But what if there really are doctrines of Islam that incite believers in Islam to commit acts of violence, and to work to subvert non-Sharia political systems? Grasso would probably consign all such concerns to “bigotry” and say that we must reject them with “the utmost firmness.” But…what if they’re true? On what does Pietro Grasso base his unshakable conviction that there is no justification for suspicion of Islam? Has he read the Qur’an? Has he studied the life of Muhammad?
“‘Dangerous’ to fuel anti-Islam sentiment says Grasso,” ANSA, March 3, 2016 (thanks to Lookmann):
(ANSA) – Rome, March 3 – Senate Speaker Pietro Grasso said Thursday equating Islam with terror is “dangerous” and is fueling a rise in hate crime. “We must reject with the utmost firmness the… linking of migration with terrorism, diversity with radicalism,” he told an Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe (OSCE) conference. “(We must reject) suspicion and resentment against Islam, foreigners and refugees, which citizens at a loss understandably feel and which some political forces are irresponsibly fueling. It is not by chance that hate crimes, intolerance and violence motivated by religious, ethnic and cultural hatred are on the rise in Europe”. He added that “as we know, the genesis of the Paris attacks was largely internal to Europe – therefore it is a mystification to reduce the security issue and the fight against terror to a matter of controlling the flow of refugees and migrants. Of course border control will be essential, but in concert with intelligence and security interventions, with diplomatic action and while guaranteeing the rights of all: citizens, migrants, and refugees”.

John Galt III says
Italy – another eloi Euro country where the men have castrated themselves
Grasso is the Italian word for pussy
mortimer says
Do you wonder if some Gulf cash was slipped into his hand before he gave that speech?
Zuleide Leonardo says
Oh! They know how to buy infidels!
faraway says
Probably didn’t cost much;had him over a barrel.
Keys says
Yes. I believe the Arabs are paying off lots of people in lots of countries, in lots of sectors of society, in lots of different ways.
Within my life time through jacked up oil prices we paid for 1000s of new mosques throughout the non-Islamic world. Our democratic systems and freedoms have been and are used for Islamic agendas. These machinations are co-ordinated on several fronts including the OIC (headquartered in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia), CAIR, Muslim Brotherhood, etc.
Almost every college and university has some chair, center, department, endowment, etc. paid for with a muslim countries’ oil money.
Buying influence and bribes – yes. But sometimes I wonder if some of these people and their families have been threatened with “an offer they can’t refuse”.
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Mortimer, you’ve connected more dots on this than I have. We just don’t have the evidence because we are dealing with comprehensive, unprecedented stealth jihad. I fear drastic measures will be inevitable to counter this; and the sooner, the less destruction for all of us.
Do we have the will to do it? Not if we don’t rcognize it for what it is; not if it is not in the open. That is why Islamophobia is a key component strategy of this onslaught – premeditated cultural annhilation to be replaced with the religion of peace.
Sandra Lee Smith says
Whether money and/or threats against his or his family’s lives, there has to be SOME serious “incentive” to lie to the public and endanger the lives of one’s fellow citizens by so doing. Islam is not, never hnas been, and never will be “peaceful”; its own holy writ forbids it being so!
Bob says
Does he not read newspapers?
Sandra Lee Smith says
Has he read history books?
gravenimageg says
Pietro Grasso has done some very good things against the Mafia–but he seems incapable of recognizing evil elsewhere.
faraway says
He should know the mafia got it’s method from islam.Sicily was occupied by moslems until the 11th century and the word mafia derives from arabic.
See citizenwarrior for similarities between islam and mafia.
Gary says
Don’t kid yourself. Islam is very destructive, and will ultimately lead straight to the eternal flames of Hell….
“The whole world was filled with wonder and followed the beast.”
Revelation 13:3
Sam says
Pietro Grasso deserves Islam and Italy and the rest of Europe. Idiots.
mortimer says
Grasso wants to sell Europe into slavery under Sharia.
Can he not see how well Sharia is working everywhere they tried it? Afghanistan? Pakistan? Somalia? ISIS?
Why should Europe commit suicide?
SoliDeoGloria says
No Sam, Italy and many Italians DON’T deserve Islam. Grasso and his cronies do, not people like you and me, who feel powerless to change the political status quo and the idiots that run my beautiful country.
But then again, it beggars belief why at election time my fellow Italians continue to commit the age-old crime of voting the same power hungry and useless politicos to control them.
Go figure!
Mirren10 says
I totally agree with you !
Unfortunarely, that’s the problem with democracy – fools electing scoundrels.
But as someone once said, “democracy is the worst form of government – except for all the others”.
So whatcan we do ? I wish I knew.
maghan says
No, democracy can work when the masses have the power to dismiss politicians–the paid workers for the people–by snap referendum whenever they make stupid decisions. It should be as in the business world. A CEO does something stupid, the Board meets and fires the fool. Why can’t it be like that in politics?
Just shows you how the people have been bamboozled by the politicians. Like in football, a coach who is losing too much is thrown out in a jiffy. Why not the same for politicians?
boakai ngombu says
it beggars belief why …
there is no alternative voice of warning as long as THE CHURCH continues its liturgy of silence
Sandra Lee Smith says
Same problem in America! Check your voting system. It may also have been hijacked by Soros or someone like him.
westman says
Such amazing rhetoric when the muslim migrants won’t stop in your country but move on to Germany.
The Islamic violence comes directly from Islam’s scriptures and doctrines. The only true statement that can be made is that most Muslims do not want violence. Violence against infidels is allowed and against Jews, promoted, by Islam’s ideology.
If Muslims are irritated that they are marginalized because of brother jihadists then it is their responsibility to disconnect their militant Imams from the payola and reject such teachings. Otherwise they deserve the association.
Sandra Lee Smith says
Agreed. You only change another’s perception of you by changing yourself.
mortimer says
Senator Grasso is an ostrich.
Bob says
Who doesn’r read newspapers!
mortimer says
Then my theory must be correct: the Speaker of the Senate has been bribed to give this speech. It is actually NONE OF HIS BUSINESS whether Italians criticize Hitlerism, veganism, New Age crystals or Islam! They are each IDEOLOGIES and the public has a right to discuss and evaluate them, their merits and their demerits.
Grasso is interfering in the freedom of expression, but why?
I can think of no other reason than that he has been bribed by Gulf money. It would not surprise me if other Western leaders are being bribed to keep quiet about the agenda of Saudi Arabia to export Islam and politically take over the West without firing a shot. If this is a conspiracy, it is a credible one.
gravenimage says
Mortimer wrote:
Grasso is interfering in the freedom of expression, but why?
I can think of no other reason than that he has been bribed by Gulf money…
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Oh, I doubt it, Mortimer.
Grasso has actually been very brave in standing up to and opposing the Mafia.
But like so many Westerners, he is mired in “political correctness”, and cannot bring himself to consider Islam a threat.
JawsV says
“It is not by chance that hate crimes, intolerance and violence motivated by religious, ethnic and cultural hatred are on the rise in Europe.”
That’s right – it’s by ISLAM you moron!
mortimer says
Grasso said: “Reject suspicion”
Suspicion is deliberately chosen as a word to imply there is no evidence! But there is. How about the history of Islamic conquest and Sharification.
Once Muslims are introduced into a country or region SUPREMACIST SHARIA LAW does the rest of the job to corrode and digest the culture and reform it as Islamic monoculture.
Grasso has not read Islamic history so he is completely uninformed about Islam, and yet, he presents himself as an expert on Islam. He is not.
Richard Paulsen says
Democracy in crisis. 0-4% non muslims in muslim countries. Less and less non muslims in not muslim countries while muslims are increasing. Leaders urging not to criticize.
That is democracy in a crisis. Crisis of confident and immediate need of new and better leaders.
robert says
i am a canadian very worried about the influx of muslims into my country.we have a weak kneed leader in treadeau and he will toe the line of the un and help destroy our way of life by bringing these people here. trump is the only free world leader to speak against this lunacy. GOD BLESS TRUMP
Judi says
Wait until the muzzrats conquer Vatican City and see if this useful idiot is still defending them.
Sam says
He will still defend Islam and blame America. You want to bet?
Sandra Lee Smith says
No bet!
mortimer says
Robert Spencer wrote: “Has (Sen. Grasso) read the Qur’an? Has he studied the life of Muhammad?”
Western elites have not read the foundational source texts that those doctrines, and yet, they present themselves as authorities on Islam even though they have not even a basic study of political Islam. Their GAPING LACUNA of ignorance about political Islam doesn’t qualify them to have a valid opinion on the subject.
Such elites as Sen. Grasso have unresearched opinions. They indulge themselves for political purposes in speculation that is no more than conjecture, presumption, surmisal, intimation, foolhardy supposition, overconfident reckoning, reckless inference, wild imagination, brash deduction, uninformed conclusion, unfounded postulation, and unlearned theorization. Their opinions are groundless rhetoric.
The CORE teachings of political Islam are: 1) misogyny 2) the kafir doctrine 3) supremacism 4) Islam’s apartheid doctrine: al Walaa wal Baraa 5) the vigilantism doctrine 6) the revenge doctrine 7) theocratic fascism 8) the hejira-jihad doctrine 9) world conquest.
Western elites have not read the books requisite to a valid understanding of the JIHAD CONQUEST DOCTRINE. Thus, elites like Sen. Grasso are culpably negligent.
mortimer says
correction: Western elites have not read the foundational source texts that those doctrines ARE DERIVED FROM, and yet, they present themselves as authorities on Islam
Wellington says
The madness continues. And I can only imagine how Oriana Fallaci, were she still here, would put this Italian dhimmi apologist for Islam in his place, assuming she wouldn’t be prosecuted for doing so, the distinct prospect of which, I would contend, itself points to an even greater problem, i.e., the demise of freedom in the West, in large part due to the continued exculpation of the oldest totalitarian ideology in man’s history, Islam, by the current crop of Western elites, bastard inheritors as they are, betrayers as they are, of the civilization which pioneered freedom more than any other civilization in history.
Islam is despicable. But even more despicable is dhimmi apologia for Islam.
mortimer says
I bring Sen. Grasso’s speech back to 1939 when thousands of German troops started entering Italy:
On behalf of Il Duce, Senator Grasso declared “…equating NAZISM with terror is “dangerous” and is fueling a rise in hate crime against innocent Germans. “We must reject with the utmost firmness the… linking of German troop migration with terrorism, or troop diversity with radicalism,” he told the Organization for Security and Co-operation between European Fascists (OSCEF) conference. “(We must reject) suspicion and resentment against NAZISM, foreigners and German refugees from Russia, which citizens at a loss (since we have no opposition to Mussolini) understandably feel, and which some counterrevolutionary political elements are irresponsibly fueling. (We will ‘deal’ with them.) It is not by chance that counter-revolutionary hate crimes, intolerance and violence motivated by religious, ethnic and cultural hatred of NAZISM are on the rise in Europe…”
LR says
Mortimer,
Good point.
Maybe you should send that to him.
David Frangiosa says
“Islam and Socialisms big push to rid the world of Christians and Jews”
As western nations trade-in whatever is left of Christian spiritual values and morality in favour of “progressive” atheist reasoning, those who form the new majority are not nearly as tolerant as those before…(Click to read on)
https://davidfrangiosa.wordpress.com/2016/03/05/islam-and-socialisms-big-push-to-rid-the-world-of-christians-and-jews/
Champ says
“‘Dangerous’ to fuel anti-Islam sentiment says Grasso”
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Such irony — when in fact Grasso’s statement is what’s “dangerous”, here.
Wellington says
Agreed, Champ, though the damn fool will probably go to his grave never figuring this out.
Champ says
Yes — you’re probably right, Wellington. And it’s crazy when we, the-little-people, know and understand the truth about islam, along with the potential for violence from islam’s followers — but our leaders, do not? Sooo frustrating.
mortimer says
Are our leaders in a conspiracy against the people?
DFD says
Champ says: “… but our leaders, do not?…”
Trust me: They do! They have access to information, and receive briefings & reports, we cannot even dream about.
The relevant reports and dossiers, about the perpetrators and the concerned citizens (that’s us), fill shelf upon shelf, corridor upon corridor, mile by mile.
And a lot, or most if not all, accessible electronically. Cross linked and referenced.
DFD says
Wellington says: “…though the damn fool…”
My 2 cents: Replace ‘damn’ with ‘corrupt’.
DFD says
mortimer says: “Are our leaders in a conspiracy against the people?”
I think so, unless they are stupid AND uninformed
mortimer says
Thank you, DFD. You appear truly well-informed. I am applying Ockham’s Razor to the incredible contradictions. The elites appear to have been bribed by the Saudis, since they are implementing the Islamist agenda without consulting the people.
The Sharification of the West is clearly against the interests of the people.
DFD, what is your suggestion? What can we do to stop the Saudification of the West?
DFD says
mortimer says: “…DFD, what is your suggestion? What can we do to stop the Saudification of the West?”
The answer to this is as easy as it is complex.
First of all, isn’t just Saudi Arabia, it’s the all OPEC gulf states. Their support for terrorist groups occurs to whatever group the individual supporter/financier fancies. The same holds true for the respective governments, and government organizations. There are two reasons for that, firstly, it doesn’t matter which group wins, it’s always the right one. Secondly, there is no coherent structure provided to be attacked, should the west actually have that idea. Further, it fulfills the Quranic requirement to ‘fight with goods or persons’. It is also congruent with the nature of participants who can be described as, shall we say, duplicitous.
The action they fear is bombing and confiscation of assets. These are the minimum actions required. Bombing refers to the palaces, they give a damn about their peoples.
Problem: The number of jihadis will increase dramatically, but wont last. You can’t fight without money. A Venetian General on the question what it takes to win: “First you need money, followed by more and even more money. Then victory is nearly assured.” (Prof. Paul Kennedy: Rise and fall of great powers).
Further, their (Muslim population) will must be broken, how? Quran emphasizes terror, and harsh, humiliating treatment of non-Muslims. Ergo, we must do as instructed by the Quran, bomb the civilians, that means damn the conventions, and afterwards be harsh to them. The latter is no problem from today’s point of view: Bring in Christians, Assyrians, Lebanese, Egyptian etc. They are also trustworthy and reliable allies – they don’t like Muslims. The Muslim populations will be placed into their own territories, call these ‘caliphates’ or whatever you like. Essentially, rerserved territories, after a few years, bring in the missionaries. Converts will have to be watched – inquisition? Yes, sort of, limited.
Will the public stand for a bombing campaign as required? Yes. Once Europe is up in flames and the U.S. to an extent as well, which means hatred and fear in the general EU & US population. Europe means an end to the EU as we know it, it will either reform AND transform, or be superseded.
The key issue here is Germany and the German Army, which is preparing for civil war with the Muslims for several years. If you want to know more, let me know.
And all that was only a very short, highly condensed reply…
Keys says
@Mortimer
So what do you think of DFDs reply to your question?
I know you seem to favor education hoping those with power will finally get it, pressured by their constituents’ enlightenment.
I think DFD is sincere. It certainly reflects what winning a war really requires. Can’t win without the ruination of the soldiers supporters, or it goes on and on. Backed up by history – Sherman’s march through the south, devastating destruction of German and Japanese infrastructure and populations, etc.
I am intrigued by DFDs comments about the German army. How does he know this? Brings to mind Sissi ousting the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt. Ironic if the British prayed for a German invasion of Britain to save them from Islam.
If a plan includes violence, I bet there are lots of plans starting with taking Arab oil, and it gets horribly worse from there all over the world.
Time is short, because if Europe falls to the Muslims, they will control French and British nukes – funny some of the biggest problems in Europe are in those 2 countries. Already nukes in Sunni Pakistan. Think the recent B-52s deployed “to fight ISIS” are really to bomb Shia Iran at the behest of “our ally” the Sunni Saudis? Iran will soon have Russian S-200s that can sink carriers and obliterate B-52s at great distances. Obama!
Sandra Lee Smith says
Agreed, they are, and with enemies ofall humanity, at large. They have been, in fact, for many centuries. They’re following their master’s commands.
celticwarriorcanada says
I know some people do not like The God Father Part 3 ! I love all 3, even the third one ! There is a good line in that movie : Michael, when discussing the Italian Politicians, says “They are THE TRUE MAFIA !”
Frankie says
It’s “Godfather”, not “God Father”. What the heck is a “God Father”?
gravenimage says
celticwarriorcanada wrote:
I know some people do not like The God Father Part 3 ! I love all 3, even the third one ! There is a good line in that movie : Michael, when discussing the Italian Politicians, says “They are THE TRUE MAFIA !”
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Actually, Senator Pietro Grasso is one of the Italian politicians who *changed all that*. He has worked hard to oppose the Mafia and corruption in Italian politics. There is a lot to admire there.
But we’ve seen this phenomenon before–there are some men who bravely stand up to evil in some forms who appear utterly incapable of recognizing it in other guises.
I think this is the case with Senator Grasso vis-a-vis Islam.
Myxlplik says
I guess Muslims have murdered everyone who isn’t Muslim in their own lands, now they have nobody to slaughter, but themselves, so it’s on to greener pastures in the West. Better not say anything though.
Janeatte says
It seems that ,there’s is a plan is going in the world makes the west puppet to Muslim world until they got what they want.
DFD says
Janeatte says; “It seems that ,there’s is a plan is going in the world makes the west puppet to Muslim world until they got what they want.”
Don’t think it’s a plan, it’s money
Matthieu Baudin says
Why is it he thinks non Muslims, in this case Italians/Europeans, need to do all the ‘attitude changing’? Does he also have a wish list for changed behaviour and attitudes for Muslims, including recent immigrants? From the Pope downwards we keep getting the same ‘one way street’ messages; that all the footwork needs to come from us. Who do these 1970’s grey beards think the current international Jihad belongs to?
Fox Fuzzbox says
Islam is just another word for trouble.
Serious trouble.
John Johness says
Well here is yet another expert on Islam, Pietro Grasso He has studied the texts, lived under Sharia, understands Arabic? Well no according to his Wiki entry.
But unlike probably all his advice to his kids – don’t speak until you know – he is willing to advise us on the one subject he has never studied.
What is this? Why do the ignorant politicians, academics, celebrities continually give us advice on this one subject? How bizarre.
Marty says
This is highly amusing & typical EUTreason.
In the UK, a mohammedan terrorist has successfully invoked EU “human rights”
law to stay here, rather than be deported to Italy to face terrorism charges.
Apparently, our “EU Partner” would torture him in an Italian prison.
The European peoples are committing mass suicide & anyone who observes the
obvious is branded “racist”, xenophobic etc etc.
Michael Copeland says
“the Quran directly commands us to commit terrorism, so why are we afraid of it?”
Ragab Hilal Hamida member of Egyptian Parliament, 2006
http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/06/nonie_darwish_an_arab_for_isra
Michael Copeland says
What if an Italian SUSPECTS a muslim is INTOLERANT of him?
What does Grasso recommend?
Reject suspicion? Be tolerant?
duh_swami says
I surrender…please don’t hurt me….
Don’t worry Percival, the pain will only last a few years,,,
KrazyKafir says
“It is not by chance that hate crimes, intolerance and violence motivated by religious, ethnic and cultural hatred are on the rise in Europe”.
Well, so far you, “know nothing” dhimmi stooge, most of the, hate crimes, intolerance, and violence, seems to be coming from the Islamic invaders.
Jay Boo says
CAVEAT EMPTOR
Grasso adds the following:
“Of course border control will be essential, but in concert with intelligence and
security interventions, with diplomatic action and while guaranteeing the rights
of all: citizens, migrants, and refugees.”
EU border controls are a joke because of such politicians
Gbox says
Funny how liberal leftists spout the same idiocy wherever they live.
This moron never heard all the muslim promises to conquer Rome?
Julius Ceasar 3ed says
How many times in grasso’s past years has he even come close to any actual working person in Italy ? ZERO, NONE. He lives in a wall surrounded house (villa) with a protection service of 500 armed bodyguards. Why would he worry about Islamic fanatics (murderes) attacking him. grasso is just another addition to the worldwide political stupid elites that do not care 1 bit about anyone besides their comrades in arms in politics. Who votes for these useless idiots ?
Max Payne says
Do these European and American fools like Angela Merkel,Grasso,David Cameron;John Kerry and Hilary Clinton know about that poisonous mixture that they keep romanticisng at all.God help them and open their eyes to the danger that lies ahead.
Luciano says
I WONDER HOW CAN SALAFIS OR WHATEVER THEY ARE NAMED STILL WALK AROUND EUROPE, HAVING SPACES FREE OF CHARGE FOR MOSQUES WHERE THEY ARE TEACHING PERVERTED SUBSCIENCE OF ISLAM???HOW SALAFIS ARE NOT AGAINST THE EUROPEAN LAW IF RIGHT WING PARTYS ARE???/ARE POLITICIANS REALLY BELEVING THEIR TEACHINGS ARE SACRAL???
gravenimage says
Salafists are not the only problem. It is all of Islam.
Angemon says
I’ll start doing so as soon as muslims stop terrorizing others for the sake of islam. Until then, talk to the hand.
jewdog says
“(We must reject) suspicion and resentment against Islam…”
Exactly so, Pietro. Just keep telling yourself that and you may come to actually believe it. But count me out, thanks.
rooare says
This kind of rhetoric comes from so many of the protected, and the unprotected, the common citizens, suffer.
Mirren10 says
I totally agree with you !
Unfortunarely, that’s the problem with democracy – fools electing scoundrels.
But as someone once said, “democracy is the worst form of government – except for all the others”.
So whatcan we do ? I wish I knew.
Angemon says
Democracy can’t work without an informed population. All we can (have the duty to?) do is share the knowledge.
gravenimage says
Italy’s Senate Speaker: “We must reject suspicion and resentment against Islam”
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Why? There’s plenty there to be suspicious about.
More:
He added that “as we know, the genesis of the Paris attacks was largely internal to Europe – therefore it is a mystification to reduce the security issue and the fight against terror to a matter of controlling the flow of refugees and migrants.
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That’s because the barbarians are *within the gates*.
But let’s look at the Paris attacks:
Two of the Jihadists held French citizenship and were living in Belgium. Three more held Belgian citizenship and were living in Belgium. Two had entered the EU just recently with Syrian refugees through Greece.
Only two of the Jihad attackers held French citizenship–and *all* of the Jihadists had to cross borders to attack Paris. Seems like border control would have helped a lot even in the very case Grasso is citing.
Custos Custodum says
Readers who are unfamiliar with travel in Europe may not be aware that the much-ballyhooed “border controls” are currently in effect between the UK and other European countries (including along the land border with the Republic of Ireland).
Americans have long gotten used to the idea (rightly or wrongly) that one needs a government-issued picture ID to board a plane, or even to buy an Amtrak ticket. Road tolls also depend on driver and vehicle ID. Nothing more severe is being proposed for the Schengen area.
eduardo odraude says
Did God recently correct Islam during a woman’s near death experience?
I just read an interesting near death experience report that says something about the Qur’an.
The report is from a woman who was hit by lightning. She describes in detail what one hears about in many near death reports. She apparently leaves her body and finds herself (in a strange kind of second body) going to a world where there is a beautiful city surrounded by beautiful nature and everything is filled with light, ineffable music, and ineffable love. She has a conversation with various persons, including one man she says was Jesus, and another she felt she evidently felt to be the father God. He does not appear in the guise of a man with a white beard as in Michelangelo, but does appear as a man with a beard and radiates incredible love and happiness. God lovingly asks her a question, “If it were just you and me, what would you do?” She is befuddled by the question, but eventually finds herself discovering or being inspired with the answer that God is in everything and everyone, so that in a sense it always really has been only God and she. So she should find ways to love everyone.
But here’s the part about the Qur’an. She was inspired to say something about it, though “God” did not directly ask her about it or mention it. She was surprised that she said what she did about it:
The dialogue went on without saying anything further about Islam. Now if this woman is telling the truth about her near death experience, that is quite interesting, because I gather the Koran that we have here on earth mentions only 99 names of God. Yet the woman’s statement made “in heaven” during her near death experience, in which she refers to a 100th name is accepted as correct by “God.” Not only does the vision thus seem to correct the earthly Koran that we have, suggesting it is missing the hundredth Name. Even more important, according to the vision the hundredth name of God describes divine characteristics that Islam on earth completely rejects. Earthly Islam is based on God’s absolute transcendence, whereas the woman’s statement, accepted by “God” during her near death experience, is that God’s hundredth name shows he is also present in everything and everyone, i.e., the opposite of transcendent. That God is both immanent and yet transcendent is a familiar idea in theology, but runs directly counter to earthly Islam, since earthly Islam makes Allah in some sense totally Other to his creatures. Islam — including its totalitarianism — is based on the extreme character of Allah’s otherness as conceived in earthly Islamic theology.
The vision is also interesting, because neither the woman nor “God” says anything about the earthly Qur’an containing only 99 names, and that it is missing the hundredth, nor do the woman or God say anything about how the immanence of God amounts to a radical correction of earthly Islam. With regard to Islam, the woman seems not to know the meaning of her own vision at all. Yet any critic of Islamic theology might see it as “God’s” indirect, tactful, artful, radical critique of Islam. Indeed, the critical part of it is really a byproduct of a positive statement — there is a hundredth name of God, and it is immanence.
So did “God himself” issue a correction to Islam during this woman’s NDE? Obviously the significance and objectivity of a particular individual’s near death experience is not something certain, but if she described her experience honestly, it may be a fascinating message from God with regard to Islam. Here is the report itself: http://www.iands.org/ndes/nde-stories/iands-nde-accounts/1110-from-lightning-to-enlightenment.html
eduardo odraude says
Correction: I have now researched the names of Allah a bit more, and apparently some Muslims believe there is a 100th, “secret name” of Allah that no one really knows. Still if the woman was telling the truth about her NDE, it seems remarkable that “God” says the 100th name is God’s immanence, his presence in everything, a quality that seems to run radically counter to Islamic theology’s extreme emphasis on transcendence.
Mirren10 says
Are you *serious* ??
Sandra Lee Smith says
That also runs counter to the Quranic description of who Allah is, which happens to match the Biblical description of the person we Christians know as Lucifer, or Satan. Only Yhwh God transcends all, but He is not “in all” either. His Holy Spirit resides only in those who have come to Him through the shed blood of Jesus Christ, which Muslims vehemently deny, bith as a means of salvation and as an actual historic event.
Champ says
Indeed, “are you serious?” is right!!
I am going to trust my basic common sense on this one, and you should, too — since it tells me that islam is wholly evil, the quran is a manual-4-murder, and allah, and however *many* names he has, is satan, and NOT the God of the Bible ..etc, etc. ‘Nuff said …
ScottM says
There’s enough evidence provided everyday that makes this Italian politician look like a liar or incredibly stupid – probably both.
Keys says
Hypnotism, Mickey.
They looked the snake in the eye. ??????
? Stay well. We need each other.
Mirren10 says
Are you *serious* ??
paul says
Its NOT a suspicion. You would have to be a moron to think otherwise. Ask them!