“The current regional Catholic-Muslim dialogues are the Mid-Atlantic (partnering with the Islamic Circle of North America), Midwest (partnering with the Islamic Society of North America) and West Coast (partnering with the Islamic Shura Council of Southern California and the Islamic Educational Center of Orange County). Each is co-chaired by a bishop and a Muslim leader from the corresponding regional organization. These dialogues will continue to meet and will work collaboratively with the members of the new national dialogue.”
The Islamic Circle of North America: “Terrorism analyst Steven Emerson claims that ICNA has close ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, the ideological forebear of all radical Islamic movements — including Hamas and al-Qaeda. Documents show that Hamas officials have participated in previous ICNA events. ‘The ICNA’s hatred of the Jews is so fierce,’ writes Emerson, ‘that it taunted them with a repetition of what Hitler did to them.’ In his book American Jihad, Emerson expounds: ‘The ICNA openly supports militant Islamic fundamentalist organizations, praises terror attacks, issues incendiary attacks on western values and policies, and supports the imposition of Sharia [Islamic law].’ ICNA was named in a May 1991 Muslim Brotherhood document — titled ‘An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America‘ — as one of the Brotherhood’s 29 likeminded ‘organizations of our friends’ that shared the common goal of destroying America and turning it into a Muslim nation. These ‘friends’ were identified by the Brotherhood as groups that could help teach Muslims ‘that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands … so that … God’s religion [Islam] is made victorious over all other religions.'”
The Islamic Society of North America: “ISNA leaders view Islam as being superior to all other faiths and destined to replace them. Taha J. Alwani, a leading official of the Fiqh Council of North America, which is run under ISNA, writes: ‘In considering the earth as an arena for Islam, Allah has promised its inheritance to His righteous people, and He has promised that Islam will prevail over other religions.’…In July 2008, ISNA’s lawyers conceded that their organization, through its affiliate NAIT, had given financial support to Hamas leader Mousa Abu Marzook. Their defense was that documentary evidence of those ties dated back to the late 1980s and early 1990s, before the U.S. government had officially designated Hamas as a terrorist organization.”
What do you think is the goal of such groups in engaging in “dialogue” with Catholic bishops? The U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops’ 2014 statement on “dialogue” quotes the 2007 document sent to the Pope and other Christian leaders, A Common Word Between Us and You. It is likely that not a single one of the bishops was ever curious about where the phrase “a common word between us and you comes from beyond the Qur’an citation provided in that document’s epigraph. If they had looked it up in the Qur’an, they would have found that the full passage is not a call for mutual understanding and mutual respect; rather, it is an exhortation to Christians to convert to Islam: “Say: ‘People of the Book! Come now to a word common between us and you, that we serve none but Allah, and that we associate no others with Him, and do not some of us take others as Lords, apart from Allah.’ And if they turn their backs, say: ‘Bear witness that we are Muslims’” (3:64). Since Muslims consider the Christian confession of the divinity of Christ to be an unacceptable association of a partner with God, this verse is saying that the “common word” that Muslims and the People of the Book should agree on is that Christians should discard one of the central tenets of their faith and essentially become Muslims.
For groups such as ICNA and ISNA, that is almost certainly what the “dialogue” is all about, along with compelling Catholic leaders to remain silent about Muslim persecution of Christians, as when Robert McManus, Roman Catholic Bishop of Worcester, Massachusetts, suppressed a planned talk at a Catholic conference on that persecution, explaining: “Talk about extreme, militant Islamists and the atrocities that they have perpetrated globally might undercut the positive achievements that we Catholics have attained in our inter-religious dialogue with devout Muslims.” Evil works under the cover of darkness, and McManus, drunk on “dialogue,” was happy to supply that cover.
But the typical modern Catholic bishop, coddled, cosseted, regal, arrogant, authoritarian, ignorant, self-infatuated, and utterly devoid of charity, will never deign to acknowledge any of this. They are blind guides.
“US Bishops Launch National Catholic-Muslim Dialogue,” Zenit, February 9, 2016:
Archbishop Blase J. Cupich of Chicago will serve as the first Catholic co-chair of a new National Catholic-Muslim Dialogue, sponsored by the Committee on Ecumenical and Interreligious Affairs of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB). Archbishop Cupich’s tenure as dialogue co-chair will begin January 1, 2017.
The bishops’ ecumenical and interreligious committee has co-sponsored three regional Catholic-Muslim dialogues for over two decades. Bishop Mitchell T. Rozanski of Springfield, Massachusetts, chair of the committee, said the time is right to begin a national dialogue.
“As the national conversation around Islam grows increasingly fraught, coarse and driven by fear and often willful misinformation, the Catholic Church must help to model real dialogue and good will,” said Bishop Rozanski. “Our current dialogues have advanced the goals of greater understanding, mutual esteem and collaboration between Muslims and Catholics, and the members have established lasting ties of friendship and a deep sense of trust. I am grateful to Archbishop Cupich for agreeing to represent our Conference in this crucial conversation.”
How grand: they’ve established lasting ties of friendship and a deep sense of trust. How many Christians have they saved from Muslim persecution? How many churches have they prevented from being destroyed by Islamic jihadis?
The current regional Catholic-Muslim dialogues are the Mid-Atlantic (partnering with the Islamic Circle of North America), Midwest (partnering with the Islamic Society of North America) and West Coast (partnering with the Islamic Shura Council of Southern California and the Islamic Educational Center of Orange County). Each is co-chaired by a bishop and a Muslim leader from the corresponding regional organization. These dialogues will continue to meet and will work collaboratively with the members of the new national dialogue….

Bradamante says
I keep thinking that we need a lay Catholic group to protest the insanity that’s going on, analogous to the way Voice of the Faithful protested the pedophile priest scandal.
Bill says
That is a productive suggestion, but I am not certain that such a group could be cobbled together. Once some ugly truths were revealed, there were few lay Catholics that would oppose rooting out the culture of homosexual pedophilia in the Church hierarchy. Even then, I think it was really the legal system and the litigation that forced the Church to confront the epidemic to the extent it has thus far. This issue is different. I think many lay Roman Catholics view themselves as progressives, supporters of Obama-style open borders and full on socialism. Those who are not strident progressive idealists find comfort in the warmth of the “why can’t we all just get along” fairy tale, This meaningless outreach of the Bishops will be welcomed by most or, at a minimum, seen as not objectionable. Witness the fawning admiration of Pope Francis.
PRCS says
To difficult for Church “leaders” and their respective flocks to access the Internet, to research the issue, and to think for themselves, apparently. There’s really no good reason to remain so ignorant.
mortimer says
Wish we could bring back William F. Buckley to kick these idiots.
Dom107 says
Religious people don’t think for themselves that’s why they are called “the flock” They just follow the leader which in the RCC is the Pope and his dictates.In Islam it is the evil exhortations of Mohammed and in the hundreds if not thousands of Protestant sects it is their selective interpretations of the Bible.All are stupid and self deluded!
Be rational people think for yourselves.Morality does not need religion
Pong says
It has been tryed before. Next thing you will say they are naive. The next – they intentions are good and so on.
No, they are not ignorant, or naive and their intentions are evil as the curch they belong to.
Pong says
Dom 107.
You are better reader then I am. I couldn’t find any morality in catholic church, but plenty immorality in teir teachings.
Shane says
The Catholic Church has now allied with the traitorous left and with Islamic jihad. There is no reason for any conservative or American patriot to stay with the Catholic Church. time to stop giving the traitorous Catholic church your dollars and support. Islam is the enemy of Christianity and it has been so for 1,400 years. Muslims believe that peace will occur when everyone is either a Muslim or a dhimmi. Apparently the Roman Catholic church has accepted dhimmi status.
Bill says
Why does not the Roman Catholic leadership simply submit to Islam? They are practically there already. Why not make it official? Islam is slaughtering Catholics and Christians on a global scale and this Pope and his Vatican can barely acknowledge it, speak against it in the most timid and supplicating terms, openly encourage the Islamic invasion of Europe and do absolutely nothing to mobilize people and governments to oppose either the slaughter or the invasion.
Jack says
Checkout the “Interfaith Movement” God warned there would come a time when He would send “Strong Delusion” to many professing Christians and now many are fellowshipping with a anti-Christ religion. :”They put forth a most monstrous thing when they say God has a son” The Qur’an has lots of verses like this, one of the biggest reasons Muslims hate Christians is because we believe in the deity of Jesus, yet these fools are ignoring what God commands us to do when it concerns anti-Christ people.
mortimer says
The lacuna of knowledge about Islam is abysmal!
Most clergy haven’t read even one of Islam’s source texts and don’t know how many there are. They are underperforming at protecting Christians from persecution.
The clergy should be converting the Muslims.
Shane says
Yes, they have submitted to Islam as have liberal Protestant churches in America. Islam is our ancient enemy and we must unite to defeat it.
Pong says
The church supports establishment of another moslem terrorist state.
Russell Kirk Was Right says
The Catholic faith has been under siege for decades now, and the “Spirit of Vatican II” has been the fuel of this assault. So long as there’s this level of confusion, I can’t see how any Protestant interested in the claims of Rome could be so enticed.
For my brothers and sisters already there: stand strong against the corrosive clergy and their damned lies. And blessings to the minority of priests who will not yield to this madness.
PRCS says
Hard to imagine it’s “confusion”.
Cynthia says
So now I’m seeing something here. I can tell you that the Melkite Greek Orthodox Church in Jordan is completely linked to the government which is Islamic. So tell me now what does this tell us??
Cynthia says
I want to know why the Pope is such good friends with Jordan…
Champ says
US Catholic Bishops launch National Catholic-Muslim Dialogue, partnering with groups linked to Hamas and MB
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
This “National Catholic-Muslim Dialogue” is part and parcel of the evil *Chrislam* movement:
“Chrislam Exposed: The Seductive Lie of a Common God between Christianity & Islam”
https://youtu.be/DJd6kPimijw
Wellington says
I know you know by now, Champ, that I am not a Christian, but that is a powerful video you provided which, above all other matters, attempts, and successfully I would argue, to educate folks at large that the Judeo-Christian deity is NOT the Islamic deity or, at the very least, is the Judeo-Christian deity horribly mischaracterized (which pretty much amounts to the same thing respecting consequences and implications).
I know you and I can agree on many matters and one of them is that the Islamic conception of a monotheistic deity is, AT THE VERY LEAST, an affront to what Christians and Jews believe about ultimate reality and the power which directs this ultimate reality. Therefore, no informed Jew or Christian should extend any respect to Allah for this Allah is either a total fiction or a horrible representation of the “real thing.” Informed non-theists (though I concede this term could be assessed by a theist as an oxymoron, yet I like to think an exception could be made now and again by theists———for instance in my case——-but perhaps I press this “issue” too far) should align with Christians and Jews in refuting that “Allah” functions as the same deity as that which Christians and Jews believe in. In fact, if only most religious Jews and Christians would proceed from this premise, i.e., that the Muslim “Allah” should not be respected, then an article like the very one you and I and others have commented on would never have appeared In the first place, n’est ce pas?
Champ says
Wellington, I’m glad you watched the video and that you found it informative; and thank you for sharing your thoughts on the subject, too!
Were it possible that we could be talking about other things–but no, islam is a reality–and a dangerous one, at that.
Hal says
This is my first post to this site.
I get the distinct impression that “Chrislam” is the one world religion that the NWO globalists seek. The idea that there will be world peace if we all had the same belief system is rather foolish and dangerous.
The “building of bridges” that Islamists talk about is so that non-muslims can walk across to Islam and not muslims to Christianity or Judaism.
I have had real concerns about Pope Francis and his leftist’s leanings.
Champ says
Welcome, Hal, and thank you for your comment. Yes–I also think that “Chrislam” will play a key role in the 1-World religion the Bible mentions. And Pope Francis is on my radar, too.
John Galt III says
“Gay Priest – Child Molesting Church cozies up to Islam”.
Whatever.
All mainstream churches are the Socialist Parties of their respective countries at prayer and that includes all mainstream Protestant churches and the Catholic churches. They have all sold out and are useless. Reform and Conservative Jewish sects are no different.
Totally Eloi – 100% of the time.
Rosewood11 says
Anyone who thinks that the National Conference of Catholic Bishops in any way represents the feelings of the Body of Christ, let alone Christ Himself, is sorely mistaken. They are giving scandal to the faithful, and are driving them out of the Church. Come quickly, Lord Jesus, or there will be no faith left–at least not in the Church of Rome.
Adrian says
OK… and the first topic should be the continuous persecutions and killings of Xtians in Islamic countries
Next should be to ask them to take out all the violent anti-Xtian commands in Quran, Ibn Ishaq and hadith…
… then the bishops and imams can sit down to tea
Salome says
The first topic should be what you say, but we all know that the first and only topic will be what a wonderful faith Islam is.
Hope says
Christian-Muslim dialogue, eh? Sounds like a guaranteed way to end up without one’s head. Violence is the only language they understand.
Wellington says
This kind of nonsense from the American Catholic hierarchy has its origins in Vatican II (1962-1965) which began the process of Roman Catholicism becoming a faith that has lost its collective mind all the while embracing a subterfuge kind of relativism (e.g., per Vatican II all major religions have valid divine revelation) that is not only mere conjecture but iniquitous as well because it gives Islam a pass which it surely does not deserve.
If there is a deity and that deity provided Mohammed with divine revelation via the Koran, then that deity is a cosmic jerk. Yes it is. So much of the Catholic hierarchy doesn’t get this, but then there is a great deal this hierarchy doesn’t get anymore, with the present Pope at the top of the list here.
Rich says
“But the typical modern Catholic bishop, coddled, cosseted, regal, arrogant, authoritarian, ignorant, self-infatuated, and utterly devoid of charity, will never deign to acknowledge any of this. They are blind guides.”
Beautiful.
Tell us how you really feel, Robert. You are at your best when you are [rightly] criticizing the USCCB and its ilk for their smug ignorant arrogance. Keep it up.
Angemon says
“You can only dialogue with those who want to dialogue, for example, with our muslim brothers, dialogue is very difficult. It’s very difficult because they won’t even admit to face criticism, they think their truth is whole and only. Dialogue with muslims in a Catholic majority country serves for muslims do like wolves on a forest, mark their space. Muslims have a vision in which the place they get together to pray becomes theirs alone, it’s the place where allah met with them so no one else is allowed to pray in that place.” – José IV, Patriarch of Lisbon, 2009
Dan Jones says
And the apostasy keeps rolling on and on….
More End Time News At:
http://www.shininginthedark.com/?page_id=4526
Westman says
California is only 28% Catholic and the majority of those are Hispanic. I’d love to see the attendance figures. No matter what the traitorous clergy says, these Catholics want to be full Americans and will take on misbehaving Muslims who put their status in jepardy. I think the Bishops are talking to themselves in California.
Even most Amercan Catholics regard Rome with a jaundiced eye. America(US) is known to have the least compliant flock.
Susan J. Thtome says
Archbishop Cupich is a dangerous heretic. To think of a Catholic prince of the Church collaborating with the likes of Hamas and al-Qaeda is beyond belief, even for him, with all the evil he has espoused. I hope the Israelis have his name on their list of enemies.
mortimer says
The bishops are acting as shepherds who hide the crimes of the Islamic wolves.
They are letting the wolves go at the sheep without a word of protest.
Who will speak out for the oppressed? Who will defend the sheep if not the bishops?
BISHOPS, DO YOUR JOB!
Karen says
“How many Christians have they saved from Muslim persecution? How many churches have they prevented from being destroyed by Islamic jihadis?”
Well, none, and none. But the bishops do feel good about themselves, because of that “mutual esteem” thing.
Creole Gumbo says
A few years ago I decided to attend one of these Interfaith Dialogues just to see what it was all about. There was no “dialogue.” It was an Islamic proselytizing event in which a number of former Christians proclaimed the wonders of Islam and the happiness that they found upon conversion. Women wearing head scarves proclaimed how free they felt after converting to Islam.
I guess they have gone full mainstream and gotten to the clergy too. I left the Catholic Church 35 years ago and converted into Judaism. If I were still in the Church I would get out now.
Kasey says
Let’s hope they talk about ABROGATION AND THE MEDINA VERSES,Taqiyya and Apostacy in this so-called inter-faith dialogue. Then make a declaration of it to the World.
duh_swwani says
Us there something about the Catholic priesthood that creates stupidity?
Maybe it’s those ridiculous costumes they wear…
Are the priestly going to convince Mahoundians that Jesus is God, or the son of God? and how will Mahoundians co0nvince them that Jesus was a ‘Prophet’ only? It’s a fools err rend and only a fool would set foot on that path…
Roger says
Fine. Let’s just clssify all these Devouts as devout and part of the same basket, to be treated equally….
duh_swami says
The priesthood is a welfare recipient…they get to wear contuses and parade around with a ‘holier than thou’ attitude. and others pay for it…It’s one huge ego trip, but and a swell life style. for those not capable of getting a real job…
Kepha says
@ DOM:
Dom107 says
February 11, 2016 at 6:34 am
Religious people don’t think for themselves that’s why they are called “the flock” They just follow the leader which in the RCC is the Pope and his dictates.In Islam it is the evil exhortations of Mohammed and in the hundreds if not thousands of Protestant sects it is their selective interpretations of the Bible.All are stupid and self deluded!
Be rational people think for yourselves.Morality does not need religion
Yeah, sure. My enlightened, progressive, scientific, secularized, liberated friends keep their brains securely behind the eyeglasses of the editorialists of the NYTimmes and WaPo. When I was a lad in the 1960’s, they screamed at me it was scientifically proven we were going to freeze to death in a few years, and when I was a young man they screamed at me we were going to fry. If you told them “science sez, take off your pants and stand on your head”, we’d have butt-naked heat-standers everywhere. As someone who’s been a licensed preacher, I only wish the flocks I preached to were as easily led as those who think they’re enlightened and scientific.
The image of traditional Christians as credulous herd animals is a case of secularist projection of itself on the Other.
ed says
I’m not surprised I have always considered the Catholic church a cult that teaches another Jesus . So why would they not Aline themselves with the Muslims .
Keys says
@Ed I am curious-
In what way does the Catholic Church teach “another Jesus”?
Basically, the Catholic Church teaches about Jesus what is in the Apostles Creed and the Nicene Creed, based on the NT, as do most Protestant churches. Islam sees those creeds as blasphemous.
Respectfully,
Keys
Wellington says
Following Keys here, ed, would you explain what the hell you mean when you assert that “the Catholic church a cult that teaches another Jesus?” Frankly, I have to consider you a deeply ignorant man for asserting what you did. But go ahead and try to prove me wrong here. You know, sometimes one post is not nearly enough. Yours could serve as a good example unless you reply again, hopefully with back-up which, however, I highly doubt you have.
War Horse says
There was a time in the history of the Catholic Church when the Church was the implacable foe of Islam.
Islam has never changed. Only the Catholic Church has changed and thus we have this inter-faith dialogue.
WorkingClassPost says
Apologies if anyone has posted about this already – time’s tight and stuck on a phone (again), but there’s at least one article @ catholicherald.co.UK which shows that there are voices of dissent: search David Alton. I’ll click on my own link after this is posted to check that it works.
WorkingClassPost says
Try again: http://www.catholicherald.co.uk Just looked and there might also be something of interest re the historic meeting of Eastern and Western church leaders in Cuba.
WorkingClassPost says
The link gets there, but it’s a rubbish site to navigate on a phone.
WorkingClassPost says
Following on from that. They’ve recently been flagged as containing malware (so best not download anything). But whether it was a random virusy thing, or a targeted attack I don’t know (now who might do that you may wonder). Anyway, the site was probably not properly secured, which reminds me of the hand wringing that used to go on about needing to lock up churches during out of use hours, regrettable of course, but proof that not all are Christian, even when living among Christians. So how surprising is it that they cannot face the truth about islam when they couldn’t turn a key in their front door without losing their faith in humanity.
ninetyninepct says
I essentially told the Catholic clergy to get stuffed 40 yrs ago. Our priest was shocked when we told him we would be using birth control so we could establish our young lives before considering a family. He had nothing to say when asked if the Catholic Church was going to provide financial support instead. It was our decision, and we weren’t going to blindly obey Church orders. The superior attitude of Church higher ups is shocking and so very disconnected.
I only enter a Catholic church when I have to. Chauvinistic and prehistoric.
Carolyne says
I have entered a Catholic Church a couple of times for weddings. I once attended a christening where the priest cast the devil out of the baby. I thought that was a bit silly.
The reason that the Catholic Church forbids birth control is in order to have more Catholics. They do not consider the quality of life of the Catholic, but the quantity. Frank McCourt wrote an excellent autobiography of his life as a child in Ireland and quite a bit about the hold the Catholic church had on the population. Excellent book. “Angela’s Ashes.”
And until quite recently, women and girls were required to cover their hair when they entered a Catholic Church. Sort of Islamic.
Pong says
I remember C.S.Lewis stated in one of his books that if he believed that catholic church was anti-semitic, he would have stopped being a catholic. Today it would be if one believes that the catholic church supports islam he would’ve stopped being a catholic.
So all one has to do is to believe that the church doesn’t support islam and his conscious is clear.
I have to give it to our catholic friends – very accommodating faith. It is only believe what counts, not decency. I am sure many will find all sort of excuses to stay catholics. Good luck to you. . I predicted church’s accommodation of islam more then 10 years ago on this blog. Not being blinded by faith it wasn’t difficult. If the attitude of catholic church towards islam surprised you, you have many more surprises coming your way.
Kepha says
C.S. Lewis was an Anglican. J.R.R. Tolkien was personally irked that Lewis’ conversion to Christ did not lead him to Rome.
UNCLE VLADDI says
There’s a lot of government tax money (i.e: your hard-earned money) in the islamopandering industry right now, and these porkers can smell it!
“Catholic Charities Inc.” is THE largest “migrant” resettling organization!!!
UNCLE VLADDI says
there’s only two cultures in the universe: civilization, & barbarism.
Civilization is enabled by agreeing to obey the Golden Rule of Law, which defines morality (simply: DO NOT ATTACK FIRST)! From it, we get trust and progress.
After all, when you attack first, then by definition you’re the predatory, criminal aggressor, and they’re your innocent victims; there’s no two ways about it.
Of course, when you attack a technologically superior enemy first, it doesn’t matter that you can “only” kill a few of them, then pretend to be victims when you inevitably lose.
The ends don’t justify the means – the means only define the end results. When you lie, steal and murder to get your way, even if you “succeed,” doesn’t make you into a mighty “king” or great “prophet” – it means you’re only still a lying, murderous thief.
Lies cannot become truth, no matter how many people agree with them, and truth cannot become a lie, no matter how many people choose to ignore it.
Barbarism is the opposite of civilization – where at least one group claims it’s their holy right & duty to always attack everyone else first, so there, nyah! (i.e: ISLAM). From it, they get distrust and stagnation.
Other than that, all threats are also a form of (psychological) attack (aka: coercion, duress, extortion, “terrorism”) and all non-defensive attacks are crimes.
Here’s islam’s “holy Message from god” as exemplified by the words & deeds of it’s Founder:
“I will save humanity by lying to, extorting, robbing, kidnapping, ransoming, enslaving, burning out of their homes, torturing, raping and murdering everyone who even only verbally disagrees with me – and you can, too!”
-Muhammad-
So islam is obviously only an ancient ongoing CRIME-syndicate, and the only “religious” part in it, is where they say:
“God told us to commit these crimes!”
(Capisce?)!
😉
No one would fall for that excuse if the (mostly Italian) mafia used it – so why do our “leaders” pretend to fall for it when the (originally Arab) muslims do?!
I’d ask them a simple question: “Do you consider these things (lies/fraud, extortion, robbery, kidnapping & ransoming, slavery, arson, torture, rape & murder) to be:
a) holy religious rights & obligations (?),
or:
b) crimes (?)
If you answered ‘a,’ you’re probably a moslem. If you answered ‘b,’ you’re sane, and if you had trouble deciding, you’re probably a liberal.
And liberals only react in such a cowardly, treasonous-to-civilization way, because they pretend that: “The only way to stop the barbarians from attacking us, is to give them all our (your) stuff, because after all, we stole it all from them in the first place! Submit to the fear of pain, because Giving Up is a holy virtue! Judge Not – EVER!”
Then they accuse everyone else of being “Hater/ Racist/ Bigot” as if we have nothing better to do than to commit “hate crimes” (well, sure – I hate crimes, don’t you?) and that we’re all “bigoted” for noticing the Qur’an is a permanent written death-threat because it claims all it’s moslems are so superior to everyone else, that it’s not only their right, but their holy duty to their god, to extort, enslave, and murder all the non-moslems in the world. Islam is a threat because it claims it is.
Which leaves the liberals’ racism claims. Why bring that up at all, ever – do they honestly think islam is a “race”?!
I think it’s their own, liberal racism at work: clearly, the reason the moslems are violent is due to nurture, not to nature; to the software (the Qur’an), not the hardware. After all, when your barbaric, parasite “culture” is based on “THOU SHALT KILL!” it’s obvious that you’re bound to get completely different socio-economic results (like living in dirt & ruins, and forcing your women to wear their own burka funeral shrouds) than if you were born into a civilized, industrious culture that relies on “THOU SHALT NOT KILL!”
The first step in solving any problem, is to correctly define and expose it.
But self-promoting liberal salesmen always ignore the obvious, (because there’s no money in solutions,) and can always be counted on to spin simple, temporary problem with easy, permanent solutions, into eternal “crises,” in order to exploit the infinite symptoms of ignoring the initial problem, in order to sell us victimology, in order to buy us lowest to sell themselves as the most high, as our much-needed crisis-relief management experts. i.e: “Please Give Generously – AGAIN!”
So, the liberals will always play the race card – which only secretly assumes that since only white, Western people are INTELLIGENT enough to be blamed for being guilty of being truly EVIL, (and of course that includes the Jews in Israel) then their poor “People Of Colur” pets (including the “swarthy” palestinians) just can’t help being violent animals, the oppressed little dears – so they’ll always get a free pass for their 1,400 year history of “holy” crimes: all the lies and frauds, extortions, robberies, kidnappings, ransomings, arsons, tortures, slaveries, rapes & murders, (and that’s wilfully ignoring over a quarter billion deliberate ‘holy’ murders – or human sacrifices – “for allah,” so far,) much as one indulges the new puppy as it pees on the rugs!
After all, according to the liberals, islam’s self-proclaimed “vastly superior” culture “clearly needs to be protected” by special multiculturalist, anti-blasphemy and anti-racist hate-crime “laws,” because it’s the diversely opposite equal to our own civilized laws.
Because evil is the diversely opposite equal to good, and “so it must be protected” from good’s “bigoted, hateful, racist” crimes of daring to try to defend itself from evil’s non-defensive attacks! Pretending their openly intolerant, intransigent and aggressive culture is the exact same as our currently cringingly defensive one, is an obvious lie.
So: multiculturalism IS racism, plain and simple.
The Golden Rule’s Laws are all based on not attacking first – on “who started it?” – on rational cause and effect.
It’s the UN’s founding charter (“don’t be the aggressor in war!”) in the doctor’s hippocratic oath (“First, do no harm!”) and even in the social engineers’ precautionary principle. Even all little kids already instinctively know it as the “But Mom! THEY STARTED IT!” Rule (!)
But liberals irrationally pretend that a mere symptom – “attacking” – is always bad, even in defense of one’s self or of innocent others! Like evil kindergarten teachers, these literally preposterous (backwards) liberal nannystatist victimology salesmen assert their mindless authority as: “I don’t care who started it – I only want it all to stop!” which of course only encourages the bullies while blaming the victims, by asserting that defending one’s self is a crime as bad as being an aggressive bully.
We’ve gone from refusing to attack first, to refusing to attack at all, even to defend ourselves and our children, ever!
We’ve gone from a society where only individual human citizens have rights (and all mere groups of individuals are at most assigned some temporary, revokable privileges) to the exact opposite – where only groups have rights (as they sell divisive identity-politics, mere symptoms of individual humans) and all fallible victim humans are at most assigned some temporary, revokable privileges.
Under the Golden Rule (do not attack first) even the largest group, the state, didn’t have the right to attack any of it’s individual human citizen members first, which is where we got “innocent UNTIL Proven Guilty” from… but of course that’s now being reversed, too. When we hire (‘elect’) salesmen to legislate, then legislate they will – if only to be seen to be doing something to earn their money. But since all laws depend from the Golden Rule, and there’s only so many time & space applications to apply that rule to, they must eventually start breaking that rule of morality, and legislating false ‘ethics’ (the symtoms of having broken that rule). Which is where we’re all at now.
After all, remember that the liberal salesman’s creed is: “There’s no money in solutions!”
And upon what altar do they sacrifice our Civilization to the barbarians? On the altar of self-interested, cowardly treasonous masochism, of course! Because right now, the barbarians are the only ones controlling both the carrot AND the stick of the behavioural conditioning fear and greed binary: the vast oil-money manufacturing industry bribes, and the personal threats of being firebombed and beheaded for daring to criticize “extortion, the religion of pacification.”
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See also:
http://vladdi.wordpress.com/2013/12/27/are-catholics-really-muslims/
Rob Porter says
So well put, Robert: “But the typical modern Catholic bishop, coddled, cosseted, regal, arrogant, authoritarian, ignorant, self-infatuated, and utterly devoid of charity, will never deign to acknowledge any of this. They are blind guides.”
In the Catholic website LifeSiteNews I made some extremely condemning comments about Pope Francis and had an editor respond, “Charity Rob, charity”. But then the light dawned on LSN and it has been refreshing to see their disenchantment with this half-baked Christian who passes for a Pope. What a disgrace, firing good men and promoting liberal trash. Christians are dying in the most savage manner at the hands of Muslim savages and these clowns of the Catholic Church hold pleasant dialogue that avoids addressing the terrible persecution of Christians by Muslims. Behind the backs of these Catholic clergy the Muslims must be in fits of laughter..
Mark A says
I’m Catholic and I think this effort is doomed to failure.
I’ve read the Koran and I don’t see dialogue being possible with people who believe in things like Sura 9, which gives us Catholics, as People of the Book, three basic choices: the opportunity to accept Islam and convert to Islam; if we don’t want to convert, then we can pay the jizya to Muslims and accept permanent second class status; or, if we don’t convert or pay jizya, the Muslims kill us in accordance with the Koran.
Sorry, U.S. Bishops. As one of your parishioners, I don’t believe “dialogue” is possible with Islamists and I think you’re delusional if you think it is.
Surtr Gramr says
Blasphemies against Christianity in the Koran
Sura 43:59 states “Jesus was no more than a mortal whom Allah favoured and made an example to the Israelites.
Mohammed says that Christ is not the son of God.
Sura 4:169 “Believe in God and his apostles and say not three..”
The Koran denies the Holy Trinity
Sura 5, section 16, verse 119, reads: “And behold! Allah will say: “O Jesus the son of Mary! Didst thou say unto men, “Worship me and my mother as gods in derogation of God”?
Mohammed chastises Jesus and his mother for pretending to be Gods.
Sura 19:20,34, Jesus praised his birth and then said, “I am the servant of Allah.” And Allah teaches, “It is not for God to take a son unto Him.”
Mohammed says that Christ denied that he was the son of God.
Surah 4.157: That they said, “We slew the Messiah, Jesus the son of Mary, the messenger of God”-yet they did not slay him neither crucified him, only a likeness of that which was shown to them.”
Mohammed says that Christ did not die on the cross and resurrected 3 days later.
These blasphemies need to be removed from every Koran in Canada, if they are not then every copy of the Koran should banned for insulting the Christian faith.
underbed cat says
The conference should get a list of words that have opposite meanings in the muslim world or sharia law, and grab quick reference book from Spencer. Words like jihad, justice, peace, freedom,martyrdom…..and realize according to the K book Allah was the” greatest deceiver and misdirection is the duty of every muslim to prevent the ideology from appearing too harsh. (or for that matter not link it to isis). Or read the article and interview of Jean -Clement Jeanbart, the Melkite Greek Catholic Archbishop of Alleppo and get a few facts on what is really happening.
Just saying.
underbed cat says
Steve Emerson excellent source of information. The Grand Deception….video.
Learn, live and save lives.
Herman says
Only 1 word: IDIOTS!!
(just like their chief the useless pope – same idiot who believes islam is peace, while there has never been so much persecution of Christians!!!)