Below are four reports about this incident. Only the sensationalistic SuperStation95 claims that these Muslims opened fire on hikers and campers, which would seem to be difficult to cover up if true; however, I’ve included their report here because it contains numerous photos of those who were arrested, as well as messages from a witness that came in as it was all happening. None of the three other reports say they were shooting at anyone; apparently they were just practicing shooting, but the screams of “Allahu akbar,” reported in two of the stories, certainly should make these men worth watching. But most likely they will not be.
SuperStation95: Muslims fire on hikers and campers, scream “Allahu akbar”: “Shots Fired At Campers/Hikers In Apple Valley – Hot Springs, CA; Armed Terror Cell Near Los Angeles? Cops Responded — Then Let Them All Go !!!!,” SuperStation95, March 27, 2016 (thanks to Pamela Geller):
8:28 PM EDT Sunday, 27 March — A heavily armed group of men with Middle Eastern appearance was arrested two hours ago outside Los Angeles after opening fire upon Hikers and Campers in a large State Park in the area.
THIS STORY HAS BEEN UPDATED BELOW WITH AN OFFICIAL STATEMENT FROM THE SAN BERNARDINO COUNTY SHERIFF’S DEPARTMENT
Photos taken by one of the victims of the attack have been supplied to SuperStation95 as have screen shots of MMS messages sent/received during the incident. They appear below.
No word yet from authorities about the identities or affiliation of the men arrested. The Adelanto, CA Police Department effectuated the arrests.
According to the victim/witness, there were two groups of men, about 15 per group, armed with heavy weapons, who began shouting “Allah u Akbar” and started firing. The firing allegedly lasted upwards of TWO HOURS before police were able to find callers in the vast California parkland.
When police were responding, one group of 15 or so men took-off into the hills, while the other group was captured by police.
According to one of the victim/witnesses, his cellphone GPS map indicates below where the incident took place:
Police responded and quickly made several arrests as shown in the photos below (Click Image to Enlarge):
A call to the Adelanto, CA Police Department went to the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Department and a new “twist” developed.” Kathy, from that department told SuperStation95 “I checked on this and the incident was unfounded.” When told we had photos of almost ten police cars and fourteen men in handcuffs, Kathy responded “You’ll have to contact the Public Information Officer” and gave us an e-mail address to do so!
You’re looking at the pictures; does this look “unfounded” to you?…
See the photos here.
Victor Valley News: Shots fired, but not apparently at anyone, no “Allahu akbar”: “Report of 15 Men With Guns Detained at Deep Creek,” by Christie Martin, Victor Valley News, March 28, 2016 (thanks to Jim):
APPLE VALLEY-(VVNG.com): At 9:20 a.m. on Sunday morning multiple agencies including the San Bernardino County Sheriff’s deputies from the Victor Valley Station responded the report of suspicious circumstances at Deep Creek hot springs area.
Per scanner traffic, the reporting party told dispatchers that there were fifteen or more possibly armed men of middle eastern descent that camped out at the location chanting loudly through the night in what was believed to be their native language. Some of the men, believed to be in their 20’s went to a secluded area to shoot at around 3:00 a.m. Witnesses said that the shots fired sounded louder than that of handguns.
The Sheriff’s helicopter was the first on scene and they reported that when the men saw them they grabbed their things and began hiking toward the Bowen Ranch parking lot. The helicopter followed as deputies were en route to the location. The deputies arrived at the Bowen Ranch parking lot and waited for the men to approach.
The men continued to hike for around 20 minutes with backpacks and other bulky items. During the hike, the men reportedly huddled up in possible discussion and at one point split up into two groups.
When deputies approached the men all complied and were patted down. After all were patted down and cuffed, deputies requested an area search since they believed they could have ditched weapons while hiking the trails. Deputies searched for over an hour and did not locate any weapons left behind.
It is unclear if any weapons were located in the possession of the suspects. San Bernardino County Sheriff’s Spokeswoman, Olivia Bozek said, “The deputies detained the subjects and from what I was told they are going to be transported to the High Desert Detention Center. I do not know what charges they are going to be booked for.”…
Here is the LA Times report: no firing on anyone, no “Allahu akbar.” “FBI investigating reports of Middle Eastern men fired hundreds of shots in Apple Valley,” by Richard Winton, Los Angeles Times, March 29, 2016:
The FBI on Tuesday was continuing to question people after receiving reports from campers that a group of armed men in a remote part of Apple Valley fired hundreds of shots Sunday morning.
San Bernardino County sheriff’s deputies and an FBI agent responded to the area known as Deep Creek Hot Springs after reports of gunshots and chanting in the predawn hours, officials said. According to law enforcement sources, 17 men of Middle Eastern descent were detained.
But none were arrested or charged in connection with shooting firearms and they cooperated with deputies, authorities said.
San Bernardino County sheriff’s spokeswoman Jodi Miller said the men were released after authorities found no evidence of a specific crime or outstanding warrants.
“None of the persons interviewed yesterday were identified as terrorists,” she said.
One rifle did not have a serial number because it was bought in parts, Miller said. But it was deemed to be legal in California. She said the FBI may be conducting additional interviews with the men.
FBI spokeswoman Laura Eimiller said agents are working with local authorities to determine if crimes were committed.
A caller to 911 reported hearing more than 100 shots fired and seeing several men wearing turbans in the area of the shooting.
With the assistance of a sheriff’s helicopter, deputies located the men walking away from a creek carrying backpacks and other items.
A search found several handguns, a rifle and a shotgun, according to a sheriff’s statement.
“A records check of the subjects, their weapons, and their vehicles was completed,” the statement said. “The records check revealed none of the subjects had a criminal history or outstanding warrants, the weapons were registered with the Department of Justice except for the rifle, and the vehicles were also registered.”
Sheriff’s investigators contacted several hikers, but none witnessed the guns being fired. “There was no evidence found that a crime had been committed by any of the subjects who were detained, and they were released,” the department said….
CBS Local: no hikers even witnessed any shots fired, but “Allahu akbar” was heard: “17 Men Reportedly Heard Chanting, Firing Off Shots In Apple Valley Detained, Released,” CBSLA.com, March 29, 2016:
APPLE VALLEY (CBSLA.com) — Federal and local law enforcement authorities Tuesday are investigating after 17 men were detained for reportedly firing off hundreds of rounds in a remote part of Apple Valley.
San Bernardino County Sheriff’s deputies and an FBI agent were among the units that detained the men – reportedly all of Middle Eastern descent – who were camping out in the Deep Creek Hot Springs area Sunday morning, authorities said.
A 911 caller reported hearing over 100 shots fired and seeing five to seven men wearing turbans and shooting “assault rifles, handguns, and shotguns,” according to a Sheriff’s Department statement.
A county sheriff’s helicopter located the men walking near a creek with backpacks “and other items”, The Los Angeles Times reported.
Officials say the men were cooperative as they were detained and searched.
Several handguns, a rifle, and a shotgun were found at the scene, but a records check found all the weapons were registered with the exception of the rifle, which reportedly didn’t have a serial number because it was purchased in parts, an FBI spokesperson told The Times.
Police scanner traffic posted online by the Victor Valley News Group described “a large group of subjects wearing turbans and chanting” at the scene.
“They were up all night chanting ‘Allah akbar’-type stuff,” an unidentified officer is heard saying on the audio recording.
None of the hikers interviewed by Sheriff’s investigators say they witnessed any shots being fired, according to Sheriff’s officials.
A photo of the arrests showing several men handcuffed at the scene was posted by the Victor Valley News Group but was not immediately confirmed by authorities.
All 17 men were eventually released because Sheriff’s investigators say they had no outstanding warrants or criminal histories.
“There was no evidence found that a crime had been committed by any of the subjects who were detained and they were released,” a Sheriff’s spokesperson said….

John Galt III says
Carefully vetted
Religion of Peace
nothing to see here – move along
john spielman says
at least get their DNA profile so when there’s an explosion they can be identified!
dumbledoresarmy says
*I* would have tried to find out what mosque/s they attend.
Bug their vehicles, track them, like tracking ants to the nest.
If there’s a mosque or mosques they’re attending it should be surprise-raided and searched.
linnte says
I was thinking the same, and hopefully the S.Cal FBI is hot on this. But somehow, I don’t think so.
Kevin says
Right on!
Con Ken says
Very good, hair sample, something, swab in cheek.
When or if any of these men do anything illegal, and if they hurt someone, it will always come back to this day.
If they were innocent, they also would not of ran away or split in two groups, next get dogs out there to trace their steps to see if there is a hole in the ground dealing w other explosives.
AL akabar is the war cry before they do death!
Do not kid yourself, they r not good little Muslims, and moderate Muslims do not go shooting guns in the wee hours of night over 100 bullets
mortimer says
Dry Run: a practice jihad attack! All across the USA, Muslims are in gun clubs practicing for jihad.
Won’t all this vibrant multiculturalism be wonderful when it EXPLODES? Soon, no one if the US will feel safe because of Islamic vigilantism…normative Islam, rather than an aberration.
mortimer says
American elites who have not done the basic reading of Islam, believe they can understand Islam through Marxist dialectics alone. They cannot.
They assume that inequality causes jihad, whereas Allah says that his HATRED of dirty KAFIRS causes jihad. So who is right? Allah? Or cultural Marxists?
Who knows more about Islam? Mohammed? Or American elites, who have not read Mohammed’s biography, words and deeds?
Is it not preposterous for them to present themselves as experts on Islam without doing the basic reading list?
maghan says
The vast majority of Americans know zero about Marxism. Mention Marx and they think you are talking about Groucho.
Myxlplik says
Yup, I can see it now. Here’s the headline.
“San Bernadino Mall attackers, in custody a month before massacre”
Jack Holan says
Mortimer may be unto something. It would be more than interesting, if it could be feasibly be done, to ascertain an approximate number of MIDDLE EASTERN LOOKING ppl practicing at gun ranges.
Con Ken says
Yes, that is very very true, a friend of mine in Dallas Texas, says the gun range is always full of Muslims and they were trying to buy the range from the owner and he wasn’t selling
Allan Mandrowski says
I bet my money on the Western cowboys to deal swiftly with these muslim maniacs spraying bullets.
JayT says
This took place in Southern California–where I live. In Socal, there is no such thing as Western cowboys, we have a state legislature hell bent on denying the 2nd amendment via: an ever shrinking roster of allowed firearms within the state, repeated attempts at banning ammunition including out of state mail order purchases, and even banning batons and such when you are finally reduced to considering sticks of wood as your only means of defense. Yes, the same legislature that spawned the ultimate duplicitous poster boy of gun control former Senator Leland Yee. The one convicted of gun running for various criminal elements, including Muslim militants in the Phillipines.
We also have a governor that along with a good amount of the local population believe in the open border concept and to hell with the consequences.
If Jihadists are flourishing in Socal then they have most certainly done their homework and picked the right place. Only in Socal do the rights of the criminal mostly exceed those of the victim in most cases. May God have mercy upon us, since our politicians obviously won’t………
Allan Mandrowski says
This is depressing news.
I wish you and everyone in SoCal a safe future. These maniacs need to be contained and dealt with.
linnte says
Prayers for you and all yours! Stay safe, because “it has begun!”
MTMLA says
The liberals in SC voted all these lefties in. We can only blame them…
I read these muslims were shooting towards the area were people were camping, according to a witness.
Julia says
True, blame the liberals who voted them in, but don’t blame all Californians. There are many conservatives here too – we are just a bit out-numbered. But this is where I was born, and where all of my family is, so I stay.
Michael Warden says
Used to be Cowboys and Indians. Cowboys and Muslims ?
Can’t wait.
underbed cat says
Unbelievable…..but in California what else is new as long as they don’t cause mischief in that state.
I suppose the police were prohibited to ask if they are muslims,( that would be racist) did they have permits….did they get licenses, id, visas’ most likely they were born here and just wanted to practice shooting. I hope the campers remained safe.
This is not good.
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Walter Sieruk says
Those violent and dangerous Muslims yell out “Allah u Akbar” Nevertheless, there are a number of apologists for Islam, some are imams and mullahs and strangely enough, even some so called “Christian” pastors, who have the outstanding claim that Christians and Muslim both believe in and worship the same God. So it stands to reason that it’s important to know if this claims valid and true or invalid and false. The facts are that the god of Islam or the Muslims is a single being. In great contrast the God of Christianity, of the Christians consists as the Trinity. By the Trinity it means that “Within the essence of the one True God there are Three Persons. Being God the Father. God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. Not three gods in one But Three Distinct Persons in One God. Being the Tri-Personal Nature of God, Matthew 3:13-17. Second Corinthians 13:14. . The Bible teaches, the Father is God, Galatians 1:1.The Son is God, First John 5:20. The Holy Spirit is God, Acts 5:3,4. Not three gods but the one and only Triune God. As further explained in the Christian book MAJOR BIBLE THEMES by Lewis Sperry Chafer on page 39 which informs the readers that “Many believe that the doctrine of the Trinity in implicit in the use of the word Elohim, as the name of God which is in a plural form and seems to refer to the Triune God. “ Likewise, in the Christian magazine PERHAPS TODAY November/December 2013 on page 8 it reads about Genesis 1:1. “In the beginning God [this is the plural noun Elohim, meaning ‘more than one’] created the heaven and the earth.” Furthermore, a bit of a view of the inner workings of the Trinity together may be seen in that the God the Father raised Jesus from the dead. Romans 10:9,10. Jesus raised Himself from the dead, John 2:19,20. The Holy Spirit raised Jesus from the dead, Romans 8:11.The inner-workings of the Trinity of God may also be seen in the fact that the Father sanctifies, First Thessalonians 5:23. The Son sanctifies, Ephesians 5:26. Hebrews 2:11; 9:12,14;13:12.The Holy Spirit sanctifies ,Romans 15:16. Second Thessalonians 2:13. Getting back to the Bible book of Genesis. In Genesis 1:26 in reads “The God said let US make man in Our image , according to our likeness…” The words are the plural “Us” and “Our.” As in “We the Trinity” For the very next verse, 27, it further reads “So God created man in His own image…” In verse 26 it’s the plural “Us” and “Our” to the singular “His” That is Three Persons in One God. In addition, in the New Testament in Matthew 28:19 It further reads the Jesus said “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the the Son and the Holy Spirit.” [N.K.J.V] That is “name” not “names.” In conclusion the many apologists and propagandists for Islam for Islam who make the claim that Christians and Muslims believe in and worship the same God are make an untrue and outright false claim. For the God of Christianity, Christians and the Bible is not the god of Islam Muslims and the Koran.
Champ ✞ says
For the God of Christianity, Christians and the Bible is not the god of Islam Muslims and the Koran.
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True, Walter, muslims do not serve the one true God–but allah, and allah is satan.
Watch this amazing testimony!
“Satanist to Christian: JESUS IS GOD: Not ALLAH!!!”
https://youtu.be/8hjVJTB_888
Champ says
*Notice* the similarities between a practicing satanist and devout muslims–chilling!
Phirzcol says
You are comparing the completed new testament to Koran without timeline or consistency. But way to go. But.
More than one. God never denied the existence of other gods. He only requires that you worship only him. Against all current ideas at the time Abraham left the land of ur.
Also your pointing out the difference of view between the gospels, eliminates your argument.
And then again you point out more than one “spirit”
Your name argument shows no knowledge of what a pronoun is.
Your final statement shows your evangelical nature. You have read many verses but did not read the Bible from page one to end. Abraham had two male children remember? One donned sheepskin and took his older brothers blessing leaving his brother in his shadow. The Muslim’s worship the god of Abraham.
The only argument you make is that of doctrine.
To which I remind you.
If any work in my name…
Con Ken says
Muslims God Allah means blue moon God in arabic
Charli Main says
Islam is the religion of love and peace.
Muslims love shooting infidels into pieces.
MTMLA says
LOL!!!
Evocatus says
A rifle without a serial number is “legal”? Wrong! The receiver, which is considered the gun by ATF and all LEOs, should have had a serial number, and if not is illegal to possess…Unless these guys are buying 80% receivers and finishing them, which is legal…
May be innocent though stupid “fun”, or might be a dry run as suggested…Testing response of other campers/hikers and local LEOs…
I no longer rely on law enforcement to “do the right thing” with people like this…
Any American who does not go about their daily lives well armed is foolish…These jihadis walk freely amonst us, looking for targets of opportunity, thanks in large part to FUBO and his merry band of Marxist elitists…Be prepared or suffer the consequences…
Waste93 says
It’s not illegal to posses a firearm without a serial number. It’s illegal to tamper, alter, or remove one.
Waste93 says
Even a weapon that is purchased as parts will have a serial number. Unless it was homemade, in which case they would need an FFL, all receivers are required to have serial numbers. I can think of a few exceptions but don’t think any apply in this case. Typical reporters, don’t seem to know much about firearms or firearm laws.
pdxnag says
Police officers terrified, of losing their jobs?
Green Infidel says
Southern California – now beginning to resemble South Waziristan?
Angemon says
Jack Holan says
Singing O’le Sweet Allah ROBERT, this is why over the centuries it’s been imperative for them to destroy Jewish Temples, Christian Churches, and others. To convert or kill all of us Non-Believers.(I’ll bet, even though the Syrian 5 year olds chose death-Pope Francis would CONVERT) Destroy the Archaeological record on the Temple Mount a few years ago (UNESCO, Ban ALL QUIET). Now with digitization they can slowly flood the markets with altered revisionist history over 2-4 generations and completely change it. Also, Common Core is an opportunity for them. I don’t believe in Conspiracy theories by nature, and this one came from me however I’ve seen what they do with their own education books and the World sleeps.
Con Ken says
Amen. The rich Saudis are using their gold from sold oil, to buy anything of power.
Mark G. says
Growing up in the Los Angeles area we used to camp in the high desert guite a bit. back then there were Basque Sheep herders who would take shots at us while we hiked. It was usually just a few just to know to stay away. Who knows what is happen now with so much growth and immigration !
Champ says
All 17 men were eventually released because Sheriff’s investigators say they had no outstanding warrants or criminal histories.
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Seriously? Released only to commit murder and mayhem with more shouts of “allah akbar!” …code for, “I’m doin’ the devils work!.”
Pliny The Elder says
Well how could they ? They just arrived, most likely…
Donovan Nuera says
Well, according to schmart people like Sen. McCain and other apologists, ‘allahu akbar’ means “God Bless”!
I hope these “Happy Campers” get Lyme Disease….
Jack Holan says
This is SOOOOO Bizarre! People just made this up? I highly doubt it. Firing a weapon in the dark at 3 a.m. doesn’t make sense but is beyond dangerous. If they, were going hunting, for what and did they have hunting licenses if no then they’re lying. Why are they caring so many hand guns a self defense weapon in the Hills. Wouldn’t 2 or 3 be enough. Even though ‘ditched’ weapons weren’t found based upon witness testimony is sounds like it. One paper claims that some witnesses heard Allahu Akbar but no gun shots really, let’s get real. If they heard anything it was the gun shots.
William says
The guns may be registered, but do the owners require something more than registration of the guns to be lawfully in possession of them at such location?
Fluff says
https://soundcloud.com/victor-valley-news/deep-creek-audio
somehistory says
There is more to this than meets the eye. Remember it for later happenings.
(Revelation)
Donovan Nuera says
Too bad one of their rounds didn’t strike a boulder to cause a spark and start a small brush fire. With the recent wind gusts, they might have been overcome by a rapidly-advancing wall of flames and have their luxurious back hairs flame up like like pine needles…
Carolyne says
That’s too funny
Con Ken says
Lol, they sure r fat without their shirts on
Donovan Nuera says
The man in the middle right of the group looks like an Eritrean? Could these High Plains Jihadis be members of UC Irvine’s MSA? Some sport those ubiquitous shaved-sides/greasy-mop-top hair cuts one sees in Gaza and Syria and parts of Egypt. They don’t look like Sikhs.
Maybe they did not hear the news that the FBI has been able to unlock Farookie’s iPhone as their AT&T plans did not have coverage in the valley and did not know to “stay low” for now?
I hope a cop in that area leaks things if the FBI is not contacted.
Maybe they were just constructing “clocks” for a school project??
rod says
What about the 2nd group that split up in the begining? Obviously they were carrying weapons and maybe they were not registered. Maybe they were illegal even. Did the police just let them flee? Was there a pursuit? One would assume the worst of the bunch would be the ones to run and hide instead head back to the parking lot.
Mark Swan says
Yep
Tetvet68 says
You can bet your butt if they shot at hikers and campers in AZ or TX there would be an investigation of many Muslims killed in a firefight with good old boys and girls. You can bet your other butt cheek that if they were released with no questioned asked the DOJ was involved
Carlos Danger says
see something, say something…….unless it might involve Islam.
THX1138 says
Arrested and Released…They will be Back more determine than before just watch.
Delores Barry says
Everyone of these muslims should be followed and just for a few months. They will attack and are just waiting………
Delores Barry says
Correction to comment above,
These muslims should be followed and NOT just for a few months!
David says
Muslim men, with numerous weapons at what was obviously a terrorist training camp? Released?????
Is this insanity or what?
California is strict about gun buying. I’d be looking into that connection first.
Here in Oregon my gun purchase was heldup for almost a month while the state police reviewed a 40 year traffic stop! Trying to see if I was quaqualified to own a gun!!!!
I was eventually approved. I can now compete in small bore target competitions.
Stephen says
In reparation for the police’s clear violation of these boys civil rights President Obama has issued an executive order by which each one will be given a tank, a military humvee, a stinger missile and unlimited access to the military depot of their choice.