“It’s disrespectful to every religion.” No, it isn’t. It is most likely a member or members of one faith being disrespectful to another. But because the disrespected faith is so very, very solicitous of the likely faith of the perpetrators, no one involved is likely to speak about this honestly — if they ever even realize that the painters wrote “Allah” (الله) at the base of the statue.
This one took place on Good Friday, three or four days before another incident of vandalism of a Virgin Mary statue in Massachusetts.
“Virgin Mary statue vandalized at Norwood parish,” by Reenat Sinay and Alexandra Koktsidis, Boston Globe, March 27, 2016 (thanks to Vicki):
A statue of the Virgin Mary at St. Catherine of Siena Parish in Norwood was vandalized with black spray paint on Good Friday, the most sacred day of the year for Catholics.
The body of the statue, which depicts the Blessed Mother with praying hands, was covered in paint. Graffiti was scrawled beneath a plaque that reads “To Jesus Through Mary,” on the base of the statue, which stands in a garden outside the parish school.
The Rev. Stephen Donohoe, the pastor of St. Catherine, called the incident “a sad act of vandalism,” but asked parishioners to pray for whoever defaced the beloved figure.
“Please pray for the person or persons who did this.” Donohoe said in the statement, released Saturday by the Archdiocese of Boston. “We are reminded never to take the gift and treasure of our faith for granted but to live it and proclaim it every day.”
In a tweet posted Saturday night, Norwood Police asked the public for help.
“Statue defiled last night at St. Catherine’s,” said the tweet, which was posted just after 8 p.m. “Father is asking for prayers, but we could also use some leads. If you know something call us.”…
One parishioner was outraged by the vandalism.
“It’s disrespectful to every religion,” said Linda Curran, 73, who learned of the from a neighbor. “I just feel badly. Norwood really has many different houses of worship . . . many different cultures in the town, and there’s never been a problem..”
A town official denounced the act as disrespectful to all faiths in town.
“Personally, I think it’s a very sad thing to have happened, especially on Easter weekend,” said Paul A. Bishop, chairman of the Norwood Board of Selectmen.
“It’s not just about Catholics — it’s disrespectful to all religions,” he said. “The statue has been there for generations.”…

nicu says
They did it here , too in a small town – removed crosses and destroyed Jesus statues — and raped and killed sheep !
But Germany still let’s them come in :((
Green Infidel says
Yet I’m guessing the churches still say to the migrants “come on in”?
What wonderful blessings it must be to have such new neighbours…
gravenimage says
And here’s a story from Italy:
“Italy: Muslims Destroy and Urinate on Virgin Mary Statue”
http://www.raymondibrahim.com/2015/01/17/italy-muslims-destroy-and-urinate-on-virgin-mary-statue/
GraceA says
Actually, if you knew anything about Islam, they hold the virgin Mary in very high esteem, and speak very highly of her in the Quran. This act was most likely a hate monger trying to get people to blame Muslims.
Mirren10 says
”This act was most likely a hate monger trying to get people to blame Muslims.”
Yep. I’m sure Brussels was, as well, and Paris, and Lahore, and 9/11, 7/7, and …
Ashley says
“This act was most likely a hate monger trying to get people to blame Muslims.”
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Although your theory is not out of the realm of possibility, it certainly doesn’t strike me as “most likely.”
gravenimage says
GraceA wrote:
Actually, if you knew anything about Islam, they hold the virgin Mary in very high esteem, and speak very highly of her in the Quran.
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This is a frequent trope, but the fact is that “Jesus–really, “Isa”–in the Qur’an and other texts of Islam–is a *very* different figure from the Jesus of the Gospels. His major role, in fact, is to kill Christians in the Last Days.
More:
This act was most likely a hate monger trying to get people to blame Muslims.
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What rot. For one thing, the idea that Muslims–who forbid images–would revere an image of the Christian Virgin Mary, is absurd.
And this has happened before:
“Italy: Immigrants Smash Statue of Virgin Mary and Urinate on It”
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/01/21/italy-immigrants-smash-statue-of-virgin-mary-and-urinate-on-it/
This was done openly, and not under cover of night.
And here are Muslims destroying a statue of the Virgin Mary *on camera*, and crying “Allahu Akbar” as they do:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KEC0TcgM0aw
So much for that “respect”.
RiseAKnight says
GraceA – You are so wrong. Notice the name of “Allah” in Arabic graphic/script at the base of the statue. That could only have been done by a Muslim trained in Arabic script writing. Notice as well … the graphic/script symbol for Allah is the shape of a snake or serpent. The symbol for Satan is the snake.
Bill says
Dude you are so full ofshit…muslims did this destruction and you know it to be true…if you side with them you are one of them and not an American…you sir are a traitor
Shmuel says
You are a disgrace GraceA. I bet you also believe that this country is evil, right? If you are nominally a christian – shame on you! You are betraying your fellow Americans and Christians around the world!
Proud American and a Jew,
Shmuel
Gracea says
It said “immigrants” and “foreigners”, nowhere did it say they were identified as Muslims, it was speculated, but not identified as a fact. Stop hate mongering.
Mirren10 says
What ‘it’ are you referring to, Fatima ?
Carolyne says
Sure, Gracea. How many people other than Muslims would paint “Allah” in Arabic on a Christian symbol? What are you smoking? I fear it has damaged your brain.
gracea says
The “it” was to OP’s link to the story in Italy.
Carolyne, at least I am respectful and do not need to stoop to negative comments and personal attacks. Who other than a Muslim you ask? Ummm lets see, anyone who wants to stir up even more islamophobia.
Mirren10 says
” …I am respectful and do not need to stoop to negative comments and personal attacks.”
Ummm, let’s see; ‘hate mongering’, ‘islamophobia’.
‘islamophobia’ is a leftist manufactured word, coined to prevent any criticism of jihad, and to make anyone who criticises islam or mohammedans feel they are being ‘racist’, or ‘bigoted’.
Not working anymore, Fatima.
steve says
What a stupid remark ,even from an obvious Islamic sycophant. Why is it that these lefties are never blown up in or on, buses,trains,planes,dance halls,cafes,museums,etc,etc,etc, BY bloody Muslims,Muslims,Muslims.
Ashley says
Gracea…I fear you have wandered over to the wrong site. Bully for you that Islamic concepts of Sharia and Jihad are no big deal.
As a Massachusetts resident, I’m greatly concerned. Let’s see…we had that silly marathon bombing. We had that ridiculous trespassing incident at The Quabbin. We had three locks cut at the Hultman Aqueduct in Framingham…another major drinking water source. We have pranksters severing heads and hands of Mary on church property. And most recently, we had some dude from Bangladesh, a medical student, trespassing through The Callahan Tunnel to take photos because hell…as we all know, the layout and inside workings of The Callahan Tunnel is a sightseeing experience not to be missed, even if it requires illegal trespassing.
Following the marathon bombing and Quabbin incident, mosques across the state issued a directive to Muslims NOT to cooperate with the FBI. Strange that, eh?
Massachusetts is a liberal state. We have NPR coursing through our veins. We bend over backwards to embrace multiculturalism. We fret over what gender bathroom our transgender community should frequent. We are the epicenter for liberal colleges that promotes tolerance, hummus, and “coexist” bumper stickers. We don’t speak ill of ANY ideology, even one that is misogynistic, blood thirsty, obliged to advance Sharia and Jihad, and bent on destroying the West.
I will eat my hat if these “goofy pranksters”, if and when caught, turn out to be non-Muslim.
By all means, enjoy your “ignorance is bliss” mentality. It will, in time, bite you in the ass.
Good day!
bostongal912 says
I’m from Weymouth, Ma and when I went home for a visit I was shocked at how much it had changed! I live in WA stat now. Another liberal multicultural utopia! The government here can’t wait to bring in refugees and has already starting doing so even though they can’t be vetted properly! They are on a suicide mission out here! It sounds like they are back there as well! Only time will tell how this bright idea will turn out! If Europe is any indication it’s not looking good!!!
Bill says
Dude you are so full ofshit…muslims did this destruction and you know it to be true…if you side with them you are one of them and not an American…you sir are a traitor
Alan says
I’m s ok since its Christian statuary but by golly put bacon on a mosque and the FBI gets involved and every talking head in the media will be on air decrying the horrific, despicable far right, bigoted, racist, islamaphobic hate crime. Ohhhh the horror the horror
Baucent says
Exactly. There is an extraordinary double standard at play here.
Christianblood says
Those evil muslims who did this definitely hate Christianity and its symbols and want all Christians convert to islam or die but they are also following the example set for them by their anti-Christian, radical secularist Western allies who recently and publicly put a figure of Saint Marry and a Crucifix in a jar, filled with urine and called it ‘arts’. I have no doubt that muslims would not have done something like this in the West if they were not encouraged and emboldened by the West’s own deep anti-Christian postmodernist attitudes.
Angemon says
What are you smoking? Muslims have defaced and destroyed Christian symbols centuries before post-modernism existed. Go push your anti-Western agenda elsewhere.
Christianblood says
Angemon posted:
(…Muslims have defaced and destroyed Christian symbols centuries before post-modernism existed…)
That is true Angemon and they did those things and still do them in their muslim countries but in the West, those muslims are really encouraged and emboldened to continue doing these things in the West by the West’s own deep Anti-Christian attitudes. For example, when muslims in the West witness groups such as “Piss Christ” who are publicly putting a figure of Saint Marry and a Crucifix in a jar filled with urine and feces and calling it ‘arts’ what do you expect muslims in the West to do? To venerate Christian symbols? Read it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ
mortimer says
Free speech is no good in theory, unless we use it. Vandalism of someone else’s property isn’t considered freedom of expression, but trespassing and property damage.
You can burn Bibles you purchased yourself, but if you burn Korans you purchased yourself, the Obama government will find a devious way to put you in jail and defy the First Amendment freedom.
Islam approves of vigilante murder and so if you burn a Koran in the USA, Muslims in other countries will burn live Americans in revenge as if the Koran is a person or even better than dozens of dirty kafirs.
Where is all the hatred coming from? From the Koran, Sira, hadiths, commentaries, Sharia law and Islamic history…and of course from one million mullahs.
Christianblood says
Angemon
Just to follow up on this, do you know what happened to them when a group of Westernized, anti-Christian Russian radical feminists known “Pusssy Riot” desecrated a Church by their atheistic hoologanism songs? They went to jail for over a year by desecrating Christianity by performing their atheistic hooliganism in a holy Christian church and they cannot do it again in Russia because there will be a huge outcry made by the Orthodox Christians in Russia. You can check it out below:
Angemon says
Christianblood posted:
“They went to jail for over a year by desecrating Christianity by performing their atheistic hooliganism in a holy Christian church and they cannot do it again in Russia because there will be a huge outcry made by the Orthodox Christians in Russia.”
IIRC, the so-called “atheistic hooliganism” was a prayer to drive away Putin. Seems like they were incarcerated for opposing Putin, not for being atheists or anti-Christians. But if, as you claim, being anti-Christian is punishable with prison, why are mosques open in Russia and why are muslim clerics allowed to preach hatred of Christians, Orthodox or otherwise?
Peggy says
Doing that is in extremely poor taste but illegal it is not and shouldn’t be illegal.
What frustrates me is that Christians are shamed and fored from their jobs for upsetting Muslims with words or cartoons but when Muslims do worse they are excused and nobody is shamed.
I believe in a free society and if people want to be vulgar then they can but public opinion will turn against them. They can do whatever they want with their property but when they vandalize other people’s property or public property like Pussy Riot did then they deserve jail time.
This is not Russia being fascist but Russia applying law against vandalism.
If those silly girls wanted to express themselves against Putin they could have taken their protest to the streets and held signs. They had no right to vandalize any property.
As long as Muslims vandalize their own property it’s fine but when they do this to someone else they deserve to be caught and put in jail. Unfortunately it’s only a non Muslim who will end up there for defacing a mosque, not the other way around.
Gracea says
For Islam, the figure of Mary is very important: she is the mother of the Prophet Jesus conceived in virginity, and the Blessed Virgin is the most holy woman. Muslims pray at the Marian shrines in the Middle East. It is important not to feed mutual suspicion, especially at this time
Angemon says
Gracea posted:
“For Islam, the figure of Mary is very important: she is the mother of the Prophet Jesus conceived in virginity, and the Blessed Virgin is the most holy woman.”
Islam lies about Mary and Christians when it says that Christians took Mary as part of the Trinity.
“Muslims pray at the Marian shrines in the Middle East.”
Then they are apostates because, according to islam, muslims should pray to allah alone. It’s to prevent such temptations that ISIS is blowing up shrines it captures.
“It is important not to feed mutual suspicion, especially at this time”
It is more important to keep a clear head and recognize things as they are, not as we wanted them to be.
Christianblood says
Peggy posted:
(…but when they vandalize other people’s property or public property like Pussy Riot did then they deserve jail time. This is not Russia being fascist but Russia applying law against vandalism. If those silly girls wanted to express themselves against Putin they could have taken their protest to the streets and held signs…)
Well-said Peggy! Many people in Russia believe that those Pussy Riot girls were on the pay role of the “regime changers” and it was a small way to create some political chaose and some instability in Russia and they will definitely try the same tactics again using (of course) “democracy” and the “human rights” cards.
Angemon says
Again, you’re removing all initiative and thoughts from muslims and presenting them as nothing but reactive creatures with no mind and intentions of their own. What’s your excuse for, for example, the wars in Chechnya? Was there some sort of hiper-mega Piss Christ in there that emboldened muslims to war?
gravenimage says
So true, Angemon.
miriamrove says
Are you smoking hashish today? M
mortimer says
“Christianblood” wrote: “atheistic hooliganism in a holy Christian church and they cannot do it”
If you approve of fascism, then you are a fascist. You are stating that YOUR Russian theocratic fascism is better than Islamic theocratic fascism. However, both are equally subjective and violate the UNDHR.
You appear to be hopelessly obscurantist as well as a proponent of fascism. Your philosophy was condemned at Nuremburg.
It is people like you who particularly need to read the following, but you will no doubt ignore it or not understand it:
Alice More: Arrest him! More: Why, what has he done? Margaret More: He’s bad! More: There is no law against that. Will Roper: There is! God’s law! More: Then God can arrest him. Alice: While you talk, he’s gone! More: And go he should, if he was the Devil himself, until he broke the law! Roper: So now you’d give the Devil benefit of law! More: Yes. What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil? Roper: I’d cut down every law in England to do that! More: Oh? And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned ’round on you, where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country’s planted thick with laws from coast to coast– man’s laws, not God’s– and if you cut them down—and you’re just the man to do it—do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I’d give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety’s sake.
Christianblood says
Mortimer
You sound like another frustrated liberal playing the “fascist” card when they cannot explain or handle the argument at hand… The fact is the Anti-Christian liberal fascism that exists in the Western world cannot be tolerated in Russia and in many Orthodox countries in the Eastern European countries. That is not “fascism” that is because there is huge cultural and worldview differences btwn the East and the East. For example, there will be huge social revulsion and riots in the East if some group tries do what the “Piss Christ” group did in America a few years back. Please see it below:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piss_Christ
African infidel says
@ Christianblood:
To the Western eye the above photo of the Crucifixion, St. Marry immersed in urine & feces is an “Art”. To the Russians it is a disgusting sacrilegious travesty. I agree with Russians. Another thing is that Westerners cannot ridicule islam like they do to Christianity all the time because they are really scared of muslims. Remember “Charlie Hebdo” in Paris? They cannot ridicule islam which is deserves to be ridiculed because, they, Westerners are really Cowards!
Christianblood says
African infidel posted:
(…To the Western eye the above photo of the Crucifixion, St. Marry immersed in urine & feces is an “Art”. To the Russians it is a disgusting sacrilegious travesty. I agree with Russians. Another thing is that Westerners cannot ridicule islam like they do to Christianity all the time because they are really scared of muslims…)
Wow! So true African! And the funniest thing is that they are really scared to offending muslims and they have also lost all their senses of religious sentimentality and yet they are ready to call Russians and other Orthodox Christians ‘fascists’ for defending their religious beliefs and symbols. If you don’t strictly prescribe to their narrow-minded, secular and postmodernist worldview they will try to silence you by calling names such as ‘fascist’ and ‘islamophobe’ or ‘homophobe’ etc.
mortimer says
When you approve of arbitrary measures, you are a fascist. You didn’t understand my previous post as I expected. Touché.
revereridesagain says
Robert Bolt’s great, ringing speech written for “Saint” Thomas More. Unfortunately, the Sainted More, who approved of the burning of heretics, appears to have been quite unworthy of Bolt’s eloquence.
Although I suppose “Christianblood” might approve of such punishment for “atheistic hooliganism”. What say you, “Christianblood”? Miss the “good ol’ days” when you could burn us to a crisp for “insulting” your first century mystery cult dying and rising god?
Peggy says
mortimer says
March 30, 2016 at 3:02 pm
“Christianblood” wrote: “atheistic hooliganism in a holy Christian church and they cannot do it”
If you approve of fascism, then you are a fascist. You are stating that YOUR Russian theocratic fascism is better than Islamic theocratic fascism. However, both are equally subjective and violate the UNDHR
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I believe you are missing the point.
They are vandalizing a church which is owned by parisioners so it becomes private property and there are laws against vandalizing private property.
It has nothing to do with fascism.
Now if Pussy Riot owned that church then it would be a different case and I would agree that they shouldn’t be prosecuted.
gravenimage says
“Christianblood” wrote:
For example, there will be huge social revulsion and riots in the East if some group tries do what the “Piss Christ” group did in America a few years back.
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I am no fan of the “Piss Christ” or Ofili’s dung virgin.
But the idea that the civilized response is to riot in the streets like barbaric Mohammedans is grotesque.
Christianblood says
revereridesagain
I am an Orthodox Christian and Orthodox Christians did not commit those crimes you mentioned above. It was the Western Roman Catholic church which committed those crimes. Have you ever been to Russia, Serbia, Greece etc? You need to work on your church history ‘revereridesagain’…
Christianblood says
gravenimage posted:
(…But the idea that the civilized response is to riot…)
“civilized response” what is that? political-correctness?
gravenimage says
“Christianblood” wrote:
“civilized response” what is that?
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It should surprise no one that the appalling “Christianblood” is flummoxed at the idea of a “civilized response”.
The truth is that he hates freedom of expression far more than he does Muslim savagery.
Christianblood says
gravenimage
My definition of the word “civilized response” is very different from yours. What you consider “civilized response” in your Western context may be considered a politically-correct response in another context and it would not be right to assume that everyone should agree with your particular definition of it.
Fessitude says
I’m less bothered by a “Piss Christ” allowed to be promoted as an art exhibit, than with an Islam respected & protected as a world religion, when it is a seditious ideology that has been killing us, is killing us now, and plans to kill us more horribly and unpredictably in the future, with the intent to destroy our society.
The separate but related argument that a cultural acceptance of a “Piss Christ” is related to a cultural acceptance of and respect for Islam is interesting, but if one holds fast to the principle of a zero tolerance for Islam and makes that the sine qua non standards, that would be the most economical way of weeding out the politically correct chaff from the wheat.
If it turns out that all people who countenance a “Piss Christ” also happen to be soft on Muslims, then a tough stance on all who are soft on Muslims will embrace in its net them (those who countenance a “Piss Christ”) anyway. But if one complicates the issue beforehand with non-Islamic concerns, it may impede the overall process.
Angemon says
Fessitude posted:
“If it turns out that all people who countenance a “Piss Christ” also happen to be soft on Muslims, then a tough stance on all who are soft on Muslims will embrace in its net them (those who countenance a “Piss Christ”) anyway.”
What would that “thought stance” be? I’m talking about objective, real-world measures – how do you propose to define who is “soft” and what would your alleged “though stance” entail?
“But if one complicates the issue beforehand with non-Islamic concerns, it may impede the overall process.”
Yes, let’s not worry about anything non-islamic – let’s not try to understand the cultural shift that allowed the growth of islamophilia and the overall victim-industry and virtue signalling that permeates society these days. Let’s ignore cultural marxism. Let’s ignore “The Coddling of the American Mind” (great article, look it up). No, all we need to do is focus on one tree while ignoring the rest of the forest.
I bet you’re one of those people going “I don’t care what Trump said in the aftermath of the Garland shooting, he said he’d ban muslims from entering the US therefore you all need to let Garland go and support him 100% or else you’re all softies who don’t understand a thing and are letting your ethical narcissism getting in the way of getting things done”.
Adrian says
Well, two clowns place a sliver of BACON on a mosque doorknob and get 9 and 12 months in the slammer, PLUS international news coverage about such an OUTRAGE…
while this desecration will never survive past local news…
TS Eliot: “this is the way the world ends… not with a bang, but a whimper”
Adrian says
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-27941589
jihad3tracker says
The Boston Globe has been a privilege guilt multicultural news “resource” for at least a couple of years. Use the JW search box for “Lisa Wangsness” to bring up some of what Robert posted about the lies, omissions, and distortions which the Globe engages in when Islam and Muslims are involved in whatever it reports on.
BTW, if there is a comment section for this item at the Globe, check out what readers say. Remember though, that — just as with the Washington Post — remarks from respondents who actually ARE KNOWLEDGEABLE AND FACTUAL are very often deleted.
I have been permanently banned from commenting on any Islam-related piece in the Washington Post — they won’t admit it, but my remarks always remain up for about one minute and then disappear. Similar occurrences might happen to you all, too, at any Leftist media entity.
Hope says
Oh, the Boston Globe is one of the most shameful pieces of leftist garbage around today. I would not use it for toilet paper, it would be beneath my dignity.
Peggy says
Your backside would be insulted as well.
mortimer says
First they deface the statues…then they will deface the people.
gravenimage says
So true, Mortimer–they won’t stop here, as we see every day in countries with larger Muslim populations.
miriamrove says
Hi Robert! Looking at the writing of the word Allah that written on the statue is not correct. It seems that someone is trying a prank, but then again….m
Charli Main says
With great respect M, hundreds of millions of Muslims are not Arabic speakers or readers. This could have been written by a ” plastic” wanna be Arab.
miriamrove says
Hi Charli! That is why I gave myself an out by saying “then again”. M
Karen says
🙂
Peggy says
You’re right, it could’ve been a prank but the sad thing is that the police will be too scared to investigate in case it’s genuine.
salim says
Assuming they meant Allah, then the first letter (looks like I ) is missing. Still, it correctly reads “lillah” meaning “for Allah”.
They surely did it for the sake of Allah.
mortimer says
If you compare the hasty graffito on the statue with ” allah + google + image “, you will find a number of calligraphies that are similar. The pointing was correct. It is stylized calligraphy, and not copybook writing. It obviously means ‘Allah’.
gravenimage says
The perpetrators were probably just semi-literate.
Western Canadian says
More proof that they were muslim??
Charli Main says
“The statue has been there for generations.”…
and would of been there for generations yet to come but for the importation of Muslim supremacists whose objective is to destroy all things non Islamic.
St Monica 2010 says
The Santa Monica Statue got a good plastering all along the main ocean front about five years ago. At the same time Culver City churches took a hit. Very liberal areas. A Muslim “lunatic” got congratulated by his community and the local Catholics lit candles and stood around. Nothing to do with Islam. Five years later in the spaces within and around the southwest especially the Muslims are training like crazy. It is truly bizarro.
gravenimage says
Yes–I remember that story. Did they ever catch the perp?
Burt says
Catholics fooled by charitable excesses that cause blindness, often trot out how much ‘devotion’ Muslims accord Our Lady, merely because she is mentioned in Islamic texts!
Their ignorance and deficiency of knowledge, belies the utter barbarism of the ignorant dolt Mohammad, who gleaned from what he loosely picked up from Jews, Gnostics and what not, to frame his own cult.
He mistook the Blessed Virgin, Mother of God, for Miriam, Aaron’s wife, in Genesis on account of her name.
In Hadith it is said that Mohammad assured his wife Khadijah, on her deathbed that she would share his chamber in Paradise with three other famous ladies, including the Virgin Mary!
Islam is nothing if not a blasphemy invented by Satan to ensure as many souls as possible are hindered from knowing the truth.
VOJ says
Hurry! We need to “dialogue” about this right away.
Dan says
Even though Catholicism is a false religion, the other side of the coin shows that Islam is growing in America…
More End Time News At:
http://www.shininginthedark.com/?page_id=6088
mortimer says
It shows neither really. Jihad is normative Islam…jihad is growing as Muslims become more Muslim.
Jerry says
Islamic gang symbols painted on one of Christianity’s most sacred symbols. It might as well be urine or feces, it would be no worse than that graffiti for allah. Christ said “love your enemy.” But I’m sure he didn’t mean love the evil they do. As an atheist I’m nobody to preach Christianity, but it seems to me that Christ’s greatness did not come from moral weakness. He fought religious hypocrisy and social injustice with his life. I’m sure he would have had compassion for these allah fools. But he would also have stood firmly against the evils their faith teaches. I stand against islam because I know it’s the right thing to do. Divine love is not born of compulsion and murder, as islam teaches; the right path to god cannot be paved with the bodies of murdered innocents. Whether Christ was truly god or not, I don’t know. But I’m sure that what he and his followers stand for is infinitely better than islam’s dark plans and schemes. I’m not a Christian, but I’m glad I live in a world where Christianity exists. That’s what I stand for, what I’m willing to defend, even as an atheist.
Champ says
Hear, hear, Jerry.
gravenimage says
Good post, Jerry.
Burt says
” I’m not a Christian, but I’m glad I live in a world where Christianity exists. That’s what I stand for, what I’m willing to defend, even as an atheist.”
Amen to that Bro.
bridgette says
Churches in Windsor Canada were vandalized too.
gravenimage says
Yes–I read about this. This is just going to become more common with more Muslims flooding into the West.
Hope says
When a mosque is vandalized with spray paint, the liberal media goes nuts. The story makes national news because the left adores stories about victims from “marginalized” groups, boo hoo. Then, Christian church representatives from the affected town get together and hold hands with the Muslims (and CAIR) and publicly decry the Islamofauxbia. And when a Christian church is defaced, do you see the Muslims come forward with any support? You have a better chance of seeing Jimi Hendrix in Walmart.
Ashley says
Again, as I posted on the other thread regarding the defacing of another statue of Mary in Massachusetts, this doesn’t strike me as garden variety vandalism.
This stuff is more sinister, more malevolent, more vicious. Severed head and hands? Spray painted in black from her head to her torso (burka?) Graffiti tagged with an Arabic version of Allah at the base of the statue?
These incidents coincided with the Christian observances surrounding Easter. The Boston Marathon is just a few weeks away…
I don’t like what I’m feeling…at all.
gravenimage says
Yes–this is very disturbing.
I’m against all vandalism, but some is just the work of bored teens, and some is considerably more malevolent.
Ashley says
Yes, Graven. I believe this spate of attacks on church statues in Massachusetts falls under the “considerably more malevolent” category. Sure…it could be some teenage punks getting their rocks off, but I don’t think so. Punks tend to do shit like steal the baby Jesus from the nativity or glue a beer can in the hands of the Magi. I believe the objective in these cases was to shock and outrage. The images are of a violent nature, and there’s no escaping the Allah graffiti tag.
Interesting…it appears three statues were defaced on the same church property.
http://patch.com/massachusetts/burlington/statues-vandalized-st-margarets-police-investigating-0
gravenimage says
Ashley, I know there are a slew of Mosques in the Newton area–really, throughout the greater Boston region.
I would not be surprised if this rash of attacks is due to Kutbahs–“sermons”–at one of the local Mosques.
Berzrkr50 says
You want to catch the people that did it? Put up a statue of Allah (piss be upon him) in a well known spot and splatter it with feces. When the statue is finished publish an announcement in the local paper and just wait. The perp(s) will show up sooner or later…
revereridesagain says
Local media reports have been covering up the “Allah” tag by characterizing it as “graffiti” and/or by not showing it at all (lest someone recognize the Arabic, no doubt), using only video of the statue after it was partically cleaned.
http://www.whdh.com/story/31573479/virgin-mary-statue-at-norwood-church-vandalized
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/03/26/blessed-virgin-mary-statue-vandalism-norwood-church/
http://www.wcvb.com/news/parish-devastated-after-vandals-deface-church-statue-before-easter/38711044
And my personal favorite:
http://turnto10.com/news/local/statue-of-the-virgin-mary-vandalized-outside-of-a-norwood-church
I wonder if the charge of “hate crime” will stick if the perp is found to be a… MUSLIM!
There was also an incident of statue decapitation and removal of hands in Burlington, some miles northeast of Norwood. No definite evidence of a correlation between the two, but my suspicions are aroused.
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2016/03/29/3-statues-vandalized-catholic-church-burlington/
There is a Muslim Brotherhood-linked Islamic center in Burlington that was tagged with “hate speech” last year. “USA” of course, being “hate speech” when sprayed on an Islamic building, certainly in violation of Sharia law.
revereridesagain says
Update on Statue-gate: there has been another incident of decapitating and otherwise mutilating religious statues, this time in Billerica, about 5 miles from the Burlington church that was vandalized.
Meanwhile, look what the Boston PD found taking pictures inside the Callahan Tunnel, which runs under Boston Harbor, at 5 o’clock in the morning:
http://www.whdh.com/story/31604045/man-arrested-after-taking-pictures-inside-callahan-tunnel
Ashley says
Whoa…
The clip on my end was pretty sketchy but I caught the gist that the dude thought he could WALK through the tunnel and that photos of the inside of the tunnel were somehow “landscape-worthy.”
YIKES!
gravenimage says
Here’s this ugly story:
“Virgin Mary statue vandalized at Billerica church”
http://www.whdh.com/story/31604147/virgin-mary-statue-vandalized-at-billerica-church
These cases are especially disturbing, because the statues were *beheaded*.
Jay Boo says
Something tells me that if Muslims were under constant backlash harassment and feeling victimized as they pretend to be, they would not have the time nor boldness to show their arrogance less than 15 miles from the Boston bombings.
The prayer mass in a cathedral was attended by Muslims who no doubt insisted to be there assuming the purpose of the Catholic was to reassure them. Obama and the news media attended and what should have been a dignified religious ceremony was co-opted once again into an (an interfaith service) to reassure Muslims they have every right to intrude.
Muslims are so uncouth.
Muslims really turn my stomach
Jay Boo says
insisted to be there assuming the purpose of the Catholic (mass) was to reassure them.
Al says
Over the past few years countless “hoaxes” have been pulled by various individuals belonging to various groups in an effort to paint other groups as the guilty ones. How many times have we seen this? Blacks leaving “KKK” and other anti-black signs and slogans on black churches to make it appear they’re being targeted by white supremacists. Muslims leaving pigs heads and anti-Muslim graffiti at mosques to make it appear they’re being targeted by “Islamophobes.” Again and again we see this.
I would wager this damage was done by atheists, not the group being pointed to as the perpetrators.
Ashley says
I would wager this damage was done by atheists, not the group being pointed to as the perpetrators.
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As an atheist, I find your comment particularly hateful, spiteful and repugnant.
gravenimage says
Ridiculous. Muslims regularly desecrate and blow up churches. There is no such history of Atheists doing this kind of thing.
Are you saying that “Atheists” blew up the Bamiyan Buddhas in Afghanistan, or have razed antiquities in Palmyra, or destroyed Hindu Temples in Pakistan, or have burned down churches in Nigeria, to “make Islam look bad”?
Charli Main says
@ GI
Muslim apologists and excusers are never slow to blame ” others” for the behaviour and activities of their Muslim cohorts.
gravenimage says
So true, Charli.
خَليفة says
A civilized person ( be it an atheist, agnostic or religious person ) is respectful of others religious beliefs, they just don’t believe.
A civilized person ( be it an atheist, agnostic or religious person ) is not offended when some gives them a religious greeting, and has no issue in returning a similar greeting.
It’s the “civilized” part that matters, all other characteristics are far less important.
FYI, you appear a bit uncivilized
Karen says
“It’s disrespectful to every religion,”
I’m really struck by the nearly identical comments made by two people interviewed in the article. They seem to have reflexively applied the multicultural perspective, and denied the possibility of religious intolerance (or possibly supremacism.) How interesting. My first thought would have been that some drunken teenagers had been out the previous night. But why did these people immediately think it could *not* have been a religiously motivated attack? Perhaps the low level hum we’ve been reading about, or conscience that Ralph Sidway wrote about today, mixed with a little Catholic interfaith dogma.
gravenimage says
Massachusetts: Another Virgin Mary statue defaced, “Allah” painted in Arabic on its base
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Remember this the next time some Taqiyya-artist natters on about how Islam respects Jesus and Mary.
Baucent says
Muslims have been defacing religious imagery for centuries and nothing will stop them now. Remember the Buddha statues the Taliban blew up? They were defaced long before in the muslim era. Likewise Christian ikons in Turkey are largely defaced in abandoned churches. I once saw a travel TV program on a visit to the caves in Cappadocia, East Turkey. In a cave chapel the faces of all the painted images on the walls had been scraped off. A tourist asked the Turkish guide why that had happened and he was stumped for an answer. Not wanting to admit local muslims had vandalised the chapel. Respect? There is no respect forthcoming from muslims to people of other faiths.
bostongal912 says
Are they going to do everything to find out who did it? Probably not! But when it was bacon on a mosque door and other vandalism in Florida they freaked out! They got finger prints and arrested the guy! Can you say double standard?
Dave says
http://www.bostonherald.com/news/local_coverage/2016/03/vandals_attack_second_statue_of_virgin_mary
There are now three cases of vandalism ,Norwood,Burlington and Billerica, might be a art critic acting out.
خَليفة says
Curious question:
Wouldn’t putting Allah’s name on a statue be creating an idol of Allah?
In this case I guess it means Allah is a black woman with white feet.
Truth Seeker says
Now Westerners are Digging Own Grave. Jihadis come with the Mask of Refugees. Governments of Western Countries give them Warm Welcome. There is Influence of Islamic Trojan Horses is such that, these Governments are Puppetized by them.
Since Westerners went away fro Lord God, they will have to face its Consequences.
Unless they Turn to God, they have to be prepared for Destruction. See Egyptian Civilization, Persian Civilization etc were Buried. Fate of West is heading to that.
Jim says
So federal authorities will get involved in the investigation now, right?… This is a hate crime and should be investigated as such. If it’s Muslims then take them down to the nearest railroad and time them to the tracks. This problem isn’t gonna go away by itself. Obama wants the collapse of America. He wants what happens to whites in South Africa …many started being murdered, children, families, etc….once apartheid was done away with. I don’t agree with apartheid but look what happen after it ended. South Africa become a shit hole, whites here being murdered and discriminated against. Obama won’t be happy till he sees this country in ruins. Hopefully after he is out of office all the morons who supported him will actually realize their mistakes and begin to talk freely how much of a loser, liar he was and still is. I mean they still talk bad about George W till this day when it’s Obama who has crippled this country, divided this country, ruined the economy, made a joke of us worldwide, has blood on his hands of innocent America, soldiers and police officers.
ninetyninepct says
Catholics should be protesting violently. burning, raping, killing, stabbing, just like islam does. Mosques must be attacked and those inside burned to death, just like islam does.
sham says
BROTHER DON’T PRO VACATE SOME INVALID FALSE FLAG NEWS ……..WE MUSLIM CAN’T DO THAT………WE R NOT LIKE TO
BURN
Narrated ‘Ikrima:
Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to ‘Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn ‘Abbas who said, “If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle forbade it, saying, ‘Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).’………..
RAPE
rape-stone death
Dawud :: Book 38 : Hadith 4366
Narrated Wa’il ibn Hujr:
When a woman went out in the time of the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) for prayer, a man attacked her and overpowered (raped) her. .He (the Prophet) said to her: Go away, for Allah has forgiven you. But he told the man some good words (AbuDawud said: meaning the man who was seized), and of the man who had had intercourse with her, he said: Stone him to death.
KILLING
Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 83 :: Hadith 49
Narrated ‘Abdullah bin ‘Amr:
The Prophet said, “Whoever killed a Mu’ahid (a person who is granted the pledge of protection by the Muslims) shall not smell the fragrance of Paradise though its fragrance can be smelt at a distance of forty years (of traveling).”
STABBING
Dawud :: Book 14 : Hadith 2763
Narrated AbuHurayrah:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Faith prevented assassination. A believer should not assassinate.
gravenimage says
Endless spam from sham:
BROTHER DON’T PRO VACATE SOME INVALID FALSE FLAG NEWS ……..WE MUSLIM CAN’T DO THAT………WE R NOT LIKE TO
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“False flag”, huh? Is suppose all 28,000+ Jihad terror attacks were done by Infidels to “make Muslims look bad”. sarc/off
More:
BURN
Narrated ‘Ikrima:
Some Zanadiqa (atheists) were brought to ‘Ali and he burnt them. The news of this event, reached Ibn ‘Abbas who said, “If I had been in his place, I would not have burnt them, as Allah’s Apostle forbade it, saying, ‘Do not punish anybody with Allah’s punishment (fire).’………..
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Notice what the appalling sham is doing. He–like all pious Muslms–has no problem with his foul coreligionists slaughtering Atheists–he just takes issue with the method they use. *Ugh*.
More:
RAPE
rape-stone death
Dawud :: Book
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Yes, we know that Islam enjoins having rape victims stoned to death. Why would we decent Infidels consider that a good thing?
More:
Narrated Wa’il ibn Hujr:
When a woman went out in the time of the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) for prayer, a man attacked her and overpowered (raped) her. .He (the Prophet) said to her: Go away, for Allah has forgiven you.
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Why should a victim have to be forgiven for *being raped*?
More:
But he told the man some good words (AbuDawud said: meaning the man who was seized), and of the man who had had intercourse with her, he said: Stone him to death.
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Only a Mohammedan would consider hearing of a stoning to be “good words”. *Ugh*.
More:
Narrated AbuHurayrah:
The Prophet (peace_be_upon_him) said: Faith prevented assassination. A believer should not assassinate.
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Well, that is just ludicrous. The violent “Prophet” himself had his peaceful critic Marwan bint Asma assassinated for daring to say that he was violent:
“When the apostle heard what she had said he said, “Who will rid me of Marwan’s daughter?” `Umayr b. `Adiy al-Khatmi who was with him heard him, and that very night he went to her house and killed her. In the morning he came to the apostle and told him what he had done and he [Muhammad] said, “You have helped God and His apostle, O `Umayr!” When he asked if he would have to bear any evil consequences the apostle said, ‘Two goats won’t butt their heads about her’, so `Umayr went back to his people.”
“SARIYYAH OF `UMAYR IBN `ADI
Then (occurred) the sariyyah of `Umayr ibn `Adi Ibn Kharashah al-Khatmi against `Asma’ Bint Marwan, of Banu Umayyah Ibn Zayd, when five nights had remained from the month of Ramadan, in the beginning of the nineteenth month from the hijrah of the apostle of Allah. `Asma’ was the wife of Yazid Ibn Zayd Ibn Hisn al-Khatmi. She used to revile Islam, offend the prophet and instigate the (people) against him. She composed verses. Umayr Ibn Adi came to her in the night and entered her house. Her children were sleeping around her. There was one whom she was suckling. He searched her with his hand because he was blind, and separated the child from her. He thrust his sword in her chest till it pierced up to her back. Then he offered the morning prayers with the prophet at al-Medina. The apostle of Allah said to him: “Have you slain the daughter of Marwan?” He said: “Yes. Is there something more for me to do?” He [Muhammad] said: “No. Two goats will butt together about her. This was the word that was first heard from the apostle of Allah. The apostle of Allah called him `Umayr, “basir” (the seeing).”
How can the witless sham think we don’t know this?
And what’s with the random and off-topic videos he posted? Did these somehow drop out, or is he becoming even more erratic and unhinged?
sham says
PROTECTION OF NON ISLAMIC RELIGIOUS PLACES RESPONSIBLE OF MUSLIM:
22:40. those who have been expelled from their homes unjustly only because they said: “Our Lord is Allah.” – For had it not been that Allah checks one set of people by means of another, monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques, wherein the Name of Allah is mentioned much would surely have been pulled down. Verily, Allah will help those who help His (Cause). Truly, Allah is All-Strong, All-Mighty.
NO FIGHT WITH PEACEFUL PEOPLE
3: 195. So their Lord accepted of them (their supplication and answered them), “Never will I allow to be lost the work of any of you, be the male or female. You are (members) one of another, so those who emigrated and ”””””’were driven out from their homes”””””””, and suffered harm in My Cause, and who fought, and were killed (in My Cause), verily, I will remit from them their evil deeds and admit them into Gardens under which rivers flow (in Paradise); a reward from Allah, and with Allah is the best of rewards.”
2: 246. Have you not thought about the group of the Children of Israel after (the time of) Musâ (Moses)? When they said to a Prophet of theirs, “Appoint for us a king and we will fight in Allâh’s Way.” He said, “Would you then refrain from fighting, if fighting was prescribed for you?” They said, “Why should we not fight in Allâh’s Way while ””’we have been driven out of our homes””””’ and our children (families have been taken as captives)?” But when fighting was ordered for them, they turned away, all except a few of them. And Allâh is All-Aware of the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers).
2: 205. And when he turns away (from you “O Muhammad SAW “), his effort in the land is to make mischief therein and to destroy the crops and the cattle, and Allah likes not mischief.
7: 56. And do not do mischief on the earth, after it has been set in order, and invoke Him with fear and hope; Surely, Allah’s Mercy is (ever) near unto the good doers.
7: 85……..Verily, a clear proof (sign) from your Lord has come unto you; so give full measure and full weight and wrong not men in their things, and do not mischief on the earth after it has been set in order, that will be better for you, if you are believers.
SpiritOf1683 says
Oh yes, we saw last week in Pakistan how Christians are ‘protected’ in Muslim countriies. No amount of spamming from you can fool us here, eh savage.
gravenimage says
Yet more spam from sham:
PROTECTION OF NON ISLAMIC RELIGIOUS PLACES RESPONSIBLE OF MUSLIM:
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We see what this “protection” means every day as Muslims around the world burn down Churches, destroy Hindu Temples, blow up Buddhist statuary, and attack Synagogues.
More:
22:40. For had it not been that Allah checks one set of people by means of another, monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques, wherein the Name of Allah is mentioned much would surely have been pulled down.
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The next Ayat, Qur’an 22:41, makes clear this refers to Jews and Christians who have *converted to Islam*:
“[And they are] those who, if We give them authority in the land, establish prayer and give zakah and enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong. And to Allah belongs the outcome of [all] matters.”
It does *not* refer to Jews and Christians who have retained their faith.
More:
NO FIGHT WITH PEACEFUL PEOPLE
3: 195. So their Lord accepted of them (their supplication and answered them), “Never will I allow to be lost the work of any of you, be the male or female. You are (members) one of another, so those who emigrated and ”””””’were driven out from their homes”””””””, and suffered harm in My Cause, and who fought, and were killed (in My Cause), verily, I will remit from them their evil deeds and admit them into Gardens under which rivers flow (in Paradise); a reward from Allah, and with Allah is the best of rewards.”
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Just the same. This does not refer to Infidels, but to Muslims. And not just Muslims, but *JIhadists*. That’s what the reference to ‘fighting…in Allah’s cause’ is.
More:
2: 246. Have you not thought about the group of the Children of Israel after (the time of) Musâ (Moses)? When they said to a Prophet of theirs, “Appoint for us a king and we will fight in Allâh’s Way.” He said, “Would you then refrain from fighting, if fighting was prescribed for you?” They said, “Why should we not fight in Allâh’s Way while ””’we have been driven out of our homes””””’ and our children (families have been taken as captives)?” But when fighting was ordered for them, they turned away, all except a few of them. And Allâh is All-Aware of the Zâlimûn (polytheists and wrong-doers).
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This is not about protecting Infidels–it is castigating Jews for not being good Muslims and Jihadists.
More:
2: 205. And when he turns away (from you “O Muhammad SAW “), his effort in the land is to make mischief therein and to destroy the crops and the cattle, and Allah likes not mischief.
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Nope–this isn’t about protecting Infidels, either.
sham is, I’m afraid, an uncommonly inept Taqiyya artist–and goodness knows that is saying a great deal, given the general caliber.
Gilchrist says
Gee, all these educated people claiming how this hurts all faiths and not one Muslim commenting so far in the thread. Anyone claiming that Muslims hold Mary as venerated or honored has not been paying attention to history since the seventh century.
shosh7154 says
Catholicism is the same as islam….fingers on the same hand….Catholicism has killed more Jews than all islam….the inquisition and the crusades and the various cardinals and even the pope blessing the Nazi rallies and now Catholicism is the face of the intifada in Israel when the dishdasha wearing, bead pushing catholic priests stand with the dishdasha wearing, bead pushing murdering arab muslim inside the Jewish state.
shosh7154 says
ALL CATHOLICS AND MUSLIM, YOU ARE ON NOTICE …. THE KING OF THE JEWS IS PREPARING HIS WAR HORSE FOR BATTLE AND THE KING IS A JEW AND A ZIONIST
PREPARE TO FACE THE ONLY LIVING G-D
RiseAKnight says
For those commenting who think this vandalism wasn’t done by a Muslim … please read my reply to GraceA.
GraceA – You are so wrong. Notice the name of “Allah” in Arabic graphic/script at the base of the statue. That could only have been done by a Muslim trained in Arabic script writing. Notice as well … the graphic/script symbol for Allah is the shape of a snake or serpent. The symbol for Satan is the snake.
RiseAKnight says
Norwood, Burlington, Billerica …
Police … start your investigation here …
Islamic Center of Burlington
130 Lexington Street, MA 01803
781-229-0336