“Also, considering the state we now find ourselves in, we cannot go crying to the police about every little IS sympathiser we come across on the high street. The system wouldn’t be able to cope.” That should have set off warning alarms for her and others in Britain, but it didn’t, and won’t. And so Britain will go gently into its good night, happy that its new Islamic supremacist masters are such very decent fellows. Do you think Melissa Kite would have been this conflicted if the kind, helpful man at the tire shop had been a member of a counterjihad group? If he had been a member of, say, LibertyGB, she might not have gone to the police, since, after all, it isn’t illegal in Britain (yet) to belong to such a group, but it is highly unlikely she would have written about him so sympathetically, no matter how kind he had been.
“There’s a guy works down the tyre shop swears he’s Isis: But he had done me a great service and an incredible deal so I decided not to go to the police,” by Melissa Kite, The Spectator, February 27, 2016:
The last time I bought a set of tyres in south London I came away not quite knowing whether I had just been asked to become a jihadi bride.
Of course, it was only the merest suspicion. If I had had hard evidence I might have gone to the police. Or I might not. These days, one is likely to get done for a hate crime if one complains about a member of the opposite religion. If I had gone to the police what would I have said?
‘Excuse me, I’ve just had a set of tyres fitted to my Volvo by a man who tried to persuade me that IS fighters don’t deserve the bad press.’
Would I have sounded hysterical, or delusional, or just plain prejudiced? And what was my suspicion based on? Not that much.
I thought about it a lot but really all I had was the fact that, as I sat in the waiting room with the spaniel as my tyres were fitted, a very handsome young man sitting at his desk beneath a huge gold-framed excerpt from the Koran told me I shouldn’t listen to ‘the hype’ about Isis, who weren’t the barbarians they were made out to be. He knew this, he said, because he was just back from a top-secret mission in the Middle East, which he couldn’t elaborate on.
He said I should consider converting and marrying a man like him because I would find that my life really took off at that point. I gulped and nodded. I thought it unlikely that going under the veil would make me happy but he had me in a bind.
I was sitting in his waiting room and my car was up on his ramp with no wheels. I could hardly shout, ‘Now look here, matey! I’m a Roman Catholic. Jesus saves! And while we’re at it, the suffragettes chained themselves to railings for my right to vote, and to tell you to naff off!’
I had to nod and say please and thank you and ‘oh, now that is interesting!’ The whole situation was complicated by the fact that his men went to the most enormous trouble to fit me the best set of affordable quality tyres I have ever had on my Volvo. Truly, within seconds of driving away it was obvious that the car was driving better than ever. Much better than the way it drove after the last set was fitted, when the builder boyfriend took it to one of his mates under the arches who whacked some retreads on it.
Life is terribly confusing at times like these. I realised that I could have a guy who was on the side of the angels fit deathtrap tyres to my car and not even balance them properly.
Or a guy who was cheerleading for the worst terror group in the history of mankind could fit four stupendously good-value Continentals.
What’s a girl to do?
I drove around pondering what evidence I should take to the police and eventually concluded that I would go with my mum’s old maxim: you have to take people how you find them. The guy in the tyre shop had been courteous, kind, patient, honest, trustworthy, efficient, skilful and reliable. He had done me a great service and an incredible deal.
He might have been an IS fighter just arrived back from jihad. Or he might have been shooting his mouth off to impress me. It is, after all, entirely possible that our country is in such a weird mess that boasting you’re connected to Isis has become a chat-up line to which increasing numbers of men are resorting to impress the ladies.
Also, considering the state we now find ourselves in, we cannot go crying to the police about every little IS sympathiser we come across on the high street. The system wouldn’t be able to cope….
Tiredofstupid says
Of course, it was only the merest suspicion. If I had had hard evidence I might have gone to the police. Or I might not. These days, one is likely to get done for a hate crime if one complains about a member of the opposite religion
England is done. They have PC’ed themselves to death. When you have to worry about being charged with a “hate crime” if you report your suspicions of a possible terrorist to police it’s over for your country.
We’re not far behind here in the U.S. with people worried about being labeled racist if you report your suspicions but alt least it is not codified into law-Yet.
Charli Main says
Good point. You genuinely run the risk of being arrested by the British police for “racism”, if you make a complaint against a Muslim.
Just about any complaint or criticism of a Muslim can get you done ” for incitement to racial or religious harassment” and the Muslim vermin infesting Britain know it.
Of course, Muslims are exempt from the laws ” for incitement to racial or religious harassment ” and they are free to strut down British streets waving banners and chanting—-behead those who insult islam– sharia4UK—Islam will rule UK—kill infidels, while the police just stand by grinning and smiling and watching, eagle eyed for any vile anti- jihadist that appears on the scene.
Mirren10 says
Here’s some good news, Charli.
http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/rotherham-abuse-gang-leader-jailed-for-35-years/ar-BBq2uIq?ocid=spartandhp
I’d prefer the scumbags had been hung by their necks until they were dead, but still …
Charli Main says
Thanks M10. I wish I had the mathematical skills to work out what its going to cost the British taxpayer to keep this piece of Muslim shyte in the comfort that is his ” human rights”. Halal food, regular visits from the imam, Korans, et al.
Wonder what the price of a piece of rope is these days.??????
Mirren10 says
Alas, Charli, all too true.
ECAW says
Mirren10 – Can you please clarify what you would like to see regarding hanging?
Who and what would qualify for capital punishment…all rapists, Muslim rapists, Muslim gang rapists…or some other group?
Cheers.
Mirren10 says
I believe the death penalty should be reinstated for murder, rape, child abuse, and treason.
The penalty would apply to *anyone* who committed these crimes,.
Why do you ask ?
ECAW says
Because I was concerned at what I found on the LibertyGB Facebook site lately. They called for the hanging of the latest Muslim rape gang without being specific about what their wished for law would look like. You may ask why didn’t I ask them. The answer is that I was engaged in a “discussion” with them over a couple of other things at the time and the hanging thing only occured to me later.
But there was a connection. One of the other things was their proposing collective punishment of the perpetrators’ families by deportation. This seems to me to fly in the face of equal law for all. I just wrote on another thread here about the danger of making law partial by adding the subjective element of “hate motivation” to a crime, and I would be against partiality from our side as well.
Since you advocated hanging for the latest Rotherham gang I thought I would sound you out. I’m relieved that your outlook is even handed about it.
Mirren10 says
I’m a paid up member of LibertyGB, but I’ve never been on their Facebook page.
Since you didn’t ask them for specifics, I don’t think you should assume nefarious and partial intent ! 🙂
As far as collective punishment goes, I agree with you in principle, but I also think * all* muslims are potentially dangerous to us in the West and these rapists should be deported after completion of their sentences.
What makes you think the *families* are innocent ? I find it very hard to believe, given the scope, and length of time over which these crimes took place, that the families knew *nothing* about what their fathers, brothers, sons were doing. If it could be proved they were complicit, knew what was happening, and did *nothing*, then yes, I think the families should be deported.
Of course, that will never happen. Anymore than the government will do anything sensible and concrete about jihadists and their sympathisers. People *know* this, which goes some measure towards explaining the sentiments expressed by those on the LibertyGB Facebook page.
gravenimage says
While I agree with ECAW that automatic deportation of Muslim criminal’s families is unfair collective punishment, I do believe that the families, associates, and mosques of Muslim criminals should be *thoroughly* investigated, and criminally charged and deported if they prove to be involved in Jihad themselves.
ECAW says
Yep. IMHO (and also the other one) at this stage we should not be seeking religiously discriminatory laws but impartially enforcing our existing ones, which sometimes appear to be interpreted to the benefit of Muslims. Once, and if, our leaders realise we are at war with global jihad then all bets are off but until then I think we should recognise that our liberty depends on an impartial rule of law.
By the way, wanna laugh?
https://craigconsidinetcd.com/2016/02/27/video-a-christian-view-of-prophet-muhammad/
What’s the betting my comment disappears by breakfast time in Texas? If not, I hope it will at least prompt a response.
BC says
PC was invented in the good old USA and like anything yank is thought to be the latest kewl thing. Yes we are fools to adopt (not me I spit every time I hear it)) So before you run down the English think about who invented this stupid ‘philosophy’Thanks USA for another bad idea.
Jay Boo says
Europe gave a Muslim refugee named Ayatollah Khomeini political asylum.
Polk1970 says
THEY SURE DID!
Liberal France is responsible,in part,for nurturing Khomeini’s War on the Shah as if they were watering a garden,a very poisonious garden indeed.
Carolyne says
Yes, the Ayatollah Khomeini was living in France before the Iranian revolution. However, it was Jimmy Carter who forced the Shah to leave Iran “Temporarily” and told him he supported him “1000” percent. The Shah believed him and left, never to return. Khomeini’s return was facilitated and the West was responsible Give credit where credit is due. Jimmy Carter is responsible for the chaos in the Middle East.
Angry Aussie says
I’m surprised they didn’t ‘accidentally’ cut her brake lines while smiling like bearded Cheshire Cats.
KrazyKafir says
I believe she got the good deal because she was a kafir woman (what a prize) and she didn’t blink when he was speaking up ISIS. The muslim was gambling on an investment. Had it been me, I would have been charged full price.
Polk1970 says
She better have that car checked ,completely
You never know what may be embedded
Carolyne says
So this woman’s price to betray her country is a good deal on a set of tires? Disgusting.
Jack Diamond says
I see a new Bridget Jones movie here. Not a retread either. Shakespearean. “My new tires! My Kingdom for new tires!” or “How I Married ISIS & Other Silly Things I Do” or “Bridget Jones & the Sexy Terrorist, What to Do? What to Do?” or “The End of Civilization but My Car Ran Good” or “Oops, Bridget Jones Loses Western Civilization (or, who cares who he’s raped & murdered, it’s the Volvo That Matters, and besides I rather Fancy a Bad Boy…)”
Britain, where men now pick up women by claiming they are in ISIS.
Melissa go fly a Kite (while you can).
mortimer says
Agree with Carolyne.
(“So this woman’s price to betray her country is a good deal on a set of tires?”)
That really sums this up.
quotha raven says
Mortimer et al – I think we’ve enough evidence to conclude with some certainty that Melissa Kite did NOT intend this piece as satire, non? Gravenimage instructively and wittily provided several delicious examples of the sorts of subjects Ms Kite habitually addresses with journalistic rigor, The article in question would be too much of an anomaly in her body of work if it’s interpreted (no matter how tempting) as satirical. I just don’t think the elevator reaches the top.
Cheers!
quotha raven
mortimer says
A cultural Marxist shows solidarity with the destroyers of European civilization and helps the terrorist evade capture by police.
How surprising!
Ten will come back and rape her and her acquaintance as their supremacist way of saying ‘thanks, you dirty, slutty kafir whores’.
ECAW says
Yeah, I remember my mum telling me about a nice young chap in her local butcher’s shop in 1940 who told her that the Nazis weren’t that bad – he’d been on a secret mission to Germany and had inside knowledge. Naturally, she didn’t go to the police about it because you don’t want to make a fuss do you, and he gave her a couple of bangers over her ration.
No, actually she would have had the basic common sense and patriotism to do the obvious thing. How can we expect to come out of the current war in one piece when most of the population, and especially the educated classes – you know, journalists, academics, that sort of thing – are so wilfully stupid as to not know their duty and then to share it with the world?
Jan Aage Jeppesen says
Your mum was right. The Nazis weren’t that bad in 1940, at least not as bad as the Stalin regime which had killed far more innocent people at this time. Had the butcher been on a secret mission to the USSR then he should have been reported to the police.
Why shouldn’t your mom have a positive impression of Nazis when the British leaders thought that the Nazi regime was “absolutely fantastic”, according to Lord Halifax after a visit in 1937 where he met Hitler and the top Nazi leaders.
gravenimage says
Jan Aage Jeppesen wrote:
Your mum was right. The Nazis weren’t that bad in 1940…
……………………..
Oh, great–it’s this apologist for evil back again…
Rufolino says
And in 1938 Adolf Hitler was Time Magazine’s “Man of the Year”.
Wellington says
The Nazis weren’t that bad in 1940? Oh Jesus Christ.
By 1940 the Nazis had already set up many concentration camps (the first of them went up just months after Hitler’s accession to power in January of 1933), there was no freedom of the press whatsoever, all political parties were banned except the Nazi Party, Poland had been ravaged and dissected and three of the eventual five solutions for Jews had already been implemented——1) expulsion from some 90% of Germany; 2) “encouragement” for Jews to emigrate from Germany with possessions confined to one suitcase; and 3) ghettoization of Polish Jews who were put on a diet of something like 200 calories per day which amounted to slow starvation (and anyone caught smuggling food into these ghettoes was summarily executed).
And much more barbaric rot along these lines. And you think the Nazis weren’t that bad in 1940? And you seek to build these bastards up by way of comparing them to what that invidious control freak Stalin had done by that time?
My God man, how could you have lived so long and know so little? Helps to explain though why fools aplenty to this very day continue to make excuses for the oldest totalitarian evil in man’s history——-Islam. After all, if one is prepared to assert that the Nazis in 1940 “weren’t that bad,” then any exculpation of evil is possible. Done here and done here with complete disgust.
DBM says
Wellington, You forgot that by 1940 Hitler had committed genocide of his own people. He had by this time rid the country of mentally ill people, the chronically ill, cripples, mentally retarded, handicapped, and the old infirm people. In other words everyone he judged to be inferior or a drain on the gov’t. It was the Holocaust before the Holocaust.
Wellington says
Well, DBM, I wasn’t trying to be exhaustively complete, as my sentence, “And much more barbaric rot along these lines.” indicates, but thanks for the addendum nonetheless.
Champ ✞ says
Wellington wrote:
“Oh Jesus Christ.”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Wellington, please don’t use my Lord’s name in vain …
And since this is Jihad Watch how about this option: “Oh prophet muhammad”. I don’t mind if you take THAT GUYS name in vain. Thank you!
Jan Aage Jeppesen says
Thanks to Wellington for comment.
From my short comment you seem to imply that I do not consider the Nazi ideology evil in the extreme. Actually I do, but compared to Marxism-Leninism the latter surpass the first both in evil and as a threat to Western civilization.
One way to measure evil is the number of innocent people killed purely for ideological reasons.
As you surely will not claim, against all historical facts, that the Nazi and fascist ideologies resulted in more killings than the ideology of Marxism-Leninism, then logically the latter is more evil than the former.
Unless of course you actually qualify evil in a different way than I do. Do you?
The second element I think should be taken into consideration when comparing two evils is the potential danger it pose to democratic Western civilization and the dignity of man.
At one point in 1940 Winston Churchill argued that Nazism and Hitler were not only as evil as Stalinism, but a far greater threat to the West. Citing Churchill’s speech of June 18, 1940, that should England fall as France had, “the whole world, including the United States … will sink into the abyss of a New Dark Age.”
Historian John Lukacs wrote in 2006:
“Churchill understood something that not many people understand even now. The greatest threat to western civilization was not Communism. It was National Socialism. The greatest and most dynamic power in the world was not Soviet Russia. It was the Third Reich of Germany. The greatest revolutionary leader of the twentieth century was not Lenin or Stalin. It was Hitler.”
This, surely, is debatable. For Hitler never remotely represented the strategic threat to the U. S. Homeland as Communism did and do. In U.S. cultural and intellectual circles, communism had immense appeal. The Roosevelt administration was honeycombed with Soviet spies, Communists and collaborators.
As an ideology, Nazism was handicapped by the narrowness of its appeal. It was not even an ideology of white supremacy – Hitler was prepared to turn Slavs into serfs – but of “Aryan” supremacy. Communism appealed to peoples of all colors and continents who wished to throw off the yoke of colonialism and bring an end to European domination. It offered all mankind a vision of paradise on earth. (Not unlike Islamism). Outside of Great Britain, Hitler was among the last unabashed admirers of the British Empire.
In Hollywood, communism made such inroads by the late-1930s that anti-Communist films could not be made and pro-Soviet films were routinely turned out. Hitler’s rabid Jew hatred meant Nazism was dead on arrival. Compared to the Communist Party and its fellow travelers the German-American Bund and Silver Shirts were an insignificant force – regularly thrown out of America First rallies. To Americans, Hitler and Mussolini were figures of Chaplinesque ridicule. Lenin, Stalin and Trotsky all had acolytes and admirers in government, in the press, and on the faculties and within the student bodies of America`s elite colleges and universities.
As Yale scholar and historian Bruce Russett wrote: “Nazism as an ideology was almost certainly less dangerous to the United States than is Communism. Marxism-Leninism has a worldwide appeal; Nazism lacks much palatability to non-Aryan tastes.”
Moreover, while Hitler believed in the superiority and salvific power of Nazi ideology for Germany, he did not believe in imposing it or exporting it to the West.
Stalin believed in ruthlessly imposing communism on all subject lands and people. “This war is not as in the past,” Stalin explained to Yugoslav Communist leader Milovan Djilas in 1945, “whoever occupies a territory also imposes his own social system. … It cannot be otherwise.”
Lukacs is right that Hitler, like Lenin, was both revolutionary and ruler, architect and dictator of the state he created. But no one in Hitler’s entourage could sustain his ideology. Like Fascism, Nazism could not long survive the death of the messiah. But the Soviet state was built to last. It was a far more formidable regime, for it was rooted in something more enduring than the charisma of a fanatic but mortal man.
Do you agree with my premises then you must also agree with my conclusion – that Communism is a much greater evil than Nazism and Fascism.
Wellington says
Jan Aage Jeppesen: I reject your conclusion that “Communism is a much greater evil than Nazism and Fascism.” They’re pretty much equally evil and here’s why: both single out groups of human beings for second-class status or death and both destroy liberty, the only real difference is which grouping of human beings is designated for second-class status or death. Nazism does it with ethnic groups and Marxism does it with socio-economic groups (the upper and middle classes). Islam, btw, should be ranked with Nazism and Marxism because it too crushes liberty and singles out yet another group of human beings for second-class status or death——non-Muslims.
So, the only real difference between these three iniquities is the “grouping issue.” If you wish to designate one more evil than another, go ahead, though I would assert that of these there malevolencies the best disguised of the three is Islam, hiding behind its religious veil as it does, and thus possibly for this reason it is the most menacing of them all. But that all three are evil I have no doubt.
Wellington says
Out of respect for you, Champ, (and other Christians) I won’t use your Lord’s name in vain ever again on this site. You have my word on it. I meant no disrespect, just an expression I’ve used for years, but I can see how a Christian would be upset by the way I wrote and I will never do it again here at JW.
BTW, I never refer to the “Prophet Mohammed” as so many do, but I often refer to the “Profiteer Mohammed.” Much more accurate I think and while I don’t want to upset Christians I don’t mind at all upsetting Muslims since they deserve to be upset, though it is certainly not hard to do since Muzzies adhere to the Religion of Perpetual Outrage.
Hope you and yours are doing well. Now, back to the fight.
Champ says
Thank you, dear Wellington! I greatly appreciate your respecting my request, and thank you for your kind words, too. And yes — that is a *much* better option for evil muhammad 🙂
Champ says
You’re just another lost cause serving an evil cause: islam!
Polk1970 says
Your name appears to be Scandanavian, and as such,,based on your comment ,one can only conclude that youR ancestors were likey Nazi 5th Columnist COLLABORATORS
mortimer says
Disagree with Polk. No one under occupation can remain pure and alive. Deception and collaboration kept them alive. Denmark had the most train wrecks of any country occupied by Hitler. The Danes were told by their government in exile to stop the sabotage because deliverance would come soon. Few Danes collaborated.
SpiritOf1683 says
Back in 1934, the Daily Mail told us that Britain needed a leader like Hitler or Mussolini.
Gail Griffin says
I just had the experience with a jovial British man the other day who saw Muslims as lovely people and Christians do bad things too. Willful blindness.
Kevin Walker says
So Melissa Kite decided not to report an islamic state sympathizer (or operative) to the police because he installed a nice set of tires on her Volvo, according to her own confession she may even consider converting to pisslam & marry him, ‘just for a nice set of tires on her car’.
She’s not above a whore who would anything for a puff of cocaine.
Polk1970 says
Wonder if he told her about FGM??
Infidel Task Force says
“He knew this, he said, because he was just back from a top-secret mission in the Middle East, which he couldn’t elaborate on.”
Riiiiiiigghht….top secret mission. She was being played, and I think she knew it.
Polk1970 says
However he could be part of a JIHADIST CELL in UK
Polk1970 says
And the tire shop could be a Terrorist Front and Terror Money Laundering operation.
Why else the low prices?
Karen says
I love a happy ending; four new tires, and at such a good price too. Yeah, sorry about England, but, first things first.
At first I thought this sounded like a Bridgett Jones sequel, but Bridgett would have been a lot gutsiest.
mortimer says
Mistaking good manners with good morals is something many mannerly people have done. Many of those who met Hitler or Stalin or Mao Zedung were impressed by their good manners. All three were conscienceless mass killers. Many were impressed by Dr. Joseph Mengele’s courtly manners as he prepared his victims for medical experiments that took their lives.
Melissa Kite and people like her fail to understand that ‘niceness’ has nothing to do with the threat under our noses. ‘Niceness’ is just a distraction. The MORAL issue is that Nazis believed in the MASTER RACE THEORY and Muslim believe in the MASTER RELIGION THEORY. Supremacists feel they have a right to hurt ‘others’ because they have SPECIAL STATUS.
All Muslim supremacists must be reported because it is only the intelligence agencies that can determine whether a supremacist is involved in something or not…and even they are not sure sometimes with all the information they have that we cannot get.
REPORT THEM ALL…EVERY TIME YOU SEE OR HEAR SOMETHING…it may save lives.
Cheryl says
Bravo
Mirren10 says
Well said, Mortimer.
I would go further, though. Supposing the story to be true, and she’s not making it up under the delusion she’s being cute and charming,; she’s an amoral, stupid, and *traitorous* slag.
gravenimage says
Good point, Mortimer. All too many clueless fools have been taken in this way.
Michael Warden says
“Smile at their faces, curse them in your hearts.”
mortimer says
Abu Darda, a close companion of Muhammad said: “Let us smile to the faces of some people while our hearts curse them.” He learned this duplicity from Mohammed.
Without a knowledge of the taqiyya doctrine, the kafir doctrine and the jihad doctrine, Westerners are dupes for Muslim trickery and duplicity.
Melissa Kite would do well to start by reading Robert Spencer’s books and those of former jihadists. They will teach her how to spot a jihadist.
Thomas Faddis says
This HAS to be satire,lol! NO HUMAN BEING in western civilization is THAT stupid or brainwashed and still walking the streets! That retarded of a mentality legally requires institutionalization, doesn’t it?!!!
gravenimage says
Nope–follow the link. A real story in a major newspaper.
sally says
This is a normal, realistic British girl working in an industry freelance in which she has to sell her stories to pay her rent and hoping people can read between the lines. Which Brits can do, yanks not so much. I have no doubt she’s a LibertyGB follower (there’s millions out there). Good for her. She’s wide awake, watching, knowing and informing
ECAW says
What nonsense, and insulting nonsense to Americans. I am British and I don’t see a hidden message between the lines any more than I think there are millions of Liberty GB supporters – which there aren’t
sally says
Hardly insulting unless you’re apt to be insulted and as far as I’m concerned that’s for Muslims. I carry US and UK passports and anyone who can’t see the delightful irony in her piece is most likely susceptible to taqqiya so I suggest you go catch up on some good old 70s telly and remind yourself of your heritage. Otherwise, I confused libertygb with Britian Frist. Funny,the latter never get any play but there’s they are with 1.4m faceache supporters
ECAW says
Sally – Thanks for the tip. I reread the article and once again failed to see the delightful irony so will now turn my anti-taqqiya shield up to full strength.
I agree with you about journalists having to churn out their stuff to pay the rent. I would add that only a few at the top of the pile have the luxury of keeping their integrity. There was something similar in the Spectator recently by Jeremy Clarke which might well have inspired Melissa’s effort. Clarke let his (rather good) mechanic drone on for an hour about the New World Order, Illuminati, Lizards etc. then betrayed him for the fee. It’s no wonder some people talk about the presstitute. The main difference was that there were no security implications. Since she asked “What’s a girl to do?” surely the only honourable journalistic approach would have been to keep quiet for the sake of her tyres, hold him up to ridicule in front of an audience of which he is unlikely to be a part for the fee, and then quietly inform MI5 and let them sort out the facts.
You shouldn’t be surprised that Britain First, a particularly nasty bunch, get little publicity compared to their facebook profile. They are well known for using deceitful means to boost their facebook likes, such as when a popular actress died and they sympathised, causing many people to like them, unaware what they were actually liking.
You will find them in the Guardian now and then whenever they need a wicked fairy to add to the pantomime. They dropped the EDL as soon as BF arrived with their smart Mosleyite type uniforms and mosque invasion stunts.
Myxlplik says
True, in so many words she did say, that this interpretation of Islam is essentially as normative as getting some nice tires. Read between the lines, it’s all very 1984.
She goes on to speculate that he’s nice, and cute though…. which was odd, but perhaps a self defense mechanism, due to people getting tossed into prison, and persecuted for talking plainly about Islam.
Bernadet says
I’m inclined to believe THAT. She may have had something similar, but in the end she needs to sell a story. If any of this is true, then local police will be picking that guy up.
The saddest part is that her complicitness is the norm, lest this piece be labeled “Islamofauxbic” and not get published at all.
gravenimage says
sally wrote:
This is a normal, realistic British girl working in an industry freelance in which she has to sell her stories to pay her rent and hoping people can read between the lines. Which Brits can do, yanks not so much.
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Really? So you are saying that things are *so* bad in Britain that no one is allowed to say anything bad even about *ISIS*?
And, if this were true, that it means that Britons are ever so more sophisticated than those crude and stupid Yanks.
Good grief.
But Melissa Kite’s own newspaper cited above, the Spectator, published this story:
“Isis takes its British schoolgirl jihadis seriously. Why don’t we?”
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2015/10/isis-takes-its-british-schoolgirl-jihadis-seriously-why-dont-we/
This story is, in fact, about exactly what Melissa Kite was being so jokey and coy about–British Jihadi brides decamping to the Islamic State. So the idea that she could never sell a story critical of ISIS to her paper simply does not hold water.
She has also written for the Telegraph and the Daily Mail, both of which have occasionally written negatively of ISIS.
And what would you have thought of such a plain speaker as Winston Churchill? I suppose it was the fact that he was half American that made him so unsophisticated as to speak out openly against Hitler…
And what must you think of Robert Spencer, crude American that he is?
More:
I have no doubt she’s a LibertyGB follower (there’s millions out there). Good for her. She’s wide awake, watching, knowing and informing
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What could *possibly* lead you to believe that Melissa Kite is a member of LibertyGB and a secret Anti-Jihadist?
Her work usually deals with such pressing subjects as how irksome it is to be put on hold, how annoying pub quizzes are, and how much she hates having to observe the speed limit.
If she is indeed hiding her intense concern about violent Jihad, all I can say is that she is doing a bang-up job of it. I suppose it’s because I’m a Yank myself–albeit with a English mother–that this is eluding me…
gravenimage says
That should have been, “an English mother”.
Myxlplik says
This reminds me of a statement from Ryan Crocker from a video on Vice News (Fighting ISIS),on the amount of sympathetic supportive chatter from Western Muslims to areas in the Islamic World affiliated with ISIS. My take on the quote was that the sheer volume indicated that it was essentially something associated with our demography now. It’s basically beyond policing.
Myxlplik says
I think what this woman has noticed is the same thing Ryan has, which is “radical” Islam such as espoused by ISIS is really quite as normative as getting some new tires.
They are just one small, Hadith width away from making the next logical step…. this might, have something to do with the normative nature of Islam.
Huck Folder says
“There is only ONE ‘islam’!”
Tayyip Erdogan Armenicide
Mr Tea to his two friends.
jayell says
I quote…..
“The guy in the tyre shop had been courteous, kind, patient, honest, trustworthy, efficient, skilful and reliable. He had done me a great service and an incredible deal….”
Well all those ‘nice guys’ who blew up trains and buses, etc. were no doubt “courteous, kind, patient, honest, trustworthy, efficient, skilful and reliable…” – on the face of it. It’s all part of their ‘taqqyia’ (lies, deception) which gullible idiots will fall for and, as we know from, they have a not-so-hidden agenda when it comes to trying it on with the opposite (kuffar) gender (there’s a revolting story in the London Times today about the ringleader of the one of the Rotherham paedophile sex gangs – read it, it will make you want to throw up).
“He had done me a great service and an incredible deal…..” What’s wrong with this stupid woman? He wants to earn a living? He’s supposed to do that!
“He might have been an IS fighter just arrived back from jihad. Or he might have been shooting his mouth off to impress me……”
So, Ms Kite, my dear, what cues did you give him in your conversation and body language, etc., to give him the impression that all that outrageous verbal garbage was somehow impressive to you?
“…It is, after all, entirely possible that our country is in such a weird mess that boasting you’re connected to Isis has become a chat-up line to which increasing numbers of men are resorting to impress the ladies….”
With clearly gullible and unprincipled persons such as Ms Kite around, yes, that isn’t surprising.
Michael Warden says
Reminds me of the Italian mother in the 1940s gangster films. Her Mafia son has just been arrested : ” He’s a gooda boy”..
jayell says
And quite a few dear old ladies in East End pubs thought the Kray twins were ‘good boys’ for buying them a gin and tonic or two on their 80th birthday booze-ups – or so my 90-year-old neighbour (from the East End) tells me. So if Ms. Kite is doing a good impression of being a bit soft in the head at her present age (which I don’t think is anything like 80), what will she be doing when she’s drawing her pension? Driving into the Post Office with explosives strapped to her mobility scooter because a ‘nice helpful young man’ from the battery shop said it would be nice to give the locals a firework display like he’d been putting on for his chums in the middle east?
11B40 says
Greetings:
The Kuffarress must feel herself subdued.
Polk1970 says
Sure be interesting how her referred to boyfriend reacted when she came home with this story
Angemon says
Is that a fact? How many people were accused of hate crimes for complaining about, let’s say, a Protestant Christian or a Catholic Christian? Or a Buddhist? Or a Hindu? Or a Sikh? No, Miss Kite, you mean one is likely to be accused of a hate crime if one complains about a muslim.
Indeed, what was your suspicion based on? Either you take his words as being true and risk being called a bigoted islamophobe for reporting what you perceived as a clear, present danger or you go with the soft bigotry of low expectations and assume he’s lying.
Clearly, whistle past the graveyard…
That’s true. How about reporting suspicious behaviour and letting the police figure it out?
And you think that’s normal? Dayum…
Mirren10 says
”If he had been a member of, say, LibertyGB, she might not have gone to the police, since, after all, it isn’t illegal in Britain (yet) to belong to such a group … ”
Not yet, is the mot juste, Robert.
http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/647539/Ukip-UK-Independence-Party-school-police-called-website
As for this stupid and amoral bint, she’s a product of our wonderful ‘education’ system. No morals, no values, nothing. She obviously thinks she’s being cute and clever. Vomit.
Noel Jealous says
Mirren 10, thanks for the link about UKIP. I’ve spread it around.
Michael Warden says
Story also at :
http://www.britainfirst.org/outrage-as-school-calls-police-after-pupil-looks-at-ukip-website-in-class/
British Sharia compliant justice :
http://www.britainfirst.org/britain-first-launches-high-court-challenge-to-luton-police-bail-conditions/
Mirren10 says
Noel, please also consider writing to the school, and Hampshire police.
For evil to triumph etc, etc.
mccode says
“boasting you’re connected to Isis has become a chat-up line to which increasing numbers of men are resorting to impress the ladies.”
Honey, if you are impressed with that line, you are one delusional idiot.
Polk1970 says
bet he didn’t tell her about FGM
revereridesagain says
Has her car repaired at a shop with “a huge gold-framed excerpt from the Koran” hanging on the wall. No one who is stupid enough to do that in the first place is likely to blow the whistle on the “very handsome young man” behind the desk. Who boasts of having just come back from a “top secret mission in the Middle East”. Doing what, changing tires on Isis’ Toyota Land Cruisers?
No excuses. None. D.U.B.M., dumb.
But then again, she did manage to ID — to the entire readership of The Spectator, no less — said handsome young man as “cheerleading for the worst terror group in the history of mankind” and note that his feeling free to use ISIS as chat-up line is one sign that the country is “in a weird mess”. And if the police should wish to have a few words with the ISIS wannabe, that “huge gold-framed excerpt” from the Wholey Krayon should make him real easy to find. Plus perhaps a few of his other customers will be having second thoughts.
Whatever the case, I bet she won’t be going back to that garage again.
gravenimage says
revereridesagain wrote:
Whatever the case, I bet she won’t be going back to that garage again.
……………………….
Alas, I wouldn’t count on that. After all, she lauded the Jihadi for having been courteous, “kind, patient, honest, trustworthy, efficient, skilful and reliable”, and having provided “a great service and an incredible deal”.
In fact, it sounds like she’d be happy to continue patronizing them.
Lee says
She came close to getting stoned and I’m not talking about the weed.
Champ says
The last time I bought a set of tyres in south London I came away not quite knowing whether I had just been asked to become a jihadi bride.
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So, she’s *smitten* by the “handsome” guy behind the counter, eh? She as much as says so in the first line of her essay.
Wow, is this how IS lure western women? And some women that would otherwise know better are falling for it, wow!
Michael Warden says
It is an unfortunate fact that some women like a bit of foreign “rough”.
gravenimage says
Yeah–the same ones who write to murderers on death row.
Pong says
I do understand the difference between a writer and a jurnalist, but her English causes a toothache. Judging from an expected level, she is illiterate.
rolf wittwer says
Oh – yeah – white, blond haired woman and exotic dark eyes looking strong guy!
Extremely sweet, friendly, polite guy towards a “Quffar” and so on, sounds fishy; especially under a goldframed quran excerpt – did she understand it at all? That Garage looking probably more as a hidden mosque and/or a IS-recruitment- or other “center”..
What unstoppable stupid naivety of such women sometimes!
Keith says
Slightly off target, sorry guys, but just watching the BBC 10pm news and seen a report that a Hampshire school has called the police over a website accessed by one of its pupils. The website they were most concerned with was the UKIP site, he also accessed the English Defence League website.
The police were more interested in the child accessing the UKIP site.
gravenimage says
*Yeash*.
Mirren10 says
I have sent the school, and the police, a *stinging* email, with copies to my solicitor, my MP, Cameron, and May.
I’m now going to follow these up with *proper* letters. May I suggest you, and any other Brits here, do the same ? This is the behavior of the Stasi/KGB/Gestapo. Hampshire Police have gone *way* beyond their remit. They should have charged the school with wasting police time.
DBM says
The brits deserve what is happening to them. Hard to believe that a country who once could brag that the sun never set on the British Empire has been reduced to a bunch of sniveling sissies.
Flip says
“What’s a girl to do?”
How about get your stupid car tyre deal – which is not really the point you’re going on about – and THEN report the subhumans.
And then accept the fact that you didn’t get the fee for your copy when you knew that’s they wanted.
– repulsive story.
gravenimageg says
“There’s a guy works down the tyre shop swears he’s Isis: But he had done me a great service and an incredible deal so I decided not to go to the police”
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Now we know Melissa Kite’s price–a good deal on a set of tires.
Her cutesy title for this piece was “My tyre-fitter tried to recruit me as a jihadi bride”.
More:
The last time I bought a set of tyres in south London I came away not quite knowing whether I had just been asked to become a jihadi bride.
Of course, it was only the merest suspicion. If I had had hard evidence I might have gone to the police. Or I might not. These days, one is likely to get done for a hate crime if one complains about a member of the opposite religion…
………………………………
And doesn’t *this* alarm Ms. Kite? I guess not–it’s the “new normal” in Britain these days…
More:
“Also, considering the state we now find ourselves in, we cannot go crying to the police about every little IS sympathiser we come across on the high street. The system wouldn’t be able to cope.” That should have set off warning alarms for her and others in Britain, but it didn’t, and won’t.
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“Every little IS sympathiser”? Good God. Besides, from what she said, it sounds as though he is actually trying to recruit Jihadi brides–this goes way beyond sympathizing.
It looks like Melissa Kite mostly writes fluffy puff pieces for the Spectator–embarrassing dating stories, approaching forty, old-fashioned villages–but you will be glad to know that she does take some things seriously.
Unfortunately, this is the only thing she considers truly evil:
“Victorian south London plumbing is pure evil”
http://www.spectator.co.uk/2016/02/real-life-173/
Richard Paulsen says
As innocent as in Sweden where the Supreme Court will discuss if Mahr, i.e.sharia law and laws ruling in Iran about marriage can be introduced in the country.
http://www.dagensjuridik.se/2016/02/sharia-i-svensk-domstol-hd-provar-om-svensk-eller-iransk-lag-ska-galla-aktenskapskontrakt
medusa says
What a flippant, morally relativistic quizzling. “I could hardly shout, “Now look here, matey!…” Why ever not?
Champ says
I hate to state this, but I think a sick, disgusting and dangerous *romance* is in bloom between these two (ew!). Pretty soon she’ll be going back to get her ‘tires rotated’ and anything else she can think of just to see the “handsome guy behind the desk” …makes me sick to state this, but she strikes me as a very gullible woman. And when ISIS is in the picture this makes her gullible AND dangerous, and careless toward the safety and security of others. What a dumb broad …
gravenimage says
EW! Champ, I’ll never be able to hear about someone getting their “tires rotated” in the same way ever again…
Champ says
LOL!!! 😀 sorry about that …
Carolyne says
She should have looked more closely. He likely had a hairy back.
anthony says
i can bet that this moslem quoted her all the nice meccan suras and kind of leave out the latter medinan suras and all the nice hadits ( like women in hell, etc ). This ignorant lady should get a copy of his qoran and read it herself. In order to understand islam, it’s a must to read it ourselves.
gravenimage says
Anthony, this Muslim admitted he was recruiting brides *for ISIS*, so I doubt he could have sounded all that plausibly “moderate”.
Fab Feringhee says
You want to see a good example of genetic degradation look at England. From world power to greasy drunken trollop in 100 years. Good god people wtf has happened to you? Give me a world of genetically perfect German beauties any day compared to this mongrel disaster.
gravenimage says
Fab Feringhee wrote:
You want to see a good example of genetic degradation look at England. From world power to greasy drunken trollop in 100 years. Good god people wtf has happened to you? Give me a world of genetically perfect German beauties any day compared to this mongrel disaster.
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Good God, what rot.
This has nothing to do with “genetic degradation”–most Britons are little different genetically than they were a hundred years ago. Certainly, Melissa KIte looks like an apple-cheeked English girl.
As for Germany, hasn’t the absurd Aryan supremacist Fab Feringhee noticed how clueless all too many Germans are when it comes to understanding the Jihad threat, as well?
Here are some lovely lasses holding a “Welcome Refugees” sign in a German transit center:
http://40.media.tumblr.com/a9e5d83b66de5f18db579b6468ede947/tumblr_nu8vbvBfSM1twu61ho6_1280.jpg
They all look like beautiful native German girls–but they are as ignorant as the British “mongrel” in the story above.
And here are the young women of the “Refugees Welcome” Team–all pretty German natural blondes.
http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/03429/refugees-welcome-c_3429372b.jpg
This is about denial and witless political correctness–not about genetics.
Charli Main says
Germans are genetically white skinned Indians. That’s why they are “genetically” classed as INDO-EUROPEANS.
People can live in a fantasy world of their own creation, but its all in their genes.
Mo says
@ Fab Feringhee
“You want to see a good example of genetic degradation look at England. From world power to greasy drunken trollop in 100 years. Good god people wtf has happened to you? Give me a world of genetically perfect German beauties any day compared to this mongrel disaster.”
Anything to say on Islam? Or just nonsense about “genetic degradation”?
Sid Sunreader says
As Melissa types, Tracy is being raped. As Melissa flirts with a dishy Muslim, Aisha is having her clitoris cut off. As Melissa hangs out with her Spectator chums in a swanky wine bar, Mohammed The Moderate is plotting to blow up a concert hall.
When the brown stuff hits the fan, Melissa will move to a nice cottage on the coast, carry on regardless, file her copy and tell her new progressive chums that she always had doubts about that chap in the tyre shop back in south London. She remembers writing about her experiences in The Spectator. “But it was satire, darling. They just didn’t get it”.
Pumbar says
I drift onto this site when I’m looking for information or I’m deflated after having to deal with another mussie numptie on social media. It’s often comforting to know youre not alone in facing this issue.
Then you come across a thread like this with some really choice comments and simply go away with an appalling taste in the mouth.
Charli Main says
With respect Plumbar, instead of going away with an appalling taste in your mouth, why don´t you challenge ( without insults and abuse ) those posts that offend you ????
I might not agree with a particular point of view that you express, but I will never deny you the chance to express it.
The ability to agree to disagree, without resorting to abuse and violence, is the rock on which democracy and free speech stand.
THAT ONE OF THE FUNDERMENTAL DIFFERENCES BETWEEN US AND MUSLIMS——
Mirren10 says
I agree with Charli, Pumbar.
What’s up? You’re surely not excusing this appalling, smug, and terminally stupid bint ?
pumbar says
I am defending this bint. Even as a bluff Northerner.
Her last words…
“Considering the state we now find ourselves in, we cannot go crying to the police about every little IS sympathiser we come across on the high street. The system wouldn’t be able to cope”
Read the article she wrote back (after reading that last line) and also consider that she was writing it for the Spectator (a publication with the great Douglas Murray as Associate editor).
It’s obviously deeply sarcastic and scathing at the status quo. Her problem (obviously) is that she didn’t put sarc/off at the end of her submission to the Spectator.
With respect to Charli;
“The ability to agree to disagree, without resorting to abuse and violence, is the rock on which democracy and free speech stand.”
I don’t mind disagreement at all but I do mind full fronted abuse against my people and our institutions by some of the halfwits that now infect this site. In fact, I can’t understand that some of these idiots haven’t been labelled as “nutters as bad as the average islam follower” and had a huge barrage of righteous indignation against them.
Mirren10 says
Well, pumbar, I have to disagree with you.
I don’t think, given the subject matter and the tone of the rest of her inane drivel, that she was being “deeply sarcastic and scathing”.
By her own admission, she has been complicit in allowing a jihadist to spew his dawa at her,( if not worse), because, God save the mark, he was cute, and gave her a good deal on her tyres.
If that had been me, I’d have lost no time in immediately reporting this to the police. How does she know what this creep told her wasn’t true ? She doesn’t, and to my mind is therefore complicit. She makes me sick.
Newt says
Pure fantasy. A load of made up tosh. Another talentless individual jumping on the bandwagon.
Richard says
Under the new counter terror act, staff at schools [in the UK] are asked to identify children who may be influenced by extremist material.
So what does the school teacher and principal do?
They call the police when a pupil looked at a UKIP website and an English Defence League video in class.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-hampshire-35671519
Extremists in Britain are British Nationalists – not Islamic Jihadists anymore.
Chris Malan says
I’ve worked in Saudi Arabia and have read the Koran and know Muslim history. When I talk to Muslims many of them think I’m sympathetic to their aims as I clearly know so much about Islam. I can tell you now, there are a great many more Jihadist sympathisers among your everyday Muslims outside the Muslim world than nearly all people think. To watch them all will be a big task. This is a huge problem.
ECAW says
Thanks for the inside knowledge. I’m sure you’re right. Why wouldn’t they be sympathetic to jihad. Mo couldn’t have been much clearer on the requirement to spread Islam by jihad, in fact he had a word for those who refused to answer the call…hypocrites.
dumbledoresarmy says
I believe you, mate.
I believe you.
BC says
I thought the Spectator was serious journal, it seems they have lowered their standards if they print this silly woman.
They were not doing an ‘enormous’ job they were doing what you were paying them for.
Note also ‘the builder boyfriend’ not my boyfriend.
Arthur Brede says
What do you expect from a Volvo driver? Probably hit three cyclists and a pensioner on the way home.
But the Spectator is famous for doing this – rubbing people up the wrong way just to get a reaction. Forgive the magazine – it carries some very good voices. She’s just probably shagging the designer, or related to one of the board, another dim Sloane scrubber passing through publishing on her way to ‘better things’.
Bogbasturd says
We saved England twice before from Liberal progressives who attempted appeasement with Germany (chamberlain). We will have to save Europe again from itself. The Europeans have not been attacked from without since the Ottomans. They will be attacked from within again and again by Islam. We must be ready to save our European forbears.
Rodan for Change says
So when will the saving begin? I have a theoretical boot which could help.
Plamen says
The Vicious Snake: read by D. Trump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yeJ-iv3MOTo
Anti-PC.
Raney Daise says
I sure hope he didn’t get your name/address/and phone number on the tire paperwork.
Hope you lock your doors.
Mirren10 says
‘Herrod’s’. 🙂
I think you mean *Harrod’s** darling ! Although my grandmother used to refer to Harrod’s as ” that wicked old Herrod’s*. 🙂
Mike says
In the Spec, of all places!
Kim says
Well I wonder if this fool will feel the same way when her tyre bloke goes out bombs a building and kills even just one person!! Thanks to her stupidity that’s a very real probability….she can pat herself on the back when this happens huh because she may as well have lit the fuse herself