennis Smith says

        Feb 10, 2016 at 4:57 pm

        All one has to do is watch some of the videos of him dressed in Muslim garb speaking in their dialect better than his English might I add to know he is a Muslim.

    • Bonnie says

      Feb 10, 2016 at 11:29 am

      He is an antichrist but not THE Antichrist. See 1st John 2:18-23. Anti means against;in opposition; in opposition and against the truth of Jesus’ teachings. Therefore, it would seem correct to assume that Mohammed is the Antichrist that people are waiting for,but who has already arrived; we are now seeing the full fruitage of his dealings.

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 10, 2016 at 4:53 pm

        Dr. Divinity wrote:

        if anyone can….. please show me where obummer has ever said he was not a Muslim..
        …………………………..

        In 2008 Obama said:

        “I have never been a Muslim…” and “I have never been a Muslim.”

        This is belied by his having been enrolled in school in Indonesia as a Muslim, and attending Qur’an class there.

        And Obama has said a lot of other things, as well.

        Here’s Daniel Pipes from 2012 on the contradictory things Obama has said about being Muslim, Christian, and atheist over the years:

        http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/sep/7/obama-i-have-never-been-a-muslim/?page=all

    • nicu says

      Feb 10, 2016 at 12:20 pm

      A friend called him a charming devil !

      When do people realize he is a Muslim ???

  15. Stephen says

    Feb 9, 2016 at 11:45 pm

    Obama said: Whoever wants to enter paradise, the Prophet Muhammad taught, “let him treat people the way he would love to be treated.” (Applause.) For Christians like myself, I’m assuming that sounds familiar. (Laughter.)

    He is Biggest Liar of muslim brotherhood.

    Did he ever say that he is Not a muslim ??

    No. …

  16. Dan Jones says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 12:25 am

    oh, and if the tide ever turns against Islam then I obama will save it….

    More End Time News At:
    http://www.shininginthedark.com/?page_id=4526

  17. Rob says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 1:07 am

    Roll on November.
    The guy is a fantasist.
    In his youth he was exposed to a little Eastern Promise and has had a permanent hard on about Islam ever since.
    Read Bernard Lewis’s ‘What went Wrong’ to understand Islam.
    There’s a summary in The Atlantic from a few years ago.
    Here:
    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2002/01/what-went-wrong/302387/

  18. Janeatte says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 1:14 am

    Mortimer you are right he stole it from the bible but he applyed it for Muslims only. I was listening to idiot Nancy Pelosi , she said that Jesus and Mohammad both talk about love each other,she doesn’t know that Mohammad stress to love Muslims only and kills the non Muslims

  19. dajjal says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 1:20 am

    My takedown of the quoted paragraph is here:
    http://crusadersarmory.blogspot.com/2016/02/obamination-mosque-vist-freedom-of_5.html

    Scroll down until you see the image of Obamination 😉

  20. Cameron says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 1:24 am

    The “peace” of having been mass-murdered, enslaved, pillaged and however otherwise defeated militarily and subjugated to the forces of Islam and then having to live under barbaric Islamic laws and being forced to pay the extortionate and punitive jizya, is a “peace” imposed by an intolerant enemy, that is not worth having.

    I would rather live inder strict state Communism or Fascism or a kleptocracy than under an Islamist regime.

  21. TH says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 1:31 am

    Thank God for Robert Spencer when it comes to discovering the fallacies and deceit of the likes of Obama.

    • Champ says

      Feb 10, 2016 at 1:38 am

      I agree!

  22. Alec Rawls says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 1:32 am

    There is a crucial difference between the golden-rulish quote as Obama translates it and the translation in the full passage that Robert cites. Here is Obama’s version of the supposed words of Muhammad: “Whoever wants to enter paradise, the Prophet Muhammad taught, ‘let him treat people the way he would love to be treated.’”

    Here is Robert’s cited version of the same Hadith: “Whoever wishes to be delivered from the fire and enter the garden should die with faith in Allah and the Last Day and should treat the people as he wishes to be treated by them.”

    Obama’s version says “treat people,” where Robert’s version says “treat THE people” (emphasis added).

    “The people” would seem to be a reference to other Muslims, to the Umma, as was the subject of the supposed remarks: the trials of the Umma. Here Muslims are to be merciful to each other, which obviously does not preclude their being “hard against the unbelievers.”

    Verse 48.29 of the Koran instructs both. I call verse 48.29 the Islamic law of hate. The Christian law of love tells people to love ALL neighbors as themselves. This is the usual interpretation of the parable of the Good Samaritan, though not the only possible interpretation (it can also be seen as calling for discernment as to who is acting like a neighbor, using the Samaritan as an example). In contrast, Verse 48.29 calls on Muslims to love their Muslim neighbors while hating everyone else.

    This Hadith that Robert and Obama cite would seem to be the same in this way as 48.29. Can Robert please clarify whether this is the correct interpretation of the Arabic grammar? Is the full quote properly read as using “the people” to refer specifically to other Muslims? How clear is it that this is NOT a call to be loving towards all neighbor’s, regardless of whether they are Muslim or non-Muslim (as Obama clearly meant to pretend)?

    • dajjal says

      Feb 10, 2016 at 2:18 am

      Robert’s hadith is second in the serps:
      http://sunnah.com/search/?q=%22treat+people+as%22

      I was not able to find an exact match for Obamination’s quote.

      Note however, the first result which treats according to social status. The third seems to duplicate the second.

      48.29 effectively puts the lie to the quote.

      I do not recall where I read it, but it was written that Jihad is a mercy to kuffar ‘cuz it might lead them to embrace Islam, saving them from the fire. What Muslim would not like to avoid the fire?

  23. Westman says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 2:14 am

    It’s just a similie of the old quran 5:32 head fake, ignoring what comes after.

    The “people” in this Hadith are THE PEOPLE of ISLAM, ONLY. This was tribal society, POTUS is forgetting the slaves, the subdued jizya payers, and the murdered. This mendacity has reached elephantine proportions. And like dunces, we voted for him.

    But I am confused about why a previous Muslim, an Apostate, is quoting a Hadith. Leaving a religion means you no longer believe it to be the correct religion. According to the four schools and the clerics of Al-Azhar, that is a fatal choice with Islam and the ultimate insult by a Muslim. Quoting questionable Islamic ideology, in its support, as an Apostate, seems rather inconsistent.

    Does anyone actually know if President Obama actually recited the Shahada to be Muslim?

    Does anyone know of a Muslim-to-Christian convert in Israel who is quoting the Quran or Hadiths to sell the fake “golden rule” of Islam?

    • dajjal says

      Feb 10, 2016 at 2:28 am

      Ifd ywe father is a ‘slime, yer a ‘slime. In Reliance, read Book A, it tells you what you must teach yer brat. In Hedaya, see: pg 64 of the text.
      //ia700300.us.archive.org/30/items/hedayaorguide029357mbp/hedayaorguide029357mbp.pdf#page=123

      Obamination’s father was a ‘slime. That makes Obamination a ‘slime. If he really converfted to Christianity, he would, like Shoebat, the Caner Brs. & Mark Christian, condemn and expose Islam.

  24. Jeremiah says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 2:25 am

    Let us not be naive any more. Obama knows the Koran as well as anybody. He has been taking us for fools for ten years or more.

  25. Salome says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 5:45 am

    Oh what a difference the definite article makes, even before you fill in the context.

  26. Wakeup says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 6:58 am

    Never mind America will soon be under new management and hopefully will never repeat this mistake. Vote for Trump he is the only one who has stuck his neck out all the rest are appeasers, Cruz only plays follow my leader.

    • duh_swami says

      Feb 10, 2016 at 8:39 am

      You forgot about Carson…Trump says he has Muslim friends and they are great people…Where does that leave us?

    • quotha raven says

      Feb 10, 2016 at 11:11 am

      To Wakeup – who says, “Vote for Trump he is the only one who has stuck his neck out all the rest are appeasers, Cruz only plays follow my leader”

      Given Trump’s ego and bombastic bluster, it worries me that he might “lead” like Obama on steroids. One does not hear Trump revering the Constitution. Ever.

      Trump talks a lot, however, about making “deals”….Is that where we really want to go?

      While completely entertained and inspired by Trump, I am a little leery, even though I would certainly vote for him over Hillary or Bernie or Biden or (shudder) Bloomberg.But I prefer Cruz, whom I trust more because he has a more consistent history..

      Just sayin’…

      Cheers!

      quotha raven

      • Angemon says

        Feb 10, 2016 at 2:12 pm

        quotha raven posted:

        “Trump talks a lot, however, about making “deals”….Is that where we really want to go?”

        On his defense (for the record, Trump isn’t on my top 3 candidates), he did wrote “The Art of the Deal“. In there it reads “My style of deal-making is quite simple and straightforward. I aim very high, and then I just keep pushing and pushing to get what I’m after. Sometimes I settle for less than I sought, but in most cases I still end up with what I want”. In the context of the Iranian deal, it would seem that the Iranians read that while Obama smoked pot and Bibi smoked terrorists.

        (and you’re absolutely right regarding Trump and the Constitution.)

  27. duh_swami says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 8:50 am

    I don’t believe for one second that a chain of transmitters remembered every word of a long winded hadith perfectly…All hadith are man made and none of them are actually credible…

    I wonder if the assembled Mahoundians actually believe Rasool O is a Christian? If they do, what do they really think of him explaining their religion to them??

  28. Richard P, Sweden says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 8:50 am

    As the saying goes: If Muhammed and Jesus met , Jesus would turn the other cheek while Muhammed would cut Jesu´s head.
    Bettter Maria than sharia.

    • Kepha says

      Feb 10, 2016 at 5:54 pm

      No, at this point, Jesus would consume Muhammad with a breath (II Thes. 2:8). In the meantime, between the first coming of Christ, when he offered his life for ours on the cross and rose on the third day, and that second coming in which he will judge the living and the dead, I urge all to avail themselves of God’s grace in Christ’s lest you, too, be consumed.

  29. Panmelia says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 8:56 am

    Exactly so, MP. The hadith says “should treat the PEOPLE as he wishes to be treated by them”.

    WHAT people? Other muslims of course, no one else. Those of other faiths or none are certainly NOT included in this doctrine.

    The muslims spent hundreds of years going through settled nations of Jews, Christians, Hindus, Buddhist and pagans like a dose of salts, treating them like dirt, to be conquered, slaughtered, raped, tortured, enslaved. Those who surrendered were given the choice of convert to islam, become dhimmis and pay burdensome taxes for being allowed to live, or die by the sword on their necks. (Beheading was favourite then, as it still is today. You can see how far muslims have progressed.)

    The Crusades were an attempt to roll back this onslaught on peaceful Christian countries, and many other battles were fought to prevent the barbarians from conquering Europe. Think of El Cid in Spain and other brave men who gave their lives in the battle of Poitiers in France and at the Gates of Vienna.
    It is because of those long ago battles that we in Europe are not muslims today.

    Islam weakened in the early 17th century while the West forged ahead. Now islamics think they are going to establish a world-wide caliphate. Over our dead bodies.

    Obama is either a damned fool who doesn’t know what he’s talking about, or he’s a damned crypto-islamic traitor to the USA and the entire the Western world. Either way he SHOULD STFU and I can’t wait to see him disappear into well-deserved obscurity as the worst US president ever. Yes, worse than Nixon. As an antidote to Obama, we need Trump.

    Am I a so-called ‘islamophobe’? You betcha, and with every good reason to be so.

    • Carolyne says

      Feb 10, 2016 at 9:49 am

      There is no choice in deciding what Obama is; He is an Islamic traitor to the USA and the entire Western world. Being called an Islamophobe” is a badge of honor, IMO.

      • Godwin says

        Feb 10, 2016 at 12:31 pm

        USA must got very bad karma to have elected this stealth jahadis twice as president.

  30. Max Richard says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 9:21 am

    Believers believe everything, every nonsense!

  31. Lynn says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 10:29 am

    Obama is being controlled by Satan.

  32. simon says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 12:12 pm

    Obama is a closet Sunni.

  33. Trzęsowski says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 2:05 pm

    Obama is wrong not only in linguistics – “Islam” means submission and has nothing to do with word “peace” (salem)

  34. matthew24 says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 2:29 pm

    Did anybody notice the signature of satan above the head of Obama !? Anyone remember Genesis ? It is the word Allah in Arabic on the left you see the snake on the right the tree with the forbidden fruit.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah

  35. underbed cat says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 3:08 pm

    Thought laws, Lincoln would never approve, politics of fear, I fear precisely what is happening now, don’t worry meanness is just some truths that are not on the agenda.

    Trump may be harsh…..but he knows something is amiss as the ideology is forbidden, but active sadly.

  36. gravenimage says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 3:55 pm

    Whoever wants to enter paradise, the Prophet Muhammad taught, “let him treat people the way he would love to be treated.” (Applause.) For Christians like myself, I’m assuming that sounds familiar. (Laughter.)
    ………………………………

    In other words, Obama is pretending that this is the Christian Golden Rule: “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you”.

    Funny, I don’t recall the Golden Rule demanding that Christians behead rival claimants to the Caliphate…

    In fact, the passages surrounding the Golden Rule in the Book of Luke in the New Testament of the Bible are these:

    27 But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,

    28 Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.

    29 And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.

    30 Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.

    31 And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.

    32 For if ye love them which love you, what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them.

    33 And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.

    34 And if ye lend to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.

    35 But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.

    36 Be ye therefore merciful, as your Father also is merciful.

    37 Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven…

    Nope–not a word about murdering your rivals…

  37. BlueRaven says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 4:11 pm

    Imam Obama

  38. Sam says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 4:51 pm

    I am going to defend Obama now JW readers. Obama could not be a traitor like he is now to American people if we had a majority of Americans who love freedom and American way of life. Obama is doing these unthinkable acts of treason because the majority of Americans hate America. This is a fact.

    An American president giving a speech in a mosque (house of the enemy) encouraging this disgusting cult is in my opinion an act of ignorance, hate of America, stupidity and treason. America chose this idiot twice. I am not sure we will recover from the damage this scum imposed on America and the world.

  39. Richado says

    Feb 10, 2016 at 9:13 pm

    ” For Christians like myself, I’m assuming that sounds familiar. (Laughter.)” Really? ACT I SCENE III from the Merchant of Venice by Shakespeare comes to mind:

    ANTONIO

    Mark you this, Bassanio,
    The devil can cite Scripture for his purpose.
    An evil soul producing holy witness
    Is like a villain with a smiling cheek,
    A goodly apple rotten at the heart:
    O, what a goodly outside falsehood hath!

  40. Chantelle says

    Feb 11, 2016 at 4:59 am

    Of course Obama has to be a ” Christian” who would have voted for him if he told the truth

  41. michael says

    Feb 11, 2016 at 6:13 pm

    Differences Between Muhammad and JESUS…
    MUHAMMAD
    Said Allah hates those who don’t accept Islam.
    (Qur’an 30:45, 3:32, 22:38)
    JESUS
    Said God loves everyone.
    (John 3:16)
    MUHAMMAD
    “I have been commanded to fight
    against people till they testify that there
    is no god but Allah, and that Muhammad
    is the messenger of Allah”
    (Muslim 1:33)
    JESUS
    “He who lives by the sword
    will die by the sword.”
    (Matthew 26:52)
    MUHAMMAD
    Stoned women for adultery.
    (Muslim 4206)
    JESUS
    “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.”
    (John 8:7)
    MUHAMMAD
    Permitted stealing from unbelievers.
    (Bukhari 44:668, Ibn Ishaq 764)
    JESUS
    “Thou shalt not steal.”
    (Matthew 19:18)
    MUHAMMAD
    Permitted lying.
    (Sahih Muslim 6303, Bukhari 49:857)
    JESUS
    “Thou shalt not bear false witness.”
    (Matthew 19:18)
    MUHAMMAD
    Owned and traded slaves.
    (Sahih Muslim 3901)
    JESUS
    Neither owned nor traded slaves.
    MUHAMMAD
    Beheaded 800 Jewish men and boys.
    (Sahih Muslim 4390)
    JESUS
    Beheaded no one.
    MUHAMMAD
    Murdered those who insulted him.
    (Bukhari 56:369, 4:241)
    JESUS
    Preached forgiveness.
    (Matthew 18:21-22, 5:38)
    MUHAMMAD
    “If then anyone transgresses
    the prohibition against you,
    Transgress ye likewise against him”
    (Qur’an 2:194)
    JESUS
    “If someone strikes you on the right
    cheek, turn to him the other also.”
    (Matthew 5:39)
    MUHAMMAD
    Jihad in the way of Allah elevates one’s position in Paradise by a hundred fold.
    (Muslim 4645)
    JESUS
    “Blessed are the peacemakers, for
    they will be called Sons of God”
    (Matthew 5:9)
    MUHAMMAD
    Married 13 wives and kept sex slaves.
    (Bukhari 5:268, Qur’an 33:50)
    JESUS
    Was celibate.
    MUHAMMAD
    Slept with a 9-year-old child.
    (Sahih Muslim 3309, Bukhari 58:236)
    JESUS
    Did not have sex with anyone.
    MUHAMMAD
    Ordered the murder of women.
    (Ibn Ishaq 819, 995)
    JESUS
    Never harmed a woman.
    MUHAMMAD
    “O you who believe! Fight those of the
    unbelievers who are near to you
    and let them find in you hardness.”
    (Qur’an 9:123)
    JESUS
    “Blessed are the meek, for
    they shall inherit the earth.”
    (Matthew 5:5)
    MUHAMMAD
    Ordered 65 military campaigns
    and raids in his last 10 years.
    (Ibn Ishaq )
    JESUS
    Ordered no military campaigns, nor
    offered any approval of war or violence.
    MUHAMMAD
    Killed captives taken in battle.
    (Ibn Ishaq 451)
    JESUS
    Never took captives.
    Never killed anyone.
    MUHAMMAD
    Encouraged his men to rape enslaved women.
    (Abu Dawood 2150, Qur’an 4:24)
    JESUS
    Never encouraged rape.
    Never enslaved women.
    MUHAMMAD
    Demanded captured slaves and
    a fifth of all other loot taken in war.
    (Qur’an 8:41)
    JESUS
    “The Son of Man came not
    to be served, but to serve.”
    (Matthew 20:28)
    MUHAMMAD
    Was never tortured, but tortured others.
    (Muslim 4131, Ibn Ishaq 436, 595, 734, 764)
    JESUS
    Suffered torture, but never tortured anyone.
    MUHAMMAD
    “And fight them until there is no more persecution and religion is only for Allah”
    (Qur’an 8:39)
    JESUS
    “Love your enemies and pray
    for those who persecute you”
    (Matthew 5:44)
    MUHAMMAD
    Blessed the brutal murder of a half-blind man
    (al-Tabari 1440)
    JESUS
    Healed a blind man
    (Mark 8:28)
    MUHAMMAD
    Ordered a slave to build the very pulpit
    from which he preached Islam.
    (Bukhari 47:743)
    JESUS
    Washed his disciples feet.
    (John 13:5)
    MUHAMMAD
    What are the Greatest Commandments?
    “Belief in Allah and Jihad in His cause”
    (Muslim 1:149)
    JESUS
    What are the Greatest Commandments?
    “Love God and love thy neighbor as thyself.”
    (Matthew 22:34-40)
    MUHAMMAD
    Demanded the protection of armed bodyguards, even in a house of worship
    (Qur’an 4:102)
    JESUS
    Chastised anyone attempting
    to defend him with force.
    (John 18:10-12)
    MUHAMMAD
    Died fat and wealthy from what was
    taken from others in war or
    demanded from others in tribute.
    JESUS
    Demanded nothing for himself.
    Died without possessions.
    MUHAMMAD
    Advocated crucifying others.
    (Qur’an 5:33, Muslim 16:4131)
    JESUS
    Was crucified himself.
    MUHAMMAD
    According to his followers:
    Had others give their lives for him.
    (Sahih Muslim 4413)
    JESUS
    According to his followers:
    Gave his life for others.
    (John 18:11 and elsewhere)
    There are MANY more… yet to come.
    JESUS IS LORD.

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