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SC bill would hold sponsors liable if refugees from terror states commit crimes, Hamas-linked CAIR enraged

Mar 20, 2016 11:51 am By Robert Spencer

If you try to protect yourself from a jihad terror attack, you’re liable to be called “un-American” by Hamas-linked CAIR’s Ibrahim “Honest Ibe” Hooper. Foes of the bill “say the measure is out of character for a state that often espouses the importance of Christian hospitality and loving your neighbor.” Is Christian hospitality, then, a mandate for suicide? A Christian must be hospitable even if doing so exposes him to deadly risk? Trying to prevent possible jihad terror attacks makes one un-Christian and un-American?

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“South Carolina, New York State consider refugee registries,” by Jeffrey Collins, Associated Press, March 19, 2016:

COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) — While Republican front-runner Donald Trump continues to make waves nationally for his comments about banning Muslims from traveling to the country, lawmakers in two very different states are proposing that all refugees register with the government.

Registration bills are being proposed in both New York State and in South Carolina, where if refugees commit an act of terrorism, their sponsors, under the bill, could be held liable.

The South Carolina lawmakers say they are less concerned about a possible constitutional challenge than a possible terrorist threat coming to the state.

Opponents, however, say the measure is out of character for a state that often espouses the importance of Christian hospitality and loving your neighbor.

“I want us to be who we have always been — a welcoming people,” said Sen. Kevin Johnson, D-Manning, who is helping lead the fight against the bill.

Sponsoring Sen. Kevin Bryant said the bill has three components: a registry of all refugees; civil liability for sponsors of refugees from counties considered state sponsors of terror by the federal government (currently Iran, Sudan and Syria) for crimes committed by refugees; a prohibition on the state spending any money on refugees and their families.

Bryant said the goal of the bill is to protect people’s safety. Nearly 850 refugees from a number of countries in Europe, Africa and the Middle East have come to South Carolina since 2010, with 87 arriving since last summer. The Anderson Republican said if only one of them were to conduct a terrorist attack it would be devastating.

Instead, he said people in South Carolina can show their compassion by giving to relief organizations that help refugees elsewhere.

“Why should we bring one refugee here when we could spend the same money and help 10 in their part of the world?” Bryant said.

A challenge to the South Carolina law is likely because the law singles people out by county of origin and seems bent toward discriminating against Muslims, said Ibrahim Hooper, spokesman for the [Hamas-linked] Council on American-Islamic Relations.

“If it is not illegal, it is at least un-American,” Hooper said….

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Filed Under: CAIR, Featured, immigration Tagged With: Ibrahim Hooper, Kevin Bryant, Kevin Johnson, South Carolina


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  1. mortimer says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 12:08 pm

    The mosque should be held responsible if any of its members commit jihad.

    The Koran should be held responsible for atrocities and dragged into court, where it can be proved to be incitement to commit murder, genocide and ethnic cleansing.

    Supremacists do not belong in Western countries. A supremacist doesn’t want equality.

    • Susan says

      Mar 20, 2016 at 12:54 pm

      Mortimer,
      Great Idea! with you 100%!

    • خَليفة says

      Mar 20, 2016 at 12:57 pm

      Mosque should be held responsible AND shut down, property seized, funds frozen.

      Parents are liable for what their minor children do, why shouldn’t sponsors be liable for refugees – after all the sponsor is there to ensure the state that the person will be a good resident – if not that what is the purpose of “sponsoring”? Sponsors are also to provide financial assistance if the sponsored person can’t find work. Sponsors are supposed to help them assimilate into our culture.

      And as far as registration, WTF every citizen is supposed to be registered, why would anyone feel we didn’t need to register refugees? If you wanted undocumented solders living amongst the citizenry and able to threaten and/or kill without detection, then sure lets let in countless unregistered psychopaths that want to kill us.

    • linnte says

      Mar 20, 2016 at 10:03 pm

      Perfect solution! The consequences of an action should be inseparable from the perpetrator.

    • muskat antonopolis says

      Mar 22, 2016 at 8:34 am

      agreed…to have cair or any other pro-jihad muslim organization active in the
      USA, to allow the mosques to openly preach jihad against America and the Jews
      of this Nation and elsewhere…is kin to having a headquarters camp of hitler
      or stalin in DC with wire taps to the defense dept. during the 2nd WW…..Until
      WTP can see(!) that our government IS taking the right steps to avoid a situation
      such as is taking place in Europe right NOW, and !regardless! who is the freaking
      president…trump or cruz or suzy two shoes……then WTP must give our government
      No Rest!…..or….if, our gutless and spineless PC freaking congress will not eradicate
      these organizations then I guess that there is No Option but for those of WTP who
      care…will have to do it ourselves…WAKE UP CONGRESS….if you do not act
      soon…then any mayhem that comes around Will be laid at your doorstep!

    • bob kelly says

      May 16, 2016 at 6:53 pm

      The Koran is a book that incites every things that is non democratic, sodomy, rape , murder, slavery, cruelty to children + woman , it just goes on and about who and how you should hate them it should be ban for hate speech, other books have been banned for much less

  2. David says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 12:17 pm

    What is wrong with requiring “refugees” to register? I thought it was federal law! Many of my relatives on my Mom’s side are from Canada. If they came into the USA just to spend the summer working on a relatives farm, they were required to register as an Alien.
    Yet, somehow today, any rifraf from Camel Hump, Goatfartastan should get a free pass!
    That is utter nonsense. What has happened to the basic principles of OBAY THE LAW?
    Where are the voices of truth and justice?

  3. Ralph Statum says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 12:18 pm

    The 7th Century Barbaric Inbred Idiots Can Go To Hell; These Stupid Satan Followers Are Bound And Determined To Continue Killing People That Do Not Worship Satan…

    • Andy says

      Mar 21, 2016 at 12:53 am

      Any student of the Holy Bible (KJV for me), will realize that Satan is a murderer, deceiver, liar, counterfeiter, enemy of the good, lover of hate, makes human beings lovers of everything evil and Satan hates the Creator-God of the universe. All of the above fit snugly into the religion named Islam and the book named the Koran.

  4. quotha raven says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 12:25 pm

    ”
    “If it is not illegal, it is at least un-American,” Hooper said…”….rendering the perfectly serviceable English word “sponsor” utterly meaningless…

    Shut up, Hooper. Just shut up.

    Cheers!

    quotha raven.

    • Mark Swan says

      Mar 21, 2016 at 4:43 am

      Yeah Hooper

      Hey quotha raven

      Cheers

  5. pennant8 says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 12:40 pm

    Joseph Goebbels,oops, I mean Ibrahim Hooper, sure is a true blue patriot calling attention to this “un-American” legislation. He and his CAIR associates are always going on about “our” Constitution, “our” Bill of Rights, “our” founding fathers. It’s almost enough to bring a tear to your eye.

  6. jewdog says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 12:50 pm

    A very sensible bill, one that would never be proposed in Vermont. Glad I left.

  7. Angemon says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 12:52 pm

    Opponents, however, say the measure is out of character for a state that often espouses the importance of Christian hospitality and loving your neighbor.

    “I want us to be who we have always been — a welcoming people,” said Sen. Kevin Johnson, D-Manning, who is helping lead the fight against the bill.

    Bollocks. There’s nothing in said law stopping you from being welcoming – all it does is make you *responsible* for the actions you*choose* to make. People who genuinely believe that there are no terrorists among the “Syrian” “refugees” would object on grounds of it being a waste of time and money. As for the people who know, or at least admit the possibility of, there are terrorists among them, well, why are they objecting this law instead of trying to come up with effective vetting measures?

    “If it is not illegal, it is at least un-American,” Hooper said

    Huh, so what? Much of what Obama does is un-American (if not illegal), and I don’t see you standing up against it. Heck, demanding sharia to be the law of the land in un-American and I don’t see you protesting against it.

    The truth is, having personal responsibility and dealing with the consequences of one’s actions is as American as it gets. And that’s what this law is all about – people who want to bring “refugees” being held accountable for what their protégés do. The law includes a prohibition on the state spending any money on refugees and their families. Good – if you want to bring someone to the US, why should the state have to pay for it? Why should others have to pay to feed your pathological altruism?

    • boakai ngombu says

      Mar 20, 2016 at 1:27 pm

      and slightly OT, if Abe wants responsibility exercised, he’d really be glad that Congress would declare the Muslim Brotherhood to be designated a terrorist organization.

  8. خَليفة says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 1:05 pm

    I bet any non-Muslim refugee going into a Muslim country has to register with the government. So a registration law is is also right in line with Islamic principles – so why is this cair lap-dog being so hypocritical?

    • Charli Main says

      Mar 20, 2016 at 2:34 pm

      In years past, I have worked in just about every Muslim country you could think off.
      On every occasion, WITHOUT EXCEPTION, my employers had to sponsor me and WITHOUT EXCEPTION, I had to obtain an entry/exit visa, issued by the Muslim country´s embassy before I could travel.

    • Greyhound Fancier says

      Mar 20, 2016 at 9:43 pm

      Not only must they register, but an RN I know (Canadian citizen at the time) traveled to Saudi to accept a contract to practice at a Saudi hospital. Her passport was taken from her, and she was warned that if she violated any S.A. laws, she’d be out of the country within 24 hours.

      • Charli Main says

        Mar 21, 2016 at 4:11 am

        I have seen a group of Philipino workers arrested and immediately deported, at Jeddah Airport, for having bibles in their baggage.
        Just imagine the mass hysteria that would break out in Britain, if Muslims were arrested at Heathrow and deported, for having Korans in their baggage.
        Saudis are two faced, hypocritical scum.

        • Mark Swan says

          Mar 21, 2016 at 4:47 am

          Yes They Are

  9. Hope says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 1:18 pm

    The evil CAIR is at it again. I hope and pray the proponents of these bills will fight on and do everything in their power to get this legislation passed. I am so encouraged to see some of our lawmakers joining the American people in resisting the pro-Islamist agenda. And hopefully CAIR will soon go the way of the Holy Land Foundation – completely shut down and unable to operate in the US. Hey, CAIR: STFU.

  10. Shmooviyet says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 1:37 pm

    Dougie with the dead-fish eyes wants to see EVERY state overrun with ‘refugees’, aka new Democrat voters, and the tax-payer footing the entire bill, as has happened in his home state of MN.
    The only time one sees a glint of life in those eyes is when he’s doing the public distress-act for CAIR. Merely a glimmer of hatred bubbling up from his miserable depths. “Un-American” lol.

    Good for SC; the CAIR victimhood crowd will put up one he!! of a fight. Let’s see the lawmakers make an attempt to protect the people. (Where will Goober stand on this one?…)

  11. SoCalMike says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 2:09 pm

    Federal parasites are the worse grade of maggots.
    They never change.
    The 9/11 terrorists, the Boston Marathon bombers, the Times Square bomber, the San Bernadino shooters were all here legally yet the federal maggots keep insisting on bring more in.

    And it makes me sick to my stomach that Maggot Hooper from CAIR feels safe in his skin here.
    He is an enemy alien.

    • Keys says

      Mar 21, 2016 at 12:48 pm

      Yes, he is an enemy alien (did he ever become a US citizen?) and those who protect him are domestic enemies.

      Islam, in the Koran and Sunna, is an enemy to the US Constitution. Muslims who support Sharia are enemies to the US Constitution.

      Does not the oath for most federal and state officers include: “…will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic…” ?

  12. somehistory says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 2:15 pm

    We don’t care what cair don’t like…

    In the law of some states, if a person in a bar is sold alcohol when he is already drunk, or appears to be, the bartender who sells the drink to him can be held liable for whatever mayhem he may cause driving home drunk.
    If a moslim comes in as a *refugee* and is sponsored…many of the sponsors are doing it for the money they are getting…by a citizen, then the citizen should be held accountable as the bartender who sells the drink for a profit.
    The laws about selling drinks to drunks made a lot of bars make a lot of changes in the way they do business and the employees became more discerning, knowing their livelihood and future prospects were at stake.
    These laws might just make some of these people and organizations sit up and think about what and who they are sponsoring…and if the money will be worth it.
    If the sponsors were made to put up bail money for each one they bring in, they might think really hard about it all.

    These cair guys don’t care about anything except their awful satanic death cult they wish to impose on everyone else; and know less about what is legal and *American* culture than the toad I found on my doorstep.

  13. len vaness says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 3:31 pm

    When it passes,as it logically should…it will set precedent for all other States…and,I hope, for a few other countries too.

  14. Virginia G says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 4:48 pm

    We don’t care what this muslim terrorist group CAIR spoke person thinks! This is our country; not his. If he feels this way then let him move to the Middle East where his ideas and distorted believes will be accepted. NOW GO BACK TO THE MIDDLE EAST—-WE DON’T NEED YOU HERE…

    • Carolyne says

      Mar 21, 2016 at 5:13 pm

      And take his goat with him.

  15. John Mays says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 6:05 pm

    Protect yourself and your family from the zika virus…AND protect yourself and your family from the Islam virus!

  16. Myxlplik says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 6:47 pm

    Not discriminating Hoopser, just fighting for survival against an ideology, which inspires hatred and violence.

    • quotha raven says

      Mar 20, 2016 at 7:02 pm

      To Myxlplik – who sez “Not discriminating Hoopser, just…”

      But Myxlplik! “Discriminating” is a formerly-useful English adjective whose first definition is something like “Embodying the ability to discriminate, as between good and evil, better and worse, prettier and uglier, credible and not credible…etc, etc,

      In other words, “discrimination” was a positive quality necessary for making good intellectual judgments grounded in a proper context, if you will, and ability to think, to make judgments.

      But that was before the word was hijacked by race-baiters and victimhood-espousers and gimme-datters. I’m trying to restore this fine word’s integrity!

      Cheers!.

      quotha raven

      • quotha raven says

        Mar 20, 2016 at 7:03 pm

        …as in “he had discriminating taste in wines…”

  17. April Huber says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 7:16 pm

    I hope it passes!! What a great idea!

  18. Peter Charles says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 7:30 pm

    Sounds like a very good idea to me. If CAIR hates it, then it is a GREAT idea!

  19. BW022 says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 8:13 pm

    Funny how people think it is “Un American” to actually be responsible for those you are sponsoring? I don’t see why this is any big burden?

    If an American married a Canadian and sponsors him… she would be responsible for all his debts. If he is arrested for a DUI and is ordered to pay a $2000 fine… she is responsible. If he runs over someone in his car, doesn’t have insurance, and is sued… she would be responsible for that. If he get sick and needs to go to the hospital… she is responsible for this. This is what sponsoring someone means — taking financial responsibility for their actions.

    Why is this different if they are convicted of terrorism? Why not expect to be responsible for policing, court, and other costs?

    More importantly… why is it somehow an issue? A sponsor is taking responsibility for untold millions of potential liability for relatively simple mistakes (a DUI or failing to pay insurance) or totally unavoidable (getting sick or injured, unable to work, etc.) issues. Yet, it is too much to ask that sponsors know the people they are sponsoring well enough to know they won’t blow up a crowd of people or run off to fight with ISIS?

    If people are expected to know and monitor the people they are sponsoring well enough to know that they will be paying their insurance premiums, paying their taxes, not driving drunk, not cheating on their taxes, are working, etc… why is it so hard to accept that they should need to know that they aren’t planning to blow up a plane or shoot up a mall?

  20. Jay Boo says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 9:20 pm

    Muslims and their sponsors liable.
    When have Muslims ever been accountable?

    Close companion of Muhammad, Abū Bakr gave his six year old daughter to Muhammad.
    Nether one had any shame.

    In fairness to pervert Muhammad, it must be said that there is no proof that Muhammad had intercourse with his kindergarten aged six year old before she turned nine, only sodomy.
    Phew, he was not quite as bad as we Islamophobes all thought. We are so judgmental.

    Even Muslims admit to nine years old.

  21. linnte says

    Mar 20, 2016 at 10:05 pm

    Registration with the Government isn’t mandatory? Hell! Even Americans are registered! Our drivers licenses do that. This is a crazy mixed up world we live in!

  22. Islam :- the religion of leaching says

    Mar 21, 2016 at 12:07 am

    Hamas backed” CAIR should be charged to front a bond for every refugee imported, the bond will cover welfare for the first 5 years ,,

    All the peaceful hard working refugees should be able to repay the “Hamas backed” CAIR their “loan” within a short period of time and the govt would return the residual amount …

    How simple is that ??

    and the refugee deported for as much as a parking ticket…

    • linnte says

      Mar 21, 2016 at 3:33 am

      Excellent idea! Email them that idea and tell them also, for every asylum seeker that is arrested for inciting violence or recruiting for IS, one CAIR member goes to prison with them! A few short months, and BADABING BADABOOM! No CAIR! HAHAHAHAHA!

  23. OldVeteran says

    Mar 21, 2016 at 4:19 am

    My local state representative also has such a great “no state funding” for any Syrian/Mideast refugee starting from January 2016. This is catching on folks – and I love the “Our blood on the Sponsor’s Hands!” These people need to be held responsible for the acts of the Muslim savages these pseudo-charity big-wigs get paid huge amounts in salary and bonuses from We the People’s federal tax dollars – and we are agreeing with Mr. Trump – why do these Muslims need to be here ? A Judeo-Christian country? Oh, I think CAIR does Muslims a great disservice to believe they need to be here. There are 57 Muslim countries – choose one! Send CAIR savages there also!

  24. bostongal912 says

    Mar 21, 2016 at 5:17 am

    Why don’t people get the times we are living in! It’s not the 50’s for God’s sake! A large number of these people hate us and want us dead! It’s as simple as that! If CAIR had their way they would bring the whole Middle East over here! All they do is file law suits! They are obnoxious and I hope that more states follow the lead of NY state and South Carolina!

  25. Jack Holan says

    Mar 21, 2016 at 8:23 am

    Many years ago if you sponsored a foreign national and they could not meet their obligations, YOU, the Sponsor were on the hook. There is nothing Christian or UnChristian Jewish or Non-Jewish about it. It’s about a Sponsor (whatever entity) in this case ‘Faith based organizations paid a hefty sum to bring over and maintain refugees. Actually the UN is doing most of the selecting process. By putting the organizations in a position of financial responsibility they will be more careful and alert in how they handle there charges. They’re being paid by you and me. If something goes wrong, they aren’t keeping their eye on the ball, we shouldn’t be expected to foot the bill a second time; let them take it out of their profit margins. If you say it’s too risky for them and they shouldn’t be punished then you make Our point and that of the FBI, they can’t be vetted and we should not be absorbing them at this time.

  26. Florida Jim says

    Mar 21, 2016 at 10:09 am

    Great idea! This could bankrupt the Obama’s before they begin to rape and pillage America as the Clinton’s have done.

  27. Aussie Infidel says

    Mar 21, 2016 at 9:46 pm

    Sen. Kevin Johnson, D-Manning, who is helping lead the fight against the bill, commented, “I want us to be who we have always been — a welcoming people.”

    Being welcoming and inclusive is fine when you are dealing with people of good faith and similar culture. But many of these people will not have the same values and aspirations as Americans; and indeed, will seek to undermine and eventually eliminate your culture from within. Their Quran commands Muslims to not befriend Jews and Christians (Q5:51); and to practise ‘taqiyya’ ie to lie and deceive kafirs, (Quran 3:28; and Reliance of the Traveller, r 8.2).

    “And fight them until there is no fitnah (opposition) and [until] the religion, all of it, is for Allah. And if they cease – then indeed, Allah is Seeing of what they do.” (Quran 8:39).

    Welcome good decent people by all means; but welcoming Muslims would be like inviting foxes into your henhouse.

    • Dennis says

      Mar 22, 2016 at 11:42 pm

      Has a democrat ever read the real Koran?

      • linnte says

        Mar 22, 2016 at 11:50 pm

        Dennis, I WAS a Democrat until I read the Qur’an! Hahahahahahaha! It shook me to the core and made me reevaluate EVERYTHING I stood for. Now my friends, that I have left anyway, call me a redneck hippy. ?

      • Angemon says

        Mar 23, 2016 at 2:45 pm

        Only parts of it – the parts “moderate” muslim write about on dawah pieces.

  28. Jeremiah says

    Mar 22, 2016 at 3:57 am

    If Trump is elected president there will be a war on hate speech. Real hate speech! CAIR will be history and its leaders behind bars. Time to run.

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