“They also say Kareem, Simpson and Soofi initially wanted to blow up the Arizona stadium where the 2015 Super Bowl was held, but when that plan failed, they set their sights on the cartoon contest….Stefan Verdugo, one of Kareem’s former roommates, testified that Kareem wanted to get revenge against people who portrayed the Prophet Muhammad in drawings and had inquired about the types of explosives that would be needed to blow up the stadium.”
He wanted revenge against the people who drew Muhammad and had inquired about the types of explosives that would be needed to blow up the stadium — apparently he was under the impression that the 2015 Super Bowl was between the New England Patriots and the Seattle Muhammad Cartoons.
Anyway, he wanted revenge against people who drew Muhammad. He wanted to kill people who drew Muhammad. In the face of that, free people have two choices: they can draw Muhammad, thereby showing that they will not submit to violent intimidation, or they can refrain from drawing Muhammad, thereby showing that they can be bullied into submission.
I am proud that I was at Garland and was one of the organizers of the event. I will never submit to bullying, and as Charb said, I would rather die standing up than live on my knees.
We live, however, in an age of prevailing cowardice, as cowards everywhere present their cowardice as “respect” and mock the courageous for their rudeness and uncouthness in not submitting along with them and daring to stand up to the murderous thugs.
“Arizona man linked to Muhammad cartoon contest attack plot convicted,” Associated Press, March 17, 2016 (thanks to Steve):
A jury on Thursday convicted an Arizona man of conspiring to support Islamic State in one of the first trials in the U.S. involving charges related to the terrorist group.
Abdul Malik Abdul Kareem also was found guilty on other counts stemming from an attack last spring at a Prophet Muhammad cartoon contest in Texas. Kareem was stoic when the verdict was read.
Authorities said Kareem bankrolled and motivated two Islamic State followers who were killed in a shootout with police while trying to carry out a rampage at the anti-Islam event in suburban Dallas.
Kareem also was convicted of providing guns used in the May 3 attack. Authorities say he and the two gunmen, Elton Simpson and Nadir Soofi, had researched travel to the Middle East to join Islamic State fighters.
It was one of the first times a person was tried in the U.S. on charges related to the group. A trial in New York recently ended with a guilty verdict against a U.S. military veteran charged with attempting to join Islamic State.
Kareem’s attorney, Daniel Maynard, declined to comment after the verdict. The U.S. attorney’s office, which prosecuted the case, had no immediate comment. Sentencing was set for June 27.
Prosecutors say Kareem hosted Simpson and Soofi at his home to discuss the plot and went target-shooting with them in the Arizona desert.
The 44-year-old moving company owner testified that he had no knowledge beforehand that his friends were going to attack the contest featuring cartoons deemed offensive to Muslims. He insisted that he didn’t even know about the event until after Simpson and Soofi were killed.
It’s unknown whether the attack was inspired by the Islamic State or carried out in response to an order from the group.
Prosecutors said Kareem tried to carry out an insurance scam to fund a conspiracy to support the Islamic State group and attempted to indoctrinate two teenage boys in his neighborhood on radical jihadism.
They also say Kareem, Simpson and Soofi initially wanted to blow up the Arizona stadium where the 2015 Super Bowl was held, but when that plan failed, they set their sights on the cartoon contest.
Kareem told jurors that he evicted Simpson from his home because he believed Simpson was putting tracking devices in his car. He also said he strongly disapproved of Simpson using Kareem’s laptop to watch al-Qaida promotional materials.
Stefan Verdugo, one of Kareem’s former roommates, testified that Kareem wanted to get revenge against people who portrayed the Prophet Muhammad in drawings and had inquired about the types of explosives that would be needed to blow up the stadium….

livingengine says
One of the most important public statements of the decade.
Keys says
Thank you, livingengine.
Eloquent and passionate statement by Robert, but most of all it is clearly the truth.
Angemon says
Bravo, Mr. Spencer! May your next elected President have even a sliver of your courage, morals and knowledge.
MaryMoo says
What is wrong with the current president? He had the courage to stand up to the senate and the 1% – does that not mean anything, or have we already forgotten about the occupy movement?
UNCLE VLADDI says
How much is Cass Sunstein paying you to troll this site, liberal cucktard?!
Oliver says
RE: The 1%–as I recall, they pay about 15% of the income taxes; the occupiers (in New York and elsewhere) were MOSTLY IF NOT TOTALLY UPPER INCOME CLASS ASSHOLES. Few (if any) were from the lowest levels; most were living off trust funds; mommy an daddy and welfare.
And, I truly doubt that any of the “occupiers” ever worked 2 days –in total–in their lives.
And, as I recall, there were numerous rapes; and 1 or 2 people were killed in New York city ( I left that place more then 35 years ago, and rarely follow anything there- and was not involved in any way with the greta unwashed).
Angemon says
Nice satire XD
gravenimage says
Did MaryMoo forget the sarc tag?
Roger Gangitano says
What’s wrong with this “President”? Think about it this way;
If Obama was the enemy, with ALL the word implies, what would he do differently?”
awake says
He does not appear Arabic, but rather African-American. The question still remains. Why do those who subscribe to the bottom-feeding ideology of Islam, always result in acts of violence against non-Muslims, that irrelevant false talking point about Muslims mostly killing Muslims, aside?
maghan says
A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Amazing that this man willingly joined the religion of the original slavers and castrators of Africans/blacks. But there is a sad precedent. The black man entered Islam as lowly slave(abd). His name was Bilal.
ECAW says
Allah refers to believers throughout the Koran as his slaves:
6:18 He is the Omnipotent over His slaves, and He is the Wise, the Knower.
8:51 This is for that which your own hands have sent before (to the Judgment), and (know) that Allah is not a tyrant to His slaves.
43:68 O My slaves! For you there is no fear this day, nor is it ye who grieve;
gravenimage says
And blacks are specifically referred to as “abd”, which means slave.
Karen says
“We live, however, in an age of prevailing cowardice…”
Yes, and I’ve been the worst coward of all, for years. But every day less and less so, having been inspired by Robert Spencer and JW. Once you get educated, and take that first step for what is right, you get braver……but in my case that would never have happened without Mr. Spencer.
Perhaps we’re not here to live safe, comfortable lives for 100 years, with all the material wealth we’ve become accustomed to. Perhaps we’re here to do greater things than that…. Robert Spencer certainly has.
Roger Gangitano says
I, too, was at the “Draw Mohammed Art Exhibition and Contest” with Pamela Geller, Robert Spencer and Gert Wilders. The event was an expression of our Constitutional Right of Free Speech. Jihadists hate that we have that Right!
I stand with Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer, and all other patriotic Americans, who would rather die on our feet than on our knees in submission to Islamic bullying.
Thank you, Robert for stating so clearly what needs to be said. I hope to see you at the next, and the next, and the next “Draw Mohammed Art Exhibition and Contest.” God bless you!
Bezelel says
I am hoping for a maximum sentence. I have always thought that conspiracy carries the same sentence as the act. This does prove that the 3 of them were determined to attack us regardless of the contest. The media hype about baiting them with a contest is pure ####.
Mickey says
“…and went target shooting with them in the Arizona desert.”
They managed to shoot a security guard in the ankle at Garland, TX.
They themselves were gunned down by a 60-year-old police officer with his service pistol. The SWAT team finished them off. I hope my facts are correct.
Anyway, Mr. Kareem didn’t do too good of a job teaching them how to shoot in the desert.
They were outgunned by someone who actually knew what he was doing—a Garland, TX cop who was directing traffic outside the event!
Oliver says
Mickey, I disagree with you. Mr Kareem did a GREAT JOB OF HOW TO SHOOT- they missed.
Only way for it to have been better-if they shot themselves. (or even better- other Muslims and themselves)
Mickey says
How did I hear it—-the 1st and 2nd Amendments were in full use that day.
Roger Gangitan says
Mickey,
Citizens attending the event in Garland were not permitted to carry firearms at the event, so the event was an expression of only the First Amendment Right of Free Speech.
If citizens were permitted to be armed, the cowardly terrorists would likely not have attacked there, as they generally choose unarmed targets.
gravenimage says
Luckily, security *was* armed–including an off-duty traffic cop who took these Jihadists down.
Roger Gangitano says
Amen!! His ejected shell casings were scattered in the street in a line from where he exited his vehicle clearly showing he was advancing toward the Jihadists as he was returning fire.
Thank you Garland Police!
mortimer says
WHERE IS ALL THE HATE COMING FROM?
mortimer says
Robert Spencer wrote: “He wanted revenge against the people who drew Muhammad and had inquired about the types of explosives that would be needed to blow up the stadium ”
Vengeance is normative Islam, rather than an aberration.
Intolerance of religious difference (bigotry) is normative Islam, rather than an aberration.
Religious-based execution (genocide) is normative Islam, rather than an aberration.
brian464 says
There is no way jihadists can win over the majority of muslims since today the overwhelming majority of the 50 different muslim countries have their own non-expansionist, non-imperial, non-colonial aspirations
FOR DETAILS ABOUT NON-MILITANT INTERVENTIONIST POLICIES AS A MUCH BETTER ALTERNATIVE TO PROFIT DRIVEN WARS OR CONFLICTS:
http://worldpeacethroughworldwidedisarmament.blogspot.com/2013/07/911-attacks-could-have-been-prevented.html
UNCLE VLADDI says
Try to re-phrase your nonsense screed:
“There is no way fascists can win over the majority of neo-Nazis since today the overwhelming majority of the 50 different Nazi countries have their own non-expansionist, non-imperial, non-colonial aspirations!”
Now try to PROVE YOUR LIES.
(Presenting entirely fact-free subjective opinions AS objective facts, is to LIE and commit public fraud).
You seem to be the second suicidally masochist fake-pacifist liberal coward to troll this site today. Is Cass Sunstein’s ministry of propaganda back online again?!
Carolyne says
Uh Oh! Brians’s back.
brian464 says
@UNCLE VLADDI, you stated : ” Try to re-phrase your nonsense screed:
“There is no way fascists can win over the majority of neo-Nazis since today the overwhelming majority of the 50 different Nazi countries have their own non-expansionist, non-imperial, non-colonial aspirations!”
Now try to PROVE YOUR LIES.”
Comment: you do know that Nazis and Fascists go to church on Sundays
Angemon says
brian464 posted:
“Comment: you do know that Nazis and Fascists go to church on Sundays”
Yeah, to loot it. But do not worry, brian – if you’re concerned with whether or not nazis go to heaven I can assure you that Hitler, who despised Christianity as an offshot of Judaism, admired islam and several Nazi war criminals converted to islam and lived long lives as muslims in muslim countries.
brian464 says
@Angemon, you stated : ” Hitler, who despised Christianity as an offshot of Judaism, admired islam ”
Comment: so christianity had no influence over Hitler while he was growing up, so
why do people keep saying that Islam always has an influence over people who are growing up in muslim countries ?
I highly doubt that Islam is more powerful than christianity in its influence
Angemon says
brian464 posted:
“There is no way jihadists can win over the majority of muslims since today the overwhelming majority of the 50 different muslim countries have their own non-expansionist, non-imperial, non-colonial aspirations”
They also have devout muslims. ISIS operates on orthodox islamic rules. You do the math.
brian464 says
@Angemon, you stated : ” They also have devout muslims. ISIS operates on orthodox islamic rules. You do the math.”
Comment: Its been about 500 years since a muslim state conquered a non-muslim state and there is no indication that is going to change since ISIS is killing more muslims than non-muslims
Angemon says
brian464 posted:
“Comment: Its been about 500 years since a muslim state conquered a non-muslim state”
Because non-muslim nations got better. Did muslim nations stopped trying during tha time? Of course not.
“and there is no indication that is going to change since ISIS is killing more muslims than non-muslims”
Correction: ISIS kills more hypocrites and apostates (muslims deemed by ISIS as not being muslim enough) than non-muslims for the simple reason there are more hypocrites and apostates (muslims deemed by ISIS as not being muslim enough) than non-muslims.
brian464 says
@Angemon, you stated : Did muslim nations stopped trying during tha time (of 500 years ) ? Of course not.
Comment: If there were any attacks during the 500 years, it was not for the purposes of spreading religion but rather
the reasons were similar to the reasons given by non-Muslim nations when non-muslim nations attacked a muslim nation during that time ( example: The British government destroying the Ottoman empire during WW1 even though the Ottoman Empire during WW1 did not attack England ).
You stated : ” Correction: ISIS kills more hypocrites and apostates ”
Comment: so you are saying that Muslims are capable of being enemies of ISIS due to their apostasy
Angemon says
brian464 posted:
“Comment: If there were any attacks during the 500 years,”
Not if. There were. and they are well documented. Remember Vienna (twice)? Lepanto? WWI?
“it was not for the purposes of spreading religion but rather
the reasons were similar to the reasons given by non-Muslim nations when non-muslim nations attacked a muslim nation during that time”
Citation needed.
“( example: The British government destroying the Ottoman empire during WW1 even though the Ottoman Empire during WW1 did not attack England ).”
The Ottomans sided with the Germans against Britain.
“Comment: so you are saying that Muslims are capable of being enemies of ISIS due to their apostasy”
No. Not by far. That’s not even in the same ball park of what I actually said, which was that ISIS kills muslims they deem to be not muslims enough, and therefore hypocrites or apostates whose blood is halal to spill. Do you see muslims in the Middle East and Africa taking up arms and fighting ISIS? Or do you see them running to Europe?
brian464 says
@Angemon, you stated : “The Ottomans sided with the Germans against Britain.”
Comment: sided with the Germans, as in , contributing military assistance to Germany ?
Angemon says
brian464 posted
“Comment: sided with the Germans, as in , contributing military assistance to Germany ?”
Sided with the Germans as in sided with the Germans. Taking the side of the Germans. Fighting alongside the Germans against, among others, the British.
brian464 says
@Angemon, you stated : ” (Ottomons) Taking the side of the Germans. Fighting alongside the Germans against, among others, the British.
Comment: So the Ottomans sided with Christian Germany while most of the muslim Arabs sided with Christian Britain against the Ottomans
Angemon says
brian464 posted:
“Comment: So the Ottomans sided with Christian Germany while most of the muslim Arabs sided with Christian Britain against the Ottomans”
Yes. Muslim-on-muslim violence, a common occurrence in history, going back to the shia-sunni split in the 7th century and all the rebelions and changing of dynasties based on religious grounds.
Do remember, brian, that your goal is to argue that attacks made by muslim-majority countries to other countries in the last 500 years had nothing to do with religion. Let me check the history books: Vienna (1529 and 1683), Cerbe (1560), Lepanto (1571), Ponza (1552), Van (1548), Dardanelles (1654, 1655, 1656, 1657), Buda (1686), Matapan (1717), Aspindza (1770), Gerontas (1825), Preveza (1911) – just to name a few. You better get started…
brian464 says
@Angemon, you stated :” Yes. Muslim-on-muslim violence, a common occurrence in history,”
Comment: Brother against brother violence has been going on, way before Islam, ever since Cain brutally killed his own brother
Angemon says
brian464 posted:
“Comment: Brother against brother violence has been going on, way before Islam, ever since Cain brutally killed his own brother”
Huh, so what? The main, if not only, cause of muslim-on-muslim violence is religion. Shias and sunnis hate each other, as they have throughout history, because of their religion. And, as I said, your goal is to argue that attacks made by muslim-majority countries to other countries in the last 500 years had nothing to do with religion. Let me check the history books: Vienna (1529 and 1683), Cerbe (1560), Lepanto (1571), Ponza (1552), Van (1548), Dardanelles (1654, 1655, 1656, 1657), Buda (1686), Matapan (1717), Aspindza (1770), Gerontas (1825), Preveza (1911) – just to name a few. You better get started…
brian464 says
@Angemon, you stated : ” Huh, so what “.
Comment: but what motivated Cain in brutally killing his own brother ? even though Cain believed in God
Angemon says
Don’t try to squirm your way out into a red herring, brian. I gave you several examples for you to prove what you set out to prove – get to it. Or did you forgot what you wrote? Here, let me refresh your memory:
Mush! Mush!
brian464 says
Angemon, you stated : ” I gave you several examples for you to prove what you set out to prove ….. let me refresh your memory:
If there were any attacks during the 500 years, it was not for the purposes of spreading religion”
Comment: If it was for spreading religion through attacks, what particular program did the Ottomans embark on in promoting Islam between 1600 and 1920s, through their attacks ?
Angemon says
Again, brian, I gave you several examples in the last 500 years time-frame. You stated, and I quote:
Start by proving that all those attacks were not for the purpose of spreading religion, and we’ll work from there.
brian464 says
@Angemon, you stated : ” Start by proving that all those attacks were not for the purpose of spreading religion, and we’ll work from there.”
Comment: Let’s assume that every attack by a Muslim country is for promoting religion and every attack by a non-Muslim country was to promote a secular agenda.
isn’t the bottom line that all attacks for secular or religious reasons are equally bad ?
Angemon says
brian464 posted:
“@Angemon, you stated : ” Start by proving that all those attacks were not for the purpose of spreading religion, and we’ll work from there.”
Comment: Let’s assume that every attack by a Muslim country is for promoting religion and every attack by a non-Muslim country was to promote a secular agenda.”
Let’s not. Let’s instead focus on what I said. I asked you to prove what said – that the attacks I mentioned were not for the purpose of spreading religion. 3,2,1, GO!!!
Unless, of course, you can’t prove what you said. In which case, you might as well say so.
brian464 says
@Angemon, you stated : ” Unless, of course, you can’t prove what you said. In which case, you might as well say so.”
Comment: Lets assume that I am wrong and you are correct, does it really matter whether an attack is for religious or secular purposes.
Attacks, whether provoked or not, are wrong for any reason
Roger Gangitano says
It’s estimated that about 8% of Germans were Nazis. Jihadists do NOT have to outnumber the non-violent Muslims to succeed. Further, many non-violent Myslins support, and take part in, “Stealth Jihad.” It is the belief of a LARGE percentage of Muslims to wage Jihad on the non-Muslim world, all the time, everywhere.
Get your head out of the sand!
brian464 says
Roger, you stated : ” It’s estimated that about 8% of Germans were Nazis. ”
Comment: Nazis still exist in the world, including in America and they contribute to a tiny portion of the 1.1 million incidents of violence in America reported every year but that does not mean Nazis are an existential threat to America or the world, right ?
FOR DETAILS ABOUT NON-MILITANT INTERVENTIONIST POLICIES AS A MUCH BETTER ALTERNATIVE TO PROFIT DRIVEN WARS OR CONFLICTS:
http://worldpeacethroughworldwidedisarmament.blogspot.com/2013/07/911-attacks-could-have-been-prevented.html
Roger Gangitano says
Brian – I meant to write that ONLY about 8% of Germans were Nazis. My point is that only a small percentage of a population is required to cause havoc and chaos. But, your reply is curious; Are you suggesting that because the Nazi party exists today, it’s a good thing? We also have The Muslim Brotherhood today. Are they acceptable to you as well, simply because they don’t represent the majority in this country?
The day before a terrorist attack, the Islamists are considered ordinary, peaceful Muslims who want nothing more than to live there lives without being suspected of being a terrorist. Then, suddenly, they strap a bomb on to their bodies, or pack the family van up with explosives, scream “Allahu-Akbar” and blow up as many innocent people as possible.
Your argument, to minimize the concerns of those who resist accepting Muslims into America with open arms as Brussels, France, Belgium and other countries have, is dangerous to our national security. As the Muslim population in a country grows, so does the chaos and civil unrest – show me an exception to this. Is there ANY country in Europe that welcomed Muslim refugees that ISN’T paying that price today? Name just one that isn’t suffering heightened civil unrest at the hands of Muslims. Just one!
I repeat;
GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND.
brian464 says
@Roger, you stated : “Are you suggesting that because the Nazi party exists today, it’s a good thing?”
Comment: i am only comparing Nazi inspired attacks in America which is tiny compared to the average of over 1.1 million violent crime incidents reported in America every year which includes over 14,000 homicides ( mostly by the use of guns which account for 10,000 to 11,000 homicides ) and countless people being maimed, disfigured, paralyzed, deformed and blinded for life.
FOR DETAILS ABOUT NON-MILITANT INTERVENTIONIST POLICIES AS A MUCH BETTER ALTERNATIVE TO PROFIT DRIVEN WARS OR CONFLICTS:
http://worldpeacethroughworldwidedisarmament.blogspot.com/2013/07/911-attacks-could-have-been-prevented.html
Roger Gangitano says
Brian – Actually, ISIS declared its Caliphate, after conquering Irag and Syaria, so 500 years is a bit inaccurate, by about 498 years.
GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND.
brian464 says
@Roger, you stated : ” ISIS declared its Caliphate, after conquering Irag and Syaria, so 500 years is a bit inaccurate, by about 498 years.”
Comment: The post is about a muslim country conquering a non-muslim country and that has not happened in about 500 years
gravenimage says
brian464 is pretending that sacralized Jihad violence is just a random part of the human condition–rather than an intrinsic part of Islam.
brian464 says
@gravenimage, you stated : ” brian464 is pretending that sacralized Jihad violence is just a random part of the human condition–rather than an intrinsic part of Islam. ”
Comment: Any religion can be a religion of peace or war, just as christian soldiers used to paint the cross on their shields before going to war with other christian nations or
just as christians can enslave black slaves or free black slaves by interpretation of their own view of christianity or
christians during the civil war killed each other by the hundreds of thousands while singing the ” Battle Hymn of the Republic ”
FOR DETAILS ABOUT NON-MILITANT INTERVENTIONIST POLICIES AS A MUCH BETTER ALTERNATIVE TO PROFIT DRIVEN WARS OR CONFLICTS:
http://worldpeacethroughworldwidedisarmament.blogspot.com/2013/07/911-attacks-could-have-been-prevented.html
Angemon says
brian464 posted:
“Comment: Any religion can be a religion of peace or war”
The what’s their purpose to begin with?
“just as christian soldiers used to paint the cross on their shields before going to war with other christian nations or”
Christianity does not give an open-ended commandment to wage war agasint people because of their faith. Islam does.
“just as christians can enslave black slaves or free black slaves by interpretation of their own view of christianity or”
Name me one Christian sect that says it’s ok to enslave people, black, white or otherwise. Christians fought, bled and died to end slavery. What did muslims do other than raping and enslaving millions of black, brown and white people?
“christians during the civil war killed each other by the hundreds of thousands while singing the ” Battle Hymn of the Republic ””
Muslims nowadays are killing other muslims while quoting from islamic texts to justify it.
brian464 says
@Angemon, you stated : ” Christianity does not give an open-ended commandment to wage war agasint people because of their faith. Islam does. ”
Comment: if a muslim does something, its because of his faith but when a christian does something, its due to his lack of faith ?
Angemon says
brian464 posted:
“@Angemon, you stated : ” Christianity does not give an open-ended commandment to wage war agasint people because of their faith. Islam does. ””
Yes, I did. And since you don’t even try to question it, I take it you know it to be the truth.
Roger Gangitano says
Angemon – Enough already with Brian sending everyone to other sites that post something else he said, which may or not be less idiotic that his comments here. Somehow, he’s been able to take this thread from the Robert Spencer common sense remarks made in Garland and get the focus of attention onto correcting his moronically ignorant thinking.
I commend you, and others, for your patience in dealing with that Troll, but I’m outta here.
brian464 says
@Roger Gangitano, you stated: ” Enough already with Brian sending everyone to other sites that post something else he said ”
Comment: Since you are concerned about preventing violence, the blog below is all about preventing both violence for religious or secular purposes ( so its not out of context ) :
http://worldpeacethroughworldwidedisarmament.blogspot.com/2013/07/911-attacks-could-have-been-prevented.html
brian464 says
@Angemon, you stated : ” Yes, I did. And since you don’t even try to question it, I take it you know it to be the truth.”
Comment: the truth is that both secular and religious ideologies can be interpreted either for good or bad.
For example, whether slaveholders quoted the New Testament regarding slavery or the Old Testament regarding slavery or the Quran regarding slavery or political ideologies regarding slavery, its the truth according to those who choose to interpret ideologies in their own way
Angemon says
brian464 posted:
“Comment: the truth is that both secular and religious ideologies can be interpreted either for good or bad.”
Informative remark: the truth is that’s BS, and you know it. Christianity does not have an open-ended commandment to wage war against non-Christians. Islam orders muslims to wage war on non-muslims.
Query: We look around and what do we see? Christians aren’t going around killing people in the name of their religion. Neither are Buddhists. Or Sikh. Or Hindus. Or Jews. Muslims, however, are not only killing people, in increasingly horrific fashion, they’re also justifying their actions with quotations from their scriptures. Do you really think anyone buys your relativistic post-modernist nonsense?
Challenge: find me one muslim-majority nation in history that gave women the same rights as men, protected religious and ethnic minorities and allowed them to freely practice their religions, and protected homosexuals and lesbians.
Remark: islam is like communism in more then one way. Specifically, both claim to be the solution to all that’s wrong with the world, and for some reason, their proponents can’t find one historical example of it working as allegedly intended…
Mirren10 says
”Comment: if a muslim does something, its because of his faith but when a christian does something, its due to his lack of faith ?”
You are *seriously* stupid. You f****** moron, there is *nothing* in the New Testament which orders, commands, or even bloody well *suggests* that Christians should murder non-Christians, or rape them, or torture them, or steal their property. The koran, on the other hand, is *replete* with **orders and commands** that muslims murder non-muslims, rape them, torture them, and steal their goods.
Bugger off, you foul, disgusting little paedophile. You’ve been outed.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/03/islamic-state-supporters-on-social-media-scream-allahu-akbar-celebrate-brussels-jihad-mass-murders/comment-page-1#comment-1404062
brian464 says
@Mirren10, you stated : ” there is *nothing* in the New Testament which orders, commands, or even bloody well *suggests* that Christians should murder non-Christians,”
Comment: So when a Christian does commit violence, what influences him ?
What influences a criminal Christian ? the Old Testament or the mention in the New Testament regarding the capital punishment of disobedient children ?
gravenimage says
The witless brian464 wrote:
There is no way jihadists can win over the majority of muslims since today the overwhelming majority of the 50 different muslim countries have their own non-expansionist, non-imperial, non-colonial aspirations
……………………..
Jihad is normative Islam.
More:
http://worldpeacethroughworldwidedisarmament.blogspot.com/2013/07/911-attacks-could-have-been-prevented.html
……………………..
This is where he claims that if only we disarm completely, that violent and supremacist Muslims will–somehow–decide not to continue attacking us. Uh huh…
Mirren10 says
I don’t know if you remember, graven, but a few years ago, we had a troll commenting under the name of ‘peter’.
I’m sure ‘brian464’ is the same one. The robotic style, the insane moral equivalencing, and the same pathetic website; ‘peace will come when we all unilaterally disarm’, or some rubbish like that.
He’s also been posting vomit making videos about the ‘kindness’ of mohammedans to travellers, whereby they randomly invite a weird looking bloke to join in a wedding feast, and mohammedans in Malaysia look after a couple of backpackers. Blech. 🙁
brian464 says
@Mirren10, you stated : ” ……… ‘peace will come when we all unilaterally disarm ”
Comment: Before I address your concerns, let me address why Mr Spencer has lifted the ban on me.
Robert Spencer wants to live up to his promise to muslims and non-muslims that “non-violent speech should not be censored” .
thank you Mr Spencer for letting me back in because you and I believe that free speech is the key to peace between muslims and non-muslims.
Now to address your concerns:
The blog does say to follow President Reagan’s “trust but verify” program so it is not unilateral and if you need the link again, here is it :
http://worldpeacethroughworldwidedisarmament.blogspot.com/2013/07/911-attacks-could-have-been-prevented.html
Angemon says
brian464 posted:
“Comment: Before I address your concerns, let me address why Mr Spencer has lifted the ban on me.
Robert Spencer wants to live up to his promise to muslims and non-muslims that “non-violent speech should not be censored” .”
You were banned because you promoted violence. Is that it?
brian464 says
@Angemon, you stated : ” You were banned because you promoted violence. Is that it?”
Comment: I have always abided by what Jesus said: “blessed are the Peacemakers” even though Jesus was surrounded by terrorist Romans and that is why people accuse me of
not speaking out of against Nazism or Japanese imperialism but like Jesus who only accused the Jewish leadership and not the terrorist Romans, I have been accused of only accusing the
US government’s imperial and cruel expansion beyond the 13 United States across North America, the Caribbean, the Pacific and ending in the extremely cruel occupation of the Philippines while
poor blacks were enslaved in the homeland.
So the question one has to ask is: why did Jesus only accuse His own Jewish leadership and not the terrorist Romans ? do you know why ?
Angemon says
You are not answering my question, brian464. You were banned because you promoted violence. Is that it? Yes or No?
“poor blacks were enslaved in the homeland.”
By black and Arab muslims. Long before the US existed.
brian464 says
@Angemon, you stated : ” You are not answering my question, brian464. You were banned because you promoted violence. Is that it? Yes or No? ”
Comment: Not violence but the number of pro-peace replies per hour overwhelmed the “Jihad Watch” community.
I got banned because I was replying to comments as they came, sometimes one pro-peace reply every 15 minutes over a 8 hour period, so
the entire Jihad Watch community rose up against me due to the number of pro-peace replies per hour since
the Jihad Watch community is not interested in the pro-peace agenda
Angemon says
brian464 posted:
“I got banned because I was replying to comments as they came, sometimes one pro-peace reply every 15 minutes over a 8 hour period, so”
Query: So, you were a spammer?
Speculation: And a paid one with fixed working hours, by the sound of it…
“the entire Jihad Watch community rose up against me due to the number of pro-peace replies per hour since”
Informative remark: No one likes spammers.
Mirren10 says
”Comment: Before I address your concerns, let me address why Mr Spencer has lifted the ban on me”
If Robert banned you, and you’ve managed to slither your way back on, it’s because you’ve got a new email address and moniker. You’re wasting your time. No-one here is interested in your bs.
Bugger off and bore the pants off people somewhere else.
brian464 says
@Mirren10, you stated : ” If Robert banned you, and you’ve managed to slither your way back on,”
Comment: the following muslim website is following Mr Spencer’s good example of not censoring non-violent free speech:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=36282
dlbrand says
“I would rather die standing up than live on my knees.
“We live, however, in an age of prevailing cowardice, as cowards everywhere present their cowardice as “respect” and mock the courageous for their rudeness and uncouthness in not submitting along with them and daring to stand up to the murderous thugs.”
Amen, Robert, amen.
Jay Boo says
Never forget that — Islam is a JOKE
A beheading here and there is intended to give us fear.
But, who are these menacing Muslims — truly?
What we call a Kindergarten, dirty old Muslim men who wear long Man-Dresses with no underpants call a place to search for a prospective bride per the ‘perfect’ example of Islam’s buffoon founder Muhammad. Islam may be despicable but as a religion it is truly a JOKE — (a very sick JOKE).
Still, we must watch our step to avoid the freshly laid piles of Islam beneath our feet with their clinging stench.
—————————————————-
Good Morning Muslim world —
Come on out of the dark
Muhammad has got you lost
Shake, shake, shake a leg
Shake the devil off
Wakeup says
I feel sure that this man will not be executed so he will be a high cost inmate for the rest of his life. How many of these guys are the taxpayers going to support. He has been convicted by due process of law off the guy and he will be forgotten about by the weekend.
duh_swami says
Executions cost more than life in prison…The reasons are endless appeals and lawyers cost more than prison guards…
Mirren10 says
Very true, duh swami.
But that needs to be * changed*. One appeal, only, and if that fails, *immediate* execution.
Oliver says
Mirren, I agree-look at the creep ( going back to the early 1950’s)- the man who tried to assassinate President Truman, in Miami, FL.
Trial was within a couple of weeks (2 if I remember correctly), found guilty, and executed within another two or three weeks. Should be easily checked.
Richard Paulsen says
Thé U. S. A. importing murderous problem.
Europe is the same, so there is no room for moralizing.
Florida Jim says
Deport everyone who is illegal or out to behead us.Obama and Hillary are trying to flood America with new democrats who will build nice cities like Detroit, Chicago, Cleveland, Baltimore, Washington D.C., LA, New York, St. Louis, Atlanta, Philadelphia….oh, wait that is a list of the hellholes democrats created since 1965.Hellholes is all they offer it appears making race-baiter and politicians multi-millionaires while keep constituents under their thumb forever.
Rick says
They should put anyone convict of supporting jihad in solitary confinement for the duration of the jail sentence and only feed them pork. Maybe the will starve to death. And it wouldn’t be the governments fault for starving them
Carolyne says
Or, maybe they will learn to like pork and convert to a civilized being.
WorkingClassPost says
There is a certain inevitability about this story, they were already planning attacks, and just switched target to the Garland event.
So a French cartoonist inspired American muzzies to kill American civilians, nothing new here, we may say, but it does raise one fundamental question:-
How many innocent American lives we’re saved by the Draw Shitface Event?
It’s clear, that had it not been for Garland, those guys would’ve attacked somewhere and sometime else, and perhaps been better equiped and better trained (at the very least, they would have had more practise on the range). The other venue might not have had such a competent trafiic officer to pop the assailants, so how many would they have killed?
Mr Trump and they rest of America’s ‘Don’t Blaspheme the Butcher’ brigade, need to reflect on that for a moment.
Perhaps their next target would have been the Presidential Primaries?
ECAW says
Good point.
Keys says
Yes. Robert’s speech at the event needs to be heard by Trump (maybe Carson could get him to see it) and Bill O’Reilly, who needs to put it on his fair and balanced no spin zone for discussion.
steve says
Muslims just need to be ‘civilised’ Josh Billings, born 1818, suggested the at the best way to civilise the brutal, border Indian was’ from 300 yards with a sharp’s rifle…..200 years later ..same blood thirsty thugs,different head dress.
TheBuffster says
They certainly are human. Only humans have the kind of minds that can get so screwed up.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Like any liberal, he needed an excuse to objectify someone or something to project his innate self-hatred onto, so he decided “insulting prophit Moe” was worth killing for.
I’m still bitterly disappointed in Trump for accepting such shallow excuses for murder.
T. K. Field says
I am proud to have attended the Garland event last May. Thanks for the tickets Robert. It was informative relevant and well produced.The speakers were all articulate and made total sense.The winning image by Bosch Fawstin is easily the most important piece of political art since Picasso’s Guernica. This event saved countless lives. If it hadn’t been the contest it would have been some other mass murder opportunity. Probably one with no security, let alone the massive amount in Garland that day. You guys were prepared and it made all the difference. Keep up the good work. I’m gratified and relieved this Jihadi has been convicted. I was starting to get a little worried there.
Carolyne says
I agree that they are not human, but humanoid. I think that when that branch of early man went to the east to the deserts, they failed to continue to evolve and are the same today–little better, if any, than Neanderthals. (With apologies to Neanderthals.)
Adding to that is first cousin breeding which produces mentally defective offspring. Ninety percent of Pakistanis who are married are married to their first cousins. Muslims have never produced anything worthwhile, not in science, art, literature, etc. With their religion teaching them only violence and sex, they have learned nothing else. They are incapable of doing so.
I consider Ms. Gellar and Mr. Spencer two of the bravest people alive. Also Mr. Wilder. Few dare speak up in opposition to Islam because one takes one’s live in their hands due to the vicious and violent nature of Islam. I wish I were as brave.
I appreciate them upholding our First Amendment right to free expression. I fear that with the next Supreme Court Justice, we will no longer have that right.
Roger Gangitano says
“In understanding the concept of government in Islam, one needs to first understand the nature of the religion. Islam is a “total way of life.” It has provided guidance in every sphere of life, from individual cleanliness, rules of trade, to the structure and politics of the society. Islam can never be separated from social, political, or economic life, since religion provides moral guidance for every action that a person takes.” (Islam.com)
So the “Religion” of Islam is also a “Political Islam.” If we accept Religious Islam, we must accept the Political Islam. Muslims will not stand idly by while non-Muslims try to separate “Islam- the religion” from “Islam – the Political.” They cannot separate the two, and neither can the non-Muslim world.
But, “Islam-The Religion” is perfectly unacceptable in my view. Muslims can pray 5-times a day, without offending me. (Although their blaring Call to Prayer I can do without.) Muslims can face any direction the choose when they pray, without offending me, but I feel sticking their asses up toward everyone else is a bit rude. Muslims can believe Mohammed was better than sliced bread or the microwave without offending me, although I REALLY like sliced bread – Mohammed, not so much.
Islam-The Political”, on the other hand, IS unacceptable to me. I do NOT accept that our government must be governed by an Islamic ruler (a Calif) and I do not accept that the Rule of Law should be the Shariah. I do NOT accept that the hand and foot be cut off of a convicted thief. (Sura Al-Ma’ida:38 (5:38) “And (as for) the male thief and the female thief, cut off (from the wrist joint) their (right) hands as a recompense for that which they committed, a punishment by way of example from Allâh. And Allâh is All-Powerful, All-Wise.”
And I do NOT accept that non-Muslims must willingly pay a poll tax (Jizyya) for not being Muslim. (Quran 9:29) “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.”)
This political, inseparable part of islam, is unacceptable and is contradictory to our way of life. It is Political Islam that mandates the destruction of our Constitutional Rights and laws AND our way of life and substituting the Islamic way of life in its place.
Advocating the overthrow of our government, our way of life, IS PROHIBITED by “18 U.S. Code § 2385 – Advocating Overthrow of Government” and it is for this reason Islam should be prohibited in the USA. It advocates the dominance of Islam over the US Government – the overthrow of our government – and is therefore, ILLEGAL.
Now, if Brian, or any other Apologist for Islam, wants to take part in an INTELLIGENT discussion of the facts, I advise they come armed to this “gunfight” with more that a slingshot. If not …..
GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND.
Roger Gangitano says
Opps – Paragraph 3 – I meant to say “But, “Islam-The Religion” is perfectly acceptable in my view.” not Unacceptable. sorry. Replies in here apparently can’t be edited.
Roger Gangitano says
Brian – I see a notice from Facebook that you replied to my last post, but I don’t see it posted here, so I’ll restate the exchange for those following your inept effort to defend Islam.
I used Iraq and Syria as an example of a Muslim nation conquering another Muslim state within the last 500 years. You Ignored most of what I said and focused on the dialog calling for a Muslim nation conquering a NON-Muslim state within the last 500 years. – – Mea-Culpa, Mea Culpa, Mea Maxima Culpa!
Try this one – The Ottoman Empire (Muslim) was the state responsible for the Armenian (Christian) Genocide, which began in 1915 and continued through the early 1920’s. I don’t intend on giving you a history lesson here, but the net effect of the Ottoman era of that time, is summed up in the violent transformation (Conquering) of historic Armenia (Christian) into present day Turkey (Muslim). That’s within the last 100 years.
Islam is currently in the process of conquering European nations by immigration and higher birth rates. Islamic religious and political leaders, BOTH, have said they will conquer Europe in this way, without firing a shot or raising a sword. They aren’t quire done there yet, and the US isn’t more than a decade behind, so stay tuned.
I warned you, and other Apologists for Islam, not to come to a “gunfight” armed with only a slingshot – and you came back with Twinkies as your ammo.
The one common denominator in almost all the chaos and turmoil in the world today, and thought a good part of history, is Islam. It doesn’t have exclusive rights to ALL the chaos and turmoil in the world throughout history, but it certainly is a major shareholder.
GET YOUR HEAD OUT OF THE SAND.
And pass me some of your ammo – it’s only good for satisfying my snack craving.
brian464 says
@Roger Gangitano, you stated :” your inept effort to defend Islam.”
Comment: Go to this link where I am not defending Islam : http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=36282
gravenimage says
“Answering Christianity” is a supremacist Muslim site:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm
brian464 says
@gravenimage, you stated : ” “Answering Christianity” is a supremacist Muslim site:
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac.htm”
Comment: So far the “Answering Christianity” website is following Mr Spencer’s good example of not censoring free speech, so they have been good to me as you can see by my posts there :
http://www.answering-christianity.com/blog/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=36282