Obama’s timing is grotesque. After the Brussels jihad massacre, he should be talking about how he is ramping up our resistance to jihad terror, not about how we have to stop picking on the poor Muslims in America, whom no one is picking on in the first place.
“We have to reject any attempt to stigmatize Muslim-Americans,” i.e., we are not going to speak honestly about the motivating ideology of jihad terror, no matter how high the bodies pile up.
“…and their enormous contributions to our country and our way of life.” Yes, look at all the enormous contributions Muslims have made to our country and our way of life. Muslims remodeled the New York skyline. Muslims brought about the transformation of government buildings in Washington, D.C. and elsewhere into veritable fortresses, each with massive stone blocks outside to prevent jihadis from using truck bombs. Muslims provided the impetus for huge advances — and huge expenses — in the development of technology used to screen passengers in airports. Muslims are responsible for air travel being transformed from a glamorous, adventurous activity to a cramped, hectoring, inhospitable affair, with glum, shoeless hordes holding up their beltless trousers while being herded through intrusive and inefficient checkpoints. We also owe Muslims for insisting upon the political correctness that requires everyone to be humiliated equally. Passengers are poked, prodded, threatened, and treated as likely criminals while America is hamstrung from efficiently focusing on the true source of the problem.
We also must credit Muslims with increases in the U.S. government. It is now bigger, wealthier (on your tax money), and watching you more closely than it was on September 10, 2001. Muslims can take a bow for the creation of at least two government agencies — the TSA and the Department of Homeland Security — plus a massive expansion in the budgets of all manner of intelligence and law enforcement entities. Those bloated budgets are one manifestation of what is actually the greatest contribution that Muslims have made to our nation: the slow destruction of the American economy. Osama bin Laden explained that he mounted the 9/11 jihad terror attacks in order to weaken the American economy; in October 2004 he rejoiced at how he had induced the Americans to spend, spend, spend to try to stymie him: “Al-Qaeda spent $500,000 on the event, while America, in the incident and its aftermath, lost — according to the lowest estimate — more than $500 billion, meaning that every dollar of al-Qaeda defeated a million dollars.”
And that was in 2004. How many more billions have been spent since then, even aside from the billions wasted on the nation-building misadventures in Iraq and Afghanistan? If Osama were alive today, he could look with satisfaction on an America that is poorer, uglier, meaner, more dangerous, less productive, and less efficient than it was on September 10, 2001.
Such an enormous contribution Muslims have made to our country!
“Obama: Stigmatizing Muslims ‘plays into hands’ of jihadists,” AFP, March 26, 2016:
Washington (AFP) – President Barack Obama has urged Americans not to stigmatize Muslims following this week’s deadly attacks in Brussels, saying that doing so is “counterproductive” in the fight against radical Islam.
In his weekly media address, Obama said Muslim-Americans are “our most important partners in the nation’s fight against those who would wage violent jihad.
“That’s why we have to reject any attempt to stigmatize Muslim-Americans, and their enormous contributions to our country and our way of life,” Obama said.
“Such attempts are contrary to our character, to our values, and to our history as a nation built around the idea of religious freedom. It’s also counterproductive,” he said.
“It plays right into the hands of terrorists who want to turn us against one another — who need a reason to recruit more people to their hateful cause.”
Obama made his remarks as the global community continues to reel from Tuesday’s attacks in Belgium, claimed by the Islamic State group, which killed 31 dead, including two Americans, and wounded 300….

Danusha Goska says
Robert Spencer thank you for all you do and Happy Easter.
Everything you do is important but what you wrote above about Islam’s contributions to America, beginning with its redesign of the Manhattan skyline, is among your best work. Everyone reading here should keep it and share it widely.
Adrian says
Amen to that.
Joyous Easter, Robert, and may you receive all the strength and health to continue your critically needed hard work!
Stephen Schutte says
Yes, yes, a blessed Easter to you, your family, and your team, Robert. And extra prayers for your continued good health and safety.
Thank you for all you do.
Stephen S.
Cincinnati.
Lia says
May you eventually muzzle Mr Obama, even if only he becomes so ashamed of himself that he keeps quiet …
David says
That will NEVER happen. He is so eat up with being stupid that he can’t comprehend he is wrong.
Lambo says
What contributions is this nut job referring to?
JawsV says
He never does provide any examples.
Rob Porter says
JawsV, the man incessantly lies and talks utter drivel in the hope that everyone in the audience is either naive. ignorant or stupid. Mind you, when do we hear any criticism or condemnation of his lies from the ‘intellectual elite’? I wrote about this to David Gergen, Harvard prof and CNN guest, but he did not respond. He like many other ‘elite’ is part of the cowardly group Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn described in his wonderful 1978 Harvard commencement address. For all to see Barack Obama truly is a pathological liar, a pathetic international figure and yet the cowardly, politically correct media treat him with a form of reverence. It really is a disgusting sight watching this farce, i.e. ; ludicrously improbable situations’.
muskat antonopolis says
the pres was elected the first time on blind emotions, the second time on voter apathy…he is not and never has been in my opinion, qualified
to “run” our govt. …when he addresses the WTP and the world, he
speaks at the Chicago street level assuming that the speech is a
brilliant example of new thinking, wisdom of some sort…incredible
just absolutely incredible in that He thinks WTP believe and /or
are impressed with him….PTBarnum was correct..”there is a sucker born every minute”….way past time (by about 7 years ) for him to go..
and Cuba might be a good place for him…..
Jay Boo says
@muskat antonopolis
White People are Stupid
The pres was elected the first time because liberal leaning White people are so stupid.
They keep falling for the Good Cop \ Bad Cop routine.
1. The Rev Wright scandal caused them concern but of course Obama and his supporters found a way to encourage Rev. Wright to criticize Obama just in the nick of time so that the Obama machine could make a display of tossing him under the bus.
2. Then Jesse Jackson accidentally on purpose makes an open mike comment about castrating Obama and the gullible white voters eat it up assuming that Obama is LESS extreme than Jesse Jackson.
3. Freddy Mack does a Mack attack and millions of White people in liberal white picket fence neighborhoods coo at Obama with affection thinking he is exactly like us and shares all of our interests.
Good Cop \ Bad Cop — Raz Ma Taz
Atheist kaffur says
@ lambo
you beat me to it.
Which enormous contribution was that I would like to know.
Katherine Jaconello says
The so-called elite will just reply with thought reform techniques – techniques codified by WWII military psychiatrist, Robert Lifton – still alive and teaching in Cape Cod every summer. Thought reform is the codification of Korean torture techniques and borrowed by MK ULTRA operatives. Look him up and find out what those techniques are.
The awful truth says
You overlook his own modest efforts.
Tom says
Wow look at all the hate racism islam bashing it’s not who we are or what we do
Rev g says
Since when is telling the truth about something akin to “bashing”?
Starsky says
Except algebra, which while a word derived from Arabic. Is certainly not one we have Muslims to thank for.
Rev g says
I would ask him to list these enormous contributions.
خَليفة says
San Bernadino
Fort hood
Boston marathon
…
You’re getting the idea….
Mystery says
muslims will always build many enclaves first before conquer the country that they come
Bonnie Prince Charlie says
Teaching him to play golf? Teaching him to tango?
Miao Zedong says
Tango ? He just posed. After all he has learnt some acting.
Carolyne says
I can Tango. Can I be President? Please, please.
Jayke says
How about that line in the Marine Corps (pronounced “CORE” no “corpse”) …
… “to the shores of Tripoli”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tripoli_Monument_%28sculpture%29
Semper Fi!
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
Jayke, thank you and all your brothers-in-arms, because last night I slept peacefully in my own bed. I did not dread the muslim savages I so much fear now-as do millions of Americans. I knew the Corps, and all our Military, have so far kept them at bay..
[How you do it I don’t know, given a CIC who desperately needs hanging as a traitor, but I digress…]
I teach Am. History-the non-revisionist version-to my Catholic HS students here in Ks. When I taught them about the Marine Corps’ birth in 1792, and why they wore leather collars to fight the muslims? My kids were ASTONISHED. ‘Mrs. Brown, you mean the USA was fighting the muslims right at the beginning of our country?’.
They were proud to learn this. And I count it a privilege to teach it. Again: I get to do so, Jayke, only because you all defend our 1st Amendment.
God bless you, God reward you, and a Happy Easter/Purim to you!
Cecilia Ellis says
I thank God for real history teachers like you, Kathy! As a side note, do you also teach them the origins of the term “leathernecks”?
May God continue to bless you, your family and your work. Hope you had a peaceful Easter
Gary says
Oh you know…..
The landing at Plymouth Rock. The signing of the Declaration of Independence. Religious Freedom. Equality for women. Stuff like that…
vicki says
Sadly, slavery!!
JACK says
Love your placing the blame for slavery squarely on America’s shoulders alone.You might read a little history of islam.The muslims invaded and conquered much of Europe about 650AD or so.Muslims took about 1,000,000 mostly female,slaves from Europe who were blonds etc and shipped them to ME harems.Muslims were largely responsible for beginning and maintaining black African slave trade even after America’s founding along with black whole sellers of slaves to whites,Muslims started and continue to this day to maintain slavery.Its my understanding various muslim jihadists hold 20-30 million slaves presently.SO learn your history.
DrMack says
The verses in the Quran that command the extermination of the Jews are too numerous to list here. So one notable contribution of Muslims by omission is that they have failed to implement the design of the Quran for the ultimate extermination of Jews. The result is that Nobel Prizes have been awarded to over 850 individuals, of whom at least 20% were Jews (~170). Overall, Jews have won a total of 41% of all the Nobel Prizes in economics, 28% of medicine, 26% of physics, 19% of chemistry, 13% of literature and 9% of all peace awards. As of 2015, twelve Nobel Prize winners have been Muslims. More than half of the twelve Muslim Nobel laureates were awarded the prize in the 21st century. Seven of the twelve winners have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, including a the award to Yasser Arafat who personally ordered the murder of United States Ambassador Cleo Noel (https://history.state.gov/historicaldocuments/frus1969-76ve06/d217) and to Anwar Sadat who launched an unprovoked surprise attack on Israel in 1973.
Of course we can also credit Islam with the birth of the standing United States Navy (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Barbary_War).
Sandra Lee Smith says
9/11 of course; their only “contribution” to our nation in over 240 years!
sidney penny says
“That’s why we have to reject any attempt to stigmatize Muslim-Americans, and their enormous contributions to our country and our way of life,” Obama said.”
“Enormous contributions”
He did not spell out what it was ???? (unlike the scholarly Robert Spencer)
Rob Porter says
He didn’t spell it out because, as most of know, he could not spell it out. With this basket case it’s all an illusion – and yet millions have fallen for it, even returning him to office, and Mitt Romney couldn’t even defeat this fraud! – yet after failing so dramatically and publicly wishes to imagine he has the judgment and wisdom to determine the Republican candidate!! The comedy continues.
sidney penny says
“Such attempts are contrary to our character, to our values, and to our history as a nation built around the idea of religious freedom. It’s also counterproductive,” he said.”
“religious freedom”
Only Muslims have religious freedom in the USA.
Sandra Lee Smith says
Religious freedom was never intended to cover up a POLITICAL system intent on overthrowing our government! That being the nature of Islam; a political system with the thin veil of religiosity over it, it is NOT intended to be covered by our Constitution; and there is a law that prohibits them being permitted into the US in the first place!
Marty says
Does anyone really listen to this failed president?
Karen says
No, not in the least, except for the fans at Huffington Post. I’m sure they hang on to every word, and marvel at his brilliance.
Rob Porter says
Marty, millions of Americans must, and these same nitwits will support Hillary Clinton despite all the evidence of another first rate pathological liar, fraud and incompetent.
Jay Boo says
The only way that someone with such a stinking history as Hillary could possibly get elected is if another first rate pathological liar such as a NYC billionaire real estate investor who routinely makes crude sexist remarks becomes a distracting foil for her to rally her Femi-NAZI’s together.
Alan says
Many of the highly educated younger people will elect her because she has a vagina. Thats the only reason they need. They are too busy to keep up with all this unpleasantness in the news. If all the racist, sexist bigots would just go away the world would be fine, islam is a religion of peace. Talk to them some time that is exactly the tripe you will get from them before they start yelling at you!
H says
Yes, sadly the moonbat idiot liberals still hang on every word that spews forth from the mouth of this communist traitor, Barack Obama. They are still spellbound and starry-eyed when they see him. Liberals see and hear only what they want to see and hear. That’s what makes them so dangerous in this time of WW III.
Diane Harvey says
That was great, Robert.
And to the point of stigmatization and Muslims, we DO NOT stigmatize them. They have brought every bit of our viewing them suspiciously on themselves because of their anti-social behavior. Can’t get any more anti-social when killing non-Muslims is seen as acceptable.
sidney penny says
“Enormous contributions to our country and our way of life”.????
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2012/08/pamela-geller-1001-pieces-of-islamic-supremacist-propaganda-fabricated-exhibit-comes-to-dc
President Barack Obama must be referring to the 1001 Muslim Inventions without which, he and the United State of America would not exist!
sidney penny says
“Enormous contributions to our country and our way of life”.????
Yes yes yes I forgot the American Muslim science contribution that the President was talking about,without which America would not be NO 1.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/07/the-myth-of-islamic-science
mortimer says
Obama: “We have to reject any attempt to stigmatize…”
Hold it. ‘Stigmatize.’ If I wear the symbols of the KKK or Nazi Party or communist party…would someone ask me WHY I’m wearing those symbols? Undoubtedly! Would that be ‘STIGMATIZING’ or would that be a legitimate concern?
Americans legitimately want to know what Muslims in America think. Are Muslims in America loyal to the caliphate? Do they want to overthrow the US constitution and replace it with Sharia? How do they plan to overthrow the constitution?
It is legitimate for Americans to ask, “How do Muslims in America differ from ISIS?…moreover, do they differ in any substantive way from ISIS?”
mortimer says
From opinion surveys of Muslims in the US and worldwide, it is obvious that about half of Muslims in America and about 65% of Muslims worldwide want strict Sharia law and caliphate.
About a million Muslims in America have no strong doctrinal difference with ISIS. They substantively agree with ISIS, while not wishing to endorse ISIS brutal methods, Muslims in America endorse the result of strict discriminatory Sharia law.
A million Muslims in America are complete religious bigots.
Don McKellar says
Obama has crossed the line from being a shadowy, self-centered, deceptive, evil man working to advance Islam across the globe, to an outright monster with this horrific “response” the jihad terror in Belgium.
Ginger says
He has no worries about being elected, so he doesn’t have to pretend any more.
quotha raven says
To Ginger – who says “…he doesn’t have to pretend any more.”
With all due respect, Ginger, Obama has NEVER pretended in the least to be anything other than what he is, what he wants to achieve. He made his ideology perfectly clear, repeatedly, before he even ran for president. And he has NEVER deviated one degree from his original stance, but only used the power of the office to enable and empower his agenda. He’s done a masterful job of it, too, even managing to dupe many Americans into thinking he is “naïve” or “clueless”. Not a bit of it..
Although he was recognizably dangerous from the getgo, many, like me, probably enjoyed the illusion earlier on that Congress and the Supremes would keep this despot in check. Instead, we have seen a most cynical “hands off” negligence from those we elected to represent us.
Welcome to Post-Constitutional USA.
There are none so blind as those who refuse to see.
Cheers!
quotha raven
Mark Swan says
Absolutely quotha raven
Cheers
Jaladhi says
What enormous contribution – Saint Bernardino shooting, Boston marathon bombing, times Square bombing,..
We can live without those enormous Muslim contributions!!
dumbledoresarmy says
And Chattanooga shooting, and Fort Dix, and Fort Hood. And vehicular jihad, running down random pedestrians with cars in San Francisco and North Carolina.
Jaladhi says
>“counterproductive” in the fight against radical Islam.”
This is such a canard. So far I have not seen Muslims helping us in fight against their co -religionists, they never do and they never will! It is against their religion.
Dov Berrol says
Every time someone spews out that term Islamophobia, I think: it’s no wonder I am afraid of Islam…it is an extremely frightening and terrifying ideology.
But we need to also respond with a new term: Kuffar Hatred. We need to shine a light for all the world to see on the rampant Kuffar Hatred originating in the hateful Koran.
jura says
another islamophobia lecture.
Jay Boo says
His legacy of pandering to get Muslims to act nice has repeatedly been a failure.
He is ignoring his own advice to — “not make the same mistakes over and over”
Obama is doubling-down like a self-righteous clown.
In some ways he reminds me of (non-religious) Woody Allen who mocks Judaism yet defends Muslims right to build a ground Zero mosque.
40 Obama quotes on Islam and Christianity
http://conservativetribune.com/obama-islam-and-christianity
Jay Boo says
Here is woody Allen clip
Mark Swan says
Jay Boo…Thank You For That List Of Quotes…As The Title Says…Shocking…it has always
been apparent He was prejudice towards American Heritage…these opinions are indeed
disturbing…for The President of The American People to hold.
Again Thanks Jay Boo…You did good posting that link.
somehistory says
His version, his definition, of what sin is: going against his values, or some such…he really does think he is god. Just like satan thinks he is god.
Mark Swan says
You Are Right Every Sorry Human Has That Problem.
cs says
Almost 8000 comments lashing this abhorrent POTUS.
Karen says
I have no problem acknowledging that many thousands of ordinary Muslims contribute to the American economy and community on a daily basis, and that they are good citizens, and pay their taxes like good Americans. God bless them for that. But can we be honest? Our civilization is built on Christianity, democratic ideals of ancient Greece, and Western Enlightenment. Our nation is not built on Islamic ideals, which seems a good thing, since most of the Islamic world appears to be appalling.
But, I fear that the only path to cooperation with Islam is for Westerners to re-write the history of Islam and Mohammad, and to re-frame both in the image of a modern world, and submit to it. As such, Mohammad becomes a bold champion of democracy and women’s rights and the Islamic empires become republics dedicated to multiculturalism and religious tolerance. I suppose the hope is that Islam will then live up to its shiny new image. And the many ignorant will look on with admiration for all of Islam’s unlikely accomplishments. This is quite similar to giving a Nobel Peace Prize to Arafat, hoping that he’ll stop murdering people, or to Gorbachev, because he broke with USSR tradition, and refrained from sending in the tanks.
So, the only way we can stop the Islamists is to…..enable Islamism?? Yes, there will be no reform until we all agree to elevate Mohammad, and think good thoughts about Islam. Today I read that the Muslim president of Nigeria, who promised his own version of hope and change and got a large portion of the Christian majority to vote him into office, will likely impose Sharia law throughout the land. You can’t teach an old dog new tricks after all.
Happy Easter from one of the shoeless hordes.
sham says
#Westerners to re-write the history of Islam and Mohammad, and to re-frame both in the image of a modern world……
QURANIC LAW PRACTICABLE TO ALL SOCIETY :
The greatest proof for the Qur’an being a practicable book is
the very revolution that has been wrought by it. If we examine the
condition of Arabia before and after the revelation of the Qur’an, we
will be convinced of the practicable nature of the Qur’an.
It was a society which was steeped in the darkness of blind
superstitions; which was enslaved to the addiction to wine and
intoxicants; which showed not the least hesitation in the spilling of
blood over senseless conflicts to assert tribal superiority; which was
nowhere in the matter of knowledge and learning; which was ignorant
in the field of health care; which remained backward in the field of
agriculture; which lacked cohesiveness as a political and military bloc.
This was the state of Arabia before the revelation of the Qur’an.
When we look upon the Arabia after the revelation of the Qur’an,
however, it is the picture of the standard bearers of a civilization that
challenged, in its greatness, all the other civilizations of the day, which
we witness. Indeed, they had attained such prominence as to stand
higher that the Greeks who were the masters of the day in the fields
of science and arts. Alexandria was soon replaced by Baghdad as the
greatest centre of learning and culture. Furthermore, they now caused
to tremble even the empires of Rome and Persia both of which had
enjoyed the legacy of political leadership that were centuries old. The
Arabs, who engaged in unjustifiable tribal warfare and the wanton
spilling of blood, had now emerged as the flag bearers of unity and
cohesiveness. Not having known what morality and immorality were,
they now became the chief propagators of a moral code. The Holy
Qur’an had truly succeeded in remoulding Arabian society into one
which would prove to be a model for the whole world; and that too
within the span of only 23 years.
The Qur’an has, thus, been a book that enabled an entire race,
which had been nowhere in the fields of culture and civilization, to
attain the very pinnacle of human development within the short span
of twenty- three years. In fact, there has not been another book that
equals it in so transforming a whole race. The fact becomes abundantly
clear here that there has not been any other writing like the Qur’an
which has proved to be as practicable in guiding humanity to the path
of righteousness.
In reality, none of the critics of the Qur’an has been able to
prove the non-practicability of any of the laws enshrined in it, in an
impartial and truthful manner.
Karen says
Yes, strike at their necks, slay and be slain, kill them wherever you find them!
LOL, I rest my case.
Mark Swan says
Your Right Karen
Susan B says
So stoning female rape victims and beheading non believers for not bowing down to satan is good. For the record islam contributed nothing, created nothing, everything this lie called islam claimed as theirs they stole from the advanced civilizations they conquered. Islam is a lie built on lies and sustained by lies. Look to the killing manual to see how evil this cult is look to the hadiths to see how evil mohammad was. Look to any islamic country to see how backward and barbaric islam is especially to females and those that refuse to bow down to their phoney god allah. By the way after 400 years of slaughter by muslim invaders and the slaughter of over 270 million the Crusaders finally stepped in to put a stop to this evil. How do you think this cult grew but by convert or die and dare to leave and die and rape jihad. It is the dare to leave and die that has kept this evil cult afloat.
Yusuf al-Qaradawi, head of the Muslim Brotherhood and one of the most respected leaders of Sunni Islam. Said:
“If they had gotten rid of the apostasy punishment islam wouldn’t exist today. Islam would have ended since the death of the prophet. Opposing apostasy is what kept islam to this day.”
Jay Boo says
Islam’s bandwagon
Why do Muslims around the world pray at the same time of day?
It is the same reason that a cowardly gang rapist seeks out others to join in the dirty deed.
Westman says
Yes, Sham,
No book has been more effective in influence, by enshrining the base desire of men to rule over each other, than the Quran. It is a veritable cornucopua of mixed messages and diatribes against unbelievers and Jews. It is a disorganized mess that is not even in chronological order, assembled by 7th and 8th century Islamic Scholars for their own purpose.
And that great scientific development by “Muslims” was acomplished by Persians and Indians before Islam took over, and it died in Bagdad by 1100 because of the overbearing controls of Islam. Even the so-called Arabic Numerals came from India. Frankly, after 1100, Islam contributed nothing to science.
You brag about the great number of Muslims. At 20% of the world’s population – where are your 20% of current scientific contributions and those since 1100? Why is tiny Israel making more scientific progress than the entire Umma of Islam?
Give it up Sham. Islam has proven itself to be the the ultimate nihilism, swallowing all the energy and purpose of the Umma, directed by clever Clerics, in a massive slavery to an Allah who never made an appearance. A sadistic Allah who delights in the torture of humans for minor offenses; yet calls for murder of unbelievers and Jews. There is no legitimate justification for the militant origins of Islam. It is the religion of bedouin robbers that, without oil, still operates as a parasitic structure. Even Marx was unable to dream up such an effective system of control.
We’re glad you love your life and being a slave with limited options, Sham. However, we won’t be joining you. Janna, the ultimate Pleasure Palace, with more slaves(servants-slavery in Islam forever), could only appeal to the base mind of a poor, hungry, 7th century sex-starved marauder. Nothing could become more boring and stagnant in the modern mind.
heidi says
well said, and when they conquered, raped, enslaved the people in the territory they destroyed, they claimed the accomplishments of the natives as their own. (http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/myths/science.aspx) they re-write history just as the obama administration has done with it’s purging of documents to appease muslim demands (Stephan Couglin’s “Catastrophic Failure” is a must read for every American)
Western Canadian says
Even for a muslim, sham is a moron. Which about says it all. muslims like him, even if they have never spilled a drop of any ones blood, are as guilty as the paper shufflers in the death camps. None of them deserve to live.
Tom W Harris says
Stuff if Shammy. Islam ain’t nuthin’ but filth and neither are you.
maghan says
What a stupidly blind nonsensical appraisal of an illiterate and violent specimen. The nonsense begins with the rigmarole about some fairy from Jewish folklore having a chat with an illiterate.
Jay Boo says
Let’s STOP stigmatizing Muslims.
Islam stigmatizes Muslims.
Obama, here is a plan.
Let’s STOP Islam.
Ralph Statum says
http://www.snopes.com/politics/medical/exemptions.asp
Jay Boo says
“If you like your plan you can keep your plan”
Unless, it questions Islam’s plan.
Troybeam says
American Muslims, European Muslims, Middle Eastern Muslims & Muslims the world over: This section of humanity segregates themselves from all other people of humanity, thus creating a separate secular society that is not welcoming of all others. If American Muslims love our nation why do more than 50% want sharia law? Until Muslims denounce sharia law and live under our Constitution their threat of our nation will always remain leaving Muslims and people in a Catch 22 situation.
sham says
Under which type do the penal laws of the Qur’an fall? Are they oriented towards the individual or towards the society?
The vision of the Qur’an as regards the concepts such as individual, society and the like is totally different from that of the materialistic ideologies. This is evident also in its penal laws. Islam is never in consonance with the Freudian school of thought which sees in man nothing but a mere puppet that could never break free of the strangulating influences of the circumstances of his birth and environment. The Marxian view that it is economic change alone which determines all feelings of self and values is also alien to Islam. The outlook of capitalism, too, which holds that the full light of personality can shine forth only if those born free are also allowed to live their lives in complete freedom is, also rejected by Islam. However, Islam recognizes the fact that wealth, circumstances and environment all have their effect on the personality of men. But the person, as such, is never created by them. The individual feeling of self and the capacity to decide his stand in differing circumstances both fall under the prerogatine of the soul. Indeed, this has been the divine grace endowed upon man, and man alone. For it is this very soul that enables him to distinguish between good and evil and to decide his own choice between the two.
It is the individuals who constitute a society. It is, moreover, the divine laws which seek to purify the individual. It is certain, then, that the society which is made up of individuals who imbibe, within themselves, the moral laws will be one in which peace and goodness reigns. The individual is obliged to obey these laws. For it is only through this that a self purification becomes possible. Even so, there will be, in every society, at least some who try to deviate from the moral code. If such people are not stopped, it will become the cause for evil becoming rampant in society leading, thereby, to a state of anarchy and chaos. The laws of the Shariah are meant to prevent just such a growth of evil.
The very objective of the penal laws in the Qur’an is to maintain the individual and society in a state of perpetual purity. Islam does not envisage a view whereby the individual may be sacrificed for the society or the society for the individual. Nevertheless, the capitalistic outlook which does not tolerate even the slightest encroachment of the individual and the communist one which holds that even the most basic urges of the individual ought to be sacrificed for the society are both alien to Islam. The vision of Islam, on the other hand, holds that it is never a mutually clashing relationship which must exist between the individual and society. It is values that necessarily binds them together harmoniously. The penal laws of the Qur’an serve to purify the individual and society by way of protecting these values. Thus, they are centered neither on the individual nor on the society.
Jay Boo says
sham said
“Islam does not envisage a view whereby the individual may be sacrificed for the society…”
Tell that to the orgasmic bloodlust rage of a mob of Muslims in an about to tear apart an innocent person falsely accused of burning a Qur’an.
Mark Swan says
Very Good Analogy.
Bill says
This is what the Prime Minister of Turkey said just a few days ago while visiting the unveiling of the 100 million dollar and biggest Mosque in the world with Obama while the crowd shouted, Allah Ackbar, Allah Ackbar, Allah Ackbar”
Here is his exact quote; “The term ‘moderate Islam’ is ugly and offensive. There is no moderate Islam. Islam is Islam.”
“the mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minarets our Bayonets and the faithful our soldiers.”
This one-hundred-million-dollar mega mosque by the way will be opening in Maryland right here in the good ole USA.
Karen says
How amusing that you ramble on, comparing Sharia to Freudian phycology, Capitalism and Communism, none of which are the basis for Western Law.
Sharia is a hard master that seeks the complete submission of the individual to Allah. Aside from the many details it demands of Muslims in private daily life (none of my business), it endorses the enslavement and humiliation of non-Muslim women, and the degradation, isolation and taxation of non-Muslims (very much my business). Its goal is political supremacism; it stifles debate, demanding that Islam be protected from the critiques of free speech, with its disgusting blasphemy laws. It is vile, and it’s encroachment within Western societies must be denounced.
Westman says
This is cut and paste(sham) from Sham. We’ve seen his previous diatribes and this is not his writing style. He is now plagiarizing.
This is a copy of a post by “shabeer_hassan” in the comments section of the following JW:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2015/01/montreal-muslim-cleric-with-jihad-ties-denied-permit-for-islamic-center
Karen says
Interesting! He certainly attempts to dazzle us with flowery nonsense, and fails miserably, doesn’t he? Now he is a plagerizer….pathetic.
Western Canadian says
You do have to admit, that a moron coming by and posing his drivel, does give an excellent view of how demented and dim, muslims are.
abad says
Um, there is NO such thing as an “individual” in Islam.
That is why Muslims can never integrate into the western world.
Westman says
Plagiarizing now, Sham. Shame, shame. Isn’t honesty taught in Islam? Oh, duh, how forgetful I am. It isn’t lying when you are deceitful with Infidels.
More Ham Ed says
Quote “state of perpetual purity”
It is one thing, among others, that jihadis and leftists have in common, and that is some kind of “paradise on earth” even though every islamic country is a disaster area of fear, and every leftist city or leftist country is the least safe area to live in.
Alan says
Is that why your co religionist murdered another of your co religionistsin Scotland for wishung Christians a happy Easter and sat onhis body laughing while he died. You are so full of s**t! Which of your “pure values” was he upholding?
Champ says
This is your brain on islam: the sham man!
Cecilia Ellis says
“The very objective of the penal laws in the Qur’an is to maintain the individual and society in a state of perpetual purity.”
No, “the very objective of the penal laws in the Qur’an is to maintain the individual and society in a state of perpetual” fear, the trademark of Islam.
Westman says
So true, Cecilia.
vicki says
sham says –
‘The very objective of the penal laws in the Qur’an is to maintain the individual and society in a state of perpetual purity” – and it is a sham [“a thing that is not what it is purported to be.”]!!
I believe sham man is pulling our leg. He has taken the place or our resident comedian old Rezie boy/girl
ah…. the purity of thighing your 6 year old wife then raping her at age 9. Oh, or the marrying, having sex with a child and then after you are sure she is not pregnant and has not started her “courses” divorce her!!!
maghan says
All bonafide Muslims are obligated to accept and prefer Sharia to any other kind of law. Sharia is “God’s Law” and is infinitely superior to positive or man-made secular law.
Angemon says
How many terror plots were stopped because your “most important partners” tipped the authorities?
Someone should write a book about these alleged “enormous contributions” – I bet it would be almost as thick as “Contraceptive methods approved by the Vatican”, “The Amish Phone Book” or “Bill Clinton’s Book of Virtue”…
Cecilia Ellis says
? ? ?
abad says
“We have to reject any attempt to stigmatize Muslim-Americans, and their enormous contributions to our country”
The list of contributions:
9-11
Boston Marathon
San Bernardino
Chattanooga, TN
Moore, OK (Islamist beheads a woman)
Seattle, WA (Islamist kills 2 gay men)
Feel free to add to the list of enormous contributions of Muslims to the USA….
linnte says
For the life of me, I cannot think of ANY contributions Muslims have made. I AM wondering though, if they can get away with not having Obama care, does that mean they get out of paying taxes? Is there a loophole some where for that?
heidi says
since they come in as “refugees” they are entitled to free medical care (housing, food stamps, legal aid also just to name a few more goodies that you pay for) This is the reason you pay more for obama care to cover the cost. so, are the great accomplishments they give us in return such as turning our technology (cell phone, laptops, airplanes) into weapons of mass destruction worth it?
pennant8 says
With each outreach to the Muslim world, and with each lecture to the American people hinting at the evils of Islamophobia, Obama reveals himself more and more to be the Meccachurian candidate.
Rev g says
Nice wordplay…Meccachurian!
unbeliever1 says
I guess Obama know more than this ex Muslim
Muhammad Syed: Ex-Muslim
Cecilia Ellis says
With a slight modification of William Shakespeare’s “Hamlet” quotation, I offer this simple analysis: “The President doth protest too much, methinks.”
Karen says
Yes, it’s a tale told by an idiot. I literally know of no one who is out to hurt or “stigmatize” Muslims. Even after the latest atrocities no one wants to cause discomfort to individual Muslims, so what is the president talking about??
bridgette says
When did bombing raping and looting become a contribution?
Shmooviyet says
The same sort of ‘islamic contribution’ seen across the Western world as the invasion continues.
(What else can they offer?) BO is referring to their part in his fundamental transformation. More misery caused is, in his mind, a ‘contribution’.
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
They’ve contributed lots.
Their murderous rampages v our country in the 1700’s-aka ‘The Barbary Pirates’-begot the institution of the Marine Corps.
That continued into the 1800’s, and our military strength grew.
More recently they’ve contributed to the rise of patriotic organizations such as our ‘SIOA’. Finally: They’ve contributed to the rise of Trump and Cruz.
Let’s be fair now…(!)
jewdog says
Obama takes the concept to egalitarianism to absurd lengths, to the point where he refuses to provide special immigration status for religious minorites in war-torn Muslim countries. Consistency is the hobgoblin of his little mind.
Wellington says
My favorite sentence in this excellent article by Robert Spencer is the first one: “Obama’s timing is grotesque.”
Indeed. But no surprise here since Obama in sundry ways is grotesque. The man is abysmal and seems quite determined to learn nothing about how the world really works. In this regard, he has been quite successful.
As for the specific matter of stigmatizing Muslims, they should be stigmatized, as should, let’s see here, KKK members, Neo-Nazis, anarchists, Marxists and those who order a diet soda while at the same time ordering a cheeseburger and fries. Of course, no one should be harmed solely because they are deficient (as all groups I already mentioned above are). In fact, anyone doing so should be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. But stigmatizing such people? Oh yes, stigmatize away because they are so deserving of it. After all, social ostracism is a very important avenue to pursue by which those who are a drag or even a menace to society can be contained and relegated to a non-influential status. No group of losers is more deserving of stigmatization in free societies than Muslims since what they adhere to would effectively destroy freedom at least as much as any other group of people would. In fact, in this regard, since there are well over 1 billion Muslims in the world, the “stigmatization Imperative” should never be lost sight of because this group, i.e., Muslims, constitute the greatest threat to liberty of any group people on the planet.
Arthur says
Obama speaking about values is comparable to
– a blind man speaking about color
– a deaf man speaking about music
Fight ignorance! Read the Koran!
Western Canadian says
The thug in chief comments about islam (RTC) have always been such utter drivel, such total falsehoods and inversions of the truth, that it cannot be out of ignorance.
He is lying through his teeth. Period.
Bezelel says
The reverend imam barracktooey hussein obola zika, the wise and all knowing has spoken. He has proven himself shameless in promoting the death cult and has shown his contempt for the USA. How is it possible in this day in age, with an internet to aid in fact checking, video to capture the acts, and available to the public, how is it possible that this POS we have calling himself president, because I sure as hell don’t call him that, How is it possible that he is not called out on his blatant lies?
somehistory says
Really, really, really, really, tired of the *that’s not who we are* and *that’s just helping the terrorists* and *that’s not our values* and *that’s not our history* and *religious freedom* calls for all to bow and scrap to the adherents of the cult of satan.
he doesn’t know *who we are* because he thinks like a moslim. his values are not ours because he values islam and its fake prophet who lusted after and raped and killed children.
Really, the only ones having real *religious freedom* are the moslims. Everyone has to be so very careful that they don’t fire one from a job for preying instead of working (preying is what they do; they are not praying); no one can connect them to islam when they commit *workplace killing* or when they carry a home-made bomb part to school, none can call police to have it taken away…without fearing a lawsuit.
They are not held accountable when terrorists come straight out of a barracks and commit crimes. The barracks is held up as a special place where the school kids are taken to recite the pledge to their false prophet, schools are indoctrinating the kids right in the classroom, in the unlawful practices of islam.
And the *stigma* is already on islam…moslims put it there themselves when they follow their horrid books that tell them it’s a good thing to rape children, blow up parks full of kids, crash planes into buildings and cut the heads off Christians and stab Jews…*wherever they find them.*
These unlawful behaviors are what give islam the mark of disgrace and infamy. One who obeys these infamous behaviors by practicing such disgraceful things and repeating them daily, stigmatize themselves.
(Revelation)
Mark Swan says
Yes Indeed
Cecilia Ellis says
“How is it possible that he is not called out on his blatant lies?”
Bezelel, he is called out, but those who do so are labeled promptly, particularly by the MSM, as any one or more of the following: Islamophobe, right-winger, racist, anti-American, etc. In short, the left’s progressive agenda takes precedence over the truth, even to the death of Americans.
Remember, during the 2008 presidential campaign, at a fundraiser in Philadelphia, Obama sarcastically set the tone against conservatives with this statement: “If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun.”
The past seven years have ensured that those who speak out against him are punished.
Bezelel says
Cecilia Ellis, MSM is AKA Enemedia. A propaganda tool for the globalists whose conscience has been seared with a hot iron. How can they even spew the lies and cover the tracks of these traitors with a straight face? The 08 election was the beginning of a wake up call, but bill clinton attacking Serbia should have been. He can be quoted for saying that he didn’t think the US needed to be a super power anymore. I didn’t have internet then and relied on the MSM to tell us the Serb’s were ethnic cleansing the poor little muslims. I have to go to bed now, perchance to dream, of obola in an orange jump suit in Gitmo. The only excuse for that bastid to to cuba.
Cecilia Ellis says
Roger that, Bezelel! Hope you sleep well and have a great dream . . . because you will awaken to the reality of the nightmare we’ve been living since January 20, 2008.
Cecilia Ellis says
Oops . . Make that 2009 vice 2008.
Norman Moffatt says
Give it up Obama, the World is sick and tied of the your BS, Here’s some Islamic tolerance, Qur’an 33:60 They [Kafirs] will be cursed, and wherever they are found, they will be seized and murdered. It was Allah’s same practice with those who came before them, and you will find no change in Allah’s ways.
Noel says
Enough of your political correctness President Barack Obama. We are tired of your nonsense cover-up of the evils of Islam. Sometimes I doubt your sincerity Mr. President that you are a Christian. My first impression of you is that you are hiding under the cloak of being a Southern Baptist just to hide your Islamic true identity.
I am so saddened by these dangerous teachings of false prophet Muhammad who taught his followers to Murder all Kafirs.
Kafir means anyone not an Islamic, so these guys are theirs to kill — the Jews, Hindu, and Christians seemed to be the worst of the Kafirs, but they are pretty much open to anyone.
Moreoever, prophet Muhammad ordered also to murder the Pagans — Quran 9: 5: “Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters [Hindu] wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush. But if they repent and establish worship and pay the poor-due [become Muslim], then leave their way free. Lo! Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.” HA!!!
Quran 22: 19-22: “for them (the unbelievers) garments of fire shall be cut and there shall be poured over their heads boiling water whereby whatever is in their bowels and skin shall be dissolved and they will be punished with hooked iron rods.” Does boiling water over a head, dissolving someone’s skin and insides, or a hooked iron rod punishments sound sane???
Is this religion of Islam you want us to believe that it is a religion of peace?
Richard says
Obama: “We have to reject any attempt to stigmatize Muslim-Americans, and their enormous contributions to our country”
For example Muslims like Major Nidal Hasan who massacred unarmed recruits, the Tsarnaev brothers who killed and maimed innocent runners, many others and most of all myself.
Singlehandedly I have imported millions of Muslims, who have allegiance only to Shariah and Islam and none to the constitution of the USA. Singlehandedly I have spread Islamic extremists in Iraq, Libya, Syria, Nigeria, Sudan and Somalia. I have caused the Muslim invasion and conquest of Europe and tried my best with America. I have brought America to the brink of economic collapse.
What greater contribution could there be of Muslims to America? To bring America and west to the dark age of Islam. How glorious.
Florida Jim says
Obama is a lying idiot who distorts muslim history to make something positive when, inn fact, they have contributed nothing they have been a blight on the world. Every country in Africa has been a blight and remains so. America has wasted trillions of dollars and all we get is hatred and more lies.America is such a good country the others are embarrassed by our goodness and can only raise their esteem by bringing down America. Obama hates America his life is a tribute to the possibilities America offers and he spits on us, like muslims do.
An example to relish:: in “New Deal or Raw Deal?” Burton Folsom quotes Morgenthau, testifying before the House Ways and Means Committee in May of 1939, the FDR ally did not sugarcoat it: “We are spending more money than we have ever spent before and it does not work. I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. We have never made good on our promises. I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started and an enormous debt to boot.”
FDR’s distorted history still being taught in schools everywhere.
RiseAKnight says
He IS a Muslim … plain and simple.
John Van Vliet says
What a BS story is that, thanks to Islam and its teaching we have line up in airports due ti security matters that are caused by Islamic extremist, we have seen murders of innocent people ,,,,by muslims we have seen the cost of security world wide sky rocking…..thank to Islam
Thousand of innocent people are being killed in the name of Allah(islam)
Obama is deliberately creating issues and problems , this man is irrational and has , as most liberals a understanding what is right and wrong……it is unbelievable this man to hear him spout out all kinds of issues based on nothing……bur has twisted the truth time and time again…It is sad the liberals and conservatives are seem to be united in supporting this evil man over the past 7 years… they dislike Trump’s honesty but love the lying rhetoric of Obama and his cohords…….. I just Cannot believe this evil man…. a Fatwa would may help to get rid of him…..
TS Garp says
Check this list of enormous contributions of muslims to America. Than you might understand that Obama IS a muslim and has only one agenda: the destruction of the USA.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks/american-attacks.aspx
Cecilia Ellis says
TS, thank you for providing this link! It is a tremendous tool in the hands of one who is fed up with hearing about “the beauty of Islam,” “ISIS is not Islamic,” “American Muslims fear backlash” [without justification by historical evidence], “Islam is a religion of peace,” etc. No amount of Pepto Bismol will deter the overwhelming, chronic nausea that I feel when I hear supremacist narratives or lying diatribes. Islam is not beautiful; nor is it a religion of peace. Instead, it is the personification of evil present in the world for 1400 years.
heidi says
another one you wold like:http://www.breitbart.com/big-journalism/2015/07/26/1001-muslim-myths-and-historical-revisions/
Cecilia Ellis says
Thanks, Heidi! Another great tool! As soon as I saw your comment, I accessed the link that you provided. I have already stored the information on my computer’s hard drive. While I knew some of the information provided, I did not know it all. Thanks to you, I now do.
Stephen says
No Mr. Obama what we need to reject is you and your treason!
Marcel Bérubé says
Dear BHO,
When I buy a plane ticket to go see my friends on the west coast, it cost
me more now than before. The reason is that I have to cover the charges security cost
since 9 /11. On a 1200 $ back and forth ticket, Mr President , how much is devoted to such
an item ? I would like to thanks muslims for it .
January 2017 seems more far away every day is passing by, curiously .
John Marshall says
We don’t want to stigmatize Jeffery Dahmer now do we otherwise he can’t get his job done….
Willy says
The most significant contribution was 9/11
Tina Konopka says
We, as in the USA, have been fighting the muslims since President Thomas Jefferson day. He sent our Navy to the north coast of Africa to fight the muslims pirates.
Kathy Brown, Esq. says
Indeed we have Tina. I taught that to my ‘American History’ class recently.
Indeed that was the inception of the Marines, in 1792. And they’re called ‘Leathernecks’ because they had to wear leather collars, the better to prevent the muslim savages from chopping off their heads.
Savages then, savages now. Some things never change.