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Obama: “We can’t suggest that Islam itself is at the root of the problem. That betrays our values.”

Feb 5, 2016 12:19 pm By Robert Spencer

How does it betray our values? He didn’t say. When did denial and willful ignorance become core American values? He didn’t say that, either. His chief support for his claim that the Islamic State is not Muslim and doesn’t represent Islam in any way was this: “The vast majority of the people they kill are innocent Muslim men, women and children.” His unspoken assumption here is that Muslims would never kill fellow Muslims, and indeed, the Qur’an forbids that (4:92). But Islam mandates the killing of those considered apostates. A hadith depicts Muhammad saying: “Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him” (Bukhari 9.84.57). The death penalty for apostasy is part of Islamic law according to all the schools of Islamic jurisprudence. Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the most renowned and prominent Muslim cleric in the world, has stated: “The Muslim jurists are unanimous that apostates must be punished, yet they differ as to determining the kind of punishment to be inflicted upon them. The majority of them, including the four main schools of jurisprudence (Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi’i, and Hanbali) as well as the other four schools of jurisprudence (the four Shiite schools of Az-Zaidiyyah, Al-Ithna-‘ashriyyah, Al-Ja’fariyyah, and Az-Zaheriyyah) agree that apostates must be executed.”

The Islamic State considers itself to be the new caliphate, commanding the allegiance of all Muslims worldwide. Those who reject its authority it considers to be apostates, and thus lawfully to be killed. One may disagree with this and think it abominable, but it destroys Obama’s argument that the Islamic State is un-Islamic because it kills Muslims. It kills them because it thinks they have strayed from Islam.

The Islamic State is careful to pattern everything it does after the directives of the Qur’an and Muhammad’s example. The beheadings (Qur’an 47:4), the sex slaves (Qur’an 4:3, 4:24, 23:1-6, 33:50, 70:30), even the burning alive of some of its enemies (in accord with Qur’an 2:194, punish them the same way they punished you) — it’s all in the Qur’an and Sunnah. Even if the Islamic State’s understanding of Islam is all wrong, it is still true that they claim the Islamic mantle for everything they do. To ignore and deny this, or to wave it away as Obama did as a “perverted interpretation of Islam,” is simply to obstruct efforts to understand the motives and goals of the enemy, which is an indispensable prerequisite to defeating that enemy.

Obama delivers remarks at the Islamic Society of Baltimore mosque in Catonsville, Maryland

From Obama’s speech Wednesday at the Islamic Society of Baltimore:

So the best way for us to fight terrorism is to deny these organizations legitimacy and to show that here in the United States of America, we do not suppress Islam; we celebrate and lift up the success of Muslim Americans. That’s how we show the lie that they’re trying to propagate. (Applause.) We shouldn’t play into terrorist propaganda. And we can’t suggest that Islam itself is at the root of the problem. That betrays our values. It alienates Muslim Americans. It’s hurtful to those kids who are trying to go to school and are members of the Boy Scouts, and are thinking about joining our military.

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Comments

  1. jihad3tracker says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 12:25 pm

    I SHOULD BE DOING OTHER MORE IMPORTANT THINGS, BUT THIS UNRAVELING OF OBAMA’S MIND — ONE SECTOR AT A TIME — IS AS FASCINATING AS WATCHING A HIGHWAY CAR CRASH SCENE.

    ***** AND THE ABSOLUTE BEST PART ???? HE IS PROBABLY HANDING THE ELECTION TO REPUBLICANS ! ! ! *****

    • Don McKellar says

      Feb 5, 2016 at 2:03 pm

      I think that it’s been proven that the American voter is very short in the memory department. Which is why Obama is visiting this mosque now. Voters will forget come election time. Shortly after the election, I predict that he will make a “conversion” to Islam so that he can be the first moslem in the White House (officially). He simply won’t be able to resist as his regime draws to a close. It will be his “crowing achievement”. Just watch.

      • Westman says

        Feb 5, 2016 at 2:59 pm

        I wish I could agree. You could right but it would send a shocking message that would be counter-productive for Islam.

        From his actions I would conclude that he is a populist without any real belief, possibly Agnostic or Atheist.

        I think he says whatever works best for his current agenda. When the NAACP representatives come to town they get the glad hand and when they leave it’s back to Oreo Cookie time. I think he means it when he says the US is not a Christian nation and then hob-jobs with Christian leaders. He is a product of two cultures and doesn’t favor either, but sees lslam as needing help -the community organizer spirit thinking it can solve the problems.

        I think he’s fallen into believing that, with the liberal European elites, they will plot the future of humanity; mixing cultures and genetics into a pool of peaceful exploitable labor while the elite remain in an elite ruling cabal. It’s the Kool-Aid.

        • Westman says

          Feb 5, 2016 at 6:43 pm

          What I’m trying to say is there is a Neo-Feudal system, based in control of capital instead of land, taking hold in the world. Many of its members will be found in the Council On Foreign Relations and other equivalent national and international organizations plus international banking.

          The UN itself, with all its flaws and corruption, is a vision of some eventual world order which will require administration. Mr. Obama is but a small cog in the much larger enterprise, in which he will remain as an insider after his Presidency. He’s simply gone from the role of community organizer to a new role of world organizer.

      • Shane says

        Feb 5, 2016 at 4:44 pm

        Obama is the main propaganda mouthpiece for Islam in the Western world. Obama is a true enemy of Western Civilization. Let’s pray that we elect a Republican to the presidency as the Democrats have surrendered to Islam and accepted dhimmi status.

        • Pere LaChaise says

          Feb 6, 2016 at 2:22 am

          What good are Republicans? Bush was exactly as bad as Obama. Your partisan bias is useless to this problem’s solution. We need a president who isn’t owned by Saud!

      • Rscot says

        Feb 6, 2016 at 6:33 am

        Regarding your first point, well, that what political ads are for.

    • c matt says

      Feb 5, 2016 at 3:36 pm

      I don’t know about the election – Republicans have made an art form of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

  2. worldcitizen1919 says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 12:33 pm

    I think he means just core spiritual values not social laws or other things.

    • Mark DeFord Eletion says

      Feb 5, 2016 at 1:05 pm

      “I think he means just core spiritual values not social laws or other things.”

      Mr. Obama, sometimes erroneously called a constitutional expert, is confusing the people’s government with the people themselves. They are not the same, nor are they meant to be the same. The people have placed constitutional restrictions on their government (which are often ignored), but those restrictions are not meant to apply to the people themselves. Many problems in society are best solved by citizen action rather than government action. The US government is prevented (by the Constitution) from attempting to control religion, but the people have no such restriction, nor should they.

    • c matt says

      Feb 5, 2016 at 3:33 pm

      Umm… social laws or other things cannot be separated from core spiritual values. Unless your core spiritual value is nothing.

    • john spielman says

      Feb 5, 2016 at 3:40 pm

      you mean “core spiritual values”… like MURDER RAPE LYING , SUBJUGATING BY FORCE PEOPLES WHO DON’T SHARE ISLAMIC VALUES?

      • boakai ngombu says

        Feb 5, 2016 at 5:23 pm

        and also SUPERIOR. what a come down is required for the slaves of the allah god of islam (unknowable; the best of all deceivers). to be truly American; self perception must transition from to to other Americans.

        that come down must be very difficult to endure when the slave has no spiritual resource other than SHARIA (enslavement tool). the core of slave is threatened outside of sharia; the core of slave is hardly more than nothing..

        • boakai ngombu says

          Feb 5, 2016 at 5:29 pm

          something was dropped …so change to:

          “… must transition from to Americans who are not slaves.

        • boakai ngombu says

          Feb 5, 2016 at 5:31 pm

          sorry, i get it no symbols

          “… must transition from SUPERIOR to being common (or worse) American who are not slaves.”

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 5, 2016 at 4:35 pm

      “worldcitizen1919” wrote:

      I think he means just core spiritual values not social laws or other things.
      ………………………

      Is anyone here surprised that meretricious Muslim apologist “worldcitizen1919” would consider *lying* to whitewash the vicious creed of Islam to be a “core spiritual value”? *Ugh*.

  3. Angemon says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 12:35 pm

    So the best way for us to fight terrorism is to deny these organizations legitimacy and to show that here in the United States of America, we do not suppress Islam; we celebrate and lift up the success of Muslim Americans.

    Appeaser, crocodile, etc.

    • Angemon says

      Feb 5, 2016 at 12:40 pm

      Anyway, we all know who the terrorists are:

      https://youtu.be/s_qypeYBoik?t=19

      • ICH says

        Feb 5, 2016 at 1:07 pm

        hahaha ARCHER !!!!

        The best show on TV 🙂

        • Angemon says

          Feb 7, 2016 at 5:36 pm

          I agree 🙂

          All this jihad terrorism eventually got to it though:

          http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/10/archer-drops-isis-the-fx-series-dumps-the-spy-orgs-name-in-light-of-the-islamic-state

  4. Westman says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 12:48 pm

    It is one thing to claim, correctly, that the majority of Muslims are peaceful and wish no harm to Infidels.

    It is a monstrous lie to claim that the ideology of Islam contains no prescripton of slavery, taxation, or death for Infidels nor calls for the elimination of all secular governments, religions, and Jews.

    The truth is that Islam’s doctrines contain ready-made justifications for violence and the mistreatment of Infidels. The majority of Muslims ignore it or are unaware of it. So it lies like poison, ready to infect minds at the direction of Clerics who, like Muhammad, have some conquest in mind.

    Slavery, taxation, or death for Infidels nor calls for the elimination of all secular governments, religions, and Jews is NOT contained in American(US) values and it is reprehensible to suggest it.

    Islam and Democracy are incompatible. Islam is a barbaric failure wherever it rules and it intends to physically rule the world

    • Dom107 says

      Feb 5, 2016 at 2:41 pm

      Yes its true.We ignored the Qur’an because most of us couldn’t be bothered to read it.It is difficult and unpleasant reading and we thought it was just an irrelevant anachronism.After all not many of us has read the Bible from cover to cover.Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones did but found it very boring.Who would have thought a movement would have sprung up in 2015 which is trying to live out all the nastiness from that book.The values are not acceptable to most freethinking people in the West but nearly all countries have significant Muslim minories.Our stupid leaders have imported a fifth column into our societies despite all the evidence from abroad.We will all pay a terrible price in the future!!??

      • Michael Copeland says

        Feb 5, 2016 at 3:58 pm

        Obtain a copy or two of “Reliance of the Traveller”, the Manual of Islamic Law, so as to be able to lend it or show it to people. Unlike the difficult Koran (which it cites where needed) it is arranged by subject and has a good index. It is a potent eye-opener.
        Reliance is available as a free download. It needs to be subdivided into chapters to make it more manageable (to save endless scrolling). That way you could circulate it at no expense.

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 5, 2016 at 7:07 pm

          You can also buy it at Amazon if you want it in book form:

          http://www.amazon.com/Reliance-Traveller-Classic-Islamic-Al-Salik/dp/0915957728

          Also, read the reviews–this was purchased largely by Anti-Jihadists intent on educating themselves and others about the dangers of Shari’ah and Islam. *Very heartening*.

          Just a smattering of Mohammedans and Da’wa artists. The interesting thing is that I didn’t find a *single* Infidel there who was not disturbed by its contents.

          It also has a review from the translator, who–very differently from the Infidels there–is a Muslim who primarily wants to *apply* Shari’ah law and teach it to other Mohammedans. He considers these horrors “ethical knowledge” for Muslims to apply in their own lives. He deems modern Fatwas–some of which, of course, absolutely *horrifying*–to be “notoriously lax”. *This* is what we are up against.

  5. abad says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 1:08 pm

    Obama needs to be tried for treason and impeached.

    What may be “peaceful” and “righteous” to Muslims is evil and destructive to others.

    Muslims. They are not wanted nor needed in the United States of America.

    I suggest they stay in their own Muslim countries if they hate the USA that much.

    • PJG says

      Feb 5, 2016 at 9:50 pm

      It would be rather unIslamic for them to stay in their own countries when there is such a wonderful opportunity for them to Islamise a non-Muslim country and suck it dry. Multiculturalism and liberal immigration policies are too delicious to resist.

  6. Plutarchus says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 1:17 pm

    BARACK OBAMA’S ANGELIC ISLAM OF PEACE

    Egypt’s President El- Sisi rightly believes that Islam is in need of a major reformation, and that Moslems have to change their thinking and behavior in order to make their faith a true religion of peace. But see-no-evil-in-Islam Obama wrongly believes the opposite: that Islam is inherently a religion of peace; and that it’s non-Moslems who have to change their thinking about Islam and their behavior toward Moslems-i.e. it is unbelievers who have to make peace with Islam not Islam with unbelievers.

    Obama has an extremely benign and radical view of Islam that has little to do with its dark, concrete, historical reality going back centuries to its power mad, warmongering, mass murdering, terrorist founder. Obama’s idea of Islam is left-wing, politically correct, utopian nonsense-an idealistic, abstract, other worldly notion of the faith-Islam as it ought to be, not as it is. Though well meaning, Obama’s “Islam of Peace” is dangerously naive, misleading, stupid and false. As the directing principle of his Moslem outreach efforts to reconcile America and Islam Obama’s idea of Islam has been a disaster of historic proportions.

    I love what my friend Better Dead Than A Raghead posted in the comment section of my blog:

    “So right you are Apollo. Obama lives in an idealistic dream world where Islam is a religion of angels. And anyone less than an angel is not a true Muslim. It’s nuts.”

    And so it is. There is no room for Islamic terrorists or murdering jihadists in Obama’s heavenly Islam of Angels (except if they’re radical Iranian Shiites).

    For more on this subject click http://www.apollospeaks.com

    • Custos Custodum says

      Feb 5, 2016 at 6:54 pm

      Obama has an extremely benign and radical view of Islam that has little to do with its dark, concrete, historical reality going back centuries to its power mad, warmongering, mass murdering, terrorist founder. Obama’s idea of Islam is left-wing, politically correct, utopian … an idealistic, abstract, other worldly notion of … Islam … Though well meaning, … dangerously naive …

      So in 2016, some people still refuse to believe the obvious – that Obama KNOWS what Islam is about. Obama was raised as a Muslim from his earliest childhood, and was trained in Muslim skills (including recitation) as a child. Since then, Obama has been on constant daily communion with Muslims.

      Obama loves Islam for the same reason he loves communism (let’s quit soft-selling it as “socialism”): it gives him a sense of belonging to an elite, and a bundle of ready-made excuses for treating others as trash.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 5, 2016 at 7:13 pm

      Plutarcus wrote:

      Obama has an extremely benign and radical view of Islam that has little to do with its dark, concrete, historical reality going back centuries to its power mad, warmongering, mass murdering, terrorist founder.
      …………………….

      Unfortunately, Plutarcus, I think this has to do more with deliberately whitewashing Islam than in genuinely if naively believing it to be benignant.

      • Custos Custodum says

        Feb 6, 2016 at 1:57 am

        … minds think …

  7. S.K says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    Obama is a very intelligent man but he is being very foolish when it comes to Islam, I suppose because he has Muslim relatives he tip toes and refuses to call the Islamic spade a spade but fact is that Islam is the problem not the intepretation of so called extremists, just go and look at the Prophet of the Muslims Muhammads autobiography, he was a murderer, he had people assassinated, he fought many battles, after victory he got the first pick of the prettiest women captives, women that were his property to do with as he pleased and he did so, he raped these women, he had slaves, he had a adultress stoned to death etc., this is not the candidate for Humanist of the year.Anyone who copies Muhammad in a Western Socety will be a threat to the security of Western people. Only those muslims that are in essence hypocrites pose none or little threat to our Western countries. Islam is the extremism.

  8. Westman says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 2:17 pm

    Obama: “It alienates Muslim Americans. It’s hurtful to those kids who are trying to go to school and are members of the Boy Scouts, and are thinking about joining our military.”

    Total US Muslim Citizens, not counting 250,000 yearly work permitted migrants, 2.75 million.

    Total Scouts in BSA: 2,400,000.

    2010 Muslim Boy Scouts:

    1,140 Cub Scouts in 41 packs
    787 Boy Scouts in 32 troops
    89 Venturers in six crews

    Percent of US citizens who are Scouts: 7.5%
    Percent of US Muslims who are Scouts: 0.07% <—-

    This shows definitely that most Muslim boys do NOT join the Boy Scouts. What it actually shows is there is a minority of US Muslims that are integrating into American culture, most likely, professionals. The majority are not integrating.

    2015 Muslims in the Military: 5900, 0.27% of military. This is about 0.21% of US Muslims. About 0.80% of Americans are serving in the military

    2009 Fort Hood. Nidal Malik Hasan fatally shot 13 people and injured more than 30 others.

    POTUS should double check his speech writers.

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Feb 5, 2016 at 11:24 pm

      It is *good* to know that Muslims are not joining either the Boy Scouts *or* the Military in any appreciable numbers, in the USA.

      In fact, I’d be best pleased if there were *none*.

      No Muslims in any given Infidel army, police force, or other social or political organisation = no infiltration, no fifth column, no potential Coup (as has happened far too many times in Africa when Muslims have infiltrated the army and politics) nor Ambush (as happened at Fort Hood).

      Memo to any jihadwatchers who are engaged in the Scouts or the Guides…. please keep an eye open. *Beware* of any Muslim families who bring a kid along. Because whatever Islam touches, it ruins.

      Memo to jihadwatchers anywhere in the West – or beyond the West, for that matter, in Africa, in India – who have an opportunity to *become* involved in Scouts or Guides, Cubs or Brownies: DO. Because the skills the *infidel* kids learn there may prove life-saving and society-saving.

      Whether you are involved in the Scouting movement, or whether you are preparing to get involved: Look up the history of the scouting movement. Look up its *traditional* ideals. Resolve to teach and encourage those. And, discreetly, as you are able, find ways to make the kids and their families aware of the deadly menace that Islam – Muslims, the Umma or Mohammedan Mob and their hideous cult – represents to all free people everywhere.

      If the institutions have been ‘infiltrated’ then the counter jihad has to do some *counter*-infiltration, and FAST. And it ought not to be impossible because… these are *our own* institutions.

  9. Champ says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 2:47 pm

    Obama: “We can’t suggest that Islam itself is at the root of the problem. That betrays our values.”

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    More lies from obama, the man with the lying tongue …

    And just ask any ex-muslim WHY they *left* and they’ll tell you it’s because of ..ISLAM!

  10. Rick Black says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 3:02 pm

    Robert is Brilliant and classy as always. Bless You

  11. jerry snaper says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 3:04 pm

    Dear Caliph obaaama, islam IS the root of the problem as written in the koran. Americans must learn the definition of key muslim concepts such as Kitman, Taquyya, Jizya, infidel, Kaaba, and DHIMMI

  12. Dan Jones says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 3:06 pm

    Unholy follower of a pedophile is our leader…

    More End Time News At:
    http://www.shininginthedark.com/?page_id=4526

  13. c matt says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 3:31 pm

    I guess our values are remaining ignorant, denying reality and never finding solutions. In that case, Obama is right.

  14. Custos Custodum says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 3:33 pm

    And we can’t suggest that Islam itself is at the root of the problem.

    Note that Obama does not actually say that Islam is not in fact “at the root of the problem.” He is merely saying that “we can’t suggest” this truth.

    Whenever Obama talks about some “suggestion,” “notion” etc., he is waving a carefully constructed strawman in order to mislead, rather like a fighter plane deploying “chaff” (radio-reflective metal strips) to mislead enemy radar.

    • Oppressaphobe says

      Feb 6, 2016 at 7:35 am

      Typical babble that comes from Obama’s mouth. Notice that he is not a very clear-headed, logical person? Sneaky, yes…not sure he’s all that smart…there is a difference. People confuse the two, in my opinion.

  15. Bridget Ames says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 3:43 pm

    He is like Brandy Maxx speaking for Leslie Knope on Parks and Rec. They are not my values.

  16. underbed cat says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 3:47 pm

    Response, “We can’ t suggest that Islam itself is at the root of the problem. That betrays our values.”

    I respectfully disagree, those are not my values to deceive or misdirect…..or defend the indefensible.

    Only a muslim could say the words you suggest, to fog the facts and assist the spread of islam. Unless of course the problem are the non-believers. or the words written in the very book that has created the problem. I have no horse to ride. Just the fact sir, just the facts. Do you know who is the best of all deceivers?

  17. somehistory says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 4:07 pm

    It’s just too much like the abuser telling his wife, “You make me hit you. If only you’d have dinner ready and you’d keep the house clean, then I wouldn’t have to.”
    Or he tells his children, “You make me whip you. If you only you’d obey me and not make me mad.”

    His every word is designed to twist the truth until no one knows what it even looks or sounds like anymore.
    It churns the stomach, much like the smell of rotten eggs to a pregnant lady.

    Advocating for the wild beast from satan in order to help that evil demon gain more control.

  18. somehistory says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    Looking at all he said and to what audience he said it: he may have been pretending to speak to the majority of America and non moslims, but he was in the barracks…there weren’t any non moslims there, except for maybe some secret service guys, and who knows for sure about them. But it was pretense. He was speaking to moslims and so when he said, “we can’t suggest that islam is the root of the problem,” that means moslims can’t tell the turht about islam…by even just suggesting that the unholy book with its unholy, evil code is the root of the problem or has any part to play….**because that’s not who THEY are.**

    His *values* are not my values, nor the values of anyone I personally know.

  19. gravenimage says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 4:25 pm

    Obama: “We can’t suggest that Islam itself is at the root of the problem. That betrays our values.”
    …………………………………….

    Telling the truth “betrays our values”? He can speak for himself–lying and refusing to face facts certainly are not *American* values. Just who does he mean when he says “our” values?

    More:

    His chief support for his claim that the Islamic State is not Muslim and doesn’t represent Islam in any way was this: “The vast majority of the people they kill are innocent Muslim men, women and children.” His unspoken assumption here is that Muslims would never kill fellow Muslims, and indeed, the Qur’an forbids that (4:92). But Islam mandates the killing of those considered apostates.
    …………………………………….

    Islam, in fact, has a doctrine for this–that of Takfir, where a Muslim may be deemed an “apostate”, a “heretic”, or simply insufficiently Islamic, and hence a virtual Infidel–and hence fair game to treat as an Infidel, including murdering them.

    More:

    So the best way for us to fight terrorism is to deny these organizations legitimacy and to show that here in the United States of America, we do not suppress Islam
    …………………………………….

    Yeah–no doubt our storied religious tolerance will convince them–except, of course, that they have no respect for this at all; though they are fine with exploiting it. And the Infidels West will *never* be Islamic enough for pious Muslims–how could it be, with so many Infidels living freely and even occupying positions of power? If their fellow Muslims are often insufficiently Islamic, then we Infidels certainly will be.

    More:

    …we celebrate and lift up the success of Muslim Americans…
    …………………………………….

    Unless we are celebrating the success of Muslim “Americans” *as Jihadists*, this isn’t going to cut any ice…

    More:

    We shouldn’t play into terrorist propaganda. And we can’t suggest that Islam itself is at the root of the problem. That betrays our values. It alienates Muslim Americans. It’s hurtful to those kids who are trying to go to school and are members of the Boy Scouts, and are thinking about joining our military.
    …………………………………….

    I suppose during WWII we should not have suggested that Fascism itself was the root of the problem–that might have alienated Nazis. After all, that might have been hurtful to Fascist spies trying to infiltrate our military…

    And look closer at that term “alienation”–this is lightly coded speech for Jihad “radicalization”–in other words, the charge is that if we dare to admit that Jihadists act in the name of and on the tenets of their creed, that this will alienate Muslims and turn them into Jihadists.

    That is, if we dare to acknowledge the Jihad, we will create more Jihad–so we must pretend it does not exist, lest we want more of the same.

    When has such denial every been an American *value*–rather than just a periodic national failing?

  20. somehistory says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 5:26 pm

    To keep saying, “that’s not who we are”…as if he knows, as if he is the same as the majority of citizens, is a ploy in an attempt to *shame* that majority into accepting the idea that speaking the truth about islam is a bad thing, something of which to be ashamed.

    The beast from satan the devil must be exposed while there is yet time.

  21. Jim says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 6:40 pm

    As many others have said Obama needs to be brought up on charges of treason. He is putting Islam and the feelings of Muslims ahead of the safety of our country. There is no excuse or anything that could explain around it he is a traitor and he deserves to be impeached and imprisioned. How can a strong country such as America not revolt against their leader when the leader is trying to destroy it from within. How do we let this continue and not knowing whatever tricks he has up his sleeves before he leaves office. He is so obviously a Muslim or someone who wants to be dominated by Islam.

    • Oppressaphobe says

      Feb 6, 2016 at 10:50 am

      Even if they feckless can’t impeach, we can always demand that when a sane leader gets into power, that we try Obama for treason. Remember they wanted to try Bush for war crimes? Oh yeah, he was soooooo wrong about the ME and weapons of mass destruction…maybe. But what did he know that we didn’t know is what I want to know. I think there’s a story behind the Iraq war.

      But Bush was a coward to say that Islam is a peaceful religion. He should have known better but Bush was joined at the hip with middle eastern power brokers. In other words, he sold us out for money as all our leaders have been doing for so long.

      It’s time to start putting them in prison. Then, and only then will we have a democratic republic.

  22. nacazo says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 7:49 pm

    Yes. Everyone knows that during WWII, Franklin D. Roosevelt said: ““We can’t suggest that nazism itself is at the root of the problem. That betrays our values.”

    /sarc off

  23. Nimrod says

    Feb 6, 2016 at 1:00 am

    “When did denial and willful ignorance become core American values?”

    Ever since Jimmy Carter created the Department of Education and neo-Marxism took over the country?

  24. tilda says

    Feb 6, 2016 at 2:00 am

    Obama: “We can’t suggest that Islam itself is at the root of the problem. That betrays our values.”

    Thomas Jefferson more than suggested that Islam was at the root of the problem: Jefferson saw it for what it was, and went to war over it. For some reaon neither Jefferson himself, nor anyone else, thought that Jefferson had somehow betrayed “our values”.

  25. sally says

    Feb 6, 2016 at 2:44 am

    Haha, you just put two and two together for the innocents, obeelzebub. Your brotherhood masters want to spit on you for your folly … but evil always outs itself.

  26. خَليفة says

    Feb 6, 2016 at 3:52 am

    The first step in solving a problem is to acknowledge that it exists.
    The second step requires that you realize it needs to get solved.
    The third step is understanding all parameters which contribute to the problem.
    The fourth step is deriving a solution.
    The fifth step requires having the resolve to implement the solution.

    Note: Not finding a solution in step 4 is the result of not sufficiently completing step 3.

    It is clear that Obama and his ilk are unwilling to get past the first step.
    Law enforcement is not able to complete step 3 due to obama’s policy on Islam – thus as it stands law enforcement will never solve the jihad problem.

  27. Kasey says

    Feb 6, 2016 at 6:13 am

    So Obama says that action in blaming Islam, would betray our values…….That’s absolute CRAP and appeasement is NOT a value!, and as for any values within Islam…..just consider “Intolerance, Supremacy,Male Domination, Taqiyya and Death to Apostates and you have the reality of its five pillars. ie the real ones!. These are applied and supported either both openly or tacitly by most Muslims

  28. duh)swami says

    Feb 6, 2016 at 6:58 am

    When your values are based om treason, lies, fraud, forgery, and betrayal,you have no values…

  29. Oppressaphobe says

    Feb 6, 2016 at 7:53 am

    In case you haven’t seen this utube, it does address issues here:

    https://youtu.be/pSPvnFDDQHk

  30. Savvy Kafir says

    Feb 6, 2016 at 9:59 am

    But willful ignorance IS a core American value these days — among both liberals and conservatives; they’re just willfully ignorant regarding different issues.

  31. gordon miller says

    Feb 6, 2016 at 10:23 am

    Obama is empathetic to Muslims for the obvious reason that he himself is a Muslim. He was born a Muslim, was brought up by Muslims (and Communists) had Muslim mentors, associates closely with Muslims, has Muslim staff in the White house… the list goes on.
    He doesn’t want to take appropriate military action against Muslim terrorists in the Middle East because he does’t want to hurt his own kind. And he is not above telling a blizzard of lies to justify his pro-Muslim policies here and abroad.
    Perhaps worst of all, he is now intent on bringing Muslim migrants into the United States even in the face of the disastrous results this has caused European countries.
    We should have impeached him years ago for acting against the interests of the United States. It’s too late now, thanks to a feckless and cowardly congress. Can we put up with his treasonous behavior for another 11 months?

    • Oppressaphobe says

      Feb 6, 2016 at 10:40 am

      Nothing in the constitution that says we can’t impeach now.

      No, we probably can’t take another 11 months of Obama Gone Wild.

      It’s up to the people to raise a stink, put it all over the internet, call their reps, go on the talk show, etc…

      But Savvy is right about willful ignorance. Nobody wants to bring up a subject that spells w o r k…

      ….so many tweets…so little time…OMG!

  32. Paul Smith says

    Feb 6, 2016 at 10:39 am

    Obama: “We can’t suggest that Islam itself is at the root of the problem.
    That betrays our values.”
    We can’t suggest anything that Obama says is rooted in honesty or is
    ever worth listening to. That betrays our common sense.

    • somehistory says

      Feb 7, 2016 at 10:33 am

      Truly.

  33. moespene says

    Feb 6, 2016 at 5:14 pm

    their own book suggests “that islam itself is at the root of the problem”…

    their own book is a hate crime and call to violence and should be banned.

  34. SoCalmike says

    Feb 6, 2016 at 7:00 pm

    Obama doesn’t live in a dream world.
    We do telling ourselves and each other he isnt waging war on the west from the oval office.
    The man is a traitor who hates us.
    He sells his treason as high minded far sighted values and no one wants to call him on it.
    He’s already gotten away w murder and treason and has no plans to let up.

  35. Moshe says

    Feb 6, 2016 at 9:18 pm

    It’s not only apostasy, there is a wider term “hypocrisy”, that is the hypocrites, who must be killed, according to the Koran. And that can mean anyone who does not agree with a retarded imam or political leader in anything.
    And that’s why they are murdering each other more than they murder us. Which puts a pure islamist world in perspective: Once our all grandchildren will be muslims there will be no peace. Rather the war will just really start then.

  36. E Ward says

    Feb 6, 2016 at 11:25 pm

    Obama was speaking in a place where WOMEN were not ALLOWED. Would he golf in a place where blacks were not allowed? Jerk.

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