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Denmark: 16-year-old girl, convert to Islam, charged with planning jihad attacks on two schools, one Jewish

Mar 8, 2016 7:34 am By Robert Spencer

When was the last time you heard about a convert to Christianity or any other religion plotting terror attacks in the name of his or her new religion and in accord with its teachings? When was the last time you heard about a devout Christian giving a new convert a manual for bomb-making? Yet despite the recurring phenomenon of converts to Islam being involved in jihad terror plotting, authorities remain absolutely incurious about this, and have taken no steps whatsoever to counter it.

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“Danish girl (16) charged with ‘planning terrorist attack,'” Independent.ie, March 8, 2016:

A 16-year-old Danish girl has been charged with planning a “terrorist” attack on two schools, one of them Jewish, after acquiring chemicals for bombs, police said on Tuesday.

A police press release said the girl’s 24-year-old friend, who local media have said was a former fighter in Syria, had also been charged with complicity in preparing the bombs.

Danish broadcaster TV2 said the girl had recently converted to Islam. She was arrested on Jan. 13 and her friend the following day, accused of, among other things, having provided the girl with manuals for bombs.

Both have pleaded not guilty. They have not been named by the authorities or media, according to Danish practice….

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  1. Bask says

    Mar 8, 2016 at 7:38 am

    Religion of peace in action.

  2. Dave Flang says

    Mar 8, 2016 at 7:42 am

    “When was the last time you heard about a convert to Christianity or any other religion plotting terror attacks in the name of his or her new religion and in accord with its teachings?”

    That’s a dumb question. Have ever heard of the Inquisition?

    • Angemon says

      Mar 8, 2016 at 8:28 am

      There are no dumb questions, there are just dumb people like you who speak without knowledge of the subject.

      • Stewart Davies says

        Mar 9, 2016 at 4:55 am

        Absolutely spot on, Angemon. The more abysmally ignorant they are, the more they think they know. And this guy thinks he’s said something really profound. Ignorance is bliss!

    • Keith says

      Mar 8, 2016 at 9:00 am

      What has the inquisition got to do with new converts to a religion?
      I am asuuming you are meaning the Spanish inquisition, which actually took place at the end of the reconquest of the Iberian peninsula and was a way of ensuring that those muslims who remained and converted actually did do what they said (convert to christianity) rather than using Taqiyya to make it look as if they had. Yes I know it was also used to get at heretics in general but it was hundreds of years ago can’t you find anything more recent like in living memory?
      Why didn’t you bring up the crusades they are even further back that would have been a real coup for you wouldn’t it

      • Atheist7 says

        Mar 8, 2016 at 9:29 am

        Yes, fortunately, the Jews and the Christians have rejected the violence of the “give me that old-time religion”. There is also the birth of a new religion called “Cafeteria Catholicism” whereby you can select and choose which of the various doctrines you choose to follow and they consider transubstantiation – well – too much to swallow.
        Getting back to reality – the reality is that modern Muslims are not rejecting their “old time religion” and that is the problem.

        • Mo says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 11:20 am

          @ Atheist7

          “Yes, fortunately, the Jews and the Christians have rejected the violence of the “give me that old-time religion”. ”

          Neither Judaism nor Christianity have any open ended commands for believers to commit any violence against unbelievers. That’s why there are no Jews or Christians committing such acts, all over the world, on a regular basis, in obedience to such commands.

          (That’s why you and all the rest of the anti-theists feel free to spread such lies in public, as though it’s just commonly accepted fact. You know neither Jews nor Christians will threaten you or harm you for spreading such lies.)

        • Atheist7 says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 12:08 pm

          Good work Mo.

          You have nailed the fundamental distinction between Jews, Christians, and Muslims:
          “Neither Judaism nor Christianity have any open ended commands for believers to commit any violence against unbelievers.” (not bad thinking for a Theist!)

        • Jay Boo says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 11:22 am

          Looking at the timeline of events.
          The Muslims were booted out.
          Wasn’t the Inquisition on some level an over-reaction against many people who were thought to be in collaboration with Muslims after Muslims were forcefully removed? While anti-Semitism likely played a part, Jews were not the only victim of the inquisition’s loyalty tests.

        • Jay Boo says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 11:23 am

          Beware of opportunistic demagogues everywhere..

        • Mo says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 4:41 pm

          @ Atheist7

          “You have nailed the fundamental distinction between Jews, Christians, and Muslims:
          “Neither Judaism nor Christianity have any open ended commands for believers to commit any violence against unbelievers.”

          So you agree that you were spreading falsehoods in your prior comment with:

          ““Yes, fortunately, the Jews and the Christians have rejected the violence of the “give me that old-time religion”. ”

          (not bad thinking for a Theist!)

          Take your smarmy condescension elsewhere.

        • Atheist7 says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 9:19 pm

          Mo,

          1. I said: ““Yes, fortunately, the Jews and the Christians have rejected the violence of the “give me that old-time religion”. ”

          2. You said: “Neither Judaism nor Christianity have any open-ended commands for believers to commit any violence against unbelievers”

          So I was saying that the old religion of the Old Testament was violent and now both the Jews and the Christians have rejected that violence. Your statement expresses the same idea – but goes beyond the simple violence versus non-violence to show why the current religions of Judaism and Christianity are non-violent and implies (correctly) that Islam is violent because it does have open-ended commands of violence to be done to non-believers. I like your phraseology. It captures a good thought in a few words.

        • Champ says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 5:32 pm

          Atheist7 wrote:

          Good work Mo.

          You have nailed the fundamental distinction between Jews, Christians, and Muslims:
          “Neither Judaism nor Christianity have any open ended commands for believers to commit any violence against unbelievers.” (not bad thinking for a Theist!)

          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

          Cloak ‘n dagger alert!

          On the surface it looks like “Atheist7” is offering a genuine compliment, but then he ends with this belittling remark in paranthesess: “(not bad thinking for a Theist!)”

          I guess by using paranthesess he’s attempting to *soften* his nasty remark, but nevertheless his put-down came through loud and clear.

          Oftentimes I notice that *some* atheists on JW, like “Atheist7”, feel the strange need to make rude remarks toward Christians — when they are not the enemy! Christians are not the ones instructed by God to commit murder and mayhem in the name of allah (satan).

          “Atheist7” would do well to take aim at the real enemy: islam & company. This is Jihad Watch, not Christian Watch.

        • Champ says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 5:48 pm

          ps …

          And what’s really odd about “Atheist7’s” belittling remark toward Mo is that he *does* acknowledge that Christianity is NOT a violent religion. He wrote:

          “You have nailed the fundamental distinction between Jews, Christians, and Muslims: ‘Neither Judaism nor Christianity have any open ended commands for believers to commit any violence against unbelievers.'”

          And yet, “Atheist7” still felt the need to end his offering with a belittling remark; apparently so Mo wouldn’t get the mistaken idea that he was in any way befriending her–oh goodness he can’t have that.

          “Atheist7” has demonstrated just how disengenuous a person can be …

          C’mon “Atheist7”, stop with the stupid wisecracks. We need to band together; since none of us have the time or energy for such silly nonsense. You need to focus on the real enemy: islam & company.

        • Jay Boo says

          Mar 9, 2016 at 2:41 am

          Champ is correct
          ““(not bad thinking for a Theist!)””

          No need to do a sniff test on that one by Atheist7, I could smell the typical hypocritical smug atheistic arrogance of “I am so much smarter than believers” stink two articles away.

          I must go now.
          I can only hold my breath so long.

        • Atheist7 says

          Mar 9, 2016 at 4:54 am

          To Jay Boo and Champ: Sorry guys, but your hypersensitivity is irrational. If I have to be so careful to vet every word that I say I won’t be able to accomplish my mission. I did not realize that you theists were so delicate. It is like I have to tread on eggs. It is like trying to discuss a topic with a Muslim and I am fearful that I might be offending Muhammad or Allah. Or perhaps there is another reason: You are not confident in your own theology! I was not aware of how easily you can be pained, annoyed, and have your feelings hurt. But not to worry. This is a learning experience for me. And what is going on in your mind is very important – because the same thing is going on in the mind of the Muslim – beliefs that are imposed on you by your religious training and then an irrational attack on anyone that might insult you our your religion – even if that “attack” is unintentional.

          I will not be posting to you in the future. I will save my writing efforts to those who are able to focus in issues and not on trivia.

    • Mo says

      Mar 8, 2016 at 9:52 am

      @ Dave Flang

      “That’s a dumb question. Have ever heard of the Inquisition?”

      What’s dumb is your statement and attempt to equate Islam with some form of “Christianity”, while at the same time knowing full well you have never read EITHER the Bible or the Quran. Now that’s dumb.

      Thanks for the laugh!

    • Con Ken says

      Mar 9, 2016 at 11:38 am

      Inquisition did not make bombs and blow up schools idiot. And obviously they were speaking in the last 500 years or more.
      Also Catholics r not the only Christians in this day and age.
      This is soooo stupid, how a Muslim caN Bring up something that had nothing to do with them.
      Sorry the old Inquisition attack just doesn’t work in this day and age, especially since 4 days ago 4 nuns and elderly Muslims were all slaughter in an old folks home!

  3. worldcitizen1919 says

    Mar 8, 2016 at 7:53 am

    Somewhere here there’s a massive failure in the education system in the west.

    We Baha’is are the largest religious minority in Iran but do you read or hear anywhere of Baha’is being recruited for terrorist attacks? Or even being covered to Islam despite torture. Persecution and oppression of all sorts.

    This is because our educational system is strong enough to make sure that our people are not vulnerable to such persuasion.

    Yet in the west young some people almost voluntarily rush to the aid of terrorists!!

    What are they teaching or NOT teaching children/youth in the west that they are so vulnerable to this sort of exploitation??

    Muslims have tried to break us to submit to them for over 170 years with complete 100% faulure.

    No Bahai child can be exploited by Muslims because our children know good from evil.

    • Atheist7 says

      Mar 8, 2016 at 8:33 am

      So your religion appears to be basically good, with emphasis on service to others and the existence of an immortal soul.
      http://www.bahai.org/beliefs/life-spirit/

      That’s nice however, the real question is how is it possible for your religious indoctrination to be so powerful that it is able to override the Islamic programming?

      • worldcitizen1919 says

        Mar 8, 2016 at 9:29 am

        That’s an excellent question and I thank you for your kind comments.

        Baha’i youth and children receive a comprehensive moral & spiritual education and are taught to be ‘vigilant’.

        Also, Baha’i programs offer a rich vision, meaning and purpose for life that embraces all humanity and when one has this world embracing vision it renders terrorist recruiters ineffective as they prey upon the disillusioned and unfulfilled.
        .
        Baha’is have programs for children and youth that are offered free for all humanity and these sorts of programs would protect a child from being recruited by a terrorist because they give a positive vision and meaning and purpose to ones life which most children and youth don’t get from an academic education and which terrorists exploit by offering a ‘vision and meaning’ even if it is evil.

        Here’s an example of how we create such a loving environment amongst all people Bahai or not that people feel fulfilled and do not become disillusioned but full of hope and positiveness.

        When kids and youth are so happy and fulfilled like this they don’t even attract terrorists who seek out the hopeless and disillusioned.

        http://www.bahai.org/frontiers/

        These Bahai programs are beginning to be adopted by governments because of the effect they’re having on children and youth’s characters. The courses teach virtues and things like service to the community and humanity. Children are ‘indoctrinated’ to love all humanity and want to serve it and bring peace and unity to the world and to shun all conflict and violence.

        • Pumbar says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 9:58 pm

          You need to do an impressive movie montage of all that, with you meditating on a rock by the sea, balancing on one leg in a forest whilst wearing a b’ahai headband and maybe running barefoot through shingle along a rivermouth. You could set it to a tune like, “live to win, till you die”, by Paul Stanley.

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 10:59 pm

          Loved it! Thanks very much for that!

        • andrew sapia says

          Mar 9, 2016 at 4:57 am

          how many b’ahai world wide, I doubt very much that you will ever be anything but a minority religion in the world. Since you accept Muhammad as a prophet the least we can do is thank you for not raping, murdering, thieving, lying, and conquering, thanks.

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 9, 2016 at 5:27 am

          Thank you very, very much for being fair to us. We are not involved in any of thos activities but work day and night for an end to wars and violence.

          As to numbers.

          Christianity only began with 12 and look how its influence has spread. The Bahai Faith began with 19 and we are working very hard for all humanity so that suffering, wars and violence can be replaced with tolerance, universal brotherhood, peace and unity.

      • Con Ken says

        Mar 9, 2016 at 12:13 pm

        Ahhhh thought u were not going to post any more athiest 7? Still on your “mission”?
        Ignore the so not witty athiest Iranian, for u do bring up a valid point, why is some Western children so easily swade to Islamic terrorism?
        I think it is our failure in western society to go from conservative values to hypersensitive liberal policies and taught that not to agree is not PC, or political correctness.
        This has been going on now strong since the 1980’s.
        What is really disarming is the hyjacking of the feminist movement by feminist extremist that in the last few years have turned the feminist movement in a great ” U TURN” to our female doom.
        What I’m talking about is feminist extremist leaders that are, and I swear this is true cause I went to a ralley recently, these stupid women, mostly white upper class, are actually FOR the hijab, the abay, and niqab, I also saw on Democratic site HILLARY Clinton begging for campaign money from the Saudis by publicly agreeing that Sharia courts in California should triump California judicial system.
        I was so shocked, I fell off my chair.
        This is the absolute reverse of the feminist movement of the 1960’s and earlier movements all the way to early England.
        It was absolutely nauseating to me.
        Hijacked is the only word I can use to describe what has happened to the movement that gave women the rights for voting, same pay-same job, promotion equality for same I b experience.
        Right for women NOT to have to cover our bodies from head to toe because men can not control themselves- we fought for men to be accountable for their actions, and be prosecuted if they don’t.
        But these rich white feminist extremist is trying to sell to the youngest of women, that it’s a woman’s choice…
        Ahhhh no, it’s centuries of brainwashing from men from Muslim background that say they can’t control themselves and blame women if they don’t cover themselves, that if they rape it’s the woman’s fault!
        These rich feminist want MUSLIM MONEY to back their campaigns or charities. They don’t care about women rights!
        A Muslim woman who advocates not to wear the hijab, told me personally why it’s pushed. So listen up!
        She said that to wear this face covering and robe, it is to remind the woman to get back, in meditation , to go back all the way to when the woman is born, when she was pure and innocent, when she had her hymen and clean thoughts. A woman who is married and has had sex is reborn each time she goes back in her mind if puity of her rebirth, so when her husband takes her she is spiritually a virgin, and HE WILL BE PLEaSED with her… GET IT?
        It’s a man’s game, to make a woman feel unclean , unworthy, if she can not be cleansed with purity.
        Okay, when I was told this I was floored.
        There is no way u can put back your hymen!
        Muslim men brainwashing always has a sexual dominating over women push.
        You and I know, there is no way some woman after banging sex, is going to feel she needs to meditate to feel she has her hymen again. That’s a Muslim male or more like a iman that is pushing that garbage.

        • Atheist7 says

          Mar 9, 2016 at 12:40 pm

          What? A post to me devoid of any atheist Bashing?? How very refreshing! But don’t you think that you are letting, Jan Boo, Champ, Western Canadian, Dr. Divinity and many others down? Shouldn’t you be bashing Atheists at every possible opportunity?

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 9, 2016 at 1:59 pm

          A lot has to do with vision and purpose and meaning in life. Baha’is have a deep seated culture to ‘serve’ humanity so anyone coming along wanting to destroy it hasn’t got a hope in the world.

          Whereas a person who is disillusioned with society and western values in general and is seeking a vision and purpose in life is vwey vulnerable to a terrorist walking up and offering them a ‘vision’ of a better world. They would couch it in language that is appealing and gradually brainwash them and convincing them that in order to create a better world the old world must be destroyed.

          But to someone who is a lover of humanity and is teaching children and youth virtues and morals and sees hope and a wonderful vision and have a goal of establishing world peace ,they are immune to such negativeness because their lives are so rich and meaningful.

          If I posted this before forgive me. It’s our program to rejuvenate humanity via spiritual and moral education of children, youth and adults and many people take part who are not Baha’is because they don’t want their children going to drugs etc

          Its called Frontiers of Learning .

          http://www.bahai.org/frontiers/

    • Angemon says

      Mar 8, 2016 at 8:34 am

      worldcitizen1919 posted:

      “Somewhere here there’s a massive failure in the education system in the west.”

      Nope. That would be in the East – well, islamic countries in general.

      “Yet in the west young some people almost voluntarily rush to the aid of terrorists!!”

      Where in other countries terrorists are trained in schools.

      “No Bahai child can be exploited by Muslims because our children know good from evil.”

      Ah, so you refuse to acknowledge muhammad as a prophet?

      • worldcitizen1919 says

        Mar 8, 2016 at 9:45 am

        Thanks for your comments.

        There is a deficiency somewhere because if we look at the persecution of Baha’is in Iran for over 170 years, why can’t they get the Baha’is to convert to Islam? They have used every form of torture conceivable to man but the Baha’is will not relent.

        If children and youth in western countries had this vision and meaning and purpose in life they might not be so easily recruited by terrorists who exploit the disillusioned and hopeless and those who have no vision of meaning in life.

        Baha’is accept all faiths and are a non violent Faith that seeks an end to hatred and war caused by religions. We accept Muhammad but that another Messenger called Baha’u’llah has come to abolish holy war and violence in religion.

        • Atheist7 says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 9:53 am

          There is no way that you can accept Muhammad and reject violence. Muhammad’s religion was spread by violence. His religion is based on violence. This is well-documented.

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 9:58 am

          We follow the teachings of Baha’u’llah which are non violent not the Qursn.

          We only accept that Muhammad and thenQuran were for a past age but not for today.

          All Baha’is beliefs centre around world peace and one human family. We are not Muslims. We are a new religion.

          http://www.bahai.org/beliefs/essential-relationships/one-human-family/

        • Mo says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 9:54 am

          @ worldcitizen1919

          You, again?

          “We accept Muhammad but that another Messenger called Baha’u’llah has come to abolish holy war and violence in religion.”

          Oh, so you also follow the warlord, terrorist, murderer, sex slave owner and child rapist, Mohammad?

          Then you are part of the problem.

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 10:04 am

          Yes me again. Sorry!

          We follow Baha’u’llah and His Teachings. And that Muhammad and the Quran were for a previous age some 1300 years ago.

          We’re a non violent religion and do not follow the laws of the Quran but the laws of Baha’u’llah.

          We are a peaceful people and religion.

          http://www.bahai.org/beliefs/universal-peace/

        • Mo says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 10:33 am

          @ worldcitizen1919

          “We follow Baha’u’llah and His Teachings. And that Muhammad and the Quran were for a previous age some 1300 years ago.”

          Oh, so you agree Mohammad was a warlord, terrorist, murderer, sex slave owner and child rapist. And yet you still acknowledge him as some sort of “prophet”.

          Thanks for clearing that up.

        • Angemon says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 8:17 pm

          worldcitizen1919 posted:

          “There is a deficiency somewhere because if we look at the persecution of Baha’is in Iran for over 170 years, why can’t they get the Baha’is to convert to Islam? They have used every form of torture conceivable to man but the Baha’is will not relent.”

          So no bahai anywhere ever converted to islam? Pull my other leg… And you might want to check history going far back than 170 years, you’ll find stories of, for example, Christians martyrs that suffered horrific tortures and death for refusing to convert to islam. Acting like the bahai developed some sort of immunity to islamic dawah requires a willing ignorance of everyone who fought to drive islam from their lands. The French, the Italians, the Greeks, the Spaniards and the Portuguese did that, despite all odds. What do the bahai have to show for themselves on that regard other than nearly two centuries of, at best, not being openly discriminated against? And this while having a comparatively easier life than non-muslims in muslims lands, for example, 300 years ago – neither you, nor your parents, nor your grandparents, nor their grandparents ever had to pay the jizyah, being slapped on the neck and having your beard pulled while being spat in the face, did you?

          The taking of a religion, islam or otherwise, is NOT the failure of a secular, non-religious institution. Otherwise, we’d see droves of scores of students doing it.

          “If children and youth in western countries had this vision and meaning and purpose in life they might not be so easily recruited by terrorists who exploit the disillusioned and hopeless and those who have no vision of meaning in life.”

          So if children are indoctrinated into a religion then they wouldn’t change their religion later in life? Again, that’s not how things are – there are plenty of converts to and from islam and Christianity throughout history, from all walks of life for all sort of reasons, including personal gain.

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 9:05 pm

          All I’m saying is that Baha’is will not fail as we are able to withstand their opposition. There will one day be worldwide opposition against the Bahai Faith by religious orthodoxy and that time we will also stand strong.

          We are slowly succeeding in making this world a better place for everyone.

          In time you will see that fir yourself.

        • Angemon says

          Mar 10, 2016 at 9:49 am

          worldcitizen1919 posted:

          “We are slowly succeeding in making this world a better place for everyone.”

          Ok, let’s roll with that. According to islam, the world would be better if everyone was a muslim. And a certain percentage of muslims worldwide believes in killing non-muslims and taking their wives and children as sex slaves, as stated in the quran, ahadith and sirah. At the same time, a percentage of muslims worldwide believes that the imperatives to wage warfare and capture women and children as sex slaves belong in the dustbin of history.

          What “better world” could possibly satisfy those three groups simultaneously?

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 10, 2016 at 10:52 am

          Thanks Angemon.

          If you ever get time have a look at our programs . They’re called Frontiers of Learning.

          http://www.bahai.org/frontiers/

          They are aimed at educating people to accept others ‘unconditionally’ as equals regardless of faith, class, race or nationality.

          It’s raising consciousness above our group think to that of the level of an all inclusive acceptance of all humanity as our brothers and sisters.

          Now it’s not easy. Barriers of prejudice, race, politics and religion abound but it’s creating a new paradigm with which to co-exist. A new world culture if you like.

          Reeducation of humanity to a higher level of loyalty to humanity is our goal and we will and are succeeding.

          One human family

          http://www.bahai.org/beliefs/essential-relationships/one-human-family/

          Now what’s so awesome about this concept is it is all inclusive. The aetheist is equal and seen as of much value as a human as a religionist. This is a far cry from the ‘holier than thou’ condescending attitude that exists today.

          Educating our youth and children in good morals and virtues is to ensure a happier future for them

          Everybody wins. It’s arduous and painstaking but it works and is succeeding and even some governments have requested us to pilot our programs in their schools as they don’t focus on one religion but on creating good upright people.

          Things like ‘welcome all with the light of oneness’

          And ‘so powerful is the light of unity that it can envelop the whole earth.

          The earth is but one country and mankind its citizens

          We of course still love our country and religion but the wider loyalty is to humanity here. It’s an entirely new paradigm and paradigms take time to lesrnbut once they become accepted and work they spread everywhere because life becomes better. Once we have peace we will never want to go back to war.

          The Baha’is are trying to offer something better for humanity than what it has and once experiencing it won’t want to go back to a life of lesser quality. A new world culture but unity in diversity not communism or anything like that.

        • Angemon says

          Mar 10, 2016 at 11:02 am

          “The Baha’is are trying to offer something better for humanity than what it has and once experiencing it won’t want to go back to a life of lesser quality. A new world culture but unity in diversity not communism or anything like that.”

          Ah, a world better for everyone just as long as everyone agrees to leave behind what they believe and agree upon believing something else.

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 10, 2016 at 11:29 am

          Just to put the well being of humanity first that’s all.

        • Con Ken says

          Mar 9, 2016 at 12:18 pm

          Okay, going to Google your religion, curious,
          Not going to change mine, but it would be nice not to detest Iranians, as they seem to be more like the Saudis day by day in their avtions

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 9, 2016 at 1:27 pm

          This is an official site of the Baha’is

          Don’t worry about losing your belief because a Baha’i keeps his previous beliefs

          We basically believe in one human family.

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 9, 2016 at 1:27 pm

          http://www.bahai.org/beliefs/essential-relationships/one-human-family/

          Sorry forgot the link

      • Mo says

        Mar 8, 2016 at 11:23 am

        @ Angemon

        “Ah, so you refuse to acknowledge muhammad as a prophet?”

        Notice how Worldcitizen1919 keeps avoiding the point that he(?) acknowledges a warlord, terrorist, murderer, sex slave owner and child rapist as a “prophet”? As though having another (so-called) prophet after Mohammad makes it all okay!

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 1:34 pm

          No ones avoiding anything. The Bahai Faith acknowledges all the Prophets of the past including Muhammad and the Quran but the Baha’is do not follow the laws of the Quran as we have our own Holy Book.

    • Mirren10 says

      Mar 8, 2016 at 9:29 am

      You Bahais accept the koran, and acknowledge the putrescent mohammed as a ‘prophet’.

      You are complicit.

      • worldcitizen1919 says

        Mar 8, 2016 at 9:52 am

        Thank you for your comment.

        The Baha’is believe Baha’u’llah is the latest Manifestation of God for this age so we follow His Most Holy Book and not the Quran. We believe Muhammad is a Prophet but for a past age and era.

        We believe that at one time and age the laws of the Quran were applicable but now Baha’u’llah has come He has abolished the laws of the Quran and replaced them with new laws for this age centred around the oneness of humanity and world peace.

        • Atheist7 says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 9:58 am

          That sounds very nice but what you have actually done is to reject Muhammad and you have introduced a new supernatural creature Baha’u’llah. This is clearly heresy. When ISIS takes over, you will be killed and no trace of your religion will be allowed to survive. It will be as though you never existed.

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 10:11 am

          Good will always triumph over evil. Look at Israel how isolated it is surrounded by enemies on all sides yet they are protected by God. Our Bahai World Centre is in Israel so if they want to destroy us they must first get past the Israelis and I don’t like their chances.

          When missiles were being targeted at Haifa the Israeli defense had a Patriot missile defense system installed just near the Bahai Gardens and God was with us.

          http://www.bahaipictures.com

        • Mirren10 says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 10:03 am

          What, exactly, didmohammed ‘prophesy’ ? No-one seems able to answer this question.

          So, if the putrid paedophile mohammed was only a prophet ‘for a past age and era’, are we to take it you Bahais reject everything he said, and did, including the rape of nine year old Aisha, the murder of Asma bint Marwa ( only one example of thousands), the tortures, the rapes, murders and conquests, and you reject mohammed’s statement “I have been made victorious through terror” ?

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 10:23 am

          What did Muhammad prophesy? There are prophecies in the Quran is that what you’re referring to? The Quran was only meant for 1,000 years so it’s time is kendo and it is out of date.

          We are following Baha’u’llah and His Teachings for world peace. Our purpose is to promote the oneness of humanity, equality of men and women and whatever will lead to the well being and prosperity of humanity.

          We are not backward looking but forward looking.

          Now the important thing is peace, reconciliation, the anabolism meant of war and poverty.

          We believe that if religion is a cause of strife and bloodshed then it were better,to be without it. As to Muhammad. We don’t accept that those stories about Him are true.

        • Jay Boo says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 11:35 am

          Muhamad could not even prophesy that a woman whose parents he had brutally murdered while taking her as his sex-slave might conspire with his ambitious wife Aisha to poison him.

          Muhammad was clueless.
          One would think that his sock-puppet Allah would have raise an alarm with yet another self-serving revelation for Muhammad but Allah was clueless too coincidentally.

        • Con Ken says

          Mar 9, 2016 at 12:45 pm

          Okay so I read a short version, your prophet is dait to be attributes of all prophets, Jesus being only a prophet (which Christians will never believe), and your prophet is also the attributes of all prophets of future, from the next Messiah, to the highest levels of budah and Hindu, and believe Mohammad was a prophet of past, and this prophet has attributes of him also, also the future juddism prophet attributes. Ect.
          This prophet for told the world’s God’s of each religion is one God and all will come together to believe in this one God noatter what your secular religion was or is now.

          Funny though as he claims he is part of Abraham’s family( no written proof), that his son and nephew had jealousy over power of this prophet, who died in a Palestine jail.
          Hisessage that all will be one , you will call it not multicultural but be it the same( one of the relevations in the new testament is that God’s children will be the same, one color, one following of a false god, hmmmm then the end comes..
          The other part is that this prophet brings that all shall love each other. Utopia society… Ahhhh right..
          Well thank you for the brief education of your religion, and u cLl hour self an Iranian,yet it is Israel’s mussels that protect u from the Muslims… Hmmmm

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 9, 2016 at 1:47 pm

          The Israelis as you know have a deep mistrust of Iran yet the Bahai Faith which comes from Iran has its Two Prophets Shrines in Israel and its World Administrative centre on Mount Carmel, the Vineyard of God, in Haifa,

          The Bahai gardens are a Unesco World Heritage site. The Israelis had a Patriot missile defense system set up to protect us during the recent missile crisis. We owe the Israelis our existence. God bless them

          http://www.bahaipictures.com/arc.htm

      • Atheist7 says

        Mar 8, 2016 at 12:30 pm

        Worldcitizen, “Good will always triumph over evil”?? Not really.

        1. Well, once there was this Warlord called Tamerlane. He had the enemy at a disadvantage and promised them that if they surrendered, then no blood would be shed. They surrendered and he had them buried alive.

        2. Armenian genocide.

        3. Multitudes of battles during the Ottoman empire in which innocents were killed.

        As I see it, “good will always triumph over evil” is not verified by history. As I see it, it is strength that will triumph over weakness and craft that will triumph over stupidity. Charles Martel, Patton, Rommel, Sun Tzu, Caesar, and Alexander triumphed – not because they were “good (as opposed to evil)” – but rather because they were just damn good military strategists.

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 1:47 pm

          It was the Ottoman Empire which was responsible for a lot of oppression and torture of the Bahais. Where are the Ottomans and where are the Baha’is now?

          Christians were persecuted by the Romans then Christianity became the state religion of Rome.

          King Asoka was a warlord only to be subdued by the Buddhist teachings

          Although now there is much concern over jihad but in the future it will be abolished and all nations will become United and peace will reign on earth. A century ago the world was divided. Now, through technology it has become a global village and world unity is possible!! MsincenBahaullah appeared and called the world to unity it has been slowly uniting and humanity will all eventually come together and abandon all forms of war.

        • Atheist7 says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 4:48 pm

          You have some good points there Worldcitizen. I think that what we are also looking at is that I am a pessimist and you are an optimist. You may see hope, but I see a lot of Hell in the years to come. In the unlikely event that we actually survive for the next 300 years, I predict that the world will be run by computers. Then the computers will learn how to build themselves and repair themselves. We will then see the birth of a new life form – the Artificial Intelligence. In 1000 years, we will be completely dependent on the computers. Then the computers will decide that they don’t need us anymore and it will be Bye Bye us. I wish that I could live long enough to see how this all plays out.

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 6:36 pm

          The pain humanity is going through now, although seemingly bad can be compared to the pain of pregnancy. The birth pangs of a new world and the death pangs of the old ways we have followed for centuries.

          With technology as it is, the world has become a global village and neighbourhood. We are physically already united so it is just a matter of time before we become one country with us as the citizens.

          New ideas and concepts are fast replacing the old. Women are being seen as equal an no longer just servants of men. The time is approaching that the cost of war is becoming unbearable so wars will have to be ended and conflicts fought around the consultative table at tribunals etc

          If the trouble and turmoil humanity is going through now is the pangs of birth then the child may be world peace and it may come much sooner than we think. It’s when the pain is worst that the new birth arrives so look for world peace when humanity reaches its lowest ebb.

          Nice talking to you.

        • Angemon says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 8:22 pm

          worldcitizen1919 posted:

          “It was the Ottoman Empire which was responsible for a lot of oppression and torture of the Bahais. Where are the Ottomans and where are the Baha’is now?”

          Great, now you want to take the credit for the work of the Christian, later secular, West…

          Who defeated the Ottoman empire? Was it hordes of conquering bahai who entered Constantinople and declared the abolition of the caliphate? Was it bahai armies that brought down the sick man of Europe?

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 10:30 pm

          If you look deeper into Bahai history you will find that the Ottoman Empire collapsed as a direct result of persecuting a Manifestation of God, Bahaullah and His followers.

          It was God that brought about their downfall through the Christians.

          But this is the true story of what really happened…..

          “The Prisoner and the Kings” How one man changed the course of human history

          http://bahai-library.com/books/prisoner.kings/pk1.htm

        • Angemon says

          Mar 10, 2016 at 9:50 am

          worldcitizen1919 posted:

          “If you look deeper into Bahai history you will find that the Ottoman Empire collapsed as a direct result of persecuting a Manifestation of God, Bahaullah and His followers.

          It was God that brought about their downfall through the Christians.”

          Again, taking credit for the sacrifice of people who were fighting the Ottomans centuries before the bahai faith came into existence.

          What makes you think that it was a direct result of the oppression bahai and not, for example, the direct result of the Ottoman oppression of Jews?

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 10, 2016 at 10:56 am

          Because they persecuted a Messiah/Prophet. Namely Baha’u’llah. But of course their sins were many and they were likely punished for all of them by having their Kingdom taken away.

        • Angemon says

          Mar 10, 2016 at 11:07 am

          worldcitizen1919 posted:

          “Because they persecuted a Messiah/Prophet. Namely Baha’u’llah. But of course their sins were many and they were likely punished for all of them by having their Kingdom taken away.”

          I have a couple of problems with that. The first one is that by Biblical standards, retribution came very soon. The second is that, by quranic standards, Baha’u’llah shouldn’t have been persecuted because allah wouldn’t let anything bad happen to a prophet.

          Plus, the fall of the Ottoman empire didn’t end the persecution and oppression of bahai, did it?

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 10, 2016 at 12:01 pm

          No it didn’t end the persecution of the Baha’is but it ended the Ottomans.

          i think retribution was so swift because of the cruelty of the Ottomans and also that they had persecuted two messiahs the Bab and Baha’u’llah. The Bab was executed after announcing He was the promised Mahdi and Twelfth Imam. Also 20,000 of His followers were slaughtered.

          The Ottomans had to go. We still suffer in Iran though.

          Baha’u’llah shouldn’t have been persecuted but the Mullahs opposed Him because of fear & jealousy of His popularity and that all Iran would become Baha’i and they would lose their power and positions. They feared to kill Him as He was very popular so they had Him exiled.

        • Angemon says

          Mar 11, 2016 at 6:50 am

          So, basically, your story makes no sense in the light of biblical and quranic traditions, both of which are part of your faith, and there’s nothing that can’t be explained in simple, secular terms.

        • Con Ken says

          Mar 9, 2016 at 1:01 pm

          Ah his god is the god of the new world order

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 9, 2016 at 2:01 pm

          A world spiritual civilisation.

    • gravenimage says

      Mar 8, 2016 at 3:04 pm

      More spamming from “worldcitizen1919”:

      Somewhere here there’s a massive failure in the education system in the west.

      We Baha’is are the largest religious minority in Iran but do you read or hear anywhere of Baha’is being recruited for terrorist attacks?…

      Yet in the west young some people almost voluntarily rush to the aid of terrorists!!
      …………………………………..

      Of course, this is rot. There are a handful of Western converts, but virtually all of those rushing off to join ISIS and other Jihads are *already Muslim*.

      More:

      “We follow Baha’u’llah and His Teachings. And that Muhammad and the Quran were for a previous age some 1300 years ago.”

      Oh, so you agree Mohammad was a warlord, terrorist, murderer, sex slave owner and child rapist. And yet you still acknowledge him as some sort of “prophet”.
      …………………………………..

      “worldcitizen1919” schizophrenically both claims that the “Prophet” Muhammed was a totally peaceful fellow and that all the violence Muslims celebrate about him were–somehow–made up by his enemies; but at the same time hold that Baha’u’llah had to come along to abolish the horrors of holy war.

      But then, what would you expect of someone compelled to pretend that Islam is non-violent?

      More:

      No ones avoiding anything. The Bahai Faith acknowledges all the Prophets of the past including Muhammad and the Quran but the Baha’is do not follow the laws of the Quran as we have our own Holy Book.
      …………………………………..

      Why *wouldn’t* Baha’i follow the Qur’an if it is as wonderful as “worldcitizen1919” claims? Just more cognitive dissonance…

      More:

      Good will always triumph over evil. Look at Israel how isolated it is surrounded by enemies on all sides yet they are protected by God. Our Bahai World Centre is in Israel so if they want to destroy us they must first get past the Israelis and I don’t like their chances.
      …………………………………..

      All true. But “worldcitizen1919” never says why, if Islam is so intrinsically peaceful, that Baha’i have to headquarter in an Infidel country that defends against Muslim savagery. After all, Baha’i grew out of Shia Islam in Iran–but they are threatened there are “heretics”.

      More:

      When missiles were being targeted at Haifa the Israeli defense had a Patriot missile defense system installed just near the Bahai Gardens and God was with us.
      …………………………………..

      Actually, the Israelis are with you. But why would you expect Baha’i gratitude toward Jews? After all, they claimed that Judaism would be wiped out in Iran as all Jews there converted to Baha’i. This was supposed to have happened over a century ago.

      Actually, Judaism *has* been almost eradicated in Iran–but this was done through Muslim oppression, not mass conversion to Baha’i. In fact, most Persian Jews today live in Israel.

      More:

      We are not backward looking but forward looking.
      …………………………………..

      Not even remotely true, of course. How much time has “worldcitizen1919” spent here whitewashing the vicious Qur’an and the appalling warlord “Prophet”?

      In fact, he has claimed that any Christian who does not embrace the vile Muhammed is not a real Christian.

      More:

      Although now there is much concern over jihad but in the future it will be abolished and all nations will become United and peace will reign on earth. A century ago the world was divided. Now, through technology it has become a global village and world unity is possible!!
      …………………………………..

      What is also possible are Muslim rapist flash mobs, ISIS’s Dabiq on-line magazine, and recruiting videos for the Islamic State.

      I love much of what modern technology is capable of–including the virtual community of Jihad Watch–but it is a tool, like any other. It can be used for evil as easily as it can for good. Technology is as likely to facilitate the global Caliphate as it is freedom. It all depends on the user.

      Excellent rejoinders above to “worldcitizen1919’s” tosh from Angemon, Mo, Jay Boo, Mirren10, and Atheist7.

      • worldcitizen1919 says

        Mar 8, 2016 at 3:42 pm

        Gravenimage.

        I’m content for the passage of time to vindicate the Baha’i Faith.

        We’re not Muslims and an entirely new religion with a new Manifestation of God and a new Holy Book and we are non violent. That is abundantly clear to all unbiased people.

        We are a non violent religion who’s goal is to establish world peace. We believe women in many ways are superior to men. That war must be abolished and consultation be used to solve disputes. We reject jihad.

        Like Christianity came from Judaism so the Bahai Faith arose from Shiah roots but we are a completely different entity and our people are known worldwide to governments and nations as peaceful people who’s only aim is to establish world peace.

        Muhammad and the Quran were for an age past some 1300 years ago. Now it’s a new age and we have different teachings for this time.

        Islam militancy we believe will die out and Islamic governments be replaced with secular governments.

        • gravenimage says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 9:07 pm

          worldcitizen1919 wrote:

          Gravenimage.

          I’m content for the passage of time to vindicate the Baha’i Faith.

          We’re not Muslims and an entirely new religion with a new Manifestation of God and a new Holy Book and we are non violent. That is abundantly clear to all unbiased people.
          ……………………………..

          There is no doubt that Baha’i is much better than the violent creed it grew out of. I have always noted this.

          The only problem is that you feel compelled to continue to whitewash the Islam.

          More:

          Like Christianity came from Judaism so the Bahai Faith arose from Shiah roots but we are a completely different entity…
          ……………………………..

          Oh my God–are you trying to compare Judaism to the horror of Islam?

          We refer to Judeo-Christian values for good reason. Judaism is a perfectly civilized faith.

          More:

          Muhammad and the Quran were for an age past some 1300 years ago. Now it’s a new age and we have different teachings for this time.
          ……………………………..

          Even by your own lights, that would mean that you believe that Islam was not just valid 1300 years ago, but up until 1863 when Baha’i began.

          The West had experienced the Renaissance and the Enlightenment, and had either abolished slavery or were fighting to do so.

          Yet you hold that oppressive Islam was perfectly valid at this time–and was, in fact, sanctioned by God. Pretty perverse.

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 10:39 pm

          The Bab announced the end of the Quranic Dispensation on May 23rd 1844 and the end of Shariah law as well.

          Then Baha’u’llah in 1863 proclaimed a new era of the unity of mankind.

      • pumbar says

        Mar 9, 2016 at 8:57 pm

        “Excellent rejoinders above to “worldcitizen1919’s” tosh from Angemon, Mo, Jay Boo, Mirren10, and Atheist7.”
        How lovely that you joined together to take down someone who has said openly that they have no aggressive intention or hatred against our way of life.
        How bold and courageous that you bully someone who is on the periphery of this serious topic; at best.
        The heroic JW justice gruppen at their best. Well done to you all.
        Maybe serious JihadWatchers should now be called SJWs?

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 9, 2016 at 9:27 pm

          We Baha’is are doing our best to create a society that is loving and accepting of all people and instill into children and youth virtues and morals and teach them that the highest goal in life is to be a source of goid to others.

          To be at one with all and condemn none neither believer or aetheist for all are one human family.

          If we stand condemned for believing in peace and world brotherhood and promoting harmony and unity then yes we are guilty and of wanting to free humanity from wars and hatreds we are guilty too. You are free to condemn us for that and we accept that we are guilty in this respect and deserving of scorn and wrath from those who see these things as lies and cover ups. This is what we do. We want a better world for everyone including you. In this respect we are guilty of all these crimes.

        • pumbar says

          Mar 9, 2016 at 11:59 pm

          I think you are barking mad worldcitizen1919. Don’t think that I take any of your beliefs seriously.

        • Mirren10 says

          Mar 10, 2016 at 10:16 am

          pumbar,

          firstly, ‘worldcitizen’ is under no obligation to post here; why do you think he is doing so ?

          Secondly, if you have read his nonsense, at all, you will see it is an unvarying attempt at whitewashing mohammed, the koran, and sharia. Why do you think he’s doing this ?

          Thirdly, your sneering descriotion of those of us who have answered ‘worldcitizen’s’ claptrap as bullies and nazis, is sheer calumny. People who choose to post here are a) as I said, under no obligation to do so, and b) if they choose to post, then they must be prepared to defend their arguments. This isn’t playschool.

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 10, 2016 at 11:16 am

          I post here because someone must tell the truth. It’s unfair that a Person in His absence is ridiculed, condemned, slandered and scorned upon without the other side of the story being told.

          You all want to hear Muhammad is evil and the Quran is a military handbook.

          But I know otherwise and even if I am in the minority and I say Muhammad is the Prophet of God Who committed no wrong and the Quran is the perfect Word of God.

          The truth may be a very bitter pill to hear but if you are open minded people you must acknowledge that we all make mistakes and that none of us are perfect and that it’s POSSIBLE that despite an overwhelming majority on this site opposed to Muhammad , if you are fair you must admit the possibility however remote that you may have it all wrong. And that I could be telling it as it is.

          What IF? We would never be out of the dark ages if scientists never QUESTIONED their own theories. Imagine if they just said the world was flat and didn’t speak up because of fear of being ridiculed.?? No advance and we wouldn’t be here on this forum.

          To find truth we must always QUESTION our own arguments. If we don’t we never learn.

          So if you want to insist Muhammad is evil and the Quran is nonsense then that’s all you’ll ever learn about this subject as you have closed your minds and pronounced judgement without listening with an open mind to the other side of the story.

          So are you like a judge who sentences a man to death only upon hearing the prosecution and not allowing his defence to be heard. Then do you ask? Maybe what he says has some truth? Or do you just say nonsense? Intelligence is to think, reflect and question oneself as well. If we want to find truth we must always be willing to be man enough to accept we might be wrong.

        • Angemon says

          Mar 11, 2016 at 6:50 am

          worldcitizen1919 posted:

          “<iI post here because someone must tell the truth. It’s unfair that a Person in His absence is ridiculed, condemned, slandered and scorned upon without the other side of the story being told.

          You all want to hear Muhammad is evil and the Quran is a military handbook.”

          Is that not what islamic orthodoxy teaches? Or to you claim to know more about islamic orthodoxy than the myriad of islamic clerics that have interpreted the quran, ahadith and sirah in that way?

          Why are we somehow in the wrong for having an unfavorable view of it as it is presented to us by its adherents?

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 11, 2016 at 7:27 am

          You don’t have the wrong view about Islamic militancy. It is evil,and a curse to humanity and must be destroyed. I fully agree and support that.

          Again you’re NOT WRONG. You are fully justified and its noble to be opposed to Islamic militancy.

          So I’m supporting you and Jihad Watch in that respect.

          It’s an evil a Satan. Isis is a Satan.

          But there’s more to Islam than just terrorists and it’s the innocent and good people who have done no harm and wish no harm that should not be lumped in with the militants. That’s all.

        • Angemon says

          Mar 12, 2016 at 7:51 am

          “You don’t have the wrong view about Islamic militancy.”

          Not militancy, orthodoxy.

          “But there’s more to Islam than just terrorists and it’s the innocent and good people who have done no harm and wish no harm that should not be lumped in with the militants.”

          Two things:

          1 – the people you’re describing are, according to islamic rules. heretics, if not apostates

          2 – what are they doing against the people who claim they are to take up arms and wage war against non-muslims? Where’s their theological counter-argument? They have no basis in islamic orthodoxy to defend, for example, the equality of all before the law.

          There were innocent, good people in WWII Germany and Japan. Should Britain and France have ignored the invasion of Poland because fighting Germany would mean lumping innocents with militant nazis? Should the US have ignored the attack on Pearl Harbor as not to have innocent Japanese lumped with the people who, for example, did the rape of Nanjing?

          As long as the so-called “innocent people” keep whistling and looking the other way as not to have heir beliefs questioned, they’re not innocent, they’re enablers. As Burke (allegedly) wrote, “all that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing”. He also wrote “when bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle”, something I wished the EU and US remembered.

        • Angemon says

          Mar 10, 2016 at 10:24 am

          Arguing with someone about what they believe in: bullying.

          Straight out claiming that they’re “barking mad”: erm, not bullying?

          The people you mentioned routinely take mohammedan apologists and gloaters to task, and not just on JW – are we being bullies in those situations as well? Should we stop doing that if a muslim steps in and says that he has no hatred or ill-will against us but muhammad was all about love and peace, the perfect example of conduct and the world would be better off if everyone converted to islam, the religion of peace and love?

        • Mirren10 says

          Mar 10, 2016 at 12:33 pm

          Worldcitizen, in his first paragraph, reiterates his defence of the vicious mohammed.

          He goes on to continue defending the koran, and sharia. Notice he offers no **reasoned** argument for his assertions, but simply declares mohammed to have been unfairly condemned; neither does he offer any evidential sources for his assertions. He asserts, therefore it must be true.

          How typical of the ‘arguments’ put forth by mohammedans, their leftard apologists, et al. Now we must add Bahai’s to the lidt of those eho are unable to argue logically/evidentially.

    • Champ says

      Mar 8, 2016 at 4:13 pm

      “worldcitizen” is Baha’i and he’s a very confused individual who sends *profoundly* mixed messages …

      On the one hand, “worldcitizen” will state that he looks forward to a world without violence. But on the other hand, he refuses to acknowledge that mohammedans follow a violent religion that promotes and commits “jihad” and causing murder and mayhem throughout the world.

      So “worldcitizen” recognizes that violence DOES exist, but his false religion doesn’t allow him to take the next *logical* step in identifying the enemy: islam. It’s pure nuts!

      Sure “worldcitizen” wants peace, but he’s a complete coward for choosing to follow a false religion, like Baha’i, because they aren’t allowed to take rightful aim at evil, and toward those whom willingly commit “jihad” in the name of allah. He isn’t **allowed** to criticize anyone, or anything — yet he recognizes evil? Yeah things that make you go, hmmm …

      Baha’i are the blind leading the blind.

      Islam is overtly evil, whereas Baha’i are covertly evil. But both follow the same false god: satan.

      • Atheist7 says

        Mar 8, 2016 at 9:33 pm

        Champ,
        Just a note on my mode of operation. I put my statement “not a bad thought for a Theist” in the kidding around category. So don’t be offended. I try to never attack people – rather I try to challenge their ideas so that we can all learn by the interaction.

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 10:46 pm

          I’m very happy to be challenged because I want to clarify. I believe I can clarify many things so please ask and I will do my best to give you the most truthful honest answer.

          I know Bahai can sound confusing because people wonder how can opposing Faiths come together but we are doing it you only need to find out how and I’m sure you’ll eventually realise it’s brilliant and never been done before but for now confusion reigns so I’ll keep trying to assist you.

          I’ve been a Baha’i for 40 years and have studied deeply most of the Bahai Books the Quran and Bible and also other Books of Budhism, Zoroaster and Hinduism so I haven’t accepted the Bahai Faith blindly. We don’t have priests ir clergy p.

        • Champ ✿ says

          Mar 8, 2016 at 11:31 pm

          Share your “note” with Mo, since she is the one that you offended first and foremost.

      • Mirren10 says

        Mar 10, 2016 at 12:55 pm

        **Excellent** points, champ.

        Bahai Bert continues with his vague, airy fairy waffle, and refuses to post any evidential sources for his pie in the sky, childish assertions. QED.

        • worldcitizen1919 says

          Mar 10, 2016 at 7:41 pm

          The religious wars of the Muhammadans and the Xhristians were not the fault of Jesus and Muhammad or the Bible and Quran. It was their followers that engaged in these wars against the teachings of their own Faith.

          Christ says : Thou shalt not kill

          Quran says : Do not attack unless attacked first. God loves not such injustice 2:190

          Yet neither the Christians nor the Muslims adhered to the laws of their own Holy Books. How can we blame God for that?

        • Angemon says

          Mar 11, 2016 at 6:51 am

          “Bahai Bert”

          XD

  4. Charli Main says

    Mar 8, 2016 at 10:53 am

    She probably converted to Islam after reading all that Western feminist literature about how free and liberated Muslim women are.

  5. Jay Boo says

    Mar 8, 2016 at 11:29 am

    Sale on Islam
    Purchase Freedom from Freedom

    Leave your soul at the front cashier.

  6. gravenimage says

    Mar 8, 2016 at 3:06 pm

    Denmark: 16-year-old girl, convert to Islam, charged with planning jihad attacks on two schools, one Jewish
    …………………………….

    This should not surprise. This is what this foul creed demands.

  7. Mary Beth Olson says

    Mar 8, 2016 at 5:19 pm

    Muslims are shit. Islamophobia is a healthy response to the beasts of Islam.

  8. Matthieu Baudin says

    Mar 8, 2016 at 6:59 pm

    “…When was the last time you heard about a convert to Christianity or any other religion plotting terror attacks in the name of his or her new religion and in accord with its teachings? When was the last time you heard about a devout Christian giving a new convert a manual for bomb-making? Yet despite the recurring phenomenon of converts to Islam being involved in jihad terror plotting…”

    Good questions. Perhaps that old British Philosopher and political left winger Bertrand Russell could help unravel the discrepancy? Russell, though himself a confirmed agnostic, took the effort to familiarise himself with many texts of major world religions and came up with some interesting and currently relevant insights; in his judgement Christianity and Buddhism were in essence Contemplative faiths while Islam on the other hand was akin to Bolshevism (Leninist Communism) obsessed with rules and their enforcement within a ‘top down’ authoritarian order.

  9. sidney penny says

    Mar 8, 2016 at 10:32 pm

    “authorities remain absolutely incurious about this, and have taken no steps whatsoever to counter it.”

    How do authorities take steps to counter it when they remain absolutely incurious about converts involved in jihad terror plotting?

  10. Pumbar says

    Mar 9, 2016 at 12:24 am

    For a while now I have been thinking about selling “online radicalisation” kits on ebay.
    New converts to Allans Deen can simply be handed a small card with a link to my ebay shop page on it, get the slap across the head by a crying iMam, be handed a teatowel or baggy balaclava (depending on their sex) and then off they go.
    The kit contains so far,
    Mothballs, 1 pkt
    Syrian passport, fake, name of “Aisha Girlhoo – Kansayno.
    Rubber wristband, 1 off, WWMD written on it.
    Printout of (so called) IS article, “how to build a bomb from your mom”.
    His n hers sanitary pebbles, Syria, for arrival in.
    Subscription to bustygoats.com, 1 month.
    Used socks, grey, 1 pair.
    Sports bottle of camel urine, 500ml, branded “prophetade”.

  11. dumbledoresarmy says

    Mar 9, 2016 at 7:42 pm

    I first encountered this news item over at Jerusalem Post online.

    They permitted Comments.

    This, from a commenter signing in as “Tati 8796”, was one – a classic. Worthy of Jihadwatch. Dripping with sarcasm.

    “Do you feel hatred to Jews? Are you insecure and violent? Any other mental issues or disorders? CONVERT TO ISLAM and your vices will become your virtues!”

  12. Mirren10 says

    Mar 10, 2016 at 10:20 am

    Brilliant, and absolutely true ! 🙂

  13. dorai says

    Mar 10, 2016 at 9:39 pm

    In India after 1000 yrs, Hindu converts to Islam have not assimilated where all religions are accepted ; what makes anyone think they will assimilate in Europe

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