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AP “corrects” Trump for saying Islam treats women badly

Mar 13, 2016 3:50 pm By Robert Spencer

The Qur’an likens a woman to a field (tilth), to be used by a man as he wills: “Your women are a tilth for you, so go to your tilth as you will” (2:223).

It declares that a woman’s testimony is worth half that of a man: “Get two witnesses, out of your own men, and if there are not two men, then a man and two women, such as you choose, for witnesses, so that if one of them errs, the other can remind her” (2:282).

It allows men to marry up to four wives, and have sex with slave girls also: “If you fear that you shall not be able to deal justly with the orphans, marry women of your choice, two or three or four; but if you fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly, then only one, or one that your right hands possess, that will be more suitable, to prevent you from doing injustice” (4:3).

It rules that a son’s inheritance should be twice the size of that of a daughter: “Allah directs you as regards your children’s inheritance: to the male, a portion equal to that of two females” (4:11).

Worst of all, the Qur’an tells husbands to beat their disobedient wives: “Men are in charge of women, because Allah has made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property. So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah has guarded. As for those from whom you fear rebellion, admonish them and banish them to beds apart, and scourge them” (4:34).

It allows for marriage to pre-pubescent girls, stipulating that Islamic divorce procedures “shall apply to those who have not yet menstruated” (65:4).

Islamic law stipulates that a man’s prayer is annulled if a dog or a woman passes in front of him as he is praying. “Narrated ‘Aisha: The things which annul the prayers were mentioned before me. They said, “Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman (if they pass in front of the praying people).” I said, ‘You have made us (i.e. women) dogs.’ I saw the Prophet praying while I used to lie in my bed between him and the Qibla. Whenever I was in need of something, I would slip away. for I disliked to face him.” (Sahih Bukhari 1.9.490)

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“AP ‘Corrects’ Trump For Saying Islam Treats Women Badly,” by Blake Neff, Daily Caller, March 12, 2016 (thanks to Thomas):

The Associated Press published a “fact check” of Donald Trump’s claim during Thursday’s GOP debate that “Islam treats women horribly,” saying it is untrue, even though there is ample evidence for such a statement.

“No such generalization is supported by the diverse circumstances for women in the Muslim world,” writes the AP’s Calvin Woodward.

Woodward backs up his argument with several statements.

“The United States has yet to see a woman as president, many years after Muslim women achieved national leadership in other countries, most prominently Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto back in the late 1980s and in the 1990s,” he says, glossing over the fact Bhutto was assassinated in 2007, and that her rise was enabled by the fact she was in an extremely powerful political dynasty.

Woodward also dismisses other ways Islamic doctrine leads to women being legally or socially limited, arguing that many women prefer it that way.

“Some Muslim societies are indeed repressive by Western standards, enforcing or pressing for norms such as clothing that covers all but their eyes or faces; bans on driving, voting and education; and restrictions on interacting with the other sex,” he writes. “But many Muslim women adhere to Islamic norms not out of fear or repression, but in observance of faith and their own preference.”…

…a 2012 report by the World Economic Forum ranked 135 countries based on their level of gender equality — measured by women’s level of education, political empowerment, health and economic opportunity. Of the 135 countries on the list, the most highly-ranked one with a Muslim majority was Kyrgyzstan at 35th. Fifteen of the bottom 20 countries are Muslim, while three more have large Muslim minorities.

Several of the world’s most severe violations of women’s rights are most common in Islamic countries. For example, the practice of female genital mutilation (FGM) is seen most often in the Islamic world, as the practice occurs frequently in central Africa, Egypt, Iraq, Yemen and Indonesia. Most Muslim countries allow men, but not women, to practice polygamy. Child marriage is a major issue in several Muslim countries because Islam generally allows women to be married off at a very young age. In Pakistan, an effort to ban child marriage was blocked after clerics declared it un-Islamic.

There are many ways in which women are treated as inferior to men under Islamic law (Sharia). In many Muslim countries, a woman’s testimony is treated as one-half of a man’s testimony in certain trials. Women may initiate divorce in Islam, but are at a disadvantage relative to men. When women are murdered or are otherwise the victims of crime, Islamic jurisprudence holds that less blood money be paid out than in the case of a man. Women may collect inheritances, but in most cases their share is half that of men’s….

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  1. Champ says

    Mar 13, 2016 at 4:05 pm

    I’m going with Donald Trump on this one!

    • Jay Boo says

      Mar 13, 2016 at 5:15 pm

      The “Drive-By Media” brands as [Right-Wing] anything that questions Islam.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 13, 2016 at 9:04 pm

      Agreed, Champ.

      • panmelia says

        Mar 14, 2016 at 8:00 am

        Who the f*** is Calvin Woodenhead when he’s at home?

        Does he have any female relatives, wife, daughters? Why doesn’t he dump them off in some wonderful musim country where they’ll be so much better off and happier than in repressive America where they haven’t even had a woman president (assassinated) yet?

        I have never heard such arse-licking, scum-sucking, islamopologist, sycophantic, fact-ignoring, fact-denying load of toss and sewage in my life. Does he call himself a journalist? He thereby blackens the profession simply by claiming to be a member of it.

        More importantly and much more despicably, he undermines, negates, ignores and therefore endorses the sufferings of millions of women unfortunate enough to have been born female in the nastiest, most misogynistic and female-abusing ‘religion’ in the history of the planet.

        Send this tosser among the taliban dressed in the shroud women have to wear and let him raise his skirt to show off a bare shaven shin. Then he’d discover a ‘fact’ about the way women are treated in islamic hellholes by the enlightened thugs who live there. Of course, if they’re desperate enough for sex, they might just keep the head covering on and use him as their ’tilth’, in which case he could enjoy the whole experience of being a woman in an islamic country.

    • Bamaguje says

      Mar 14, 2016 at 9:32 am

      I suppose AP never heard of Islamic honor killing, child marriage and jailing of rape victims in several Muslim countries.

      • Carolyne says

        Mar 14, 2016 at 10:59 am

        and stoning to death women who have been raped. They also forgot to say that a rape victim must have four male witnesses to the rape or she will be prosecuted as having sex out of marriage and also stoned to death.
        The method of doing this is to bury a woman upright in the sand with only her head sticking out and then having a truckload of large stones delivered so that men passing by can stone her to death. I suppose women like this, too

        If Islam is such a great blessing for women, perhaps Mr. Woodward would ask his wife and daughters, if he has any, to make appointments to have their genitals mutilated with a rusty razor or piece of glass? And then there is the market in female sex slaves consisting of those Yazidi and Christian who have been captured in battle? This is too ridiculous for further comment.

        • Bukkdem Jizheads says

          Mar 14, 2016 at 5:49 pm

          I think they prefer smaller stones, to draw out the procedure and let all the men have a good time. They don’t want to cold-cock her right from the get-go.

    • Jack Gordon says

      Mar 14, 2016 at 9:53 am

      Ditto for me.

  2. Peter Charles says

    Mar 13, 2016 at 4:07 pm

    When Ms. B . Bhutto returned, the muslims murdered her. So much revenge for her having the nerve to become a previous premier.

    • Kathy Brown, Esq. says

      Mar 13, 2016 at 11:16 pm

      Yes that’s true Peter. But please: Don’t think of that now. It’s islamophobic.

      By the way: Do all here notice how, when you [deliberately] don’t capitalize ‘islam’ or ‘muslim’, the computer underlines it? As an error?

      Doesn’t happen when you don’t capitalize ‘Catholic’ or ‘Jew’ tho’. Oh, what am I nattering on about? Just a coincidence. I’m sure.

  3. Resist says

    Mar 13, 2016 at 4:18 pm

    How much money is the Associated Press getting to lie through their teeth? So much corruption it is unbelievable!!!!!! ISSlam the vile cult that rapes, kills, destroy little infants etc has paid them how MUCH?????

    • Jay Boo says

      Mar 13, 2016 at 5:11 pm

      Striking a PC pose.
      It is not money they seek; they like Ben Affleck are posers of appeasement.

      They want bragging rights to appear worldly and tolerant in their liberal circle-jerk gatherings.
      These folks would throw their own children under the bus for a flattering liberal press write-up.

      • Bukkdem Jizheads says

        Mar 14, 2016 at 6:04 pm

        It is about money and abject fear. Many big law firms are controlled by Arab clients. The lawyers give very disproportionately to Democrats. I believe moslims got Obama into the WH by making contributions through credit cards which were not verified to match the address and zips of the cardholder. This is a fraud protection any company can choose to ignore and many do. In this case, you can pick an address out of a US phone book and make a contribution with foreign money. As long as the charge goes through and the contribution is not too big, it’s all good.

        Only one newspaper in America published the Mohammed cartoons. That’s fear gripping our media. Hollywood doesn’t have the stomach to even ridicule their hideous society, for fear their dog will be poisoned or daughter snatched.

  4. Angemon says

    Mar 13, 2016 at 4:22 pm

    The Associated Press published a “fact check” of Donald Trump’s claim during Thursday’s GOP debate that “Islam treats women horribly,” saying it is untrue, even though there is ample evidence for such a statement.

    And we all know that the Associated Press is the go-to place to get info on islamic orthodoxy, right? Islamic texts and teachings? Islamic clerics? Pffffftt, as if!…

    “The United States has yet to see a woman as president

    Can you blame Americans voters (including women) when Hillary is meant to be the symbol of women in American policy?

    “Some Muslim societies are indeed repressive by Western standards, enforcing or pressing for norms such as clothing that covers all but their eyes or faces; bans on driving, voting and education; and restrictions on interacting with the other sex,” he writes. “But many Muslim women adhere to Islamic norms not out of fear or repression, but in observance of faith and their own preference.”

    Let’s see if I follow: some (which?) muslim societies are repressive by Western standards (great, cultural relativism at work…) and enforce norms such as clothing that covers all but the eyes, but many women in those societies, despite not having the right to choose what they want to wear, use the clothing being enforced on them not because they’re forced to use it, but because they want to use the clothing they’re forced to use.

    I’ll take a triply-extra-twisted pretzel and an aspirin because I got a headache trying to follow that kind of mental gymnastics. May I recommend Mr. Woodward a companion article to this one? It’s about this thing called “Stockholm Syndrome”…

    http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-22447726

    • warren Raymond says

      Mar 13, 2016 at 7:02 pm

      They get their talking points from the Arab-Muslim lobby.

    • Carolyne says

      Mar 14, 2016 at 3:03 pm

      I think that women in Muslim countries know that they will be stoned to death if they do not follow the dress code, not because they want to follow it. It’s like saying that a slave enjoys being a slave. Which, by the way, slavery is common although semi-illegal in Muslim countries. Would Mr. Woodward like to try out his theory by being a sex slave for ISIS for a day? Following the actions of their great prophet, Mo (May Pigs be upon him) they enjoy sex with men, too. Oh, let us not forget about the goats. But if one has sex with one’s goat. Mo said (May pigs be upon him) that you have to sell the abused goat to another village, not your own. Oh yes, lovely benign Islam. Heaven on earth.

  5. Adrian says

    Mar 13, 2016 at 4:23 pm

    Main Stream Media is a laughing-stock… In their alacrity to smear Trump, they are making these asinine statements which will come back to bite them!

    Are they taking the readers to be idiots? Do they really think Muslim women prefer honor killings, forced marriages, acid thrown in their faces, female genital mutilations?

    Then the MSM can’t understand why intelligent Americans are fed up with more of their lies…

    Of course, Calvin Woodward never bothered to even glance at the basic texts of the ideologic cult he wants to whitewash…

    Disgraceful, AP, just disgraceful!!!!

  6. Jay Boo says

    Mar 13, 2016 at 4:25 pm

    AP Journalism

    Editorializing

    Posing as new reporting

  7. Jay Boo says

    Mar 13, 2016 at 5:03 pm

    Muslims and defenders of Islam mock Donald Trump. They claim that Trump is:

    A Religious Bigot
    A Buffoon
    A Sexist Pig
    An Arrogant, Self-Center Narcissist

    We need to find out “What the heck is going on?”
    Are Muslims and defenders of Islam confusing Donald Trump with Islam’s so called — Apostle of Allah Muhammad?

    • neesa says

      Mar 14, 2016 at 6:07 am

      You are very uneducated clearly

      • panmelia says

        Mar 14, 2016 at 10:50 am

        Uneducated? Oh yeah? And what are you?

        I think the only item Jay Boo left off the list describing MoMAD was psychopathic fantasist extraordinary, one of those conmen who manages to recruit weak-minded fools to believe he’s a successful god-botherer prophet.
        There are still plenty of these vermin around today, some in prison, like Jeff Lundgren who persuaded his brainwashed crew of clots to help murder a family of five. And then there’s that polygamist mormon paedophile who kept having sex with child victims – hey, remind you of anyone?
        I’ll give you this – none of the latter day cult psycho cult leaders could hold a candle to the daddy of them all, moMAD. Over 1bn captive cult captives, born into the most disgusting and evil mindwarping, self-perpetuating “religion” of them all.

        Only when a decent number of muslims with an IQ above pond life inhabitants actually wake up and ask “Why are we following the doctrine of a mad mullah that teaches us to hate everyone else because they don’t believe in this shit?”, will there be some hope of breaking the psycho’s grip.

        Maybe you’re not one of those people who can think for themselves?

      • Jay Boo says

        Mar 14, 2016 at 12:19 pm

        neesa said
        “You are very uneducated clearly”
        ——————–

        neesa
        Your sentence lacks a comma and a period.

        Hee Hee
        I bet you did not think I knew that.

  8. mortimer says

    Mar 13, 2016 at 5:26 pm

    WHAT IS THE VALUE OF A WOMAN’S LIFE ACCORDING TO ISLAM?

    In the April 9, 2002 issue, The Wall Street Journal published the concept of blood money in Saudi Arabia. If a person has been killed or caused to die by another, the latter has to pay blood money or compensation, as follows.
    100,000 riyals if the victim is a Muslim man
    50,000 riyals if a Muslim woman
    50,000 riyals if a Christian man
    25,000 riyals if a Christian woman
    6,666 riyals if a Hindu man
    3,333 riyals if a Hindu woman
    According to this hierarchy, a Muslim man’s life is worth 33 times that of a Hindu woman. This hierarchy is based on the Islamic definition of human rights and is rooted in the Quran and Sharia (Islamic law). How can we talk of democracy when the concept of equality in Islam is nonexistent?
    Inequality is a basic concept of Islam.

    • eduardo odraude says

      Mar 13, 2016 at 6:00 pm

      Correct. There is no general concept of “humanity” in Islam. Or, put differently, only a Muslim is considered “fully human.” Non-Muslims, says the Qur’an, are “the worst of creatures,” in other words, lower than dogs, rats, and pigs. Muslims are by contrast “the best of peoples.” Islam is a morally dualistic system. The Golden Rule, found in all other major ethical and religious systems, is present in Islam only among Muslims. Non-Muslims, at least for the religious Muslim, are sub-human.

      • Carolyne says

        Mar 14, 2016 at 11:05 am

        I have to say that I hold my dog Charlie in higher regard than I hold a Muslim man. He is loyal, kind and protective. Not many Mo followers can match that.

      • dumbledoresarmy says

        Mar 15, 2016 at 4:42 am

        actually, it’s only *male* Muslims who are – within the Islamic system – viewed as fully human.

        Women – not only infidel women, but all women, which includes Muslim women – are dehumanised by Islam. They are ’tilth’… fields to be ploughed. They are chattels. One of the early Muslim writers likens them to ‘domestic animals’. I think there was another Muslim ‘thinker’ (if one could call him a ‘thinker’) who argued that women (and he was talking about Muslim women) only had the ‘appearance’ of human beings.

        In a sense, the Muslim female is to the Muslim male as Dhimmis are to the Ummah.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 13, 2016 at 9:09 pm

      All true, Mortimer.

  9. Janeatte says

    Mar 13, 2016 at 5:43 pm

    I don’t understand why some Americans defend Islam,did they read their Quran or Ahadieth of Mohammad ,are they stupid. They sell their conscience to a Satan worshippers . They are ignorant they don’t want to be educated about Islam they like to get paid for their stupidity .

    • eduardo odraude says

      Mar 13, 2016 at 5:54 pm

      Defending Islam is a safe and for the most part well-rewarded activity. Publicly criticizing Islam is a dangerous and highly punished activity — you get death threats and violence from Muslims, and you get called a bigot by Muslim apologists, potentially fired from your job by employers scared of Islam or ignorant of it.

      Given those incentives and disincentives, what do you think public debate about Islam will sound like? Almost everyone will seem to be a defender of Islam, and only very few — therefore seemingly marginal — will criticize it and point out its totalitarian character. Bystanders who are not paying attention will assume that the relative paucity of critics means the critics are just fringe. But that is not so. The critics are the tip of an iceberg. The defenders of Islam should be ashamed for being happy to debate without calling attention to the fact that the debate playing field is so skewed in their favor while their opponents, the Islam critics, have to deal with death threats and violence perhaps for the rest of their lives. SHAME.

  10. eduardo odraude says

    Mar 13, 2016 at 5:47 pm

    I hereby publish a “fact check” of the claim that journalist Calvin Woodward is a moral and intelligent human being. It turns out that had he lived during the time of slavery it is a 99% probability that he would have interviewed only the Uncle Toms who loved their bondage and he would have ignored that any African who complained too much was lynched or covered with bloody stripes.

    Muhammad says beat your wife, no questions asked

    In Sunan Abu Dawud, a canonical hadith collection:

    Book 11, Number 2142:

    Narrated Umar ibn al-Khattab:

    The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: A man will not be asked as to why he beat his wife.

    Calvin Woodward, stop being a moral idiot.

    • Greyhound Fancier says

      Mar 13, 2016 at 7:13 pm

      Have you read Uncle Tom’s Cabin? Uncle Tom did not love his bondage, and in fact, he represented the unfairness of slavery inasmuch as he was the finest individual character in the book. Uncle Tom through unfortunate circumstances was sold to a cotton growing area, and eventually died defending an enslaved woman who got on the wrong side of Simon Legree. Uncle Tom was a slavery resister and hero.

      • Western Canadian says

        Mar 13, 2016 at 11:15 pm

        Unfortunately, the term ‘Uncle Tom’ was highjacked by the hard left, and turned into an insult against blacks who fail to demonstrate sufficient hatred and bigotry towards whites and other groups.

      • eduardo odraude says

        Mar 14, 2016 at 4:03 pm

        Greyhound Fancier,
        Point taken. But you get my point.

  11. Jack Holan says

    Mar 13, 2016 at 6:14 pm

    So, the Media perpetuates the Iron Shield of Protection for the Muslim World to maintain their spot in the thick of it to keep reporting the sensitive, Regime acceptable news, Islamic friendly articles no Jews wearing skull caps (Kippot) or a Star of David nor Christians wearing a cross. dont need apply. News Agencies you know what you need to do, what kind of reporters fit our profile. Even President Obama broke OUR ANTI-DISCRIMINATION LAWS and booted the Jew on a trIp to Saudi Arabia a few years back. Supposedly the Jewish Reporter pulled himself off the assignment The Press had only a blip for a day but if it had been George W or Trump, it would be day after day prime time news extending out weeks.
    Some brave Journalists as opposed to reporters have cracked the Political Muslim World and did report the truth about Protective Edge 2014 once they left Gaza and explained they were threatened with their life if they sent true stories back home. They had a totally different perspective with pictures validating Israel’s claims missiles at schools & Mosques, Command Centers at Hospitals, Residents locked in their homes to be a shield or Martyr.
    So, we arrive at a thousand year old manuscript interpreted over 1000 years with the Hadith, Sunna. Many basic parts are universally interpreted and accepted and reinterpreted validating the original interpretations; The Al AZHAR University is the premier source for Sharia and Interpretation.
    The CLASSIC, RUDE, ETHNOCENTRIC, GENDER-CENTRIC & THEOCRATIC-CENTRIC EVALUATION WOODAWARD Inputs on Muslim women would not even pass for an undergraduate Sociology Study conclusion at a Community College. Let’s visit this paraphrased statement again ‘they don’t mine (being less then men who have property rights, control over there bodies/health FGM 10 Children beatings honor killings’ Woodward they love this treatment, wouldn’t you for being devout. Oh yes, Mr. Woodward you thought they may not be ready for our freedoms. Who appointed you G-d? This reflects the arrogance of the World Leftist Movement the have a design for this World since the rest of us are too stupid,just ask Gruber

  12. Mike says

    Mar 13, 2016 at 6:17 pm

    Islam a political system that poses as a religion to take away the rights of those who will not bow to their Tyranny.

  13. Hope says

    Mar 13, 2016 at 6:34 pm

    So, the liberal media is saying that misogyny in the Islamic world doesn’t really exist because, after all, a woman was once prime minister of Pakistan? OK, then let’s follow that “logic” and declare that racism doesn’t really exist in the US because we have twice elected an African American president.

  14. gravenimage says

    Mar 13, 2016 at 9:03 pm

    AP “corrects” Trump for saying Islam treats women badly
    …………………..

    So Calvin Woodward of the Associated Press believes that considering women’s testimony and ability to inherit being half that of a man’s, forced marriage, child marriage, wife beating, marital rape, “Honor Killing”, sex slavery, and stoning of rape victims to be treating women *well*?

    One of the many, many cases where you have to hope that the speaker is merely grossly ignorant, because the alternative is much, much worse.

    Here’s more from the egregious Calvin Woodward, belittling any attempts to keep Jihad terrorists out of the US:

    “AP FACT CHECK: When truth is a casualty of terrorist fears”

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/17ca94e647a54436987642cd5b3e433d/ap-fact-check-when-truth-casualty-terrorist-fears

    And here he is, sneering at opposing the Ground Zero victory Mosque:

    “FACT CHECK: Islam already lives near ground zero”

    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2010/08/19/fact_check_islam_already_lives_near_ground_zero/

    This last is especially sick–of course Islam already “lives” near Ground Zero–if it did not, there would be no Ground Zero–just the stretch of lower Manhattan that existed before 9/11.

    One of the few times he has said anything negative about Obama, it was to sharply ask whether he has any authority to carry out strikes against the Islamic State. He has slammed Representative Pete King for holding congressional hearings on radical Islam. He was derisive about then-candidate Dr. Ben Carson for expressing opposition to the Islamic State.

    Given his consistent apologia for Islam, Woodward is either in deep willful denial about Islam, or–perhaps more likely given his appalling history–he is deliberately out to whitewash that foul creed.

    • Wellington says

      Mar 13, 2016 at 9:25 pm

      Excellent comment, gravenimage. With you again.

      For my money Woodward is just another journalistic example of what could be called the “Duranty redux phenomenon.” Woodward is an excuser and enabler of evil. A la common sense, Ayn Rand and the best of the Judeo-Christian tradition, a sin upon his head forever.

      • gravenimage says

        Mar 14, 2016 at 12:11 am

        Yes, Wellington–comparing him to the appalling apologist for Stalinism Walter Duranty is especially apt. Hugh Fitzgerald frequently cites this meretricious “journalist”.

        And you are quite right that all those defending our values should denounce this repulsive misuse of the press to sugarcoat evil.

  15. Richard Paulsen says

    Mar 13, 2016 at 10:13 pm

    It is strange to defend the muslim, islamic and Arabic speaking world, while the not muslim and Arabic speaking world is being blamed all the time.
    The Arabic speaking worldt never has to admit any feeling of guilt about islamization and invasions from Africa to Indonesia or repeated efforts to invade and islamize Europe militarily and now by claiming “asylum”.
    Noone asks the the Arabic speaking world whether they feel guilty of anything and have anything to say, ask forgiveness for or being ashamed of.
    While Germany has to feel guilty about its history, the UK as well about the British Empire, the slave trade and U.S.A. for migration to America and slave trade as well. Although arabs and Africa started the slave trade and enslaved both Africans and Europeans.
    Therefore Europe and the U.S.A. have to bow to the islamic world allowing it to spread inside their borders.
    That seems very up and down. Islam gaining ground in Europe because of the histroy of Europe having anything to do with the islamic world.
    Very puzzling. The ones not having to feel guilty have to While the ones who should, not have to.

  16. mach37 says

    Mar 14, 2016 at 4:41 am

    Calvin Woodward’s arguments are devoid of logic.Because some Muslim women accept their place under Shariah law does not negate the fact that they are treated as second class citizens, with many restrictions on what they are allowed to do.

    The fact of the US not yet having a female president has absolutely nothing to do with how Muslim males treat their women.

    Finally, if anyone brings up the Crusades again as evidence of Christian terrorism, what happened during the crusades has no bearing on the virtual non-existence of Christian terrorism in the last several hundred years.

  17. neaa says

    Mar 14, 2016 at 6:09 am

    You are all uneducated bigots. Maybe go to a mosque and spend time with Muslims and learn a little about what Islam is then you can have an opinion

    • Hope says

      Mar 14, 2016 at 9:12 pm

      We are certain that, if we went to a mosque and spent time with Muslims, we would be treated to the sanitized, whitewashed version of Islam intended for infidels to hear. To learn the real truth about Islam, we know we must get it straight from the mouth of your prophet, in the Qu’ran and the Hadith. We have read these scriptures for ourselves and gotten an eyeful of the violence and hatred he enjoyed spreading. Nice try, though.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 15, 2016 at 3:47 pm

      neaa wrote:

      You are all uneducated bigots. Maybe go to a mosque and spend time with Muslims and learn a little about what Islam is then you can have an opinion
      …………………..

      In other words, how dare we ‘filthy Infidels’ have a problem with FGM, child marriage, forced marriage, forced veiling, wife beating, sex slavery, “Honor Killing”, and the stoning of rape victims?

  18. Richard says

    Mar 14, 2016 at 6:20 am

    AP “But many Muslim women adhere to Islamic norms not out of fear or repression, but in observance of faith and their own preference.”

    They gladly submit to the veil, subjugation to the male and the denial of equality because of the observation of their faith. I guess that’s OK then and as for those that try to rebel and are beaten or killed – that’s Ok too. It would be racist to deny them their religion.

  19. Jack HOLAN says

    Mar 14, 2016 at 9:55 am

    Not one second would an American woman agree to be subservient to her mate, share him with multiple wives and sex slaves, allow beatings, , be at his beckon & call, not leave the the house unless escorted by a male blood relative always wear a Hijab or Berka, be segregated with women only at most events and I could go on and on. How many American woman will sign on on for this Woodward or AP

  20. joseph p wolfe says

    Mar 14, 2016 at 3:07 pm

    Watch the movie-The Stoning of Soraya M–Then tell me islam is great for women.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 15, 2016 at 3:48 pm

      Yes–a horrifying film. And this goes on in many parts of Dar-al-Islam. And why not? The “Prophet” himself had women stoned to death.

  21. Carolyne says

    Mar 14, 2016 at 6:51 pm

    I think that being banished from the bed of a dirty old bearded man with hair on his shoulders would not be a punishment.

  22. gravenimage says

    Mar 15, 2016 at 3:50 pm

    Just more proof that Trump was right from today’s headlines:

    “Pakistan: Major Muslim orgs say law protecting women from abuse is un-Islamic”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/03/pakistan-major-muslim-orgs-say-law-protecting-women-from-abuse-is-un-islamic

    “Nigeria: Senate rejects gender equality bill, Muslim senators say it violates Sharia”

    http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/03/nigeria-senate-rejects-gender-equality-bill-muslim-senators-say-it-violates-sharia

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