Apparently if we’re all “children of the same God,” we’re racist, bigoted and Islamophobic to be concerned about jihad terror committed by Muslim migrants, and certainly have placed ourselves beyond the pale of the Catholic Church, which apparently would prefer the West to commit suicide rather than defend itself.
The Pope has washed the feet of Muslims before. What does he mean by it? If he means simply to imitate Christ’s action of extreme humility at the Last Supper, and to demonstrate that no one is beyond the pale of God’s mercy, no Christian could object to that. However, coming at a time when Muslim persecution of Christians is escalating worldwide, and when there is very serious concern about the Catholic Church’s apparent determination to accommodate Islamic supremacism at all costs, and not speak up for the persecuted Christians, this foot-washing can unfortunately be interpreted as meaning that the Church is surrendering and bowing down to its new Islamic overlords. As Christians in the Middle East are being slaughtered on a massive scale by Muslims, this looks more like surrender and submission than charity.
If the Pope really meant by washing these Muslims’ feet that Catholics and Christians in general should not defend themselves and their loved ones and their homelands against the global jihad and Islamic supremacism, then his gesture is not only lamentable, but in contradiction to centuries of Church teaching about the right and even the duty of defending oneself. It is also worth noting, if any of the Muslims whose feet he washed were women, that if the Pope had dared to touch and kiss a Muslim woman’s feet in Saudi Arabia or Iran, he would have been immediately killed.
Above all, his act of humility would not have been received in the spirit in which it was intended. Among all too many Muslims worldwide it will be seen as his, and the Church’s weakness. Nor will it be reciprocated by any Muslim authority, in any way, shape or form.
As for being “children of the same God,” what would Pope Francis make of these Qur’an verses, were he to know about them (as he almost certainly does not):
Christians have forgotten part of the divine revelations they received: “From those, too, who call themselves Christians, We did take a covenant, but they forgot a good part of the message that was sent them: so we estranged them, with enmity and hatred between the one and the other, to the day of judgment. And soon will Allah show them what it is they have done.” — Qur’an 5:14
Jesus is not the Son of God: “O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter aught concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not “Three” – Cease! (it is) better for you! – Allah is only One Allah. Far is it removed from His Transcendent Majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as Defender.” — Qur’an 4:171
“It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, ‘Be,’ and it is.” — Qur’an 19:35
Those who believe that Jesus is God’s Son are accursed: “The Jews call ‘Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say. Allah’s curse be on them: how they are deluded away from the Truth! ” — Qur’an 9:30
Jesus was not crucified: “And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, Allah’s messenger – they slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them; and lo! those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain.” — Qur’an 4:157
Muslims must wage war against and subjugate Christians: “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which has been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, of the People of the Book, until they pay the jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.” — Qur’an 9:29
And there’s the Pope now, helpfully feeling himself subdued.
“‘Children of the same God’: Pope Francis washes the feet of Muslim migrants,” by Elahe Izadi, Washington Post, March 25, 2016:
They came from Mali, Eritrea, Syria and Pakistan. They were Muslim, Hindu, Catholic and Coptic Christians. And one by one, Pope Francis knelt down before these migrants on Holy Thursday and washed their feet.
The ritual, performed in a center for asylum seekers outside of Rome, comes amid anti-immigrant sentiment in Europe and in the wake of a terrorist attack in Brussels, for which the Islamic State has claimed responsibility.
“All of us together, Muslims, Hindus, Catholics, Copts, Evangelical [Protestants] brothers and sisters – children of the same God – we want to live in peace, integrated,” Francis said during his homily.
What? What about Jews? Buddhists? They’re not children of the same God?
The foot-washing ritual became a part of Holy Thursday Mass in the 1950s. Jesus washed the feet of his 12 apostles at the Last Supper. The symbolic act also imitates Jesus’s gesture of servitude.
A number of the migrants whose feet were washed by the pope had tears streaming down their faces.
Shortly after Francis became pope in 2013, he washed the feet of Muslims.
A massive crowd didn’t turn out to participate in the ceremony or listen to the pope’s homily on Thursday, though. From the Associated Press:
Francis was greeted with a banner reading “Welcome” in a variety of languages as he walked down a makeshift aisle to celebrate the Mass. But only a fraction of the 892 asylum-seekers living at the shelter attended, and many of the seats were left empty. Those who came out, though, received a personal greeting: At the end of the Mass, Francis greeted each refugee, one by one, posing for selfies and accepting notes as he moved down the rows.
Francis condemned the attack in Brussels and those behind such violence. “There are manufacturers, arms dealers who want blood, not peace; they want the war, not fraternity,” the pope said.
“You, we, all of us together, of different religions, different cultures, but children of the same Father, brothers – and there, those poor people, who buy weapons to wreck fraternity,” Francis said Thursday. “Today, at this time, when I do the same act of Jesus washing the feet of twelve of you, let us all make a gesture of brotherhood, and let us all say: ‘We are different, we are different, we have different cultures and religions, but we are brothers and we want to live in peace.'”
The Vatican said eight men and four women took part in the ritual, AP reported, including: an Italian Catholic; three Eritrean Coptic Christians; four Catholics from Nigeria; three Muslims from Mali, Syria and Pakistan; and a Hindu man from India….

خَليفة says
Some would agree that the Pope and Islam both worship Satan.
jihad3tracker says
He might re-think that opinion when a bomb goes off outside of Saint Peter’s Basilica and the manly but fashionable Swiss Guards get their naughty bits blown away.
Jack Holan says
Pope Francis, is the outlier. He is the Neturei Karta of Jews attending an Anti-Israel seminar in Teheran. If the Pope’s decorative Swiss Guard fell defending him, he say it was terrible, pray over their souls and pay for their funerals. However, he would brand ISIS as victims, lacking education, jobs, status in the community and the Regional Violence. If we would only extend ourselves to them. Yes, I can imagine thoughts and words like this spouting from his mouth. The must be some virus that came here from space and affects the mental balance of some of the World population because these people are psychotic. Bring back Pope Benedict.
Pong says
Neturei carta has only a few dozens followers. CC has over a billion followers. To put both of them in the same sentence is very misleading. It is like to say that there are terrorists in other religions.
I have been warning people for years now that CC and most protestant churches will side with islam. The main reason is traditional anti-semitism, which makes christianity simpathetic to islam. Not all christians are anti-semitic, but not all moslems are suicide bombers either.
John Marks says
I would seem so.
chrisH says
Poor Old Francis!
He came a few years too late for the losing liberal west.
Because John Paul had already warned us all here in Europe of the “thanatos culture”-ironically enough as much a death cult as IS are today.
Because Benedicts first big speech as pope spoke of Europes sinking into secular irrelevance, having been de-Christianised, hollowed out by materialism, marxism and the like.
And when he dared to speak to his old university, whilst quoting some mild critique of Islam from way back?…well all manner of worldwide atrocities befell his nuns, his CAFOD workers.
And he left soon after,I could argue.
Francis is the Social Gospel shill of The Guardian-as near to 666 as Obama, Gore, Von Rumpoy etc as it`s possible to get.
No-Francis is the very mirror image of what Christianity needs-and will bring the Umma to his Gates in Rome very soon, as he offers to wash the feet of Al Bagdadi…with a bare neck offered that WON`T need washing…just as well really.
Gbox says
Some would be idiots. The church condemns Satan.
Lia says
But nunc francie, we don’t all worship the same God.
Sandra Lee Smith says
Highly likely, given the Jesuit mission at the order’s commission.
Dan says
Wonder how many Muslims view this not as “Washing feet” but “Kissing a…”
This pope’s an embarrassment.
JawsV says
There has never been a more stupid Pope.
Sandra Lee Smith says
Not stupid; devious! He is a Jesuit and their order was commissioned to destroy the Reformation and the Jews. This is part of that; along with bringing in the “pure worship of Lucifer”, which is part of the NWO/globalist plan!
nicu says
What a shame ! Christians get killed by Muslims every day and he was their feet ???
Nostradamus will be right : Rome will fall and it will be the center of a Caliphate !
What idiots !
Jack Holan says
There are those who would have made shoes out of him. Thank God that scourge is gone You are right there’s something on a fundamental level wrong with him as if he’s a simpleton. This is not an attack on Catholicism or Papal leadership in General. It’s about one a witless individual who keeps making non-sensical decisions.
billybob says
The Pope was indulging his foot fetish – with children no less! Disgusting – as Trump would say.
The Vilest of Creatures says
Agreed, comparing the rapefugees to Jesus greatly lowered my opinion of him (not that it was that high to begin with). This act of dhimmi like act of submission to members of a death cult fills me with disgust.
Dan says
The Vatican said eight men and four women took part in the ritual, AP reported, including: an Italian Catholic; three Eritrean Coptic Christians; four Catholics from Nigeria; three Muslims from Mali, Syria and Pakistan; and a Hindu man from India….
You mean to tell me he couldn’t get ONE JEWISH or Israeli person?
THAT would have at least symbolically meant he was trying to play peace maker, not panderer.
Benedict says
The Pope is a hypocrite. Jesus was a Jew and to have a Jewish person would have been the right thing at washing of the feet.
Yankel says
Let’s all be Jewish just like Jesus
Jay Boo says
I don’t see him washing Hindu feet or Buddhist feet.
Is the dope pope trying to claim the Abraham connection when he says “children of the same God,” ?
Islam in contrast vehemently denies ALL other religions and says Jews and Christians deserve to be killed.
Sandra Lee Smith says
Seem so; although that connection is dubious at best since Ishmael was of Egyptian, not Arab lineage on his mother’s side; and Muhammad was Arabian! But ichthe “G’bril” was almost certainly Satan (aka Lucifer), and well acquainted with scriptures from the Bible; which with great distortion became the foundation of this notion that we’re all Abrahamic religions!
the renegade says
This pope is setting such a bad precedent. Now this shows christians in a very bad light. Accepting subjugation or submission when it comes to Islam.
These muslim refugees were the same ones that were throwing kuffars into the ocean just because they dont beleive in this demon called Muhammad.
wallace says
The pontiff should go all the way and clean their arses with 3 pebbles.
Oliver says
He (pope) would probably use his tongue –to show brotherhood.
Benedict says
This Pope is playing to the gallery. Instead to keeping to what is scripture he goes about talking nonsense and practicing the same. His actions are of a weak person. The Church needs a strong person to denounce wrong, inform the west that it needs to be vocal against the persecuting of Christians. Instead he says nothing. The Brussels bombing he responds after three days. He ought to give up and let someone stronger take over
Rev g says
I hope he invited them to Sunday dinner, a nice ham. Also, he should exhibit outrage when they refuse to participate in his Easter tradition.
abad says
And bacon bits sprinkled onto the green salads. I like bacon bits. 🙂
Voytek Gagalka says
Dhimmitude at work. This pope should not be surprised when those very same Muslims whom he foolishly washed feet will come next to behead him, his Holiness, while yelling allahu akbar.
salim says
Just when you think you heard it all, there comes more.
I honestly find it hard to believe my eyes.
What happened to the world?
Those Muslims probably committed crimes against fellow Christian migrants. How can this possibly help our struggle against terrorism? This self humiliation will be regarded by billions of Muslims not just as humiliation but also confirms their views about the stupidity of the Christian faith.
gravenimage says
Salim, this pope has been doing this for years. I believe the first time was 2013:
“New Pope Washes and Kisses the Feet of Muslim Prisoners”
http://pamelageller.com/2013/03/photos-new-pope-washes-and-kisses-the-feet-of-muslim-prisoners.html/
Peggy says
It just strengthens their resolve. They can see that they have beaten the largest Christian denomination and the momentum just keeps building.
Time for Catholics to stop attending churches and start protesting in front of them. Maybe when the Vatican sees that their money is drying up they might kick this one to the curb.
I really don’t know what else can be done. I am at a total loss here.
Pong says
Peggy,
Excellent idea. Unfortunatly there are too many “proud catholics” for that to happen.
Dom 107 says
It should be obvious to all that religion of any kind is bullshit and in the case of Islam highly dangerous bullshit.The fear of death seems to cower many people into self delusion and wishful thinking.With regard to the pope look at it rationally.Some guy from South America (that Catholic haven of morality)where drug dealing,murder and every evil known to man takes place)walks around in ridiculous clothing claiming to have a direct line to a non-existent being called god. Christianity, if it had actually been followed in its original pacifist form would have been wiped out soon after the emergence of aggressive Islamic Arabic culture.
Common sense morality doesn’t need religion or clerics who in the case of Christianity speak foolish naivety and in the case of Islam demand and enforce an evil,aggressive,fascistic death loving cult on a large section of humanity.If the Pope and his fellow travellers in the Anglican, Greek Orhodox and other churches can’t see the danger then they will become even more irrelevant to the freedom loving sane bulk of humanity
Sandra Lee Smith says
Only to those delusional enough to not know they’re “hardwired”, being human, to worship something,or someone, and deny to themselves that they do! You can’t help yourself; it’s BUILT INTO you; so you have a deity; it just probably doesn’t look like the deities commonly thought of as such. Those of us who follow Yhwh and Yeshua, and KNOW them, you will never understand because you’re stuck in your carnal mind and Their ways are far above and incomprehensible to that frame of mind. But you’re very arrogant to assume only you have wisdom, when what you have is the worst kind of folly!
Shmooviyet says
Open the Vatican walls to muslim refugees, you faux-Pope, as you are exhorting the rest of the world to do.
And give your guards a month-long vacation while you are giving shelter to those refugees.
Be an example to we, the misunderstanding ‘phobes; show us the courage behind your (proclaimed) convictions.
JawsV says
Dear Pope Francis: Jesus and allah are NOT the same you moron!
Richard Paulsen says
No muslim woman? Not a single woman from an islamic country? Who escaped? Of course there isn´t. Wouldn´t stand a chance. Being stoned if daring. Only allowed to leave following and obeying a male relative.
Salome says
That was last year.
Richard Paulsen says
12 young men searching asylum. I read today.
Angry Aussie says
It’s not all bad. They had to sit through Mass before getting their feet washed. That would have been excruciatingly uncomfortable for some.
Brian Hunter says
The Pope has placed himself above the apostle Paul, who was chosen by Jesus to take the gospel to the Gentiles. Paul said “If any man, or even an angel from heaven, were to preach to you any gospel other than that which we have preached, let him be accursed.” Paul wrote these strong words because he knew there would be false teachers who would lead people astray. The Pope, disregarding the apostles exhortation, does not curse Islam a as false gospel, rather he gives Islam equivalence to the Christian gospel. I wonder if he knows, or even cares, that he is working counter to Biblical teaching.
Yankel says
If an angel from heaven preached a different gospel than my man-made Bible … It would be a no brainer and confirm that the Bible was from Hell.
Just sayin
Brian Hunter says
Paul forewarned of the advent of Islam 600 years prior. Mohammed believed he was hearing from the angel Gabriel, but Paul also said “We know that Satan disguises himself as an angel of light.”
Raja says
Brian,
Thanks for highlighting he biblical and historical truth and how God is viewing all the ignominy of this so called leader of Catholic church that woefully goes wrong on doctrine from time to time.
Sandra Lee Smith says
Might help if he’d actually READ the Book, which clearly answers so many of these crazy notions of his!
Charli Main says
Well Pope Francis certainly knows his place in the Islamic scheme of things—–at the feet of his Muslim masters. Muslims around the World will be gloating at this show of submission by the this retard.
IQ al Rassooli says
Pope Francis is only following in the footsteps of Hitler’s pope Pius XII who ‘saved his Vatican’ by grovelling to the Nazis
He did not submit to Hitler to save Catholics (millions of them were EXTERMINATED by the Nazis); Pius did it only to save the Vatican state and clergy especially since Hitler had NO respect for what he called “spineless Jewish based beliefs”.
Hitler had great respect for Muhammad & Islam because they are “manly and aggressive”
Francis thinks that the Vatican can be saved from Islam by submitting to it and by totally ignoring the suffering, death and destruction of entire Christian communities all over the Muslim world
He is most definitely leading 1.2 billion Catholics to self destruction just like the elites of Europe are doing
Francis is the worst possible dhimmi Pope at the most crucial point in history vis a vis Islam
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
Wellington says
You post many sensible comments here at JW, but your statement that Pius XII was Hitler’s Pope is pure calumny, not in accord with the facts at all. Pius, working behind the scenes, saved more Jews than any person in all of history, some 800,000. When he died in 1958 he was lauded by Jews worldwide (e.g., Golda Meir, foreign minister for Israel at the time, gave him a moving eulogy at the UN). But revisionist historians in horrible spurious fashion (e.g., John Cornwell) cooked up the great lie that because Pius did not publicly condemn Hitler (which itself is untrue, for instance Pius’ 1942 Christmas message which infuriated Hitler) that he therefore was complicit. It is one of the greatest lies accepted as truth that I have ever come across in my half century of historical study.
BTW, I am not religious and I think Francis is a fool, but Pius did great deeds and the fact that he has been so unfairly maligned tends to confirm what Napoleon said about history, that it is a pack of lies agreed upon. Reconsider here.
Oliver says
Pius and his Vatican people also got Eichmann, Mengele and others ( to escape being executed) to South America-as I recall reading-false papers.
Wellington, I disagree with you, and your assessment. However, I enjoy your comments, and agree with most. You must be a hell of a good lawyer. (Meant as a compliment, not a put down)
Wellington says
Oliver: What you think occurred is just another lie. Pius XII (and remember I am not a Catholic or any kind of Christian) tried to secure safe passage to South America via various diplomatic routes for completely innocent people. What happened from humane effort is that a few Nazis here and there successfully took advantage of this Vatican program and posed as something they weren’t. In short, some bad guys slipped through the cracks. But yet again we see the blame game asserted against Pius. As I wrote in my above comment, reconsider.
You know, the truth is often elusive, but most of the time it can be found out with hard digging. Well, dig.
Pius detested Nazism, as the encyclical Mit Breeneder Sorge unambiguously indicates. I could go into details about this encyclical but I won’t for the reason being that if one does not know all that was behind this encyclical, which almost no one who castigates Pius XII does, then this in and of itself speaks volumes about anyone condemning Eugenio Pacelli.
mortimer says
Pius received the highest praise from virtually all Jewish leaders of his time. Pius was not ‘Hitler’s Pope’. Hitler planned to murder the church leaders at a later time. Many hundreds of priest were murdered by Hitler.
There are many rumors about this topic. They are rumors that facts show to be false.
The RCC hid some 800,000 Jews during WWII.
The gods of Islam and Christianity are two different gods. They are significantly different.
Wellington says
With you again, mortimer.
gravenimage says
Good comments, Wellington and Mortimer.
mortimer says
Same? Oh, really?
You mean, Pope Francis, that Jehovah is the same god as Allah? What is the evidence?
First of all, the name is a problem. ‘Jehovah’ appears almost 7,000 times in the Old Testament and ‘Jehovah’ says this is his name ‘forever’. Why, then did the Koran not say ‘Jehovah’, rather than ‘Allah’? I think they are two different gods. Allah ‘does not love the disbelievers’, however, Jehovah ‘so loved the world.’
I think the evidence shows so far that they are totally different gods. The claim of ‘identical god’ must be dismissed as a false claim.
Yankel says
Islam is henotheistic. Allah is just the biggest God on the moon.
Allacadabra Akbar!
Walter Sieruk says
The pope should know better the to make such and outlandishly false statement that Christians and Muslims believe in the same God. For the god of Islam is a single being.In great contrast the God of the Christians Who consists as the Trinity.. Matthew 3:13-17. 28:19,19. Second Corinthians 13:13. By the Trinity Christians mean “That within the essence of the One God there are three distinct Persons. God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Otherwise known as the Tri-Personal Nature of God.” Moreover this may be further explained in the book entitled MAJOR BIBLE THEMES by Lewis Sperry Chafter..As on page 39 it reads “Many believe that the doctrine of the Trinity is implicit in the use of the word Elohim ,as the name of God which is is the plural form and seems to refer to the Triune God.” Likewise, in the Christian magazine PERHAPS TODAY on page 8 in informs the reader that about Genesis 1:1. Which reads”In the beginning God[this is the plural noun Elohim, meaning ‘ more then one’] created the heaven and the earth.” The list of proof of the great differences between the God of the Bible,the God of the Christians and the god of the Koran,, the god o Muslims can go but this should be enough to show anyone.who is willing to see, that the God of the Bible and the god of Islam are not the same..Deity So either one is the True God or the other, but they are not the same. Therefore ,what the pope said was wrong.
rooare says
Unless God regenerates a person adopting them into His family through and only through Jesus the Christ they are referred to in Scripture as children of the devil. And it was Jesus’ Disciples feet he washed not unbelievers.
Always On Watch says
Heresy from the Pope!
mortimer says
Question: Did all the Muslim candidates receive a full body search and pat down before being ushered into the Vatican?
So much for trust!
Jesus said: ‘Be as wise as serpents.’
Oliver says
Great question.
probably only the Christians were patted down and/or searched. Otherwise, Islamphobic
mortimer says
Will the Grand Imam of Al Azhar wash the feet of Christians?
Don’t hold your breath.
gravenimage says
You are quite right–it would newver happen.
boakai ngomb says
it would never happen because such as the “Grand Imam” must portray the example of muhammad (lately contrived; full of lusts without restraint) and not show such symbolic kindness in an attitude of servitude. in this action Papa could be said to be portraying the Biblical Gospel to those of the mosque.
however, this occurred outside of a CHURCH in a nonChristian environment. publically. although there must have been some kind of liturgy, this was not worship
this was PR for the papacy, a necessary signaling (perhaps) to the powers to say enough already, to which Robert alluded:
“However, coming at a time when Muslim persecution of Christians is escalating worldwide, and when there is very serious concern about the Catholic Church’s apparent determination to accommodate Islamic supremacism at all costs, and not speak up for the persecuted Christians, this foot-washing can unfortunately be interpreted as meaning that the Church is surrendering and bowing down to its new Islamic overlords”
this was a sad event, i think. once, long ago one Papa sat upon a chair high above all others in the room, which was lit up by the sun (gleaming behind Papa) to proclaim supremacy and demand allegiance. quite a contrast, especially since the outstanding example of servitude is that of Jesus upon the cross … no feet washing there … and the disciple – SENT – served looking towards the Cross and not towards dirty feet.
boakai ngombu says
yup, it would never happen. the “Grand Imam” could not be so humble and kind, having to portray the image of muhammad (lately contrived; full of lusts and without restraint) only too likely to kill.
the “gospel” of islam is not that of the Bible, where the example of servitude and service is Jesus dying on the Cross. Certainly the ones SENT did not occupy themselves so publically with washing dirty feet; they “looked” to the Cross..
i think Robert suggests something more to the facts of the day:
“…However, coming at a time when Muslim persecution of Christians is escalating worldwide, and when there is very serious concern about the Catholic Church’s apparent determination to accommodate Islamic supremacism at all costs, and not speak up for the persecuted Christians, this foot-washing can unfortunately be interpreted as meaning that the Church is surrendering and bowing down to its new Islamic overlords. As Christians in the Middle East are being slaughtered on a massive scale by Muslims, this looks more like surrender and submission than charity….”
papa is saying: enough already
HANSEL says
I’m sorry but why can’t he wash the feet of the earliest Christians that have been displaced from Syria.
Why can’t he focus on being a Shepherd to his flock
the renegade says
Because he is busy apologising to the Muslims saying “i am sorry that we are all not willingly bowing down to demands of allahs servants and Muhammad’s slaves for all our heads to be chopped off by children who believe in the same god. I am sorry on behalf of all kufrs that we are not allowing you to freely kill us with the sword of islam that you weild to strike our necks at Allah’s and his demon servant Muhammad’s behest. i am sorry that not all of us were born to be such bigots and ignoramuses as all of the children of Allah and slaves who blindly follow their master Muhammad. I am sorry for Allah’s children who will one day stop taking pilgrimage to Mecca and Medina for it will completely destroyed by the Kufrs. Allahu Akbar.”
Walter Sieruk says
What fool statement ,even imply, let alone make to make that the God of the Bible and the god of the Koran are the same. For example, first and foremost the Koran teaches the in 112 about Allah that “He is god alone: God the eternal .He begetteth not… In great contrast the God of the Bible is vastly different ,the Bible teaches in John 3:16. “For God so loved the world, the He gave His only begotten Son…” Moreover in further contrast between the God of the Bible and god of the Koran. For the Koran teaches in 19:35. “It is not befitting to God that He should have a Son.” Again this is in strong contradiction to the Bible which teaches the God the Father does indeed have a Son. Who is Jesus. As seen in Matthew 3:16,16. John 3::16,16,36. Hebrews 1:6-8. First John 2:22,23. 4:14,15. 5:12,13,20.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Take a look at the photograph of this foot-washing display. What kind of voodoo wudu is this? How is a foot cleaned by pouring a few ounces of water over it? Have there been no developments in the technology of foot-washing in the last 2,000 years? Or would scrubbing with soap constitute the sin of “bida”? Instead, the pope should install the kind of footbaths used for public swimming pools, as is done in the most up-to-date mosques. That will not only efficiently clean the feet, but prevent athlete’s foot as well. Or is that too much of an innovation too?
https://philosophermouseofthehedge.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/img_3278.jpg
Arcesilaus says
The washing of the feet is much less efficient than attempts at cleaning feet with today’s technology, but it’s mostly a symbolic ceremony that rehearses an act Jesus did.
It’s not pragmatic and trying to compete with other hygienic sources, it’s a symbol and a tradition of the Church. Go to a spa if you really want to get clean.
Oliver says
I think mark was being sarcastic.
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Yeah, and the link shows that the Founder’s favorite kind of animals can, with the proper wudu, accompany their owners into the mosque. Muslims are modern, while the pope is following the outmoded practices of millennia ago.
Ed says
I can’t watch this.
And, why is he not wearing gloves?
Walter Sieruk says
First not only is ts the God of the Bible a different God then the god of Islam as just seen that god of Islam has no son and the God the Father who of the Bible does have a Son. As shown in Matthew 3:16,17. 17:15,16. John 3:16,16,36. Hebrews 1_6-8. First John 2:22,23. 4:14,15. 5:12,13. 20. There is something else the is outstanding which is that the god of Islam is a mean vicious god.For the Koran teaches in 57:22. that “No misfortune [disaster ] can happen on earth or in your soul but is recorded in a decree [the Koran] before [in eternity]We {Allah ] bring it into existence: that is truly easy for Allah.” In other words the god of Islam is so very cruel and malicious the its he fault the the spread of infectious disease and other awful plagues e come upon humankind as well as traffic wrecks and the will of the god of Islam is also then that some people become crime victims as well as other dreadful things. In great contrast the God of the Bible does not decree crime but teaches people to obey governmental laws of living good peaceful lawful lives.. As seen in Romans 13:1-4. Likewise,the same Bible verses then teach that traffic wreaks are not the decree by the God of the Bible but an outcome of people not obeying traffic laws set by the state government for safe driving. So that statement that Christians and Muslims believe in the same God is false.
Jaladhi says
What is Pope trying to prove by this act? Is this going to impress Muslims or they will continue murdering Christians as they done for centuries? This is totally senseless!!
Walter Sieruk says
How nonsensical to make the claim that Christians and Muslims both believe in the same God. For example the Koranic god, the god of Islam teaches that Allah inspired sin in humankind and created them sinners. As seen in the Koran in 91:,7,7 Also 4:88. 7:16-18. 9:51; 14:4. 16:93. 35:8. 57:22; 74:31. How terrible of that Islamic god to actually being the author of sin by making humans sinners and then damning them to the fires of hell for being sinners. . How unfair of him. Likewise crime that thugs commit really starts with Allah for he inspired the sinful nature in them.. In great contrast the God of the Bible create the first humans sinless and innocent .Nevertheless he gave them freewill . So they abused the freewill that the God of the Bible gave them and disobeyed Him than humans are now sinners. So the pope or any anyone who say the Christians and Muslims believe in the same God need to further study the Bible and then further study Islam
Champ says
True, Walter …
Question: “Are we all God’s children, or only Christians?”
Answer: The Bible is clear that all people are God’s creation (Colossians 1:16), and that God loves the entire world (John 3:16), but only those who are born again are children of God (John 1:12; 11:52; Romans 8:16; 1 John 3:1-10).
More here:
http://www.gotquestions.org/all-God-children.html
abad says
Pope Francis is a Liberal Parrot.
I do not believe for one second he has any real grasp of Islam. Neither do I believe he can even read Arabic. And I certainly do not believe he is an expert on the Quran.
The Pope is supposed to be an expert on Roman Catholic beliefs and doctrines – that which he is supposed to be infallible of when he speaks on those issues.
Anything else he speaks on – he is not infallible.
I am wise to Roman Catholic teachings – I was brought up and raised in that church.
Francis needs to get a clue or two because his credibility is going downhill very fast.
Michael Copeland says
Islamic State does not agree.
They demolished the tomb of Saint Elian because, explaining:
“It is dedicated to a God other than Allah”.
Oliver says
I believe that ISIS also destroyed the historic city of Nineveh (The city that Jonah was going to-possibly spelled wrong) about a year ago.
Marcel Bérubé says
They ask Francis to lick their slippers but he said , today was a special day . They could
have free ablutions too. So he did .
Well, there is a positiv side to this . The day the jihadists will come in Rome , get in
the Vatican , behead the pope and show it all over the town as they said they will do , it will
be less painful to me . Francis have already help them in their success. «Francis , thank you .
It’s time to retire now . Let a sane spirit take the place.»
gravenimage says
ISIS already have this planned:
“ISIS Plans to Behead Pope”
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/09/isis-plans-to-behead-pope-condemns-muslim-coconuts-at-popes-interfaith-service/
Gerald Mucci says
It appears that any schmuck picked up from a back ally would have better theology than the Pope.
mortimer says
Too true.
Pope Francis’s theology is so simple-minded, you would have to go to a BOWLING ALLEY to hear a more complicated thought.
How did the RCC choose such a non-theologian to teach theology?
Oliver says
Mortimer- years back, I occasionally went bowling, and to bowling alleys. (Only place to bowl). There were often very intelligent conversations ( not about bowling, but politics, religion, etc).
UNLESS YOU ARE REFERRING T THE INTELLIGENCE LEVEL OF THE PINS. ( Compared to francis). AND EVEN THEN, I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD APOLOGIZE TO THE PINS.
My views
Arcesilaus says
This pope’s right about one thing-the psychopathic narcissistic genocidal maniac in the Bible is the same psycho they call Allah. That is their Arabian name for him.
[youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IrtdLukslY&w=560&h=315%5D
It’s not just the ridiculous fictions that confirm me, it’s the barbaric things that those fictions make humans do.
We can expect little but more fear, superstition, and ignorance until we uncouple ourselves from primitive thinking.
mortimer says
Francis is a gullible Pollyanna.
Champ says
Jesus washed His disciples feet, and He then instructed His disciples to wash “one another’s feet.” Today, Christians are to also wash “one another’s feet”:
“Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another’s feet. I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you.” — John 13:14-15
What the Pope is doing, by washing their feet, is clearly NOT what Jesus meant by washing “one another’s fee”, since “one another” means: Christian to Christian–and not Christian to muslim. Therefore, the Pope is being disobedient to the Word. And this Pope has been disobedient to the Word of God *countless* times.
Essentially, this foot washing practice, by the Pope, is part and parcel of the Pope’s overall agenda of promoting evil “Chrislam”, and the Pope has the wrongheaded belief that ‘allah’ and the one true God are the same–but they are NOT!
https://youtu.be/k7R-IWXzgeo
Champ says
I wrote:
Today, Christians are to also wash “one another’s feet”
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I should clarify: Jesus wasn’t setting a church ordinance, here, or to institute a ceremony of literally washing one another’s feet. But that Christians are to wash one another’s feet by *serving* one another, in humility. Having someone wash your feet is a very humbling experiecne.
MIchael Poulin says
Also he is breaking his own canon laws when allowing non-males and non Christians at this ceremony. But lawlessness is an attribute of the devil no?
Champ says
Indeed, Michael ..”lawlessness is an attribute of the devil.” Hey things that make you go, hmm …
Question: “Who is the man of lawlessness in 2 Thessalonians 2:1–12?”
Answer: The man of lawlessness in 2 Thessalonians 2:1–12 is the Antichrist who will come on the world scene at the beginning of the Day of the Lord. This Day, sometimes called the “end times,” starts after the rapture of the church in 1 Thessalonians 4:13–18 (cf. 1 Thessalonians 5:1–11). It is good to note that the Day of the Lord is not a twenty-four-hour period of time; rather, it is an extended period of time that includes the seven-year tribulation, the return of Christ to put down all rebellion against Him, the 1,000-year reign of Christ on earth, the final defeat of Satan, and the Great White Throne Judgment.
More here:
http://www.gotquestions.org/man-of-lawlessness.html
Mary C says
Wow, “Chrislam” is a genius new word, in recognition of the conflation the Pope is committing. First we have the bringing together of foot washing (Christ did it for his disciples on the day before his passion) with foot kissing, which is not included in accounts of that day. Do we see foot kissing elsewhere in the Bible? Yes, we do, in Luke 7:36-50. Here is a very interesting (and probably common, although I don’t personally agree with it) exegesis of it: http://sovereigngrace.homestead.com/files/SermonKissingtheFeetofJesus.htm . A woman, a sinner (presumably a prostitute) kisses Jesus’ feet. The explanation is that the act is an acknowledgement of her own sinful state, and a kind of apology and begging for forgiveness, a recognition of her own sheer defectiveness in the face of true divinity. This servile excruciating awareness of one’s own blighted wrongness is a far cry from what is recounted of Christian mystic’s encounters with divinity! Read St. John of the Cross, for example.
The next thing I wonder is, since there isn’t much foot kissing in the Bible, is foot kissing more of a Muslim ritual? All I could find using Google is that foot kissing is more rare than hand kissing, but seems to be more common among Muslims than among Christians. It is an act of recognition of the superiority and power of the person who is having their foot kissed.
I agree with others elsewhere on this forum that the Pope is doing it for the well-being of the Vatican State first and foremost. The wolf is at the doorstep and the Vatican walls, although some of the highest and thickest in the world, are no match for truly determined terrorists with their bombs and automatic weapons. Yup, he really has gotten to a point of vulnerability where foot-kissing is called for. I really think he’s intending it as a gesture of submission. I also think he’s modeling for the rest of us what he thinks we need to do to keep the peace.
I also agree with others here that Vatican II in the late 1960’s has been the undoing of Catholicism in the modern era. I myself was devastated by the banishment of our ‘magical’ language Latin and along with it so very much ritual; I’ve been an unchurched Christian ever since. There was a decade of my life that I was devoted to reading the entire Collected Works of the person I consider to be the most brilliant psychoanalyst who ever lived and wrote: C.G. Jung. Jung believes that ritual is an essential human need, a hunger, of the psyche. He wondered how it was possible to be sane at all without it. I agree.
I think movies and sport have filled that void in Western culture. Ones that appeal to our baser instincts have pandered in a very evil way to this hunger for ritual. I especially decry violence when it is gratuitous; on the other hand, nowadays I love Dirty Harry! With regard to sexuality, my hope is for more depictions of ‘sacred sexuality.’ Initially I was alarmed by images of Hollywood’s elite women on the red carpet with only the sheerest coverings of body parts that should not be revealed publicly by a Western woman, unless she is trying to communicate pornographically. When it collided in my mind with the complete wrapping up of Islam’s women’s bodies with a blanket as a disapproval of female sexuality, I thought, “They’re making a political statement, one that I agree with!”
We wonder, “What is the appeal of Islam to disaffected youths in the West?” The explanation frequently given is the appeal of the violence. I think that’ part of it; I think the appeal of Islam’s rituals is another part of it. I read online a chilling story of a muddle-headed teenage American girl who allowed a much older Muslim man to woo her over the Internet into agreeing to be a ‘bride of Islam.’ The feeding of her hunger for ritual was no small part of the appeal of his ‘come on.’ I’m saying it is high time for Christianity to feed this legitimate hunger. But the Pope’s use of it with the foot kissing is perverse! What Judaism’s role in all this is/should be I don’t begin to know enough to say, except to assert it should have a role, because it is very much under attack right alongside, arguably in front of, Christianity. We need all four of the world’s great religions: Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism and Buddhism, to step up now.
Cecilia Ellis says
The Jewish feast of Purim commenced at sundown on Holy Thursday and ends at sunset on Good Friday. Yet, Judaism was not represented among the twelve whose feet were washed by Pope Francis. This omission takes on greater significance when one realizes that “the Jewish community in Rome is known to be the oldest Jewish community in Europe and also one the oldest continuous Jewish settlements in the world.” [1]
It should not have been so difficult for Pope Francis’ aides to locate a representative to join in the Holy Thursday liturgical celebration, as “the Italian chief rabbi officiates at the Great Synagogue of Rome and heads the country’s rabbinical council,” not to mention that there are at least thirteen synagogues nearby, many of their congregations comprised of Libyan Jews who also were migrants after the Six-Day War. [2]
Although not a High Holy Day, Purim is significant because it celebrates the Jewish deliverance from complete annihilation in one day, at the direction of a Persian king, by the efforts of Esther and Mordechai. The Book of Esther, which tells the story, also happens to be the one Biblical book that Hitler banned.
Ironically, on this day, Pope Francis chose to honor those who celebrate the killing of “the vilest of creatures [Christians and Jews]. His actions, as Robert Spencer has repeatedly stated, “have not stopped on Christian from being killed or one church from being burned.” (paraphrase)
This action serves a dubious agenda, not a liturgical protocol, rendering this show disgustingly disingenuous.
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[1] http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/vjw/Rome.html
[2] Ibid
Yankel says
How many Jews would pose for a picture while getting their feet washed by The Pope?
Salome says
It was done at an asylum seekers centre. Probably no Jews there, although there was one ‘Italian worker’. In any case, I expect that any self respecting Jew would have a decent sense of ‘our stuff’ and ‘their stuff’ and would be busy getting on with doing his ‘our stuff’. The best comment I saw on this episode was a suggestion that the pope should’ve been washing the feet of those injured in the Brussels bombings–if they still have any.
Cecilia Ellis says
“The best comment I saw on this episode was a suggestion that the pope should’ve been washing the feet of those injured in the Brussels bombings–if they still have any.”
Or the feet of the nun who survived the slaughter of four of nuns at an elderly home where Muslims were taken care of by the nuns . . .
Paul says
This Pope has been friendly to Jews. This strand of criticism is irrelevant to the issue at hand.
Cecilia Ellis says
Paul, though the Pope has been friendly to Jews, I seem to recall that he made reference to Abbas as “an angel of peace”. I most respectfully disagree with your premise that my addressing the notable absence of Jews is not relevant to the issue.
Jews have been slaughtered by those whose canonical texts are the same for some of those whose feet were being washed. Those texts mandate the killing of Jews and Christians, deny the divinity of Christ, deny the crucifixion and resurrection of Jesus, and relegate Jesus to a position inferior to that of Muhammad. Those texts refer to Jews as having been turned into “apes and pigs” by Allah. Jesus was a Jew.
The absence of a Jew from that highly televised foot washing sent a message to the world, one which will be applauded by many, including those who are assured of their supremacy in a book called the Qur’an.
mortimer says
Cecilia, Don’t you think the Pope is simply trying to tell Europeans not to be afraid of Islam?
I believe you are reading too much into his simple-minded message to reach out to refugees.
Francis hasn’t said anything yet that indicates anti-Semitism. He may be indifferent to the concerns of Jews.
Francis, however, is a moron about Islam (there, I said it). But he’s a cultural Marxist.
Cecilia Ellis says
Mortimer, I did not intend to convey the impression that I think the Pope is anti-Semitic. I agree with you that he is trying to send a message. Perhaps I poorly worded my comment. My only reason for posting my comment was that I noticed the absence of Jews as being refugees. They, like Muslims, have fled ISIS-controlled areas. Their plight, too, should be recognized.
I appreciate your comment. Stay well and safe. ?
Oliver says
i would say that his calling Abbas ” AN ANGEL OF PEACE” IS ANTI-SEMITIC. Abbas has said that a palestinian State would be Jew Free.
But when jews call for israel to be Muslim free–they are called bigots by the elitist assholes. (My view of them). With no common sense; live in ivory towers, and have security guards.
Champ ✞ says
Great comment, Cecilia! 🙂
And this Purim we just had another blood moon and solar eclipse:
http://biblepropheciesfulfilled.blogspot.com/2016/03/another-blood-moon-total-lunar-eclipse.html
Cecilia, as a Christian, you may also find the above information quite interesting, too!
Cecilia Ellis says
Thanks, Champ, for your kind reply and the link. I appreciate the fact that others might not see the relevance of including Jews in this discussion, but their absence from this diverse group of foot-washees struck me as notable. After all, there are Jewish “refugees” who have managed to escape the ISIS area of destruction. There are many in Rome who even survived the death camps. If the purpose of the Pope was to demonstrate the landscape of God’s love for all, then inclusion of at least one Jew would have been appropriate. The simultaneous celebration of Purim and the Holy Thursday liturgical celebration would have been the perfect time for the Pope to send a message to the world that not just Muslims and Christians are refugees from the current violence (slaughter) occurring in the Middle East, Asia, Europe, and elsewhere.
Jesus washed the feet of His disciples, those who followed Him, for the specific purpose of demonstrating that they should not argue about or seek a higher position. He did not wash the feet of Roman guards . . . He washed the feet of those whom He chose to follow Him. And, yes, He washed the feet of Judas before Judas completed his act of betrayal. Judas could have changed his mind, but did not. Jesus washed the feet of Jews. For that reason, I found my addressing this issue to be most relevant. I appreciate, therefore, your most generous comment.
Happy Easter to you and yours.
Champ ✿ says
Thank you, Cecilia, and Happy Easter to you and yours! 🙂
Oliver says
I am surprised that he didn’t, at the same time, kiss their butt holes-openly.
He seems to be doing it via his actions.
and quoting: What about Jews?
Jesus was a Jew. So, why did this creep-I mean pope- leave out the term Jews? (Let alone not offering to wash the feel of a Jew).
is it because he feels that few of them are the type of people that he protected back in South America? (The child molesters). While Muslims are. (Child molesters).
Champ says
I am surprised that he didn’t, at the same time, kiss their butt holes-openly.
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I made the mistake of reading your comment while enjoying an afternoon snack …
😀
Oliver says
Sorry; I also like snacks; not my intention to not enjoy one (or more).
Custos Custodum says
The Obama/Merkel/Soros/Francis etc. cabal is now desperate to complete its work in creating irreversible demographic facts on the ground – faits accomplis as a foundation for a totalitarian Europe with a Muslim invader class. Think Norman England after 1066.
After initial successes including the importation of several million “migrants” from assorted Muslim countries, the priority now is gain a little more time before Europe fully awakens and the curtain comes down. This means pulling out all the stops on the propaganda and censorship fronts, long-term credibility be damned.
Ginger says
Francis seems to think he’s as all-wise and all-knowing as God. From the beginning he’s spent his short tenure in the Vatican attempting to dismantle more than 2000 years of obedience to Christ’s teaching because he knows better. He is nothing but hubris – and photo opportunities to please the world – while lambasting genuinely devout Catholics. However, there are signs that the world is getting bored with him and media coverage is nothing like what it was. That is what will hurt him most and will be his just deserts.
Rolf Wittwer says
What a submissive behaviour of such a powerful man!?
Is he acting also in the name of all those with fake identity, passports, names and those thousands coming only on criminal intentions? Only guys again?
Oliver says
Rolf– A question for you.
Do you think all are potential rapists? (I, personally do); or might some be coming for the animals that don’t live in their home areas, and gay friendships.?
Personally, I hope that all of these ” refugees” commit suicide- and if they do it with suicide vests-target other Muslims only.
abad says
Maybe Francis worships Allah but I do not.
My Lord’s name is Jesus Christ.
And I know good and well that Muslims do NOT worship Jesus Christ nor accept Him as their Lord and Savior.
Angemon says
Then the woman would be raped, because she’s a whore who showed too much flesh and therefore, since muslim men aren’t responsible for their actions, brought it on herself, and stoned to death, because she had sex outside marriage.
Daniel Triplett says
Exactly. The Muslims are full-throttle crazy.
The fall of Western Civilization is getting hard to watch.
We’re in really deep trouble if Hillary gets elected. The World is starving for aggressive American leadership to stop the threat.
Oliver says
Daniel-if the world is starving for aggressive American leadership, WHY THE HELL ARE THEY ELECTING weepy nellies? The British had no choice- the Labour candidate was/is even more of a buffoon then Cameron. The election before this (not sure if the same labour leader) was also pretty bad (as per acquaintances of mine who are citizens of ONCE GREAT BRITAIN.)
But Francee? Germany? Sweden (whose Foreign Minister, after the Paris attacks, with a straight face, said it was ISRAEL’S FAULT); etc.
They have to get their own act together-for once.
Daniel Triplett says
You got that right Oliver. The situation is bleek and frightening.
I’m hoping Trump will bring the kind of leadership and strength we need.
John says
If you’re a Freemason he’ll excommunicate you. But if you lash women and behead folk, he’ll wash your feet.
abad says
That’s about the size of it.
somehistory says
Does this guy even have a Bible? Is he even able to read? If so, he has no understanding of it, or he is afraid of being killed by the adherents of islam, or he is attempting to be pious in order to *shame* Christians who wish to continue living in this world without giving in to islam’s threats.
Jesus washed the feet of His disciples…He did not go about washing the feet of those who wished, and had even expressed the intent, to kill Him.
Christ washed the feet of those He had chosen to “have a share with (Him).”
He washed their feet as an example for them to follow,; they were to wash the feet of one another.
This pope is washing the feet of people who would gladly put a sword to his throat and may do so before it is all over. They do not worship the True God and have no appreciation for the teachings and example of Christ. How many of them have offered to wash his feet?
Kepha says
I do not know everything that the Pope said or did in this ritual.
However, Jesus washed his disciples’ feet at the Last Supper (Jn. 17), which, I suppose, the Pope is commemorating. It is a lesson that the Lord of Glory (God the Word), was found in human form, humbling himself and taking the form of a sevant for the sake of our salvation (see Philippians 2). Paul’s confession in Philippians 2 and John 17, with their clear parallels of Jesus’ humility and servant role are reasons why I believe that the New Testament belongs together, and is not a mere mishmash thrown together by powerful ecclesiastics (and why I believe that the NT long predates a time when ecclesiastics could possibly be powerful, save spiritually and morally.
I pray that some of these migrants may see this, consider the prejudices about Christians and Christianity in which they were raised, and end up being called to the Christ of the Old and New Testaments.
I write this as someone who is neither a Roman Catholic nor a “foot-washin'” Baptist. I also find much to dislike in Pope Francis, and suspect him of being a closet liberation theologian (Marxist in Christian clothing), which is something I do not like. However, I understand why some engage in foot washing, and respect them for it, even if I understand Jesus’ act in John 17 to be an object lesson rather than a commandment or sacrament, and that the humility he enjoins can be imitated in a number of other ways as well (although if we lived in a dry, dusty climate among sandal-wearers, maybe literally washing the feet of dinner guests would be appropriate). I also suspect that perhaps this particular group of migrants may have been some who were open-minded enough themselves to meet the Pope.
Further, I’m not going to throw bricks at the Neturei Karta. They believe that the Jewish Commonwealth cannot be restored by any save M’Shiach; and while I firmly believe M’chiach has come (Jesus Christ), I can still respect an opinion with which I disagree.
jewdog says
Stop picking on the Pope – he’s just doing his job. If you want more examples of relative passivity in the face of Islamization, there are plenty of examples among Jewish and Protestant clergy. I know everybody hates me for pointing this out, but Judeo-Christian ethics is too nice to deal effectively with Islam. That may be why many people subconsciously appreciate harsh leaders like Trump and Putin.
Kepha says
Indeed, jewdog, I agree with your assessment 100%
Daniel Triplett says
Indeed.
I’ve been pushing for a Trump – Putin Alliance for a while. Those are the two chess pieces on the board now best suited for the task.
Oliver says
I once had a client 9he retired) who was a devout Christian. And very Pro-Israel, Pro-Jewish. he had ONE PROBLEM WITH PURIM.
On Purim, the Jews of Persia (now Iran) killed 75,000 persians. his problem- the Jews don’t do this EVERY YEAR-and not even accounting for population growth-although he would like to see that also. Would improve the gene pool.
gravenimage says
Pope Francis washes feet of Muslim migrants, says we’re all “children of the same God”
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Christians may see this as humility–Muslims see it as nothing but our humiliation.
Custos Custodum says
Precisely!
In fact, EVERYTHING is about pride and humiliation to Muslims, at least when dealing with non-Muslims. As has been observed many times, Muslims live in a “shame society.”
Many Western commentators fail to keep in mind and think through the consequences of this simple fact.
Michael F Poulin says
There is a tiny remnant in the Catholic Church who still hold the Catholic faith and reject the false teachings and actions of this man. Just about everything that comes out of his mouth is heretical and foolish. He is the result of what we call the Modernist heresy, which came to fruition at Vatican II in the 1960’s and has almost destroyed the Catholic Church. Vatican II was where they got the “we all worship the same God” crap.
This pope accepted a blasphemous crucifix where the cross was made in the symbol of a hammer and sickle, a symbol of atheistic communism, an ideology that has been responsible for the murder of millions of people. The man is an idiot and a fool, and ignorant of the Catholic faith, which he has actively sought to destroy.
Oliver says
When i was in college (Catholic, Jesuit University) during Vatican 2–IT WAS EXPRESSLY TOLD THAT ECUMENCIALISM AND ONE G-D IS ONLY FOR CATHOLICS AND OTHER CHRISTIANS.
JEWS; HINDUS; BUDDHISTS; MUSLIMS; ETC ARE EXCLUDED.
Don’t blame this anal pore’s actions on Vatican 2. He is just an anal pore.
Mo says
“we’re all “children of the same God” ”
Has this man ever once cracked open at least the Bible, if not the Quran as well? The Bible teaches we BECOME children of God, through faith in Christ. (1 John 3:1)
1 John 2:22-24
“Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son. No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also. ”
1 John 5:10-12
“Whoever believes in the Son of God has the testimony in himself. Whoever does not believe God has made him a liar, because he has not believed in the testimony that God has borne concerning his Son. And this is the testimony, that God gave us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.”
How does any of this match with the Quranic passages listed, which EXPLICITLY deny Christ’s deity, crucifixion, and (by extension) resurrection?
What nonsense. It’s astounding to me how people could have access to all the knowledge they could ever need, right at their fingertips, and yet they are still this ignorant about such basic things.
That goes double for those who claim to be leaders of any kind. There is no excuse for it!
sham says
#Christ’s deity, crucifixion, and (by extension) resurrection ARE THE CREATION OF NEO SATANS ,AFTER THE DEATH OF JESUS……….
9:31. They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allâh (by obeying them in things which they made lawful or unlawful according to their own desires without being ordered by Allâh), and (they also took as their Lord) Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), while they (Jews and Christians) were commanded [in the Taurât (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)) to worship none but One Ilâh (God – Allâh) Lâ ilâha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He). Praise and glory be to Him, (far above is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him).”
3: 78. And verily, among them is a party who distort the Book with their tongues (as they read), so that you may think it is from the Book, but it is not from the Book, and they say: “This is from Allâh,” but it is not from Allâh; and they speak a lie against Allâh while they know it.
5: 64. The Jews say: “Allâh’s Hand is tied up (i.e. He does not give and spend of His Bounty).” Be their hands tied up and be they accursed for what they uttered. Nay, both His Hands are widely outstretched. He spends (of His Bounty) as He wills. Verily, the Revelation that has come to you from Allâh increases in most of them their obstinate rebellion and disbelief. We have put enmity and hatred amongst them till the Day of Resurrection. Every time they kindled the fire of war, Allâh extinguished it; and they (ever) strive to make mischief on earth. And Allâh does not like the Mufsidûn (mischief-makers).
ISLAM LEADS THE DEVIATED BIRDS TO THEIR RIGHT PATH:
3:19. Truly, the religion with Allâh is Islâm. Those who were given the Scripture (Jews and Christians) did not differ except, out of mutual jealousy, after knowledge had come to them. And whoever disbelieves in the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, signs, revelations, etc.) of Allâh, then surely, Allâh is Swift in calling to account.
5: 69. Surely, those who believe (in the Oneness of Allah, in His Messenger Muhammad SAW and all that was revealed to him from Allah), those who are the Jews and the Sabians and the Christians, – whosoever believed in Allah and the Last Day, and worked righteousness, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve.
2: 62. Verily! Those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day and do righteous good deeds shall have their reward with their Lord, on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve .
Kepha says
I cannot accept the Qur’an as an authority for anything about Jesus Christ. In contrast with the Gospels, which were written during the generation that knew Jesus personally and by men who had received his commission, the Qur’an was written hundreds of years later. Further, the Sura Al-Imran clearly confuses Mary (Miriam in Hebrew) with Miriam, sister of Moses. If all there was about Mary being “Sister of Aaron” was in Sura 19, then I could accept that “Sister of Aaron” is merely a euphemism for “Righteous Woman”. But al-Imran has Amram (Imran) putting the young Mary mother of Jesus in the care of Zachariah father of John the Baptist, so it is clear that Muhammad garbled everything, being unaware of the gap of 1400+ years between Aaron and Moses on one hand and Jesus on the other. I’m sure that neither God nor the Angel Gabrial would be such fools.
Jesus said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man comes to the Father but by me” (Jn. 14:6) and “Before Abraham was, I am” (Jn,. 8:58). Nobody would have the right to say such things were he not God Incarnate.
Jesus, body and soul, sits in Heaven ruling all things (Mt. 28; Rev. 1). Muhammad lies in a grave in Medina awaiting the resurrection of the just and unjust alike, as well as the judgment we all must face, when Jesus returns.
Champ says
Hear, hear, Kepha.
Oliver says
what the f are you talking about, sham?
(Actually, that name probably fits you-)
Lelia says
What a fool! No, Mr. Pope, we are not all children of the same god. We are all creations of the same God, but only those who claim Jesus as Savior are God’s children. Jews and Christians worship the same God, but Muslims worship Satan.
Lawrence says
No surprise, just recently he met with and gushed all over Iran’s Rouhani, praising Islam and Christianity as having “shared values”. So more of the same.
sham says
TODAY NO CHRISTIANITY IN WESTERN WORLD,CHRISTIANITY COMPLETELY FAILED THE PRACTICAL LIFE OF FAMILY,NOW SOME ATHEIST,BILLIONAIRE,FEMINIST,HUMANIST MAKED WESTERN WORLD AN HELL:CRIME STATISTICS SAYS
Total crimes: Countries Compared
1 United States 11.88 million
2 United Kingdom 6.52 million
3 Germany 6.51 million
4 France 3.77 million
5 Russia 2.95 million
6 Japan 2.85 million
nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Crime/Total-crimes
WORLD MOST LEADING RAPEST COUNTRY:
Rank Countries Amount
1 Lesotho 0.844 per 1,000 people
2 New Zealand 0.315
3 Belgium 0.299
4 Iceland 0.286
5 Norway 0.203
6 Israel 0.166 nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita
UN Rape Statistics:
RANK
1 United States of America 93883
2 Australia 18237
3 United Kingdom 13272
4 France 10408
5 Germany 8766
6 Russian Federation 8185
wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape_statistics
Divorce rate (most recent) by country
Rank Countries Amount
#1 United States: 4.95 per 1,000 people
#2 Puerto Rico: 4.47
#3 Russia: 3.36
#4 United Kingdom: 3.08
#5 Denmark: 2.81
nationmaster.com/graph/peo_div_rat-people-divorce-rate
MR.ROBERT SPENCER AND GANGS PLZ GO TO U’R STREET AND ADVICE THEM MORALITY,PEACE,KINDNESS AND ALL GOOD THINGS(OH! ONE MINUETS) FIRST U LEARN THESE ALL THINGS FROM ISLAMIC SCRIPTURES ,THEN COME TO HERE FRIGHT WITH FOOLISHNESS……..
ISLAM IS THE FINAL DESTINATION OF ALL MANKIND WHO SEEK ETERNAL SALVATION HERE AND HEREAFTER…………
Muslim :: Book 9 : Hadith 3506
God did not send me to be harsh, or cause harm, but He has sent me to teach and make things easy.
Westman says
Least amount of personal freedom:
Muslim and Communist countries.
Who is raping in Sweden and Denmark:
Muslims.
You’re not very bright, Sham. Your Allah is a dictator and under a dictator no true judgement can be made because men are not free to act. In secular and democratic countries, we have higher crime rates and also greater accomplishments because people are free to contribute or dissipate their energy and time. Then a judgement can be just because men chose their actions. Extremely low crime rates are a sign of tyranny, not freedom. North Korea has a lower crime rate than Muslim countries – why don’t you go there?
Islam is destined for the scrap heap of history because it fails to allow people to rise to their full potential. You are already 800 years behind the free West, using products, including your phone and computer, that your Umma was not able to create. The brightest of your society left long ago in a brain drain to the West that has exacerbated the paucity of scientific and engineering capability of muslim countries.
When there is mass migration from the West to Muslim countries you may speak with authority about the greatness of Islam. Currently Islam is an abject failure and is producing nothing via intellect and discovery that the world wants. You’re stuck in the 7th century and, without oil, your only way out is to leave Islam or migrate to the West.
Dream on, Sham. We’re never coming to Islam unless forced and then it will be with a modern army. You might as well be worshipping Zeus. Watch the eventual reaction in Europe to see what freedom means to us.
mortimer says
Agree with Westman. We have not begun to fight Islam. We are not angry yet, but we will be.
When the West becomes angry about Islamic terrorism, it will be Muslims’ biggest mistake in Islamic history.
If Muslims do not cease and desist now, they will awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve. When that happens Islam, the Koran, the hadiths, Mecca and Medina will cease to exist. Nothing of them will be left.
Daniel Triplett says
We’d best get angry and awaken soon.
The Iranians are unobstructed with their nuke program. They’re taking great delight in our distraction with ISIS, while they complete assembly of their nuke-armed ICBMs.
Muslims Worldwide, Iran included, are all well aware this is Caliph Obama’s last year in office. I predict Iran will initiate a nuke exchange with someone before he leaves the White House.
If Obama refuses to retaliate with nukes after an Iranian nuke strike on America, perhaps Americans will be angry and scared enough to storm the WH and remove him. Short of that, any other Iranian nuke attacks will be followed by yawns and another round of golf by our CINC.
Daniel Triplett says
Great post Brother.
sham says
RAPING GIRLS NOT CHARACTER FOR US :
24: 19. Verily, those who like that (the crime of) illegal sexual intercourse should be propagated among those who believe, they will have a painful torment in this world and in the Hereafter. And Allâh knows and you know not.
4:16 And the two persons (man and woman) among you who commit illegal sexual intercourse, punish them both. And if they repent (promise Allâh that they will never repeat, i.e. commit illegal sexual intercourse and other similar sins) and do righteous good deeds, leave them alone. Surely, Allâh is Ever the One Who accepts repentance, (and He is) Most Merciful.
5:5. ………….not committing illegal sexual intercourse, nor taking them as girl-friends. And whosoever disbelieves in the Oneness of Allâh and in all the other Articles of Faith [i.e. His (Allâh’s), Angels, His Holy Books, His Messengers, the Day of Resurrection and Al¬Qadar (Divine Preordainments)], then fruitless is his work, and in the Hereafter he will be among the losers.
17: 32. And come not near to the unlawful sexual intercourse. Verily, it is a Fâhishah [i.e. anything that transgresses its limits (a great sin)], and an evil way (that leads one to Hell unless Allâh forgives him).
70: 29. And those who guard their chastity (i.e. private parts from illegal sexual acts) .
30. Except with their wives and the (women slaves and captives) whom their right hands possess, for (then) they are not to be blamed,
31. But whosoever seeks beyond that, then it is those who are trespassers.
# there is mass migration from the West to Muslim countries …..
THAT SITUATION BEGIN FROM US/UK FOR THEIR ” WAR FOR OIL ” ,WINDROW THE GOVT ,NATURALLY DIFFERENT PEOPLE START VIOLENCE,……
#Umma was not able to create. The brightest of your society …..
BROTHER U DON’T KNOW THE REAL HISTORY,U R BRAIN DEAD FOOL…..AT LEAST STUDY BASICS OF ISLAMIC SCIENCE(JUST SOME EXAMPLE wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_science_and_engineering_in_the_Islamic_world),300 OF BRANCH SCIENCE BEGGING ISLAMIC WORLD ,ITS NOT MY WORLD TODAY ITS AGREED U’R PEOPLE…….
AND THINK ABOUT WHERE R UR PEOPLE THOSE PERIOD ,HISTORY CALLED THEM ” B BARBARIANS ”
#Currently Islam is an abject failure and is producing nothing via intellect……..
NO FURTHER DETAILS ,WHAT WAS THE PRESENT RELIGIOUS CONVERSION RATE ?
Westman says
Gosh Sham,
I didn’t realize all those doctors and engineers who came to the West, OVER THE LAST 50 YEARS, to improve their lives, didn’t really want to come. I’ve personally used their services and worked with them. They seem quite content. Former and lapsed Muslims are working wonders in the US health care industry and Silicon Valley – now they are free of Islamic society.
And those current “refugees”, 80% able-bodied men, have chosen not to fight to retain their country. That means THEY don’t even think Muslim countries are worth saving and are looking for something better.
CONVERSION RATE?
Those converts to Islam can’t begin to keep up with the secularization of the world. Christians, Jews, Agnostics, and Atheists are all able to work together to resist Islamic Dawa and Jihad. You might have noticed that It’s not the Orthodox Jews who defend Israel, it is the citizens who love liberty as much as life.
We, in the West, don’t divide the world into believer and non-believer. We divide the world into the free and the not free. We have muzzled our Kings, discarded slavery, and taken on democracy – and we’re never going back to be anyone’s subject or slave. You, Sham, are a slave to the fictitious Allah which makes you a slave to the whims of Islamic Clerics.
Islam is only 20% of humanity and can only retain its members by making Muslims of children and having severe punishment and persecution for leaving. That is hardly a point of pride. 66% of the world is Democratic and over 70% has more freedom than Islam offers.
Champ says
“shams” comments are a convoluted MESS!
Hope says
sham, I can’t wait to see Donald Trump elected president, can you?
Oliver says
Westman, I agree with most of your post. However, there are, IN ISRAEL, MANY RELIGIOUS JEWS IN THE IDF. A friend of mine, who has a daughter who is quite religious, served her time in the IDF- just not in a mixed (men and women) company. (No, she is not a lesbian, either, and married a year or so after her time int he military). Also, many of the religious Jews serve as medics, etc. And, i met one who is a MEDIC AND SNIPER. (hell of a combination). (He has done both-killed Muslims and saved lives).
Westman says
Oliver, you may have misread my my statement indicating that Orthdox Jews, meaning the Haredim are largely defended by the other men of the country, including of course, other religious Jews.
I’m assuming that you are aware the Haredim resisted service in the IDF until a draft law was passed in 2014 that required service. Unfortunately, that law was repealed in 2015: “Until recently, Liwer’s choice of Torah study over military service would have exposed him, at least in principle, to the threat of a jail sentence. But no longer. In late April, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu effectively reversed a law to impose jail time on members of the ultra-Orthodox, or Haredi community who dodge the draft.”
Read more: http://forward.com/news/israel/307624/orthodox-draft-laws/#ixzz445KcS4rz
As you can read, The Haredim are no longer required to carry their share of defense and many do not even pay taxes. There is a saying in Israel, “One third of the population does the work, one third pays the taxes, and one third defends the country; and they are all the same third.” At the founding of Israel it was agreed that the Haredim would carry into and protect the religion for the future, starting with just a few hundred men. That has grown exponentially until it impacts the economy of Israel and its defense; culminating in the 2014 draft law.
I don’t doubt that you may have uber-orthodox friends in the IDF but they are the exception, in numbers far below their representation in the society.
BC says
Granted you may not be fully literate in English, that is the most biased and dishonest presentation of statistics I have ever seen, Not to mention being uninterpretible. You do not mention marital rape in Islam which is sanctioned by clerics. That is not surprising as the statistics are not published as only women complain about it anyway. You do not mention the systematic rape and sexual slavery of women and young girls by IS either.
As for divorce there are laws permitting divorce in Western countries developed because of our superior civilisation.. In Islam a man can divorce his wife and even take additional wives but a wife cannot divorce a husband even if he treats her badly and inflicts phyisical harm. She also has to submit to his sexual demands and of course her sexual feelings have been destroyed by FGM. Do you think there would be no divorces in Islam if it was made easy?
Kepha says
Watch it when you mention rape stastistics. In many Western countries, Muslim immigrants are the worst offenders when it comes to committing rape–probably because Islam teaches utter disrespect for woman. You are hearing that criticism of Islam from a man who loathes the feminist movement. It is simply that God commanded from Sinai that we should honor our fathers AND our mothers (Ex. 20; Dt. 5); while both the apostles Peter and Paul command us to love and live considerately with our wives (of whom we have only one, until death parts us). Islam, as Mustafa Kemal Ataturk once said, is the religion of an immoral Arab Sheikh.
Yankel says
Muhammad was a liar and the father of lies and a murderer from the beginning.
MUHAMMAD = MURDERER
ISLAM = DEATH
TH says
Pope Francis, instead of going to some prison or refugee center on Holy Thursday, according to what his misison requires, should have been celebrating the Mass at his Cathedral, St. John Latern in Rome as Holy Thursday is the conmemoration of Jesus´s Last Supper and his institution of the Eucharist. He is converting the liturgy into a kind of means for propaganda, a pedagogica instrument, when it should be an act of worship of God.
Besides, most of the supposed refugees are not refugees at all but economic migrants and they are not interested in staying in Italy as Italy doesn’t offer them the freebees which places like Germany and Sweeden do. I saw a video on Youtube of an African guy who had gone to give European countries with his family of five (it didn’t say whether it was the only family he had) and ended up in Sweeden becuase they offered him a bigger house there than in the other four countries. He didn’t proceed from any country at war, as there are no such wars in Africa at present. t
mortimer says
Pope Francis is a cultural Marxist, unfortunately, a politician more than a theologian.
Stewart Davies says
Islam means “submission”. So, how do these muslims whose feet the Vicar of Christ symbolically washes interpret this action? While I don’t doubt for one second that at least some of those who were invited to be involved in this ritual of the washing of the feet were deeply moved by the experience, we can be sure that news footage of this was shown right around the Islamic world. And how is it interpreted. As “CHRISTIAN SUBMISSION”. As our capitulation to “god’s chosen ones”. I am increasingly disaffected by this feminised, emasculated, limp-wristed Church. All that was lacking was another pathetic, grovelling apology for the Crusades. Maybe that will come next week?
And while he condemns the latest muslim terrorist outrage, (without identifying the perpetrators), he admonished the nations of Europe to do more to “open our arms” to the “refugees”. Yes, that’s correct. To warmly embrace as our brothers these depraved, barbaric and, in many instances, seemingly subhuman specimens whose sole reason for occupying the nations of Western Europe is conquest in the name of their god allah, ( a pagan Mesopotamian minor deity and the god of violence and revolution), and the imposition of Sharia Law. This is not supposition or “conspiracy theory”. It’s being openly declared by these degenerate muslim scumbags whom Pope Francis seems to think are so wonderful. As for “opening our arms”; isn’t that just another gesture of submission?
mortimer says
Mickey wrote: “can be interpreted as meaning that the Church is surrendering” (Yes, it will be misinterpreted by Muslims as surrender because Muslims, and you too, haven’t read John 13:8.)
Mickey wrote: “temporary Popish foot fetish” (No, Mickey, it’s an established tradition of imitating Jesus on his last night. The ceremony shows by example that Christians should be the humble servants of all.)
You have revealed your limited religious knowledge, my friend.
mortimer says
Pope Francis has not read Islam’s foundational source texts, and yet, he is misrepresenting himself as an expert on Islam. It is a sin of pride, presumption and deceit.
In fact, Francis knows practically nothing about Islam. He is a puffed-up Pollyanna, stubbornly blind and wilfully unteachable. He is flaunting his moral superiority in the view that more knowledgeable people than he are exaggerating and lying about Islamic supremacism.
Dr. Gonzalo. de Porras says
Magisterio Universal, es decir de FE, de La Iglesia Católica sobre “Legítima Defensa” : ver “EVANGELIUM VITAE” , artículo 55 del Papa Juan Pablo II. Lo pueden encontrar en la Red con facilidad
sidney penny says
Who were these Muslims and Hindus and Protestants who lowered and demeaned themselves by having their feet washed by the pope.Where is their self-respect?
Yes, were the Jews, Buddhists and Sikhs not asked? They’re not children of the same God?or did they preferred not to demean and lower themselves?
h says
A very short compilation of this pope’s dhimmitude!!
(BTW where are his ‘advisers’? (all dhimmis as well??)
http://vaticaninsider.lastampa.it/en/news/detail/articolo/papa-pope-el-papa-27115/
Muslims are “our brothers” and Christians must cultivate “mutual respect” with them. These were the words of Pope Francis yesterday during the Angelus, a message which could signal a turnaround in the relationship between the Catholic Church and Islam. This changing tide can even be seen in the words used in addressing Muslims. This is the first Pope to have referred to Muslims in such direct and explicit terms as “our brothers”. This would have been practically unthinkable even up until the recent past.
What an idiot!!
http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2015/12/25/pope-francis-to-followers-koran-and-holy-bible-are-the-same-2/
a smiling Pope Francis was quoted telling the Vatican’s guests that the Koran, and the spiritual teachings contained therein, are just as valid as the Holy Bible.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2014/12/pope-says-islam-is-religion-of-peace-then-begs-muslims-to-condemn-violence
religion of peace, one which is compatible with respect for human rights and peaceful coexistence,” says the Pope. Then he calls on Muslims to push a “more authentic image of Islam, as so many of them desire.” Has he ever wondered how this version of Islam that he assumes to be inauthentic has become so widespread and so powerful as to displace millions of Christians from the Middle East?
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/jun/9/vatican-makes-history-pope-allows-islamic-prayers-/
Vatican makes history: Pope allows Islamic prayers, Koran readings
http://www.novusordowatch.org/wire/muslim-peace-prayer-infidel.htm
Muslim Imam at Vatican’s Prayer for Peace Event prayed for “Victory over the Infidels”!
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/01/pope-to-refugees-muslims-can-expel-the-illness-within-our-hearts-with-quran
“Francis to refugees: Christian or Muslim, the faith your parents instilled in you will help you move on,”
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/dec/28/spain.catholicism
Pope asked to let Muslims pray in cathedral
http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2016/02/20/the-pope-just-said-proudly-that-muslim-refugees-are-a-miracle-seed-for-a-barren-europe-do-you-agree/
The Pope just said proudly that muslim refugees are a “MIRACLE SEED” for a barren Europe…do you agree?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2016/01/pope-francis-meets-irans-president-to-boost-nuke-deal-mideast-peace
“If we want peace in the Middle East, Iran and Iranian Islam have a vital role to play,” said the Rev. Bernardo Cervellera. Good to see the Pope giving his blessing to a rogue regime with genocidal aspirations. It is a wise move and perfectly in line with the Melkite Greek Catholic Patriarch’s robust defense of Islam in the face of Muslim persecution of Christians. Cowardice, appeasement and fear are the hallmarks of the contemporary Catholic Church, and apparently requirements for the clergy. Jump on board and cower.
Pussonbed says
“Muslims are our brothers” ? Maybe the Pope should try replacing “Muslims” with “Nazis” – Hitler was as a member of the human race, just as Muslims are; and he was baptised as a Catholic, which they are not. Would Francis wash the feet of Hitler, and of Catholics in the Nazi Party ? If not – why not ? I ask this as a Catholic, BTW.
The followers of the false prophet and antiChrist Mohammed are not our brothers – Islamofascists are murderers of those who *are* our brothers; either fellow-Catholics, or at least members of other Christian bodies. This Pope loves his enemies so well, like many other clergy of that sort, that he loves his brothers too little. He reminds me of bishops who were so kind-hearted to the Communist persecutors and torturers of Christians, that they sometimes denied that these very Communists were persecuting Christians for whom these Christian bishops should have spoken up. Francis seems to practice this same perverted charity, that leaves Christians to perish, and comforts their enemies. Christ never commanded that.
Peter says
If you look past all the bling and blurb, the Pope is merely the current CEO of an efficient and very profitable business. It is the oldest business still operating after 19 centuries (note: it WAS NOT founded in the year ‘0’). Despite protestations to the contrary, they do actually move with the times. They follow the money – always – and their income always exceeds their outgoings.
Bridget Ames says
The man is clearly out of touch with reality. He does not understand that the washing of feet is part of the representation and birth of Holy Orders, so should only be a baptized male. He washed women’s and non-catholic’s previous years, missing the understanding again for the institution of Holy Orders. He has become apart of the pan-theistic collective and thinks the old heresy that all religions are the same. The other point of reality he is missing is that refugees do not think like him, it is not a you be nice to them if they be nice to us mentality. He sees them as victims when in reality they are aggressors and the true victims are those who try their best to be faithful to the church magistrate not only the current one but the historical which in our modern day is not quite matching up. Even when there were immoral men who lived scandalous life style were pope, they never did anything to hurt the faith, but sadly I can not say that is the same outcome, many of his impetuous actions are dangerous. And the faithful are left doing proverbial gymnastics in order to explain what he “really” means. That being said Please pray for the Pope, and that God will straighten out what damage has been caused.
TheBuffster says
“All of us together, Muslims, Hindus, Catholics, Copts, Evangelical [Protestants] brothers and sisters – children of the same God…”
Wait a minute here. Isn’t it shirk to refer to human beings as “children of God” (or Allah)? Muslims refer to themselves as *slaves* of Allah. Their relationship to Allah is not so cozy and familiar as the Christian/Jewish relationship to God.
The Pope should be more culturally sensitive!
Dean says
The Pope is an educated man who surely knows that fundamental Muslims do not agree with the one God baloney. When I saw this on TV, I wondered to myself if even as they are slicing off his head will he still retain the fantasy that in the end his acts of kindness and tolerance will still succeed in changing the world. My biggest problem with his foolishness is whether he even considers that his duplicity disarms his flock that he should be warning.
James says
First and foremost, Muslim’s do NOT worship the same God that Christians or Jews do. I am Catholic and a convert to the one and true faith. I must often disagree with his Holiness on his comments toward Islam and Muslims. Christians worship a “Triune” God, The Holy Trinity consisting of The Father, The Son and The Holy Ghost. Muslims automatically deny the Holy Trinity- red flag number one, and deny the divinity of Jesus, thus denying he is the son of God. Hmm, big red flag on that last one. Further study reveals that Muslims deny that Christ Jesus, Our Lord and Savior, was Crucified on the cross and rose from the dead. However, they acknowledge Jesus existed as the son of the Virgin Mary (Our Blessed Mother-Queen of Heaven) only to use Christ’s words, as we know, as Christians we read in the New Testament- Christ is referring to the coming of, or releasing of the Holy Ghost upon the world as our Paraclete, after His death and ascension- this statement is misinterpreted by Muslims to justify the coming of Muhammad (the last prophet-bull shit, piss be upon him). Christ our Lord tells us clearly NO ONE will come after me-No prophet that is to say. Christ tells us repeatedly, BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS. Lastly, there is NO salvation in Islam, thus making it pointless to practice and utterly false- ALL previous Pope’s thought so and said so, now we have Francis who states otherwise?????
How his Holiness is able to justify his belief that Muslims worship the same God as Christians is beyond me. Muslims clearly worship Satan-the Prince of lies and deceit. This is very evident through their actions, words and deeds. It is also very obvious in what Muslims don’t do and don’t say worldwide, or their ” in-action” to stop the madness which they all silently support and condone; because the Quran commands them to wage war.
Stop being cowards and push back. Read The Book of Revelation and see that cowards are the first ones to enter Hell’s-Damnation. Glory be to You Lord Jesus Christ!!!
Jay Boo says
Hey! Muslims
Don’t you realize that this is a secret Catholic baptism ritual of converting you.
Too late
You are all on camera as converts and are now officially Catholic.
Hey! — former Muslims let’s coexist and don’t curse your new Pope.
Raja says
Sure we all belong to the one God but to say that god of Koran and God of the Bible is the same would be blasphemy. He, the “pope” is doing a disservice to one true God, mankind and to the Christian world.
In no ways is he proclaiming God or His message. This kind of pussy footing with the evil Islam is just not acceptable. Is he not supposed to tell the truth about God? How God hates transgression of law against Him and against mankind (Which Islam is so keen to promote)
This guy is twisting the truth just as it is prophesied in the bible. Little wonder the Catholic church is ever dwindling. Truth will PREVAIL not the concocted lies of papa;
Truth Seeker says
Washing the Feet of Rapefugees gives A Wrong Message to all. When Jesus was in His Last Supper, he washed the Feet of Disciples. Act of this Pope, gives an Impression, Jesus did a mistake of Not Selecting His Foes to Wash the Feet!
All irrationalities is at End Times, Christians will take Suicidal Steps. This is one of it. As Westerners went away from God. they don’t have the guidance from Lord God moving in the path to please Satan.
ronald reed says
we may be all chidren of the same god ,but christians do not worship a satanic figure who insist on you killing, torturing, destroying all other human beings and animal life around you..this is what happenes when your idol is satan himself.
Berengaria says
I will wait until the Vicar of Christ, Pope Benedict says that we worship the same GOD. Until then, the faux Pope, Francis the Fickle, can wash every one of his dirty muslims’ feet.
Lucy says
let me explain something. Catholicism has become a cult of the pope driven by the media. That’s not what the faith teaches. Popes can be wrong! Sometimes dreadfully wrong… This explains what the church really teaches.
Tommy Peters says
Observe Carl’s Kitchen serving the (largely Muslim) hungry at St. Johns (Kuala Lumpur) and Spencer will be taking the mickey out of his conscience, rather the punchline.
Buzz says
Just think, the islamist want Rome next, maybe then, the Pope will reconsider the “foolishness” he is partaking in ?????? Don’t know why isis hasn’t attacked the Vatican yet ? Security must be better than what is provided for obummer ??????
AML says
Our Pope should only take the high road as Jesus did.
Not all Muslims are the enemy. Therefore it is good he washed their feet and kiss it.
Terroristic Islam and the doctrine that goes with it cannot be fought only with swords versus sword but the greatest defence which is the example of Jesus and the Catholic Church will stand by his example. The rest of us who decide a complementary way should not bring down our greatest ally when it comes to it – the great institution of the Catholic Church.
Pong says
How CC stands by his example is for everyone to see. Some of cause prefer to close their eyes and pretend that the pope is a temporary aberration from the true teachings of CC, or try to excuse his actions to remain “proud catholics”. They come up with all sorts of stupid statements, like “not all moslems are bad” and even invent new forms of islam: “terroristic islam”. We have been through all that nonsense and know that ALL moslems ARE bad, and there is no “terroristic islam, moderate islam” or any other islam. There is only islam and moslems, who are carers of this ideology.
You and your pathetic pope are the traitors to freedom and if you want it, to christianity. I can have respect to an enemy, but to your ilk only contempt.
Stephen says
The primary purpose of Christ washing the feet of the Apostles is related to the sacrament of Holy Orders/priesthood and the present Pope seems to confuse the primary purpose to subordinate symbolism namely humility.
But humility cannot be practiced seperated from truth and the present pontiff seems to be in clear contradition to the churches perennial teaching on national sovereignty and the patriotic obligation of all Christians to defend if necessary with ones life Christian truth and its principals.
It is a grave scandal and I say with sorrow a cowardly act to behave as if you forgot Christ’s final words to the Apostles and hence all their successors till the end of time “go forth and teach all nations baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Ghost.” And that teaching is truth Christ deposited with the Apostles not the UN and its globalist agenda of satanic unity/socialism/facism.
Christians do not worship the same god as the Muslim or the Hindu or the animist or the globalist or any other practitioner of a false religion but we worship the one true God revealed by Christ who alone is the way and the truth and the life. What a sad sight it is to see the one who is to lead the missionary activity of the Church function in such PC fashion.
Sandra Lee Smith says
Yes it is, and sadder still that so many will follow him down that pathto destruction, rather than examine his acts in the pure light of Yhwh God’s Word!
Falsafa says
to the general public reading blog – please do not give too much attention to the hate and bigotry spouted here. You can discover the beauty of Islam and have all your questions answered at the following resource:
http://www.islamreligion.com
Peace to All!
SpiritOf1683 says
We know the ‘beauty’ of Islam: 9/11, 3/11 plus 28,000 other terrorist atrocities since 9/11, and 1,400 years of butchery, debauchery, barbarianism, bestiality, brutality, backwardness, intolerance, savagery, superstition, misogyny, bigotry, ungratefulness, malevolence and leeching off the infidel. it could hardly be clearer.
Stephen says
Amen!
Stephen says
Falsafa how ironic the name reminds me of the word false. The christian teaching states that God is love, God is a communion of three Divine Persons The Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost which is the basis of St. John’s declaration that God is love/charity.
Can you state without qualification that islam teaches God is love? If you do you lie about what it teaches! If you don’t there is no basis for stating it is a religion of peace because that would be a lie! Get the point, damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Sounds like a false/lying religion to me.
Rev g says
Allah is the greatest of deceivers.
Sandra Lee Smith says
Indeed he is, and the Quran so states, as well as the Bible!
Champ says
Aw, yes, islam has so much to offer. For instance, islam robs men and women of *all* Hope. But nevermind about that because Hope will be replaced by despair, and in allah’s book, this is a good thing.
And allah is NOT the God of the Bible:
https://youtu.be/J6x5fuB8ofw
Kasey says
Who is he trying to kidd?????? Esp. when the verification of the existence of any god is dubious , to say the least. Otherwise are we to believe that this creator god exists somewhere out there in space and has been there since the beginning of time controlling it all? Get real. However how the universe came into existence is certainly debatable from the summation of natural forces, whatever they really are, most likely and it all happened 14 billion years ago according to latest scientific research. And to all religionists,who created the creator you claim exists? A riddle you’ll always avoid.
Champ says
And to all religionists,who created the creator you claim exists? A riddle you’ll always avoid.
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Question: “Who created God? Who made God? Where did God come from?”
Answer: A common argument from atheists and skeptics is that if all things need a cause, then God must also need a cause. The conclusion is that if God needed a cause, then God is not God (and if God is not God, then of course there is no God). This is a slightly more sophisticated form of the basic question “Who made God?” Everyone knows that something does not come from nothing. So, if God is a “something,” then He must have a cause, right?
The question is tricky because it sneaks in the false assumption that God came from somewhere and then asks where that might be. The answer is that the question does not even make sense. It is like asking, “What does blue smell like?” Blue is not in the category of things that have a smell, so the question itself is flawed. In the same way, God is not in the category of things that are created or caused. God is uncaused and uncreated—He simply exists.
How do we know this? We know that from nothing, nothing comes. So, if there were ever a time when there was absolutely nothing in existence, then nothing would have ever come into existence. But things do exist. Therefore, since there could never have been absolutely nothing, something had to have always been in existence. That ever-existing thing is what we call God. God is the uncaused Being that caused everything else to come into existence. God is the uncreated Creator who created the universe and everything in it.
Here: http://www.gotquestions.org/who-created-God.html
Stephen says
Casey, how the universe came into existence is not debatable but it is a mystery. What we absolutely without apology or debate know is that the One True God created it out of nothing (any preexisting matter) because He alone existed before the visible material world was.
Mysteries are believed by an act of humility while modern pantheistic science is believed by hubris. By interesting corollary it is a greater act of faith to believe in evolutionary science because there is not one shred of true scietific evidence for it than to believe in God which creation itself is evidence for long before we dust off the microscopes and telescopes, that is, it is self evident. How God did it is not for science to say for God existed before it and in fact there was no such thing as science until God created it. And the creature has no right in trying to squeeze its Creator under its microscopes!
Stephen says
“Otherwise are we to believe that this creator god exists somewhere out there in space and has been there since the beginning of time controlling it all? ”
Simple answer is no you dont have to believe that, but you “choose” to believe it! There was no space and no time until God created it.
Marcel Bérubé says
Dear Mr Spencer , pleasr give Pope Francis the slipper kisser prize of the week .
Thank you .
SpiritOf1683 says
This must be the most toe-curling picture of the year so far. Clearly Pope Urban II isn’t around today.
BenDavid says
This is for a lot of Christians too much to overcome…
I hope these individuals, and more importantly other Muslims (globally) respectfully appreciate this, BUT I DOUBT.
I think it’s wrong what he’s doing, given the circumstances (Christian genocide in the Middle East) and the unique nature of the enemy that we are facing globally – the political Islam.
All in all, this looks more like an embarrassment to Christianity, and a symbolic submission to Islam, than anything sacred. Jesus would be spinning in his.. wherever.
Sandra Lee Smith says
Not precisely; this is about creating the 1 world religion, better known as mystery Babylon in the Bible, particularly in John’s Revelation. I may be wrong, but Francis has been my #1 candidate for the office of false prophet since he was elected! HIs subsequent actions have only solidified that impression. Bringing Catholics and Muslims under 1 umbrella is essential to creating that religion!
b.c.terry says
Submission.
Now take your position of a dhiimmitude.
TruthWFree says
I agree that we are all children of the same God, but the allah god of the Quran that has fooled 1 billion Muslims is SATAN.
Sandra Lee Smith says
No, we are NOT “all children of the same God”; we ARE all created by Him, in His image, but only those who have come to Him on His terms are His children. He desires that all do so, but allows free will, so that such choice is voluntary. In other words, Yhwh God loves us enough to allow us to choose the lake of fire for eternity rather than force His will and salvation (which is how we become His children) on any of us.
Khushi says
The pope is stupid.
Instead of condemning islam for mass killing of christians in many countries, this man is washing & kissing the feet of muslims?
Off-topic but relevant:-
Just heard about blasts in lahore, pakistan on the killing of 56 people celebrating easter – now will the pope change his opinion of muslims?
No, i guess he won’t – politically correct nonsense has penetrated all parts of the world.
Sandra Lee Smith says
Not so far off topic, since we’re talking Muslims and Christians; and it was likely Muslims who killed or injured those Christians. But this pope is a Jesuit, which makes a difference too, since the Jesuits are the innermost core group around Satan in his 1 world government and religion push since 1540, when they were ordained to wipe out the Reformation and the Jews, to bring that about!
Carlito234 says
So the Vatican is part of the globalist movement. Aint that sum SHEYIT!
Sandra Lee Smith says
The Jesuits are smack dab in the middle of it, along with banking clans like the Rothschilds’, and the Freemasons. They’ve been working at it since the mid 1500s.