“When the Jewish women left the sanctuary to begin setting up for dinner, the Muslims stayed behind to lay out mats for their evening prayers facing the ark, which points in the direction of both Jerusalem and Mecca.”
How delightfully broad-minded and ecumenical. But why did the Muslims only pray after the Jews left? Could the Jews have stayed for the Muslim prayers? And during the Muslim prayers in the Jewish sanctuary that night, were any of these Qur’an verses recited? Qur’an 3:181-182 excoriates the Jews for “slaying of prophets against all right” and says they are bound for hellfire; 5:51 tells Muslims: “Do not take the Jews and the Christians for your allies”; 5:64 says that the Jews are “rejected” by Allah; 9:29 tells Muslims to fight against the “People of the Book” (Jews and Christians) “until they pay the jizya [poll tax] with willing submission and feel themselves subdued”; 9:30 claims that “the Jews say, ‘Ezra is Allah’s son’” and exclaims: “May Allah destroy them!”
There is more. The Qur’an states that in the Torah is “guidance and light” (5:44) and asks why the Jews approach Muhammad to settle their disputes: “But how is it that they come to you for judgment while they have the Torah, in which is the judgment of Allah?” (5:43). It also asserts, however, that the Qur’an is “the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it” (5:48).
The Jews, however, did not see the Qur’an as confirming their Scriptures, and did not convert to Islam en masse. The Qur’an explains this as a manifestation of their perversity and rebellion from Allah: “And when a messenger from Allah came to them confirming that which was with them, a party of those who had been given the Scripture threw the Scripture of Allah behind their backs as if they did not know” (2:101). Allah says of the Jews: “Is it not that every time they took a covenant a party of them threw it away? But most of them do not believe” (2:100).
Those Jews who did not accept Muhammad and Islam are “avid listeners to falsehood, listening to another people who have not come to you. They distort words beyond their usages” and are “the ones for whom Allah does not intend to purify their hearts.” They face the divine wrath in this world as well as the next: “For them in this world is disgrace, and for them in the Hereafter is a great punishment” (5:41). They are disgraced everywhere they go: “They have been put under humiliation wherever they are overtaken, except for a covenant from Allah and a rope from the Muslims. And they have drawn upon themselves anger from Allah and have been put under destitution. That is because they disbelieved in the verses of Allah and killed the prophets without right. That is because they disobeyed and transgressed” (2:89).
The Jews even dare to claim that “Allah did not reveal to a human being anything.” Allah instructs Muhammad to respond: “Say, ‘Who revealed the Scripture that Moses brought as light and guidance to the people? You make it into pages, disclosing it and concealing much. And you were taught that which you knew not — neither you nor your fathers. Say, ‘Allah.’ Then leave them in their discourse, amusing themselves” (6:91).
Ultimately, Allah transforms disobedient Jews into apes and pigs (2:63-66; 5:59-60; 7:166). Muslims should avoid such people: “O you who have believed, do not take the Jews and the Christians as allies. They are allies of one another. And whoever is an ally to them among you – then indeed, he is of them. Indeed, Allah guides not the wrongdoing people” (5:51). Now the Jews are accursed of Allah for rejecting the Qur’an: “And when there came to them a Book from Allah confirming that which was with them — although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved — but when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of Allah will be upon the disbelievers” (2:89). They are the worst enemies of the Muslims: “You will surely find the most intense of the people in animosity toward the believers the Jews…” (5:82).
The enemies of the Muslims, the killers of the prophets, dishonest, evil, subhuman, and accursed of Allah – this is the Qur’an’s picture of the Jews. Combine all that with the Qur’anic command to “kill them wherever you overtake them and expel them from wherever they have expelled you” (2:191), and one has come to the root of the implacable hostility among Muslims toward Israel.
Will any of these Muslim-Jewish outreach events feature any honest discussion of these Qur’an verses and others like them, and discuss ways to counter Islamic anti-Semitism? Almost certainly not. Why not? And will the Muslims be inviting the Jews over to the mosque and inviting them to pray there? If not, why not?
“Muslims, Jews break bread at shul event,” by Debra Rubin, New Jersey Jewish News, March 7, 2016
Local Jewish and Muslim women who have found that what unites them is greater than what divides them came together to bake hallah, chat, and enjoy traditional foods.
During the Feb. 21 program at Temple Rodeph Torah in Marlboro, the women watched as Rabbi Shira Stern, an educator at the synagogue and director of the Marlboro-based Center for Pastoral Care and Counseling, showed them how to braid the dough.
After the Jewish women recited Hamotzi over the freshly baked loaves, they joined together for a traditional dinner featuring specialties of their Middle Eastern, Pakistani, and Indian cultures.
“We came here in the interest of tolerance and peace and to learn about each other’s religion and culture,” said Zakiya Kathawala of Hazlet.
As the smell of the baking bread filled the temple, Muslim members of the group asked about the symbolism of the Hebrew lettering and items on the bima, including the Torah scrolls inside the ark.
Rabbi Donald Weber, who acknowledged he, rather than Stern, was handling the scrolls because “her hands were doughy,” took out a scroll originally from Iraq. As the women gathered around, he explained the painstaking way in which the text was written, its significance, and how it is read. At the Muslim women’s request, he also recited and translated a brief passage.
“The Torah is seen as a living being,” Weber explained. “That is why we reach out and touch and kiss it. We stand up when a Torah comes into a room.”
In response to a Muslim woman’s asking how many names Jews have for God, Weber said that tradition has it that there are 72 ways to describe the different aspects of God — “just like Don, Donald, abba, rabbi are all me,” he said.
“In the Koran we have 99 names for God, all describing his different attributes,” said one of the Muslim women, finding another commonality between the two religions.
When the Jewish women left the sanctuary to begin setting up for dinner, the Muslims stayed behind to lay out mats for their evening prayers facing the ark, which points in the direction of both Jerusalem and Mecca….

rubiconcrest says
Long ago it occurred to me that one of the main reasons for racism and bigotry is that groups of people separate along racial and religious lines. While I understand perfectly well what Robert is saying above, that Islam is incompatible with Jewish tradition on many levels, I strongly feel we should have more interfaith gatherings. The problem is the scripture not the individuals. Jewish and Christian religious leaders owe it to their members to be well versed in Islam, fully aware of the abrogated versus and the full context of verses frequently touted as meaning one thing when they mean something quite different, such as Quran 5:32. Churches should open their doors to interfaith and inter racial marriages and all other services. All the sexes should sit together. Cities should build interfaith centers where all faiths can worship together. Islam is the problem not the people. I know that behind nearly every Mosque in the US is the Muslim Brotherhood so I am saying force them to engage in taqiyya all the time. Ask simple questions; put religious leaders on the spot. The most important thing are people meeting others face to face and building relationships. Play the game but do it better. Islam thrives by curtailing speech we weaken ourselves by doing the same.
Paleologos says
Sorry, rubiconcrest,
… “While I understand perfectly well what Robert is saying above, that Islam is incompatible with Jewish tradition on many levels, I strongly feel we should have more interfaith gatherings. …”
You are missing the point.
islam does not mollify it’s position by “interfaith gatherings.” This has been Robert’s well documented position for years. You are making the same mistake that Pope Francis is making!
Wake up and smell the coffee! Please!
R/
Paleologos
Wellington says
Ditto, Paleologos. With you completely here.
mortimer says
‘Play the game (of dialogue) better’…you say?
Islamologist Dr. Hans Jansen wrote this about discussions with Muslims:
“When we appeal to an ancient classic Sharia handbook, and point to its bloodthirsty and explicit contents, they will say: ‘Oh, well, this is an old book, not relevant any longer, no normal average Muslim knows of this book’. When we quote modern contemporary sources of a similar nature, they will say: ‘Well, this is a recent innovation that has no meaning for the general picture of Islam’. If we quote both old and new sources, they will say that we bore them by repeating multiple irrelevancies. A strong stomach is an absolute requisite for anyone who joins such debates.”
In other words, rubicon, don’t count on winning any argument with a Muslim. They move the goal posts.
Shane says
I agree too! It does not do any good to have interfaith dialogue with the peaceful Muslims as the aggressive and violent Muslims will still kill, rape, or rob you even if you have a Muslim friend. Even Muslims are silenced and terrorized by the fanatical Muslims who emulate Muhammad. Our problem is that a certain percentage of Muslims in any country will become fanatics who want to kill and rape the enemies of Allah. The solution is to keep the number of Muslims in the USA at a very low percentage.
Commentators make the mistake to believe that the reason that Muslims in the USA are not as violent as the Muslims are in Europe is because the American Muslims have assimilated. Not true! The reason the Muslims in the USA are not as aggressive and violent as the Muslims in Europe is because the Muslims in the USA are below 2% of the population. If the percentage of Muslims rises to 10%, we will have the same problems that the Europeans are having.
gravenimage says
And all too often this “interfaith dialogue” on the part of Muslims is just Taqiyya to lull the foolish Kuffar into the belief that Islam is actually peaceful.
mgoldberg says
Interfaith gatherings- dragging everyone together to sing kumbaya changes nothing of the teachings, the core teachings of the tyranny of Islam. In fact, Islam is committed to such gatherings until all the non muslims are outnumbered, and are forced to becoming dhimmis or else converting. Apparently you haven’t read much about how all this interfaith has been used to overthrow all non muslim nations so encountered by Islam
Judi says
Exactly mgoldberg. How can these Jewish women, as well meaning as they are, expect the muzzrats, who have been indoctrinated to hate Jews for 1400 years, have a change of heart and suddenly decide over a slice of challa, to love and respect them. This interfaith crap is useless and the sooner they realise it the better.
mgoldberg says
Oh, that’s simple. They know very little of Torah or Talmud or history. They don’t learn from history so they only make up what they feel is most ‘progressive’
So… no questions about anything uncomfortable, like homicidal murdering of Jews and others, throughout muslim history and today, in Israel as the slaughterers yell allahu akbar.
No thinking about any of that…. because that would be…. impolite.
Westman says
I understand your wishful thoughts, rubiconcrest, and wish they could actually happen. But Islam has its hand set against every infidel, and even against variations within its own “brotherhood”.
If there ever is real integration of Islam into Western society it will be led by women who refuse to be slaves any longer and insist on a better life for their children.
Hope says
Yes, I agree with Westman. If there is any hope at all for Islam it lies with the women.
Pong says
What a great idea!
Jews should’ve done it in Germany, engaging nazzies in dialog. It would prevent the holocost for sure.
gravenimage says
Grimly hilarious, Pong–but very apt.
Kepha says
@rubiconquest–Some of what you say is spot on, some is not. I heartily agree that much also depends on the Scriptures on reads.
Frankly, I have a hard time with “interfaith” matters. As someone who once served as a Christian elder and in church-related work, the truth of Christian doctrine is an important thing for me. The finality of the Gospel message contains and implies a number of truth claims and boundaries. I have no qualms about “inter-racial” marriages. Moses was apparently in one (Num. 12); Timothy, Paul’s assistant, was the product of a cross-cultural one. (Ac. 16:3). I made a cross-cultural, and even “miscengenated” marriage of three decades’ standing and counting myself. But I have problems with interfaith marriages. Paul tells us that if Christians marry, it must be in the Lord (i.e., with another believer). Sure, we’re told to love our neighbors even if they’re “them” (the parable of the Good Samaritan in Luke comes to mind). But we also have the responsibility to build and nurture our own community–partly for the sake that it’s message is clear, even for outsiders whom the Holy Spirit might call to join us. Further, I’m of the mind that if the Holy Spirit himself moved prophets and apostles to write what they did, it’s incumbent on me to let the Scriptures challenge me rather than the other way around.
I’ll also notice an interesting point about the incident described in the article: there’s a “Rabbi” Shira Stern, who is female. I don’t know how it’s worked for Jews, but for Christians, the ordination of women has been a disaster. Denominations that ordain women tend to be either contracting or full of strange doctrinal deviations. This may be because that while you get a bunch of boys on a playground arguing about rules of the game, the girls will try to include everyone (even if it’s a strange, talking serpent saying, “Did God really say…”). Some of my older Ashkenazic Jewish neighbors used to say “Besser a bort ohn a rav vi a rav ohn a bort” (Better a beard without a rabbi than a rabbi without a beard) when speaking of a shrewish wife;someone else must explain if it applies to cultic matters as well as domestic.
Look at all of the Christian “Mainline” denominations and their response to the furor islamicus. None is willing to take a long, hard look at what Islamic texts teach. Indeed, they deliberately avoid the issue. I suspect that the desire to be “inclusive”, for better or worse, is driving it. Then again, people in these same denominations also seem to have little use for biblical doctrine or ethics, focusing instead on literary and historical criticism (while apologizing for biblical patriarchy) in their study of their own text.
Mirren10 says
You know, Kepha, this animus of yours against female clergy doesn’t hold water logically.
Who is the head of the RC Church ? A man.
Who is the head of the Church of England ? A man.
How many *female bishops* are there ?
These *men* are in *charge* , they set Church *policy*
A few ditzy women priests have had no influence on that.
Kepha says
Who is the head of the Church universal–a man, named Jesus the Messiah.
And, I freely admit that I’m letting myself become more empirical than logical (the two are philosophically distinct).
Kepha says
Who is the head of the Church universal–a man, named Jesus the Messiah.
And, I freely admit that I’m letting myself become more empirical than logical (the two are philosophically distinct).
You may like a little article by C.S. Lewis entitled “Bulverism” in his collection _God in the Dock_.
Mirren10 says
Apologies for taking so long to get back tou, Kepha. If you read this;
I have read “God in the Dock”, including the little essay entitled “Bulverism”. And I agree with every word.
However, that is not what *I* am doing. You stated that denominations that ordain women priests ” tend to either contracting or full of strange doctrinal deviations”.
I was merely pointing out ( I perhaps wasn’t clear), that it is the *men* in charge of Churches that set *policy*, not female clergy, however foolish some of them may be.
By the way, I loathe Bulverism, I’ m sorry you think I’ve been guilty of it. It certainly wasn’t my intention ! 🙂
Andra says
Forget about religius discussion with Muslims. It only ends up in surrendering to Islam. Events linke the one in the artivle will never take place in a mosque, because the mosque would be dishonored when other religions would dare to pray there.
Furthermore the Muslims belive that every religious place where the koran has been cited and Muslim prayers have been prayed is changed into a mosque. So this synagogue now is a mosque.
With all the religious dialogue in Europe you won´t find any one that ended up in freindship or respect to each other from both sides. it always ends up in Muslim praying in churches, synagogues and temples.
Last Christmas e.g. German Muslims have demanded that Muslims songs (which are few and full of hate against other religions) have to be sung at Christmas Eve´s mass. But it was not in discussin that Christian songs would be sung in exchange in mosques, because this would dishonor Allah.
As Ghandi said: You can find compromise and peace with all religions but one: Islam.
Karl says
Ghandi never said this.
Western Canadian says
He should have.
Keys says
When Saudi Arabia allows Churches and Synagogues to be built there (with no strings attached like high taxes) even in Mecca and Medina, then maybe there could be dialogue. Think that will ever happen in our lifetimes?
mgoldberg says
It would happen over our dead bodies
gravenimage says
Unfortunately, Gandhi was a thoroughgoing dhimmi in many ways.
Jura says
naive. Difference between Spanish, Italians, balkan nations and Berbers, Copts, Arameans, etc. is that they were able to violently stand against islam. Islam does not understand anything else.
blitz2b says
The only problem with interfaith prayer gatherings is the venue. Do you ever see an interfaith prayer service held at the a mosque?
Why does it always have to be either a church or a synagogue that these services are held?
When Muslims lay out their prayer mats in any other place of worship it is as though they are declaring that place to have been transformed into a mosque.
Our naive religious leaders bend backwards and accommodate Muslims in every which way possible in order to appease them, not having studied Islam and it’s deceptive agenda full well.
Allah emphatically states in the Koran that indeed he is the best of deceivers, yet our religious elite will not take the open tjreats of this religion of conquest and terror, seriously.
gravenimage says
blitz2b wrote:
The only problem with interfaith prayer gatherings is the venue. Do you ever see an interfaith prayer service held at the a mosque?
Why does it always have to be either a church or a synagogue that these services are held?
……………………….
Important point.
Firstly, “filthy Infidels” are not allowed to pray at Mosques. Secondly, any place where Muslim prayers are held is henceforth deemed to *be a Mosque*. Muslims may not cash in on that now in the West because it would be impolitic–but it is definitely could be on the table in the near future.
Keys says
Beware of deceit, Rubiconquest.
If you have time and have not done so watch “The Mosque in Morgantown”, a PBS documentary that had “dialogue” (internal and external) as an ideal objective for all of us in the USA. Had the opposite effect on me.
There are a few “comments” on the film on it’s on-line site. Here is one from a Muslim and one from a former Muslim:
“QP says:
June 16, 2009 at 12:18 am
There is a very fine line between conservatism and extremism. Asra Nomani makes a justifiable point because these conservative mosques do teach hate. I am a Muslim and have heard these teachings from the minbar and like Asra, I see those trying to cover their hypocrisy. Those who greet strangers with open arms but privately teach Muslims to not associate with Christians and Jews.
Asra Nomani has the courage to expose that an intolant form of Islam is being forwarded in these Mosques under the influence of the ISNA Wahhabi network.”
**************
Rubicon, what is the purpose of the dialogue? Oh, aren’t they wonderful people?
But the wonderful people do not have the authority to change Islam. In reply to Louisa’s comment (below) a “troll” replied that she did not really understand the Koran because she could not read it in Arabic. Classic obfuscation and lies! There is no persuasion in Islam, no dialogue – only sbmission to Allah’s word, and emulation of Mohammad’s life.
“Louisa Calyone says:
June 11, 2009 at 7:14 pm
If Islam, being the direct word of god, has not been clearly defined after 1400 years, then it’s not about to happen in this century.
Indeed, Muhammad prophesized that Islam would evolve into 72 sects, but only one would go to Paradise. In trying to define what Islam is, I have concluded that there are probably as many sects as there are Muslims! It would be virtually impossible to come up with a single description..
Since Islam itself makes the claim that the Qur’an is the direct word of god, that the Sira is Muhammad’s biography and the Hadith is a collection of Muhammad’s traditions, then what more could there be? We have the entire concept of Islam in these three books and if you can’t find your answer there, then there is none.
I have read several translations of the trilogy and while they do differ, the difference is in semantics that are immaterial. So the only possible way to define Islam is to take it in its literal sense since it is the direct word of god! Who among us would have the audacity of changing even a single word that was god’s word!
Muhammad himself declared that he was the “perfect” man and that he was to be emulated down to the minutest detail, who would dare to do otherwise?
As a non-believer I have no choice but to accept that what is in the Qur’an and Hadiths is not negotiable. Since it is the “DIRECT OF GOD”, who am I to assume otherwise. I could, of course, accept Ahmad’s version of Islam. Or Omar’s, or Mohammed’s. But I think I will stay with the original records that have survived 1400 years. That’s good enough for me. It says in the Qur’an that Jews and Christians are apes and pigs and the filthiest of all creatures. That you may kill me if you ask me to convert to Islam and I refuse. And Muhammad did direct you to convert the world to Islam by any means necessary.
But wait! Are you telling me that these things are not in the Qur’an? That they were misinterpreted? Sorry, that one won’t work. I’m sticking with the Qur’an. Maybe you should read it. It’s quite interesting and has everything from incest to murder!
Oh and one other thing. I accepted Islam as a religion and I believed it to be a religion until I read that Muhammad told his followers that if they died in jihad, they would enter Paradise where they would lie on silk couches, have flowing water and wine at their disposal, luscious fruits and 72 eternal virgins; unless they required the services of a young boy. They have them in Paradise too.
Well, you get the point. When I read that, I actually laughed out loud. That is the most infantile tale that even my 7 year old would laugh. So I’m not buying it as a religion. I like to think that I am smarter than that!”
This is, in essence, what Prof. Bill Warner says on his site, politicalislam. Don’t ask a muslim what his faith teaches, go to the Koran and the life of Mohammed in the Sunna.
rena says
Do you adher to the teachings of any religion?
mortimer says
Robert Spencer has written a superb sampling of only a small number of the insults to Jews that are in the holiest book of Islam. Jews and those who are interested should save this article in their archives and pass it on.
American Jewry is as a generality unacquainted with Islam’s source texts, and yet, consider themselves in some magical way to be experts on Islam…they see naivety as compassion. Naivety is gullibility. American Jewry as a generality is unaware with Islam’s normative culture of prevarication. Islam forces all Muslims to become practiced liars.
The Jews at this synagogue do not understand that every time Muslims pray, they curse the Jews. These prayers should not be used in Jewish sanctuary. Moreover, many Muslims see the act of holding a prayer service in church or synagogue as way of turning it into a mosque.
The congregation of Temple Rodeph Torah in Marlboro are high-minded and well-meaning, but they are as gullible as unschooled little children. They need to learn what Muslims REALLY thing about Jews. Muslims cannot change those views without effectively rebelling against Islam and becoming secret apostates…lying to other Muslims about their true beliefs.
Ex-muslim says
Almost ALL islamic ‘prayers’ known as “du’as” and almost all the quran readings are curses and insults against Jews, Christians and ‘polytheists’.
mortimer says
Ex-muslim wrote: “Almost ALL islamic ‘prayers’ … curses and insults against Jews”
Yes. Imagine…after receiving kindness, generosity and human affection, the Muslims put their heads on the carpet and asked Allah to hurt the Jews by the hands of the Muslims.
It would have gone right over the heads because it was in Arabic and the mullahs must have smiled to themselves and felt very smug at their betrayal.
Islam turns everyone into a deceiver.
Rev g says
The Muslims are just softening the resistance, and getting a look at the spoils of war.
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
Yes that’s true Rev. But I’ve had it with stupid Jews. AND stupid: Catholics, Christians, Protestants, etc.
In law we have the doctrine of ‘assumption of risk’. That means that, if you engage in dangerous activity, YOU bear the brunt because you’re supposed to behave ‘reasonably’. In this instance, these Jews have every reason to know that we have lots and lots of Jew-hating, violent, psycho muslims around who engage in taqqiya, act nice, but actually plan to destroy you.
At this point, inviting ANY muslims into your synagogue, is unreasonable. Meaning: You only do it if you’re a raving tearing lunatic.
So don’t complain later, Jews, when these selfsame muslims come back and kill you.
Next case-
gravenimage says
All true, Mortimer and ex-Muslim.
Paleologos says
So … is this another muslim propaganda campaign designed to get Jews to look the other way, while the muslims do some more islamic colonizing?
Is the world caliphate plan partially based on the idea that all Jews are as gullible as Mike Bloomberg?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQsHc1EHgQY
Why don’t these muslims ask these Jews how loved they would be in Iran?
Time to do some reality testing. 🙂
R/
Paleologos
wally says
Satan comes to kill,destroy and terrorize .that is the message of Islam here in the US……Just remember the muslim attack on sep-11-2001.
Nachum says
In the Amidah, Jews say this prayer 3 times a day…
“Let there be no hope for informers, and may all the heretics and all the wicked instantly perish; may all the enemies of Your people be speedily extirpated; and may You swiftly uproot, break, crush and subdue the reign of wickedness speedily in our days. Blessed are You L-rd, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.”
Jack Diamond says
“In the Koran we have 99 names for God, all describing his different attributes” including:
“the Humiliator”, “the Tormentor”, “the Torturer”, and “the best of Planners and Plotters”
So from baking bread for dinner, the Muslimas felt the need to recite Islamic prayers IN THE TEMPLE.
Prayers that are anything but of “tolerance and peace.” Why was that, Rabbi Weber? Because it is an act of Islamic supremacism.
Rabbi Weber might want to consider the verdict from Islam Q&A on such interfaith dialogue and remember Islam means submission, which is why “interfaith gatherings” can ONLY EVER be a one-way street (to Mecca):
“The person who thinks of bringing Islam, Judaism and Christianity together, or bringing them closer to one another, is like one who strives to bring together the opposites of truth and falsehood, kufr (disbelief) and eemaan (faith).
“Moreover, the religion of the Jews and Christians has been abrogated by Allaah when He sent the Messenger Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) and Allaah obliged all the people of the earth, Jews Christians and others, to follow him.
“It is clear that the basic foundation of the laws and religions that Allaah has prescribed for His slaves is one and there is no need to bring them close to one another. It is obvious that the Jews and Christians have distorted and twisted that which was revealed to them from their Lord, to the point that their religions have become falsehood, kufr and misguidance.
“If they persist in following their religion, which has been abrogated, then they are adhering to falsehood, not to true religion. So it is not permissible for the Muslims to get close to them, because by getting close to them they are approving of their falsehood on the one hand, and misleading the ignorant, on the other. What Muslims should do is expose their falsehood just as Allaah has exposed them in the Qur’aan.
“Someone might say: can there not be a truce among them, or a peace treaty, so as to avoid bloodshed and the tragedies of war, and so that people may go about their business and earn a living?
this applies only when it is not possible to enforce the jizyah system, because Allaah says in Soorat al-Tawbah (interpretation of the meaning):
“Fight against those who (1) believe not in Allaah, (2) nor in the Last Day, (3) nor forbid that which has been forbidden by Allaah and His Messenger (Muhammad), (4) and those who acknowledge not the religion of truth (i.e. Islam) among the people of the Scripture (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizyah with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued”
[al-Tawbah 9:29]
“The Muslims must retain their pride and their adherence to the Book of their Lord and the Sunnah of their Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him); they must continue to hate their enemies of Allaah and not befriend them, following the guidance of the Qur’aan and of the Messenger (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning):
“But if they incline to peace, you also incline to it, and (put your) trust in Allaah. Verily, He is the All-Hearer, the All-Knower” [al-Anfaal 8:61]
“So do not become weak (against your enemy), nor be sad, and you will be superior (in victory) if you are indeed (true) believers.
[Aal ‘Imraan 3:139]
“So be not weak and ask not for peace (from the enemies of Islam) while you are having the upper hand. Allaah is with you, and He will never decrease the reward of your good deeds’
[Muhammad 47:35]
https://islamqa.info/en/10232
Then there is this guiding principle- Fataawa al-Lajnah al-Daa’imah (2/115):
“If your(sic) going to the church is just to show tolerance and lenience, then it is not permissible, but if it is done to call them to Islam and create opportunities for you to do so, and you will not be taking part in their worship and you are not afraid that you may be influenced by their beliefs or customs, then it is permissible.”
Brad says
Ecumenicalism does not work to preserve a faith system. It only serves to deceive and destroy it’s adherents. Islamic deceivers are trying to destroy this synagogue. Wake up rabbis! Don’t let these serpents achieve their wicked goals.
Jay Boo says
Let’s hope that Kosher food is also considered halal by Muslims or else Muslims will feel a need to commence with their Halal Histrionics and temper tantrums.
Jack Diamond says
sura 5:5 makes lawful the food of the people of the Scripture. The Halal screaming is just a wedge for sharia to enter in (and for Muslim commerce).
Western Canadian says
I have recently been informed that the ‘newspaper’ produced for muslims in Canada, are claiming that KFC actually sells human flesh, falsely labeling it as chicken….. Besides being absurd, it is also vicious and hate filled…. I suspect that there will soon be an effort to force KFC in Canada, to apply for (and pay dearly for) halal certification….. Another revenue stream for the religion of hate….
gravenimage says
What a sickening lie. You are likely right as to Muslim motivation here, Western Canadian–besides the usual conspiracy theories and whining fake victimhood.
Here’s a bit of good news:
“Pizza Hut, KFC and McDonalds REJECT Hong Kong Muslim Leader’s Request to Provide Halal Meat”
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/12/pizza-hut-kfc-and-mcdonalds-reject-hong-kong-muslim-leaders-request-to-provide-halal-meat/
miriamrove says
PC correct liberal Jews are the worst. I live in NJ and I surrounded by them. M
Jay Boo says
If liberals, whether Jewish or otherwise, really wanted to help Muslims they would encourage Muslims to leave the ‘death loving cult of Islam rather than bake Frienemy’ cakes together.
Angemon says
Were the Christians, Hindus, Atheists, Sikhs, Buddhists, Neo-Pagans, Satanists, Agnostics, etc., not invited?
Mirren10 says
Exactly, Angemon.
**Why** do none of these oh, so tolerant Jews, Christians et al, *ever* say, “OK, Dwayne, (oops, I mean Haroon), when are you going to invite us over to the mosque to celebrate Shabbat, or the Eucharist ? And answer came there none …
mortimer says
Congregation Temple Rodeph Torah are touchingly naïve…about as touchingly naïve as the German Jews who thought that Hitler thing was nothing to worry about. The German Jews failed to read Hitler’s ‘beer hall’ speeches or read his Mein Kampf, and if they did, few if any took them seriously!
American Jewry needs to PAY ATTENTION to the words of Maimonides, one of the greatest of Jewish philosophers:
“… on account of our sins, God has cast us into the midst of this people, the nation of Ishmael [that is, Muslims], who PERSECUTE US SEVERELY, and who devise ways to HARM us and to DEBASE us…. No nation HAS EVER DONE MORE HARM TO ISRAEL. None has matched it in debasing and humiliating us. None has been able to reduce us as they have…. We have borne their imposed degradation, their lies, their ABSURDITIES, which are beyond human power to bear…. We have done as our sages of blessed memory have instructed us, bearing the lies and absurdities of Ishmael…. In spite of all this, we are not spared from the FEROCITY of their WICKEDNESS and their OUTBURSTS at any time. On the contrary, the more we suffer and choose to conciliate them, the more they choose to act BELLIGERENTLY toward us…”
Dear American Jewry…WAKE UP! Haman is here!
Wellington says
That quote from Maimonides, mortimer, which I came across years ago, should be regularly mentioned in order to put the lie to that great lie that medieval Islam was tolerant. No it was not.
This great lie came about because of 1) Muslim apologists for Islam; and 2) not a few dhimmi apologists for Islam, thus tending to confirm Napoleon’s cynical view of history, to wit, that it is a pack of lies agreed upon. I’m not as cynical as the Emperor but sometimes I am sorely tempted to be, for instance whenever someone asserts that the medieval Islamic world was a tolerant world. Nothing could be further from the truth.
mortimer says
Agree. Let’s repeat the kicker:
” No nation HAS EVER DONE MORE HARM TO ISRAEL”
Keys says
The kicker that keeps on kicking affirmed again today.
Iran says they will wipe Israel off the map, and wrote as such on their recently tested long range missiles.
They are consistent from century to century.
silvergreycat says
I’m reminded of these words…2 Kings, Chapter 20, verses 12-19…*At that time Marduk-Baladan son of Baladan king of Babylon sent Hezekiah letters and a gift, because he had heard of Hezekiah’s illness. Hezekiah received the envoys and showed them all that was in his storehouses—the silver, the gold, the spices and the fine olive oil—his armory and everything found among his treasures. There was nothing in his palace or in all his kingdom that Hezekiah did not show them.
Then Isaiah the prophet went to King Hezekiah and asked, “What did those men say, and where did they come from?”
“From a distant land,” Hezekiah replied. “They came from Babylon.”
The prophet asked, “What did they see in your palace?”
“They saw everything in my palace,” Hezekiah said. “There is nothing among my treasures that I did not show them.”
Then Isaiah said to Hezekiah, “Hear the word of the Lord: The time will surely come when everything in your palace, and all that your predecessors have stored up until this day, will be carried off to Babylon. Nothing will be left, says the Lord. And some of your descendants, your own flesh and blood who will be born to you, will be taken away, and they will become eunuchs in the palace of the king of Babylon.”
“The word of the Lord you have spoken is good,” Hezekiah replied.*
source… https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=2%20Kings%2020
Richard Paulsen says
They seem to have a good time. Good. However considering the number of Jews and Christians there are left in countries conquered by islamic warriors and only some 0-4-10% I urge wariness.
ermom says
I remember not too long ago, when ISIS was taking cities in Iraq, the interview of a stunned Iraqi Christian, who was asked why the people didn’t rise up and defend their city from ISIS. He said ‘How? When the Americans left, our new gov’t made us turn in our guns, Further in the interview, he indicated he was shocked and dismayed, because their GOOD MUSLIM NEIGHBORS, who had lived next door for decades, being good neighbors, visiting back and forth, helping each other, children growing up together, BUT when ISIS showed up, his ‘good neighbors’ turned them in to ISIS as Christians.’
I will never forget this man’s sad, shocked face, as he explained the treachery, and then the horrors, he and his family had endured. This interview, as well as my studies of Islam since the Boston Bombings, cemented my belief that ISLAMOFASCISM or Islamic Supremacy is the end goal of Islam. Period. It’s in the Qur’an, hadiths and suras.
Why will so many NOT BELIEVE THAT THEY MEAN IT? Imam Choudary said on Hannity, “There will be peace when you submit/” He wasn’t using TAQIYYA. He told the truth of Islam.
Kenneth says
Apparently these Jews don’t know the Koran!
Lonidas says
HOW TO DEFEAT BARBARIC ISLAM:
1)Demand the LIBERATION OF MUSLIM WOMEN from muslim male bondage imposed by the Koran ,(k 4:34,K2:223),from forced child marriages,wife beating (k4:34)and from the Burka( K 24:31,K33:59-mobile cloth prisons that banish females from society)!Ban clitorectomies, nose mutilations, death by stoning and apply the death penalty for “honor killing”of women(Bukhari2,23,413) !Grant to muslim women divorce and children custody and support, when they are abused by their muslim husbands !Demand Respect,Equality ,Education , Integration and Human Rights to ALL WOMEN IN in ALL Muslim lands ,which they deserve ,as the women gave birth and nursed all the Humans2)PROTECT THE APOSTATES from Islam,the “BLASPHEMERS” of Islam, HYPOCRITES and ADULTERERS FROM DEATH ,commanded by the Koran (K 4:83 ,Bukhari 9.84.57,58-52:260) and punish all muslim Countries that implement these barbaric islamic laws!3)DISCREDIT THE KORAN,as a distorted copy of the Old Testament(mainly Deuteronomy,book of Enoch-on description of Hell-,Βοok of Thomas , Talmud etc)written in Arabic not by Allah before Eternity (K 85:22k 10:37),as the muslims are taught to believe,but by Muhammad to suit his desires( per wife Aisha) ,then after his death ,written down by his scribe Zaid and rearranged arbitrarily in chapters from longer to shorter ones on order by the first Caliph(successor)!The Koran is full of repetitions,ambiguities,lies,contradictions,but the more recent ,longer ~70%violent Medina part, abrogates the earlier, shorter ~30% merciful Mecca part(K 2:106, Buhari)! It commands violence(K 48:29)and it is totally void of Morality and Love !It accuses Jews and Christians of heresy, of “having strayed from the right path” (K2:79,K3:64-82K90:6,K3:32)deserving death(k2:191,K8:7,k9:5,9:29,9:123)!. It commands the muslims to ritualistically pray five times daily cursing the Infidels (Google: translation of Muslim daily prayer)and never to leave islam by killing the Apostates and those who criticize the Koran or Muhammad (k5:33-34)and never to be friends with Jews(k5:60)Christians,Infidels (k 2:109,3:28,5:51,5:57)for they may tempt them to leave Islam and to terrorize (K8:12)and kill the Infidels(k9:5) ,if they refuse to convert to islam or pay the humiliating tax = jizya(K 9:29) as dhimmies(semi slaves)!The Koran commands ,that wives must be beaten for disobedience (k 4:34)and that ALL WOMEN are inferior to males (k 4:34,2:223)and are destined to go to Hell(unless their husbands say in the Last Day that they are.. pleased with them!).Women must never tempt men by showing their curves or skin,so the women of the orthodox (radical)muslims are forced to hide and wear the unhealthy full body loose clothes like mobile prisons ,the Burkas and Nikabs (K 4:34),when outside their house ,even in the stifling summer heat!The Medina Koran ,which imposes polygyny, misogyny and preaches hate against Jews,Christians,infidels and intolerance and terror against all other Religions ,is incompatible with our Freedoms,Human Rights, GenderEquality,Democracy and Constitution and must be banned by the US Supreme Court and the UN worldwide from the Mosques ,as a HATE BOOK!4)DENOUNCE MUHAMMAD ,as according to contemporary witnesses in the “Hadith”and ” Sira”,he was a mass murderer,torturer,pedophile ( wife Aisha was 9 years old),rapist,liar, plunderer ,slave trader and a terrorist (k4:56). He imposed Islam by the sword ,getting 1/5 of the booty from all raids for himself and added several verses in the Koran to suit his sexual desires (per wife Aisha). He decapitated the captive ~800 men of the jewish Qurayza tribe ,raped the same night Safiya the wife of the slain jewish chief,enslaved the surviving women and children and exiled the other two jewish tribes and the Christians from Arabia confiscating their property,because they refused to convert to Islam. He ordered jihad for World Conquest, that still continues !Therefore ,Muhammad ,”The Perfect Man of Islam”(K 33:21,68:4)was a brutal , bloodthirsty and savage warlord, who deserves no reverence ,but our stern condemnation and revulsion for his crimes and we should be shaming daily ALL muslims ,who have him as an example!
5-DENOUNCE ORTHODOX ISLAM as a violent ,totalitarian ,misogynistic , genocidal,barbaric ,political ideology ( ISLAMOFASCISM)of Arab male supremacism (>80%), disguised as a religion(<20%),incompatible with our Freedoms, Gender Equality ,Human Rights and Democracy, that fights by jihad and soft jihad to subjugate the entire world !
6-DEPORT ORTHODOX MUSLIMS AND STOP MUSLIM IMMIGRATION TO NON MUSLIM COUNTRIES!Send the muslim refugees to S. Arabia ,which is a vast rich country ,where they can stay ,until they can return to their countries!
When political correctness is abandoned and these facts are discussed openly daily and become widely known ,millions of muslims especially WOMEN ,with our support ,will ABANDON ISLAM to join Humanity and the miserable ,barbaric empire of Islam with its Jihad and suicide bombers will implode and collapse the way the oppressive Soviet Union did in 1989!
Leonidas says
Well, this is what ALL of us Kafirs can do.
HOW TO DEFEAT BARBARIC ISLAM:
1)Demand the LIBERATION OF MUSLIM WOMEN from muslim male bondage imposed by the Koran ,(k 4:34,K2:223),from forced child marriages,wife beating (k4:34)and from the Burka( K 24:31,K33:59-mobile cloth prisons that banish females from society)!Ban clitorectomies, nose mutilations, death by stoning and apply the death penalty for “honor killing”of women(Bukhari2,23,413) !Grant to muslim women divorce and children custody and support, when they are abused by their muslim husbands !Demand Respect,Equality ,Education , Integration and Human Rights to ALL WOMEN IN in ALL Muslim lands ,which they deserve ,as the women gave birth and nursed all the Humans2)PROTECT THE APOSTATES from Islam,the “BLASPHEMERS” of Islam, HYPOCRITES and ADULTERERS FROM DEATH ,commanded by the Koran (K 4:83 ,Bukhari 9.84.57,58-52:260) and punish all muslim Countries that implement these barbaric islamic laws!3)DISCREDIT THE KORAN,as a distorted copy of the Old Testament(mainly Deuteronomy,book of Enoch-on description of Hell-,Βοok of Thomas , Talmud etc)written in Arabic not by Allah before Eternity (K 85:22k 10:37),as the muslims are taught to believe,but by Muhammad to suit his desires( per wife Aisha) ,then after his death ,written down by his scribe Zaid and rearranged arbitrarily in chapters from longer to shorter ones on order by the first Caliph(successor)!The Koran is full of repetitions,ambiguities,lies,contradictions,but the more recent ,longer ~70%violent Medina part, abrogates the earlier, shorter ~30% merciful Mecca part(K 2:106, Buhari)! It commands violence(K 48:29)and it is totally void of Morality and Love !It accuses Jews and Christians of heresy, of “having strayed from the right path” (K2:79,K3:64-82K90:6,K3:32)deserving death(k2:191,K8:7,k9:5,9:29,9:123)!. It commands the muslims to ritualistically pray five times daily cursing the Infidels (Google: translation of Muslim daily prayer)and never to leave islam by killing the Apostates and those who criticize the Koran or Muhammad (k5:33-34)and never to be friends with Jews(k5:60)Christians,Infidels (k 2:109,3:28,5:51,5:57)for they may tempt them to leave Islam and to terrorize (K8:12)and kill the Infidels(k9:5) ,if they refuse to convert to islam or pay the humiliating tax = jizya(K 9:29) as dhimmies(semi slaves)!The Koran commands ,that wives must be beaten for disobedience (k 4:34)and that ALL WOMEN are inferior to males (k 4:34,2:223)and are destined to go to Hell(unless their husbands say in the Last Day that they are.. pleased with them!).Women must never tempt men by showing their curves or skin,so the women of the orthodox (radical)muslims are forced to hide and wear the unhealthy full body loose clothes like mobile prisons ,the Burkas and Nikabs (K 4:34),when outside their house ,even in the stifling summer heat!The Medina Koran ,which imposes polygyny, misogyny and preaches hate against Jews,Christians,infidels and intolerance and terror against all other Religions ,is incompatible with our Freedoms,Human Rights, GenderEquality,Democracy and Constitution and must be banned by the US Supreme Court and the UN worldwide from the Mosques ,as a HATE BOOK!4)DENOUNCE MUHAMMAD ,as according to contemporary witnesses in the “Hadith”and ” Sira”,he was a mass murderer,torturer,pedophile ( wife Aisha was 9 years old),rapist,liar, plunderer ,slave trader and a terrorist (k4:56). He imposed Islam by the sword ,getting 1/5 of the booty from all raids for himself and added several verses in the Koran to suit his sexual desires (per wife Aisha). He decapitated the captive ~800 men of the jewish Qurayza tribe ,raped the same night Safiya the wife of the slain jewish chief,enslaved the surviving women and children and exiled the other two jewish tribes and the Christians from Arabia confiscating their property,because they refused to convert to Islam. He ordered jihad for World Conquest, that still continues !Therefore ,Muhammad ,”The Perfect Man of Islam”(K 33:21,68:4)was a brutal , bloodthirsty and savage warlord, who deserves no reverence ,but our stern condemnation and revulsion for his crimes and we should be shaming daily ALL muslims ,who have him as an example!
5-DENOUNCE ORTHODOX ISLAM as a violent ,totalitarian ,misogynistic , genocidal,barbaric ,political ideology ( ISLAMOFASCISM)of Arab male supremacism (>80%), disguised as a religion(<20%),incompatible with our Freedoms, Gender Equality ,Human Rights and Democracy, that fights by jihad and soft jihad to subjugate the entire world !
6-DEPORT ORTHODOX MUSLIMS AND STOP MUSLIM IMMIGRATION TO NON MUSLIM COUNTRIES!Send the muslim refugees to S. Arabia ,which is a vast rich country ,where they can stay ,until they can return to their countries!
When political correctness is abandoned and these facts are discussed openly daily and become widely known ,millions of muslims especially WOMEN ,with our support ,will ABANDON ISLAM to join Humanity and the miserable ,barbaric empire of Islam with its Jihad and suicide bombers will implode and collapse the way the oppressive Soviet Union did in 1989!
Haroldpom says
At a time when Jews, Christians and other religious minorities are persecuted, raped, tortured, terrorized and killed throughout the Muslim world we Jews are intent on bringing more Muslims to North America because Muslims in North America are not like Muslims in Muslim countries. Try telling that to Jewish students at American and other universities throughout the West where Israel Apartheid Week is about to begin their annual ritual of harassment of Jewish students by anti-Israel Muslim student organizations who we are told have nothing to do with Islam.
TheDane says
Typical case of Stockholm Syndrome…. shame on the Jews for inviting followers of Satan!
gravenimage says
New Jersey: Muslims, Jews break bread together at synagogue, Muslims pray in Jewish sanctuary
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And now this Synagogue is regarded by Muslims as a Mosque. Foolish “interfaith” Jewish people are just as clueless about Islam as their dhimmi Christian brethren.