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Swedish church to collect funds to build mosque

Feb 3, 2016 11:05 pm By Robert Spencer

How wonderful. How sweet and charitable and generous and loving. Maybe the Muslims who go to this mosque once it is built will look upon their Christian neighbors with gratitude, and treat them kindly. More likely, however, they will see the Christians’ generosity as their due, since the Qur’an commands Muslims to fight against the “People of the Book” and force them to pay the jizya, a tax from which Muslims are exempt. So non-Muslims paying money to Muslims is the divinely-ordained order of things, and doesn’t exempt these Christians from the general commands Muslims have in the Qur’an to wage war against and subjugate unbelievers. It is conceivable that the Muslims who go to this mosque could one day attack and destroy the church whose people collected money to build the mosque, and they will do so because they believe this is what the Qur’an tells them to do, and Christians being nice to them doesn’t mitigate the Qur’anic command.

The Swedish church in Nacka is the Christian Church today in microcosm. All denominations. This is today’s Christianity. This is the Christianity of Pope Francis, and Patriarch Gregory III Laham, and Bishop Robert McManus, and Rick Warren, and so many other clerics who think that if they ignore and deny the problem of Muslim persecution of Christians, and pursue their chimerical and fruitless “dialogue,” that all will be well, and that those who tell the truth about what is happening are a continuing danger to the Church.

Well, they have the Church they want now, and as the years go by, it will become clear to everyone what they have done, and what unimaginable damage and destruction they have enabled.

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“Swedish church to collect funds to build mosque,” Christians in Pakistan, February 3, 2016 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):

The Swedish church in Naka [sic] has been planning to raise funds to build a mosque adjacent to the church building in Fisksätra, Stokholm, for years.

The joint building is to be called the “House of God” and is estimated to cost SEK 39 million ($4,548,630), an amount the church tries to collect through a foundation.

Priest and former bishop of Karlstad, Bengt Wadensjö, presented the project in an article in a Swedish newspaper Svenska Dagbladet. Referring to the Swedish democrats, he wrote “When fear of the unknown in the form of Islam now gives Sweden a profile in the news by SD taking place in parliament, I want to highlight a different picture of Sweden.”

Contradicting Jimmie Åkesson, head of SD’s statement that Muslims were the biggest foreign threat, he wrote, “In Nacka we do not believe that immigrants or Muslims would be a threat. They are an asset.”

Bengt Wadensjö said that Muslims and Christians should unite in the idea that God is one, and added that “Muslims are generally peaceful and honest”, and that the project would lead to that “world peace begins in Fisksätra”.

Presently, the idea is to build the mosque adjacent to the church, a glazed foyer joining the two.

In November 2014, Nacka Parish decided to transfer bequeathed funds to the collection fund to build the mosque, ie money from deceased who wanted to support the Swedish Church by donating money. Although this decision was appealed, the protest was rejected.

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  1. mortimer says

    Feb 3, 2016 at 11:15 pm

    HI SWEDES, WELCOME TO DHIMMITUDE!

    The discriminatory Pact of Omar is what Muslims want to impose in Sweden…a code to remove the human rights of Christians. In part, the ‘Pact’ says:
    -Do not initiate the ‘Salam’ to the Jews and Christians, and if you meet any of them in a road, force them to its narrowest alley.
    -We will not teach our children the Qur’an, publicize practices of Shirk, invite anyone to Shirk or prevent any of our fellows from embracing Islam, if they choose to do so.
    -We will respect Muslims, move from the places we sit in if they choose to sit in them.
    -We will not imitate their clothing, caps, turbans, sandals, hairstyles, speech, nicknames and title names, or ride on saddles, hang swords on the shoulders, collect weapons of any kind or carry these weapons.
    -We will not encrypt our stamps in Arabic, or sell liquor.
    -We will have the front of our hair cut, wear our customary clothes wherever we are, wear belts around our waist, refrain from erecting crosses on the outside of our churches and demonstrating them and our books in public in Muslim fairways and markets.
    -We will not sound the bells in our churches, except discretely, or raise our voices while reciting our holy books inside our churches in the presence of Muslims, nor raise our voices [with prayer] at our funerals, or light torches in funeral processions in the fairways of Muslims, or their markets.
    -We will not bury our dead next to Muslim dead, or buy servants who were captured by Muslims.
    -We will be guides for Muslims and refrain from breaching their privacy in their homes.’
    -When I gave this document to `Umar, he added to it, `We will not beat any Muslim. These are the conditions that we set against ourselves and followers of our religion in return for safety and protection. If we break any of these promises that we set for your benefit against ourselves, then our Dhimmah (promise of protection) is broken and you are allowed to do with us what you are allowed of people of defiance and rebellion.”’

    • particolor says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 5:18 am

      Yep! I thought my eyesight was going on me in my old age !!
      I never read that Did I 🙁
      And here was me thinking that Aiding and Abetting the Enemy was TREASON ! 🙂

  2. mortimer says

    Feb 3, 2016 at 11:19 pm

    I notice in the picture that the mosque is physically higher than the church. This is in keeping with Sharia law that demands churches should be built lower than mosques to show their subjugation.

    I notice also the church has no bell tower. That too is in keeping with Sharia law, that forbids the ringing of a church bell.

    • gravenimage says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 1:22 am

      Good catches, Mortimer. I had noticed the Mosque was higher than the church, but since the design is so modern had not noted the significant lack of a bell tower.

      • old white guy says

        Feb 4, 2016 at 7:44 am

        I think these church people will be among those of whom Christ will say, I never knew you.

        • Manuel Paleologus says

          Feb 4, 2016 at 8:38 am

          Amen. Amen. Amen. You said perfectly correct. These so called Christians/Catholic are not serving Christ but the devil, which came under a disguise.
          Jesus said : You are with Me or against Me. What these false submissive Christians are giving up in front of islam. They betray Christianity and the Gospel of Jesus. These are far more dangerous than the known muslims.
          They spiritually prostitute themselves in order to find a compromising way of survival.

        • Sandra Lee Smith says

          Feb 4, 2016 at 2:25 pm

          You can likely take that to the bank! Throughout the Bible, OT, as well as NT we are constrained from “yoking”, in any way, with those who are idolators; what “idol” could possibly offend Yhwh and Yeshu a MORE than Satan? By the character description of “Allah” offered inthe Quran, the ONLY Biblical match to that char acter is Lucifer, aka Satan. I will NEVER understand hoeANY professing Christian can FAIL to make this connection, and avoid any such association like it was te zombie apocalypse! Our Lord could not have been more clear or explicit in this, had He tried! It’s NOT a “hidden mystery” in the Word to be teased out. It starts in Exodus, and appears regularly through Revelation. Are “Christians” SO ignorant of both our Bible and Islam as to believe Islam’s taqqiya that easily and completely???

      • Christianblood says

        Feb 4, 2016 at 12:16 pm

        gravenimage

        As I said many, many times, people and their governments in the West, whether it is the US, Canada, Germany, UK, Sweden, Norway etc really Hate Christians but love muslims and would even arm and side with muslims such as the genocidal Turks, Saudis, ISIS and other muslim jihadist groups to persecute and massacre Christians as America and Nato are doing now in Syria, in the Balkans and elsewhere. This is an undeniable FACT!

        • gravenimage says

          Feb 4, 2016 at 5:59 pm

          There is no doubt that these Christians building a Mosque are suicidal dhimmi fools.

          But they no doubt believe they are being good Christians by helping their Muslim “brethren”

          Your constant claims that Christians in the West actually hate Christians and want to see them murdered and love Jihad is just bs.

          What these Swedish Christians are doing is willful stupidity, and I am disgusted by it–it is also *very* dangerous. But to pretend that they are knowingly supporting Jihad–rather than pretending it does not exist—is just false.

          I say again that “Christianblood’s” main purpose here is hatred of the West, not of Jihad.

        • Ex-muslim says

          Feb 5, 2016 at 12:15 pm

          Gravenimage

          I disagree with you. I have been a muslim half of my life and understand both cultures.
          The fact is that I observed is that the majority of the people in the West and Western governments love and prefer muslims and want to help them while they hate Christians and ignore their plight. Graven, I have seen missionaries and even churches who are doing this same thing time and again. There is some DEEP ROTTENESS in the Western world, really deep rottenness of the soul!

        • Ex-muslim says

          Feb 5, 2016 at 12:19 pm

          Gravenimage

          I forgot to say when someone rightly criticizes and speaks the truth about the Western attitudes which are despicable it does not mean they hate it. That is a kind of Islamic mentality because if you dare to critique islam muslims will immediately think that you hate islam and call you names.

    • Sweetatorscreampuff says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 8:13 am

      I cannot remember which historical novel I read several years back, may have been one by Jean Plaidy, about fighting the moors in Spain. And one thing that was used against the moors was ringing bells. They HATED bells of any kind. Too long ago to remember details but that one fact stuck in my mind.

    • Dacritic says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 10:33 am

      I am shaking my head in disbelief. Just when you thought it couldn’t get any worse or more stupid, it does. Jesus, if you’re reading this, and I’m sure you are…..any time now.

      • Katnis says

        Feb 4, 2016 at 10:11 pm

        I was scrolling down to express my disbelief in how stupid these people were. And I caught your comment and had to give a strong “AGREED.” This has got to be one of the dimmest, dumbest, most naive, most ludicrous things I have ever read.

        WAKE UP, dummies!

    • deyong says

      Mar 10, 2016 at 7:13 pm

      Yes…..antichrist n the gangs showing their fake faiths . I wanna say that only afew people come into heaven !!

  3. Don McKellar says

    Feb 3, 2016 at 11:21 pm

    THAT’S ALMOST LIKE A SYNAGOGUE IN 1930’S GERMANY RAISING MONEY TO BUILD A CONCENTRATION CAMP!

    • Azacque says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 1:54 am

      Are these the luke warm people our Lord spews from his mouth in revelations?

      • Kepha says

        Feb 4, 2016 at 8:24 am

        Revelation, not “Revelations”. Douuble check the heading in your Bible.

        • Azacque says

          Feb 4, 2016 at 8:28 am

          I know that would also be forgivened.

    • Sandra Lee Smith says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 2:29 pm

      Good analogy!

    • robert says

      Feb 5, 2016 at 2:48 pm

      this is the right analogy-thank you

  4. Don McKellar says

    Feb 3, 2016 at 11:41 pm

    So in the building to the left, people are taught and believe the Bible and that Jesus was divine. In the building to the right, people are taught and believe that the Bible was changed by evil Jews and that Jesus was only a prophet and not divine. In the building to the left, forgiveness, equality, and tolerance are taught. In the building to the right, condmenation, a multi-tier system of person hood exists (Christians and Jews < moslems, women < men), and you must fight and hate those who don't believe as you do.

    Remarkable structure, that one is. Promoted by what have to be the stupidest Christians who ever lived.

    • Keys says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 4:43 pm

      A House divided, built on sand.

  5. Karen says

    Feb 3, 2016 at 11:51 pm

    Wonderful (not really) that legacies left to support the church will be used instead to build a mosque. Perhaps some of the church’s current members will be rethinking their wills, and whether they want their gifts spent this way. Construction costs aside, this congregation is being signed up for a very long term and expensive financial commitment by their leadership.

    Peace and love aside, don’t the Muslims deny the diety of Christ, and the Trinity, call us polytheists, and claim the Bible is corrupt? Neighborliness is fine, but where is the basis for close religious partnership?

    Looking at the model, I see the cross is slightly higher than the dome on the mosque. Hmmmm…yeah. That’s not going to happen.

    • Westman says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 11:24 am

      The church fathers couldn’t raise enough money to build a Mosque with funds for that purpose so they became thieves and took the money dedicated to the church against the objections of the members.

      The outcome is predictible: Eventually there will be two domes and no cross and Swedes will avoid walking anywhere close to it.

    • quotha raven says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 12:05 pm

      To Karen, who sez “Neighborliness is fine, but where is the basis for close religious partnership?”

      I know it’s simplistic, but I’d like to remind you of the old saw “Good fences make good neighbors.” I think it applies here…

      Cheers!

      quotha raven

  6. Typoist says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:08 am

    Time to recycle those old Polish jokes. They never fitted the Poles, but Swedes are going to be the gold standard of stupidity for the twenty first century.

    • Dom107 says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 7:26 am

      No mad Mrs Merkel and the obedient automaton Germans will be that!!!!????

    • Kepha says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 8:30 am

      A great-grandma from Norway used to say, “En Svensker er en Norsker med hjarrer slutt utt” (A Swede is a Norwegian with the brains knocked out–two nationalities that long engaged in a bit of good-natured ribbing of each other). Unfortunately, Norway isn’t any less Dhimmi than Sweden at this point.

      I doubt there are a dozen churches in all of Scandinavia where it is preached that Jesus Christ is truly God and truly man, that the virgin birth is not merely a fable, and that the Bible is the trustworthy Word of God. The worst elements of pietism (of which there are also sound elements) and a couple centuries of theological liberalism have gutted most of the major Protestant churches. Then again, it is hard to live with Jesus’ Great Commission.

      • John Magne Trane says

        Feb 4, 2016 at 3:34 pm

        The Norwegian state church has been taken over by the Socialists.

        If you want the current spelling you could write “En svenske er en nordmann (or en norsk) med hjernen slått ut.” It was true in the 90 year union between Sweden and Norway, and is sadly true today as well. But there are a lot of brainless creatures somehow walking on two feet on the other side of the Keel as well.

  7. E Ward says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:09 am

    I’m not religious in a traditional sense, but even I know the Christian God and the Muslim Allah are not the same. If I know a guy named Bob who was born in Cleveland, and you know a guy who was born in New York City, can they be the same guy? NO.

    People can spend their money however they like. I just don’t see it working out. Your Bob and my Bob are not the same guy by a long shot. And shame on the Christians for not knowing it.

  8. Donovan Nuera says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:18 am

    Just don’t let the Christian parents let their young daughters wander off after mass and accidently go through the unmarked door to the new FGM clinic by accident….jus sayin’

  9. Donovan Nuera says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:21 am

    To Swedish Construction Workers in the near future: please refuse to be a part of this just as NYC construction workers had let it be known that they would never ever work on the Victory Mosque at Ground Zero….

  10. islam :- the religion of chaos says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:24 am

    TV companies should jump in now and buy the comedic / drama rights to this one,,, it’ll be a series that goes on forever …

    GUDS HUS … full of love & hate, diffusion & disaster, sex with boys & sex with girls, multiple partners, pious layabouts, govt handouts, spy vs spy, and who has the highest cross / crescent …

    The sub stories go on and on forever … a cleaver screen writer could have a field day …

    too bad the christians will blubber their way around in ever diminishing circles ,,,

    the muslims will blow up the TV network and murder the screen writer before it gets the second series to air …

  11. Infidel from Down Under says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:26 am

    And in return soon it will be ‘Swedish Mosque collects funds to Destroy Church’

    • Pere LaChaise says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 10:24 am

      …which will be accomplished in one day, because improvised explosives are cheap. If this monstrosity comes to be built, and I hope it never does, the Christians who worship there will soon be under pressure not to sing so loud, not to ring bells, especially at Easter, to ge their women and girls to dress more modestly: in short, to become Moslem to suit their guests. Also, the Moslems will deface the church and refuse to pay any power bills, because the dhimmis next door bear all the responsibility and liability. There will be rapes of girls to demonstrate Islamic supremacism, and beatings of any men who try to defend them. Eventually the church will close and the former bishop will either kill himself, or profess the shahada next door, after which he will ascend in a cherry picker to personally take down the cross from the defunct church. And the Swedish press will broadcast it as a beautiful statement of unity, because the act of destruction of the pernicious doctrine of Christ’s human Divinity, source of so much unhappiness, will be accomplished by this good man Bengt Wadensjö, “who said that Muslims and Christians should unite in the idea that God is one.”

  12. Wellington says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:28 am

    As an invincibly ignorant agnostic, I have to say that a good bit of the Christian world has recently lost its mind. Not all of the Christian world, but a good portion of it has. And Lutherans in Sweden aside, and other Protestants like so many silly gooey Anglicans and Presbyterians (you know the rubes I’m talking about, the ones who call for a boycott of Israel and look the other way when Muslims do their usual “stuff”), sensible Catholics, since they belong to easily the largest sect of Christians on the planet, have to seriously consider the IMMENSE harm done to the Catholic faith by Vatican II, which did so much damage to a faith that had stood the test of time, including, among other idiocies, the declaration that all religions have valid revelatory experiences (Islam did? Are you outta’ you’re freaking collective religious mind?) and the destruction of the beauty of the Latin Mass (just on aesthetic grounds alone this has been a tragedy———-and enough already with the insipid and annoying “Let us offer each other the sign of peace”).

    Islam is a menace to civilization. But so is Christianity without its mind and its balls. Holy Hell, you know it’s bad when an agnostic like me has to be rooting for Christianity to get back to its roots. If this doesn’t say most everything, I don’t know what would.

    • mortimer says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 12:54 am

      Agree…’Islam is a menace to civilization’.

      The churches have forgotten the saying of Jesus: ‘Be wise as serpents…!’ Instead, they are acting as gullible as a pack of Neville Chamberlains.

      Christians are commanded to love God with all their mind, but those Christians certainly are not. They have not read Islam’s foundational source texts, and yet, they feel they can build a bridge to Islam or coexist with a warrior faith whose goal is the disappearance of Christianity.

      Gullibility, Pollyanna-like naivety are not real Christianity.

      • Jay Boo says

        Feb 4, 2016 at 4:58 am

        Swedish AFFLUENZA
        The Swedes have more money than they know what to do with.

        Muslim invaders will cure them of having more money than sense.

      • deja vu says

        Feb 4, 2016 at 4:14 pm

        Horrifying as this gross insult to our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ is, the Bible clearly prophesies that the Church of the end times will be characterized by apostasy. Paul said that the Antichrist will not be revealed until “the apostasy comes first” (2 Thessalonians 2:3). Jesus prophesied that “many will fall away” and “most people’s love will grow cold” (Matthew 24:10, 12).

        Extract from an article on the subject:

        ‘I do not fear Islamic Jihadists nearly as much as I fear the Christian church in the West departing from biblical orthodoxy.” What gives that fear such certainty is the knowledge of a historical fact—namely, throughout history, Islam grew when Christianity was weakened through its departure from biblical authority. There is no doubt that Islam grew out of a corpse of a church that was beset with heresy and apostasy. Immediately prior to the rise of Islam, viruses of false gospels had marred Christianity beyond recognition.

        In the 7th century, the Arab/Muslim armies stormed their way toward the pristine coastal Mediterranean towns of North Africa, which bulged with tens of thousands of churches. The conquest was over in a very short time. Having lost their biblical moorings, those churches wondered if God was not bringing a new revelation. They were so opened-minded that they were like chickens letting the foxes into the hen house. It was only a matter of time before those tens of thousands of churches turned into mosques.’

        The falsehoods facing the church then are not unlike the ones the church in the West faces today. Then, they were known as: “Arianism,” “Nestorianism,” “Sabellianism,” “Ebionism.” Today, they go by names such as: “universalism,” “heterodoxy,” “emergent church,” “insider movement,” “hyper grace,” “Chrislam.”’

      • Keys says

        Feb 4, 2016 at 5:12 pm

        Yes, Mortimer. I was thinking the same about Jesus saying to be wise as serpents. These foolish Christians think they are lovng their enemy by building this mosque for them. And when the muslims come across “the glazed foyer joining the two” on Good Friday to slap them on their cheeks for disturbing Friday prayers, will they turn the other check?

        Will they love them by tellng them the truth, contrary to the Koran, that Jesus really did die on the cross? Certainly, the muslims will honor the blasphemy next door. Why would any Christian from the 7th century onward have any reason to think otherwise?

    • Kepha says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 8:34 am

      Largely true, Wellington, but it’s the rubes in Flyover Country who believe the Bible, and hence are sympathetic when someone says Christians and Muslims do not worship the same God. The ones who are calling for divestment in Israel, saying that Islam and Christianity are basically the same, are the supposed innaleckchools and faux-siphticates of the Northeast Corridor.

    • Westman says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 10:23 am

      Wellington, a rather young but vibrant LDS (Mormons) church is a leader among, “the declaration that all religions have valid revelatory experiences”

      LDS First Presidency statement, Feb 15, 1978, excerpt:

      “The great religious leaders of the world such as Mohammed, Confucius, and the Reformers, as well as philosophers including Socrates, Plato, and others, received a portion of God’s light. Moral truths were given to them by God to enlighten whole nations and to bring a higher level of understanding to individuals.”

      This next quote from the article, “Latter-day Saint Perspective of Muhammad”, on lds..org, will leave you disoriented:

      “Yet examples of dialogue and cooperation abound, including visits of Muslim dignitaries at Church headquarters in Salt Lake City; Muslim use of Church canning facilities to produce halal (ritually clean) food products; Church humanitarian aid and disaster relief sent to predominantly Muslim areas including Jordan, Kosovo, and Turkey; academic agreements between Brigham Young University and various educational and governmental institutions in the Islamic world; the existence of the Muslim Student Association at BYU; and expanding collaboration between the Church and Islamic organizations to safeguard traditional family values worldwide. ”

      Halal and MSA promoted…dizzy yet?

    • quotha raven says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 12:16 pm

      To Wellington: Ditto, ditto and…ditto.

      Cheers!]

      quotha raven

  13. Champ says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 12:29 am

    This building project is part and parcel of the evil ‘Chrislam’ movement …

    “Chrislam Exposed: The Seductive Lie of a Common God between Christianity & Islam”

    https://youtu.be/DJd6kPimijw

    • Champ says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 12:36 am

      Awesome — must watch!!!

      • gravenimage says

        Feb 4, 2016 at 1:29 am

        Good to see a Muslim apostate who is now a Christian Pastor–who warns about Islam. Thanks, Champ.

        • Champ says

          Feb 4, 2016 at 2:22 am

          Indeed! You’re welcome, Graven.

      • Jay Boo says

        Feb 4, 2016 at 4:43 am

        Excellent video

        • Champ says

          Feb 4, 2016 at 3:42 pm

          Agreed, Jay Boo 🙂

  14. Truth Seeker says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 1:09 am

    Sweden moves very fast towards Islamisation. Thus Construction of Mosque Not Required. After Islamisation the existing Church they will convert into Mosque as did in many Muslim countries of today.

    • Pere LaChaise says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 10:36 am

      This reminds me of a situation I saw west of Detroit. A Bulgarian Orthodox church stands next to an Armenian Apostolic church, with a large lot in between them owned by neither church. For years neither congregation would pony up to purchase the intervening vacant lot. Eventuality it sold – to a Moslem congregation, who built a mosque larger than either the Bulgarian or Armenian church, probably easily with Saudi funds.
      The stupidity and niggardliness of both churches (full of persons who know well the threat of the Turk) provided the means by which Moslem interlopers could demonstrate their wit and financial means and visibly divide the two churches. The mosque architecturally rebukes the ecclesial division between Buzantine Orthodox and Armenian Apostolic churches, signifying the condemnation of those who confess Christ with their lips but will not do the work to establish His rule, which begins with unity of confession and communion.

  15. celticwarriorcanada says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 1:11 am

    We hear a lot of discussion about The Terrible Penalty For APOSTASY in islam ! But this article CLEARLY PRESENTS WHAT” APOSTASY”, AS Described in THE CHRISTIAN TRADITION , ACTUALLY Looks Like IN ACTION !!! Sorry ! I don’t mean to sound like one of those HAL LINDSEY TYPES . Hell NO ! But it really looks like the real SHIT TO ME ! 2 Thessalonians 2:3 New Testament ( all versions and manuscripts ) Thank you for this article Robert ! And my Prayer is that All Christians ( and ESPECIALLY CLERGY ) who are COMMITTED to the PRESERVATION and CONFESSION of HISTORIC CHRISTIAN DOCTRINE CREED AND TRADITION : STUDY AND READ THIS ARTICLE , WITH FEAR AND TREPIDATION !!!

  16. gravenimage says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 1:19 am

    Swedish church to collect funds to build mosque
    ……………………….

    It isn’t enough that Swedish taxpayers are having to pay for the importation of hundreds of thousands of Muslim invaders.

    Now this *church* is doing the same. That they are misusing the money of departed Christians who wanted to support the church is even more disgusting.

    A not insignificant point: notice in the picture that the Christian church is situated at a lower point than is the Mosque.

    Under Islam, no Christian church may be greater in height than a Mosque. It is impossible to know if these dhimmis actually knew that, whether they instinctively decided the Mosque should have prominence, or whether they supinely accepted the demands of the local Muslim “community” whom they are appeasing.

    Suicidal madness.

    And how long before Muslims demand that the church remove its crosses, due to their offensiveness?

    “Muslims Demand That ‘Offensive’ Crosses Be Removed… From CATHOLIC School”

    http://toprightnews.com/muslims-demand-that-offensive-crosses-be-removed-from-catholic-school/

  17. gravenimage says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 2:02 am

    I just found out something else, as well–the building on the left is to serve both Lutherans *and* Catholics–unclear whether two Churches are wedged into it or if they share the same space–while the Mosque is, of course, entirely Muslim.

    The land is owned by the Lutheran Church of Sweden, which rented part of the building to the local Catholic Church. So far, so good–but then they started working with the “Muslim Association”, It is unknown who first suggested the Church of Sweden build the Mohammedans a Mosque.

    “‘God’s House’ being built in suburban Stockholm”

    http://www.thelocal.se/20110302/32360

    From the article:

    “In Nacka we do not think that Muslims or immigrants should be seen as a threat, as suggested by Jimmie Åkesson. The idea is to demonstrate how people can get along together regardless of culture, language or faith.”

    Tell that to all the native Swedish rape victims…

    By the way, commenters are a combination of hopeless dhimmis and those who are at least somewhat Islamosavvy.

  18. Dan Jones says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 2:09 am

    How many rooms will they have for guns and explosives? and are they getting a good deal like obama did?

  19. خَليفة says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 2:10 am

    Sweden is the turkey that says “I’ll get in the oven if you promise not to eat me.”
    Islam is the hungry mad man who tells the turkey “if you insist” and we all know how that story ends.

  20. Westman says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 2:18 am

    The German Women’s celebration of Carnival starts on Feb 4th, today or tomorrow depending where you live. Things should be in full swing by Friday Night in Cologne, Germany. The Swedes should pay attention to see how well the cartoon image education works.

    Perhaps we will see some molesters stopped by women using the famous extended “Finnish Strongarm” method suggested by their government. Where is that famous “Just Say No” slogan when it’s needed?

    What are the odds that someday Swedes will avoid walking anywhere near this Mosque they are building?

  21. VIRGINIA G says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 3:34 am

    Wow, the level of insanity and stupidity from the Swedes is unbelievable. May they all suffer the same fate as all the Germans are now suffering. I am beyond disgust for the Swedes. How can so many political and religious leaders be so Damn ignorant and mentally unstable.
    Oh well, thank you for showing us all the level of insanity and ignorance of the Swedes. Mental illness is well and alive in the Swedes.
    So in closing I leave the Swedes with this : “Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. ”
    Your actions all have consequences. Don’t ever be fooled into thinking that your actions don’t have consequences.

  22. Wendy says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 3:35 am

    I am used to the indoctrination from most institutions (a religion of peace and all that). And of course the fawning behavior toward muslims and islam from churches in Europe is sadly becoming more common. What I still have trouble getting used to is the willful ignorance and blindness within so many Christian communities in the US.

    I came across an article on beliefnet.com (which evidently is a resource site for multiple faiths, including Islam). The author wrote an article about why Christians should not support Donald Trump, and in it he mentions Trump playing to IRRATIONAL beliefs about Islam and terrorism. But what is especially outrageous is this: “But to ban all Muslim immigration because of terrorism that emerges from misguided interpretations of Islam is like banning all Christian immigration because of attacks on abortion clinics or violent racist ideology emerging from incorrect interpretations of Christianity.”

    The author is a man by the name of Michael Austin, and he is Chair of Philosophy and Religion at Eastern Kentucky U. I realize this is not a Christian site, and given that it is “multi-faith” we can expect some of the coexist garbage and the moral equivalency. But what bothers me is that he writes this for a Christian audience, which to me suggests he identifies as a Christian himself. I find the ROP mantra especially repugnant in the traditional evangelical church (I am not surprised to find it in the watered-down be all things to all people type of churches). I suppose this Austin article is particularly annoying right now because I had to hear a sermon on the Beatitudes at my traditional evangelical church, and the associate pastor mentioned in the course of his sermon on the Beatitudes that we are commanded to welcome the Syrian “refugees.” Suffice it to say I have not calmed down enough yet to talk to the pastor and share some eye-opening info with him. But it just baffles me that comparative religion is not being taught in evangelical seminaries, or not being taught properly. Perhaps I should not be surprised by this. I don’t know.

    Anyway, back to this article by Michael Austin, I skim-read the comments section and he does seem to respond to some comments. Sadly, in the comments I saw, nobody called him out on the improper interpretation garbage. I did write a letter to the good prof, with a list of resources, but it is still sitting in my draft folder so I can re-read before sending. Here is the link, in case anybody wants to read it or provide educational commentary in response to the article:

    http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Articles/A-Christian-Case-Against-Donald-Trump.aspx?p=2

    • خَليفة says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 11:16 am

      I recall reading that Christian organizations helping to settle refugees were making millions of dollars, paid by us tax payers. My first thought was “how can they be so stupid?” But then turned to, “those greedy bastards” are collecting tax dollars, making a lot of money, and dumping the refugee trash onto another community. Short sighted greed. Win in the short run and not care of the future.

      http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/29/unholy-alliance-christian-charities-profit-1-billion-fed-program-resettle-refugees-40-percent-muslim/

  23. Charli Main says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 3:40 am

    No need to raise money for this mosque. Just apply to the Saudi Arabian embassy and the funds will be delivered next day. All in the interests of interfaith dialogue, of course.

  24. Veronika N says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 3:42 am

    May I ask WHY you continue to stay with Facebook?? Haven’t you been reading the new rules from that idiot Zuckerberg?? Why ‘not’ close your Facebook account instead of threatening to sue?! Zuckerberg is a lover of all muslims and has assure that treacherous moron Merkel that he will NOT allow anyone to post any negative comments about muslims on his beloved Facebook…
    Please do your research….you will eventually be banned permanently if YOU continue to complain or make any negative comments regarding the ‘peaceful’ muslim savages.

  25. Budvarakbar says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 4:01 am

    Make them build their own dam mosques – back in their own DAMN countries!!

    • Manuel Paleologus says

      Feb 4, 2016 at 8:40 am

      When they would allow us to build magnificent Churches in Mecca, Saudi and other predominantly muslim lands, then I would allow them to build mosques in the Christian lands.
      This is fair and balance.

  26. dragaozao says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 4:04 am

    I rather be atheist. I may have no faith but I’ll keep mu dignity.

  27. Carl Anders Breitholtz says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 4:26 am

    The Church of Sweden is lead by political parties (!) with a dominant leftist attitude and is siding with the Palestinian Arabs against Israel and is of course also siding with Islam. That is why the leadership of the Church of Sweden could decide to finance this Mosque, blessed by the bishop of Stockholm and the Archbishop.

    The religious cleansing of Christians (the majority of which belong to Orthodox and Eastern churches) in the Islam- & Communism-dominated countries does not bother these so called “Cristians”.

    The millions of oppressed and persecuted Christians in the Islam-dominated countries know by experience what Islam stands for. Although there are “islands” of Christian faith here and there within the Church of Sweden (seemingly not in Nacka though) the political leadership of the sleeping Church of Sweden has obviously “no oil in their lamps”.

  28. Jay Boo says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 4:50 am

    Any church in the West without a cross prominently displayed is nothing more than a passive feel-good social club.

    I will bet that they take down the cross on top of their actual completed church.

  29. Marty says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 4:58 am

    A disgusting combination of suicide & treason.

  30. Peter Hardie says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 6:04 am

    Cleariy that church and its leader are apostates in that they no longer share the apostolic faith of the apostles and saints. If the Swedish and other Scandinavian (so called) Evangelical Lutheran Churches continue down this path they stand condemned and are no part of the Chrsitian faith. Shame

  31. Folke Pax says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 6:05 am

    This co-project of the Church of Sweden, the local Nacka church, the Catholic church of Stockholm and the Muslim Organisation of Nacka is nothing new. All facts are there already in 2012, not much debated until 2014, but then again left to continue its work. The coming mosque will be attached to the church by a glass-and-steel construction, to faciliate interaction between its members and interreligious activities.
    I´ve discussed the grave problems concerning this religious mix-up with one of the pastors, and it boils down to the belief that Christians do not have the monopoly of truth about who God is, so let´s promote peace and understanding and do this.
    Here´s the true picture they expose:
    https://www.svenskakyrkan.se/Sve/Bilder/Bilder/gudshus_skiss.jpg
    The dominance of the mosque is quite obvious. And they refuse to understand, to study, the goals and meaning of islam, to dominate and subdue on a global scale. It´s in its core and roots.

  32. Hummer says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 6:33 am

    Dhimmihood in action. In time feeding the tiger will only make it more hungry then you will disappear.

  33. SK says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 6:46 am

    Masochism.
    They don’t know the story of Damascus cathedral, in the time of St John of Damascus during the muslim invasion, the islamization was very progressive, christians and muslim could pray together…oecumenism, indeed?
    Bull sh…today this church is the Omayyad Mosque!
    Like the “Aghia Sophia” church (basilica) which became a mosque after the conquest of Byzantium in 1453 by the Ottoman rulers.
    Poor swedes, stupid and naive dhimmis!

  34. Bob Smyth says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 6:56 am

    Presumably, the mosque will include a weapons storage area and rooms in which to sexually abuse young girls attending the church next door?

  35. TheDane says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 8:54 am

    You cannot serve both Jesus Christ and the Devil!! The Swedish Church represents anti-christ and the Devil! (same thing) If Luther could have heard and seen what is happening, and that so-called ‘churches’ are implementing pagan worshippers, he would have said they invite the Devil inside! (He would also spin in his grave!)
    Sweden can no longer be regarded as a Christian nation, and I know for a fact that Christian parents of smaller children are Afraid to tell them what they think of homosexuality and various other subjects, because the Swedish state could imprison the parents and they could remove their children, if the children tell stuff like that at school!

    To Swedish Christians – if there are any left: GET OUT of the Swedish, state-run Church! It is Satan’s dwelling, when they invite in the very folks (mohammedans) that slaughter the Peoples of the Book: The Jews and the Christians! I will myself get out of the church (also state-run) in my country, and I will state as reason the horrible thing that the Church now bless homosexual marriage!! That is in conflict with God’s Word and with human nature, and I will NO longer pay taxes for such horrible mocking of God!!!

  36. Diana Sitek says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 10:05 am

    THESE IDIOTS ARE FREE FROM THE BURDEN AND RESPONSIBILITY OF INTELLIGENCE, OR PERHAPS THEY ARE BRIBED FOR BEING TOOLS OF THE EU – AS THE CHURCHES ARE IN THE USA – PAID TO BRING IN THOSE WHO ARE PLANNING OUR DESTRUCTION.

    EITHER WAY, THEY ARE THE ENEMY OF FREEDOM AND DEMOCRACY AND SHOULD BE TREATED AS TRAITORS.

  37. Havoc says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 11:27 am

    More cost effective & easier to raise funds for the purpose of burning Mosques to the ground and driving the Muslim invaders from your country.

  38. Mark A says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 4:09 pm

    I think the “different picture of Sweden” that the ex-Bishop wants to present involves dhimmi status for his Church and for all non-Muslims.

  39. Gen Anna says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 6:02 pm

    Tears are coming from my eyes. My grandmother, an immigrant from Sweden was forever grateful for her adopted land, yet proud of her Swedish heritage to the day she died. She was a part of our nation that believed in hard work and personal responsibility. She was a devoted Christian and believed in loving and helping others -but she lived the Bible as the inerrant word of God.I have been to Sweden several times. There is no likeness between my grandmother and the Swedes of today. All of these comments are so true. I can no longer be proud of my Swedish heritage and am deeply hurt. Yes, like Germany, they have serious times ahead!

    • dumbledoresarmy says

      Feb 6, 2016 at 12:23 am

      Pray for Sweden.

      Pray for the incredibly foolish people at this particular church, that they will be delivered from Strong Delusion.

      Pray for the *removal* of the Dhimmi mindset from Swedish Christians.

      Pray for the *revival* of the Church in Sweden – pray for Lutherans, other Protestants, Catholics, *and* Orthodox, some of whom are Syrian Christian refugees from the Jihad. One of those Syrian Christians, in Sweden, *baptised* an apostate from Islam, Mona Walters. She came to Sweden as a Somali Muslim ‘refugee’… fleeing the ugly chaos that Islam naturally produces… and she was led, somehow, to investigate Christianity, and became a Christian, and married a Christian Swedish man. So.. pray for Mona Walters, and others like her (she is not the only one).

      Pray!

      Read Ezekiel 37, the vision of the Valley of Dry Bones, and pray! From now until Easter, pray for Sweden, for all your distant kin there, your cousins, and for all of Western Europe now invaded by hordes of violent and dangerous Muslim men. Pray!

  40. gravenimage says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 6:31 pm

    I just ran across something grimly fascinating.

    Here is a Mohammedan from the Muslim Foundation of Nacka asking whether it is Haram to have a Mosque so close to a ‘filthy Infidel’ church. Clearly, he is asking about this very project:

    “I am a representative of Bilal Foundation, Nacka, Sweden. This foundation has been established for the construction of the mosque. My question is regarding the construction of the mosque near the church. Actually we are going to build a mosque with name Bilal Mosque in a city of Sweden but the problem is that the place which is given by the authorities is just 20-25 feet away from the Church. Here about 3000 Muslims all around the world are living and have different opinion on this issue. Some people are saying that it is not allowed to build a mosque adjacent to the Church some are saying that because Church is already there so it will create bad effect on our children. One more information about this project that we are purchasing the land on the name of Bilal Foundation which was made for the construction of the mosque, it means that this mosque including land will be the property of the Muslim. I need written fatwa in Urdu and in English if possible with signature and stamp. Kindly help me in this regard and I will be thankful to you if you will reply me quickly because we must purchase land in coming two weeks. You can send me fatwa in PDF form via email.”

    http://darulifta-deoband.org/showuserview.do?function=answerView&all=en&id=35384

    He’s asking if the presence of the dhimmi Christians who appeasingly *built them a Mosque* will “create bad effect on our children”–that’s gratitude for you! Also note that the Mosque and the land will be “property of the Muslim”–these foolish Christians are really giving away the store here.

    By the way, the Deobandis–to whom this Mohammedan wrote asking for a Fatwa and to which this Muslim foundation no doubt belongs–are huge supporters of the imposition of Shari’ah law, as well as the Taliban and other Jihad terror groups, which does not bode well for these foolish Lutherans and Catholics.

  41. sidney penny says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 6:32 pm

    Have you heard of a Muslim in an Islamic majority country or with a large Muslim population (but not an Islamic country e.g. India) or any Muslim anywhere raise money to build a church next to a mosque or help raise money to build a church anywhere?

  42. Angemon says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 6:59 pm

    Swedish church to collect funds to build mosque

    Oh, come ON! The Saudis would gladly pay for it!

  43. Mary says

    Feb 4, 2016 at 10:06 pm

    What. The. Fudge.

    Uhm. I’m speechless.

  44. Baucent says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 2:21 am

    “Bengt Wadensjö said that Muslims and Christians should unite in the idea that God is one, and added that “Muslims are generally peaceful and honest”, and that the project would lead to that “world peace begins in Fisksätra”.

    This one made me laugh. Bengt is obviously a dreamer, who really isn’t sure what he believes but who will discover those muslim neighbors idea of peace is when he converts to Islam and the mosque takes over the church side of the project. Enjoy your journey into Dhimmitude Bengt!

  45. Herman says

    Feb 5, 2016 at 10:41 pm

    Collect some money for a church in saudi arabia… you idiots!!!

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